Softy & Dick 7-16 Hour 2: National Anthem, Hawks Camp, Jazz

In the second hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain talk about the situation with Ingrid Andress and her National Anthem last night, look ahead to Seahawks Training Camp starting up next week, then discuss the reactions to a possible M’s Jazz Chisholm trade.

Episode Transcript

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I think that's just a couple ofhousekeeping things we got to hit on here.
John Wilner would join us at five. Brian Schmetzer from the Brian Schmetzer
Orchestra at five point forty five tonight, Little you make the call as well.
We will not skip that coming upat six pm this evening. You
make the call. Conversation about IngressEgress at the Home Run Derby last night
aka Ingrid Andress aka Elvis Andres akaElvis Presley aka Jim Presley aka Jim mcelvain.

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It's so fun, it's been youknow what, in the spirit of
the moment, it's better when you'vehad a couple of cocktails, like our
friend Ingrid from last night. IngridAndres apologizing for last night's national anthem performance
of the Home Run Derby. Sheput out a statement today on social media.
I'm not gonna bs, y'all.And she didn't say bs. She

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went the whole way. I wasdrunk last night. I'm checking myself into
a facility today to get the helpI need. That was not me last
night. I apologized to MLB,all the fans in the country I love
so much for that rendition. I'lllet you all know how rehab I hear
it's super fun. XO Ingrid.So a couple things. First of all,
we found out I had no ideathat her dad was a trainer in

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baseball for a long time, andthat it might be how she kind of
got the gig yesterday. I'd neverheard of her until yesterday. I believe
her that she was aneebriated. Ibelieve her that she was drunk. I
believe her that she's got a problem. I believe that she's checking into a
rehab facility. But the little birdie, the conspiracy birdie that lives in my
ear canal, is chirping away,saying, wait a minute, is it

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possible that her representatives went to herand said, you know what, that
rendition was so bad. You arekilling your career. Unless you give people
a reason to give you a break, you will go on social media and
you will lie, and you willsay that you were drunk and you have
a problem. Because most of yourfans might be able to relate to that.
Anyway, go out there, sayyou're hammered, check into a rehab

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clinic, and let's rebuild your image. Because if you don't you're going down
in flames and you'll never get agig ever again. I mean, it's
certainly, it's certainly a possibility.I just we heard her sing. Jackson
played a song from her yesterday onthe air. She can sing, she
can carry a tune. So Idon't think she would purposely try to butcher

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her national anthem. I I don'tthink she did it. Oh wow,
that was appropriate. Here you go. I drink tequila straight and then I
went out and sang the anthem.Okay, I mean yes, I would
say I'm ninety eight point eight percentcertain that she was drunk. Yeah,
the one percent Birdie is what I'mtalking about. I didn't know the lyrics.
Sad I've never even heard of heruntil yesterday. I mean, that's

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the sad part is that she isnow known as the lady who sang the
anthem drunk at the home run Derby. That's what she's known as, right.
I'm sure she's got some fans outthere that know she is. I'd
never heard of her. Had youheard of her? No, I had
no idea who the hell she was. She even nominated for a few Grammys
though, sure, the country,you know the country I'm not watching the
CMA is apparently enough. I gottatune in to watch that thing. But

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now that you know and you listento it back, you have the clip
we played in Funn with audio.Yeah, you gotta, you gotta play
this again because just I want youto imagine her taking a couple of shots
of Patron before the show do whatevershe was doing, getting after it with
her buddies. You know, it'sa big honor. She's at the home
run derby. She invites some ofher high school friends to join her out

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there. They're throwing it back,a couple of glasses of wine, mixing
it with some gin and tonics,double fist on the hallway, and then
she goes out and she does this. Get the booms burst yay? Do
the what of fass I cut itoff? Cutting off dogs or art has

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been in a drunk It just itmakes too much sense. Are people going
to be mad that you're going tomaking fun of somebody that's in a rehab
who's making fun of her Art hasbeen in the drum. I'm not making
fun of her. That's Pat O'Brianmaking fun of her. What are you
talking to me? Has been that'svery mean of you. I mean,

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should we not? Can we not? Poke fun at her? Is that
bad? Has been this conversation yesterday? I feel like body gets offended about
everything. So there are absolutely peopleout there that will be offended if you
take shots at it. You knowwhat. I think there's a guy out
there we actually can get on theair and ask him. So my dad,

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you guys made it know this.My father, for a long time
was an administrator at a alcohol rehabtreatment center. The Northwest Treatment Center used
to be down the road here inBalad for a long time, and he
would take me there as a kid, and I would hang out and give
out cookies and candy to the youknow, people that lived there. And
that was a huge no no becausea lot of them could have sugar while
they were there. It was kindof part of the deal back in the
day. But Neil Scott, asyou guys know, right, if you

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haven't heard Neil, just the WienerShow's coming up, I think tomorrow,
is that right at seven o'clock onthe programmer eight o'clock. Okay, so
tune in for that Men's Health monthly. That's right, that's right. But
he also does his recovery. Shedoes recovery coast to coast or whatever it's
called. And my first job inradio, you guys know what it was,
right, My first job actually workingon a radio show was working for

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Neil Scott on his recovery talk show. I took calls from people that needed
help. That was me, okay, right, yeah, So I grew
up on that world. And oneof the things that they will tell you
that when you go through rehab,when you go through twelve step program or
whatever it is you're in, isyou take responsibility for what you've done.
And she embarrassed herself last night.She embarrassed a country, she embarrassed herself,

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she embarrassed a network. So ifpeople poked fund at her, that's
on her for what she did.Okay, Now, look, it's obviously
a disease. Alcoholism is not funny. It ruins family and it kills people
as it does. We all getthat. But I think, you know,
taking a couple of shots at herfor what she did yesterday and not
just being you know, totally onehundred percent a sympathetic character, but also

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making a little bit of time forsome comic relief. I don't have any
problem totally. I think you canhave balance. I absolutely think you can
make fun of the action and thensympathize with the situation. Look, yes,
because in the end, in theend, it was kind of a
no harm, no foul situation.She got hurt, she's gonna have to
go to rehab, she's gonna haveto get her life turned around. But

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if this was, for example,Dick, if she had gotten into a
car after singing the anthem and killedsomebody, totally different deal, right,
Like, I think we have amuch First of all, she's in jail,
and we have a much different reactionto all of that. So thank
god nothing like that happened. Butshe embarrassed herself. That's part of the
process here, except response ability forwhat you did. You were a clown

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on national TV. An absolute embarrassmenton national TV. And she's gonna have
to deal with that, rock Bottom. For everybody is different, and I
might be her rock botty getting let'sworld wide shame for her anthem. Yes,
let's hope it was. Well,I'll tell you what else we got,
man. Today is the sixteenth ofJuly. Do you know, Jackson,
what's happening in eight days from noweight days any idea, what's happening

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in eight days today? Tell usthe beginning of Seattle Seahawks training camp right
on? How about that? You'regetting ready to say no seahawked. Well,
I didn't know if you knew theanswer or not. I would would
hope you know the answer because wetalked about the scheduled today off their eight
dude, I'm not ready. I'mnot ready eight days from today. Seahawk

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training camp begins eight days from today, dude, And Dick is here with
his top seventeen things he's looking forwardto seeing at Seahawk training camp starting next
one? Did Dick looking forward tomissing day one? Looking forward to missing
it's so important you won't be here? Yeah, No, I mean I

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enjoy following the Seahawks during training camp. I am ensure talking about the Seahawks
during training I just don't particularly likeattending Seahawks training camps. So there's two
different things, right, But no, I think this one will be more
interesting than most of the last five, at least since let's just say,
since the end of the Hawk's reignof terror, right, and that you

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can say that ended like that intwenty fifteen, by the way, twenty
twelve, the twenty sixteen, therate of exactly so over the last seven
years. This is going to bethe most interesting camp because I think all
the rest of them were about thesame. Right, you looked at the
team, You're like, same coach, same quarterback. Okay, Genos here,

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Now that was kind of intriguing Genoversus Drew Locke. We're not going
to get a quarterback battle, butwe are going to We are going to
be able to see how this coachoperates, how Ryan Grubb operates. What
do the plays look significantly different inpractice than what we've seen over the last
twelve years? Yeah? Does thedoes the defensive schemes look significantly different over

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the than we've seen over the lasttwelve years. I think that's gonna be
the most interesting thing for me.Yeah, you look at the Ravens and
some of the wacky stuff they woulddo defensively, Right, Like, are
we gonna see boy Mafe playing cornerback? Are we going to see Byron Murphy
playing linebacker and dropping back into pastcoverage. We're gonna see you know,
eleven guys all standing up in theline of scrimmage at one time, so
I'm kind of with you that.You know. Look, you guys know

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me. We we cannot get throughthis fast enough. I just get to
the Bronco game. Let's go.The first preseason game, you guys realize
is three weeks from Saturday. Wow, is the first preseason game? Which
is your favorite sporting event of theyear's preseason football game. That's funny.
You love that. I'm a joke. You must have learned some jokes at
the Storm game. From Saturday.The Seahawks are at the Chargers, and

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I just best part about the threegame preseason is it's less than four and
when they go to two, it'sgreat. That'll be incredible. Just the
less preseason games I have to sitthrough. And you guys know why,
because I get so annoyed and Ireally should not let this bother me as
much as I do. It's asilly, stupid thing. I get so

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annoyed by people, and especially thosethat are on radio stations like this,
that lose their mind over guys thatcome in in the fourth quarter and light
up a ninth string defensive back.Camp super has six ring safety who will
never make the team, and theyjust they they cannot handle themselves over these

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people. It's usually a running back. Yeah, twelve carries for guy Cason
Williams, right, and I loveCaseon Williams. Who doesn't what husky fan
doesn't love case and Williams, Imean, my god. And then these
these these people, these things,I'm not even sure what they are.

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They go on social media and theytry to break this down and sound smart
and just see the freaking speed thathe showed in his first ten yards on
the burst And what are you talkingabout? He's going up against guys that
he'll never ever play against if hemakes an NFL roster ever, ever,
ever, So what are we doinghere losing our brains over these guys when

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number one, they like, theywon't even make the team anyway. If
they do, they'd be special teamguys. Number three, and they do
play, if somebody gets hurt,they'll face actual starters and not guys that
in a week from now we're sellingoranges at Costco. Drives me crazy.
Who is the defensive end? Ithink he went to People lost their mind
over heads because Nick Reid is beatingup a right tackle who now works at

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the fun Force. Seriously, hedoes. Okay, we are losing our
mind over Nick Reid turning a guythat's now mopping the floors at a movie
theater turning him into a freaking turnstile. You see where the unbelievable frustration comes
from. So I cannot wait untilthis stuff is over. How we're playing
the Broncos. I'm looking forward toJackson Smith and Jigba and seeing if he's

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taking the next step because everybody comingout and now that's I don't really know
that until the Bronco game. That'sthe other thing. You hear things like
that, You hear things like takingthe next step? Why do you know
I'm looking I'm looking forward to seeingwhat kind of linebackers we have because I
know nothing about Tyrrell Dodson and JeromeBaker. Well they both they both might

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be hurt by the way we'll see. I mean, I I don't know
anything about them. I don't knowanything about Rayshawn Jenkins. I mean,
there's three or four starters on thisteam, but I know jack squad about
right now. Well, I'm withyou on the schemes that that part I'm
with you on. And I saidthis to you a few months ago.
I'll say it again. I amalmost more excited about the coaches and the
players themselves. You know, Iwant to see what this offense looks like.

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Are we going to be going totraining camp and Milan's going to come
marching over after he's had an hour'sworth of conversations with his buddies and he's,
you know, late to the show. I cannot believe what I just
saw. What you saw Ryan Grubbdo. Nobody in the NFL is doing
that. I cannot honestly, He'salready said, and this has got me
more fired up than any comment.I'm looking to this to one thousand people

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over the last two months. Whenwhen Hugh Millin says the Seahawks head coach
is the greatest defensive mind on planetEarth right now, that's pretty cool.
Q does not do hyperbole. Idon't in his breakdowns. Maybe for DK
okay, maybe if there's a DKexemption time, Oh god, what have

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you done? What you've done?South, He's gonna get a forty five
minute call, you know what,on the drive home tonight. Give me
your phone. You take my phone, all right, Janet calls, I'll
talk to her. You can dealwith it. But I'm with you on
that, Dick. I think you'reright about that. That the that the
schemes that Ryan Grubb and and isit mcdanna or McDonald it's been so long

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Tellmay and McDonald had a defense.I'm looking forward to seeing what that looks
like because I think there's gonna bethings that we haven't seen before. I'm
very, very curious, and Iam actually anticipating with great anticipation. Okay,
wow, that's very redundant double intoI am anticipating a lot what Ryan
Grubb can do with this offense,because, let's face it, under Shane

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Waldron, they're boring as hell,right, Yes, they're boring as hell
with Shane Waldron. And let's faceit, they have a lot of the
same guys back from a year ago. Yeah, there's a couple of new
offensive linemen and that you know,hopefully will help from from a skilled player
perspective. Sharboney, Kenny Walker,d K Jackson, Tyler Lockett, Gino

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Smith. Yes, there's some newtight ends, but I don't think anybody
is well no offense back, andthey got Pharaoh Pa Brown a right,
Yeah, he's okay, but he'snot a different He's not a difference maker,
I don't think. But he's dealingwith a lot of the same stuff
that Shane Waldron just turned into sludgelast year? So what can Ryan grow
do with the same pieces? Andif he does turn it around, I

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can see Waldron saying, well,a guy had an offensive line I didn't.
Okay, fine, whatever, ButI'm really looking forward to seeing what
this offense looks like and if thereis some if there's some imagination with the
offense, if there is something thatactually tells a defense Huh, you didn't
see that coming. How often didyou say that under Shane Waldron last year
or the year before that? Whenthey went the three the three tight ends

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set, I was like, oh, this is kind of cool, but
everybody's doing that. We've seen thatbefore. He haven't seen it from them.
That's right, all right, Andnow he gets to be the guy
responsible for molding Caleb Williams into astar in Chicago. We've got a break
text them. Morning is a fourforty five John Willner of five right here
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Now back to Saftie and Dick onyour Home for the Huskies and the
Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point threeKJR FM. Yeah, buddy here on
a Tuesday after right here on ninetythree to three cage I FM, Softy
Dick Jackson. I have no ideawhy. I just kind of feel like
the day of the All Star Gameis our day to just kind of goof

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around and just act like clowns onthe air. It's like running the asylum.
Is that different than like a topic? No, but I feel like,
you know, maybe we actually putmakeup on or something today, you
know, costumes all that. Todayhas been a pretty comprehensive, complete show.
We've hit We've hit the big topicsof the day. We haven't goofed
around yet like you've hit sports eventsgoing on amprehensive. Today's comprehensive. That

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was fabulous. I mean, you'reyou're you're laughing. But look at what
we've done today. Oh my god. If training camp starting in eight days,
the anthem were showing hit a bunchoff and fall with the audio,
we're gonna hit Mariners here. Wehave. We had the Open, the
British Open, British Open earlier.Oh god, We've covered all the big

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stuff today in Seattle, very versatileface. This show is a train wreck,
all right, it's not a trainman. We made fun of a
drunk person on the air. Youmade fun of a drunk person using now
made fun of a drunks rise andI gotta tell you, man, we're
all in this together. We're drunk. Okay, Oh god, that is

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so funny. Jesu's right, comprehensiveshowing all. It's been good, so
fun, just working on two hoursleft, plenty of time, build ourselves
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turned into Petros? Wow? Thanklet's start it again. Three two one.

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I'm here in my basement with mylizards. Shut up and leave me
alone. Rody bye, Sharp Vision, Modern Lazik. Hey, Dave,
do you have to live with poorvision this summer? No you don't.
Hell no, you don't. Justgo to sharp Vision, modern lasing lens.
Do what I did, Lasik startingat four ninety five and I and
the new Evo implantable contact lens.I love you, Dick, but man,
I love Dick, but this I'mon my period? Right Oh god,

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this is where it devolves. Yes, right here, right here,
This is the exact minute where thewhole thing just goes to pot. All
right. So you remember, wasit last week when David Sampson was on
with US? So David Sampson,who's the former president of the Miami Marlins,
I believe won a championship with them. As a matter of fact,
I think that's right. May notbe true, but we'll give it to
him anyway. We know he wasthe president of the Marlins for a while.

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And Jazz Chisholm, a second basementfor Miami, is a guy that
many people, including Bob Nightingale,are reporting the Mariners have super strong interest
in him. May even be thefront runner well before the Nightingale report came
out. We asked David Sampson onthe air, Hey, what do you
make of this jazz CHISHLM guy fromthe Marlins. I'm going to give you

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a name that you don't want tosee traded to the Mariners. If they
acquire Jazz Chislm. I can onlytell you that that will be the end
of the Mariners winning the World Series. God for the good hope they really
are you kik why? I wouldjust say that you have to be very
careful to deadline. You don't wantto bring any answer to the picnic.

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You want to make sure when youbring in people that they are going to
fit both on and off the fields. And I understand the need of second
base, I do. I understandthe need for offense. I do,
but you gotta be careful what youwish for m. I mean, he'd
just be said he's a bad guy. They make that deal. We got

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to play that door song. Thisis the end, the end of the
world as we know it's it's adifferent song hurts, but that's the one
that you got when you start.That's good too. Okay, So you
had that clip. Now, maybevery easy for someone to say, well,
you know, maybe maybe Jazz.Dave Samson brought his family one day

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to a Marlin game and Chisholm wasin a bad mood and he pissed him
off and didn't sign the autographs hiskids were looking for, and blah blah
blah. This morning, Uh,what's the name of this gallery? Nina
de la Cola Christina Dela of MLBdot com was on with Chuck Him Buck
Right this morning and had this tosay about Jazz Chisholm. We are linked

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to Jazz Chisholm, Christina and prettyheavily, so doesn't mean that anything's official
on that front. But let's startwith the elephant in the room. He's
a very talented player, but doesn'thave a great reputation for being a good
clubhouse guy. Set the record straightfor us as someone that covers this team

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and this player every single day.Yeah, I think it's a multi layered
thing. Jazz is always great withus the media, and he understands,
you know, the responsibility of havingto speak whethers after winner or loss.
He knows that it's you know,it's a sport, but at the end
of the day, it's also entertainment. But I'm also sure like some players,

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maybe they don't fit the typical baseballmode, you know, in that
respect, and that could be partof it. I think he's also,
you know, twenty six, havinga developed in an organization that has had
its shares of let's say, upsand downs, not the most known for
winning, and he hasn't really hadlike superstar player to kind of be mentored

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by maybe or to kind of followhis lead. So you know, you're
not going to be liked by everyoneyou are. You know, that's just
the way it is. I think, you know, might be misunderstood,
DoD you have some more maturing todo. Sure, of course, I
think managers Schumacher has done a greatjob over you know, the last two
years, having an you've seen youknow, Jazz kind of understand his role

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with the team. And yeah,I mean, I guess that's the knock
on him that might stop him frombeing traded. But I think, you
know, if he goes to anotherorganization in a trade, whether it be
let's say, the Mariners the Yankees, like, I think him having an
opportunity to be maybe in a morestable environment would definitely help. Oh right,

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Well, I mean that she justbought. She was dancing big time.
I mean that was a polka bigtime. She had her dance and
shoes on. She was Sammy DavisJunior right there. Maryon this isn't but
than a guy and then somebody andleadership. I don't love how she started
with, well, you know it'smulti layer. Yeah, yeah, when
you start that way, or likealways a clubhouse cancer. Okay, people

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use that term a lot in sports. He's a clubhouse cancer. Now.
The one thing that she did say, and by the way, that's two
people now that have been on thisradio station last week that have basically,
in no uncertain terms that getchishm isa problem in the clubhouse in Miami.
I will though say this is shecorrect though, that maybe getting him out

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of Miami will turn him around.I mean she did say when she said
he's twenty six, I think shemeant to say that, like he's still
young. He's twenty six, he'snot twenty one. Griffy was in the
league for seven years. By thatyears, Yeah, that doesn't fly.
He's a bad guy. He's abad presidence, but he's a bad presence
in Miami. Is it possible?And the answer is yes, that he

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comes to a place like Seattle.I'm not saying Seattle is the end all
be all. I mean, ifhe goes to a place like the Yankees,
then yes, and a place likethe Dodgers, then yeah, whatever,
San Francisco giants who have history.Is it possible that he just needs
to get as far away from Miamias he can. I think that's possible.
But I think what you're also,let's say there's zero issue whatsoever.

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And Keith Law was on Yesterday Morningwith The Morning Guys. I listened to
him talk about him, and hewasn't He certainly didn't go as far as
David Samson, he didn't go asfar as Christina did, as far as
the as far as the off thefield stuff. He talked about the on
the field stuff. And his quotewas he's just an average baseball player,
That's what he said. His quotewas, he's more famous than he is.

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Good. Right, Well, he'sgot a weird name. Let's face
it. I think the name Imean, who lost his name? Jazz,
That's right, that's right, Chism. And so when you look at
this guy, he has never hadfive hundred bats in a season. He's
only had three hundred his low.His highest is four to sixty four and
that was four years three years ago. He's been a part time player the

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last two years. He's a oneor two war guy with an OPS.
Yeah, not at Team Mobile ofseven five, which is exactly what his
OPS is going to be. AtTeam Obile. It's going to be sub
seven hundred. And that's exactly whywe said yes, or this can't be
it if they just do jazz.Chisholm and Chuck brought this up yesterday.
There's got to be more because thiswill not be a real impactful deal.

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Now, it's possible he surprises peopleand shows up and kills it in Seattle,
but this is not the aircraft carrierthat you're looking for. This is
a complimentary piece. And let's faceit, the reason why you're making this
move is because Jorge Poloco has beena disaster. That's why you're making the
move, because you think bringing ina seven to twenty seven OPS guy with
a two forty nine batting average isa monster upgrade over what you're getting from

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Polanco, which is true. Okay, but he hasn't even played second this
year, but that got five atbats at second base he's been a center
fielder all season. Okay, buthe's not playing center field. Right.
We know that he can play left, though he's not playing center or right.
He's not playing third, he's notplaying shortstop, he's not playing first.
He's your second baseman. You bringhim here, he's your second basement.
How do we know the Jazz Chisholm, who's just been an average baseball

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player away from T Mobile Park,is going to be any better than Jorge
Polong. He's played Mobile Park.You don't know that he's played one hundred
and fifty five one hundred and sixtysix games at second base in his career.
He's played one hundred and eighty fivegames in center, one hundred and
eighty five games in left or right. Yes, he could be your outfielder.
I assume that he likely comes hereto be your next Bolanco. But

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why do we assume that he'll hit. There's no assumption you could bring in
you know, Peter Alonzo. Hecould be terrible here. I mean the
team chance, well, sure,but the T Mobile curse can get anybody,
can get anybody, right, SoI think that's a concern with whoever
you trade for that the guy's goingto come here and struggle. But let

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me just say this. Justin Hollanderis on with Chris Crawford tomorrow at one
o'clock. I don't know if hecan directly ask about Chisholm and if he
can answer about it, but Iwant him to bring up to Hollander.
We've heard rumors about some players thatyou guys might be looking at that have
been clubhouse issues with the teams thatare on now. How concerned are you

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with reports that you get back fromteam personnel and your scout and maybe even
media people that you trust. Howconcerned do you about what you hear regarding
how big of a problem a guyis in a clubhouse And we'll get an
answer from him. Potentially he maynot talk directly about him, but I'd

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like to hear that tomorrow one o'clock