June 5, 2025 • 54 mins
In the third hour, Dick Fain talks to Kevin Calabro about the NBA Finals starting tonight and the chance that the Pacers have of taking down the Thunder, then the guys react to NBA expansion news and discuss tomorrow’s bracket before Petros Papadakis joins.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pacers in okayse to face the plunder Oklahoma City ten
point favorite in game number one, and to talk about
it at all things NBA. Our friend Kevin Collaboro joins us, Casey,
how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jick fan. I'm doing great man, beautiful day here in
the lovely Pacific.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Norm absolutely is it good to hear your voice. And
you know, Casey, the last time we heard your voice,
you turned into no stradamus. This was what was the
date on this, Jackson? May eight, May the eighth. I
mean we're talking about a freaking month ago when you
said this.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I can see an Indiana Oklahoma City final.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Who got the NBA would hate that, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Think Indiana beat. I'm saying it's Indiana and Oklahoma City
playing for the hearts and minds of Middle America.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Buckle up, baby, buckle up baby.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I hope you put it. I hope you put a
couple of shekels on it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man. Well, apparently a lot of dick. Apparently a lot
of people are. I'm not a betting guy, but I
see Vegas five to one odds. You know the dogs,
Indiana dogs to Oklahoma City. That hasn't happened since four
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when our good friend Chouncy Phillips and the Detroit Pistons
upset the Los Angeles Lakers. So a lot of money
riding on Indiana as an underdog even though they're what
a nine and a half point dog tonight on the
road at Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, you mentioned in that cut you kind of see right.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm not a Vegas No, you're not a Vegas guy.
I know you guys are the one dogs.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I take the value.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The value still, I think is on Indiana at five
to one. That's where if I had to place my
money on one side of the other, I'd probably go
five to one Indiana. But you kind of slid in
there when you said Indiana Oakley. Okay, see you kind
of slid I don't think they're gonna win though. So
now here we are a month later, are you closer
to believing they're gonna win or further from believing they're
gonna win?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now? I think Indiana will make it a compelling series,
But I can see. My heart tells me at the
five game, my head says, my head tells me it's
a five game. My heart says, give me a six game,
because we need to see more basketball. This has been
such a great postseason. I think you'll agree.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes, I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Get enough of this, And I yeah, I know it's
a thunder, but I'm kind of over that. And with
the news that you guys just laid on me today,
I'm I'm even getting more over that. So go Indiana.
I'm a Pacer guy. You know that I grew up
in Indianapolis, Indiana. Bob Nettelek, he was my guy, sixty
seven sixty eight. Roger Brown, the Rajah. Look him up
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sports fans if you don't know who these two are,
the characters from the old Bobby Leonard days of the
Indiana Pacers in the transition from the ABA to the NBA.
But it's been great because you know, both these teams,
Dick have done it organically. It hasn't been going out
swinging for the fences, taking around a player and trying
to team them with two other superstars.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So you mentioned great Perry, you tease there the news
from Adam Silver that we read in the last segment
for people just tuning in. Adam Silver did say that
there's going to be an owner's meeting in July. Expansion
will be on the agenda, and what I thought was interesting,
he says, we have committees already.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Talking about expansion.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I didn't realize I thought the committees would be established
in July. So it sounds like it's even a little
bit further ahead than I thought. I mean, were you
were you encouraged by what you heard from the commissioner?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, how could you not be right? How could you
not be It's coming from the commissioner before Game one,
you know, talked about a variety of issues, I mean
a variety of issues, but this came up. And this
is great news, I think for people that have wanted
over the years to see NBA basketball come back to Seattle.
(04:00):
Twenty one years of history, a great legacy, a championship,
the great Hall of famers. It should have always been
part of the NBA. But now a real opportunity. The
first time since eight we've seen a real opportunity in
my opinion, And of course we've been led down the
path of course, the whole Sacramento situation and so forth.
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But this, really, this feels like it's coming directly from
the commissioner. It has the stamp of approval from the
Board of Governors to go to a search and do
due diligence and have that done by the time Dick,
they get to the Summer League, which is coming up
in July, when the Board of Governors will reconvene. And well,
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apparently Silver went so far as to say today, right,
that's the other big part of this news that's coming out,
and you guys are the first to tell me about it,
is that Silver is saying that they will then apparently
get into some real serious conversation in July about the process,
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and we'll get a timetable at that point. So I
think everybody'll wait expectantly to hear what they have to
say in July.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Can't wait for those meetings, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
July is always fun for the NBA because it's right
when the beginning of free agency starts.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And then he got the orders of meeting crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Do you believe maybe do you think with the expansion
back to Seattle, we'll say impending, potentially impending? Do you
believe that the Thunder then would sever all ties with
Sonic history and just give Seattle back their history and
this thunder say, hey, our history began in two thousand
and eight with year number one.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Do you think that will happen.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Dick, the way you've laid it out, that seems reasonable
to me. And I don't know if it'll happen, but
I think that's very reasonable, and I think there are
reasonable parties everywhere that's involved in this. Now. I think
the animus, I think the emotion has died down to
a point where we're all very practical people now, I think,
and I think the League would would find a pathway,
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uh that would allow obviously Oklahoma City realize their own
history and the Sonics to then reconnect with their their
old history. You know, So that'd be that'd be great.
I just I just think it'd be so so welcome
obviously in this city, in this region, but also in
the NBA. Everybody talks about when are they coming back
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to Seattle, Dick. You've heard, you heard and all the
assignments that you do in the w NBA. I'm sure
when are the Sonics coming back to Seattle? Right? You know?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So Kevin Collaboro, the great Kevin Collaboro, And speaking of
my w NBA days that you helped me there, Kevin,
I remember giving you cassette tapes at Sonics games, saying
Casey can you can you listen to this and tell
me how.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Terrible it is?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And you were great and helping me out, no question
about it. I'm sure you helped a lot of people
get their get their career started. But do you mention
the uh, you know, the lack of bitterness that you
feel anymore. And I I think a lot of people
don't nearly have. I don't nearly have the bitterness that
I had seventeen years ago, that's for sure. I mean
I can't stand watching Clayton Bennett celebrate in the in
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the front row at that arena, certainly. But you know,
I don't hold bitterness for the Oklahoma City fans, and
I certainly like the players on the Oklahoma City team.
It's just hard for me to watch them play in
that jersey.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, look at the sixty eight win team we're talking
about that, you know, beat Memphis. They were down two
to one to a very good Denver team and ended
up winning by thirty two in game seven, you know,
and SDA just came to life. He averaged like thirty
five in that series. They crushed Minnesota, I mean a
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thirty beat them by what thirty thirty two? Whatever it
was in game, in the in the wrap up of
the game, number one rated defense in the regular season
and better in the playoffs. You know, Edwards called him
puppets on a string, fifteen puppets on a string. And
when he says fifteen, he means that because they get
they are so deep. And that's that to me is
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a I mean, you tell me it's about the point
guard Dick and and if Halliburton is constantly seeing lou Dort,
uh Caruso, Jalen Williams, Sga Case and Wallace, they've got
six guys that are six five six six that can
go out there, that are quick and can check him.
(08:32):
And I think that's a really it's going to be
a real issue for Indiana.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you talked to your old friend Rick Carlile lately,
who's leading his team into battle tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I didn't mention lou Dort either. Who will open? Who
will open on it Tyres celebrating. I did reach out
to Rick Carlisle and wished him the best and congratulations
and he said thanks brother, and then he moved on.
Uh So, no, no real conversation, But I did you know,
I want to let coach you know that I appreciating
what he's doing. I always seem when he comes into
Portland and will be rolling Indiana. Always talked to him.
(09:03):
He's such a terrific guy. Renaissance man, got his pilot's license.
He's now I think looking to fly jets or something
like that. He plays jazz piano and Oscar Peterson is
his idol. Very deep guy, interesting, interesting guy. You know.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The hope that I'm holding on to for the Pacers
is that, you know, we aren't so far away from
the Thunder being down nine in the fourth quarter of
Game number five against Denver and they were about to
go down three to two in that series, and we
weren't far you know from a game seven. You know,
do you think that was just a you know, a
tough matchup for OKC because of the Jokic factor, or
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or do you think that maybe Rick can take something
from that series and use it to his vantage in
this series and we may be able to see, you know,
a situation in game number five in a two to
two series where the Pacers are up by nine.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I think it was the Jokic situation because the aforementioned
list of defenders I talked about at six y five
or ill equipped out on the perimeter, which is where
he was orchestrating a lot of his offense, playmaking, shooting
threes and so forth. And they did not have the
bulk the size when he went into the mid block,
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and then he and Murray work screen and roll. That
was a real issue for him. Indiana doesn't present that issue.
I mean, Miles Turner can shoot the three. He's not
a terrific post up guy, good shot blocker there. I
think their strength obviously is in Halliburton, and it's in
Pascal Siakam, and then just their depth and the speed
of play, their tempos. They're as quick in points per
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a hundred possession in the NBA as there is. But
Oklahoma City, as we just mentioned, is an elead defensive team.
But they're a team that likes to gallop up and
down two. They can do that. That's what makes these
guys so good. It's not like they're just crushing you
at half court. They can defend you ninety four feet
and they will defend you with them. Even though Indiana
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pulls the ball out of the net, the thunder will
be back. There won't be any cap I mean, this
is not the New York Knicks we're talking about here.
So this is just a whole. It's a whole. Even
with Rick Carlisle, as brilliant as he is in you know,
trying to establish yourself against this this defensive Oklahoma City team,
it's just been I mean, I was looking at their
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their evolution dictated twenty two to twenty three. They had
forty wins that year. They were fourteenth defensively. They go
to fifty seven wins last year. Okay, that's the seventeen
win improvement. They lose to Dallas in the second round,
but they don't have Caruso, they don't have Hartenstein. They
had those two guys sixty eight wins and they're sixteen
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and four right now in the postseason. Yeah. I mean,
to me, that's the team that's an all timer. Yeah,
so we we got we got to swallow that. And
I think there they're gonna be a club that's going
to be there the next three four years. Even with
this salary cap and the tears in the April and
all that stuff. Sam Presty has proven to be just
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one of the elite administrators in all the professional sports
in the world, not just North America. But the world
and a championship I think would obviously confirm that to everybody.
What is evident. You know, he was the Executive of
the Year obviously this year.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, and he's loaded with first round draft picks for
the next decade too, So they're they're not going anywhere,
that's for sure. Final a couple of minutes with the
with Kevin collabro here. You know, Jackson and I were
talking about the Small Market Finals earlier, and I mentioned
that I thought, hey, you know, if the networks in
the NBA wanted to do themselves a service, then maybe
they would put Indiana on national TV more than nine
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times this year. It wasn't like Indiana wasn't in the
East Finals last year.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
They were a good team with an up and coming star.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean case they put the Celtics on twenty six times,
the Lakers on twenty seven, the Warriors on twenty four,
and the Pacers on nine, so it's like they could.
But Jackson just said, hey, they just want to put
those stars on and they'll whatever they get in the
NBA Finals, they'll like, we'll take because we want to
make sure our eyeballs are on. Steph Curry and Lebron
James and Jason Tatum and the joker all season long?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
How do you do you think it affects the ratings much?
And do you think they go about it the right
way by not putting teams like the Pacers on the
rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh boy, that's that's the beauty. I read an article
today about how put off the players were because they
weren't playing on Christmas both Oklahoma City and Indiana last
year or this year. And you know, so, I think
the effect on players is the players notice that. Yeah,
so let's start there. The players know that, and they've
got a chip and that serves them well. As evidence.
(13:40):
We've seen that with these two teams arriving where they are. Now,
that's part of it is their swagger. Hey, you know
we're flyover country. Big networks don't want us because we're
not Boston, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Ibody. We know
that about that here in the Pacific Northwest, Dick. So
you know, nothing has changed, and I don't think I
think they're you know, they will be seen more next year.
I think because of who they are and because they
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have young, demonstrable stars. I mean Oklahoma City, I think
is the second youngest team in the NBA behind the Blazers,
and people are getting to know them now. You know,
I mentioned that jumped from forty to fifty seven to
sixty eight. Well, that deserves them. That gives you cache
in the marketplace, and it puts you on national TV.
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So we are going to see more of Oklahoma City.
And from a media standpoint, you can get a very
good meal in Oklahoma City. I mean, they've got great
steak restaurants there. The problem is, Dick, as you probably know,
you got to it's connecting territory. You got to connect
to a flight. You see where Indiana had to circle
and avoid tornadoes Tulsa and set it out and then
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and the circle back ahead to Oklahoma City. But so
it goes life on the planes.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You know, Hey, you mentioned New York earlier. What do
you think that? Why do you think TIBs was fired
Game one?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And the fact that Indiana beat him last Indiana beat
him last year, and I think he wore his guys out,
He didn't really develop his bench and then try to
go to his bench at certain times. And I you know,
the thing is, I just think time had run. Its course,
it's about star players in this league, and Leon Rose
is of course, you know Synonymous would bring in brunts,
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it in Brunton's dad, Karl, Anthony Townsend, so forth, So
you know this was a Leon move. I don't know
who they're going to hire. I don't think it's going
to be Jay Wright. I don't think we're going to
have a Villanova reunion.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
What about Mike Malone.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I don't now Mike Malone I think is you know,
obviously I like Taylor Jenkins, the guy that was at Memphis.
I think he's terrific. Yeah. I don't think Jeff van
Gundy because he was so close with Mike Tibodeaux and
I don't really know if he gets along with Dolan
or not. I tell you what, I would reach out
to Van Gundy if I were New York, but you know,
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who knows, no idea what the relationship is there. And yeah,
from there, I really don't have any names for you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, well it'll be interesting to see, well, Casey, it
is always a pleasure. I every single time I watched
the Pacer game the last month and they kept winning
and winning and winning, I thought about your call on
May the eighth that the Pacers were gonna play the
Thunder in the NBA Finals, and you were indeed right.
But I hope you're not right about who's gonna win
the finals, but I think you will.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Be right about who's gonna win the finals. All right,
have a great tell you know.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Go ahead, just enjoy it. Enjoy this beautiful sunny Pacific Northwest.
And that news today from Adam Silver, that his big news.
That's great news for all his basketball fans here in
the Northwest. Love it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Thanks you, Casey. We'll talk to you soon, all right, man,
take care, all right. You bet that's Kevin Collaboro the Goat,
no question about it. Kevin Collaboro is the greatest.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
We couldn't have dreamed for better timing to have the
Adam Silver.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, thank you, Adam Silver. So we'll get you caught
up in the next segment and you can make of
whatever you want to make of what Adam Silver had
to say. We'll we'll read the comments again. Coming up next,
I'll give you my take on the series that starts
in about ten minutes. Coming up Non ninety three point
three KJFMOD.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
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Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, welcome back Softian Dick without the soft one, still's
got the frog in his throat. We'll see if we'll
hear from him tomorrow. Phil, you know, take take the weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Did he call you this morning like he called me,
just texted?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
He calls me at about seven to fifty eight am.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh, because he knows I'm not Yeah, I'm not answering
my phonem he.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Knows that way, he didn't, So he calls me at
seven fifty eight am and he just says, how's my voice?
First words out of how's my voice? The first horrible yeah,
and then it went downhill from there.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh my goodness. Well he's missing a pretty big day.
Adam Silver indicating today that there could be authorization to
start a formal expansion process from the league's owner League's
owners coming in July during the next Board of Governor's meeting.
He says it's not automatic, but quote, it depends on
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your perspective on the future of the league. As I've
said before, an expansion in a way is selling equity
in the league, and if you believe in the league
and you don't necessarily want to add partners. On the
other hand, we recognize there are undeserved markets, underserved markets
in the United States and elsewhere, and I think markets
that deserve to have NBA teams, probably even if we
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were to expand more than we can serve. We've got
an owner's meeting in July in Las Vegas. It will
be on the agenda to take the temperature of the room.
We have committees that are already talking about it. That's
a big part right there, that they already have committees
talking about it. But my sense is at the meeting,
they're going to give direction to me and my colleagues
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at the league office that we should continue to explore.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So not only do they have committees.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He kind of indicated he already knew what they were
going to tell him in July, So he's saying, here's
what we're going to do in July.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
But I already think.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I know what's going to happen in July. So when
he was asked later about exploration and what that means.
He said he believes that the owner's authorization would create
the start of a formal process. And so you know,
here's another quote. If a decision is made that there
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should be further exploration by the league's office and presumably
a committee of team owners, it would be more of
a formal process. There's been no lack of interest. Certainly
have we got a lot of unsolicited calls and I
essentially have said to people from different cities, we're not
engaging in that process right now, and I want to
be fair to everyone, So I want don't want to
have meetings with somewhere or other. If you're out there
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thinking that Seattle hasn't talked to that's that's that.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I mean, that's just something that he has to say.
But exactly that is just okay, whatever. But I think
the thing is, you know, we have we haven't started.
It makes it pretty clear they're dicking those comments. We
haven't started a formal process yet. So, if I'm just
reading this correctly, Adam Silver doesn't think that organizing a
committee to talk about NBA expansion dictates or is counted
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as a formal process.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Buddy, If that ain't a formal process, I don't even
know what is a formal process. If you have a
committee that you have have set and that you have
talked about and figured out this is a thing that
we are doing. We are building a team, We are
building a group of people to talk about this. That
is a formal part of the process, mister Silver. And
this is what we would talk to what we talked
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about at the All Star Game when the last time
we heard from from Adam Silver was.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That all the roadblocks are gone now right.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
We had these roadblocks that needed to be taken care of,
and that and that Boston roadblock, I think it potentially
cost us a year. I think, I mean, I think
there was there was a there was a real possibility
that I think the NBA could have been here in
twenty six, twenty seventh, good point. And I think Boston
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probably cost us a year because it definitely delayed them
six plus. I meant, no, I mean, just is what
it is, right, I mean, those things, those things come up,
but there are no more roadblocks, right, and so that
is a really really cool thing and hopefully it'll be
Hopefully it'll make it easier for fans in Seattle to
watch this series because if you're just a if, if
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you can, if you can put aside the Oklahoma City
side of things, root for Indiana of course, and just
watch basketball because it's gonna be good basketball. I think
that's really really cool. I think I mean Jackson when
it comes, let's let's let's put it. Let's put it
in in your parlance with soccer, you've had so many
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of these. Let's say, you've had so many of these
MLS Cup final games.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Where's the perfect one to one? Actually?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Okay, it's Portland Timbers facing off against New York City
in the twenty twenty one MLS Cup. Sounders had lost
in twenty twenty and we were all heartbroken about that.
And then in twenty twenty one, Portland is right there
back in the championship game, hosting the championship game, and
the question would be did I watch it or not?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No? I did not? Okay, okay, so why do you
watching this one? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
What?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What does Indiana have to do to get you to
watch this one?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
So?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
What in that specific game when Portland was hosting their
championship I didn't watch that game until penalty kicks, because
in penalty kicks it was the best shot. I thought
all game that oh my gosh, Orland might actually lose this,
and that it's I mean, it's always the hope that
kills you. But that was the biggest moment of hope
that I had that Portland was going to lose. So
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if this series reaches a point where Indiana has three wins,
I will then watch from there because that will then
give me the most hope of oh my gosh, Oklahoma
City might actually lose. But until Indiana have three wins,
I just I'm gonna emotionally protect myself. I don't want
any sort of hope to then kill me, so you know,
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I'll ot ted last. So so I'm just gonna stay
away from it until that point because I just can't
handle it. And as much as this news hypes me up,
expansions happening, et cetera, et cetera, I just like I
compartmentalize it and the anger and the frustration and the
sadness of watching. Okay, see, when it's time, I gotcha
that it will just be too proud.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I guarantee you I will not be watching when Oklahoma
City wins the championship. I guarantee you, Hey, let's flip
it around. At what point do you turn it off?
I turn it off when I feel like the series
is over, and I probably feel like the series is over.
I want to see how game one and two hold up.
What does that mean though? When when they SERI like,
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what does that mean when you feel like the series
is over? Is it the Thunder leading by ten points
in the fourth quarter of a deciding games?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
If the Thunder are up to nothing and they lead
at Indiana by ten and the third I'm probably that's
your point. I'm probably done. I'm probably done. But I
want to see how these first two games go. I mean,
are these first two games one twenty five to one ten?
Or are they one oh eight one oh seven in overtime?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Like? Like are they? Are they great games?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And you know when ten seems like a big number
in any NBA Finals game and it's a it's a
ten point spread today, But in the last twenty years,
listen to this, Jackson underdogs in Game one of the
Finals by any spread, just underdogs are two and eighteen
straight up two and eighteen. So there's only been two
road wins in Game one in the last twenty years,
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Indiana would have to be bucking a massive, massive trend.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I didn't need that in my life. I understand that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
But let me give you some good news. Okay, let
me give you some good news. If you just go
player by player, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Not a slam dunk. It really isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes, the best player in the series is on Oklahoma City,
but it's not by a landslide. Oklahoma's got number one,
Indiana's got number two, and I think number three in
Tyrese Haliburton and Pascal Siakam. I'll give OKC numbers four
and five with Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren. Okay, but
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then beyond that, I mean you're looking at at Miles
Turner for Indiana, you're looking about at nemhard Nie Smith.
I think they're just as good as Cason Wallace and
Caruso and Dort and Hartenstein.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I just think when you look at just talent for talent.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's Oklahoma City I would give
an advantage to, but not a massive advantage. It's just
Oklahoma has played more consistently well over the course of
the year than Indiana has.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
But Indiana has played well since January really.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Well, since Ga, we need this to be like a
two thousand and four Detroit Pistons over Lakers situation.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, and arguably.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That that was just a great team beating a couple
of unbelievable players, and Indiana needs to play like a
great team.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Five point thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
We're gonna have some fun in the next segment because
tomorrow is Bracket Friday, and Jackson and I need to
determine what kind of bracket we're going to do tomorrow,
and I think we've got a pretty good one for you.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We'll discuss it next.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
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Speaker 1 (27:01):
All Right, tomorrow's Friday, which means in the summertime, it's
bracket Friday.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Here on the afternoon show.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You know, I just realized something, Dick, Yes, So right now,
Hughes scheduled to join us at four o'clock tomorrow. We
have the Stanley Cup Final at five o'clock. I'm not
sure if we're going to be able to fully literally
just thought of this as we were hitting the rejoint here.
I'm not sure if we'll have time to fit it in,
but if we did three five, we might have to
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or we just move Hugh. But we're producing on the
fly here, ladies and gentlemen, this is a show meeting
we're having live on air.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We might have to move, Hugh. We'll see what Softie
looks like, because if Softie's a lot of sand or
butts about it, we might have to move, Hughes, so
we can fit the bracket in. We'll have to move.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
We'll figure this out. Well, here's the let's let's just
get the brackets started. Yeah, regardless, So let's discussed because
we need we need to discuss and and the topic
I've come up with is most unforgettable non Seattle sports moments, unforgettable,
most unforgettable I forgot. I think that's I think that's
probably the way to go unforgettable, right because you know,
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we had a great moment last night.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
We'll see if Edmonton goes on to win the series.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But if they do, I mean, that was an overtime
goal in Game number one, and Edmonton was absolutely phenomenal.
I don't star players by star player Connor McDavid, Leon
Dreisidel like that was.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That was big.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I don't think it would make this bracket, but that
was a big, big moment. Hopefully we'll get some big
moments from the Indiana Pacers in this. How about a
game seven Tyrese Haliburton three to win it to shut
up okay in their house. I mean, that would definitely
make the bracket. There's no question about that. Whether that's
non Seattle or whether that's Seattle or non Seattle.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And that's kind of vague right there.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But we got to define a timeline on this because
I've got a few that were pre two thousand and
then a bunch that are post two thousand and If
I were to extend it to pre two thousand, I
would have Mira klon Ice, I would have Kirk Gibson.
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I would have Latner against Kentucky. I would have Jordan
over Russell. I would have Jack nineteen eighty six Master.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
There's only a there's a there's a big problem with uh,
with with the specific wording of this bracket and all
these things that you're saying. Uh I was born in
nineteen ninety two, Dick fans right, and to be unforgettable. Uh,
none of those count as well.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think if we're moving it back that far, then
we have to have greatest, right, then we have to
have greatest moment. I love the word unforget, like I'm forgettable.
I think we just do this quarter centurine, then we
probably have to do since two thousand. All right, well,
let's let's hear you want to hear my Your list
is longer than mine, so you may give my list
and then you can tell me whether it's on your
list or max. Let's go, and I'm sure I've forgotten some,
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but the Texters can help out of four nine, four
or five one, and you can help as well, in
no particular order.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Cubs break the Curse.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Didn't have that, but that is a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Cubs break the Curse is a moment that you yeah,
just the ground ball to yea Chris Bryant. Yeah, yes,
I mean it's funny.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's like, the the biggest Cubs moment is actually Steve Bartman.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
That was in a loss.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But the Cubs breaking akers seven against Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Oh yeah, series, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So that was good Tiger winning the Masters after the comeback,
which one the comeback the last yeah, comebacks, that one
the comeback Masters red Sox rally from three to h yep,
I mean that is that one. That's the greatest sports
series that I think I've ever seen. I think the
unforgettable moment of that was our tease walking it off
and you have Joe Buck saying we'll see you later tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yep, see you later tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That was so good, so good. Phelps eight gold medals.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, I thought about that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I didn't have it on the list just because I
don't know, like it was consecutive and sort of like
you know, I don't remember the eighth race.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It was sort of just you remember the memorable one first. Yeah,
the memorable one was the relay.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Memorable one was the relay with the touch underneath the
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Send any record. It was just kind of sorry, you
didn't set there, like the metals record. It was just
the best race of the eight.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It didn't set the metals record. That's coreat correct. So
I didn't have that. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Texas USC which I think is the best college football
game and I think the most entertaining college football game.
Was might have been Boise State, Oklahoma, but on my list, Okay, okay,
but since this is a national championship, maybe maybe that's
a first round matchup. Who knows Alcaholma versus Texas USC
that that could be a first round matchup. Patriots come back,
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even though we hate the Patriots, Patriots come back against Atlanta.
I mean, dude, twenty.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
See for me, like, I picked one Patriot moment to
have on my on my list of things, and that
was David Tyree's helmet catch.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Because I think the helmet catch.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Which is a Giants moment, I mean sure, but obviously
it was to deny the Patriots of Perpe.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Deny that on the list should be on the list.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That was my patriotskay, because I didn't want to have
two Patriots on the list.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, we can't have two Patriots on the list, No way.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Chris Jenkins Villanova. I mean, it's the only buzzer beater list,
the only buzzer beating I lost. I lost five hundred
dollars on that shot.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
But it's smoke. That's no good.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Freddy Freeman last year, Freddy Freeman's that was the first
time the whole walk off to win the World Series.
Kirk Gibson Part two, Yes, Kirk Gibson, Pard doing d
and then Lebron's block of Andre Igudala. I mean that
is the most iconic basketball moment probably this century.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know what which numbers series was that for Lebron
versus this Warriors?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Was that the third time they played number series?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Was that?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Didn't they play like three times in four years or
something like that? But that was the one that the Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Won because Kyrie came back and hit the three after
the block. But that block, I mean, the game's over.
If Lebron James doesn't block that shot, the game's over.
There is no Kyrie the block.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Blocked, layup down.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You had to come from behind and pin it against
the pinted against the window.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
That's probably a good So those are mine? How about yours?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Are there any there that I've that I've overlooked?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, I think on an international scale, Messi finally winning
the World Cup. It's the greatest soccer player of all
time and it's the greatest soccer game of all time.
So we have the greatest player in the greatest game
of this of this single sport and the you know,
the biggest sport on Earth, and it's him finally doing it,
and you know it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
For me, anytime you.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Can add greatest player in the greatest game of a
given sport, that's that creates a moment, that creates a scene.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So I have that, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I also let's see going down the list of things
that you didn't mention. Mario Chalmers against Memphis, but I
think Villanova's is bigger because it was one.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I was softy and I were at the Chalmers game,
Yeah amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
We were at the.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Kobe Bryant's final game where he went off in that
final game.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, sixty five or something.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I also had his eighty one point game, but I
think his retirement game was a little bit bigger because
that transcended sports. Kobe to Shaq Ali Oup in the
NBA Finals. But again, if we're including one, I'm gonna
go with Kobe's retirement game because it was just so his.
That's that's my two cents on which Kobe would be
bigger mm hm uh. And then Ray Allen to beat
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the Spurs in the finals. But I think yours finals
moment of Lebron is probably bigger than Ray Allen. That's
just my Seattle sports fan speaking up Bill's chiefs AFC
Divisional round.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
That was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Luis Gonzalez walks it off, But I almost think that
Freddy Freeman's even though it didn't win this series, is bigger.
But Luis Gonzales walk off Game seven over the Yankees. Yes,
Barry Bonds breaking the record, COVID stopping the NBA game
mid midimual.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, Rudy Cobert, that's not bad guy. There's so many
of them. There's so many of them.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
The last one I didn't have, you didn't have was
Landon Donovan USA Soccer. But again, I think Leonel Messi would. Yeah,
we got most of the time.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I'm looking at Bleacher Report ranking and they had number one,
David Tyree, they had number two, they had number two
Lebron James. Okay, there you go, they had number three.
The Patriots come back, Auburn kicks six. We did have
Auburn kick six, but it's a rivalry. I think I
think you basically have the eight. We'll see them up
for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It sounds good. We are not adding their number six.
By the way, which was Malcolm Butler. Butler's interception. We're
not not adding that one, absolutely five pot fifty five
and we got top of the our headlines.
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Speaker 1 (36:42):
Doc, how you doing? Petrosia is a summer treating you? Well,
I saw you. You're a Dodger. You're at the Dodger
game or a post Dodger game today, right?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Today will be on after Yeah, they're on. Well they're yeah,
well actually it's over now, but they were on and
we were on. But yes, they played an early game
today against the.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Mets and they had a walk off yesterday. Is that right?
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Is a walk off?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
No, they got destroyed yesterday two days ago. They walked
it off. A day before that, the Mets beat them
in extras. You can't walk it off on the road,
and that was that. They have lost three of the
last four after starting to win the first. They started
to win on their home stand against the Yankees the
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first two and now they've lost three of the last
four with the Yankees and Mets here in town. So
that's a lot of mailboxhead New York types in Dodger
Stadium having a great time enjoying themselves.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Do people panic even though you're a great baseball team?
Do people panic similarly to how they panic in Seattle?
Because like, if the Mariners go through a three game
losing streak like they they will never win a game again,
according to Mariner fans.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
And because the people have seen it, right, they've seen
the team fall to pieces. Yeah, we like to call
it the Panic Brothers. On the Petres and Money Show,
Matt and I become the Panic Brothers and hit the button.
And I don't know if it's valid or not. And
when it comes to the Dodgers, even though they've had
(38:17):
some pretty humiliating early exits in the last six or
seven years in the nl DS and Atlanta and the NLCS, NLDS,
was the Nationals, the Padres and the d Backs, you know,
all teams that they dominated during the regular season, especially
the ones in division. So people have seen that kind
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of stuff happen, and we would like to hit the
panic button and say this is terrible, and I mean,
but even you know, they end up winning one hundred
games a year, ninety plus and when you put on
real baseball analysts, like your John Hayman types or Eric
Carros or Brett Boone, you know guys like that. You
(39:00):
put those guys on and you say, my god, the
Dodgers have lost three or four, what are we gonna do?
We're all gonna die, And they tell you, you know, relax, guy,
it's all you know. And I know that it's true
as well, Like I know that there's you can't you
can't freak out when there's that many games. In the
world of Major League Baseball, the grind and the long
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form of the season is really what shapes a champion.
I know all those things. But the people that are
standing there telling me to calm down, they don't have
to do a four hour freaking radio show. That's fair.
I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
I said something to our new boss the other day.
I was like, yeah, Angels swept the Dodgers. Here was awesome.
He's like, what do you mean. I was like, dude,
we need that, We need something to happen so we
can react to it other than hey, the team's really good.
That actually is like that Twilight Zone episode where the
guy is a gambler and he goes to the casino
(40:01):
and does nothing but win, right, and it works out
for him and he finds out that he's in hell,
Like you don't want to just win the whole time,
you know, you.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Got to have a little tidy. Absolutely Petros joining us here.
You know, it's say it's OTA's for the Seahawks. And
it's just another reason why the Seahawks didn't allow the
media in last week, because this week when the media
was let in, they have to do their due diligence
and report that Sam Darnold had two interceptions in a
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red zone drill and then.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
All hell breaks loose.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Mike McDonald is asked if there's a potential that Sam
Darnald might not be the starter. That reporter is being
called crazy by the head coach, and now it's a
national story. My god, is this This is where we've
gotten to in the NFL in June, where where two
interceptions in the first week of OTA is the biggest
story in football.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
That's what they want.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
I mean, the NFL wants that, like the NBA wants
their story regarding you know, whatever's happening and who's being
recruited in the off season. Kawhi Leonard flying around being courted.
I think about DeAndre Jordan with Mark Cuban driving around
Dallas and Doc Rivers driving around. You know, stories that
(41:20):
hijack the twenty four hour news media when you're not
actually playing. Is like, that's like Beluga caveat. That's right
to these leagues, and the NFL is the rich getting richer. Obviously,
the interest in OTAs is amazing to me. I know that,
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you know, there's people that follow the teams very closely
and they want it reported on. But at the same time,
these people don't understand football practice. And people really don't
understand football practice. And I'm not going to stand here
and act like I have it all figured out, because
I don't. Practice is literally scripted by the football coaches.
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The offense is against the defense. There's nobody else coming
in unless it's a joint practice with a different team,
and it's all scripted and it's all put out there.
I'm not saying that it's like a WWF battle. I'm
just saying it's really really hard, very difficult for anybody
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in the media to stand on the sideline of a
football practice while they're catching up about their daughter's recital
and you know, making small talk on the sideline and
really understand, now, if a god throws a picky throws
a pick. I'm not trying to split hairs here. But
they don't know what they're looking at. And whenever I
go to football practice, unless I really lock in and
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really try to talk to somebody, if somebody gives me
a script of the practice, I don't know what I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yes, And you've been in a lot more football practices
than most of these reporters have, right and on.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
The inside of them and all around them and in
people's camps and in people's meetings and all that, and
I don't know what's going on, because it's not meant
for you to know what's going on. It really isn't.
And a lot of the time they set guys up
that are losing confidence or lacking confidence. They set those
guys up for success.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
In some situations they set up the offense for success,
and some they set up the defense for success. When
you're going live in practice, usually the defense has the
advantage because they know that offense because they're on their team,
and they know it's right. I mean, you know it's
so Look if a guy goes out and throws five
picks a day in practice and he's totally inaccurate.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
There's a problem.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Well, and the buzz starts to be created that, hey,
this guy's not performing. It doesn't happen the first day
of OTAs or whatever the hell is going on. So
it's it's a non story. It is more of an
indicator to me what the NFL is off season wise
because Sam Donald throws a pick and OTAs became a
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national story and so few people really like how many
people were out there when he threw the pick? What
was he wearing?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You know?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Was there a pass rush?
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Was he eluding something like?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
What was going?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
No one even knows, you know, what was the drill?
Red zone drill? Was it seven on seven? Was it
a half field type of deal? What was it a
was it a run drill? And no pads? Like what
are we talking about? And all of those things kind
of just make it more and more comical. Now, if
Sam will could Sam Donald struggle, Sure he could, he
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struggled before on an NFL team. I happened to really
like Sam Donald, and I hope he has a great
turnaround or his great turnaround continues. I should say, but, uh, yeah,
I don't think it's much of a story. But I
think overreacting to anything that happens in a football practice
other than a guy getting injured or a guy getting
his jaw broken in a fight is pretty pretty silly.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Well, we certainly have a different vibe at head coach
now than we did, and we just got another example
of that yesterday when, evidently this was also reported by
the crack media here, Mike McDonald got mad at his
team because they were competing too hard. Could you imagine
your guy Pete saying that he's angry at his team
(45:22):
because they're competing too hard in an Ota?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, no, no, I could not imagine.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
I could imagine Pete getting angry if they competed too
hard against him when he's trying to act like he's
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
But I.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Know, and look, people get excited when you play football
and you're not in pats for months and months, and
you have all this bravado and testosterone, and you've been
training and training and training to go out there and
move around like a football player, and they give you
the opportunity, that first opportunity in high school, we call it,
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you know, spring football. In college, we call it spring football.
In the NFL is shorter and a lot less violent,
and it's called OTAs. And from what I understand, they're
only in helmets, right, that's all you. Yeah, So when
you're only in a helmet, that's you know, you feel lighter,
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and you feel like you feel like you could jump
over a car, and you get out on the field
and you really do feel electric and you're excited to
be out there. You're excited to be with your teammates,
and it's the Hope, Springs, Eternal New Year, all that stuff.
So I understand exactly what he's saying. Pete would never
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use that terminology. Pete would say, look, we got to
tone it down when we're not in full pads and
things of that nature. But I'm pretty sure that's what
coach means. When we're not in full pads, we can't
go at each other like we are, no matter how
excited we are to be back on the football field.
And it really goes to a very interesting chemistry experiment
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in the world of football, because when the actual season comes,
or when you're in camp and you're really starting to compete,
compete for positions, compete for playing time and all that
different stuff. You know, you hear coaches say right on
all the time. If there's a fight in practice or something,
they say, hey, we want these guys right on the edge,
you know, right on the edge. And that's the truth.
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They want you right on the edge of exploding into
anger and violence, and that is preparing most of your
football team for battle. So I understand exactly what he's saying,
but it is an interesting juxtaposition considering the win forever mentality.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yes, that's right, which exists in Vegas. Now do yourself.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm listening to Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Did you see did you see the.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Video today from Pete chomping you chopping on the gum
white wide receiver gloves monarchs on the feet Khaki's on
and then he runs up and literally like does the
people's elbow on an unwitting offensive lineman who's stretching on
the ground.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Isn't it fun?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Isn't it so much fun?
Speaker 6 (48:05):
Got he so much?
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I was just cracking you.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Go.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
You will find that on the internet and you will
get a chuckle out of it. Petro's joining us, so
our long national nightmare is over. Aaron Rodgers is a
Pittsburgh Steeler Petrose, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Well, I mean, I guess you figured that they had
a wink and a smile and a long standing understanding
throughout the whole summer. And it's the same thing we
talked about, I think last week, which is the older guys,
they really want to do less and less and less.
That's right when it comes to the season, and fair enough,
it's excruciating. It's td a toweringly tedious to get ready
(48:48):
for a football season, and I can't imagine doing it
after ten twelve years at the NFL level, and guys
that play tight end in different stuff like that, they
have the luxury of taking more time off. If a
quarterback tries to get out for a little while, like
Brady did when he was going through his divorce, no
matter how old he is, it's a problem. If you're
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the quarterback, you got to be there. So I guess
this is about as far as Rogers could have gone
without disturbing the continuity anymore. He'll get in there for
proper camp and learn their offense, and we'll see what
the Steelers can do with him at quarterback. It should
be very interesting, it could be, and maybe I predict
(49:30):
if his body holds up like the Brett Favre seasons
in Minnesota, which were really, really, really productive and dizzying
as far as the coverage went from the NFL, and
they just washed him up every day until his body
finally gave out in the playoffs, if I remember correctly,
so I think they'll be good. I think that maybe
(49:53):
the drama around it that he had not signed was
something that everybody around the situation new was just going
to be temporary and that he was going to end
up there, So good for him. We'll see what happens.
I can't wait to see his weekly spot.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I'll tell you, yes, yep, Pat McAfee again for another
for another year, I'm sure. But hey, Petros, before you
let you go, are you excited for our small market
matchup in the NBA Finals?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I mean, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
I mean, around here, we just wait for Lebron to
do something to put himself in the media cycle and
he will, don't worry. But for the most part, I'm
excited to see. Indiana's a great basketball state, a great
basketball culture. Rick Carlisle's proven himself to be a great
basketball coach for all kinds of different people and all
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kinds of different circumstances. So that's impressive. And of course
OKC is really impressive. I know that there's a real
chip on the shoulder of the people of Seattle about
Oklahoma City. But you know, Oklahoma is the twenty largest
television market and they do a great job supporting their teams.
I got to be honest, I mean, not to divert
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it because I don't really know. I mean, I don't
really want to be.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Like, oh, they're awesome out there with Hart and Starn.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
I love Harvey Hustle, you know. I mean, one of
the stuff you here on TV or just you know,
kind of comes to you when you're watching the games.
But I will say, like in regards to Oklahoma, the
state of Oklahoma, and I've traveled all around, and I
played college football at a blue blood program, which we
would be considered a blue blood program nationally USC To me,
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Washington's a blue blood program. But I think you get
to have a hard time getting people on the East
Coast to recognize that. But but I've been all around.
I've never called a game in the Horseshoe, but I've
been to the Big House and all these other places.
And I have to say, you know, Texas and all that,
I have to a Notre Dame. But I think the
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team that celebrates their history the best and understands how
to celebrate their program the best within the context of
a game, week of a game, of a production of
the game, you know, down to the statues outside the building.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Is the Oklahoma Sooners.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
All class.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'd like to go to a game there. I've been
in Nebraska. I've never been to Oklahoma. Nebraska is great,
and Nebraska is similar. But Oklahoma to me, and I've
done a game in Lincoln too, but Oklahoma to me
is I mean, they just haven't figured out. I wish
Mi alma Mater had twenty percent of what they have
figured out on how to promote their program, how to
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celebrate their program, how to make everybody feel part of
the program. I mean, just down to the idiot color analyst.
I mean in their hotel room, when you stay there,
the athletic director writes a note to you about how
great it is to have you in Norman. They give
you a chocolate that's the shape of the state. You know,
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a hat for your kid.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
You know, you know that the a d comes in
the booth before the game starts and you know, gives
you three four minutes of his time and smiles.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
I mean, they really know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
That's cool.
Speaker 6 (53:13):
And uh, you know, and and and still Water they
do a great job too. Gundy is a wild man,
but when you get into his little fiefdom, it's cool too,
you know. So what I guess what I'm saying is,
you know, Oklahoma is is a great sports place, and
it's a great place for that NBA team despite the
terrible things that happened with the Sonics. Uh, obviously shouldn't
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have happened, and the people of Seattle didn't deserve that.
But that doesn't mean the people of Oklahoma don't do
a great job with that franchise, because because they really,
they really do. Uh and and I kind of see
it through the prism of my time spending Norman and
still Water and it's just they do a good job
with their sports.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
I'm glad I'm here to hear you say that. And
not Softy, because he'd be freaking.
Speaker 6 (54:02):
One time I told him to give me a Starbucks
because I was sleepy, and he almost kicked me in
the face out of his car, even know what he
was talking about.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I bet he always a pleasure, my friend. Maybe we'll
talk again next week, who knows.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
I hope not. I mean not that I I mean
I like talking to you, Dick, but I feel bad
for some time. You know, you come back on vacation,
you're champing at the bit to get on the air,
and now you sound like you know you swallowed every
cigarette button grease.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
You might have. You never know, never know what happens
over there. Thanks Petro's, Thanks Dick.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
You bet Petro's papaek as our friend here on ninety
three point three kJ r f M
Pacers in okayse to face the plunder Oklahoma City ten
point favorite in game number one, and to talk about
it at all things NBA. Our friend Kevin Collaboro joins us, Casey,
how are you.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Jick fan. I'm doing great man, beautiful day here in
the lovely Pacific.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Norm absolutely is it good to hear your voice. And
you know, Casey, the last time we heard your voice,
you turned into no stradamus. This was what was the
date on this, Jackson? May eight, May the eighth. I
mean we're talking about a freaking month ago when you
said this.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
I can see an Indiana Oklahoma City final.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Who got the NBA would hate that, but I don't.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Think Indiana beat. I'm saying it's Indiana and Oklahoma City
playing for the hearts and minds of Middle America.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Buckle up, baby, buckle up baby.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
I hope you put it. I hope you put a
couple of shekels on it.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Man. Well, apparently a lot of dick. Apparently a lot
of people are. I'm not a betting guy, but I
see Vegas five to one odds. You know the dogs,
Indiana dogs to Oklahoma City. That hasn't happened since four
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when our good friend Chouncy Phillips and the Detroit Pistons
upset the Los Angeles Lakers. So a lot of money
riding on Indiana as an underdog even though they're what
a nine and a half point dog tonight on the
road at Oklahoma City.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, you mentioned in that cut you kind of see right.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I'm not a Vegas No, you're not a Vegas guy.
I know you guys are the one dogs.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
I take the value.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
The value still, I think is on Indiana at five
to one. That's where if I had to place my
money on one side of the other, I'd probably go
five to one Indiana. But you kind of slid in
there when you said Indiana Oakley. Okay, see you kind
of slid I don't think they're gonna win though. So
now here we are a month later, are you closer
to believing they're gonna win or further from believing they're
gonna win?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Now? I think Indiana will make it a compelling series,
But I can see. My heart tells me at the
five game, my head says, my head tells me it's
a five game. My heart says, give me a six game,
because we need to see more basketball. This has been
such a great postseason. I think you'll agree.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yes, I just I can't.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Get enough of this, And I yeah, I know it's
a thunder, but I'm kind of over that. And with
the news that you guys just laid on me today,
I'm I'm even getting more over that. So go Indiana.
I'm a Pacer guy. You know that I grew up
in Indianapolis, Indiana. Bob Nettelek, he was my guy, sixty
seven sixty eight. Roger Brown, the Rajah. Look him up
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sports fans if you don't know who these two are,
the characters from the old Bobby Leonard days of the
Indiana Pacers in the transition from the ABA to the NBA.
But it's been great because you know, both these teams,
Dick have done it organically. It hasn't been going out
swinging for the fences, taking around a player and trying
to team them with two other superstars.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
So you mentioned great Perry, you tease there the news
from Adam Silver that we read in the last segment
for people just tuning in. Adam Silver did say that
there's going to be an owner's meeting in July. Expansion
will be on the agenda, and what I thought was interesting,
he says, we have committees already.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Talking about expansion.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
I didn't realize I thought the committees would be established
in July. So it sounds like it's even a little
bit further ahead than I thought. I mean, were you
were you encouraged by what you heard from the commissioner?
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Well, how could you not be right? How could you
not be It's coming from the commissioner before Game one,
you know, talked about a variety of issues, I mean
a variety of issues, but this came up. And this
is great news, I think for people that have wanted
over the years to see NBA basketball come back to Seattle.
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Twenty one years of history, a great legacy, a championship,
the great Hall of famers. It should have always been
part of the NBA. But now a real opportunity. The
first time since eight we've seen a real opportunity in
my opinion, And of course we've been led down the
path of course, the whole Sacramento situation and so forth.
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But this, really, this feels like it's coming directly from
the commissioner. It has the stamp of approval from the
Board of Governors to go to a search and do
due diligence and have that done by the time Dick,
they get to the Summer League, which is coming up
in July, when the Board of Governors will reconvene. And well,
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apparently Silver went so far as to say today, right,
that's the other big part of this news that's coming out,
and you guys are the first to tell me about it,
is that Silver is saying that they will then apparently
get into some real serious conversation in July about the process,
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and we'll get a timetable at that point. So I
think everybody'll wait expectantly to hear what they have to
say in July.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Can't wait for those meetings, no question about it.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
July is always fun for the NBA because it's right
when the beginning of free agency starts.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And then he got the orders of meeting crazy.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Do you believe maybe do you think with the expansion
back to Seattle, we'll say impending, potentially impending? Do you
believe that the Thunder then would sever all ties with
Sonic history and just give Seattle back their history and
this thunder say, hey, our history began in two thousand
and eight with year number one.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Do you think that will happen.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Dick, the way you've laid it out, that seems reasonable
to me. And I don't know if it'll happen, but
I think that's very reasonable, and I think there are
reasonable parties everywhere that's involved in this. Now. I think
the animus, I think the emotion has died down to
a point where we're all very practical people now, I think,
and I think the League would would find a pathway,
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uh that would allow obviously Oklahoma City realize their own
history and the Sonics to then reconnect with their their
old history. You know, So that'd be that'd be great.
I just I just think it'd be so so welcome
obviously in this city, in this region, but also in
the NBA. Everybody talks about when are they coming back
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to Seattle, Dick. You've heard, you heard and all the
assignments that you do in the w NBA. I'm sure
when are the Sonics coming back to Seattle? Right? You know?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
So Kevin Collaboro, the great Kevin Collaboro, And speaking of
my w NBA days that you helped me there, Kevin,
I remember giving you cassette tapes at Sonics games, saying
Casey can you can you listen to this and tell
me how.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Terrible it is?
Speaker 1 (06:48):
And you were great and helping me out, no question
about it. I'm sure you helped a lot of people
get their get their career started. But do you mention
the uh, you know, the lack of bitterness that you
feel anymore. And I I think a lot of people
don't nearly have. I don't nearly have the bitterness that
I had seventeen years ago, that's for sure. I mean
I can't stand watching Clayton Bennett celebrate in the in
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the front row at that arena, certainly. But you know,
I don't hold bitterness for the Oklahoma City fans, and
I certainly like the players on the Oklahoma City team.
It's just hard for me to watch them play in
that jersey.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Well, look at the sixty eight win team we're talking
about that, you know, beat Memphis. They were down two
to one to a very good Denver team and ended
up winning by thirty two in game seven, you know,
and SDA just came to life. He averaged like thirty
five in that series. They crushed Minnesota, I mean a
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thirty beat them by what thirty thirty two? Whatever it
was in game, in the in the wrap up of
the game, number one rated defense in the regular season
and better in the playoffs. You know, Edwards called him
puppets on a string, fifteen puppets on a string. And
when he says fifteen, he means that because they get
they are so deep. And that's that to me is
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a I mean, you tell me it's about the point
guard Dick and and if Halliburton is constantly seeing lou Dort,
uh Caruso, Jalen Williams, Sga Case and Wallace, they've got
six guys that are six five six six that can
go out there, that are quick and can check him.
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And I think that's a really it's going to be
a real issue for Indiana.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Have you talked to your old friend Rick Carlile lately,
who's leading his team into battle tonight.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I didn't mention lou Dort either. Who will open? Who
will open on it Tyres celebrating. I did reach out
to Rick Carlisle and wished him the best and congratulations
and he said thanks brother, and then he moved on.
Uh So, no, no real conversation, But I did you know,
I want to let coach you know that I appreciating
what he's doing. I always seem when he comes into
Portland and will be rolling Indiana. Always talked to him.
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He's such a terrific guy. Renaissance man, got his pilot's license.
He's now I think looking to fly jets or something
like that. He plays jazz piano and Oscar Peterson is
his idol. Very deep guy, interesting, interesting guy. You know.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
The hope that I'm holding on to for the Pacers
is that, you know, we aren't so far away from
the Thunder being down nine in the fourth quarter of
Game number five against Denver and they were about to
go down three to two in that series, and we
weren't far you know from a game seven. You know,
do you think that was just a you know, a
tough matchup for OKC because of the Jokic factor, or
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or do you think that maybe Rick can take something
from that series and use it to his vantage in
this series and we may be able to see, you know,
a situation in game number five in a two to
two series where the Pacers are up by nine.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
I think it was the Jokic situation because the aforementioned
list of defenders I talked about at six y five
or ill equipped out on the perimeter, which is where
he was orchestrating a lot of his offense, playmaking, shooting
threes and so forth. And they did not have the
bulk the size when he went into the mid block,
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and then he and Murray work screen and roll. That
was a real issue for him. Indiana doesn't present that issue.
I mean, Miles Turner can shoot the three. He's not
a terrific post up guy, good shot blocker there. I
think their strength obviously is in Halliburton, and it's in
Pascal Siakam, and then just their depth and the speed
of play, their tempos. They're as quick in points per
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a hundred possession in the NBA as there is. But
Oklahoma City, as we just mentioned, is an elead defensive team.
But they're a team that likes to gallop up and
down two. They can do that. That's what makes these
guys so good. It's not like they're just crushing you
at half court. They can defend you ninety four feet
and they will defend you with them. Even though Indiana
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pulls the ball out of the net, the thunder will
be back. There won't be any cap I mean, this
is not the New York Knicks we're talking about here.
So this is just a whole. It's a whole. Even
with Rick Carlisle, as brilliant as he is in you know,
trying to establish yourself against this this defensive Oklahoma City team,
it's just been I mean, I was looking at their
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their evolution dictated twenty two to twenty three. They had
forty wins that year. They were fourteenth defensively. They go
to fifty seven wins last year. Okay, that's the seventeen
win improvement. They lose to Dallas in the second round,
but they don't have Caruso, they don't have Hartenstein. They
had those two guys sixty eight wins and they're sixteen
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and four right now in the postseason. Yeah. I mean,
to me, that's the team that's an all timer. Yeah,
so we we got we got to swallow that. And
I think there they're gonna be a club that's going
to be there the next three four years. Even with
this salary cap and the tears in the April and
all that stuff. Sam Presty has proven to be just
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one of the elite administrators in all the professional sports
in the world, not just North America. But the world
and a championship I think would obviously confirm that to everybody.
What is evident. You know, he was the Executive of
the Year obviously this year.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Yeah, and he's loaded with first round draft picks for
the next decade too, So they're they're not going anywhere,
that's for sure. Final a couple of minutes with the
with Kevin collabro here. You know, Jackson and I were
talking about the Small Market Finals earlier, and I mentioned
that I thought, hey, you know, if the networks in
the NBA wanted to do themselves a service, then maybe
they would put Indiana on national TV more than nine
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times this year. It wasn't like Indiana wasn't in the
East Finals last year.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
They were a good team with an up and coming star.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean case they put the Celtics on twenty six times,
the Lakers on twenty seven, the Warriors on twenty four,
and the Pacers on nine, so it's like they could.
But Jackson just said, hey, they just want to put
those stars on and they'll whatever they get in the
NBA Finals, they'll like, we'll take because we want to
make sure our eyeballs are on. Steph Curry and Lebron
James and Jason Tatum and the joker all season long?
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Is that?
Speaker 1 (13:07):
How do you do you think it affects the ratings much?
And do you think they go about it the right
way by not putting teams like the Pacers on the
rest of the year.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Oh boy, that's that's the beauty. I read an article
today about how put off the players were because they
weren't playing on Christmas both Oklahoma City and Indiana last
year or this year. And you know, so, I think
the effect on players is the players notice that. Yeah,
so let's start there. The players know that, and they've
got a chip and that serves them well. As evidence.
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We've seen that with these two teams arriving where they are. Now,
that's part of it is their swagger. Hey, you know
we're flyover country. Big networks don't want us because we're
not Boston, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, Ibody. We know
that about that here in the Pacific Northwest, Dick. So
you know, nothing has changed, and I don't think I
think they're you know, they will be seen more next year.
I think because of who they are and because they
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have young, demonstrable stars. I mean Oklahoma City, I think
is the second youngest team in the NBA behind the Blazers,
and people are getting to know them now. You know,
I mentioned that jumped from forty to fifty seven to
sixty eight. Well, that deserves them. That gives you cache
in the marketplace, and it puts you on national TV.
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So we are going to see more of Oklahoma City.
And from a media standpoint, you can get a very
good meal in Oklahoma City. I mean, they've got great
steak restaurants there. The problem is, Dick, as you probably know,
you got to it's connecting territory. You got to connect
to a flight. You see where Indiana had to circle
and avoid tornadoes Tulsa and set it out and then
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and the circle back ahead to Oklahoma City. But so
it goes life on the planes.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
You know, Hey, you mentioned New York earlier. What do
you think that? Why do you think TIBs was fired
Game one?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And the fact that Indiana beat him last Indiana beat
him last year, and I think he wore his guys out,
He didn't really develop his bench and then try to
go to his bench at certain times. And I you know,
the thing is, I just think time had run. Its course,
it's about star players in this league, and Leon Rose
is of course, you know Synonymous would bring in brunts,
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it in Brunton's dad, Karl, Anthony Townsend, so forth, So
you know this was a Leon move. I don't know
who they're going to hire. I don't think it's going
to be Jay Wright. I don't think we're going to
have a Villanova reunion.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
What about Mike Malone.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
I don't now Mike Malone I think is you know,
obviously I like Taylor Jenkins, the guy that was at Memphis.
I think he's terrific. Yeah. I don't think Jeff van
Gundy because he was so close with Mike Tibodeaux and
I don't really know if he gets along with Dolan
or not. I tell you what, I would reach out
to Van Gundy if I were New York, but you know,
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who knows, no idea what the relationship is there. And yeah,
from there, I really don't have any names for you.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah, well it'll be interesting to see, well, Casey, it
is always a pleasure. I every single time I watched
the Pacer game the last month and they kept winning
and winning and winning, I thought about your call on
May the eighth that the Pacers were gonna play the
Thunder in the NBA Finals, and you were indeed right.
But I hope you're not right about who's gonna win
the finals, but I think you will.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Be right about who's gonna win the finals. All right,
have a great tell you know.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Go ahead, just enjoy it. Enjoy this beautiful sunny Pacific Northwest.
And that news today from Adam Silver, that his big news.
That's great news for all his basketball fans here in
the Northwest. Love it.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Thanks you, Casey. We'll talk to you soon, all right, man,
take care, all right. You bet that's Kevin Collaboro the Goat,
no question about it. Kevin Collaboro is the greatest.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
We couldn't have dreamed for better timing to have the
Adam Silver.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Yeah, thank you, Adam Silver. So we'll get you caught
up in the next segment and you can make of
whatever you want to make of what Adam Silver had
to say. We'll we'll read the comments again. Coming up next,
I'll give you my take on the series that starts
in about ten minutes. Coming up Non ninety three point
three KJFMOD.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
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Speaker 1 (17:35):
Yeah, welcome back Softian Dick without the soft one, still's
got the frog in his throat. We'll see if we'll
hear from him tomorrow. Phil, you know, take take the weekend.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Did he call you this morning like he called me,
just texted?
Speaker 2 (17:49):
He didn't.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
He calls me at about seven to fifty eight am.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Oh, because he knows I'm not Yeah, I'm not answering
my phonem he.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Knows that way, he didn't, So he calls me at
seven fifty eight am and he just says, how's my voice?
First words out of how's my voice? The first horrible yeah,
and then it went downhill from there.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Oh my goodness. Well he's missing a pretty big day.
Adam Silver indicating today that there could be authorization to
start a formal expansion process from the league's owner League's
owners coming in July during the next Board of Governor's meeting.
He says it's not automatic, but quote, it depends on
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your perspective on the future of the league. As I've
said before, an expansion in a way is selling equity
in the league, and if you believe in the league
and you don't necessarily want to add partners. On the
other hand, we recognize there are undeserved markets, underserved markets
in the United States and elsewhere, and I think markets
that deserve to have NBA teams, probably even if we
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were to expand more than we can serve. We've got
an owner's meeting in July in Las Vegas. It will
be on the agenda to take the temperature of the room.
We have committees that are already talking about it. That's
a big part right there, that they already have committees
talking about it. But my sense is at the meeting,
they're going to give direction to me and my colleagues
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at the league office that we should continue to explore.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So not only do they have committees.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
He kind of indicated he already knew what they were
going to tell him in July, So he's saying, here's
what we're going to do in July.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
But I already think.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
I know what's going to happen in July. So when
he was asked later about exploration and what that means.
He said he believes that the owner's authorization would create
the start of a formal process. And so you know,
here's another quote. If a decision is made that there
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should be further exploration by the league's office and presumably
a committee of team owners, it would be more of
a formal process. There's been no lack of interest. Certainly
have we got a lot of unsolicited calls and I
essentially have said to people from different cities, we're not
engaging in that process right now, and I want to
be fair to everyone, So I want don't want to
have meetings with somewhere or other. If you're out there
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thinking that Seattle hasn't talked to that's that's that.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
I mean, that's just something that he has to say.
But exactly that is just okay, whatever. But I think
the thing is, you know, we have we haven't started.
It makes it pretty clear they're dicking those comments. We
haven't started a formal process yet. So, if I'm just
reading this correctly, Adam Silver doesn't think that organizing a
committee to talk about NBA expansion dictates or is counted
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as a formal process.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
Buddy, If that ain't a formal process, I don't even
know what is a formal process. If you have a
committee that you have have set and that you have
talked about and figured out this is a thing that
we are doing. We are building a team, We are
building a group of people to talk about this. That
is a formal part of the process, mister Silver. And
this is what we would talk to what we talked
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about at the All Star Game when the last time
we heard from from Adam Silver was.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That all the roadblocks are gone now right.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
We had these roadblocks that needed to be taken care of,
and that and that Boston roadblock, I think it potentially
cost us a year. I think, I mean, I think
there was there was a there was a real possibility
that I think the NBA could have been here in
twenty six, twenty seventh, good point. And I think Boston
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probably cost us a year because it definitely delayed them
six plus. I meant, no, I mean, just is what
it is, right, I mean, those things, those things come up,
but there are no more roadblocks, right, and so that
is a really really cool thing and hopefully it'll be
Hopefully it'll make it easier for fans in Seattle to
watch this series because if you're just a if, if
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you can, if you can put aside the Oklahoma City
side of things, root for Indiana of course, and just
watch basketball because it's gonna be good basketball. I think
that's really really cool. I think I mean Jackson when
it comes, let's let's let's put it. Let's put it
in in your parlance with soccer, you've had so many
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of these. Let's say, you've had so many of these
MLS Cup final games.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
Where's the perfect one to one? Actually?
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Okay, it's Portland Timbers facing off against New York City
in the twenty twenty one MLS Cup. Sounders had lost
in twenty twenty and we were all heartbroken about that.
And then in twenty twenty one, Portland is right there
back in the championship game, hosting the championship game, and
the question would be did I watch it or not?
Speaker 3 (22:37):
No? I did not? Okay, okay, so why do you
watching this one? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:42):
What?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What does Indiana have to do to get you to
watch this one?
Speaker 5 (22:47):
So?
Speaker 4 (22:47):
What in that specific game when Portland was hosting their
championship I didn't watch that game until penalty kicks, because
in penalty kicks it was the best shot. I thought
all game that oh my gosh, Orland might actually lose this,
and that it's I mean, it's always the hope that
kills you. But that was the biggest moment of hope
that I had that Portland was going to lose. So
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if this series reaches a point where Indiana has three wins,
I will then watch from there because that will then
give me the most hope of oh my gosh, Oklahoma
City might actually lose. But until Indiana have three wins,
I just I'm gonna emotionally protect myself. I don't want
any sort of hope to then kill me, so you know,
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I'll ot ted last. So so I'm just gonna stay
away from it until that point because I just can't
handle it. And as much as this news hypes me up,
expansions happening, et cetera, et cetera, I just like I
compartmentalize it and the anger and the frustration and the
sadness of watching. Okay, see, when it's time, I gotcha
that it will just be too proud.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
I guarantee you I will not be watching when Oklahoma
City wins the championship. I guarantee you, Hey, let's flip
it around. At what point do you turn it off?
I turn it off when I feel like the series
is over, and I probably feel like the series is over.
I want to see how game one and two hold up.
What does that mean though? When when they SERI like,
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what does that mean when you feel like the series
is over? Is it the Thunder leading by ten points
in the fourth quarter of a deciding games?
Speaker 2 (24:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (24:18):
No, no, no no.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
If the Thunder are up to nothing and they lead
at Indiana by ten and the third I'm probably that's
your point. I'm probably done. I'm probably done. But I
want to see how these first two games go. I mean,
are these first two games one twenty five to one ten?
Or are they one oh eight one oh seven in overtime?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Like? Like are they? Are they great games?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
And you know when ten seems like a big number
in any NBA Finals game and it's a it's a
ten point spread today, But in the last twenty years,
listen to this, Jackson underdogs in Game one of the
Finals by any spread, just underdogs are two and eighteen
straight up two and eighteen. So there's only been two
road wins in Game one in the last twenty years,
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Indiana would have to be bucking a massive, massive trend.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I didn't need that in my life. I understand that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
But let me give you some good news. Okay, let
me give you some good news. If you just go
player by player, it's.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Not a slam dunk. It really isn't.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Yes, the best player in the series is on Oklahoma City,
but it's not by a landslide. Oklahoma's got number one,
Indiana's got number two, and I think number three in
Tyrese Haliburton and Pascal Siakam. I'll give OKC numbers four
and five with Jalen Williams and Chet Holmgren. Okay, but
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then beyond that, I mean you're looking at at Miles
Turner for Indiana, you're looking about at nemhard Nie Smith.
I think they're just as good as Cason Wallace and
Caruso and Dort and Hartenstein.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I just think when you look at just talent for talent.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Yeah, yeah, I think it's Oklahoma City I would give
an advantage to, but not a massive advantage. It's just
Oklahoma has played more consistently well over the course of
the year than Indiana has.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
But Indiana has played well since January really.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
Well, since Ga, we need this to be like a
two thousand and four Detroit Pistons over Lakers situation.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, and arguably.
Speaker 1 (26:22):
That that was just a great team beating a couple
of unbelievable players, and Indiana needs to play like a
great team.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Five point thirty nine.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
We're gonna have some fun in the next segment because
tomorrow is Bracket Friday, and Jackson and I need to
determine what kind of bracket we're going to do tomorrow,
and I think we've got a pretty good one for you.
Speaker 3 (26:40):
We'll discuss it next.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
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Speaker 1 (27:01):
All Right, tomorrow's Friday, which means in the summertime, it's
bracket Friday.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Here on the afternoon show.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You know, I just realized something, Dick, Yes, So right now,
Hughes scheduled to join us at four o'clock tomorrow. We
have the Stanley Cup Final at five o'clock. I'm not
sure if we're going to be able to fully literally
just thought of this as we were hitting the rejoint here.
I'm not sure if we'll have time to fit it in,
but if we did three five, we might have to
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or we just move Hugh. But we're producing on the
fly here, ladies and gentlemen, this is a show meeting
we're having live on air.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
We might have to move, Hugh. We'll see what Softie
looks like, because if Softie's a lot of sand or
butts about it, we might have to move, Hughes, so
we can fit the bracket in. We'll have to move.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
We'll figure this out. Well, here's the let's let's just
get the brackets started. Yeah, regardless, So let's discussed because
we need we need to discuss and and the topic
I've come up with is most unforgettable non Seattle sports moments, unforgettable,
most unforgettable I forgot. I think that's I think that's
probably the way to go unforgettable, right because you know,
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we had a great moment last night.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
We'll see if Edmonton goes on to win the series.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
But if they do, I mean, that was an overtime
goal in Game number one, and Edmonton was absolutely phenomenal.
I don't star players by star player Connor McDavid, Leon
Dreisidel like that was.
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That was big.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
I don't think it would make this bracket, but that
was a big, big moment. Hopefully we'll get some big
moments from the Indiana Pacers in this. How about a
game seven Tyrese Haliburton three to win it to shut
up okay in their house. I mean, that would definitely
make the bracket. There's no question about that. Whether that's
non Seattle or whether that's Seattle or non Seattle.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
And that's kind of vague right there.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
But we got to define a timeline on this because
I've got a few that were pre two thousand and
then a bunch that are post two thousand and If
I were to extend it to pre two thousand, I
would have Mira klon Ice, I would have Kirk Gibson.
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I would have Latner against Kentucky. I would have Jordan
over Russell. I would have Jack nineteen eighty six Master.
Speaker 4 (29:10):
There's only a there's a there's a big problem with uh,
with with the specific wording of this bracket and all
these things that you're saying. Uh I was born in
nineteen ninety two, Dick fans right, and to be unforgettable. Uh,
none of those count as well.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
I think if we're moving it back that far, then
we have to have greatest, right, then we have to
have greatest moment. I love the word unforget, like I'm forgettable.
I think we just do this quarter centurine, then we
probably have to do since two thousand. All right, well,
let's let's hear you want to hear my Your list
is longer than mine, so you may give my list
and then you can tell me whether it's on your
list or max. Let's go, and I'm sure I've forgotten some,
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but the Texters can help out of four nine, four
or five one, and you can help as well, in
no particular order.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
Cubs break the Curse.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
Didn't have that, but that is a good one.
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Cubs break the Curse is a moment that you yeah,
just the ground ball to yea Chris Bryant. Yeah, yes,
I mean it's funny.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
It's like, the the biggest Cubs moment is actually Steve Bartman.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
That was in a loss.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But the Cubs breaking akers seven against Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Oh yeah, series, Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
So that was good Tiger winning the Masters after the comeback,
which one the comeback the last yeah, comebacks, that one
the comeback Masters red Sox rally from three to h yep,
I mean that is that one. That's the greatest sports
series that I think I've ever seen. I think the
unforgettable moment of that was our tease walking it off
and you have Joe Buck saying we'll see you later tonight.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Yep, see you later tonight.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That was so good, so good. Phelps eight gold medals.
Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, I thought about that.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
I didn't have it on the list just because I
don't know, like it was consecutive and sort of like
you know, I don't remember the eighth race.
Speaker 3 (30:51):
It was sort of just you remember the memorable one first. Yeah,
the memorable one was the relay.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
Memorable one was the relay with the touch underneath the
I didn't.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
Send any record. It was just kind of sorry, you
didn't set there, like the metals record. It was just
the best race of the eight.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
It didn't set the metals record. That's coreat correct. So
I didn't have that. Okay, all right.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Texas USC which I think is the best college football
game and I think the most entertaining college football game.
Was might have been Boise State, Oklahoma, but on my list, Okay, okay,
but since this is a national championship, maybe maybe that's
a first round matchup. Who knows Alcaholma versus Texas USC
that that could be a first round matchup. Patriots come back,
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even though we hate the Patriots, Patriots come back against Atlanta.
I mean, dude, twenty.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
See for me, like, I picked one Patriot moment to
have on my on my list of things, and that
was David Tyree's helmet catch.
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Because I think the helmet catch.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Which is a Giants moment, I mean sure, but obviously
it was to deny the Patriots of Perpe.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Deny that on the list should be on the list.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
That was my patriotskay, because I didn't want to have
two Patriots on the list.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
Yeah, we can't have two Patriots on the list, No way.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Chris Jenkins Villanova. I mean, it's the only buzzer beater list,
the only buzzer beating I lost. I lost five hundred
dollars on that shot.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
But it's smoke. That's no good.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Freddy Freeman last year, Freddy Freeman's that was the first
time the whole walk off to win the World Series.
Kirk Gibson Part two, Yes, Kirk Gibson, Pard doing d
and then Lebron's block of Andre Igudala. I mean that
is the most iconic basketball moment probably this century.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
Right.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
You know what which numbers series was that for Lebron
versus this Warriors?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Was that the third time they played number series?
Speaker 6 (32:39):
Was that?
Speaker 4 (32:39):
Didn't they play like three times in four years or
something like that? But that was the one that the Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Won because Kyrie came back and hit the three after
the block. But that block, I mean, the game's over.
If Lebron James doesn't block that shot, the game's over.
There is no Kyrie the block.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
Blocked, layup down.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
You had to come from behind and pin it against
the pinted against the window.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
That's probably a good So those are mine? How about yours?
Speaker 2 (33:05):
That?
Speaker 3 (33:05):
Are there any there that I've that I've overlooked?
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Yeah, I think on an international scale, Messi finally winning
the World Cup. It's the greatest soccer player of all
time and it's the greatest soccer game of all time.
So we have the greatest player in the greatest game
of this of this single sport and the you know,
the biggest sport on Earth, and it's him finally doing it,
and you know it.
Speaker 3 (33:26):
For me, anytime you.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Can add greatest player in the greatest game of a
given sport, that's that creates a moment, that creates a scene.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
So I have that, Okay.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I also let's see going down the list of things
that you didn't mention. Mario Chalmers against Memphis, but I
think Villanova's is bigger because it was one.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (33:43):
I was softy and I were at the Chalmers game,
Yeah amazing.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
We were at the.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Kobe Bryant's final game where he went off in that
final game.
Speaker 3 (33:51):
Yeah, sixty five or something.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I also had his eighty one point game, but I
think his retirement game was a little bit bigger because
that transcended sports. Kobe to Shaq Ali Oup in the
NBA Finals. But again, if we're including one, I'm gonna
go with Kobe's retirement game because it was just so his.
That's that's my two cents on which Kobe would be
bigger mm hm uh. And then Ray Allen to beat
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the Spurs in the finals. But I think yours finals
moment of Lebron is probably bigger than Ray Allen. That's
just my Seattle sports fan speaking up Bill's chiefs AFC
Divisional round.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
That was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Luis Gonzalez walks it off, But I almost think that
Freddy Freeman's even though it didn't win this series, is bigger.
But Luis Gonzales walk off Game seven over the Yankees. Yes,
Barry Bonds breaking the record, COVID stopping the NBA game
mid midimual.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
Yeah, Rudy Cobert, that's not bad guy. There's so many
of them. There's so many of them.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
The last one I didn't have, you didn't have was
Landon Donovan USA Soccer. But again, I think Leonel Messi would. Yeah,
we got most of the time.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I'm looking at Bleacher Report ranking and they had number one,
David Tyree, they had number two, they had number two
Lebron James. Okay, there you go, they had number three.
The Patriots come back, Auburn kicks six. We did have
Auburn kick six, but it's a rivalry. I think I
think you basically have the eight. We'll see them up
for tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
It sounds good. We are not adding their number six.
By the way, which was Malcolm Butler. Butler's interception. We're
not not adding that one, absolutely five pot fifty five
and we got top of the our headlines.
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Speaker 1 (36:42):
Doc, how you doing? Petrosia is a summer treating you? Well,
I saw you. You're a Dodger. You're at the Dodger
game or a post Dodger game today, right?
Speaker 3 (36:51):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (36:52):
Today will be on after Yeah, they're on. Well they're yeah,
well actually it's over now, but they were on and
we were on. But yes, they played an early game
today against the.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Mets and they had a walk off yesterday. Is that right?
Speaker 6 (37:06):
Is a walk off?
Speaker 2 (37:07):
No?
Speaker 6 (37:07):
No, they got destroyed yesterday two days ago. They walked
it off. A day before that, the Mets beat them
in extras. You can't walk it off on the road,
and that was that. They have lost three of the
last four after starting to win the first. They started
to win on their home stand against the Yankees the
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first two and now they've lost three of the last
four with the Yankees and Mets here in town. So
that's a lot of mailboxhead New York types in Dodger
Stadium having a great time enjoying themselves.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Do people panic even though you're a great baseball team?
Do people panic similarly to how they panic in Seattle?
Because like, if the Mariners go through a three game
losing streak like they they will never win a game again,
according to Mariner fans.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
And because the people have seen it, right, they've seen
the team fall to pieces. Yeah, we like to call
it the Panic Brothers. On the Petres and Money Show,
Matt and I become the Panic Brothers and hit the button.
And I don't know if it's valid or not. And
when it comes to the Dodgers, even though they've had
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some pretty humiliating early exits in the last six or
seven years in the nl DS and Atlanta and the NLCS, NLDS,
was the Nationals, the Padres and the d Backs, you know,
all teams that they dominated during the regular season, especially
the ones in division. So people have seen that kind
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of stuff happen, and we would like to hit the
panic button and say this is terrible, and I mean,
but even you know, they end up winning one hundred
games a year, ninety plus and when you put on
real baseball analysts, like your John Hayman types or Eric
Carros or Brett Boone, you know guys like that. You
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put those guys on and you say, my god, the
Dodgers have lost three or four, what are we gonna do?
We're all gonna die, And they tell you, you know, relax, guy,
it's all you know. And I know that it's true
as well, Like I know that there's you can't you
can't freak out when there's that many games. In the
world of Major League Baseball, the grind and the long
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form of the season is really what shapes a champion.
I know all those things. But the people that are
standing there telling me to calm down, they don't have
to do a four hour freaking radio show. That's fair.
I mean, you know.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
I mean.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
I said something to our new boss the other day.
I was like, yeah, Angels swept the Dodgers. Here was awesome.
He's like, what do you mean. I was like, dude,
we need that, We need something to happen so we
can react to it other than hey, the team's really good.
That actually is like that Twilight Zone episode where the
guy is a gambler and he goes to the casino
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and does nothing but win, right, and it works out
for him and he finds out that he's in hell,
Like you don't want to just win the whole time,
you know, you.
Speaker 1 (40:09):
Got to have a little tidy. Absolutely Petros joining us here.
You know, it's say it's OTA's for the Seahawks. And
it's just another reason why the Seahawks didn't allow the
media in last week, because this week when the media
was let in, they have to do their due diligence
and report that Sam Darnold had two interceptions in a
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red zone drill and then.
Speaker 3 (40:33):
All hell breaks loose.
Speaker 1 (40:36):
Mike McDonald is asked if there's a potential that Sam
Darnald might not be the starter. That reporter is being
called crazy by the head coach, and now it's a
national story. My god, is this This is where we've
gotten to in the NFL in June, where where two
interceptions in the first week of OTA is the biggest
story in football.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
That's what they want.
Speaker 6 (40:58):
I mean, the NFL wants that, like the NBA wants
their story regarding you know, whatever's happening and who's being
recruited in the off season. Kawhi Leonard flying around being courted.
I think about DeAndre Jordan with Mark Cuban driving around
Dallas and Doc Rivers driving around. You know, stories that
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hijack the twenty four hour news media when you're not
actually playing. Is like, that's like Beluga caveat. That's right
to these leagues, and the NFL is the rich getting richer. Obviously,
the interest in OTAs is amazing to me. I know that,
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you know, there's people that follow the teams very closely
and they want it reported on. But at the same time,
these people don't understand football practice. And people really don't
understand football practice. And I'm not going to stand here
and act like I have it all figured out, because
I don't. Practice is literally scripted by the football coaches.
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The offense is against the defense. There's nobody else coming
in unless it's a joint practice with a different team,
and it's all scripted and it's all put out there.
I'm not saying that it's like a WWF battle. I'm
just saying it's really really hard, very difficult for anybody
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in the media to stand on the sideline of a
football practice while they're catching up about their daughter's recital
and you know, making small talk on the sideline and
really understand, now, if a god throws a picky throws
a pick. I'm not trying to split hairs here. But
they don't know what they're looking at. And whenever I
go to football practice, unless I really lock in and
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really try to talk to somebody, if somebody gives me
a script of the practice, I don't know what I'm looking.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yes, And you've been in a lot more football practices
than most of these reporters have, right and on.
Speaker 6 (42:59):
The inside of them and all around them and in
people's camps and in people's meetings and all that, and
I don't know what's going on, because it's not meant
for you to know what's going on. It really isn't.
And a lot of the time they set guys up
that are losing confidence or lacking confidence. They set those
guys up for success.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
You know.
Speaker 6 (43:19):
In some situations they set up the offense for success,
and some they set up the defense for success. When
you're going live in practice, usually the defense has the
advantage because they know that offense because they're on their team,
and they know it's right. I mean, you know it's
so Look if a guy goes out and throws five
picks a day in practice and he's totally inaccurate.
Speaker 3 (43:40):
There's a problem.
Speaker 6 (43:41):
Well, and the buzz starts to be created that, hey,
this guy's not performing. It doesn't happen the first day
of OTAs or whatever the hell is going on. So
it's it's a non story. It is more of an
indicator to me what the NFL is off season wise
because Sam Donald throws a pick and OTAs became a
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national story and so few people really like how many
people were out there when he threw the pick? What
was he wearing?
Speaker 2 (44:11):
You know?
Speaker 3 (44:12):
Was there a pass rush?
Speaker 6 (44:13):
Was he eluding something like?
Speaker 2 (44:15):
What was going?
Speaker 6 (44:15):
No one even knows, you know, what was the drill?
Red zone drill? Was it seven on seven? Was it
a half field type of deal? What was it a
was it a run drill? And no pads? Like what
are we talking about? And all of those things kind
of just make it more and more comical. Now, if
Sam will could Sam Donald struggle, Sure he could, he
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struggled before on an NFL team. I happened to really
like Sam Donald, and I hope he has a great
turnaround or his great turnaround continues. I should say, but, uh, yeah,
I don't think it's much of a story. But I
think overreacting to anything that happens in a football practice
other than a guy getting injured or a guy getting
his jaw broken in a fight is pretty pretty silly.
Speaker 1 (45:00):
Well, we certainly have a different vibe at head coach
now than we did, and we just got another example
of that yesterday when, evidently this was also reported by
the crack media here, Mike McDonald got mad at his
team because they were competing too hard. Could you imagine
your guy Pete saying that he's angry at his team
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because they're competing too hard in an Ota?
Speaker 3 (45:26):
Well, no, no, I could not imagine.
Speaker 6 (45:30):
I could imagine Pete getting angry if they competed too
hard against him when he's trying to act like he's
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
But I.
Speaker 6 (45:39):
Know, and look, people get excited when you play football
and you're not in pats for months and months, and
you have all this bravado and testosterone, and you've been
training and training and training to go out there and
move around like a football player, and they give you
the opportunity, that first opportunity in high school, we call it,
(46:00):
you know, spring football. In college, we call it spring football.
In the NFL is shorter and a lot less violent,
and it's called OTAs. And from what I understand, they're
only in helmets, right, that's all you. Yeah, So when
you're only in a helmet, that's you know, you feel lighter,
(46:21):
and you feel like you feel like you could jump
over a car, and you get out on the field
and you really do feel electric and you're excited to
be out there. You're excited to be with your teammates,
and it's the Hope, Springs, Eternal New Year, all that stuff.
So I understand exactly what he's saying. Pete would never
(46:42):
use that terminology. Pete would say, look, we got to
tone it down when we're not in full pads and
things of that nature. But I'm pretty sure that's what
coach means. When we're not in full pads, we can't
go at each other like we are, no matter how
excited we are to be back on the football field.
And it really goes to a very interesting chemistry experiment
(47:04):
in the world of football, because when the actual season comes,
or when you're in camp and you're really starting to compete,
compete for positions, compete for playing time and all that
different stuff. You know, you hear coaches say right on
all the time. If there's a fight in practice or something,
they say, hey, we want these guys right on the edge,
you know, right on the edge. And that's the truth.
(47:24):
They want you right on the edge of exploding into
anger and violence, and that is preparing most of your
football team for battle. So I understand exactly what he's saying,
but it is an interesting juxtaposition considering the win forever mentality.
Speaker 3 (47:41):
Yes, that's right, which exists in Vegas. Now do yourself.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm listening to Bruce Springsteen.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Did you see did you see the.
Speaker 1 (47:48):
Video today from Pete chomping you chopping on the gum
white wide receiver gloves monarchs on the feet Khaki's on
and then he runs up and literally like does the
people's elbow on an unwitting offensive lineman who's stretching on
the ground.
Speaker 6 (48:02):
Isn't it fun?
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Isn't it so much fun?
Speaker 6 (48:05):
Got he so much?
Speaker 3 (48:06):
I was just cracking you.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Go.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
You will find that on the internet and you will
get a chuckle out of it. Petro's joining us, so
our long national nightmare is over. Aaron Rodgers is a
Pittsburgh Steeler Petrose, what do you think?
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Well, I mean, I guess you figured that they had
a wink and a smile and a long standing understanding
throughout the whole summer. And it's the same thing we
talked about, I think last week, which is the older guys,
they really want to do less and less and less.
That's right when it comes to the season, and fair enough,
it's excruciating. It's td a toweringly tedious to get ready
(48:48):
for a football season, and I can't imagine doing it
after ten twelve years at the NFL level, and guys
that play tight end in different stuff like that, they
have the luxury of taking more time off. If a
quarterback tries to get out for a little while, like
Brady did when he was going through his divorce, no
matter how old he is, it's a problem. If you're
(49:08):
the quarterback, you got to be there. So I guess
this is about as far as Rogers could have gone
without disturbing the continuity anymore. He'll get in there for
proper camp and learn their offense, and we'll see what
the Steelers can do with him at quarterback. It should
be very interesting, it could be, and maybe I predict
(49:30):
if his body holds up like the Brett Favre seasons
in Minnesota, which were really, really, really productive and dizzying
as far as the coverage went from the NFL, and
they just washed him up every day until his body
finally gave out in the playoffs, if I remember correctly,
so I think they'll be good. I think that maybe
(49:53):
the drama around it that he had not signed was
something that everybody around the situation new was just going
to be temporary and that he was going to end
up there, So good for him. We'll see what happens.
I can't wait to see his weekly spot.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
I'll tell you, yes, yep, Pat McAfee again for another
for another year, I'm sure. But hey, Petros, before you
let you go, are you excited for our small market
matchup in the NBA Finals?
Speaker 3 (50:19):
I mean, I guess, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
I mean, around here, we just wait for Lebron to
do something to put himself in the media cycle and
he will, don't worry. But for the most part, I'm
excited to see. Indiana's a great basketball state, a great
basketball culture. Rick Carlisle's proven himself to be a great
basketball coach for all kinds of different people and all
(50:45):
kinds of different circumstances. So that's impressive. And of course
OKC is really impressive. I know that there's a real
chip on the shoulder of the people of Seattle about
Oklahoma City. But you know, Oklahoma is the twenty largest
television market and they do a great job supporting their teams.
I got to be honest, I mean, not to divert
(51:06):
it because I don't really know. I mean, I don't
really want to be.
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Like, oh, they're awesome out there with Hart and Starn.
Speaker 6 (51:10):
I love Harvey Hustle, you know. I mean, one of
the stuff you here on TV or just you know,
kind of comes to you when you're watching the games.
But I will say, like in regards to Oklahoma, the
state of Oklahoma, and I've traveled all around, and I
played college football at a blue blood program, which we
would be considered a blue blood program nationally USC To me,
(51:34):
Washington's a blue blood program. But I think you get
to have a hard time getting people on the East
Coast to recognize that. But but I've been all around.
I've never called a game in the Horseshoe, but I've
been to the Big House and all these other places.
And I have to say, you know, Texas and all that,
I have to a Notre Dame. But I think the
(51:57):
team that celebrates their history the best and understands how
to celebrate their program the best within the context of
a game, week of a game, of a production of
the game, you know, down to the statues outside the building.
Speaker 2 (52:14):
Is the Oklahoma Sooners.
Speaker 3 (52:17):
All class.
Speaker 1 (52:18):
I'd like to go to a game there. I've been
in Nebraska. I've never been to Oklahoma. Nebraska is great,
and Nebraska is similar. But Oklahoma to me, and I've
done a game in Lincoln too, but Oklahoma to me
is I mean, they just haven't figured out. I wish
Mi alma Mater had twenty percent of what they have
figured out on how to promote their program, how to
(52:40):
celebrate their program, how to make everybody feel part of
the program. I mean, just down to the idiot color analyst.
I mean in their hotel room, when you stay there,
the athletic director writes a note to you about how
great it is to have you in Norman. They give
you a chocolate that's the shape of the state. You know,
(53:01):
a hat for your kid.
Speaker 6 (53:02):
You know, you know that the a d comes in
the booth before the game starts and you know, gives
you three four minutes of his time and smiles.
Speaker 3 (53:10):
I mean, they really know what they're doing.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
That's cool.
Speaker 6 (53:13):
And uh, you know, and and and still Water they
do a great job too. Gundy is a wild man,
but when you get into his little fiefdom, it's cool too,
you know. So what I guess what I'm saying is,
you know, Oklahoma is is a great sports place, and
it's a great place for that NBA team despite the
terrible things that happened with the Sonics. Uh, obviously shouldn't
(53:36):
have happened, and the people of Seattle didn't deserve that.
But that doesn't mean the people of Oklahoma don't do
a great job with that franchise, because because they really,
they really do. Uh and and I kind of see
it through the prism of my time spending Norman and
still Water and it's just they do a good job
with their sports.
Speaker 1 (53:53):
I'm glad I'm here to hear you say that. And
not Softy, because he'd be freaking.
Speaker 6 (54:02):
One time I told him to give me a Starbucks
because I was sleepy, and he almost kicked me in
the face out of his car, even know what he
was talking about.
Speaker 1 (54:08):
I bet he always a pleasure, my friend. Maybe we'll
talk again next week, who knows.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
I hope not. I mean not that I I mean
I like talking to you, Dick, but I feel bad
for some time. You know, you come back on vacation,
you're champing at the bit to get on the air,
and now you sound like you know you swallowed every
cigarette button grease.
Speaker 3 (54:26):
You might have. You never know, never know what happens
over there. Thanks Petro's, Thanks Dick.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
You bet Petro's papaek as our friend here on ninety
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