January 6, 2026 • 21 mins
For the one segment of the fourth hour, Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain react to the breaking news that Washington quarterback Demond Williams is going into the transfer portal and leaving the school, plus get the instant reaction from Hugh Millen with them.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's now multiple reports that Husky quarterback DeMont Williams is
going to enter the transfer portal with a no contact designation.
I'm hearing rumors of LSU by the way for him.
So we'll see what happens with Demon Williams. But there
was a report that came out a couple days ago,
and I don't know if the Huskies confirmed this or
not on their social media channels, that Demon had signed
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a new deal that was this stay at Washington. So
if he signed a new deal to stay at Washington,
apparently signing a deal means jack squat in college football.
And this is exactly what I was afraid of.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I was afraid of Jetfish leaving and taking Demon Williams
with him. But I was afraid that somebody would step
up and pay DeMont Williams more than what you Dubb
could offer. I don't know if he's leaving for money.
I don't know if he's leaving for a better situation
around him.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
This story is just breaking right now, but obviously it's
very frustrating for Husky football fans. Demon Williams so we
all thought and believe, has a chance to be a
very special player, if not a superstar, is in the portal.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And to me, this just.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Backs up this idea and this conversation that we've had
before on this radio station, Dick, that you can predict nothing,
you can assume nothing in college football, anything you can
imagine in college football is on the table, and nothing
should be dismissed. Coaches leaving after a year, players leaving
after a year, star players taking off for other programs.
(01:23):
I don't think we are in the business now in
this game of dismissing anything in any opinion by anybody
anymore ever, until they get this thing straightened out and
figured out and under control. There were people out there
who would tell you Demon Williams never leaving you, that'll
never happen. Well, god freaking what it may have just
taken place. So I don't want to hear any more
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about people shutting down other people's thoughts on what could
potentially happen in college football, because anything can happen in
college football. This is ridiculous, absolutely effing ridiculous that a
guy like Demon Williams is leaving Washington to go play
for somebody else for what for money?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
This is one of the biggest markets in the.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Country, for God's sakes, one of the wealthiest counties in
the world, for crying out loud. Now, we're gonna lose
our quarterback to somebody else because of cash. Really, So
that's the story. Now that just came down that Demond
Williams is in the portal really.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Quick demand Williams has posted on Instagram as of a
few minutes ago, and that is confirmed. I could read
the whole statement, but I will say this, yeah, yeah, First,
I want to thank everybody in the Washington program for
everything they have done for me. I'm grateful for the
opportunity to be a part of Husky Nation. It goes
on and on, but he finishes by saying I have
to do what is best for me and my future.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'm gonna say something here that I'm gonna regret, by
the way, probably at some point f him. Okay, Honestly,
there's no freaking loyalty left in college football whatsoever. This
is a one year proposition for every single one of
these guys. And this is why people have a hard
time falling in love with players. Now, that's why they
have a hard time following the game and giving a
crap about the kids, because nobody in this game has
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any loyalty whatsoever. You dubb paid DeMont Williams a lot
of money when he was here for the two years
he was here, and I was turning around and taking
off to go play for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So f him, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Give a crap if he's nineteen twenty or twenty one.
Why should I give a damn about you as a
player when there's a pretty damn good chance you won't
give a damn about me as a football fan.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So the hell of a man, Honestly, Dick, screw him.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I only care about the players that have the gold
helmets in the purple.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Jerseys for today.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
That's all for today, Yes for six today, And if
you don't want to play for Washington, Honestly, after the
first ten seconds of shok war off.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
For me, I was immediately into the portal.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I want to see who my quarterback is going to
be for next year, and I want to see can
I come up with a better quarterback than Demon Williams.
And there's a quarterback out there that is a lot
better known nationally than Demon Williams. And now Washington has
got a hell of a lot of money to pay
a quarterback because they're not paying DeMont Williams money and
it's Sam Levitt. Sam Levitt was going to LSU. That
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was the speculation. Sam Levitt was going from Arizona State
to LSU. Well, if Demont's going to LSU, then Sam
Levitt's not going to LSU.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well again, I mean there's going to be a lot
of people competing for Sam Levitt, There's no question about that.
And now Washington's got to be the one team to
get him. And could we argue that he's an upgrade
over Demon Williams. I mean, he was hurt a year ago.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have no.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Idea what his injury situation is going to look like
and how Sam Levit's going to bounce back. He's a
different player than Demon Williams. I'm just telling you right now.
I was excited for DeMont Williams for next season. I
was excited for what this guy could do in the
system for the third year in a row with the
same offense and the same play caller and the same
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head coach. And now that guy is gone and you
have lost that now with Demon Williams. Either way, you're
starting over either way, you're going to be bringing in
the commodity that you don't know how that guy is
going to perform. You don't know how he's gonna make
with Jedfish, you don't know how he's gonna mix with
the rest of this offense. So I am I am
as of right now. I gotta be honest with you.
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I am on freaking def Con one. I am freaking
pissed off right now. I'm pissed off at college football.
I'm pissed off at Washington, I'm pissed off at Demon Williams,
and I'm kind of pissed off at Jetfish as well.
For this entire situation, this is insane. All we've been
talking about is these guys being here for a year
and showing no loyalty whatsoever. We got dudes that are
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hitting the portal before the seasons even over Dick and
committing to other teams before their old team's years even
come to an end.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Tell me they're about nuts.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Because I think Jetfish has shown no long term loyalty
to this program whatsoever. Why shouldn't they players show any
loyalty to him when nobody has any idea what he's
doing from year to year. He took the guy forever
to even give us a semblance of him sticking around
here after this season.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
He could have shut this thing down months.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Ago the way Dan Lanning did at Oregon, and he
didn't do it. Part of it is his resume, which
he's got to accept, that's his background.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But and maybe it's partly our fault, Dick, to be
honest with you as media people, that ever since Jedfish
showed up here, all we've done is talk about him
less exactly right, But I think that resonates.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It does resonate, and we had this conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I'm also very emotional right now and I'm very pissed
off of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
To be honest with you, we had.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We had this conversation with Hugh while you were gone,
and I asked, I asked you. I was like, it
are we being fair to Jedfish for the exact reason
you presented.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Ever since we.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Walked he walked in the door, we've been like, well,
you're not sticking around so you know, yes, part of
it is him not stepping up and saying I am
staying beyond a shadow of it out here.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I'm staying.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But part of it is us from saying from the
second he walked in the door, well, what's the over
under on Jedfish? Stay two and a half years? Yes,
and now he's gonna be here for more than two
and a half years.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, but it's not just us that are saying that, Dick.
This is not a softy Dick and Jackson phenomenon the
entire media. Corey and I just again, this is the
Jetfish thing is a small part of this. I just
think when you throw all of it, if you're making
a salad and you throw all of this into a
big bowl, Jetfish's long term future at Washington, whether it's
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his fault or not.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The optics, right, Delon Williams, the.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Portal era of college football, anil all of this stuff,
And I guess I'm just look, you may be very right, Dick,
that the Huskies may be better off at some point,
they may get a better option at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Let's see what happens.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's not a lot out there, but if they get
one of them, not.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
A lot out there, but we'll see.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's just I mean, I've said before on this show,
wake me up when the roster is built, and then
I can talk about what the Huskies are going to
be because I got no frickin idea what the roster
is going to look like. I do know this that
the portal has been a little slow to bear fruit
for you dubbed this time or versus a year ago.
It felt like at this time last year they were
much further ahead than where they.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Are right now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm just I am so done with the lack of
loyalty in college athletics, basketball, football, the whole thing. Okay,
you want my money, you want my time, you want
my energy, and you want my commitment, then you give
me the same, you give me the same, and I'm
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not getting any of that from these kids.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I don't care if they're eighteen or twenty three years old.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It doesn't matter to me, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I am sick and fricking tired of the lack of
loyalty in this sport. And we just saw it, kick
you dub right in the balls tonight with Demn Worrie.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I think I've I've decided since the beginning of this
nil era, I got to be either in or out
on the Washington Husky football program, and I've decided to
be in, and so by deciding to be in, I
have told myself, listen, I can't worry about anything that
I can't control. All I can worry about is going
to the games every week and rooting for whatever guys
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are in the gold helmets and the purple jerseys. And
that saves me a hell of a lot of angst
on days like this. So whoever shows up in the
purple jerseys and the gold helmets in September, I will
be in my seat and I'll be.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Rooting for that team.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, I just again, I appreciate that, but I also
think for me. Of course, you'll be rooting for the
guys while they're here. But there's no part of me
when September starts that will assume anybody's coming backs right,
not one player that's right the next season. I don't
care who they are. I don't care how good they are.
I don't care how much money they're being made. I
don't care how much we kiss our ass. I don't
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care how big a star they are, how big a
name they are. Every single year, when the season starts, yes,
we'll be there on game day, rooting like mad for
these guys. But I am approaching every college football season
as a one year entity. Every single year, the entire
roster for all I care could be blown to bits
over the offseason the next year.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And I think that's the general problem now that you
kind of spell out, is that you're going to have
a large portion of the fan base who may have
given money and say, listen, if we can provide the
money and if we can donate, we will be able.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To buy that loyalty.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And if there was one guy who we think we
could have boughten the loyalty of it's our starting quarterback
who stayed with Fish, who came here because of Fish,
and Fish stayed here, we go. And now that that
loyalty is torn up, it sort of erodes any belief
that your money can buy that loyalty.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's gone.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So at this point, like effort for an average shoe
sports fan who can say, all right, I'll put fifty
bucks a year towards you dub that person now says,
but what's that fifty bucks gonna do?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
My players aren't staying totally. Well, there was a guy,
I don't know who it was. Somebody came out today,
some booster who said exactly that, like, Okay, if you're
gonna lock in for four years and I'm gonna watch
you develop, great, then great. Yeah, but why would I
give you three million dollars as an eighteen year old
nineteen year old when I'm gonna have my guy coach
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you up and then somebody else is going to reap
the rewards of your coaching somewhere else and year three
or year four, And that's exactly what may have just
happened at Washington.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But don't you think it's time to fight fire with fire?
And yeah, I mentioned Sam Levitt, Well he's available. Guess
who else is available? Every other starting quarterback in college
football is evented. Yes, you can have whoever you are,
So go freaking get who you want right now and
see if you can upgrade over to Mont Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, if Demon Williams did leave because of money, and
again we don't know exactly why he left, but if
he did leave because of money, if they can't afford
to pay DeMont Williams, what makes you think they'll be
able to pay for an upgrade to Demon Williams.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Well, they can pay for a guy that's close to him.
On who ends up having a better season than Demon.
That happens all the time. Look in the.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
NFL, I mean, twenty seven million dollar quarterbacks and Sam
Darnold have better seas than fifty five million dollars quarterbacks
in brock Purty.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, they also could end up with a worse quarterback
for the same amount of money or more money. I
mean again, all of those possibilities are on the board.
And this is what I'm talking about. You know, I
don't want to dismiss anything again in this day and age,
in this era in college football, Losing a quarterback that
you never thought you'd lose is on the table. Losing
a guy because you can't afford to pay him is
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on the table. Getting a guy out of here and
then replacing him with a much worse option for more
money is on the table. Getting a guy who's a
better quarterback for less money is on the table. Anything
that you can imagine is possible in college football.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Anything. Do we have Hugh by the way ready to go?
Not yet? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, the news again coming down multiple reports now when
Demon Williams himself has made a post on Instagram, I
don't really want to read this whole thing because I
really don't give a crap what comes out of his mouth,
but he is basically confirming that he is taking off
and leaving Washington.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Has to do what's best for me and my future.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
After much thought and prayer, I will be entering the
transfer portal. Screw him, Honestly, you're not a dog. The
hell with you. You're not with us here against us. Okay,
that's exactly you want to come here for two years
as an eighteen year old one hundred and seventy pound
quarterback and start in the second half of your freshman year,
get handed the job, handed face of the pro and
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the job before you even got to fall camp the
next year.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Jedfish. The one thing I will give Jedfish credit for.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He bent over backwards and kissed this guy's ass at Washington,
and look what it just did for him.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I have a trade must fish Field right now.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It just completely backfired. I think he feels totally betrayed.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But again, I just wonder how much of this is
about Jedfish's future.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I mean, you would think that that the demand Williams
thing maybe would not be impacted by Jed's future as
much as maybe somebody else on the roster, Dick, because
demands in year three now and not your two, right,
But I just would.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Be gone probably after next year anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I do wonder if he's a little bit disheartened by
the lack of movement in the portal to go out
and get him some help at wide receiver, tight end
places like that. I got no idea out of Mohammed
took off and went to play for California.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I just think the majority of my angst is towards
the system. But I'm really, really, really just completely done
with this lack of loyalty, and I don't really give
a damn where to Mont Williams ends up from what
he does, all right, humullin's with us, Hueye, you caught
us in a very emotional time, my friend. To Mont
Williams and the portal, your thoughts go.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Well, I just think that we're it's clear evidence of
this tectonic shift in this structure of college football. And
just for a minute, if I can just amplify my
thoughts on that the very first game in college football
was Princeton Rutgers back in eighteen sixty nine, and somewhere,
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and from there the Ivy League schools. Let me say again,
Ivy League schools, they were the most first prominent conference
in football. Somewhere there had to be discussions by academics
like what values, Why should we have a football team
attached to a university, And the thought was, well, there
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are values that are to be learned in sports, in
competitive sports that are consistent with the mission statement of
a university. Now fast forward here and think of the evolution. Now,
it's just it's a big business in a way that
nobody could have ever ascribed to the academic enterprise and
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the real mission statement of a university. So these guys
are attached. The whole reason why we watch minor league
football is because somehow, in these increasingly weakened ways, they
are attached to our school. And we are just seeing
over and over again, whoa there, No, they're not attached
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to the school. We don't, you know, I mean these guys,
you know, maybe an ongline class here or there, they're
not really many times not really real students. And now
you know it's just their higher guns. They're mercenaries. And
I don't really hate you know, it's the hate the
player the game, not the player. This is what has happened.
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We have this this odd pairing where we have amateurism
that has existed for one hundred and sixty years in
college football, and then the courts, the Supreme Court, by
a rule of nine nothing, they're saying no amateur smamish.
These guys are the labor. They are entitled by anti
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trust laws to have the freedom. And I think this, don't.
I think there's a lot of people when they were
twenty or twenty one years old, if they had had
the freedom to go make millions and better there's situation
whatever in industry you are, think back when you were
twenty one. I mean, Dave, you've had there's competitors, Dick,
you know, in your market everything. I think a lot
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of people would do what they did. So this is
what we have. It's just this this strange nexus of
the enterprise of college football in a society that has
anti trust laws for over one hundred years, and that
nexus is exactly what leads to this. Now that's kind
of my overview. As for Demon Williams, Yeah, look, there's
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no there's no guarantee.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know, I've said this.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
This is not a new take from me on kJ R.
He has he has yet to prove that he's anything
more than Derry and Thompson Robinson.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean who won.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Well, he has talked about it agnauseum over the last
three or four weeks since the last Husky game. Is
that Demon Williams has not performed at all against the
best players and Hugh has gone.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He was probably gonna give those stats.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
There has the biggest gap between how somebody performs against
the elite teams versus the weak teams. Dumont had the
biggest gap of any quarterback in the Power five in
the Power fow.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, yeah, we were all excited for the guy to
come back, so we can't just change our mind now
because Demon Williams has taken off in the portal. We
were all fired up to see him come back, and
we all gave the guy a little bit of a break.
He's nineteen years old, whatever, He's got some new guys
around him, and.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We were excited for this guy for next year.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And maybe he would have felt differently about it if
de Mont Williams would have announced he was leaving, you know,
before the ball game. I mean, why did Demon Williams
even bother playing in the LA Bowl, you know, because
he wanted more tape.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
No, he didn't have an offer.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
He didn't have an offer, or he didn't know what
he was doing back then, or he played the game
because he was selfish and wanted to tear up Boise
States defense and increase his stock over the offseason. I
got no idea. I got again, this is one talking
about though. We can't dismiss anything. No, I just kiddy.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
But Aukham's razor is he just got a phone call
said I'll give you five million dollars if you come
to LSU.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I mean, that's that's right.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Or maybe he was irritated with the way things were
going in the first place and was considering taken off
when the season ended to begin with. I mean, I
think all those things are possible. I think again, anything
you can imagine, dick, anything you can pull out of
your or you know what, as a reason why these
things are happening in college football and a reason why
these players are taken off. I think every opinion, every idea,
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every possibility has to be absolutely considered here because there's
no rules in college football. This is this is a
funny farm in college football. It's it's just it's just
crazy town. What's going on here. So, I mean, look,
I'm I'm pissed off about it. I'm frustrated with the
state of college football. I'm frustrated that Washington is another
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victim of this when we thought that maybe there was
a chance that you dubbed could be at least when
it came to the biggest positions that made the most
money immune from some of this stuff. I can see
losing running backs and wide receivers. But I mean, my god,
two guys that were supposed to be a big part
of his football team next year in Raid and Vines
Brighton out of Mohammad just walked the hell out of
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here and went to Arizona. Yeah, Asu and Cal for
God's sakes, that's who we lost players to.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
This is a bad day for UW. Dude, bad day.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
This is not a good day for Washington, not a
good day for us as fans, and not a good
day for the program. So if you want to shut
her down mentally and just check in with me in
June and let me know what the roster looks like,
I'm totally fine with that. But just to wrap this
up before we get to crack and hockey here. I
know we got a game coming up here with the Bruins.
I am done with being loyal to college football players
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because none of them are loyal to us, none of them,
and the ones that are have no choice but to
be loyal. Players and coaches are all about one thing,
and that's themselves and making the most money possible, and
the fans are the ones that are paying the price.
So this is a year to year proposition for me.
Wake me up in September, Dick, when the roster is set.
We'll root for the dogs like crazy and then assume
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nothing when the year comes to win it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
That's exactly right, that's what you have to do.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
You got to Now we're going to be watching the
transfer portal very very closely, much more closely than we
would have if you would add a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
All right, we're got a break. We got Bruins, we
got cracking. The boys on a streak. They have not
lost a game in their last eight. We'll see if
they can keep it going against the Boston Bruins next.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And then more on this tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Man, we'll be all over this with de Mon Williams
in the portal starting tomorrow with Petros good day to
have him on by the way at four o'clock tomorrow,
we'll see you bye.
There's now multiple reports that Husky quarterback DeMont Williams is
going to enter the transfer portal with a no contact designation.
I'm hearing rumors of LSU by the way for him.
So we'll see what happens with Demon Williams. But there
was a report that came out a couple days ago,
and I don't know if the Huskies confirmed this or
not on their social media channels, that Demon had signed
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a new deal that was this stay at Washington. So
if he signed a new deal to stay at Washington,
apparently signing a deal means jack squat in college football.
And this is exactly what I was afraid of.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I was afraid of Jetfish leaving and taking Demon Williams
with him. But I was afraid that somebody would step
up and pay DeMont Williams more than what you Dubb
could offer. I don't know if he's leaving for money.
I don't know if he's leaving for a better situation
around him.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
This story is just breaking right now, but obviously it's
very frustrating for Husky football fans. Demon Williams so we
all thought and believe, has a chance to be a
very special player, if not a superstar, is in the portal.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And to me, this just.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Backs up this idea and this conversation that we've had
before on this radio station, Dick, that you can predict nothing,
you can assume nothing in college football, anything you can
imagine in college football is on the table, and nothing
should be dismissed. Coaches leaving after a year, players leaving
after a year, star players taking off for other programs.
(01:23):
I don't think we are in the business now in
this game of dismissing anything in any opinion by anybody
anymore ever, until they get this thing straightened out and
figured out and under control. There were people out there
who would tell you Demon Williams never leaving you, that'll
never happen. Well, god freaking what it may have just
taken place. So I don't want to hear any more
(01:45):
about people shutting down other people's thoughts on what could
potentially happen in college football, because anything can happen in
college football. This is ridiculous, absolutely effing ridiculous that a
guy like Demon Williams is leaving Washington to go play
for somebody else for what for money?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
This is one of the biggest markets in the.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Country, for God's sakes, one of the wealthiest counties in
the world, for crying out loud. Now, we're gonna lose
our quarterback to somebody else because of cash. Really, So
that's the story. Now that just came down that Demond
Williams is in the portal really.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Quick demand Williams has posted on Instagram as of a
few minutes ago, and that is confirmed. I could read
the whole statement, but I will say this, yeah, yeah, First,
I want to thank everybody in the Washington program for
everything they have done for me. I'm grateful for the
opportunity to be a part of Husky Nation. It goes
on and on, but he finishes by saying I have
to do what is best for me and my future.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
I'm gonna say something here that I'm gonna regret, by
the way, probably at some point f him. Okay, Honestly,
there's no freaking loyalty left in college football whatsoever. This
is a one year proposition for every single one of
these guys. And this is why people have a hard
time falling in love with players. Now, that's why they
have a hard time following the game and giving a
crap about the kids, because nobody in this game has
(03:00):
any loyalty whatsoever. You dubb paid DeMont Williams a lot
of money when he was here for the two years
he was here, and I was turning around and taking
off to go play for somebody else.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So f him, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Give a crap if he's nineteen twenty or twenty one.
Why should I give a damn about you as a
player when there's a pretty damn good chance you won't
give a damn about me as a football fan.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
So the hell of a man, Honestly, Dick, screw him.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I only care about the players that have the gold
helmets in the purple.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Jerseys for today.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
That's all for today, Yes for six today, And if
you don't want to play for Washington, Honestly, after the
first ten seconds of shok war off.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
For me, I was immediately into the portal.
Speaker 5 (03:42):
I want to see who my quarterback is going to
be for next year, and I want to see can
I come up with a better quarterback than Demon Williams.
And there's a quarterback out there that is a lot
better known nationally than Demon Williams. And now Washington has
got a hell of a lot of money to pay
a quarterback because they're not paying DeMont Williams money and
it's Sam Levitt. Sam Levitt was going to LSU. That
(04:04):
was the speculation. Sam Levitt was going from Arizona State
to LSU. Well, if Demont's going to LSU, then Sam
Levitt's not going to LSU.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Well again, I mean there's going to be a lot
of people competing for Sam Levitt, There's no question about that.
And now Washington's got to be the one team to
get him. And could we argue that he's an upgrade
over Demon Williams. I mean, he was hurt a year ago.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I have no.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
Idea what his injury situation is going to look like
and how Sam Levit's going to bounce back. He's a
different player than Demon Williams. I'm just telling you right now.
I was excited for DeMont Williams for next season. I
was excited for what this guy could do in the
system for the third year in a row with the
same offense and the same play caller and the same
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head coach. And now that guy is gone and you
have lost that now with Demon Williams. Either way, you're
starting over either way, you're going to be bringing in
the commodity that you don't know how that guy is
going to perform. You don't know how he's gonna make
with Jedfish, you don't know how he's gonna mix with
the rest of this offense. So I am I am
as of right now. I gotta be honest with you.
(05:07):
I am on freaking def Con one. I am freaking
pissed off right now. I'm pissed off at college football.
I'm pissed off at Washington, I'm pissed off at Demon Williams,
and I'm kind of pissed off at Jetfish as well.
For this entire situation, this is insane. All we've been
talking about is these guys being here for a year
and showing no loyalty whatsoever. We got dudes that are
(05:28):
hitting the portal before the seasons even over Dick and
committing to other teams before their old team's years even
come to an end.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Tell me they're about nuts.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Because I think Jetfish has shown no long term loyalty
to this program whatsoever. Why shouldn't they players show any
loyalty to him when nobody has any idea what he's
doing from year to year. He took the guy forever
to even give us a semblance of him sticking around
here after this season.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
He could have shut this thing down months.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Ago the way Dan Lanning did at Oregon, and he
didn't do it. Part of it is his resume, which
he's got to accept, that's his background.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
I understand that.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
But and maybe it's partly our fault, Dick, to be
honest with you as media people, that ever since Jedfish
showed up here, all we've done is talk about him
less exactly right, But I think that resonates.
Speaker 4 (06:20):
It does resonate, and we had this conversation.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I'm also very emotional right now and I'm very pissed
off of the world.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
To be honest with you, we had.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
We had this conversation with Hugh while you were gone,
and I asked, I asked you. I was like, it
are we being fair to Jedfish for the exact reason
you presented.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Ever since we.
Speaker 5 (06:37):
Walked he walked in the door, we've been like, well,
you're not sticking around so you know, yes, part of
it is him not stepping up and saying I am
staying beyond a shadow of it out here.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
I'm staying.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
But part of it is us from saying from the
second he walked in the door, well, what's the over
under on Jedfish? Stay two and a half years? Yes,
and now he's gonna be here for more than two
and a half years.
Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well, but it's not just us that are saying that, Dick.
This is not a softy Dick and Jackson phenomenon the
entire media. Corey and I just again, this is the
Jetfish thing is a small part of this. I just
think when you throw all of it, if you're making
a salad and you throw all of this into a
big bowl, Jetfish's long term future at Washington, whether it's
(07:21):
his fault or not.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The optics, right, Delon Williams, the.
Speaker 1 (07:27):
Portal era of college football, anil all of this stuff,
And I guess I'm just look, you may be very right, Dick,
that the Huskies may be better off at some point,
they may get a better option at quarterback.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Let's see what happens.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
It's not a lot out there, but if they get
one of them, not.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
A lot out there, but we'll see.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
You know.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It's just I mean, I've said before on this show,
wake me up when the roster is built, and then
I can talk about what the Huskies are going to
be because I got no frickin idea what the roster
is going to look like. I do know this that
the portal has been a little slow to bear fruit
for you dubbed this time or versus a year ago.
It felt like at this time last year they were
much further ahead than where they.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Are right now.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I'm just I am so done with the lack of
loyalty in college athletics, basketball, football, the whole thing. Okay,
you want my money, you want my time, you want
my energy, and you want my commitment, then you give
me the same, you give me the same, and I'm
(08:28):
not getting any of that from these kids.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I don't care if they're eighteen or twenty three years old.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
That's fair.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
It doesn't matter to me, all right.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
I am sick and fricking tired of the lack of
loyalty in this sport. And we just saw it, kick
you dub right in the balls tonight with Demn Worrie.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
I think I've I've decided since the beginning of this
nil era, I got to be either in or out
on the Washington Husky football program, and I've decided to
be in, and so by deciding to be in, I
have told myself, listen, I can't worry about anything that
I can't control. All I can worry about is going
to the games every week and rooting for whatever guys
(09:07):
are in the gold helmets and the purple jerseys. And
that saves me a hell of a lot of angst
on days like this. So whoever shows up in the
purple jerseys and the gold helmets in September, I will
be in my seat and I'll be.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Rooting for that team.
Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, I just again, I appreciate that, but I also
think for me. Of course, you'll be rooting for the
guys while they're here. But there's no part of me
when September starts that will assume anybody's coming backs right,
not one player that's right the next season. I don't
care who they are. I don't care how good they are.
I don't care how much money they're being made. I
don't care how much we kiss our ass. I don't
(09:41):
care how big a star they are, how big a
name they are. Every single year, when the season starts, yes,
we'll be there on game day, rooting like mad for
these guys. But I am approaching every college football season
as a one year entity. Every single year, the entire
roster for all I care could be blown to bits
over the offseason the next year.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
And I think that's the general problem now that you
kind of spell out, is that you're going to have
a large portion of the fan base who may have
given money and say, listen, if we can provide the
money and if we can donate, we will be able.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
To buy that loyalty.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And if there was one guy who we think we
could have boughten the loyalty of it's our starting quarterback
who stayed with Fish, who came here because of Fish,
and Fish stayed here, we go. And now that that
loyalty is torn up, it sort of erodes any belief
that your money can buy that loyalty.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
That's gone.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Right.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
So at this point, like effort for an average shoe
sports fan who can say, all right, I'll put fifty
bucks a year towards you dub that person now says,
but what's that fifty bucks gonna do?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
My players aren't staying totally. Well, there was a guy,
I don't know who it was. Somebody came out today,
some booster who said exactly that, like, Okay, if you're
gonna lock in for four years and I'm gonna watch
you develop, great, then great. Yeah, but why would I
give you three million dollars as an eighteen year old
nineteen year old when I'm gonna have my guy coach
(11:08):
you up and then somebody else is going to reap
the rewards of your coaching somewhere else and year three
or year four, And that's exactly what may have just
happened at Washington.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But don't you think it's time to fight fire with fire?
And yeah, I mentioned Sam Levitt, Well he's available. Guess
who else is available? Every other starting quarterback in college
football is evented. Yes, you can have whoever you are,
So go freaking get who you want right now and
see if you can upgrade over to Mont Williams.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Well, if Demon Williams did leave because of money, and
again we don't know exactly why he left, but if
he did leave because of money, if they can't afford
to pay DeMont Williams, what makes you think they'll be
able to pay for an upgrade to Demon Williams.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Well, they can pay for a guy that's close to him.
On who ends up having a better season than Demon.
That happens all the time. Look in the.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
NFL, I mean, twenty seven million dollar quarterbacks and Sam
Darnold have better seas than fifty five million dollars quarterbacks
in brock Purty.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
Yeah, they also could end up with a worse quarterback
for the same amount of money or more money. I
mean again, all of those possibilities are on the board.
And this is what I'm talking about. You know, I
don't want to dismiss anything again in this day and age,
in this era in college football, Losing a quarterback that
you never thought you'd lose is on the table. Losing
a guy because you can't afford to pay him is
(12:25):
on the table. Getting a guy out of here and
then replacing him with a much worse option for more
money is on the table. Getting a guy who's a
better quarterback for less money is on the table. Anything
that you can imagine is possible in college football.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Anything. Do we have Hugh by the way ready to go?
Not yet? Okay?
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Well, the news again coming down multiple reports now when
Demon Williams himself has made a post on Instagram, I
don't really want to read this whole thing because I
really don't give a crap what comes out of his mouth,
but he is basically confirming that he is taking off
and leaving Washington.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Has to do what's best for me and my future.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
After much thought and prayer, I will be entering the
transfer portal. Screw him, Honestly, you're not a dog. The
hell with you. You're not with us here against us. Okay,
that's exactly you want to come here for two years
as an eighteen year old one hundred and seventy pound
quarterback and start in the second half of your freshman year,
get handed the job, handed face of the pro and
(13:27):
the job before you even got to fall camp the
next year.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Jedfish. The one thing I will give Jedfish credit for.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
He bent over backwards and kissed this guy's ass at Washington,
and look what it just did for him.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
I have a trade must fish Field right now.
Speaker 2 (13:41):
It just completely backfired. I think he feels totally betrayed.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
But again, I just wonder how much of this is
about Jedfish's future.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
I mean, you would think that that the demand Williams
thing maybe would not be impacted by Jed's future as
much as maybe somebody else on the roster, Dick, because
demands in year three now and not your two, right,
But I just would.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Be gone probably after next year anyway.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I do wonder if he's a little bit disheartened by
the lack of movement in the portal to go out
and get him some help at wide receiver, tight end
places like that. I got no idea out of Mohammed
took off and went to play for California.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Man.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I just think the majority of my angst is towards
the system. But I'm really, really, really just completely done
with this lack of loyalty, and I don't really give
a damn where to Mont Williams ends up from what
he does, all right, humullin's with us, Hueye, you caught
us in a very emotional time, my friend. To Mont
Williams and the portal, your thoughts go.
Speaker 6 (14:40):
Well, I just think that we're it's clear evidence of
this tectonic shift in this structure of college football. And
just for a minute, if I can just amplify my
thoughts on that the very first game in college football
was Princeton Rutgers back in eighteen sixty nine, and somewhere,
(15:01):
and from there the Ivy League schools. Let me say again,
Ivy League schools, they were the most first prominent conference
in football. Somewhere there had to be discussions by academics
like what values, Why should we have a football team
attached to a university, And the thought was, well, there
(15:22):
are values that are to be learned in sports, in
competitive sports that are consistent with the mission statement of
a university. Now fast forward here and think of the evolution. Now,
it's just it's a big business in a way that
nobody could have ever ascribed to the academic enterprise and
(15:44):
the real mission statement of a university. So these guys
are attached. The whole reason why we watch minor league
football is because somehow, in these increasingly weakened ways, they
are attached to our school. And we are just seeing
over and over again, whoa there, No, they're not attached
(16:05):
to the school. We don't, you know, I mean these guys,
you know, maybe an ongline class here or there, they're
not really many times not really real students. And now
you know it's just their higher guns. They're mercenaries. And
I don't really hate you know, it's the hate the
player the game, not the player. This is what has happened.
(16:25):
We have this this odd pairing where we have amateurism
that has existed for one hundred and sixty years in
college football, and then the courts, the Supreme Court, by
a rule of nine nothing, they're saying no amateur smamish.
These guys are the labor. They are entitled by anti
(16:47):
trust laws to have the freedom. And I think this, don't.
I think there's a lot of people when they were
twenty or twenty one years old, if they had had
the freedom to go make millions and better there's situation
whatever in industry you are, think back when you were
twenty one. I mean, Dave, you've had there's competitors, Dick,
you know, in your market everything. I think a lot
(17:11):
of people would do what they did. So this is
what we have. It's just this this strange nexus of
the enterprise of college football in a society that has
anti trust laws for over one hundred years, and that
nexus is exactly what leads to this. Now that's kind
of my overview. As for Demon Williams, Yeah, look, there's
(17:35):
no there's no guarantee.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know, I've said this.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
This is not a new take from me on kJ R.
He has he has yet to prove that he's anything
more than Derry and Thompson Robinson.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I mean who won.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
Well, he has talked about it agnauseum over the last
three or four weeks since the last Husky game. Is
that Demon Williams has not performed at all against the
best players and Hugh has gone.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
He was probably gonna give those stats.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
There has the biggest gap between how somebody performs against
the elite teams versus the weak teams. Dumont had the
biggest gap of any quarterback in the Power five in
the Power fow.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Well, yeah, we were all excited for the guy to
come back, so we can't just change our mind now
because Demon Williams has taken off in the portal. We
were all fired up to see him come back, and
we all gave the guy a little bit of a break.
He's nineteen years old, whatever, He's got some new guys
around him, and.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
We were excited for this guy for next year.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
And maybe he would have felt differently about it if
de Mont Williams would have announced he was leaving, you know,
before the ball game. I mean, why did Demon Williams
even bother playing in the LA Bowl, you know, because
he wanted more tape.
Speaker 4 (18:42):
No, he didn't have an offer.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
He didn't have an offer, or he didn't know what
he was doing back then, or he played the game
because he was selfish and wanted to tear up Boise
States defense and increase his stock over the offseason. I
got no idea. I got again, this is one talking
about though. We can't dismiss anything. No, I just kiddy.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
But Aukham's razor is he just got a phone call
said I'll give you five million dollars if you come
to LSU.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I mean, that's that's right.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Or maybe he was irritated with the way things were
going in the first place and was considering taken off
when the season ended to begin with. I mean, I
think all those things are possible. I think again, anything
you can imagine, dick, anything you can pull out of
your or you know what, as a reason why these
things are happening in college football and a reason why
these players are taken off. I think every opinion, every idea,
(19:28):
every possibility has to be absolutely considered here because there's
no rules in college football. This is this is a
funny farm in college football. It's it's just it's just
crazy town. What's going on here. So, I mean, look,
I'm I'm pissed off about it. I'm frustrated with the
state of college football. I'm frustrated that Washington is another
(19:50):
victim of this when we thought that maybe there was
a chance that you dubbed could be at least when
it came to the biggest positions that made the most
money immune from some of this stuff. I can see
losing running backs and wide receivers. But I mean, my god,
two guys that were supposed to be a big part
of his football team next year in Raid and Vines
Brighton out of Mohammad just walked the hell out of
(20:11):
here and went to Arizona. Yeah, Asu and Cal for
God's sakes, that's who we lost players to.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
This is a bad day for UW. Dude, bad day.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
This is not a good day for Washington, not a
good day for us as fans, and not a good
day for the program. So if you want to shut
her down mentally and just check in with me in
June and let me know what the roster looks like,
I'm totally fine with that. But just to wrap this
up before we get to crack and hockey here. I
know we got a game coming up here with the Bruins.
I am done with being loyal to college football players
(20:42):
because none of them are loyal to us, none of them,
and the ones that are have no choice but to
be loyal. Players and coaches are all about one thing,
and that's themselves and making the most money possible, and
the fans are the ones that are paying the price.
So this is a year to year proposition for me.
Wake me up in September, Dick, when the roster is set.
We'll root for the dogs like crazy and then assume
(21:05):
nothing when the year comes to win it.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
That's exactly right, that's what you have to do.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
You got to Now we're going to be watching the
transfer portal very very closely, much more closely than we
would have if you would add a quarterback.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
All right, we're got a break. We got Bruins, we
got cracking. The boys on a streak. They have not
lost a game in their last eight. We'll see if
they can keep it going against the Boston Bruins next.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
And then more on this tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Man, we'll be all over this with de Mon Williams
in the portal starting tomorrow with Petros good day to
have him on by the way at four o'clock tomorrow,
we'll see you bye.
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