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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There we go.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Oh now to goofy Waco out of touch Homers.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Just Beetle Radio.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
Just for the point, live forty one yards from Elliot Day.
Speaker 5 (00:12):
Can you feel it now?
Speaker 6 (00:14):
This is Softy and Dick.
Speaker 7 (00:17):
All right, yeah, three h three on a Thursday afternoon,
right here on ninety three to three KJRFM, as we
are having a funeral for a friend apparently courtesy of
our buddy Elton John. Sir Elton John, to you and
I by the way, and what better day to be
sitting about fifteen feet away from a bar. I'll have
one of those, and four of those and six of
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those man Mariners are done.
Speaker 5 (00:40):
Said this yesterday on the show.
Speaker 7 (00:41):
I think everybody was prepared for this, that the odds
were long, the chances were low, and if the Tigers
and Royals both won this morning and their respective games,
which they did, the Mariners would be eliminated by the
time you and I Dick went on the air.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 7 (00:58):
So welcome to Mariner Baseball twenty twenty four. No playoffs
for us in Seattle for the forty third time in
forty eight years, and we're talking off the year we
got these Bill Bird tickets to give away, plus a
night at the hotel by the way at the Emeral
Queen Casino for next Friday. For the fourth and Jackson
had a great idea. Use the talk back on the
iHeartRadio app. Hold that little microphone button down, record a message.
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If you could be in a room by yourself with
John Stanton and Chris Larson, and maybe you have representation
with you in case you get like you know, I
don't know, a little violin or whatever, someone to hold
you back, maybe a bodyguard, maybe your mommy is sitting
there next to you, maybe an older brother. What would
you want to say to John Stanton and Chris Larson
right now about the opportunity wasted by this baseball franchise?
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So hit the talk back button on the app, send
us a message. You can swear, you can drop f
bombs whatever you want. Jackson can bleep them out and
we'll pick the best two for tickets and an overnight
stay at the Emeral Queen Casino, Tacoma for the Bill
Burs show next Friday. So let's just go round the
room and just get some reaction. I was on with
a couple hours ago and kind of a little bit
of steam off. So I'm coming in kind of maybe
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ninety eight percent of where I would be. But what
are our thoughts on this Thursday afternoon, the symbolism of today,
a day that a lot of us kind of felt
like you felt more than me, Jackson felt more than me.
Maybe I was hanging out a little bit more than
you guys were, for sure, but all of us knew
the percentages that they weren't very good, and nobody can
be surprised by this.
Speaker 8 (02:24):
Well, I mean, I don't know. If I heard your
rant today, it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I don't share the emotion simply because and I don't
know if Jackson feels the same way when you bury
a team a month ago. I mean, it's tough to
muster up a lot of anger and emotion when the
team actually mathematically dies.
Speaker 9 (02:45):
Yeah, I'm different, Dick, because for me now the final
series means nothing. That's an added little boost for me,
at least.
Speaker 8 (02:54):
It's surprising to me. I'll tell you that. I mean,
as they didn't make it to.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
This, as negative as I was, and as much which
as I thought they were dead, I still thought they'd
at least be within three games of a wild card
spot by the last three games of the season, right right.
I mean I was I would have bet a lot
of money, so, I mean the fact, and they really
didn't get a lot of help over the last two days.
I mean it was looking, you know, they were getting
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some help over the weekend, and then the week started
and it just like Detroit said, no, we're not just
not right.
Speaker 7 (03:25):
Well, Jackson, I think what you said on Twitter is appropriate.
It's embarrassingly pathetic. Those are the words that you used
on on your social media account. And I mean, look,
I mean, Dick, I I understand your vibe. I just
don't That's not where I'm coming from. That's I mean,
I don't think this is you know, one's right and
one's wrong, or we can do whatever they want. I
just feel like when you know that something bad is
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going to happen and you feel it in your bones
like you have for a few weeks, probably Jackson the
same way as well, it doesn't make it any less painful,
I think, or any less significantly painful.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
That's a better way to put it for me.
Speaker 7 (04:02):
When it actually does happen, Like you pick up your
kid from school or you know that he's got a
big test which he didn't study four at all. You
know he's gonna know he's gonna do terrible, but when
he actually fails, you're kind of pissed off.
Speaker 8 (04:14):
Right, Okay, that's pretty You know, he's an an element there.
Speaker 7 (04:17):
When when something is coming, when there's a train wreck
about to happen, you can see the train wreck about
to happen.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
You know it's coming.
Speaker 7 (04:23):
But when it actually happens and that train smashes through
a building or run through fifty cars in a parking lot,
hopeing nobody got hurt, it's it's hard to take when
there's finality and there's symbolism of today, and I just
feel like if we were still kind of waiting for
a miracle to happen, which you guys know that I was, yes, right,
all of us knew the probability, well, we all knew
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the percentages of this whole thing.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
I was looking at him just like you.
Speaker 7 (04:47):
Were, But I wanted so desperately to see this rotation
of the playoffs, and I just thought, hey, if there's
a fifteen percent chance of that happening, and meaning if
they can get in, they could maybe do some marvelous things.
Speaker 8 (05:00):
They get there.
Speaker 7 (05:01):
I thought that was worth thinking about, and I did
think about it, and I.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Don't regret it one day at all.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
And I'm pissed off today, but I knew that there's
a chance i'd be pissed off today. I just thought
maybe this day would be on Monday, right, you know,
after the A series Jackson came to an end. So
there is absolute, you know, appropriate reaction happening all over
the dial today, on every single show, symbolism all over
social media. And now if there was a small fraction
of the fan base Jackson that was waiting for a
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miracle to join the Pitchfork crowd that's already out there
waiting outside t Mobile Park.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Now all of us are on the same bus.
Speaker 9 (05:37):
It's funny because I was on the apathy bus for
so long and I thought, all right, you know, everything
is gonna be fine come the end of September when
it's officially over, because I know they aren't gonna make it,
and listen, Safia'll al raise my hand.
Speaker 8 (05:49):
I was wrong.
Speaker 9 (05:50):
I thought I was gonna be able to handle today better.
Speaker 5 (05:52):
I'm so angry.
Speaker 9 (05:54):
Right now because the final and much more than I
thought I was gonna be because the final series means
absolutely nothing like and it's not anything that.
Speaker 5 (06:04):
I was gonna watch.
Speaker 9 (06:04):
I wasn't even gonna watch this weekend. And I know
I'm especially not gonna watch this weekend. I was I
wasn't even trying to care. But at the same time,
I told you guys, two days ago, I had walked
to the train platform, I was ready to put a
foot on the train, and then I decided to walk
home yesterday and still even just making that walk to
maybe get on the Belief train. And now like Nope,
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I'm just infuriated again at the embarrassing, pathetic nature of
this organization and the entire Jerry to Poto tenure, which
just continues to be a get your drop ready again failure, failure,
bleeping failure.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Well, I mean, it's not they put themselves in such
a bad position that we're disappointed right now, despite the
fact that the Mariners went eight and four over their
last twelve games, But they put themselves in such a
horrendous position that not only did they have to win
seventy five percent of their games like they have been
over the last couple of weeks, they also needed X
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to happen. Why to happen, and z to happen, and
none of those things happened. And I think the most
disappointing thing for me is to just sit here and
stare at the starting staffs eras and ask myself, are
we ever going to have a situation again where our
five starters started thirty three, thirty two, thirty one, thirty
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and twenty one games with eras of two nine.
Speaker 8 (07:31):
Four, three oh two three three, three, three, five, three
and three six about the is that ever going to
happen again?
Speaker 7 (07:38):
George Kirby fifteenth, Logan Gilbert tenth, Brian Woo six if
he would have qualified, which he did not, but six overall,
Bryce Miller number four, and Luis Castillo was sixteenth.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
And you could even find a way to get into
the tournament.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
Guys, the Mariners could not find a way to get Griffy,
Edgar A Rod and Randy to the World Series.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
Those are four Hall of Fame caliber players.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
Okay, they could not find a way to get those
four guys to the World Series. And they could even
find a way to get this rotation into the playoffs.
When more teams make the playoffs now in baseball than
ever before in the history of.
Speaker 8 (08:11):
The game you need to do to four.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
That's the pathetic thing is that baseball is like, Hey,
let us coddle you. Come over here, let us wipe
your tushy for you. We'll put your diapers on, we'll
put your training wheels on. We're gonna make this easy
on you. We're gonna give you the best rotation in
franchise history.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
And then at the same time, we're gonna make it
easier than ever to make the postseason. And they couldn't
even do it. They couldn't even do it.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
So, guys, look, like I said to Ian today, I
think that there really needs to be a lot of
reflection by the fan base and by the ownership group.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
And we're giving away this bill Bird tickets.
Speaker 7 (08:45):
On the talk back, we want to know what your
message would be for John Stanton, Chris Larson. My message
would be to John Stanton, why do you have this
team still?
Speaker 5 (08:53):
So you can't do this? You John, you can't do this.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
Like Dick, if there was something that I really thought
you weren't good at, I would tell you, yeah, right,
I said, Dick, you you can't do that, like you're
trying to bench press one hundred and drew and fifty pounds.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
Dick, you can't do that. You're gonna kill yourself. Get
off that bench. Stop it.
Speaker 7 (09:12):
John, Listen, you've had the team as a minority or
a majority owner for what thirty years?
Speaker 5 (09:17):
Now thirty plus years?
Speaker 7 (09:18):
There is he a party Amouchi and uh and joined.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
But he came in. He came in way.
Speaker 7 (09:25):
Yes, John, you've been here for almost the entire thing. Chris,
you've been here for the entire thing. Do you love Seattle?
Just play the part of Johnston. Do you love Seattle?
Of course, then sell the team. Then do us a
favor and sell the team because you can't do this anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:37):
You can't. You've tried.
Speaker 7 (09:39):
You've gotten more opportunity than maybe any owner in the
history of baseball without making the World Series. You can't
do this. You tried to do it. You can't do it.
It's time to let somebody else take over. Will you
sell the team and let somebody If you really love
this city and you love this region, and do you
want this fan base to get that chance, then you
should sell the team the period real quick.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
The three questions that I would ask you one, what
is your goal? And I'd want an honest answer. Two
is consistently finishing above five hundred with an occasional playoff
experience a success in your mind? And three, how do
you believe the fans view you.
Speaker 8 (10:11):
And the job that your friend office does.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
I would love to hook him up to a light
detector task and have him answer those questions, because I
really want to know what's in his brain.
Speaker 7 (10:19):
All right, three thirteen, we'll get back to this. Brett
Boone will join us at three forty five. Rick new
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Speaker 4 (10:24):
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Speaker 7 (10:54):
All right'd like to personally thank Rick Neuheisel for joining
us on the radio show every single week courtesy at
Taco Time, but more so today because he is allowing
us to get away from the Mariner conversation after they
were officially eliminated today from the baseball postseason for the
forty third time in forty eight years. So thank you,
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Rick for the unintended therapy that you're providing us here
on the radio station.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
How are you.
Speaker 6 (11:21):
Well the fact that we've gone this long in the
conversation without mentioning that I'm over this year, He's also
a pleasure that you have bestowed upon me. So we're
doing each other a favor here today.
Speaker 8 (11:35):
We're burying the lead there.
Speaker 7 (11:36):
I was specifically told to not lead with the negative,
and we will do that at the end of the segment.
But hey, oh and five is a great chance to
buy the dip. And I'm telling you, Rick right now,
whatever game you give us, I am all over it, baby,
I am all over it coming up in a few
minutes here. So before we get to all that, why
don't we just start with your thoughts on the story
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of the week in college football. UNLV's quarterback Sluca apparently
was promised one hundred thousand dollars verbally by an assistant coach.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Barry Odom says he had no idea.
Speaker 7 (12:07):
The un V collective says they were never a part
of it, and the guy says he never got his money,
so he walked away as the starting quarterback of UNLV
before October one.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
What do you make of this story?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
I hate the story, And at first glance, I was
mad at Matthew Sluca. I mean, you've come here, You've
bonded with a bunch of teammates. The team is three
and oh they've beaten two Big twelve opponents in Houston
and Kansas. It ranked UNLV's rank for the first time
in program history. So that to me, how do you leave?
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How do you walk out of that? But on further observation,
and when I was reading the story, I said, okay,
who promised him the money? He said it was an
assistant coach. Well, I said, I want to know the
name of the assistant coach. And now that's become public.
It's the defensive coordinator, a guy that's got a bright
light future in Brennan Marion given what Jade Mayava did
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last year. And obviously the reason they went and got
Sluca is because that kid transferred to USC. So now
I'm going, okay, he offers one hundred thousand dollars and
it's just a verbal contract, a verbal offer, but the
kid accepts the deal and comes and performs. So now
you've got consideration, you've got a contract, except that no
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one's gotten any confirmation from Brendan maryon what he did
or didn't do. And I'm sitting there going, if I'm
the head coach and Barry Odom in this case, i
want to know what Marian told this guy, because if
the kids tell them the truth, then I've got a
problem with Marion, unless I, of course told Marian to
tell him we could do that and they didn't get
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it done. And to me, it's a past the buck deal,
just like that Connors Stallions thing a year ago at
Central Michigan. We're going to get our people on it,
and it's a bunch of nonsense, and it also reeks
softy because of this UNLV right now as a school
is negotiating between the Pac twelve and the Mountain West
and looking for the best deal. So for them to
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turn on Matthew Sluca and say, okay, now you've not
honoring your deal, and Sluca having to leave because they
won't honor a deal that they did, they're doing exactly
what Sluka was trying to do and Sluka. If you
listen to he and his dad are only saying, Hey,
we want the same deal you offered when we came there.
It was one of the reasons we came to UNLV.
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It reeks and we have to have better standards in
the sport of college football now that we're paying players,
and I'm all for it. They deserve a piece of
this pie. But we have to have better standards so
that the college football fan and in this case, the
UNLV fans who have been starved, don't get screwed. They're
the ones getting screwed.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Oh, college football is rife with the park Chrissy right now.
There's there's no question about that. Rick new Heisel joining us.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Rick.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
The Huskies are getting zero credit for keeping Northwestern out
of the end zone last week, and you know, to me,
it was the first ever game against a Big Ten opponent,
and I think it's hard, no matter how the offense
is perceived on the other side, I think it's hard
to hold a team out of the end zone. Should
they get any credit for what they did last week
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against Northwestern?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Because not many people, including Husky fans, are.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Giving them any well, there's no question you get credit
for that, and it doesn't matter what anybody else says.
It's what Jed and that defensive staff due to those kids.
I know it was the first time or early starter
for Northwestern. The quarterback that started the season had been
sat down and they went with another guy. But the
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bottom line is when you shut people down offensively, that's
how you win games. And you add to that what's
going on on offense. With where Rogers eight touchdowns and
no picks and Jonah Coleman averaging six yards plus a carry,
you've got the makings of a good football team. I
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know everybody's still upset about the Apple Cup, but at
the end of the day, this is a good football
team and they have to be on this road trip
to Rutgers.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Well, for me, it's pretty simple.
Speaker 7 (16:21):
It's guys, it's one of those things where time will
tell they give up forty to Rutgers tomorrow then forget it. Right,
doesn't look as impressive, But if you shut those guys
down and you hold another Big ten team to maybe
a touchdown whatever on the road, then yeah, I think
the longer it goes on, the more success you have,
the better it looks Alabama Georgia to bor Kirby smart,
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first real big test for Klin de Borr in Tuscaloosa.
Speaker 5 (16:45):
What do you think happens?
Speaker 6 (16:48):
It's the first time Alabama's been an underdog at home
since two thousand and seven, which was Saban's first year. Wow,
they're a two point dog. I think they're the most
explosive team of the two. I think they have the
guys who can break the sixty seventy yard touchdown that
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usually are the difference in these kind of games because
the defenses are so good. Both these defenses have performed
really well, averaging less than giving up less than three
hundred yards a game both of them. So to me,
that's the difference. I'm picking Alabama in this game just
because they've got twenty explosive plays on the season and
Georgia has close to that number.
Speaker 8 (17:30):
Sickon in the same conference.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Why are Oklahoma and Texas appeared to be headed in
opposite directions? My God, that Oklahoma offense was horrible last week.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Well, this is probably unfair to Sark. This is probably
unfair to Sark because I don't know what they have
in their collective. But my guess is it's more than
Oklahoma does. And their deal to get Arch and to
get Quinn, which are too great quarterbacks both are you know,
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I mean art to say Arch is great given one
start is early, but in terms of his reputation, you
knew what it was going to take to get a
guy like that. And while the Mannings don't need money,
they aren't certainly going to walk away from it. And
he wanted to go to Texas. So the Texas lure
and the Texas money is bringing in guys like Isaiah Bond,
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like Silas Bolden, and a bunch of guys from a
year ago. I mean, they're getting what they want, maybe
more so than Oklahoma. Oklahoma banked on a kid by
the name of Jackson Arnold, and it looks like a
bad deal. They let Dylan Gabriel walk out the door.
You know, the coaches now on record are saying I
couldn't can't get him to stay. When I realized he
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was still thinking about college, he said he'd kind of
want to get closer to home. And who knows what
Oregon was doing in terms of involvement there, But at
the end of the day, they bet on Jackson Arnold
and for whatever reason, They've benched him in the middle
of the Tennessee game and now they're going to go
with the other kid, Hawkins. And if I'm an Oklahoma fan,
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I'm nervous as I can be, because this looks like
a botched, botched program.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
Yeah, well, Rick new Heisl's with us Friday night, sorry,
Saturday night, Blue Turf, Boise State seven o'clock FS one,
Cougar's in Boise.
Speaker 5 (19:22):
Cougar's win. There, maybe develop.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
One of the best games of the weekend, one of
the best games of the weekend.
Speaker 5 (19:27):
Cougar's win.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
They'll be five and zero, probably ranked, and they got
to think like this is the toughest test left on
our schedule, right in a run to maybe the twelve
team playoff.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Talk to us about the Coug's and the Broncos.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Well, h they're obviously wanting to be conference mats. They're
going to need someone else to create a conference. But
but the bottom line is this is a great game.
Genty has been brilliant. He's, as I heard somebody call him,
a rolling ball of butcher knives. I mean, when he
gets loose, he's he runs away from you. And when
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he's in affick he runs over again. The guy's a
really good player. And Mattier, the quarterback for Washington State,
is having a phenomenal year. He's already got over four
hundred yards of rushing as well as eleven touchdown passes.
So you put these two guys together on opposite sides,
it should be fireworks. And I hope it is because
those two programs deserve it. And I don't know that.
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I think Washington State could get to the playoffs as
a at large. As matter of fact, I doubt it
regardless of an unbeaten season. But boys, he can get
there by winning the Mountain West and being the best
and given their resume right now with the only one
loss being a narrow loss to Oregon, they can get
that done.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Hey.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
By the way, Dick, real quick, Chris genty guy after
three games is on pace for twenty three yards and
thirty six touchdowns.
Speaker 8 (20:48):
That's like.
Speaker 6 (20:50):
He's a preak. He's a freak. Yeah, he had six
touchdowns in the opener against Georgia Southern.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Rick, did you get nostalgic at all? Late on Saturday
night in Colorado? Won on a hail marrow?
Speaker 5 (21:02):
Harry Mary?
Speaker 8 (21:04):
What's that?
Speaker 6 (21:05):
University of hail Mary. I was saying, I got your text.
Oh yeah, I still confound it. You know. You know,
Baylor is coached by Dave Rand and David's been a
fantastic defensive coordinator for years and years. He was at Wisconsin,
he was at LSU, and that's what gave him the
opportunity to get in front of people and become a
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head coach. And just a few years ago he was
winning the Sugar Bowl. Baylor beat Ole Miss and Lane
Kiffin in that game. He has been upside down a
little bit as a program. There's pressure on him. So
he took the defensive play calling back, and on that
play they played man coverage. I'm still wondering when I've
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ever seen a hail mary that's over fifty yards played
with guys with their back to the ball instead of
seeing it up in the air and running over. And
then one free safety never got in position because because
Shadur ran to his left and the free safety didn't
go over there with him. Yeah, it's confounding that that
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play happened. But give the Buffs a big pat on
the back way to go, Dion, And now they're on
their way to Orlando to play the undefeated UC up nights.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
Yeah, well, I'll tell you what. It's hard to call
anything in September must win. But in the Taco Time
Pick of the week, this must win territory. Pal oh
and five after five weeks, and I am riding with
you no matter what this weekend.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
The question is how big a ride will I take
with you?
Speaker 7 (22:34):
So give us your Taco Time Pick of the week,
get off the schneid and get in the win column.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
What do you got, Well, let me just say how
apologetic I am to everybody who listens to me on
this particular program. I promise it's not an attempt to deceive.
I'm doing my very best. And so when you're in
a throws a slump, you just go to what you
know and what you know best. So we're going to
keep it right home. I'm taking the Washington Huskies. Give
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me the two points. We're going to Rutgers. I know
people are like, oh my god, he's on it. He's
on a losing streak and he's putting it on the dog.
I'm just telling you, the Dogs are going to win
this game, and Jet's gonna have a wonderful trip to
his home state of New Jersey. I can't even imagine
how many tickets he's having to get, but it's it's
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going to be a great trip.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Home, all right, I got it. Well, that's just double nerves.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
Man.
Speaker 7 (23:28):
You couldn't have picked some random game for God's sake
or whatever. But now we got the nerves of the
Huskies and riding the wave. All right, dude, great stuff.
We're talking away at.
Speaker 6 (23:36):
Me if it goes wrong, but it's not going wrong, right.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
I might try and find you after the game if
it goes wrong, like get into a car and drive
or wherever you are.
Speaker 5 (23:46):
All right, great stuff.
Speaker 7 (23:47):
We're talking a week see Rick, see you guys. All right,
he likes the dogs in the two and a half
against Rutgers. Let's get the factor fiction brought to by
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Speaker 5 (23:56):
Right now, we're set to go. Glad you're with us.
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Speaker 9 (24:30):
Do you go?
Speaker 8 (24:30):
Well, like Rick's Alabama pick but has been taken.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
I like Boise State, but I'm gonna stick with Guns
that we talked about on Tuesday. Dave, do you think
the Giants will score twenty or more points tonight against Dallas? No?
Speaker 5 (24:41):
I don't. If they do, Mike McCarthy might be fired
in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
If not, we're guaranteed one of our two bets to
come in and maybe both because the over under is
at forty five, meaning if the Giants score twenty or less,
we automatically win because you have Dallas minus four and
a half, right right.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
I will tell you this, though, Kevin Harlan talked on
yesterday's show about how piss poor this cowboy defense is.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
I understand this, So I understand that.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
But if they double mylak neighbors, there's no other answer,
all right, there is no other answer.
Speaker 8 (25:12):
There's no running game, there's no other wide.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
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Speaker 8 (25:19):
Home dog went under.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Okay, give me under forty five and a twenty four
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the Cowboy Giant game tonight.
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Speaker 5 (26:57):
Brett Boon. How are you pal?
Speaker 3 (27:01):
How are you too today?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Ah?
Speaker 5 (27:03):
Good? All right? Symbolism sucks.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
I mean we kind of knew this day was coming,
but to finally have it happen. I think there's a
lot of venting going on today. Put your old player
hat on. Man, what's the reaction? What's the atmosphere like
in that clubhouse? What's the atmosphere gonna be like tomorrow?
When the boys show up at the park knowing their
seasons done?
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You gotta find a way.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
You know, those are kind of the worst, the years
where you don't make it and you're playing a team
that's out of it.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
So there's really other than you have.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
To finish out the season. There's no reason to play.
It's like, okay, I can't spoil anything.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
You got to you got it.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
You just gotta find something. You got three to go.
You gotta play it out. Bittersweet, fans aren't happy, but
those are those are the that's the worst of the worst.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
That's the worst scenario.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
At least if you were out of the playoffs and
somebody was on the verge or we gonna make it,
you know, you can not him out.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
You got a reason to get up. But just this,
just playing it out is just kind of you.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Know, just just playing it out to get that one
sixty two win.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Not not going to be in a good move. Nobody's
gonna want to be there.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
But you got to find a reason, you know what
to you know, finish, finish, just finish. I got no
words because it's you know, I'm frustrated like everybody else, but.
Speaker 3 (28:23):
It's it is what it is. It is what it is.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Booney, It seemed like the last person in Seattle to
decide that Scott Servis's time was over was the guy
that made the decision, because everybody else wanted him gone
at least a week, if not.
Speaker 8 (28:37):
Two, three, four weeks.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
How much of a difference do you think it would
have made if Dan Wilson and Edgar would have gotten
in there even a week, if not two or three
weeks earlier.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Well, I don't know, you know me, I don't.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I don't put it on the manager per se, and
what kind of what kind of season you have. I
put it on the players. Players win, players lose. Managers
are are kind of there making decisions.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
Along the way. But I'm not going to put this
on Scottie Servis. It's it wasn't his fault. You know.
Under Danny, they've they've gone eighteen and thirteen, they've played better.
You know.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
I think when Service is dismissed, they were five hundred
and I think since Danny's taken over, they've done a
nice job.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
That could be for several reasons. You still have the
same personnel. You know, Edgar being down.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
There, he could have made a little bit of a
debt with with just wise words from Edgar him coming in,
given his his trials and tribulations. You know, maybe a
word here or word there from the right guy does
make a difference. But to put it on the manager,
the manager that was there, the manager, now, I don't
think that's fair. I think I think when the decision
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was made, you know, we talked about it and I said,
Danny's got nothing to lose, you know, just.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
Play likes well and see what happens.
Speaker 7 (29:49):
And they have.
Speaker 3 (29:50):
They played pretty good in five games over. Haven't let
the UH lit the world on fire.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
But at the same time, with this group of guys,
they've played better.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
So who wo to know? We could speculate. I think
they did the right thing at the trade deadline. I
you know, I was vocal in that. I think they
were as active as anybody. And what was available on
the market. It wasn't a big market this year. There
were no star power, there were no.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Big time difference makers UH that traded franchise at that
trading deadline for But I thought what the what the Mariners.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Did was was good. They were they were one of
the winners I had coming out of the trade deadline.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
And then Stanton goes and makes that decision which when
we talked about I think it was some backlash from
the fans and what he was hearing, it's like, no,
I want to prove to them that I really care.
He made the managerial change little too too little, too late,
and and the and the bad thing is it seems
like every year it comes down to this.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
That final weekend where hey, you know, if we just
do this and then.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
Disappointed, so got to find a reason to play those
last three and and move on and going to the offseason.
Speaker 3 (30:57):
And and that's going to be a time.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Or reflection through the people upstairs and what hasn't worked
consistently for the last twenty years, What do we have
to do different? I think, I think you've got some
guys that are going to be moving on, some free agents,
and I don't know, I don't know if it's time,
but that starting five, which has been so great for
that Mariner organization, maybe it's time that one of them's
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got to move on to get that big piece that
you need. And it'll be interesting to see how they
precede this offseason.
Speaker 7 (31:28):
Well, I think that'd be disgraceful to trade one of
those guys for offense.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
But that's what this franchise does.
Speaker 7 (31:32):
When they needed offense back in the day, they had
no choice but to move Paneda for Jeus Montero.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
That didn't turn out for either team.
Speaker 7 (31:39):
But I mean, we act like this is the thirtieth
market in baseball and we can't afford to keep Brian
wu Brice Miller, George Curriby, Logan Gilbert, and Luis Castillo.
So what we gotta go do is give up one
of those guys for a freaking bat. I mean, that
just pisses me off even thinking about it.
Speaker 5 (31:54):
But you you're probably rite Brett. In the end, that
might be what they do.
Speaker 7 (31:57):
But I mean you mentioned what's not been working consistently
for the last twenty years. How about really overall for
the last fifty forty three of forty eight. I mean
your two thousand and one two thousand team. That's the exception,
not the rule for this franchise. Outside of ninety five
to two thousand and three, I mean, everything else has
been a complete turd. Why why is this franchise so
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inept right?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And I think with the early two thousands, you caught
lightning in a bottle. I think those that ninety five
team caught lightning in a bottle, right personnel, right time.
I think in the early two thousands of Pat Gillick
in a loop panella and it just the right cast
of characters at the right time, you know, caught lightning
in a bottle and made it exciting.
Speaker 3 (32:44):
In that city. We all know how that city is.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
It's a baseball town as much as it's you know,
because we haven't had much to cheer cheer about because
the lack of going to the postseason.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
It truly is a baseball city.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
I'd love for the rest of the country to get
to see what Seattle is like when you consistently, if
if it ever gets that point where you consistently go
to the postseason. Until then, you're not going to truly
see what what we see. Uh, you know, me having
lived there in the area, you guys have seen the
postseason and the.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Atmosphere and what it's like. I don't know. I think
it's a culture thing, and I've talked about this a lot.
I think you've got.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
To create a winning culture when when players gather for
spring training and they walk through those doors in spring training,
it's Hey, it's not a matter of if we're getting
to the playoffs. It's how far are we going to
go in the playoffs? We have a chance to win
a World Series this year.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Other franchises have captured that winning culture. Yeah, of course
you've got to have.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
The players, but you got to have that mindset when
you go not oh is this the year we.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Make the playoffs? You know that that that gets.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Real old, real quick, And unfortunately for the city of Seattle,
that's what it's come down to, and and fans take
on that.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
That thought process of oh, is this the year we
make it to the playoffs?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Well, it's the easiest time it's ever been in the
history of baseball to make it to the playoffs. They
shouldn't be for a city like Seattle with with you know,
and I'm not the CEO. I don't know their financial restraints,
but I know they're not one of.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
The poor teams in Major League Baseball. So it's just
a matter of creating that culture.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Is Dan Wilson and the and the Trek forward going
to create that culture? I think, Dave, I've got nothing
but positive things to say about Dan Wilson.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
I think he's a good man. I think he's a
good baseball man.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
He's a man of a principal, and he's a man
of character, and he knows the game.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
So hopefully this is a.
Speaker 1 (34:36):
Sign of things to come, as you know, with Danny
taking the helm of that team to create that winning culture.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Do you see Edgar maybe coming back next year? He says,
he's been teaching an eighty percent swing and and Brett,
this team has scored more runs in September than any
team in the American League. They got a higher ops
than any team in the American League. Can can we
just bottle this thing up and move it on to
next you're offensively?
Speaker 1 (35:02):
I think I think you're gonna have to You're gonna
have to do some course and I think to get Edgar,
you know he's at that.
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I remember talking to him at the beginning. He said, yeah,
I've agreed to do it for the rest of the season,
and who.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Knows, maybe that that wakes something up inside of Edgar, going, hey,
I think we've got some here with this group and
they're starting to really take on some some some core
things that he believes. Believe me as a player coming
to Seattle later in my career, Edgar was and we've
we've talked about it on the show. Edgar was a
huge mentor of mine and really taught me how to
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think through the game, think through the bad, not the
x's and oh it's not the our swings. We didn't
set up the same. Uh, it wasn't the physical, but
it was the thought process.
Speaker 3 (35:44):
He's really good at that.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
He helped me a lot, and I know if he
can help me, he could help those players.
Speaker 3 (35:49):
So it's gonna be up to him.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
But maybe winning and seeing some like you said, highest
ops for September, seeing results like that, maybe that that
that gets that fire burning for Edgar And maybe this
is the beginning, and so maybe he will come back.
I haven't talked to him since then, so I have
no idea. But from an offensive standpoint, it has been positive.
Julio's got it going as hot as you could be
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the last week or.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
So, finishing with some decent numbers. So who knows, who
knows what that's gonna who.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
We're gonna spark it Edgar to see if he continues
to be on that coaching staff.
Speaker 7 (36:22):
Yeah, well, let's let this marinate for a little bit.
We'll get you back on once the offseason comes around.
Talk about some changes. Who you want to bring back
who you don't want to bring back. Blah blah blah.
So just let this thing settle down, go break seventy
and we'll talk soon.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Man.
Speaker 7 (36:37):
All right, buddy Express, we got a guy. Thank you,
all right, man, appreciate it. Brett Boone with us courtesy
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