September 24, 2024 • 22 mins
In the fourth hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain are joined by Grant Cohn of Sports Illustrated in San Francisco to ask what the heck is happening to the 49ers, then visit with Hugh Millen to break down what he saw from the Dawgs and Hawks last weekend.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now on the radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I really appreciate this guy answering the phone, because I mean,
he's got to have this figured out by now. We
only call Grant Cohen when there's bad things happening in
San Francisco. Nobody's calling Grant Cohen to go on the
air in Seattle when things are going well for the Niners.
When things are going poorly for San Francisco. We want
to have this guy on the air to tell us
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how bad things really are. And nobody delivers the bad
news better than the grim Reaper of the forty nine
or Press Corps. Our friend, Grant Cohen, How are you pal?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
What an introduction? I'm doing great?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How are you good man?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We're really happy with what's happening down there in San Francisco.
How concerns should you be about or Nighter fans should
they be about Christian McCaffrey going to Germany to get
his achilles.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Look that that doesn't sound good at all.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
No, it sounds like something you do to save your career,
not save a season. It's starting to look like we
maybe shouldn't expect him to play this year. But what's
crazy is like, even without McCaffrey, without Debo, without Kittled,
the offense has been fine. It's the defense that's just abysmal.
And they have this new coordinator, Nick Sorensen, who came
from Seattle. He was with the Seahawks for a very
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long time, and I think the reason the Niners wanted
him is because he was a return to the Pete
Carroll style defense which Robert Salah ran and Demico Ryans
ran and Steve Wilks didn't run.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And the Seahawks don't run anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And the Seahawks have the best defense in the league
and the Niners have like one of the worst defenses
in the league. So I think that's kind of ironic,
like the undoing of this team could be the defense well.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
And also you lose Javon Hargrave, so talk about the
impact that that makes.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He hadn't made much of an impact since he signed. Honestly,
he given him twenty one million dollars a year. He's
had like six sacks last year, so it's not great.
But he doesn't stop the run. He's not much of
a pass rusher. The defense wasn't good with him, so
it's not great. It's another bad omen. It seems like that,
like every two weeks something really awful happens with the Niners.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
This year, yeah, well so, Brandon, are you excuse me?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Throws this big fit over the offseason, goes through this
entire song and dance with the Niners. He's gonna get traded.
He wants out. They want him out, they want him in,
he wants out, he wants back. I mean, my head
was spinning watching all this nonsense. And now after three
games he's done nothing. He's got one hundred and twenty
yards receiving and has not found the end zone. I mean,
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how much heat is Brandan and you taken from fans
down there?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
A lot.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's embarrassing for him, it's embarrassing for the team because
they made it. Kyle Shanahan like famously ran into the
front office at the last minute like he was breaking
up a wedding, saying, you gotta bring this guy back.
And then all of a sudden, Juwan Jennings emerges as
one of the best wide receivers in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
He goes for one hundred and seventy five yards and
three touchdowns, and it's like.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Maybe if you had gotten more opportunities, you wouldn't have
had to spend all this money on a wide receiver
who really hasn't proven.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
That he's elite.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So there's that, and then there's the Christian McCaffrey thing,
and then the fact that Trent Williams missed all of
the offseason two isn't quite back to his usual form.
But other than that, it's okay. It's just that they
lost with the Rams. I mean, it's not great for
the forty nineer at this current moment.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Juwan Jennings is an interesting case because it's not like
he just got there. He's been there for a long
time and it seems like he's got a lot of talent,
so why hasn't he been used.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Sort of a roster politics Then he was a seventh
round pick and the forty nine ers are massively invested
in Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk, so they looked at
him as a third option. They even gave him a
nickname third in Juwan as if he's like only good
on third down, And it turns out that if the
two starters go down and he needs to start, he's
actually good all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
They gave him twelve targets he caught eleven of them.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It makes you wonder like, would the Niners have won
the Super Bowl if they had featured him and given
him twelve targets instead of six against the Chiefs, considering
he had two th thousand that game.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, Grant cones with us, and obviously the Hawks have
the Lions on Monday night. Niners will be here in
a few weeks on Thursday. And you know, Dick and
I were talking, you know, off the air about this
that I think both of us kind of thought maybe
the Niners would take a bit of a step back
this year. But is it possible that this is all
being accelerated that the window is rapidly closing for San Francisco.
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Brock Party's contract is going to have to be addressed,
a bunch of guys have their deals coming up. Is
it possible that at this point that John Lynch and
Kyle Shanahan have squeezed as much out of that turnip
as they can and that some downtimes are on the
way now for San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's absolutely possible. I mean, they have a good quarterback,
brock Perty's doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But Kittle's hurt, Deebo's hurt, McCaffrey's hurt ayukis have shuttle themselves.
That's the core of the team. Trent Williams is thirty
six years old. Like it doesn't it seems like they
got old very fast. I mean, you think factor in
that they've played like sixty games in the last three years.
That's like an extra half a season that other teams
don't play.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It makes sense that they would fall apart quickly, and
they haven't falled apart yet. But if you can't beat
the Rams when they have no Cooper Cup and Pokinakua,
I mean you could lose to the Patriot, That's who
they're playing this week. Let's see if they can actually
beat the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, and who will play quarterback in that game? Because
Perdi's day to day, give us an update on him,
and I saw you repost an SI call him saying
it might be better if brock Purty doesn't play this week.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Explain that, well, I mean, let's see if they can
get back to running the ball and not leaning on
him so much. But I mean, we don't know, like
we don't know if he's gonna play. He had an
MRI and they said it's.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
A back soreness.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, you and I have had Backsornis, we didn't have
an MRI, so it sounds like maybe it's a little
bit more serious than that. And if they call him
day to day, it means that they're not certain whether
he's going to practice on Wednesday. So yeah, like you said,
Skyler Thompson is a day to day with chess soreness.
It gives the team the option to sit that guy down.
So we don't know what the Niners are doing. I
mean so many players have heard. It almost feels like
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they're tanking. We don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Maybe they'll have to play this game with Brandon Allen.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And if they do, they should be expected to win
because they're still a lot better than the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, is Trent william still there? You still have him
right in San Francisco? Trade you Sam Howell straight up
for Trent Williams to solve your quarterback problem?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Are you in?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Say? Yeah, let's do it?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay? Done?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I love you, I love these deals all right, grant Hey,
when more miserable news comes out of San Francisco, we'll
be sure to give you a buzz and have you
on the EIR buddy, appreciate this, pal.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm here for you. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I love how he plays along. Man, he is not
an apologist for that team whatsoever. By the way, did
I tell you guys, I had to not just mute
nine or eight on Twitter, but also block him on
my phone at the same time.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Really, Oh, he was texting me here in the game
during anything. It just got Yeah, Sunday was bad. Really,
he was talking what just his Twitter?
Speaker 6 (06:39):
His Twitter, like the reactions that he had to the
Nights to La and the huge you know, cooging it
for lack of a better term that they did to
the Rams was exceptional. But also it was very much
so you can only take so much of him. That's
a perfect word I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, I'm saying, like, when they're winning and beating us
and he's rubbing it in, I'm like, dude, I haven't
talked to you for like two years, right, and all
of a sudden they get this random Bazar Like, what
the hell blocked the guy?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I mean, I believe you know, we were talking before
we got grant on and he kind of confirmed what
we were talking about, which was there is a reasonable
chance right that the Seahawks are ascending to the top
of this division and will stay there for a long
time because you just look where the other three teams.
Then the Niners, whether they it's not if they're going
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to decline, it's just when they're going to decline. Right
at this point, Kyler Murray's never going to do anything
special in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They're always just going to be.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Mid And then the Rams are certainly heading on the
on the downward slope. Everybody's getting hurt and they got
a thirty six year old quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, I just think we got to figure out the
Gino situation.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick Gone your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
All right, busy teos and I continues right here on
ninety three three KJRFM, and I have made an executive
decision here on the radio show boys, we got Friday
football five o'clock you dub and Rutgers from New Jersey.
Typically we'd be talking to Hugh Millen at five o'clock
on Friday. I don't know how Tony and Cam at
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least and the bosses would feel if we delayed kickoff on.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
The air to talk to Hugh on Friday.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I thought it'd be a good idea to get
Hugh on the air today and talk some dogs and
talk some Hawks before. Let's face it, two pretty big
games for you dubbing the Seahawks this week. We got
Rutgers on Friday, we got the Lions on Monday. It
enjoins us right now. Heree, how are you pal?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm doing great? Boys, how are we good?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Let's first of all, talk some Seahawks and man go
back to the game on Sunday. I was telling Dick
this yesterday that I kind of thought that maybe the
Seahawks would get a little bit of a bigger challenge
than the one they got from Skyler Thompson. Is this
defense really this good? Or are the quarterbacks they've really
been facing that bad?
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Well?
Speaker 8 (09:03):
I think we just have to put it on an
incomplete right now. We're gonna see, obviously, in Jared Goff
on Monday night, a far bigger challenge. But I'm inclined
to just pump the brakes now. All they can do,
obviously is play the quarterback that lines up against him,
and you'd say, all right, if you're going to play
a young quarterback or a journeyman quarterback or a clear
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backup quarterback, then you shouldn't just be good, you should dominate.
And I think that there's elements the numbers your eyeballs
tell you that they're really dominant. A lot of pressure
on the quarterback. I think that's going to play out
for most quarterbacks, although Tua Tagavaloa is along with Brock Purdy,
in my mind, the best at anticipation. I went back
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studied that tape carefully, the coaches tape. I think there's
a lot of plays where Tua would have got rid
of the ball where Skyler Thompson just doesn't have that
innate instincts. And so yeah, I would say, for the
most part, I'm not going to get really excited.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But I.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
Do give Seattle credit for doing what they should do,
not just good, but dominatingly good.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And that's what they've done. Let's talk about some of that.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
It cites It cites me, Hugh, And that's fifty eight
man uh five tackles, two sacks, four quarterback hits in
that game for Derek Hall. What are we looking at
potential wise from this guy?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Well, I just don't know, Dick. I mean, he was
part of that young group of a year ago of rookies
that Pete Carroll was uh, just reluctant to play. And
and uh, but we saw in him, you know, a
second round or they've been doing these second round you know,
Frank Clark's and uh Turner and and and what have you.
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A lot of edge guys in the second round. And uh,
you know this guy was early in the second round,
so you would expect there's some explosion there, some some
traits and we see it and and uh and and
that paired with Mike McDonald's ability to confuse quarterbacks can
hold the football by virtue of the schemes, not just
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in the back end because Vic Fangio does that, but
give a lot of disguises in the back end, but
also create a lot of confusion at the line of scrimmage,
something we don't see as much from Fangio. So Mike
McDonald's cutting edge in terms of trying to make quarterbacks think,
which translates to holding the ball, which translates to pressures
and sacks and Derek Hall is going to be a
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recipient of that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, let's go to the offensive side and let's nitpick
for a little bit. Okay, because the Hawks are one
of like what four or five teams in the NFL
whatever it is that are three and now I think
just two in the NFC with them in Minnesota. But
they've scored thirteen points combined in the second half in
overtime of the last two games against New England and
against Miami. I mean, you go to the locker room
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kind of thinking, man, the offense is humming here. Hell,
you leave the first quarter thinking the offenses humming and
then they just stall out. So when you watch the
second half versus the first half, are teams making adjustments
that the offense is having a hard time adjusting? Two?
Or are these penalties just killing any chance they've got
to moving the football?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Well?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I thought it was really resounding for Seattle. For the
entire game, on third down, the average distance to go
for a first down was fourteen point one yards. I
don't know if I've ever seen I mean, after that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Repeat that stet, repeat that number again.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
The average distance to go on third down for the
entire game was fourteen point one yards.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Good lord, I mean, you know, and there was I'm
going to give you six straight.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
These are six consecutive possessions by Seattle in the middle
part of that game, holding call led to third and
seventeen in a missfield goal. A sack led to a
third and sixteen in a punt. A holding call and
a fall start led to third and twenty two in
a punt. A sack on third down led to fourth
and nineteen on a punt. A holding and a false
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start led to third and twenty five and a punt
and a grounding for minus eleven. That's the equivalent of
a sack that led to a thirty twenty two interception.
So so I you know, I looked at at went
back and cranked up the nerd machine. Guys, and over
the last three season, if we can define this, a
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drive is when Gino Smith in the offense jogs off
the field from the sideline and that as long as
they have the football, that's a drive. The NFL has
another term called series. A series is it's very logical.
This is not difficult series of downs. So you know,
you get you get a first down on third down.
Now you stay on the field it's the same drive,
but it's a new series in the drives, it's got that.
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So that's the terminology series. So over the last three seasons,
I wanted to get the correlation. Ay, just what happens?
How do sacks and these offensive holding calls? How do
they influence a series in your likelihood you're going to
be seeing your punter in a down or two. Well,
over the last three seasons, there's been forty eight and
thirty five series in all these are all NFL games,
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all playoff games right up to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Please don't break down all of them. We might need
one extra segment. So in total, if on series where
there's zero sacks, your success rate defined as either a
first down or a touchdown, that's the only way to
have a success first down or a touchdown, you your
success rate is seventy four point one percent. Dick, write
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that down. Okay, that's what zero sacks. If you have
one sack in a series, your success rate drops to
eighteen point five percent. And for what it's worth, if
you have two sacks, it's down to five point nine percent.
All right, Now let's go holding. Not quite as bad.
But if you have zero holding calls in a series.
Let's just remember now series just first second or third down.
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If you make it to third down, seventy point seven
percent chance of success if you do not have a holding.
If you do have a holding, just a thirty nine
point seven percent chance. So Seattle was what was throwing
the double whammy. They were giving you a holding calls
and the sacks. And that's just going to kill an
offense when you have those that many third and longs
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to that extent. All right, here, we hang on one
more on the Hawks next segment, and let's switch to
the Dogs. Humelan rejoins next on ninety three to three
KJRFM Live from.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
The R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back
to Softie and Dick Gone your Home for the Huskies
and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
All right, final segment here on a Tuesday night Sati
dickon Hugh for a few more minutes. Don't forget Emerald
quin Casino for the Hawks and Lions on Monday night.
Get to see what Gino Smith does on primetime. Baby
absolutely and Hugh.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
We were fascinated coming in the season to see how
Geno Smith would do visa v Ryan Grubb coming in
and so far touchdown interception racial is not good three
to three, but the completion percentage highest of his career,
yards per attempt also highest of his career. So how
is he looking in your eyes so far?
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Well, there's a couple of plays, well more than a couple,
but I'll just highlight a couple where I see a
little bit of a conservativism in Gino. There was a play.
Now I'm not gonna nitpick, because there was a where
I grubbed. Design was a high low on the free
safety where you got DK running the post and he
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got Tyler running an intermediate cross route, and the safety
came down well enough that that ball had a chance
to go to DK in a touchdown. Gino turned it down.
Now he ends up getting an eighteen yard completion onto Tyler.
So you don't really fuss not.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Long thereafter on a boot play boot. You know, we
also seen the boot where Gino fake the run to
the left. He's a right and a quarterback he's out
on the edge, and those always feature somebody in the
flat an intermediate crossing route.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
It's really a weak side flood. So you got hot, deep,
intermediate and shallow.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Jackson, Smith and Jigba had lined up close to the ball,
and then he was running a high angle corner route
and he he was opened by three steps and Gino
had nobody in his face. He's out on the edge.
He ends up throwing in the flat for a two
yard game. Okay, great, second and eight, But I'm telling you,
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you got to crank that thing up and you got
to throw to JSN. And guess what the next play
is not second and eight. The next play is a
pat right and and and so there there's two. You know,
we don't have that long of a segment, but there's
too many times where I'm going back watching the tape
him going, hey, dude, let's get a little friskier on
this thing. Let's let's let's cut this thing loose. Because
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if we're gonna have the type of offense the Grub
had and what we saw, of course, you know the
offensive line, I get it, uh, but if we're gonna
be something like what we saw with Pennix, we're gonna
have to on those times where Ryan Grubb calls some
plays where where there's a chance, yeah to hit the
ball down the field.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
We gotta we gotta be here.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me switch over to the Huskies for the final
few minutes here, And I'm looking at the Rutgers depth chart, buddy,
for this game on Friday, and I'm looking at their
offensive and defensive lines, and I'm seeing upperclassmen all over
the place. They got a senior left tackle, junior left guard,
junior center, junior right tackle. They got a junior tight end.
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They got three seniors on their defensive line, including a
red shirt junior at defensive end. This game concerns me,
and it's concerned me for a long time because a
Rutgers experience on the line of scrimmage and the Huskies
inexperience in that regard.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean, I think Rutgers, we talked about it in
the summer, how they have a depth and I think
Ciano's really kind of trying to build something and he's
done it in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And for what it's worth.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Kirk herbs Street a week ago, think of how learned
he is about all of college football. He said, Hey,
my upset special is Rutgers going down to Virginia Tech.
He just looked at that matchup exactly as you describe it.
He just thought that that Wreckers had that advantage at
the line of scrimmage. So I think it's a big challenge.
Is the reason why the Huskies are underdogs. And and
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you know, I had said watching the first game, watching
that Husky defense said, I said, well, okay, that's that's
nice who they beat up. But just the eyeball, I
think somewhere there's a three hundred yard rushing game against
that Husky defense. I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I certainly hope it isn't Saturday.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
But I I've never been really overwhelmingly impressed with what
I see in that front seven and and and we'll
see how the Scarlet Knights, you know, handle things at
home in a televised game where I feel I feel
like they're juju. Remember in golf, Dave, when you're you're
handicaps dropping, and you love golf because you know every
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month you're you know, it's a little better, you know,
and then you know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You think you're gonna be a plus four.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Uh, you haven't realized yet, You're not gonna be a
plus four scart you know, Wreckers doesn't realize yet. No, dudes,
you're not going to win the national championship, but you know,
and you're not going to be a playoff team. But
they think they're going to be a playoff team and
they feel really good about themselves, and there's something to
that here.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
We got about ninety seconds left the game against Northwestern.
I mean, that was one of the more brutal offenses
I've ever seen play against a Husky team. And I'm wondering,
is this more of what we're going to see stepping
into the Big Ten? I mean, are we going to
see six, seven, eight teams in this conference every year
just have absolutely pedestrian slogging offenses.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Well, I think the just the reality of Northwestern is
they're not going to get skill guys. You know, the receivers.
The receivers were as bad as the quarterback this Saturday.
When when do you ever see Northwestern have receivers?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Right?
Speaker 8 (20:45):
And yet a lot of the Big Ten teams, Okay,
that'll be something we'll see again with just kind of
limited skill guys. But they kind of rely on their
corn fed beef dudes up up front kind of controlling
the game. So I think there will be teams, you know, Iowa,
something like the you know those type of teams, the
Wisconsin's what have you.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
They say, well, there's the there's so so at the.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Skills, but they got a really good line which North
of Western did not have. And maybe Rutgers fit that
description as well. So I think the combination of being
bad at the skills but also being just you know,
completely underwhelming dick in the trenches for Northwestern. I don't
think we're gonna see as bad as that, because again,
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I think they're gonna be better at the line of scrimmage.
But I do think there's gonna be a lot of
saturdays where we're just not wholly impressed with the battery,
to use a baseball term, I don't think the quarterbacks
and the receivers are going to scare us on a
lot of these saturdays.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
All right, man, great stuff. Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Enjoy the Dogs on Friday night, Huskies on Friday, Seahawks
on Monday. So enjoy your weekend doing other things besides
watching the Dogs and Hawks. Man, great stuff. We'll talk stuff,
hammerdown boys, all right, mellon with us. We'll get out
of here for a Tuesday night. Uh, don't forget tomorrow.
Petros Harlan Mike Florio A busy Wednesday as usual tomorrow
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with three right here on ninety three three kJ A
r f M.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We'll see you then. Bite. That was wonderful. It was great.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Well, there were parts of it.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
They weren't very good. It could have been a lot better.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't really like it. It was pretty terrible. It
was bad, it was awful. I was terrible.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Away this thing over yet
Now on the radio show.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
I really appreciate this guy answering the phone, because I mean,
he's got to have this figured out by now. We
only call Grant Cohen when there's bad things happening in
San Francisco. Nobody's calling Grant Cohen to go on the
air in Seattle when things are going well for the Niners.
When things are going poorly for San Francisco. We want
to have this guy on the air to tell us
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how bad things really are. And nobody delivers the bad
news better than the grim Reaper of the forty nine
or Press Corps. Our friend, Grant Cohen, How are you pal?
Speaker 3 (00:32):
What an introduction? I'm doing great?
Speaker 1 (00:34):
How are you good man?
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We're really happy with what's happening down there in San Francisco.
How concerns should you be about or Nighter fans should
they be about Christian McCaffrey going to Germany to get
his achilles.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Look that that doesn't sound good at all.
Speaker 4 (00:49):
No, it sounds like something you do to save your career,
not save a season. It's starting to look like we
maybe shouldn't expect him to play this year. But what's
crazy is like, even without McCaffrey, without Debo, without Kittled,
the offense has been fine. It's the defense that's just abysmal.
And they have this new coordinator, Nick Sorensen, who came
from Seattle. He was with the Seahawks for a very
(01:09):
long time, and I think the reason the Niners wanted
him is because he was a return to the Pete
Carroll style defense which Robert Salah ran and Demico Ryans
ran and Steve Wilks didn't run.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
And the Seahawks don't run anymore.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
And the Seahawks have the best defense in the league
and the Niners have like one of the worst defenses
in the league. So I think that's kind of ironic,
like the undoing of this team could be the defense well.
Speaker 5 (01:30):
And also you lose Javon Hargrave, so talk about the
impact that that makes.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
He hadn't made much of an impact since he signed. Honestly,
he given him twenty one million dollars a year. He's
had like six sacks last year, so it's not great.
But he doesn't stop the run. He's not much of
a pass rusher. The defense wasn't good with him, so
it's not great. It's another bad omen. It seems like that,
like every two weeks something really awful happens with the Niners.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
This year, yeah, well so, Brandon, are you excuse me?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Throws this big fit over the offseason, goes through this
entire song and dance with the Niners. He's gonna get traded.
He wants out. They want him out, they want him in,
he wants out, he wants back. I mean, my head
was spinning watching all this nonsense. And now after three
games he's done nothing. He's got one hundred and twenty
yards receiving and has not found the end zone. I mean,
(02:17):
how much heat is Brandan and you taken from fans
down there?
Speaker 3 (02:21):
A lot.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
It's embarrassing for him, it's embarrassing for the team because
they made it. Kyle Shanahan like famously ran into the
front office at the last minute like he was breaking
up a wedding, saying, you gotta bring this guy back.
And then all of a sudden, Juwan Jennings emerges as
one of the best wide receivers in the league.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
He goes for one hundred and seventy five yards and
three touchdowns, and it's like.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Maybe if you had gotten more opportunities, you wouldn't have
had to spend all this money on a wide receiver
who really hasn't proven.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
That he's elite.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
So there's that, and then there's the Christian McCaffrey thing,
and then the fact that Trent Williams missed all of
the offseason two isn't quite back to his usual form.
But other than that, it's okay. It's just that they
lost with the Rams. I mean, it's not great for
the forty nineer at this current moment.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
Juwan Jennings is an interesting case because it's not like
he just got there. He's been there for a long
time and it seems like he's got a lot of talent,
so why hasn't he been used.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Sort of a roster politics Then he was a seventh
round pick and the forty nine ers are massively invested
in Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk, so they looked at
him as a third option. They even gave him a
nickname third in Juwan as if he's like only good
on third down, And it turns out that if the
two starters go down and he needs to start, he's
actually good all the time.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
They gave him twelve targets he caught eleven of them.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
It makes you wonder like, would the Niners have won
the Super Bowl if they had featured him and given
him twelve targets instead of six against the Chiefs, considering
he had two th thousand that game.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Well, Grant cones with us, and obviously the Hawks have
the Lions on Monday night. Niners will be here in
a few weeks on Thursday. And you know, Dick and
I were talking, you know, off the air about this
that I think both of us kind of thought maybe
the Niners would take a bit of a step back
this year. But is it possible that this is all
being accelerated that the window is rapidly closing for San Francisco.
(04:06):
Brock Party's contract is going to have to be addressed,
a bunch of guys have their deals coming up. Is
it possible that at this point that John Lynch and
Kyle Shanahan have squeezed as much out of that turnip
as they can and that some downtimes are on the
way now for San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
It's absolutely possible. I mean, they have a good quarterback,
brock Perty's doing a good job.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
But Kittle's hurt, Deebo's hurt, McCaffrey's hurt ayukis have shuttle themselves.
That's the core of the team. Trent Williams is thirty
six years old. Like it doesn't it seems like they
got old very fast. I mean, you think factor in
that they've played like sixty games in the last three years.
That's like an extra half a season that other teams
don't play.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
It makes sense that they would fall apart quickly, and
they haven't falled apart yet. But if you can't beat
the Rams when they have no Cooper Cup and Pokinakua,
I mean you could lose to the Patriot, That's who
they're playing this week. Let's see if they can actually
beat the Patriots.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Well, and who will play quarterback in that game? Because
Perdi's day to day, give us an update on him,
and I saw you repost an SI call him saying
it might be better if brock Purty doesn't play this week.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Explain that, well, I mean, let's see if they can
get back to running the ball and not leaning on
him so much. But I mean, we don't know, like
we don't know if he's gonna play. He had an
MRI and they said it's.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
A back soreness.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Well, you and I have had Backsornis, we didn't have
an MRI, so it sounds like maybe it's a little
bit more serious than that. And if they call him
day to day, it means that they're not certain whether
he's going to practice on Wednesday. So yeah, like you said,
Skyler Thompson is a day to day with chess soreness.
It gives the team the option to sit that guy down.
So we don't know what the Niners are doing. I
mean so many players have heard. It almost feels like
(05:48):
they're tanking. We don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Maybe they'll have to play this game with Brandon Allen.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
And if they do, they should be expected to win
because they're still a lot better than the Patriots.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Yeah, is Trent william still there? You still have him
right in San Francisco? Trade you Sam Howell straight up
for Trent Williams to solve your quarterback problem?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Are you in?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Say? Yeah, let's do it?
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Okay? Done?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I love you, I love these deals all right, grant Hey,
when more miserable news comes out of San Francisco, we'll
be sure to give you a buzz and have you
on the EIR buddy, appreciate this, pal.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
I'm here for you. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I love how he plays along. Man, he is not
an apologist for that team whatsoever. By the way, did
I tell you guys, I had to not just mute
nine or eight on Twitter, but also block him on
my phone at the same time.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Really, Oh, he was texting me here in the game
during anything. It just got Yeah, Sunday was bad. Really,
he was talking what just his Twitter?
Speaker 6 (06:39):
His Twitter, like the reactions that he had to the
Nights to La and the huge you know, cooging it
for lack of a better term that they did to
the Rams was exceptional. But also it was very much
so you can only take so much of him. That's
a perfect word I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, I'm saying, like, when they're winning and beating us
and he's rubbing it in, I'm like, dude, I haven't
talked to you for like two years, right, and all
of a sudden they get this random Bazar Like, what
the hell blocked the guy?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
I mean, I believe you know, we were talking before
we got grant on and he kind of confirmed what
we were talking about, which was there is a reasonable
chance right that the Seahawks are ascending to the top
of this division and will stay there for a long
time because you just look where the other three teams.
Then the Niners, whether they it's not if they're going
(07:27):
to decline, it's just when they're going to decline. Right
at this point, Kyler Murray's never going to do anything
special in Arizona.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
They're always just going to be.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Mid And then the Rams are certainly heading on the
on the downward slope. Everybody's getting hurt and they got
a thirty six year old quarterback.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah, I just think we got to figure out the
Gino situation.
Speaker 7 (07:45):
Live from the R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio.
Now back to Softie and Dick Gone your home for
the Huskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point
three kJ r FM.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
All right, busy teos and I continues right here on
ninety three three KJRFM, and I have made an executive
decision here on the radio show boys, we got Friday
football five o'clock you dub and Rutgers from New Jersey.
Typically we'd be talking to Hugh Millen at five o'clock
on Friday. I don't know how Tony and Cam at
(08:19):
least and the bosses would feel if we delayed kickoff on.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
The air to talk to Hugh on Friday.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
So I thought it'd be a good idea to get
Hugh on the air today and talk some dogs and
talk some Hawks before. Let's face it, two pretty big
games for you dubbing the Seahawks this week. We got
Rutgers on Friday, we got the Lions on Monday. It
enjoins us right now. Heree, how are you pal?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I'm doing great? Boys, how are we good?
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Let's first of all, talk some Seahawks and man go
back to the game on Sunday. I was telling Dick
this yesterday that I kind of thought that maybe the
Seahawks would get a little bit of a bigger challenge
than the one they got from Skyler Thompson. Is this
defense really this good? Or are the quarterbacks they've really
been facing that bad?
Speaker 7 (09:02):
Well?
Speaker 8 (09:03):
I think we just have to put it on an
incomplete right now. We're gonna see, obviously, in Jared Goff
on Monday night, a far bigger challenge. But I'm inclined
to just pump the brakes now. All they can do,
obviously is play the quarterback that lines up against him,
and you'd say, all right, if you're going to play
a young quarterback or a journeyman quarterback or a clear
(09:23):
backup quarterback, then you shouldn't just be good, you should dominate.
And I think that there's elements the numbers your eyeballs
tell you that they're really dominant. A lot of pressure
on the quarterback. I think that's going to play out
for most quarterbacks, although Tua Tagavaloa is along with Brock Purdy,
in my mind, the best at anticipation. I went back
(09:45):
studied that tape carefully, the coaches tape. I think there's
a lot of plays where Tua would have got rid
of the ball where Skyler Thompson just doesn't have that
innate instincts. And so yeah, I would say, for the
most part, I'm not going to get really excited.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But I.
Speaker 8 (10:01):
Do give Seattle credit for doing what they should do,
not just good, but dominatingly good.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
And that's what they've done. Let's talk about some of that.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
It cites It cites me, Hugh, And that's fifty eight
man uh five tackles, two sacks, four quarterback hits in
that game for Derek Hall. What are we looking at
potential wise from this guy?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Well, I just don't know, Dick. I mean, he was
part of that young group of a year ago of rookies
that Pete Carroll was uh, just reluctant to play. And
and uh, but we saw in him, you know, a
second round or they've been doing these second round you know,
Frank Clark's and uh Turner and and and what have you.
(10:41):
A lot of edge guys in the second round. And uh,
you know this guy was early in the second round,
so you would expect there's some explosion there, some some
traits and we see it and and uh and and
that paired with Mike McDonald's ability to confuse quarterbacks can
hold the football by virtue of the schemes, not just
(11:03):
in the back end because Vic Fangio does that, but
give a lot of disguises in the back end, but
also create a lot of confusion at the line of scrimmage,
something we don't see as much from Fangio. So Mike
McDonald's cutting edge in terms of trying to make quarterbacks think,
which translates to holding the ball, which translates to pressures
and sacks and Derek Hall is going to be a
(11:24):
recipient of that.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well, let's go to the offensive side and let's nitpick
for a little bit. Okay, because the Hawks are one
of like what four or five teams in the NFL
whatever it is that are three and now I think
just two in the NFC with them in Minnesota. But
they've scored thirteen points combined in the second half in
overtime of the last two games against New England and
against Miami. I mean, you go to the locker room
(11:46):
kind of thinking, man, the offense is humming here. Hell,
you leave the first quarter thinking the offenses humming and
then they just stall out. So when you watch the
second half versus the first half, are teams making adjustments
that the offense is having a hard time adjusting? Two?
Or are these penalties just killing any chance they've got
to moving the football?
Speaker 7 (12:07):
Well?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
I thought it was really resounding for Seattle. For the
entire game, on third down, the average distance to go
for a first down was fourteen point one yards. I
don't know if I've ever seen I mean, after that.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Repeat that stet, repeat that number again.
Speaker 8 (12:26):
The average distance to go on third down for the
entire game was fourteen point one yards.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Good lord, I mean, you know, and there was I'm
going to give you six straight.
Speaker 8 (12:35):
These are six consecutive possessions by Seattle in the middle
part of that game, holding call led to third and
seventeen in a missfield goal. A sack led to a
third and sixteen in a punt. A holding call and
a fall start led to third and twenty two in
a punt. A sack on third down led to fourth
and nineteen on a punt. A holding and a false
(12:56):
start led to third and twenty five and a punt
and a grounding for minus eleven. That's the equivalent of
a sack that led to a thirty twenty two interception.
So so I you know, I looked at at went
back and cranked up the nerd machine. Guys, and over
the last three season, if we can define this, a
(13:17):
drive is when Gino Smith in the offense jogs off
the field from the sideline and that as long as
they have the football, that's a drive. The NFL has
another term called series. A series is it's very logical.
This is not difficult series of downs. So you know,
you get you get a first down on third down.
Now you stay on the field it's the same drive,
but it's a new series in the drives, it's got that.
(13:39):
So that's the terminology series. So over the last three seasons,
I wanted to get the correlation. Ay, just what happens?
How do sacks and these offensive holding calls? How do
they influence a series in your likelihood you're going to
be seeing your punter in a down or two. Well,
over the last three seasons, there's been forty eight and
thirty five series in all these are all NFL games,
(14:02):
all playoff games right up to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Please don't break down all of them. We might need
one extra segment. So in total, if on series where
there's zero sacks, your success rate defined as either a
first down or a touchdown, that's the only way to
have a success first down or a touchdown, you your
success rate is seventy four point one percent. Dick, write
(14:25):
that down. Okay, that's what zero sacks. If you have
one sack in a series, your success rate drops to
eighteen point five percent. And for what it's worth, if
you have two sacks, it's down to five point nine percent.
All right, Now let's go holding. Not quite as bad.
But if you have zero holding calls in a series.
Let's just remember now series just first second or third down.
(14:46):
If you make it to third down, seventy point seven
percent chance of success if you do not have a holding.
If you do have a holding, just a thirty nine
point seven percent chance. So Seattle was what was throwing
the double whammy. They were giving you a holding calls
and the sacks. And that's just going to kill an
offense when you have those that many third and longs
(15:08):
to that extent. All right, here, we hang on one
more on the Hawks next segment, and let's switch to
the Dogs. Humelan rejoins next on ninety three to three
KJRFM Live from.
Speaker 7 (15:19):
The R and R Foundation Specialist Broadcast Studio. Now back
to Softie and Dick Gone your Home for the Huskies
and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
All right, final segment here on a Tuesday night Sati
dickon Hugh for a few more minutes. Don't forget Emerald
quin Casino for the Hawks and Lions on Monday night.
Get to see what Gino Smith does on primetime. Baby
absolutely and Hugh.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
We were fascinated coming in the season to see how
Geno Smith would do visa v Ryan Grubb coming in
and so far touchdown interception racial is not good three
to three, but the completion percentage highest of his career,
yards per attempt also highest of his career. So how
is he looking in your eyes so far?
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Well, there's a couple of plays, well more than a couple,
but I'll just highlight a couple where I see a
little bit of a conservativism in Gino. There was a play.
Now I'm not gonna nitpick, because there was a where
I grubbed. Design was a high low on the free
safety where you got DK running the post and he
(16:24):
got Tyler running an intermediate cross route, and the safety
came down well enough that that ball had a chance
to go to DK in a touchdown. Gino turned it down.
Now he ends up getting an eighteen yard completion onto Tyler.
So you don't really fuss not.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Long thereafter on a boot play boot. You know, we
also seen the boot where Gino fake the run to
the left. He's a right and a quarterback he's out
on the edge, and those always feature somebody in the
flat an intermediate crossing route.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
It's really a weak side flood. So you got hot, deep,
intermediate and shallow.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Well.
Speaker 8 (17:00):
Jackson, Smith and Jigba had lined up close to the ball,
and then he was running a high angle corner route
and he he was opened by three steps and Gino
had nobody in his face. He's out on the edge.
He ends up throwing in the flat for a two
yard game. Okay, great, second and eight, But I'm telling you,
(17:21):
you got to crank that thing up and you got
to throw to JSN. And guess what the next play
is not second and eight. The next play is a
pat right and and and so there there's two. You know,
we don't have that long of a segment, but there's
too many times where I'm going back watching the tape
him going, hey, dude, let's get a little friskier on
this thing. Let's let's let's cut this thing loose. Because
(17:42):
if we're gonna have the type of offense the Grub
had and what we saw, of course, you know the
offensive line, I get it, uh, but if we're gonna
be something like what we saw with Pennix, we're gonna
have to on those times where Ryan Grubb calls some
plays where where there's a chance, yeah to hit the
ball down the field.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
We gotta we gotta be here.
Speaker 2 (18:00):
Let me switch over to the Huskies for the final
few minutes here, And I'm looking at the Rutgers depth chart, buddy,
for this game on Friday, and I'm looking at their
offensive and defensive lines, and I'm seeing upperclassmen all over
the place. They got a senior left tackle, junior left guard,
junior center, junior right tackle. They got a junior tight end.
(18:21):
They got three seniors on their defensive line, including a
red shirt junior at defensive end. This game concerns me,
and it's concerned me for a long time because a
Rutgers experience on the line of scrimmage and the Huskies
inexperience in that regard.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
I agree with you.
Speaker 8 (18:37):
I mean, I think Rutgers, we talked about it in
the summer, how they have a depth and I think
Ciano's really kind of trying to build something and he's
done it in the past.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
And for what it's worth.
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Kirk herbs Street a week ago, think of how learned
he is about all of college football. He said, Hey,
my upset special is Rutgers going down to Virginia Tech.
He just looked at that matchup exactly as you describe it.
He just thought that that Wreckers had that advantage at
the line of scrimmage. So I think it's a big challenge.
Is the reason why the Huskies are underdogs. And and
(19:11):
you know, I had said watching the first game, watching
that Husky defense said, I said, well, okay, that's that's
nice who they beat up. But just the eyeball, I
think somewhere there's a three hundred yard rushing game against
that Husky defense. I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
I certainly hope it isn't Saturday.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
But I I've never been really overwhelmingly impressed with what
I see in that front seven and and and we'll
see how the Scarlet Knights, you know, handle things at
home in a televised game where I feel I feel
like they're juju. Remember in golf, Dave, when you're you're
handicaps dropping, and you love golf because you know every
(19:49):
month you're you know, it's a little better, you know,
and then you know.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
You think you're gonna be a plus four.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
Uh, you haven't realized yet, You're not gonna be a
plus four scart you know, Wreckers doesn't realize yet. No, dudes,
you're not going to win the national championship, but you know,
and you're not going to be a playoff team. But
they think they're going to be a playoff team and
they feel really good about themselves, and there's something to
that here.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
We got about ninety seconds left the game against Northwestern.
I mean, that was one of the more brutal offenses
I've ever seen play against a Husky team. And I'm wondering,
is this more of what we're going to see stepping
into the Big Ten? I mean, are we going to
see six, seven, eight teams in this conference every year
just have absolutely pedestrian slogging offenses.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
Well, I think the just the reality of Northwestern is
they're not going to get skill guys. You know, the receivers.
The receivers were as bad as the quarterback this Saturday.
When when do you ever see Northwestern have receivers?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Right?
Speaker 8 (20:45):
And yet a lot of the Big Ten teams, Okay,
that'll be something we'll see again with just kind of
limited skill guys. But they kind of rely on their
corn fed beef dudes up up front kind of controlling
the game. So I think there will be teams, you know, Iowa,
something like the you know those type of teams, the
Wisconsin's what have you.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
They say, well, there's the there's so so at the.
Speaker 8 (21:09):
Skills, but they got a really good line which North
of Western did not have. And maybe Rutgers fit that
description as well. So I think the combination of being
bad at the skills but also being just you know,
completely underwhelming dick in the trenches for Northwestern. I don't
think we're gonna see as bad as that, because again,
(21:31):
I think they're gonna be better at the line of scrimmage.
But I do think there's gonna be a lot of
saturdays where we're just not wholly impressed with the battery,
to use a baseball term, I don't think the quarterbacks
and the receivers are going to scare us on a
lot of these saturdays.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
All right, man, great stuff. Enjoy the weekend.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Enjoy the Dogs on Friday night, Huskies on Friday, Seahawks
on Monday. So enjoy your weekend doing other things besides
watching the Dogs and Hawks. Man, great stuff. We'll talk stuff,
hammerdown boys, all right, mellon with us. We'll get out
of here for a Tuesday night. Uh, don't forget tomorrow.
Petros Harlan Mike Florio A busy Wednesday as usual tomorrow
(22:09):
with three right here on ninety three three kJ A
r f M.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
We'll see you then. Bite. That was wonderful. It was great.
Speaker 3 (22:17):
It was pretty good.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Well, it wasn't bad.
Speaker 8 (22:19):
Well, there were parts of it.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
They weren't very good. It could have been a lot better.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I didn't really like it. It was pretty terrible. It
was bad, it was awful. I was terrible.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
Away this thing over yet
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