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August 2, 2024 38 mins
In the first hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain discuss today’s news of Washington officially joining the Big Ten and visit with Athletic Director Pat Chun about the move, sit down then with Laken Tomlinson, new Seahawks guard, about joining Seattle this year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:28):
Alright, three oh four and a busy Friday afternoon live
from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center right here on ninety
three to three KJRFM. Softy Dick Jackson with you until
seven o'clock tonight. You heard Dick mention it right there
in the update, Day number one in the Big ten
for Washington, Day number one and a brand new conference,
Day number one with a brand new name. For the

(00:50):
first time in our lives, Washington is not playing in
a conference that starts with a pack. And it's weird, right,
The whole thing is just weird. I mean, obviously we've
known this is coming down now for a few months.
I mean, nothing is surprising anybody. It's going back to
what almost a year ago. Now I think at this
time when this whole thing was announced, But I've kind
of for klemped. I find myself a little bit melancholy

(01:11):
interesting about the whole thing, and I'm kind of shocked
at my reaction. I mean, I was fired up the
day it happened, you know me. I was tearing up
on the ear from Jimmy's when the word came down
that you Dub was going to join the Big ten.
I thought it was a big day for Udeb. I
thought there was a party happening around Collage Athletics and
the Pac twelve, and by proxy, Washington was not invited.
And now we are. Now we're invited. Now we're playing

(01:31):
at the same table with the big boys. And it's ironic.
Is it irony? Or is it coincidence that the Pac
twelve had the year they had football wise last Seasony? Yeah,
it's ironic, thank you. If they had that great year,
maybe the best of that twenty years it could be.
And then the whole thing fell apart. But I find
myself a little bit kind of bummed out. I mean,
I gotta be honest with you. I was doing cross

(01:51):
talk with Ian and Jess and you know, they're they're
obviously bummed out for them and their situations and just
hearing you know, how kind of down they are about
where they're going and kind of being left behind a
little bit. I'll be honest with you and I I again,
is it is it possible to have two emotions at
the same time, to be bummed out about this transition,
because number one, it just reminds me that I'm getting

(02:13):
freaking old when things like this happen, and then number
two also be super excited about the opportunity coming up
in the Big ten.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
No, I think you can have those two emotions. I'm
a little bit different.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
I do feel empathy towards Cougar's and Beaver fans, but
me as a Husky, I'm glad to pack twelve's done
because I just see the direction of how college football
is going, and college football is going to a two
superpower state, and the fact that we are invited to
be in one of the superpowers is incredibly exciting to me.
And there's gonna be some bumps along the road, financial

(02:45):
bumps along the road over the next five six years,
and we only get to you know, half of a share,
but you know, the Huskies are gonna weather that they
always They always weather it, right they and they always
come out on top or near the top. And I
don't think this is gonna be any different. So I
am super excited. I don't think I'm going to get
used to it until we're probably maybe until we've traveled
to every other big ten venue, Right the first time

(03:09):
we go to Nebraska, the first time we go to
know Wisconsin, I think we're gonna have to travel just
about every place before I really feel like we're a
part of the conference.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
Well, first of all, the question you just are, the
statement you just made, you said you're glad the PAC
twelve is no longer. Is that correct?

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Well, I'm glad the PAC twelve is is no longer
in the current and future state of college football. If
college football would have stayed in the state it was
in two thousand and five, I'd have been totally fine
staying in the PAC twelve. That's where they probably should belong.
But the PAC twelve decided to not grow up with
the rest of college football. They decided to light poor
gasoline on their indoor furniture, light it on fire, and

(03:46):
burn their house down.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
Well, and I'm just glad we escaped the house.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
And it could have changed. I mean, the PAC twelve
could have changed if they had hired the right commissioner.
But I don't think the PAC twelve presidents ever would
have done that. I mean, I think these people showed
their true colors over the previous you know, fifteen twenty years.
I mean, I just remember, you know, coaches bitching about
Tom Hansen, bitching about who's the air guy, the middle guy,
the tennis guy, Larry Scott's and then George klaioffkoff is trading.

(04:12):
I mean, nobody, nobody had any teeth to be able
to convince these presidents to do anything different. So I
would have preferred to live in a world where the
PAC twelve puts in the efforts, puts in the capitol,
puts in the passion, just like the Big ten and
the SEC and even in some ways the Big twelve does.
But that was just never gonna happen. It was never
gonna happen collectively because there's not enough of the Washingtons

(04:34):
and Oregons on the West Coast. There isn't And now
you're in a conference with some of the greatest fan
bases in sports. Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Wisconsin, Indiana Basketball.
I mean, are you Purdue? Are you kidding me? There's
not gonna be any problems with passion Dick in the
Big Ten. Have you seen some of the places that
UDUB is gonna walk into and what they do in these.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Places Presquas eighty thousand for a volleyball house.

Speaker 4 (04:59):
The Paine Jumper at Camp Randall, the white out at
Penn State, ready, the traditions at Iowa. These are die
hard college towns full of fans that are frothing at
the mouth, that love their teams. And this is the
big difference now between today and yesterday for you. And
by the way, it was almost exactly a year ago

(05:20):
when they announced it. It was August fourth of twenty
twenty three, three hundred and sixty three days ago, and
now it became official today.

Speaker 5 (05:27):
I think even if the PAC twelve would have done
the right things, we would be here sitting as a
PAC twelve school looking like, oh man, are we in
the right conference? Because I think the PAC twelve would
have been no better off had they done everything right.
I don't think the PAC twelve would have been any
better off than the current ACC or the current Big twelve.

(05:48):
And I don't think the current ACC or Big twelve
are in very good shape long term, and so I
still think you would be on the outside looking in,
like those two other conferences are right now because they're
not the big ten in the sea see, and those
are the two power conferences going forward in this world.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
Of college And it's too bad because it doesn't It
didn't have to be this way. I mean, I just
think collectively again when you're talking about places like like
think about like Stanford football and Cal football and UCLA football,
so many places where you would watch games where nobody
would show up and nobody would give a damn. It
was just again when the conference presidents don't care because

(06:25):
the fans don't care. Like I don't know who callus
president is, but why should callous president care about football
when the fans don't care about football, when the students
in the alumni don't care about football. And before Mike
Silver blows my phone up, it says I care about football.
I'm talking in general terms, Okay, I need to guss
get that exactly. And there's passion in a place like this.
There's passion in a place like Oregon. I hate to

(06:47):
say it, but it's true. There's passion for football at
a place like USC there's passion for basketball at a
place like UCLA. Utah certainly hasn't no question about that.
There's just not enough of it. Sports is not a
big enough prilrea on the West coast, and so Washington
had to join a conference that had that. And look,
I mean the Big Ten and the SEC, you know,

(07:09):
especially in the SEC playing through COVID, didn't give a damn.
We're playing through COVID. We get sick, we get sick,
and you can call them fools, you can call them
State play at full the SEC, dude, the big time, right,
But the further away you get from the West Coast,
the more passion you get for doing things like that.
We're gonna break Pat Chun on day one of the
Big Ten for dub A d at Washington next on

(07:29):
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Speaker 2 (07:33):
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Speaker 4 (07:50):
Well, big day over you, dB Dick. We're at the
vMac for Seahawks training camp the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
But today is the first day of the rest of
their lives in the Big Tag day number one. Who
knows how many in the Big ten conference. And like
a proud papa, the ad at Washington, Pat Chun joining
us right now to talk about a really really big

(08:12):
day over at you. Pat? How are you man?

Speaker 6 (08:15):
I'm probably nothing more symbolic of how different the world
is that you guys are at the vMac today and
Pete Carroll's at our practice today on.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
My lake and you are the AD at Washington.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
I mean, yeah, I think eat right, the world has
turned and spun at racey would have never imagined the world.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
That we lived in six months ago is no longer
recognizable to a lot of people. But I mean, Pat,
maybe just start there. How much of a transition is this?
I mean we kind of think about professionally, you know,
obviously landmarks, logos, things like that, but mentally this is
a transition, right. I Mean there's people that have worked
for that school for a long time. You've been a
part of the PAC twelve, PAC ten for a long time.

(08:53):
The fans of this team that grew up and lived
and died in this conference. How much of a shock
to the system in some way is this? For some people?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
You think, well, this is going to be different, and
the route to the top is going to be very different.
And although there are extraordinary benefits and opportunities as being
in the Big ten, you know, I've you know, once
you start to study you know, Washington and our history
and why and how we've been so successful, one of
those reasons is how we're structured in the support and

(09:22):
you know I've been I've been telling you know, as
a meeting with with more Huskies and getting around town,
it's reminding everybody that, hey, I could give a pretty
fact based argument that the Huskies leave, you know, as
a top program in the PAC twelve, and whether you're
measured by year, five years, ten years, fift years, hundred years,
we could give you that argument. We also leave as
the second highest operating budget in the PAC twelve. And

(09:43):
now as we head into this new conference, we slide
in at number ten inside that conference. And it's really
just a byproduct of decisions made in the PAC twelve
over the years. And you know, and on top of
that is, we're entering the league that has invested and
reinvested in itself over and over while you know, our
venues declined relative to what peers have. So it's just
it's a different challenge. But you know, at the end

(10:05):
of the day, it's still about us. It's still about
us being the best we're supposed to be. Uh, you know,
it's more it's really my responsibility, not anyone else's, to
make sure that, you know, we increase our revenue lines.
And uh, you know that's part of the challenge we
I have going forward.

Speaker 5 (10:18):
And so what's your expectations be based upon the numbers
that you just threw up there? How much should we
expect that the Huskies might struggle to compete financially with
the rest of the conference at least while they're receiving
a partial share.

Speaker 6 (10:29):
Well, I go back to the Cowboys, Yankees and probably
the Lakers. I mean, if if revenues were why everybody
wins every year, then the rest of us shouldn't shouldn't
shouldn't even bother to compete. It's deeper than that. You
guys are the Seahawks are probably better example, as actually
was talking about that with Pete Carroll today, as he
was just asking about about revenue share that's on the horizon,
how it impacts us. And you know, I, you know,

(10:51):
I use the same thing as the reason why they
you know, if it was that easy, the Cowboys will
win every year, but it's not so for us, you know,
on the go forward is I think it's a blessing
that the mind changes now that you know, starting next
year theoretically is upon basically you know, once approved, will
be in a revenue share model. And and and it's
my belief that for college athletics it's not going to

(11:11):
be about how much you spend. It's going to be
more and how smart you spend. Uh And I just
look at and I just look at it, and you
can look at that in terms of in pro sports,
it's you know, there's there's you know, there's a reason
why the Seahawks have had more success than the Cowboys
over the last twenty five years because they've been you know,
they've just operated better. So for us, I think, you know,
I think it's really just incumbent on all of us

(11:32):
at you Dub, just to make sure that hey, we're
you know, we're being strategic, we're hiring the right people,
we're creating you know, we're enhancing our environment and our culture.
Because at the end of the day, it's like like,
you know, it's like, you know, I talked to the
football team yesterday and you know, just reminded them it's
our Technically, yesterday was our last day in the in
the Pac twelve. And then you know, Coach Fish opened

(11:52):
that team meeting by talking about how please you up
at with practice, And I said, hey, you know, in
our last day in the Pac twelve, you know you
did what every every Husky football program has done before
you and try to maximize the day. And then today
when we wake up, we have another opportunity and it
just so happens durun the Big ten. And you know,
we can't control anything down the road, but we can't
control today. So like, if you know, for us, I

(12:14):
would assume it it's always been this way. And as
I've done this deeper dive and study into you Dub
and the Huskies and what has made us so successful,
I mean, it is really really, you know, it's really
focused on being the best we're supposed to be in
history shows that that that can get you all the
way to the top of the mountain.

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Well, I love the unprompted random shots at the Dallas Cowboys,
by the way, so I'm so keep those coming as
a as a Cleveland guy, I know you don't mind
taking shots at them either. But Hot Shun is with
us on the radio show, So I mean, I'm just
gonna done this down as much as I can, more
for my purposes to be honest with you than than
somebody else's. But what do you need right? Like, you've

(12:52):
got a brand new basketball facility coming in? You just
mentioned it's more important to spend the money wisely than
to have this gigantic war chest and spend it poorly.
You need like if you're going to go shopping with
a shopping cart and you have an unlimited budget, grab
whatever you want. Uh, you know, new stadium, new turf, new,
you know, basketball court, new, you know, golf fitness center?

(13:12):
What do you need over there at You dubbed that
maybe now we can go out and get because we're
going to be in the Big ten.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
Well that changed Friday because now now now that we
are allowed to share you know, somewhere around twenty two
to twenty three million that that's to be defined in
revenues with with you know, a segment of our student athletes.
You know, our budget hasn't changed, although what we need
to what we can share has changed. And the reality
for Washington is we have always been, you know, whatever

(13:41):
the max the NCAA or whatever governor US governs US
has allowed for us to give to our student athletes
in terms of benefits and services, Washington has always been
at the top. And there is not a scenario where
I see that that changes. So for us, really, when
we talk about growing growing our budget now, which really
the realities of hey, you know, I think we're at
around one hundred and sixty seven, one hundred and sixty

(14:03):
seven hundred and sixty eight million dollars budget. We're not
at you know, one eighty eight one ninety. But we're
gonna have to We're gonna have to grow our revenue
streams because for us to go compete at the highest levels,
we're gonna have to go find dollars because ultimately there
are more dollars we can share with our athletes, which
is you know, obviously something that that that we're proponents of.

Speaker 5 (14:18):
That you do, you know, the Big Ten growing up there,
you probably know it better than most other Big ten commissions.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
You spent basically the first you know, twenty five years
of your life.

Speaker 5 (14:26):
There is there an identity or an essence that's unique
to being a Big ten team that we need to
learn about.

Speaker 6 (14:35):
I think you've hurt you guys have heard me say it,
you know, over and over, like we we are a
Big ten institution. We're you know, we're we're as we're
a school that you know is nationally and even globally.
We're recognized for academic excellence, big research, big medical system,
big athletics, and just this just this, you know, unbridled

(14:56):
passion for your alma mater and the school you love.
So at the end of the day, when you when
you when you package it all all up, it's it
just happens to be a conference that wants to be
great academically and wants to be great athletically. And it's
it's institutions that have tried to marry the two, uh
for you know, for nearly a century. So that's probably
where the biggest share in and really it's it's you know,

(15:19):
you know, you make no secrets about it. It's you know,
football is a priority in the Big Ten, and football
is a priority at the University of Washington. We would
not have the history, you know, history we've had if
we didn't make it a priority. And you know, it's
probably no secret that the greatest coach in school history,
you know, has has Big Ten roots as well, grown
up in the state of Ohio and coach James. So
when you bundle everything up, I mean there's a reason
why we we look the way we look as an

(15:40):
athletic department because you know, at the end of the day,
we've always kind of married, you know, we've mirrored those
paths of trying to be great academically and athletically as
an institution.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Pat jun with us simply put, is going to the
Big ten going to force you to pay coaches more. Well,
this cost you more because of now you're paying Big
ten coaches and not Pack twelve coaches.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Uh you know, well, I think are you know, we're
doing it and it's no different than every other athletic
program in the country. With last Friday's official news about
revenue share. I think we're all taking a look of
where we're allocating resources because there is nothing more important
than who your student athletes are that are wearing those jerseys.
So you know, the nice thing is there's there there.

(16:23):
You know, there will be a mechanism which which we
can you know, get more back to our student athletes,
you know, and and you know what we look like
going forwards, going to really dictate what our budget model
looks like. And there's just more questions right now than
answers because, you know, because of the revenue share on
the horizon.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
I was reading an interview did with Christian Cable the
other day and you mentioned seating capacity, and now you've
got revenue challenges having twenty five thousand less seats than
many Big ten schools.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
This is just spitball idea.

Speaker 5 (16:52):
Would you ever consider making a horseshoe of your own
in your own stadium and putting an upper deck on
the on the west side and getting it up to
night ninety five thousand or do you even think there's
that type of hunger, that type of demand to fill
a ninety thousand seat stadium in Seattle.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Well, we're a pro market and winning does matter in
a pro market, and the Seattle of yesterday is not
the same Seattle of today. So you know, we we
you know, our communities become more transient just with just
the volume of jobs and people that have come from
all over the globe and have made this home. So
we recognize that there are other ways that we need
to be more creative. I think, you know, this year's
going to be you know, good for me to educate

(17:30):
myself more on on what potential revenue opportunities are out there.
You know, it's it's nice to be able to go
to a Mariner's game. You know, I went to Seahawks
practice last Saturday just to kind of you know, in
the past when I've gone, it's just more to you know,
spend time and just enjoy a game. But now I'm
kind of looking around a little bit more to see what,
you know, what's what's some of the best in the

(17:50):
business do relative to activating in a very crowded marketplace
for you know, for pro sports specifically. So I mean
there's you know, there's there's there's opportunity right beneath our
noses that you do. It's you know, you know, our
athletics team is trying to figure those things out, and
you know what, we're going to be as entrepreneurial and
creative as possible, you know, to try to figureut where

(18:11):
we can find more dollars.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
Well, patchn today with us on the radio show ad
Over You dub day one and the Big Ten is today.
So a big day at Washington, big day across the
Big Ten for sure. But I'm looking at the women's
soccer schedule because I believe they will be the first
team to play games as a member of the Big Ten,
the first kind of non Pac twelve, you know, Big

(18:33):
Ten school at Maryland September nineteenth and Rutgers that same
weekend the twenty second. I assume they stay on the road.
A lot of people pat have asked about travel for
the non revenue sports. Football team will travel in style
on a charter? These these other teams, Will they all
be flying commercial all over the country. Will there be
something done to kind of alleviate maybe the the hassle

(18:53):
of travel for those sports?

Speaker 6 (18:55):
You think, well, at least with both both those locations,
you're pretty confident that there's a NonStop on Alaska that
are some airline that I'll get us get them back here.
So it's working with it's working with the WOST School
and trying to trying to you know, package in what
what what what kind of contests should start relative to
making sure they can get to the airport in a

(19:17):
functional time. So, you know, I've said this, you know
there there, we're gonna we're going to be in you know,
information accumulation mode all year. You know, we're going to
try to you know, we're going to do some things right.
We're gonna you know, try to see things that we
need to approve on. But uh and we need to
you know, we're going to try to figure out what
the toll of travel is going in the coast of

(19:37):
coast conference. It's never been done before. So there's not
there's not really any you know, there's no league you
can call to just get advice on how do you
manage you know, a lead schedule that that's you know,
multiple time zones. And it's just one of those many
things that we're gonna have to learn and you know,
and and try to you know, make sure it becomes
somewhat you know, we have to make sure it's manageable
and then try to make it as strategic as possible

(19:58):
and how we go forward travel.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
And is there something you can work with the conference
for that because you know, Danny Sprinkle mentioned with us,
he said, you know, teams are gonna only come out
here once from the East, We're gonna have to go
back there four.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Or five times.

Speaker 5 (20:09):
So is it possible to get some scheduling adjustments to
benefit you because it does seem like an uneven playing
field when it comes to travel.

Speaker 6 (20:19):
Yeah, So those are the things what will work, what
will work specifically with our conference to make sure as
we as we like, you know, this year is going
to be a lot of you know, learning and trying
to figure out as we go, uh, simply simply because
of you know, just just because it's ever been done before.
And I think and as we get more, as we
get a better understanding of where you know, you know,

(20:41):
the nice thing is everyone in the Big ten, you know,
everyone understands what's it's take. Everybody understands as strong and
is as deep as the league is is better for
the entire league. And you know, the the other reality
too is is you know that this is you know,
there's two power conferences out there now, and you know
you know, we're going to be judged on the depth

(21:02):
of our league and how many national championships we went
across the board. And you know, there's a reason why
these four schools are in the pack left the pack
twelve for the Big ten, uh, and it's just just
because we strengthen that league in multiple multiple ways.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Pat, do we know, Uh, can you share with us?
Are there any plans for any kind of a throwback
or I guess alternate uniform game, helmet game. It feels
like once a year at ditas as you guys do
something like that. Anything on the schedule that we can
talk about.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Yet not yet and I'm still the new guy and
trying to figure out where we can you know, what
the right thing to do with that that and what
the opportunities are. But uh, you know, I'm a fan
at heart of sport in itself so and I'm a
fan of always celebrating our history and when you do
have those opportunities, it's always great to be able to,
you know, be able to tell your young people, hey,
these are you know, these are these are these are

(21:50):
the things that happen during this era of whatever sport
it is. And it's part of the reason why where
we are what we are today. So as those opportunities
come up. You know, I've actually had some conversations with
some of our coaches on some of the things they've
they've thought of in terms of celebrating some of our past.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
Pat you got this great sixty million dollars practice facility
going in right now. How about Alaska Airlines arena?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Is it a long.

Speaker 3 (22:13):
Term solution as a Big Ten arena or changes have
to be made there?

Speaker 6 (22:17):
I would at the end, we have to make sure
it's it's a you know, I guess the first thing
first is we got to make sure it is a
tough home court environment for both our men and our women,
and that starts with our students. That you know, we're
going into a conference that is very different than the
one we're leaving in both basketballs and you know, you
just look, you just look at the home court advantages

(22:40):
in the in the Big Ten in basketball, whether it's
Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue, you go right, Wisconsin, you go
right down the list. It's very different than the league
we did that that we just left. And for us
to you know, manage that league, we're gonna have to
make it, make it, make it, you know, a tough
place to play, to mirror the tough team that Danny
Danny teams that Danny and teen are trying to together.

(23:00):
So those are all things that like like as we
go forward, well we we will, we will prioritize what
we need to do. But right now, my our number
one priority is to increase revenues simply because you know,
we got we got different bills to pay relatives to
the revenue share.

Speaker 4 (23:16):
Well, I know that the since the stadium reopened what
twenty fourteen is that right, Boise State game? Every year
it was, the locker room has been redone since then.
I mean it was phenomenal when it opened up. And
the football locker room has been reopened. Do you see
any need for any football facility upgrades in the near future.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
Well, we've just we've just put about twenty million uh
into into our foot football facility. And that really started
upon Jed's arrival as he looked to modernize some of
the things inside the football facility and doing what right
it too our fund written to our fundraising team. Uh yeah,
it's it's you know, he wanted you know, it's all
student athlete driven but he's got you know it upgrades

(23:54):
to our weight room, upgrades to our our nutrition area.
You know, we have the big Don James Center project
as well that that's going to be the training table
for our student athletes. So there's just there's a handful
of things that that you know, upon arrival, uh he
and Troy worked together to prioritize, you know, what are
some of the things some of the improvements that that
they deemed important. And you know, as you see, as

(24:16):
you see those the decisions that were made, you respect
those decisions because you know they're they're all done with
the student athlete of mind. So uh So, you know
it's you know, it's it's I'm really proud of this
are our athletic fundraising team here because you know, on
the heels of a national championship and then for that
coach to leave, you know, it's kind of unprecedented to
to be able to go fundraise twenty million dollars with

(24:37):
a brand new coach. But but the reality is we
are so fortunate for for all the you know, just
the just the transformative support we get from Huskies all
over the city, state and low to make sure that
we're putting in a position accomplishma goal.

Speaker 4 (24:52):
Well, all that sounds awesome, But I got one thing
to ask you. We need an upgrade with the media
food at the press box. Can you take.

Speaker 6 (24:57):
Care of that or do we feed you?

Speaker 1 (24:59):
What?

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Do?

Speaker 4 (24:59):
What do we fe right now? It's box lunches with sandwiches.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
Okay, you want specific, something specific for use off here?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Yes, you can want right now.

Speaker 4 (25:09):
I want Well, I'm thinking about upgrades for all but
specifically me, I have.

Speaker 1 (25:13):
I have a list.

Speaker 4 (25:14):
I will send you up my list off here.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
I will file it appropriately, but I get it.

Speaker 4 (25:19):
Yeah, the circular file. Good for you. Pat, all right, man, Hey, congratulations,
big day. We're fired up for this, buddy, looking forward
to it. And we'll talk down the road. Band. Thank you,
all right, Go hockey, Go dogs. Pat Sean with us
on the radio show. We're gonna break Lake and Tomlinson
Seahawks presumably starting left guard right, gonna join us coming
up from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center right here on

(25:42):
ninety three to three KJRFM.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
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Speaker 4 (26:02):
Big thanks for our friends at Northwest Handling Systems for
having us out here the Boeing Classic as well. They
did send an email out the Boeing Classic people did
today two thirty this afternoon. Final field set for twenty
four Boeing Classic. Miguel on how him and is Scott Dunlop,
Mark calcabecy E Bernard Longer, Billy Andreid kJ Choi, Ernie Els,

(26:26):
the Big Easy, Darren Clark, David Duval, Jim Furick, Tom
Lahman Moore. As of right now, Fred Couples is not
listed by the way in the field, and what I've
heard is that it's still possible he may play. We'll
find out next week. If he does get added, it'll
be like a late second thing for him. So let's
hope that does happen. But we're gonna hear from I
think see guard Lake and Tomlinson in a matter of minutes.

(26:47):
But before then, good stuff with Patch on day one
of the Big ten. How do you feel? Why do
you take a seat here on the couch, lay down,
close your eyes, take off your shoes and tell us
we should get rise of phelts to do like a
hole like you know, what do you call when you
just kind of do a whole h introspective whatever, like
the whole just break down mentally of the audience. How

(27:08):
do we feel now that we're the Big ten? Does
it feel weird you feel for Clemp that you're leaving
the PAC twelve, that the PAC twelve is no longer
you fired up because we've gone through all the stages. Man,
how do we feel after what we heard from Pat Shock?

Speaker 5 (27:19):
I think the first word that comes to my mind
is excited. I think the next phrase that I would
think of is basically what Pat Shun said, is that
we belong. I mean, Washington academically and athletically belongs in
the greatest conference in the country. And you can argue,
you know, if you're from the South, you argue this
SEC is the greatest conference in the country. If you're

(27:40):
from the North, you argue, the Big Big Ten's the
greatest conference in the country.

Speaker 3 (27:43):
But there's no other answer to that question, right, I mean.

Speaker 5 (27:45):
There is only two answers to that question, and it's
either the Big ten or the Sez.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
So we suppay that we belong. We belong from Pat Benattar.
But you asked about expanding the staff, what do you think, Well,
Jim Lambert brought that up like thirty years ago. Not
an original, no, But I mean, look, I mean, but
it's not like we're talking about it for thirty years.
It hasn't been brought up for a while. But Jim
Lambright mentioned that, you know, long long Lambeo had some
pretty crazy ideas about things you wanted to get done

(28:11):
over at you dubbed it never took place. And my
first reaction to it when you asked it is that, well,
they can't sell out the games they have now, so
why would they sell out ninety thousand seats if they
added that to the top of the west end the
mont Lake side, I guess. But then I thought to myself,
and I've thought about this for a while, that the
bigger the stadium is, the more intimidating it looks and feels,

(28:34):
and the more buzz there is inside there, and maybe
the more wins you get, the more people will show up.
You build a ninety thousand ste seat stadium, Dick, and
that just shows you that Washington is a bigger deal
than it was yesterday. If you add twenty thousand seats, I.

Speaker 5 (28:50):
Mean, if you see ninety thousand, ninety five thousand, I mean,
you become Penn State, you become Ohio State, you become Michigan.
And I think we all, I think we all aspire
to be that in the big ten.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
I mean that's the echelon.

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Like right now you're at the you're on the echelon
below that level. And I think Penn State might also
be on your echelon. I think it's a fairly a
comp but there's no question Ohio State and Michigan are
on the top echelon.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
And I would not argue with that at all.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
I think we're on the.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
Next echelon with the Penn States of the world, and
we don't want to stay on that eschelon.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
We want to be on the top of the top.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
And I and which comes first, I mean, obviously the
winning comes first.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
You have to get it to a point. The only
reason I was thinking about it a long time ago,
as was Lambright.

Speaker 5 (29:28):
Is because we sold out every stinking game for like
twenty years.

Speaker 4 (29:32):
I honestly don't know. Look I get again, I can
see both sides because what I said about the bigger
the stadium, the more intimidating it looks in, the more
buzz you get blah blah blah Beaver Stadium or Penn
State is it Beaver Stadium stadium they get one hundred
and six thousand people, Michigan's one hundred and seven thousand people.
Ohio Stadium is one hundred and three thousand people. Yeah,
but there's nothing else to do in those in those towns.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
And Pat mentioned that this being a professional stright city,
there's a lot of other games to go to.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
And I also I also think, by the way, I
also wonder, dick out loud, if there's gonna be more
people not going to games now than ever before because
of TV and things like that. Where more will more
people be staying home to watch these games on television?
And will you be able to sell those seats? So
I'd be totally cool looking into it. I can tell

(30:17):
you that right now. Something else I'm cool looking into
is our next guest playing left guard for the Seahawks.
Lake and Tomlinson of the Hawks is with us now
on the radio show for the very first time.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
How are you, man, I'm doing good. How you doing today?

Speaker 4 (30:30):
We're good. It's great to see you. Great to meet you.
We had your former teammate, George Fan from the Jets
obviously on the air with us the other day. I mean,
you guys just gonna follow each other around the country.
What's going on here?

Speaker 7 (30:41):
Big g Man, he's the man. I mean, he's awesome guys. Man,
I love playing with him.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
Talk about you know, I want to start with the
other side where you spent more than half your career,
the other side of the Seahawks Niners rivalry. Yep, I
want to start there. What is the Seahawks of Niners rivalry?
Like when you're a San Francisco forty nine or for
a half a time.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
Game man, Back in the day, Man, we used to
go at it, man, Like those games were like just
like gotta have the games, and you know, we'd come
up here in Luman and those were one of the
most hostile environments I ever stepped into. I'm super excited
to have that on the flip end, you know, But
it was always a battle. It was always one of
those games we were like, hey, this is a conference game.

(31:21):
We had come up, we gonna play the best ball.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Well, look at the schedule between you guys, and this
isn't your fault. Trust me, I'm not blaming you for
this because you're number one a lot bigger than me
and number two. It's inaccurate. But the Seahawks got you
guys a lot in those games down there. How much
did that just piss you off? Losening to this football team?

Speaker 7 (31:36):
Hey, man, like we know, we knew the revelry man,
and we we we come out here and you know
there were some there were some times you're going at
it and you know they Yeah, if you you're right
about that. They definitely had this when I was back
back in San Francisco. But I mean it is a
hostile environment. Yeah, coming here, you have to prepare different
to come play here.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Lake and Tomlinson joining us.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Another thing that jumped out at me when I took
a look at your your numbers and your career is
just the games played and the game started. I mean,
you're just always out there man, seventeen seventeen, sixteen, sixteen six,
And like, what do you owe your durability to?

Speaker 4 (32:12):
I mean knock on one, knock on it.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
There we go.

Speaker 7 (32:17):
Yeah, I mean, I gotta gotta thank God, thank God.
You know, they're just some times where you know, I
felt I was out there. I feel like, man, I
touch a bullet a couple of times. But you know, uh,
in the off season, I put a lot of time
and resources into my body. I try to exhaust every
resource that I have. And I mean I'm every day
I'm working doing something with my body.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
You look like it.

Speaker 7 (32:39):
I mean, geez, I appreciate it. But I would say one, definitely,
thank God. You know, I'm blessed, you know, have this
health and and too. You know, it's a lot of
work that I put into you know, my work.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Yeah, I put a lot of resources in my body.
Toots in the media room over there, we got you.
We got a maple bar, frosted the whole thing. Are
you a big donut guy? You like donuts? What's your mice?
By the way, because I know that you guys like
to watch what you eat a little bit, maybe let
yourself go over the offseason. But if you could eat
one thing and not worry about putting weight on, what

(33:16):
would that one thing be for you?

Speaker 7 (33:17):
I mean, you talk to a Jamaican that's right, that's right.
You have to be jerk chicken. I mean rice and
peace and jerk chicken. Yeah, I mean you would. That's
what I don't mean to Mary and my wife. I'm
just saying, wow, she can makee jrk Chicken?

Speaker 4 (33:30):
What hot?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Now?

Speaker 4 (33:31):
You you move when you were in two thousand and three?
Is that correct? To the States Jamaica? So you were
how old when you left?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Eleven?

Speaker 4 (33:38):
Okay? So what is what is American football about in Jamaica?
How much of the sport did you know about when
you're a kid growing up?

Speaker 7 (33:44):
I knew zero wow about American football. I mean you
talk to eleven year old Lincoln. You say football to
eleven year old Liacoln, He's immediately thinking soccer, right, And
you say football to a twelve year old Lacoln, he
would think that, oh, I can't play soccer anymore because
I just gained eighty pounds in the latter year. So no,

(34:06):
I didn't. I didn't know anything about football coming to
the States. You know, I came to the States, I
got big quick, and my mom ursered me to do
a sport, and my uncle recommending American football.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
So wow, I just did that.

Speaker 7 (34:19):
I just did it on a whim because I just
wanted to, uh, you know, make my mom happy.

Speaker 4 (34:23):
What's your uncle's name, Chris Wilson, Chris Wilson, Thank you,
Chris Wilson. Appreciate it helping four to five the Seahawks
odds right pancake people. We can thank Chris.

Speaker 5 (34:35):
Well, tell us a little bit about about your game,
because I think Hawk fans probably have heard of Lake
and Thomlinson.

Speaker 4 (34:40):
You've had a very good career.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
You were a pro bowler, your first round draft picks,
so you've you've been around and and done great things,
but probably don't know what type of offensive lineman are
you tell us about you know, your your strengths. Where
where do you think you really stand out?

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Man?

Speaker 7 (34:54):
I feel like I'm a player that can bring a
lot of power to offensive line. You know, every off season, man,
I'm I'm in the m twenty four to seven. Man,
I'm lifting getting strong, and that's one thing I want
to be. I want to be that anchor in the
left guard spot. You know when it comes to running
the ball. Hey, I'm always gonna say running behind me,
So I'm saying I want to be. I want to
be a freaking anchor. I want to be a freaking
moller out there.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
That's kind of my game. That's all I want to do.

Speaker 4 (35:16):
Yeah, well, you had Nathaniel Hackett last year as your
OC right with the Jets. He look at that smile. Yeah,
First of all, tell me about playing for him versus
playing for Ryan Grubb, Like, how different are the systems
that you guys ran in New York versus what you're
seeing now from coach grub Man.

Speaker 7 (35:32):
I love Coach Grubb, everything he's doing with the offensive
line and coach coach tough two.

Speaker 1 (35:38):
He's coaching those young guys a lot. Man.

Speaker 7 (35:40):
We got Charles, we got Olu, we got ab we
got top g doing everything, all the young guys coming
along as well. Everything that we're doing here, man, it's amazing.
And not only that is the way to teach the
young guys too, because obviously there's a lot of new
coaches in the building right now, but that communication is
the first key about everything that we're installing right now.

Speaker 5 (36:02):
Why was he asked about the Jets? Yeah, the quarterback,
I'm gonna ask about Aaron Rodgers. Now, you didn't play
a lot of regular season games with him. In fact,
you played like a quarter with him of a regular
season game, but you had training camp and everything.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
What's what's it like. He's obviously a polarizing character nationally.

Speaker 7 (36:16):
I mean, he's an obviously amazing player and MVP type player.
Obviously when he's on the field, he does amazing things.
And the way he tastes care of the ball and
operas the offense. You know, he's he's a hell of
a player.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
You know.

Speaker 7 (36:29):
Obviously what happened to him last year was very unfortunate.
And you know that he played whatever world he played
into what happened last year. You know, this is what
it is is football. You know, injuries happened. Yeah, and
this is one of the things you you know, you
got to prepare for, you know.

Speaker 4 (36:43):
So you'll be thirty two in February, Laking lacn Tomlinson
with us and look, I mean, you don't look to
me like a guy that is close to retiring. I mean,
you're starting all the time, You're you're kicking ass in
the NFL. But is there any part of you when
you get to how many years now was this in
the National Football League? Is is this eleven years now
for you, I'm on ten ten years in the NFL.
You think, you know what, I'm thirty one. I got

(37:03):
my health, Thank god. Is there any part of you
talking about and thinking about what's next after this is over.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
I'm I'm just going. I'm just going. Man.

Speaker 7 (37:12):
In my head, I feel like I can play as
long as my body allows, and if I continue to
be blessed with health and you know, continue to you know,
just come out healthy every season. I'm gonna keep going going.
You know, my mentor someone that I trained with in
the off season is Jackie Slater.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
You know he played twenty years legend yes as a tackle,
so you know when he's talking to me, I'm training
him this past offseason saying like, hey, Lake, and you're
a young pup. You're a young pup in this league,
and you should go out there and play like a
young pup because that's just who you are compared to him.

Speaker 4 (37:44):
Obviously he's like seventy years old, right, Well, thirty one
is the new twenty one. That's what I've been told. Man,
you look great, so fired up? Figure here, man, keep
it up and we'll talk down the road. Buddy.

Speaker 1 (37:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (37:55):
So appreciate Man Laken Tomlinson with us on the radio
show We're Gonna Break, We're gonna talk some Huskies because
today it was Day one for them in the Big ten.
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