August 15, 2024 • 37 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to the Mariners bad loss today in Detroit that led to the Tigers’ sweep, then take phone calls from frustrated M’s fans.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let me just apologize to the three fine young ladies
sitting here in the bar. They thought maybe they had
a chance to kind of relax a little bit, get
ready for the storm that Dick Fane will certainly deliver
on the podium tonight with Jed Fish at six pm
in front of the Husky Marching Band, the first I
believe Husky Marching Band event that does not feature Brad
McDavid as the director.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Since when how many years?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, my junior year, ooh was Brat's first year, so
that'd been nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's a lot thirty years, Dick, to you and me,
that's a long damn time.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So a new era for the Husky Marching Band, which
is coincidental because it's the same old era for the
Seattle Mariners. Yes, nothing has changed whatsoever with this baseball team.
As they go to Detroit, they manage.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
One hit, oh we got one damn.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hit against the Tigers, and they get swept by a
team that literally waved the white flag two weeks to
go with the deadline and isn't even trying to win.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Two of these three games they were started.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
By a reliever, and they lose all three games to
the Tigers. And look, I'm sitting here right now on
a Thursday afternoon at three oh five, nice weather. We
got a great view of Lake Washington, suns out, guns out,
the whole thing. Fifty one years old. Been doing this
now for over thirty years. A matter of fact, November
of this year is thirty years in this stupid place
for me. And I'm just I just find myself trying
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to pull off the impossible, which is to say the
same thing a different way over and over and over again.
I was telling you and Jackson off the air that,
you know, one of the things that frustrates me a
little bit about this business is it's hard to save
full shows. You know, over the course of thirty years,
you got to put stuff on real to real tape.
You got mini discs, you got dats, you got CDs,
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you got videotapes.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What out of the air it is. There would be
piles of stuff out there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But we could make a promo that would run on
this radio station with you me Ian whoever with a
rant from nineteen ninety nine, nineteen ninety two, two thousand
and four, two thousand and nine, two thousand and fourteen
two thousand, fifteen twenty twenty three, blah blah blah, and
it would be exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What you're about to hear.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So I would just say this, and this may change
in the next few minutes for me as I kind
of morph into whatever the hell I'm gonna do here.
A lot of guys in this business have these scripts,
they reach stuff off papers, and I got I'm just
shooting from the hip here. Okay, It's the way I've
always done it. People always ask me, you know, hey,
what are you talking about three o'clock?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I get no idea, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Whatever comes out of my mouth is what we'll talk about.
I mean, Jesus, that's not how I do things. Number One,
I can't even read or write, so what the hell's
a point? But I'm sitting here right now, Dick, and
I'm tired of yelling. I am tired of ranting and raving.
I'm tired of screaming and yelling. I'm tired of losing
my voice for a four hour radio show. I'm tired
of give myself a headache. I'm tired of give myself
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an ulcer. And at my age, I gotta worry about
giving myself a damn stroke. I am getting tired of
that approach. So I'm gonna say something right now that
I don't think I've ever said in thirty years on
the job at this radio station. What's it's happening right
now with this baseball team? And as an emotional fanatic,
which is what fan is short for, I reserve the
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right to change my mind anytime I damn will want meeting,
like in the next five minutes. By the way, this
team is making me want to quit on them.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
They are.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They're making me want to quit because I see these
tweets from people all the time. Dave, give it up, Softy,
give it up. It's football season. Don't waste your money.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Hey, look, I get why people feel that way, but
you know, I got a sickness. I'm a Mariner fan
of love these guys. You're always hurt by the ones
you love the most. Blah blah blah that old say
yaka eACT. This team is actually making me want to
quit on them and just give up and not give
a damn the rest of the year because they're embarrassing me.
They are embarrassing me as a baseball fan. I believe
they're embarrassing you as a baseball fan. They're embarrassing their
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fan base. They're embarrassing Jackson, They're embarrassing this radio station.
They're embarrassing their flagship. They are humiliating this market with
the way they're going about their business right now. And
like I said to Ian Furness and Cross Talk a
few minutes ago, I think Jerry Depoto has a seminal
life decision, career professional decision that he needs to make tonight.
He's fifty six years old. This is now his fourteenth
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year as a GM. I'm not going to count the
half year he got the job in Arizona when he
was the interim guy, because they let him go and
they hired somebody else. This is the fourteenth year that
Jerry Depoto has been in charge of a baseball roster.
He's fifty six years old. He's been waiting his entire
life for a rotation like this. Some gms never get
a rotation like this, some rotations, or some managers in
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gms dream about rotations like this, dream about leading the
league in era, dream about having four guys in the
back end of your rotation that are making seven million
dollars combined. So you can spend money on the offense,
which the team obviously hasn't done and never will, never
has done. But Jerry Depoto has to go home tonight,
whether he's on the road in Detroit or here at home,
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and look at himself in the mirror and say, dude,
you're fifty six years old. You've been waiting your whole
life for a moment like this. This is what you
dreamed about. It's what you've been building for, it's what
you've been working for. It's why you put the blood
swam but in tears as an assistant in at previous
stops she made with three different franchises. Are you gonna
really let this thing go status quo the rest of
the year or are you gonna give yourself every chance
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to see this thing through and get this rotation into
the playoffs? And that number one question is the manager?
I mean, look, I'm sorry, I mean, nobody can deny this.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I've told you before, I've generally been a defender of
Scott's service for the most part. But what are your
eyes tell you? Your eyes tell you that nothing's working. Your
eyes tell you they fired Brenton Brown on the thirty
first of May when they were twenty eighth and run scored.
Now they're twenty seventh. They led the league in case,
and they still leave the league in case. Nothing has changed.
Nothing has changed. So if we're gonna go on the
air on the thirty first of May and say, well,
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we know what happens next. If this doesn't work, the
manager is gonna go, And if that doesn't work, the
GM's gonna go. We're there, dude, we are there. We
are in phase two of that process. If there's a
list of people, you go down the line, this doesn't work,
Fire that guy. That doesn't work, Fire this guy. We
are now on number two and number two is the manager.
And if Jerry Depoto honestly can look this fan base
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and look me and you in the eye and go
home and tell himself Scott Servis still gives me the
best chance to get this rotation into the playoffs, then fine,
if that's what you deserve, you hit your wagon to him,
and the next month and a half will tell us
the answer and we'll find out. But if he doesn't
believe that, if Jerry Depoto has now lost faith and
goes to bed not believing that Scott's Servis can get
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him to the playoffs or gives him the best shot
to get this rotation into the playoffs. Dick, He's got
to fire him tonight. He cannot wait another day because
three games turns into six games. Two games in the
wildcard turns into five games in the wildcard. You cannot
continue to piss away the starting pitching this team is getting.
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Brian wu Yesterday, seven shutout, loses Bryce Miller today, second
time in his last five starts, he's gone seven shutout
and they've lost. George Kirby, up until the last start
against the Tigers, had a thirteen games run where he
had a two point one point seven ERA and the
Mariners were six and seven in those thirteen games overall.
Logan Gilbert seven shutout against the Angels loses six innings,
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one run, Phillies loses. How much more of this does
Jerry Depoto need to see? How many more moves does
he need to make for his manager to give him
an offense that he thinks can hit before he reaches
his limit and just says, I can't do this anymore.
I owe it to myself, my family, my fan base,
my owner. I owe it to my friends, who have
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been there with me and supported me every step of
the way. I've been busting my ass for thirty years,
twenty plus years to put this rotation together. And I
am on the cusp of getting this team into the
playoffs to let this rotation go to work.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And you're gonna piss that away.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You're gonna really hitch your wagon to the status quo
and not make a change at all, and just see
this thing through. I think either A he's being very stubborn,
he's being very pigheaded. See he's just not seeing things clearly.
Or D he knows something we don't know, which is
totally possible. I'm not behind the clones doors, neither of you.
I got no idea.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But this is this is a critical point, dude.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And here's the reason why I think people are begging
for a change, because through all of this crap that
we've seen this year, with this offense and all the
crap that we saw this week in Detroit. It's eighth
it's August fifteenth, it's three fifteen in the afternoon, and
I still believe this baseball team can make the World Series.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I still believe that today.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But you cannot continue down this same path if you
want to see that become a reality.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So again, in the end, this is on Jerry.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I'm assuming, Dick that John Stanton's gonna let Jerry make
that call about the manager, right, I assume that's the deal.
And if Jerry Depoto goes home tonight and looks at
himself in the mirror and says, I've seen enough.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We have an opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We have a winning Powerball ticket, and the way to
cash in is to make the playoffs. I do not
believe that Scott Servis is the guy to get us there.
If he doesn't believe that, if he's lost faith, he's
got to make a move now now, now, Now he
flies back to Seattle, Chris Lagron maniac to whoever take
over they manage the team starting tomorrow in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But if he.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Believes that, if Jerry Depoto believes that he's got the
right guy to see this through and get this gem
of a rotation, that's once in a lifetime rotation for
at least us. And I'm fifty years old, as are
you fifty one. Now imagine being eighty five and never
having seen this before in your life, and it's finally here,
and you're not taking advantage of it because your offense
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is an embarrassment. If he doesn't believe it, he's got
to make a move. If he does, then he is
hitching his wagon to him. And if this doesn't work,
I think he clean house. He clean house. Everybody goes
the whole thing done, blow it up, gone, audios done, finished,
because that is where.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
We are at. This is a opportunity of a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know I've made that stupid Rocky reference before Dick
when he gets the chance to fight Apollo, Creed, Jerry Depoto,
this is squarely now on him. He cannot let this
opportunity pass him by. He cannot let this opportunity pass
him by for himself. He cannot let this opportunity pass
the fans, by his ownership, by the people that work
in that organization, that bust their ass, that have taken
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you know, shots after shot after shot after shot from
people like me and you and fans for twenty plus years.
He owes it to everybody to give this rotation the
best possible shot to make the postseason.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And you know what he owes it to me. He
owes it to me. God darn it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He owes it to you, and he owes it to
me and everybody listening right now, because we have stayed.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
We have stayed through.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Thick and thin, and in the words of Kevin Costner,
we built you the stupid stadium.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We cut down the corn. What's in it for us?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And if you're not gonna give us every chance to
see this rotation in the playoffs, then why are you
doing this? And what's in it for us? And what
do we owe you? So this is squarely now on him.
It's on him. What decision does he make tonight, Dick?
What decision does he come to tonight when he goes
home and looks at himself in the eye in the mirror,
when he talks to his wife, he prays to his God,
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what does he think if it's time to go, cut bait,
forget it, move on, And if he wants to stick
with a guy, then I think they're both attached to
the same wagon.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And if it doesn't work, you blow the whole thing
to Kingdom. Come, well, we know the decision he's gonna make.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He and make no decision. I like it, absolutely flabbergasted
if he fired Scott Service today. But I agree with
you on many fronts. I think this team absolutely can
make the playoffs. I won't go so far as you
did to say that they can make the World Series
because that would be historically unprecedented for a team that
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is this anemic and half of the team to make
a World Series. Could they win a playoff series, Yeah,
maybe they can squeeze out a playoff series where they
win three games, like two to one. It's potential. I
don't think they can win multiple playoff series. But this
manager had the audacity to go on television today after
this game and say, we didn't get the breaks.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They had one hit. Yea, what breaks?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You're talking about a cal Rawly hot shot the first
base with a couple guys on. Okay, one hot shot
that got caught. That's not the breaks. That's we didn't
get a break. He had the audacity to open the
postgame show by chuckling and saying this game was like
a bad movie. Well, Scott, you're the director of the movie.
You're the director of this bad movie. You're the one
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making pitching decisions late that seemingly not Hindsight being twenty
twenty by Mariner fans.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Foresight being twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'm reading Twitter as Scott's making these decisions time and
time again. Guin, why is he doing this here? Why
is he doing that here? And then it all goes
up in flames that can happen every now and then,
and it happens to every single manager now and then.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, it's it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Seems like it happens more and more frequently with this
baseball team because this baseball team has zero margin for eric.
And you know what, we've seen this movie before. It's
called except in reverse. Let me read you, Dave, the
ops of the nineteen ninety six Seattle Mariners, and I'll
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tell you why I'm bringing this as a comparison. Edgar
Martinez one point oh five to nine, Alex Rodriguez one
point oh four to five, Ken Griffy Junior one point
oh two zero, Jay Buner nine to twenty six, Paul
Sorrento eight seventy eight, Dan Wilson seven to seventy four.
Every one of those guys will be the number one
hitter on this baseball team. I know Ara has changed
a little bit, but every single one of those guys
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would have the number one ops on this baseball dam
Why do I bring this up because the nineteen ninety
six Mariners Dave went eighty five wins, second place, missed
the playoffs, They wasted Edgar a Rod Griffy and and
this team is wasting Kirby, Gilbert Miller, Castillo and Munios
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and they're gonna end up exactly where the nineteen ninety
six Mariners did.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Did you say woo? Because he who by unbelievable his
last five six guys he's been six guys are carrying
this baseball.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I just think again, I think that there's a common
theme through all that that it's it's not gonna matter today,
but eventually, I think I'd like to see an ownership change.
I mean we've been begging for that for years. I mean,
all the money in this place, the fact that we
can't get a Bomber or a Bezos or a Bill
Gates to buy this baseball team and just spend gobs
of money. And you know what, look, even if it's
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not gobs of money, can just spend two fifty like
the Astros and Rangers do, for God's sakes and be
right there. So you know, it's like when I was
begging Paul Allen to sell the Seahawks and buy the Mariner.
Paul Allen would have been a better fit for the
Mariners because of a little salary cash and he was
sensational as an owner. So the common theme is the
DNA of the own ship group that goes back to
the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean Howard Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Obviously in the John Stanton Company, the DNA is the same.
The names of public facing names may change, but the
group itself, the DNA is the same, so nothing will
change long term. Maybe eventually they could stumble into when
when Tom Benson, the owner of the Saints, was looked
at as a huge boob with a stupid umbrella and
he finds a way to get Drew Brees and he wins.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Everybody can stumble into something that's right. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
In forty eight years, the Mariners haven't even stumbled into it.
I mean, they can't even just you know, just fall
into a world series. And this is pitching wise, their
best chance to do it. And I mean I disagree
with you. You know, I realized it's on precidented, you know,
with how bad their offense is. But you're talking about
just having to win a series and just play good
for a week and then play good for another week. Right,
I mean it's not impossible. Dbacks won eighty eight games.
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They made the damn World Series a year ago, so
it can happen. Just get in the tournament. If there's
any tournament out there where a team like the Mariners
would have a shot, it's baseball.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, what I bet on him?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But I want the shot. I want the shot, and
then Jerry Depoto wants the shot. Jerry to Poto did
not build this rotation to win eighty five games.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He built this rotation to win a title. That's why.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's why to win a championship in Seattle. And you
know people are texting you what good would do to
fire Scott's?
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What good did it do to fire Brent Brown?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I mean you're trying to shake things up. You're looking
for the emotional edge, the emotional reaction. Why do you
think you whacked Ty France to put guys on high alert?
That didn't help either, Right, that was two weeks ago
or whatever it was. So all these moves are made,
the Astros cutting guys right and left. That make tens
of millions of dollars by the way to send messages
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inside their clubhouse that these performances won't be tolerated and
if you don't perform, doesn't matter how much money you're making,
you're done. And they did that twice with two different guys,
by the way, So I just think getting rid of
a manager in the end, it's not going to change
the lineup. It will not change the roster, but will
wake this thing up? Will let shake this thing up?
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They tried it twice with Brent Brown and Ty France
and neither move has made. Are they willing to make
a third with the coaching staff or are they now
going to just ride this thing out, drop to their
hands and knees and pray for the best. And if
that's your best chance, if you believe that's your best chance, great,
you're a job on the line, not mine. You're the
pro I'm not. But if you believe that's your best chance,
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then go for it. But I believe that if you
do that, you are squarely putting yourself under the cleag
lights by the end of the year if it doesn't work. Man,
So look, I'm just again tired of yelling and screaming.
This has been thirty years of this now for me,
save four or five different seasons, I am so tired
of going on the air and screaming and losing my voice.
And they're making me not give a damn. Maybe it's
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because I'm fifty one years old and not twenty one
years old anymore, but they're making me not give a damn,
and they're embarrassing me. They are embarrassing me as a
fan because look, players obviously talk to each other. They
jawed each other. We're seeing that now in these joint
practices in Tennessee. But did they not realize that we
do too? You know, we wear this stuff on our chest.
We wear our pride on our sleeve. We wear the
emblem of the baseball team and go out and stick
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our chests out when things are going well, then sometimes
hide when they're going bad.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
But we talk too. We get into it with fans,
We have debates, and they're they're embarrassing us. They're embarrassing
all of us with the way they're playing.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So look, you can thank me because either A they're
gonna fire the guy or B they're about to go
on a big run. Because the last time I called
for a manager to be fired two years later, they
won one hundred and sixteen games and went to the ALCS.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So, by the way, we're a winner. Here's what we're
gonna do. We're gonna grab some calls here, guys. Can
we do that?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Jackson two eight six, ninety five, ninety five or eight
hundred eighty two nine or ninety five?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think we just kind of go old school for
a little bit. We've got a bunch of talkbacks I
know on the app to potentially play as well. But
I want to talk to you guys. Dick wants to
talk to you, guys. I want to hear everything that's
going on out there. You give us a buzz, and
you tell us, man, you you vent your spleen.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You get it out here.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Don't go home and take this out in your kids,
don't take it out on your wife, take it out
on us. Two eight six, ninety five, ninety five. Give
us a buzz. Let's get your phone calls and get
your thoughts on this. Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Sofie and Dick Gone your Home for the
Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ R FM. We have a bad movie.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Funt like, you know, they played better thanas they got
the hits, shut us down offensively, you don't get much going.
That's what's gonna happen here in a three game series.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Uh, that's the voice of Scott service your manager, the
director of the bad the director of.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The bad movie.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, look, obviously we're gonna not be happy. We're
gonna be disgusted with whatever we hear right from the
skipper John Stanton speaks. You'll be disgusted by that Depoto speaks.
You'll be disgusted by that. You know, maybe they are
just better off stay and silent, you know, because it
doesn't do him any good. But you know, I just
think that Scott's Servis has kind of made his bed
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with just his reaction to all this stuff. You know,
he's snarky, he's a little arrogant, you know, sometimes a
little stubborn, kind of talks down to the fan base.
I think you've been observing that in the last couple
of years and the media, and you know, I just
kind of compare and contrast that to what Lupanella was
all about.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And look, I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Panella had won a World Series right before he came
to Seattle, played in New York with the Yankees. Was
a totally different personality and had a different resume than
Scott's Service does. But Lou Panella, the minute he showed
up here, it was obvious that he was creating a
line between him and the management. Right, he'd be the
one to rip him for not giving him a back.
He'd be the one to say, go rip the players,
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talk to them, don't talk to me. Scott hasn't been
that way, and it's hard after nine years to all
of a sudden morph into that guy.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You can't do it well.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I would just ask why is Scott servis the second
longest tenured manager in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Because they created a scenario where they lost on purpose
and they got to reset the clock. That's why, That's why, why,
that's why Jerry's here.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
How many teams have done that, other teams have rebuilt
and reset the clock, and they still fire their managers
every three or four years.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
How many GMS and baseball get to be on the
job for nine years with one playoff series win? I mean, honestly,
I mean same same question for him that you can
ask for Scott.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
All right, let's go to the phone lines. Hey, let's
tack some phone calls.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Two eight six ninety five ninety five, Rich boy on
the cell phone. Let's go to Alex in West Seattle.
You're on the Softy and Dick with Jackson at stravig Enza.
How are you Alex?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
And good? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Guys. I
got just one question in kind of a comment. I
don't think that I'm upset, just like a lot of
fans are. But is there any surprise here when a
team is, you know, doing bargain basement moves here and
I don't My question would be twofold. Is it Depoto
doesn't have a budget because of ownership or is it
just him being thrifty? And then the second thing is
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more of an in game managerial managerial question about service.
You know, pulling a guy like Woo out after eighty
five pitches and seven innings. I know he started some
games this year, but again I don't know that pulling
a guy that's rolling in the seventh inning with eighty
four pitches, so that's on service. So I would say
I agree with what you guys are saying he needs
to go.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah. I just think it's on Depoto too.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I think Dick and I have had this conversation, Alex,
and thanks for the call that this is an organizational philosophy.
It is because this is now nine years in and
they do the same thing. Okay, this idea that you
know what, we know what we're doing, you don't, Well,
it hasn't really worked, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean, now the bullpen's blowing games.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You know, Bryce Miller was unbelievable today in Detroit, and
he's been, as you pointed out last night lately, really
good on the road, where for a while he was
not good on the road and he got pulled with
ninety pitches. I mean, can you put him out there
in the eighth and see if you can get a
couple of quick outs? Why did you take him out?
Why'd you take Brian wou out? Because these guys are
treated like China dolls. They're treated like babies, they really are.
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And you know what, for the most part from a
health perspective, it's worked. But now you don't have an
offense that can score, and now you don't have a
bullpen that can protect leads. The best thing you've got
is your rotation. You have to carry that. You have
to let those horses run. As Brett Boone said a
week ago, and I'm sure we'll say again today, every
game should be managed like it's a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And he didn't manage yesterday's game like a playoff game.
He didn't, particularly on the offensive end, he didn't move,
he didn't move a runner over. I threw out a
tweet today and I'll break down the numbers for you. Offensively,
you would think that the worst offensive team in baseball,
arguably the Seattle Mariners, would spend more of an emphasis
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sacrificing guys over trying to manufacture runs. Instead, they are
last in baseball in sacrifice flies plus bunths. They have
twenty four on the season. Yeah, that is twenty three
percent lower than any other team in Major League Baseball.
So don't tell me that this is well, this is
just the way it is in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You don't move guys over.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
In twenty twenty four. No, no, no, no no, the Mariners
don't move guys over in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Not major League baseball. Yeah, well, you just ask Jerry.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Why they don't do that, because again, if Jerry wanted
things done differently, things would be done differently, and they're
not being done differently. Let's go to Joe Jackson, Joe
and Bothel you're on the air, Joe, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Man Bellas, thanks for taking my call. Jackson told me
not to swear, and I got to be honest with you.
I'm sixty two. I've been dealing with this on this
end of the phone for years. I haven't called in
for a long time, and I, when I was reaching
for the phone, pardon me, wanted the phone to be busy,
right because I'm thinking what am I gonna say? First
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of all, just pretend like I'm screaming right now. Just
I'm screaming my lungs out, but I'm not gonna do
it because I don't want to die driving my car.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But what I do have to say is this is
like a girl that.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
You've in your life, you've really worked hard for, and
then you wake up and you have that moment of
clarity and you go, she doesn't like me, she doesn't
she doesn't like me. In this ownership group, they don't
like they don't like me. They don't like me, and
so I'm like dead inside. You know, I'm football season's
coming up, right, so once again we get the fast
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forward through. I mean, this town, like you said, and
I'm getting fired up. This town, like you said, would
go absolutely ape blank if this team did anything at all.
So I don't even have words anymore other than what
you so eloquently both of you throw down on a
regular basis, And I gotta tell you and I'm gonna
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get off, but thank you guys for giving us an outlet,
because I'm sure there's tons of dudes and women driving
around right now that are just like, I don't even know.
I don't even know what to say. So I love
you guys. Go dogs.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, I appreciate man.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, just imagine being us trying to reinvent the
wheel every damn year. I mean, it's it's it's tiresome
having to you know, just kind of think of a
different way to say the same freaking thing. And I
agree with you about the ownership and the passion in
this town, and I just I just wish that the
ownership had the same amount of passion as the fans do,
because for this fan base to be consistently at minimum
in the middle of the pack attendance wise, Dick for
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a team that has never made the World Series is
a testament to us, because if you woke up one
day in an alternate universe and you saw the Marina
fan base dead last in baseball, you'd say, oh, that
makes sense. They've never been there. It's been fifty years,
they've never made the World Series. Of course their fans
are pissed. No, we have given them everything, and they
owe us everything because they've given us nothing. Let's get
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a couple of quick ones, Dick Nelson's and Kent Nelson.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
You're on the air, Hey, Toty Vick, I like to
open up the phone. I just want to say, and
this is not me being a prisoner of the moment
because I'm mad.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
We have bad owners. That's not new.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
But there are teams that have won with bad owners.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You have the Guardians, you.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
Have the Royals, you have the Brewers, all doing better,
all doing what Jerry wants to do, better than Jerry
wants to do it with thirty to forty million less dollars.
This is the same Jerry to Poto, who I'm not
even going to count Mitch Hanniger's salary because that was
a wash with Robbie Ray trading that contract. He paid Polanco, Garter,
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furious Stanic, and he chose to bring France back at
seven million bucks. He paid all of them forty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Instead of just going and getting one really good player
or two good players, he gave all that pile of
junk forty million. This is a guy whose best team statistically,
and I've looked this up because I'm a big anti
Jerry guy. This is a guy whose best team was
two thousand and sixteen. They were eighth and ops, sixth
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in runs, six Anthon Era in every move he made
that offseason, trading Freddy Peralta for Adam Lanz, signing Wade Miley,
trading Lomo and Brad Miller for Nate Carnes, who was
a bum. He has been a bum his whole career.
He's the worst GM in baseball. I congress he can
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draft players that have value, But did he use those
players to go out at the deadline. No, he's thrown
out excuses at all. You know, no other team wanted
to trade any of their guys.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
You didn't try.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
You even went on the radio and said you didn't
really try after you got Turner.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
This is who he is. He tried. He thinks he's
better than anybody.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
And you were talking about arrogance from Scott, and he
is arrogant, but that comes from Jerry.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
Jerry is the issue.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
I am so sick of it. I'm so tired of
people blaming Scott when he's he's gotten eighty eight to
ninety wins out of a roster that, quite frankly, is
a five hundred roster. It's great pitching, it's bottom of
the barrel hitting, and it's been that way since twenty sixteen.
He thinks he can play chess and he sucks, all right?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Love it, love it. I love the passion.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, I mean again, the Mariner ownership group, Mariner management team,
they should be thrilled that people have this amount of
passion because I tell you what, you would think that
by this point in time, Dick and we'll take some
more calls next segment, there'd be a lot of apathy
creeping in. There ain't no apathy right now. I mean,
it's the exact opposite of that. So hold that thought.
We'll get to tell you get a take from Dick Jackson,
You'll jump into more phone calls.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Fill him up.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Two eight six ninety five, ninety five Mariners managed one
hit today against the Tigers and get swept. They get
swept by the deet Tigers and are now three games
out of first place. Your phone calls Brett Boone at
four coming up on ninety three three.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
kJ RFM, Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist
broadcast studio. Now back to Sofie and Dick Gone your
home for the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
We gotta get on base. You gotta have good at bats.
You gotta keep grinding it out. We did it some
ball decent today. You know, cal Line's out forst and third.
Now there, you're not getting a whole lot of breaks either. Yeah,
they have to, you know, be honest with that.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
All right, the voice of Mariner manager Scott's service after
the m has just laid a complete third in Detroit
today against the Tigers andres Munnos and look bad pitch
selection by him to Baya is no question about that.
Just you know, hung a breaking ball right over the
edge of the plate and bang he pushed it into
the outfield stands for a home run. But there's no
margin for error, right, I mean, everything is hard, everything
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is a pain in the ass for this baseball team,
and you make one mistake as a starting pitcher or
reliever and it ends up being a loss.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I know what I thought. As soon as Root Sports
put the graphic up that Andre's Munos was one inning
away from having the longest streak of scoreless innings for
a reliever through twenty twenty two, Jenks, I was a
little bit worried about that. I just, you know, I
was just thinking about what the the last callers said,
Greg Nelson, great call by Nelson and Cannon. How he
kind of compared it to that girl that doesn't really
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like yet. It's like we bend over backwards for this team.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
We bend I.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Remember sitting here, You and I were sitting here in
this stadium watching a championship caliber National championship caliber football
team play Arizona, and we couldn't give a damn because
the Mariners and the Astros were going to extra innings.
I was down there on that field, the practice field,
where they had a huge screen set up, and I
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was watching the baseball game instead of a live football
game right in front of me with a team that
would end up playing for the national championship. That's how
this team has us wrapped around on their little finger,
and how we give so much more to them than
they do.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I was on the air during halftime when Mitch Haniger
was at the plate in the ninth inning and looking
up watching Mitch, and I still have no idea what
the hell I was even talking about. I was on
the air when Kyle Rowley hit the home run against
the A's during halftime at the UCLA game, and the
whole place Jackson went bananas unbelievable.
Speaker 11 (31:18):
To Dick's point, I'm really clear. I know we want
to get a couple more calls in. Yeah, I just
wanted to quickly say, because last segment of SOFTI, you
said then the fact we felt the passion from Nelson
and you know, to Dick to your point right there,
the the interest and how much they have is I
gotta be honest, SOFTI, I'll disagree. I'm I'm feeling the
apathy like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It is now.
Speaker 11 (31:37):
I didn't really notice it until today, but really today
I'm just sort of like, yep, okay, yep, this is
this is just what we experienced and it's not. It's
I'm over frustration. I'm over the anger and the sadness.
Today I just felt apathy, like whatever, this baseball.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Team just continuously.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
I'm thirty two years old, and I really, for the
my time as a Mariner fan, I've seen one great
moment in the mental moment of being at the stadium,
and that's a couple of years ago, cal Rawley's home run.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Other than that, I got nothing.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
And if they go five and one, Jackson, if they
go five and one and Houston goes three and three
over the next six games, which is absolutely possible, are
you still gonna be apathetic? There?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
A half game out of Let me answer the question
for you, Jackson. Can I speak for you and you're me?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Because what he'll do then he'll check back in you,
check back on what he wants.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Because that's what fans do. Fans can do whatever they
damn well, well.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
You can have momentary apathy, and right now I have
momentary apathy.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And this baseball team has driven us to that.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
They they we we owe them nothing, nothing And if
we want to check out for a week or check
out for a couple of games and be pissed off
and say that we're quitting and that we're being apathetic.
You god darn right, we've earned that right to do
that as fans forget it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
He wants to check out, he can check out. Man.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm so tired of people getting on fans for being
pissed off. Well you're gonna want to come back, Well, okay,
then you know we'll come back. If it ever happens,
we'll come back. But for now, people are pissed. Let
people be pissed. The Mariners should be thanking their freaking
stars and on their hands and knees.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
That were pissed and not apathetic.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
We've devoted the first hour of this radio show to
a baseball team that was an embarrassment for three days
in Detroit. That's what we've done, all right, Josh and Olympia.
Josh here on the air. Go ahead, man, how are
you buddy here?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 12 (33:24):
So he was absolutely correct talking about relationships like this team.
This is an abusive relationship that we're in with.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
These guys, and it's completely.
Speaker 12 (33:33):
Maddening and frustrating when you hear.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Dylan morg on MLB Network and.
Speaker 12 (33:38):
They ask him his hitting philosophy, and he basically said,
I'm getting the bad head out front.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
I'm trying to.
Speaker 12 (33:44):
Get ahead of the fastball. And they say, can you
expand on that a little bit. He's like, nope, I'm
just trying to get the fastball. And that is their philosophy.
You know, in business, things should fail quickly. You should
try it, let it go on its own merit, and
if it doesn't, move on. But Scott, you know, getting
back to Dick saying nineteen ninety six, I started listening
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to your program in nineteen ninety six, and we don't
have to go loop Panella saying, you know, throw bleeping strikes.
But you know, Scott's way of letting people do what
they want is not working, and it's proven it. You know,
Justin Turner comes up the other day, fights the ball
off the other way.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Gets a base hit.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Everyone's like, oh my god, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Right, He's just hit with two strikes. You know.
Speaker 12 (34:28):
Meanwhile the second base is playing two feet off second
base and Dylan Moore and I'm not trying to pick
on him, this is just the microcosm of things. Dylan
Moore hits the ball right up to the middle. The
second baseman doesn't even move. He grabs it, steps to
the right, and it's a double play. The whole right
side's open. If Scott's Service really wanted to have this
team be successful, he stopped being a mouthpiece for Jerry,
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he'd have the courage to challenge his guys privately as
men and say, you guys need to put in it
back together. And that doesn't mean get the bat head
out situationally, sacrifice yourself for this team and good things
will happen.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He doesn't have it in him. He doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
He doesn't He doesn't have it in him. He doesn't
have it in him. He doesn't have the resume, he
doesn't have the confidence. He hasn't built up the success
that a guy like Lou Panela or a Joe Madden
or whoever, name any manager in baseball that's had success.
You can't have that kind of confidence before you have success.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
He doesn't have it in him.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
And you saw it last year when he got pissed
off at cal Raley for speaking his mind. Okay, that's
when you knew that Scott Servis and Jerry Depoto were
tied at the hip, Because what manager would go off
on their catcher for being emotional after the team made
the playoffs. It should be or missed the playoffs, it
should be the exact opposite. I would say, that's the
kind of passion I want in a leader. That's why
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we love cal Raley right there, And none of that
was Instead he told him to calm down.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know, you let your emotions get the best of you.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I thought he sounded like a chump last year, and
I said that at the time.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I said that at all.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm furious when he was going after cal Rowley. Luke
Panella never would have said that ever. He would have
loved that from his catcher. And we got guys that
are passionate and they're speaking their mind, and they're frustrated
and angry, and instead of saying, hell, yeah, we need
more of that, we're telling them to watch their emotions.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But by god, But back to the caller's point, when
is the last time you watched a game and said, Wow,
that was a good out right there by the Mariners,
Well done, that was a good piece of hitting where
it ended up being an out, I can't remember, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Can we sneak in one more. Let's do it all right,
Let's go to Gary and seeattle. Gary, you're on the air, Gary,
give us about a minute. Gary, we're late for a
break man.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
Go ahead, guys, thanks so much for taking a call.
A fan of the show, except as an Oregon Death
fan all my life, there's a few times I'm mumbling
curse words under my breath that you thought me, but
you hit that, you hit the nail on the head. Today,
after last night, I'm like, Okay, I'm done, and they're done.
They're done. They're not going to catch the Astros. And
then I get on the get on this drive today
and hear you speaking my mind. So as a former
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baseball player and played some minor league ball, I can
appreciate creative creativeness and some and you know, some strategic baseball.
And they're not playing it. If I had a nickel
for every time they had first and second with nobody
out and they pop up, pop up strikeout instead of
a bunch or hitting somebody over, they just cannot do it.
So this, Hey, the Seahawks changer coaching staff, we think
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the Mariners can do.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Great call. You know, it's funny. We've been sitting here
for an hour. And there's one thing we haven't even mentioned,
one big talking point. We haven't even mentioned Dick, and
that is what they held. Have they just do to
Julio Rodriguez. We haven't mentioned that either. Oh you're right,
who had to leave the game yesterday and sat out
today because he reads it reinjured his foot. Well we
all knew they rushed him back too fast and bingo,
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he's hurt again.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Unbelievable. Man, Wait talk to Boonie about Oh yeah, that's
coming next.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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Go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Let me just apologize to the three fine young ladies
sitting here in the bar. They thought maybe they had
a chance to kind of relax a little bit, get
ready for the storm that Dick Fane will certainly deliver
on the podium tonight with Jed Fish at six pm
in front of the Husky Marching Band, the first I
believe Husky Marching Band event that does not feature Brad
McDavid as the director.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Since when how many years?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, my junior year, ooh was Brat's first year, so
that'd been nineteen ninety four.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's a lot thirty years, Dick, to you and me,
that's a long damn time.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Man.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So a new era for the Husky Marching Band, which
is coincidental because it's the same old era for the
Seattle Mariners. Yes, nothing has changed whatsoever with this baseball team.
As they go to Detroit, they manage.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
One hit, oh we got one damn.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hit against the Tigers, and they get swept by a
team that literally waved the white flag two weeks to
go with the deadline and isn't even trying to win.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Two of these three games they were started.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
By a reliever, and they lose all three games to
the Tigers. And look, I'm sitting here right now on
a Thursday afternoon at three oh five, nice weather. We
got a great view of Lake Washington, suns out, guns out,
the whole thing. Fifty one years old. Been doing this
now for over thirty years. A matter of fact, November
of this year is thirty years in this stupid place
for me. And I'm just I just find myself trying
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to pull off the impossible, which is to say the
same thing a different way over and over and over again.
I was telling you and Jackson off the air that,
you know, one of the things that frustrates me a
little bit about this business is it's hard to save
full shows. You know, over the course of thirty years,
you got to put stuff on real to real tape.
You got mini discs, you got dats, you got CDs,
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you got videotapes.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
What out of the air it is. There would be
piles of stuff out there.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But we could make a promo that would run on
this radio station with you me Ian whoever with a
rant from nineteen ninety nine, nineteen ninety two, two thousand
and four, two thousand and nine, two thousand and fourteen
two thousand, fifteen twenty twenty three, blah blah blah, and
it would be exactly.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
What you're about to hear.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
So I would just say this, and this may change
in the next few minutes for me as I kind
of morph into whatever the hell I'm gonna do here.
A lot of guys in this business have these scripts,
they reach stuff off papers, and I got I'm just
shooting from the hip here. Okay, It's the way I've
always done it. People always ask me, you know, hey,
what are you talking about three o'clock?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I get no idea, dude.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Whatever comes out of my mouth is what we'll talk about.
I mean, Jesus, that's not how I do things. Number One,
I can't even read or write, so what the hell's
a point? But I'm sitting here right now, Dick, and
I'm tired of yelling. I am tired of ranting and raving.
I'm tired of screaming and yelling. I'm tired of losing
my voice for a four hour radio show. I'm tired
of give myself a headache. I'm tired of give myself
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an ulcer. And at my age, I gotta worry about
giving myself a damn stroke. I am getting tired of
that approach. So I'm gonna say something right now that
I don't think I've ever said in thirty years on
the job at this radio station. What's it's happening right
now with this baseball team? And as an emotional fanatic,
which is what fan is short for, I reserve the
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right to change my mind anytime I damn will want meeting,
like in the next five minutes. By the way, this
team is making me want to quit on them.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
They are.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
They're making me want to quit because I see these
tweets from people all the time. Dave, give it up, Softy,
give it up. It's football season. Don't waste your money.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
You know.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
Hey, look, I get why people feel that way, but
you know, I got a sickness. I'm a Mariner fan
of love these guys. You're always hurt by the ones
you love the most. Blah blah blah that old say
yaka eACT. This team is actually making me want to
quit on them and just give up and not give
a damn the rest of the year because they're embarrassing me.
They are embarrassing me as a baseball fan. I believe
they're embarrassing you as a baseball fan. They're embarrassing their
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fan base. They're embarrassing Jackson, They're embarrassing this radio station.
They're embarrassing their flagship. They are humiliating this market with
the way they're going about their business right now. And
like I said to Ian Furness and Cross Talk a
few minutes ago, I think Jerry Depoto has a seminal
life decision, career professional decision that he needs to make tonight.
He's fifty six years old. This is now his fourteenth
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year as a GM. I'm not going to count the
half year he got the job in Arizona when he
was the interim guy, because they let him go and
they hired somebody else. This is the fourteenth year that
Jerry Depoto has been in charge of a baseball roster.
He's fifty six years old. He's been waiting his entire
life for a rotation like this. Some gms never get
a rotation like this, some rotations, or some managers in
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gms dream about rotations like this, dream about leading the
league in era, dream about having four guys in the
back end of your rotation that are making seven million
dollars combined. So you can spend money on the offense,
which the team obviously hasn't done and never will, never
has done. But Jerry Depoto has to go home tonight,
whether he's on the road in Detroit or here at home,
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and look at himself in the mirror and say, dude,
you're fifty six years old. You've been waiting your whole
life for a moment like this. This is what you
dreamed about. It's what you've been building for, it's what
you've been working for. It's why you put the blood
swam but in tears as an assistant in at previous
stops she made with three different franchises. Are you gonna
really let this thing go status quo the rest of
the year or are you gonna give yourself every chance
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to see this thing through and get this rotation into
the playoffs? And that number one question is the manager?
I mean, look, I'm sorry, I mean, nobody can deny this.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Now.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
I've told you before, I've generally been a defender of
Scott's service for the most part. But what are your
eyes tell you? Your eyes tell you that nothing's working. Your
eyes tell you they fired Brenton Brown on the thirty
first of May when they were twenty eighth and run scored.
Now they're twenty seventh. They led the league in case,
and they still leave the league in case. Nothing has changed.
Nothing has changed. So if we're gonna go on the
air on the thirty first of May and say, well,
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we know what happens next. If this doesn't work, the
manager is gonna go, And if that doesn't work, the
GM's gonna go. We're there, dude, we are there. We
are in phase two of that process. If there's a
list of people, you go down the line, this doesn't work,
Fire that guy. That doesn't work, Fire this guy. We
are now on number two and number two is the manager.
And if Jerry Depoto honestly can look this fan base
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and look me and you in the eye and go
home and tell himself Scott Servis still gives me the
best chance to get this rotation into the playoffs, then fine,
if that's what you deserve, you hit your wagon to him,
and the next month and a half will tell us
the answer and we'll find out. But if he doesn't
believe that, if Jerry Depoto has now lost faith and
goes to bed not believing that Scott's Servis can get
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him to the playoffs or gives him the best shot
to get this rotation into the playoffs. Dick, He's got
to fire him tonight. He cannot wait another day because
three games turns into six games. Two games in the
wildcard turns into five games in the wildcard. You cannot
continue to piss away the starting pitching this team is getting.
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Brian wu Yesterday, seven shutout, loses Bryce Miller today, second
time in his last five starts, he's gone seven shutout
and they've lost. George Kirby, up until the last start
against the Tigers, had a thirteen games run where he
had a two point one point seven ERA and the
Mariners were six and seven in those thirteen games overall.
Logan Gilbert seven shutout against the Angels loses six innings,
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one run, Phillies loses. How much more of this does
Jerry Depoto need to see? How many more moves does
he need to make for his manager to give him
an offense that he thinks can hit before he reaches
his limit and just says, I can't do this anymore.
I owe it to myself, my family, my fan base,
my owner. I owe it to my friends, who have
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been there with me and supported me every step of
the way. I've been busting my ass for thirty years,
twenty plus years to put this rotation together. And I
am on the cusp of getting this team into the
playoffs to let this rotation go to work.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
And you're gonna piss that away.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
You're gonna really hitch your wagon to the status quo
and not make a change at all, and just see
this thing through. I think either A he's being very stubborn,
he's being very pigheaded. See he's just not seeing things clearly.
Or D he knows something we don't know, which is
totally possible. I'm not behind the clones doors, neither of you.
I got no idea.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
But this is this is a critical point, dude.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And here's the reason why I think people are begging
for a change, because through all of this crap that
we've seen this year, with this offense and all the
crap that we saw this week in Detroit. It's eighth
it's August fifteenth, it's three fifteen in the afternoon, and
I still believe this baseball team can make the World Series.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I still believe that today.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
But you cannot continue down this same path if you
want to see that become a reality.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
So again, in the end, this is on Jerry.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I'm assuming, Dick that John Stanton's gonna let Jerry make
that call about the manager, right, I assume that's the deal.
And if Jerry Depoto goes home tonight and looks at
himself in the mirror and says, I've seen enough.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
We have an opportunity here.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
We have a winning Powerball ticket, and the way to
cash in is to make the playoffs. I do not
believe that Scott Servis is the guy to get us there.
If he doesn't believe that, if he's lost faith, he's
got to make a move now now, now, Now he
flies back to Seattle, Chris Lagron maniac to whoever take
over they manage the team starting tomorrow in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But if he.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Believes that, if Jerry Depoto believes that he's got the
right guy to see this through and get this gem
of a rotation, that's once in a lifetime rotation for
at least us. And I'm fifty years old, as are
you fifty one. Now imagine being eighty five and never
having seen this before in your life, and it's finally here,
and you're not taking advantage of it because your offense
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is an embarrassment. If he doesn't believe it, he's got
to make a move. If he does, then he is
hitching his wagon to him. And if this doesn't work,
I think he clean house. He clean house. Everybody goes
the whole thing done, blow it up, gone, audios done, finished,
because that is where.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
We are at. This is a opportunity of a lifetime.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
I know I've made that stupid Rocky reference before Dick
when he gets the chance to fight Apollo, Creed, Jerry Depoto,
this is squarely now on him. He cannot let this
opportunity pass him by. He cannot let this opportunity pass
him by for himself. He cannot let this opportunity pass
the fans, by his ownership, by the people that work
in that organization, that bust their ass, that have taken
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you know, shots after shot after shot after shot from
people like me and you and fans for twenty plus years.
He owes it to everybody to give this rotation the
best possible shot to make the postseason.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And you know what he owes it to me. He
owes it to me. God darn it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
He owes it to you, and he owes it to
me and everybody listening right now, because we have stayed.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
We have stayed through.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Thick and thin, and in the words of Kevin Costner,
we built you the stupid stadium.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
We cut down the corn. What's in it for us?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And if you're not gonna give us every chance to
see this rotation in the playoffs, then why are you
doing this? And what's in it for us? And what
do we owe you? So this is squarely now on him.
It's on him. What decision does he make tonight, Dick?
What decision does he come to tonight when he goes
home and looks at himself in the eye in the mirror,
when he talks to his wife, he prays to his God,
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what does he think if it's time to go, cut bait,
forget it, move on, And if he wants to stick
with a guy, then I think they're both attached to
the same wagon.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And if it doesn't work, you blow the whole thing
to Kingdom. Come, well, we know the decision he's gonna make.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
He and make no decision. I like it, absolutely flabbergasted
if he fired Scott Service today. But I agree with
you on many fronts. I think this team absolutely can
make the playoffs. I won't go so far as you
did to say that they can make the World Series
because that would be historically unprecedented for a team that
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is this anemic and half of the team to make
a World Series. Could they win a playoff series, Yeah,
maybe they can squeeze out a playoff series where they
win three games, like two to one. It's potential. I
don't think they can win multiple playoff series. But this
manager had the audacity to go on television today after
this game and say, we didn't get the breaks.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
They had one hit. Yea, what breaks?
Speaker 3 (12:07):
You're talking about a cal Rawly hot shot the first
base with a couple guys on. Okay, one hot shot
that got caught. That's not the breaks. That's we didn't
get a break. He had the audacity to open the
postgame show by chuckling and saying this game was like
a bad movie. Well, Scott, you're the director of the movie.
You're the director of this bad movie. You're the one
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making pitching decisions late that seemingly not Hindsight being twenty
twenty by Mariner fans.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Foresight being twenty twenty.
Speaker 3 (12:41):
I'm reading Twitter as Scott's making these decisions time and
time again. Guin, why is he doing this here? Why
is he doing that here? And then it all goes
up in flames that can happen every now and then,
and it happens to every single manager now and then.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Yeah, it's it.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Seems like it happens more and more frequently with this
baseball team because this baseball team has zero margin for eric.
And you know what, we've seen this movie before. It's
called except in reverse. Let me read you, Dave, the
ops of the nineteen ninety six Seattle Mariners, and I'll
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tell you why I'm bringing this as a comparison. Edgar
Martinez one point oh five to nine, Alex Rodriguez one
point oh four to five, Ken Griffy Junior one point
oh two zero, Jay Buner nine to twenty six, Paul
Sorrento eight seventy eight, Dan Wilson seven to seventy four.
Every one of those guys will be the number one
hitter on this baseball team. I know Ara has changed
a little bit, but every single one of those guys
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would have the number one ops on this baseball dam
Why do I bring this up because the nineteen ninety
six Mariners Dave went eighty five wins, second place, missed
the playoffs, They wasted Edgar a Rod Griffy and and
this team is wasting Kirby, Gilbert Miller, Castillo and Munios
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and they're gonna end up exactly where the nineteen ninety
six Mariners did.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Did you say woo? Because he who by unbelievable his
last five six guys he's been six guys are carrying
this baseball.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
I just think again, I think that there's a common
theme through all that that it's it's not gonna matter today,
but eventually, I think I'd like to see an ownership change.
I mean we've been begging for that for years. I mean,
all the money in this place, the fact that we
can't get a Bomber or a Bezos or a Bill
Gates to buy this baseball team and just spend gobs
of money. And you know what, look, even if it's
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not gobs of money, can just spend two fifty like
the Astros and Rangers do, for God's sakes and be
right there. So you know, it's like when I was
begging Paul Allen to sell the Seahawks and buy the Mariner.
Paul Allen would have been a better fit for the
Mariners because of a little salary cash and he was
sensational as an owner. So the common theme is the
DNA of the own ship group that goes back to
the early nineties.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean Howard Lincoln.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Obviously in the John Stanton Company, the DNA is the same.
The names of public facing names may change, but the
group itself, the DNA is the same, so nothing will
change long term. Maybe eventually they could stumble into when
when Tom Benson, the owner of the Saints, was looked
at as a huge boob with a stupid umbrella and
he finds a way to get Drew Brees and he wins.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
Everybody can stumble into something that's right. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
In forty eight years, the Mariners haven't even stumbled into it.
I mean, they can't even just you know, just fall
into a world series. And this is pitching wise, their
best chance to do it. And I mean I disagree
with you. You know, I realized it's on precidented, you know,
with how bad their offense is. But you're talking about
just having to win a series and just play good
for a week and then play good for another week. Right,
I mean it's not impossible. Dbacks won eighty eight games.
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They made the damn World Series a year ago, so
it can happen. Just get in the tournament. If there's
any tournament out there where a team like the Mariners
would have a shot, it's baseball.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Okay, what I bet on him?
Speaker 5 (15:54):
No?
Speaker 2 (15:54):
But I want the shot. I want the shot, and
then Jerry Depoto wants the shot. Jerry to Poto did
not build this rotation to win eighty five games.
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He built this rotation to win a title. That's why.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
That's why to win a championship in Seattle. And you
know people are texting you what good would do to
fire Scott's?
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Well?
Speaker 1 (16:10):
What good did it do to fire Brent Brown?
Speaker 3 (16:12):
Right?
Speaker 2 (16:12):
I mean you're trying to shake things up. You're looking
for the emotional edge, the emotional reaction. Why do you
think you whacked Ty France to put guys on high alert?
That didn't help either, Right, that was two weeks ago
or whatever it was. So all these moves are made,
the Astros cutting guys right and left. That make tens
of millions of dollars by the way to send messages
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inside their clubhouse that these performances won't be tolerated and
if you don't perform, doesn't matter how much money you're making,
you're done. And they did that twice with two different guys,
by the way, So I just think getting rid of
a manager in the end, it's not going to change
the lineup. It will not change the roster, but will
wake this thing up? Will let shake this thing up?
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They tried it twice with Brent Brown and Ty France
and neither move has made. Are they willing to make
a third with the coaching staff or are they now
going to just ride this thing out, drop to their
hands and knees and pray for the best. And if
that's your best chance, if you believe that's your best chance, great,
you're a job on the line, not mine. You're the
pro I'm not. But if you believe that's your best chance,
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then go for it. But I believe that if you
do that, you are squarely putting yourself under the cleag
lights by the end of the year if it doesn't work. Man,
So look, I'm just again tired of yelling and screaming.
This has been thirty years of this now for me,
save four or five different seasons, I am so tired
of going on the air and screaming and losing my voice.
And they're making me not give a damn. Maybe it's
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because I'm fifty one years old and not twenty one
years old anymore, but they're making me not give a damn,
and they're embarrassing me. They are embarrassing me as a
fan because look, players obviously talk to each other. They
jawed each other. We're seeing that now in these joint
practices in Tennessee. But did they not realize that we
do too? You know, we wear this stuff on our chest.
We wear our pride on our sleeve. We wear the
emblem of the baseball team and go out and stick
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our chests out when things are going well, then sometimes
hide when they're going bad.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
But we talk too. We get into it with fans,
We have debates, and they're they're embarrassing us. They're embarrassing
all of us with the way they're playing.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
So look, you can thank me because either A they're
gonna fire the guy or B they're about to go
on a big run. Because the last time I called
for a manager to be fired two years later, they
won one hundred and sixteen games and went to the ALCS.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
So, by the way, we're a winner. Here's what we're
gonna do. We're gonna grab some calls here, guys. Can
we do that?
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Jackson two eight six, ninety five, ninety five or eight
hundred eighty two nine or ninety five?
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:31):
I think we just kind of go old school for
a little bit. We've got a bunch of talkbacks I
know on the app to potentially play as well. But
I want to talk to you guys. Dick wants to
talk to you, guys. I want to hear everything that's
going on out there. You give us a buzz, and
you tell us, man, you you vent your spleen.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
You get it out here.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Don't go home and take this out in your kids,
don't take it out on your wife, take it out
on us. Two eight six, ninety five, ninety five. Give
us a buzz. Let's get your phone calls and get
your thoughts on this. Next on ninety three three KJRFM.
Speaker 7 (19:00):
From the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now
back to Sofie and Dick Gone your Home for the
Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three
kJ R FM. We have a bad movie.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
Funt like, you know, they played better thanas they got
the hits, shut us down offensively, you don't get much going.
That's what's gonna happen here in a three game series.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Uh, that's the voice of Scott service your manager, the
director of the bad the director of.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
The bad movie.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
You know.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
I mean, look, obviously we're gonna not be happy. We're
gonna be disgusted with whatever we hear right from the
skipper John Stanton speaks. You'll be disgusted by that Depoto speaks.
You'll be disgusted by that. You know, maybe they are
just better off stay and silent, you know, because it
doesn't do him any good. But you know, I just
think that Scott's Servis has kind of made his bed
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with just his reaction to all this stuff. You know,
he's snarky, he's a little arrogant, you know, sometimes a
little stubborn, kind of talks down to the fan base.
I think you've been observing that in the last couple
of years and the media, and you know, I just
kind of compare and contrast that to what Lupanella was
all about.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
And look, I get it.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Panella had won a World Series right before he came
to Seattle, played in New York with the Yankees. Was
a totally different personality and had a different resume than
Scott's Service does. But Lou Panella, the minute he showed
up here, it was obvious that he was creating a
line between him and the management. Right, he'd be the
one to rip him for not giving him a back.
He'd be the one to say, go rip the players,
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talk to them, don't talk to me. Scott hasn't been
that way, and it's hard after nine years to all
of a sudden morph into that guy.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
You can't do it well.
Speaker 3 (20:34):
I would just ask why is Scott servis the second
longest tenured manager in Major League Baseball?
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Because they created a scenario where they lost on purpose
and they got to reset the clock. That's why, That's why, why,
that's why Jerry's here.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
How many teams have done that, other teams have rebuilt
and reset the clock, and they still fire their managers
every three or four years.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
How many GMS and baseball get to be on the
job for nine years with one playoff series win? I mean, honestly,
I mean same same question for him that you can
ask for Scott.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
All right, let's go to the phone lines. Hey, let's
tack some phone calls.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Two eight six ninety five ninety five, Rich boy on
the cell phone. Let's go to Alex in West Seattle.
You're on the Softy and Dick with Jackson at stravig Enza.
How are you Alex?
Speaker 4 (21:13):
And good? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Guys. I
got just one question in kind of a comment. I
don't think that I'm upset, just like a lot of
fans are. But is there any surprise here when a
team is, you know, doing bargain basement moves here and
I don't My question would be twofold. Is it Depoto
doesn't have a budget because of ownership or is it
just him being thrifty? And then the second thing is
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more of an in game managerial managerial question about service.
You know, pulling a guy like Woo out after eighty
five pitches and seven innings. I know he started some
games this year, but again I don't know that pulling
a guy that's rolling in the seventh inning with eighty
four pitches, so that's on service. So I would say
I agree with what you guys are saying he needs
to go.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah. I just think it's on Depoto too.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
I think Dick and I have had this conversation, Alex,
and thanks for the call that this is an organizational philosophy.
It is because this is now nine years in and
they do the same thing. Okay, this idea that you
know what, we know what we're doing, you don't, Well,
it hasn't really worked, all right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
I mean, now the bullpen's blowing games.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
You know, Bryce Miller was unbelievable today in Detroit, and
he's been, as you pointed out last night lately, really
good on the road, where for a while he was
not good on the road and he got pulled with
ninety pitches. I mean, can you put him out there
in the eighth and see if you can get a
couple of quick outs? Why did you take him out?
Why'd you take Brian wou out? Because these guys are
treated like China dolls. They're treated like babies, they really are.
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And you know what, for the most part from a
health perspective, it's worked. But now you don't have an
offense that can score, and now you don't have a
bullpen that can protect leads. The best thing you've got
is your rotation. You have to carry that. You have
to let those horses run. As Brett Boone said a
week ago, and I'm sure we'll say again today, every
game should be managed like it's a playoff game.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
That's exactly right.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
And he didn't manage yesterday's game like a playoff game.
He didn't, particularly on the offensive end, he didn't move,
he didn't move a runner over. I threw out a
tweet today and I'll break down the numbers for you. Offensively,
you would think that the worst offensive team in baseball,
arguably the Seattle Mariners, would spend more of an emphasis
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sacrificing guys over trying to manufacture runs. Instead, they are
last in baseball in sacrifice flies plus bunths. They have
twenty four on the season. Yeah, that is twenty three
percent lower than any other team in Major League Baseball.
So don't tell me that this is well, this is
just the way it is in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
You don't move guys over.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
In twenty twenty four. No, no, no, no no, the Mariners
don't move guys over in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Not major League baseball. Yeah, well, you just ask Jerry.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Why they don't do that, because again, if Jerry wanted
things done differently, things would be done differently, and they're
not being done differently. Let's go to Joe Jackson, Joe
and Bothel you're on the air, Joe, go ahead.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
Man Bellas, thanks for taking my call. Jackson told me
not to swear, and I got to be honest with you.
I'm sixty two. I've been dealing with this on this
end of the phone for years. I haven't called in
for a long time, and I, when I was reaching
for the phone, pardon me, wanted the phone to be busy,
right because I'm thinking what am I gonna say? First
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of all, just pretend like I'm screaming right now. Just
I'm screaming my lungs out, but I'm not gonna do
it because I don't want to die driving my car.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
But what I do have to say is this is
like a girl that.
Speaker 8 (24:26):
You've in your life, you've really worked hard for, and
then you wake up and you have that moment of
clarity and you go, she doesn't like me, she doesn't
she doesn't like me. In this ownership group, they don't
like they don't like me. They don't like me, and
so I'm like dead inside. You know, I'm football season's
coming up, right, so once again we get the fast
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forward through. I mean, this town, like you said, and
I'm getting fired up. This town, like you said, would
go absolutely ape blank if this team did anything at all.
So I don't even have words anymore other than what
you so eloquently both of you throw down on a
regular basis, And I gotta tell you and I'm gonna
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get off, but thank you guys for giving us an outlet,
because I'm sure there's tons of dudes and women driving
around right now that are just like, I don't even know.
I don't even know what to say. So I love
you guys. Go dogs.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
Well, I appreciate man.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I mean, just imagine being us trying to reinvent the
wheel every damn year. I mean, it's it's it's tiresome
having to you know, just kind of think of a
different way to say the same freaking thing. And I
agree with you about the ownership and the passion in
this town, and I just I just wish that the
ownership had the same amount of passion as the fans do,
because for this fan base to be consistently at minimum
in the middle of the pack attendance wise, Dick for
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a team that has never made the World Series is
a testament to us, because if you woke up one
day in an alternate universe and you saw the Marina
fan base dead last in baseball, you'd say, oh, that
makes sense. They've never been there. It's been fifty years,
they've never made the World Series. Of course their fans
are pissed. No, we have given them everything, and they
owe us everything because they've given us nothing. Let's get
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a couple of quick ones, Dick Nelson's and Kent Nelson.
Speaker 9 (26:09):
You're on the air, Hey, Toty Vick, I like to
open up the phone. I just want to say, and
this is not me being a prisoner of the moment
because I'm mad.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
We have bad owners. That's not new.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
But there are teams that have won with bad owners.
Speaker 6 (26:26):
You have the Guardians, you.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
Have the Royals, you have the Brewers, all doing better,
all doing what Jerry wants to do, better than Jerry
wants to do it with thirty to forty million less dollars.
This is the same Jerry to Poto, who I'm not
even going to count Mitch Hanniger's salary because that was
a wash with Robbie Ray trading that contract. He paid Polanco, Garter,
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furious Stanic, and he chose to bring France back at
seven million bucks. He paid all of them forty million dollars.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
Instead of just going and getting one really good player
or two good players, he gave all that pile of
junk forty million. This is a guy whose best team statistically,
and I've looked this up because I'm a big anti
Jerry guy. This is a guy whose best team was
two thousand and sixteen. They were eighth and ops, sixth
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in runs, six Anthon Era in every move he made
that offseason, trading Freddy Peralta for Adam Lanz, signing Wade Miley,
trading Lomo and Brad Miller for Nate Carnes, who was
a bum. He has been a bum his whole career.
He's the worst GM in baseball. I congress he can
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draft players that have value, But did he use those
players to go out at the deadline. No, he's thrown
out excuses at all. You know, no other team wanted
to trade any of their guys.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
You didn't try.
Speaker 6 (27:51):
You even went on the radio and said you didn't
really try after you got Turner.
Speaker 10 (27:55):
This is who he is. He tried. He thinks he's
better than anybody.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
And you were talking about arrogance from Scott, and he
is arrogant, but that comes from Jerry.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
Jerry is the issue.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
I am so sick of it. I'm so tired of
people blaming Scott when he's he's gotten eighty eight to
ninety wins out of a roster that, quite frankly, is
a five hundred roster. It's great pitching, it's bottom of
the barrel hitting, and it's been that way since twenty sixteen.
He thinks he can play chess and he sucks, all right?
Speaker 1 (28:30):
Love it, love it. I love the passion.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, I mean again, the Mariner ownership group, Mariner management team,
they should be thrilled that people have this amount of
passion because I tell you what, you would think that
by this point in time, Dick and we'll take some
more calls next segment, there'd be a lot of apathy
creeping in. There ain't no apathy right now. I mean,
it's the exact opposite of that. So hold that thought.
We'll get to tell you get a take from Dick Jackson,
You'll jump into more phone calls.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Fill him up.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Two eight six ninety five, ninety five Mariners managed one
hit today against the Tigers and get swept. They get
swept by the deet Tigers and are now three games
out of first place. Your phone calls Brett Boone at
four coming up on ninety three three.
Speaker 7 (29:05):
kJ RFM, Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist
broadcast studio. Now back to Sofie and Dick Gone your
home for the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety
three point three KJR FM.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
We gotta get on base. You gotta have good at bats.
You gotta keep grinding it out. We did it some
ball decent today. You know, cal Line's out forst and third.
Now there, you're not getting a whole lot of breaks either. Yeah,
they have to, you know, be honest with that.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
All right, the voice of Mariner manager Scott's service after
the m has just laid a complete third in Detroit
today against the Tigers andres Munnos and look bad pitch
selection by him to Baya is no question about that.
Just you know, hung a breaking ball right over the
edge of the plate and bang he pushed it into
the outfield stands for a home run. But there's no
margin for error, right, I mean, everything is hard, everything
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is a pain in the ass for this baseball team,
and you make one mistake as a starting pitcher or
reliever and it ends up being a loss.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
I know what I thought. As soon as Root Sports
put the graphic up that Andre's Munos was one inning
away from having the longest streak of scoreless innings for
a reliever through twenty twenty two, Jenks, I was a
little bit worried about that. I just, you know, I
was just thinking about what the the last callers said,
Greg Nelson, great call by Nelson and Cannon. How he
kind of compared it to that girl that doesn't really
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like yet. It's like we bend over backwards for this team.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
We bend I.
Speaker 3 (30:28):
Remember sitting here, You and I were sitting here in
this stadium watching a championship caliber National championship caliber football
team play Arizona, and we couldn't give a damn because
the Mariners and the Astros were going to extra innings.
I was down there on that field, the practice field,
where they had a huge screen set up, and I
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was watching the baseball game instead of a live football
game right in front of me with a team that
would end up playing for the national championship. That's how
this team has us wrapped around on their little finger,
and how we give so much more to them than
they do.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I was on the air during halftime when Mitch Haniger
was at the plate in the ninth inning and looking
up watching Mitch, and I still have no idea what
the hell I was even talking about. I was on
the air when Kyle Rowley hit the home run against
the A's during halftime at the UCLA game, and the
whole place Jackson went bananas unbelievable.
Speaker 11 (31:18):
To Dick's point, I'm really clear. I know we want
to get a couple more calls in. Yeah, I just
wanted to quickly say, because last segment of SOFTI, you
said then the fact we felt the passion from Nelson
and you know, to Dick to your point right there,
the the interest and how much they have is I
gotta be honest, SOFTI, I'll disagree. I'm I'm feeling the
apathy like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
It is now.
Speaker 11 (31:37):
I didn't really notice it until today, but really today
I'm just sort of like, yep, okay, yep, this is
this is just what we experienced and it's not. It's
I'm over frustration. I'm over the anger and the sadness.
Today I just felt apathy, like whatever, this baseball.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Team just continuously.
Speaker 11 (31:57):
I'm thirty two years old, and I really, for the
my time as a Mariner fan, I've seen one great
moment in the mental moment of being at the stadium,
and that's a couple of years ago, cal Rawley's home run.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Other than that, I got nothing.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
And if they go five and one, Jackson, if they
go five and one and Houston goes three and three
over the next six games, which is absolutely possible, are
you still gonna be apathetic? There?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
A half game out of Let me answer the question
for you, Jackson. Can I speak for you and you're me?
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Because what he'll do then he'll check back in you,
check back on what he wants.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Because that's what fans do. Fans can do whatever they
damn well, well.
Speaker 11 (32:32):
You can have momentary apathy, and right now I have
momentary apathy.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
And this baseball team has driven us to that.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
They they we we owe them nothing, nothing And if
we want to check out for a week or check
out for a couple of games and be pissed off
and say that we're quitting and that we're being apathetic.
You god darn right, we've earned that right to do
that as fans forget it.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
He wants to check out, he can check out. Man.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
I'm so tired of people getting on fans for being
pissed off. Well you're gonna want to come back, Well, okay,
then you know we'll come back. If it ever happens,
we'll come back. But for now, people are pissed. Let
people be pissed. The Mariners should be thanking their freaking
stars and on their hands and knees.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
That were pissed and not apathetic.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
We've devoted the first hour of this radio show to
a baseball team that was an embarrassment for three days
in Detroit. That's what we've done, all right, Josh and Olympia.
Josh here on the air. Go ahead, man, how are
you buddy here?
Speaker 4 (33:23):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (33:24):
Thanks guys.
Speaker 12 (33:24):
So he was absolutely correct talking about relationships like this team.
This is an abusive relationship that we're in with.
Speaker 4 (33:31):
These guys, and it's completely.
Speaker 12 (33:33):
Maddening and frustrating when you hear.
Speaker 6 (33:36):
Dylan morg on MLB Network and.
Speaker 12 (33:38):
They ask him his hitting philosophy, and he basically said,
I'm getting the bad head out front.
Speaker 8 (33:43):
I'm trying to.
Speaker 12 (33:44):
Get ahead of the fastball. And they say, can you
expand on that a little bit. He's like, nope, I'm
just trying to get the fastball. And that is their philosophy.
You know, in business, things should fail quickly. You should
try it, let it go on its own merit, and
if it doesn't, move on. But Scott, you know, getting
back to Dick saying nineteen ninety six, I started listening
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to your program in nineteen ninety six, and we don't
have to go loop Panella saying, you know, throw bleeping strikes.
But you know, Scott's way of letting people do what
they want is not working, and it's proven it. You know,
Justin Turner comes up the other day, fights the ball
off the other way.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Gets a base hit.
Speaker 12 (34:24):
Everyone's like, oh my god, that's incredible.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Right, He's just hit with two strikes. You know.
Speaker 12 (34:28):
Meanwhile the second base is playing two feet off second
base and Dylan Moore and I'm not trying to pick
on him, this is just the microcosm of things. Dylan
Moore hits the ball right up to the middle. The
second baseman doesn't even move. He grabs it, steps to
the right, and it's a double play. The whole right
side's open. If Scott's Service really wanted to have this
team be successful, he stopped being a mouthpiece for Jerry,
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he'd have the courage to challenge his guys privately as
men and say, you guys need to put in it
back together. And that doesn't mean get the bat head
out situationally, sacrifice yourself for this team and good things
will happen.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
He doesn't have it in him. He doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
He doesn't He doesn't have it in him. He doesn't
have it in him. He doesn't have the resume, he
doesn't have the confidence. He hasn't built up the success
that a guy like Lou Panela or a Joe Madden
or whoever, name any manager in baseball that's had success.
You can't have that kind of confidence before you have success.
Speaker 1 (35:26):
He doesn't have it in him.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
And you saw it last year when he got pissed
off at cal Raley for speaking his mind. Okay, that's
when you knew that Scott Servis and Jerry Depoto were
tied at the hip, Because what manager would go off
on their catcher for being emotional after the team made
the playoffs. It should be or missed the playoffs, it
should be the exact opposite. I would say, that's the
kind of passion I want in a leader. That's why
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we love cal Raley right there, And none of that
was Instead he told him to calm down.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
You know, you let your emotions get the best of you.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
I thought he sounded like a chump last year, and
I said that at the time.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I said that at all.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
I'm furious when he was going after cal Rowley. Luke
Panella never would have said that ever. He would have
loved that from his catcher. And we got guys that
are passionate and they're speaking their mind, and they're frustrated
and angry, and instead of saying, hell, yeah, we need
more of that, we're telling them to watch their emotions.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (36:20):
But by god, But back to the caller's point, when
is the last time you watched a game and said, Wow,
that was a good out right there by the Mariners,
Well done, that was a good piece of hitting where
it ended up being an out, I can't remember, Jackson.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Can we sneak in one more. Let's do it all right,
Let's go to Gary and seeattle. Gary, you're on the air, Gary,
give us about a minute. Gary, we're late for a
break man.
Speaker 10 (36:41):
Go ahead, guys, thanks so much for taking a call.
A fan of the show, except as an Oregon Death
fan all my life, there's a few times I'm mumbling
curse words under my breath that you thought me, but
you hit that, you hit the nail on the head. Today,
after last night, I'm like, Okay, I'm done, and they're done.
They're done. They're not going to catch the Astros. And
then I get on the get on this drive today
and hear you speaking my mind. So as a former
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baseball player and played some minor league ball, I can
appreciate creative creativeness and some and you know, some strategic baseball.
And they're not playing it. If I had a nickel
for every time they had first and second with nobody
out and they pop up, pop up strikeout instead of
a bunch or hitting somebody over, they just cannot do it.
So this, Hey, the Seahawks changer coaching staff, we think
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the Mariners can do.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Great call. You know, it's funny. We've been sitting here
for an hour. And there's one thing we haven't even mentioned,
one big talking point. We haven't even mentioned Dick, and
that is what they held. Have they just do to
Julio Rodriguez. We haven't mentioned that either. Oh you're right,
who had to leave the game yesterday and sat out
today because he reads it reinjured his foot. Well we
all knew they rushed him back too fast and bingo,
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he's hurt again.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Unbelievable. Man, Wait talk to Boonie about Oh yeah, that's
coming next.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
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