October 20, 2025 • 15 mins
Former Mariners All Star and recent Texas Hitting Coach Bret Boone joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about tonight’s game seven in the ALCS between the M’s and Toronto Blue Jays, winner-take-all games, George Kirby, and pitchers’ availability.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
There's just the only change.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And you know, looking at you know how he has
swung the bat, and I think more or less the
energy he brings to our club and the energy he
brings to the lineup, and you know some of the
things he can do on the basis and whatnot. So
a chance to get him in there today, and you know, again,
make a little bit of an adjustment. Changings up a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All right, Victor Roblast Dan Wilson there talking about the
lineup changes Horri Polanco and Horiy Polocko and Josh Naylor
excuse me, switching spots in the lineup tonight as well.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So a little bit of a different look.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Julio back in the leadoff spot though tonight for the
biggest game in Mariner baseball history. And here he is
joining us on the radio show after a brief hiatus.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We may not get a chance to get this guy
back anytime soon because he is spoken for but he
got a hall pass from his boss, the Rangers hitting coach,
our friend Brett Boone and joining us right now on
the radio program Booney, how are you, man, Hice?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Softy? Is Dick there too? Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
How are you, hey, Dick? Well, haven't I haven't talked
to you guys for a while. Softy occasionally yell yells
at me through a text, but other than that, I
haven't heard from you guys in a while.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, I appreciate you, ready, Yeah, let me yell at
you through the text. Well, let's talk about it, man,
talk about the emotion, momentum, things like that. In baseball.
We talk about it a lot in football. We talk
about a lot in basketball. Game of runs in basketball?
How much does momentum, the energy of the crowd come
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back by the Blue Jays, the ass kicking last night
by Toronto, mental mistakes by Seattle, whatever, how much does
all that play a role?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You're thinking tonight's game seven?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I don't think any. I mean Tonight's going to be
its separate entity. I think you know you're looking at
a George Kirby who's been just great and money in
big situation when he's got his good stuff, he is tough,
you know, talking to my hitters in Texas the like.
When Kirby's got his stuff, he's no fun to face. However,
last time Toronto got to him. It's probably the only
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blip on the radar for him in a while. But
I think he gave up eight runs against Toronto last time.
So if he can get that out of his mind
taking the mound to night, the Mariners are in pretty
good hands with the George Kirby. You got Bieber coming
off of Tommy John surgery. He's pitched pretty good since
he's been back. He's always going to be tough. But
here's the two things I look at, you know, down
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the stretch in September, coming through with the Texas Rangers
and watching this team. There's something special. It's almost early
two thousands in Seattle when we were playing there on
that great run. Just the city had a special electricity
about it. You couldn't explain it to anybody, just walk around.
When I left Toronto in September after a three game
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series and they beat us two out of three, I
felt that type of electricity, like the whole city was
just engulfed in this Toronto Blue Jays. So those guys
that are playing in Toronto right now, they're going through
a pretty special time. You know, I know what that
feels like, and it's pretty awesome. You want to bottle
it because it doesn't last forever. And they're a really
good team and they're explosive. They put the ball play,
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they don't strike out, and that's been the key to
a lot of their success going into this postseason. What
surprised me the most, or into this particular series is
the Mariners go up there, play two games in Toronto
and whoop them.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Toronto's probably been one of the toughest teams, especially the
second half, to beat at home. So Seattle goes up
there and gives them a beating two games. I just
think Seattle's going to run away and hide from this series.
But Toronto comes to Seattle and the Mobile Park and
beats them two out of three there to force a
game six. All of a sudden, it's locked up at
threes and it's all hands on deck tonight. Just for
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the record, after going through the season this year and
all the American League teams.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I thought, and this was honest. You know, it's not
the bias. It's not because I played there for a
long time.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I thought Seattle Mariners, especially after the trade deadline, picking
up Suarez and adding Naylor to the to the repertoire,
I thought they were the best team in baseball. With that,
with a quality pitcher going to the post every night,
from Kirby to Gilbert to Miller to Woo to Castillo,
and then the one two punch with Brash and Munos
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at the end. The pitching was as tough as a
guy on a nightly basis. You were never going to
have an easy, easy night with that staff and so
many weapons, you know, from Julio to to a Rose
Arena to Naylor to Suarez hitting fifty home runs, and
then you get to Raleigh who had that historic season
behind the plate. They've just got more weapons to take
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you deep than I think any team in the American League.
So I thought they were the best team. But as
everybody knows, the best team doesn't always win. It's gonna
be really interesting tonight and three to three, two great
ball clubs going at it, all hands on deck. You know,
Gosman's gonna be available. You probably everybody in the Seattle rotation,
maybe with the exception of Gilbert is gonna be available tonight,
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so I'll be watching. It should be it should be
a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Maybe fun if it doesn't go your way. I don't
think Softi's gonna have fun. No, no, no, I' about having fun, now,
are you kidding?
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Booney tried to explain the stat that Softy just threw
out in the last segment, where basically, in all deciding
games of five games and seven game series, it's essentially
fifty to fifty whether the home team wins or not.
The home field advantage has been non existent in baseball
deciding games.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I don't know. Level of emotion, I mean so much
and this series, you know, after what I went through
with Seattle taking Toronto in Toronto, Toronto taking care of
business with Seattle in Seattle makes no sense. That makes
no sense to me. But that's why this game is
so great. You just never know what's gonna happen. So
I think tonight it wouldn't matter where you were playing.
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It's just it's almost like a neutral site because of
the just because of the.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The level of.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You know how important this game is. Not only do
the Toronto Blue Jays haven't been to a World Series
in a long time, especially the Seattle Mariners in their organization,
who this would be their first berth ever in the
World Series, which would be a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So I just don't think.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
The venue really matters tonight in a game of this
much importance.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Well, you mentioned Kirby Boonie game three, four innings, eight runs,
all earned three bombs, a couple of walks. I mean,
just awful, right, I mean, nobody would ever deny that,
neither would he. So tell me about how quick a
hook Dan Wilson needs to have with George Kirby tonight.
You mentioned it, Brian Woo's available, Bryce Miller has said
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he'll pitch Castillo everybody, I mean again, probably everybody except
for Logan Gilbert all hands on. So because of that,
how big of a hook do you need to have
with George Kirby before you say enough is enough?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Well, I think because of the quality you have in
that Seattle Mariners rotation and the names you just mentioned
that are available, Woo, Castillo, Miller, Miller's been unbelievable. So
with having those guys available tonight, I think it's gonna
be a real quick hook if that's necessarily and Dan,
and Dan sees that. You know, the one thing by
by spending this last five months with Bruce Bochi that
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that we talked about on occasion was managing in the
regular season versus managing in the postseason. He said, his
first World series he ever went to is with I Believe,
the San Diego Padres and he said he managed just
like it was a regular season series. He said he
learned from that, and then the World Series he won,
he said, I managed with absolute.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I had to.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I had to just micro manage everything, and everything was
the end of the end of the world if I
don't make a move, So he said, managing in the
postseason is definitely different than managing in the regular season.
So I say, tonight, especially with the quality of arms
Dan's got at his fingertips, tonight, I think if he
sees the first sign of trouble, He's gonna go to
another one of those guys in that rotation.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
How do you explain last night? I mean, that was
the most listless, worst defensive performance of the entire season
in the biggest game of their lives. How do you
explain that?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Right, Well, it happens, you know it happens. That's baseball
and teams like Toronto who constantly put pressure and I
don't know what the statistics are, haven't been keeping up
with that type of stuff lately, but I know they
put the ball in play, and I know they strike
out less than most teams in baseball. And there's no
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rhyme or reasons. Sometimes mistake, one mistakes leads to another
mistake leads to another mistake. But the one thing this
Toronto Blue Jays team's done and balling them just recently
from September through the playoffs, when they get on a roll,
they just they just keep the pedal to the medal.
And I've seen them just make a mockery of games
and teams. One inning and it's all of a sudden,
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it's five to one before you know what hitches.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So this Toronto team's tough.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Like I said, there's something special going on in Toronto.
But in my opinion, they're playing the best team in
the American League.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's Seattle, America.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, well, let's talk about the matchup with with Beamer tonight.
I mean, this is a guy who coming off Tommy
John acquired by the Blue Jays of the deadline shoved
it up our button one game already in this series,
you know, so we've seen him once.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But to get to him tonight, what would be a key.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Or two that you would want to share with Julio
or Rose Arena, Cal Polako and others about facing this guy.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, you know, these guys have a little bit of
a history. Some of the players that have been around
for three, four or five years, they've had a little
bit of a history each. Each each approach is going
to be kind of formed on your history with that individual.
So if a Rose Arena has a different history against
Bieber when he was with the Cleveland Indy or the
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Cleveland Guardians, uh than Julio has or Cal Rawley has.
It's it's breaking it down to I don't necessarily think
there's going to be a team approach of this or that.
It's what if I beat Bieber with, what has.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He beat me with? Get it?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Get an approach individually, Go with that approach and take it.
But but the thing is with these pitchers, these caliber
of pitchers, if they've got their good stuff, I don't
care what kind of approach you have.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's it's it's a coin toss.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
If you if you put a if you put a
good swing on a pitch, they're that good.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Bieber is that good.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I know he's been out for a year, but he's
a legit number one on ninety percent of the big
league teams out there, so he's he's a he's a
formidable foe. That being said, I think they have more
backup in Seattle tonight with with that rotation and the
people available, I think they do have a Gosman available
into who's been He's kind of pitched into some tough luck.
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He's pitched really well and had a couple tough losses,
not losses for him, but his team has lost when
he's pitched really well. I think the backup that Seattle
has that goes advantage Seattle versus the Toronto. But I
think the approach is going to be good. Get a
good pitch to hit and let it hack. It's one
game to leave it all on the table.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Well, Julio got moved to the leadoff spot. He's back
there again today. I mean, do you talk to Julio
as a heading coach? Do you tell him, Okay, you're
in the leadoff spot now. You can't just be swinging
at first pitches all the time or do you just
let Julio be Julio.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Well, it depends on the individual and the relationship you
have with the individual. In Texas, what we do is,
you know, there's certain guys that come to be before
the game. We go over there, not necessarily go over
the video. They watch the video on their own. I
have a question for him, what's our approach tonight? What
are we looking for? What are we trying to do?
And I could be talking to Marcus Simeon and saying
one thing, why at Langford saying something else, or an
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Evan Carr have a completely different discussion with So it
all depends on the individual. It's kind of a tailored
and a very personal thing. Everybody's different, and you got
to know what their skill set is, how they how
they how they approach when they get in the box,
and you have to tailor that that particular game plan
for the individual. So I don't know, Julio, Well maybe
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it'd be a thing or all right, Julio, we watched
the video.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
What did he do to you last time?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
What was he successful with? What do you think he's
gonna come at you with tonight? And let's stick with
that game plan and not waiver.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
There's more time than that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
If you stick with your game plan over the long haul,
you're gonna be successful.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Well, boony, listen man, great stuff. We appreciate this as
always always good to have your your two cents on this, sucker,
But what do you think happens tonight? Honestly, what's your gut?
It's hard to make predictions. You said it was a
coin flip, and I agree with that, honestly. Yeah, you're
picking somebody. Never mind the fact that you're on Seattle Radio.
You just tell us your gut. What happens to that?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Obviously because of my time there, and and you know
that's out of my team. You know, when people talk
to me about what team am I affiliated with, of
course it's the Seattle Mariners. From a player's perspective, I'm
just gonna go back to what I've said for two
months now. I think, at the end of the day,
the personnel the roster of the Seattle Mariners was the
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best team when the smoke settled and the season was over.
If I had to pick one team in the American League,
I thought the Seattle Mariners top to bottom pitching to
relief to the personnel on the field. I thought they
were the best team in the American League. So I'll
stick with the Mariners in this point flip of a
game just because I think they're the best team and
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they have the most weapons.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love it all, right, man, good stuff, Good luck
with the Rangers. We'll talk soon, buddy.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Nice guys.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You know, there's this other thing going around which I
don't really care about, because if the Mariners get swept
in three games and a seven game World Series, I
would take that right now against the Dodgers to win
this game tonight. But our friend Sarah Langs, who was
a great follow on Twitter, seasons where one LCS was
a sweep and the other one seven games. Right, So
the Dodgers swept the Brewers, and the Mariners and Blue
Jays are in seven best of seven.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Since the LCS went to best of seven since eighty five,
that's happened five different times where one was a sweep
and one went seven. The other four prior times that happened,
the team that won the seven game LCS won the
World Series. Now, maybe it's different now with the Dodgers
in their pay roll. O TODDI I get that, but
this idea that whoever wins this game tonight just gets
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steamrolled by la I don't buy that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, no, don't buy that, especially.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
When your strength is the depth in your starting rotation. Yes,
I think that. I think it really factors more. If
you've got one or two great starters and that's all
you have and you have to start your fifth guy
or your fourth guy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
In game one, then you're gonna lose game Well, like you.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Just said, they're real quick, and then we have factor
fiction here in a second. But if the strength is
the depth in your rotation, then let's see it tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
You don't come this far talking about how great year
road because the rotation, let's face it, outside of Bryce
Miller in this series, has been crap. They have failed
them at the exact on a long time of the year.
So the odds.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Say, don't they that they gotta get somebody to step up,
somebody besides Bryce Miller of the Big three, which is Kirby,
Gilbert and Castillo.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Bryan Woo's banged up, so I'm not including him.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
But of those three, all we need is one of
them to step up one time tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
There's just the only change.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
And you know, looking at you know how he has
swung the bat, and I think more or less the
energy he brings to our club and the energy he
brings to the lineup, and you know some of the
things he can do on the basis and whatnot. So
a chance to get him in there today, and you know, again,
make a little bit of an adjustment. Changings up a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
All right, Victor Roblast Dan Wilson there talking about the
lineup changes Horri Polanco and Horiy Polocko and Josh Naylor
excuse me, switching spots in the lineup tonight as well.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
So a little bit of a different look.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
Julio back in the leadoff spot though tonight for the
biggest game in Mariner baseball history. And here he is
joining us on the radio show after a brief hiatus.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
We may not get a chance to get this guy
back anytime soon because he is spoken for but he
got a hall pass from his boss, the Rangers hitting coach,
our friend Brett Boone and joining us right now on
the radio program Booney, how are you, man, Hice?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Softy? Is Dick there too? Yes?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
How are you, hey, Dick? Well, haven't I haven't talked
to you guys for a while. Softy occasionally yell yells
at me through a text, but other than that, I
haven't heard from you guys in a while.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, I appreciate you, ready, Yeah, let me yell at
you through the text. Well, let's talk about it, man,
talk about the emotion, momentum, things like that. In baseball.
We talk about it a lot in football. We talk
about a lot in basketball. Game of runs in basketball?
How much does momentum, the energy of the crowd come
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back by the Blue Jays, the ass kicking last night
by Toronto, mental mistakes by Seattle, whatever, how much does
all that play a role?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
You're thinking tonight's game seven?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
I don't think any. I mean Tonight's going to be
its separate entity. I think you know you're looking at
a George Kirby who's been just great and money in
big situation when he's got his good stuff, he is tough,
you know, talking to my hitters in Texas the like.
When Kirby's got his stuff, he's no fun to face. However,
last time Toronto got to him. It's probably the only
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blip on the radar for him in a while. But
I think he gave up eight runs against Toronto last time.
So if he can get that out of his mind
taking the mound to night, the Mariners are in pretty
good hands with the George Kirby. You got Bieber coming
off of Tommy John surgery. He's pitched pretty good since
he's been back. He's always going to be tough. But
here's the two things I look at, you know, down
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the stretch in September, coming through with the Texas Rangers
and watching this team. There's something special. It's almost early
two thousands in Seattle when we were playing there on
that great run. Just the city had a special electricity
about it. You couldn't explain it to anybody, just walk around.
When I left Toronto in September after a three game
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series and they beat us two out of three, I
felt that type of electricity, like the whole city was
just engulfed in this Toronto Blue Jays. So those guys
that are playing in Toronto right now, they're going through
a pretty special time. You know, I know what that
feels like, and it's pretty awesome. You want to bottle
it because it doesn't last forever. And they're a really
good team and they're explosive. They put the ball play,
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they don't strike out, and that's been the key to
a lot of their success going into this postseason. What
surprised me the most, or into this particular series is
the Mariners go up there, play two games in Toronto
and whoop them.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Toronto's probably been one of the toughest teams, especially the
second half, to beat at home. So Seattle goes up
there and gives them a beating two games. I just
think Seattle's going to run away and hide from this series.
But Toronto comes to Seattle and the Mobile Park and
beats them two out of three there to force a
game six. All of a sudden, it's locked up at
threes and it's all hands on deck tonight. Just for
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the record, after going through the season this year and
all the American League teams.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
I thought, and this was honest. You know, it's not
the bias. It's not because I played there for a
long time.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I thought Seattle Mariners, especially after the trade deadline, picking
up Suarez and adding Naylor to the to the repertoire,
I thought they were the best team in baseball. With that,
with a quality pitcher going to the post every night,
from Kirby to Gilbert to Miller to Woo to Castillo,
and then the one two punch with Brash and Munos
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at the end. The pitching was as tough as a
guy on a nightly basis. You were never going to
have an easy, easy night with that staff and so
many weapons, you know, from Julio to to a Rose
Arena to Naylor to Suarez hitting fifty home runs, and
then you get to Raleigh who had that historic season
behind the plate. They've just got more weapons to take
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you deep than I think any team in the American League.
So I thought they were the best team. But as
everybody knows, the best team doesn't always win. It's gonna
be really interesting tonight and three to three, two great
ball clubs going at it, all hands on deck. You know,
Gosman's gonna be available. You probably everybody in the Seattle rotation,
maybe with the exception of Gilbert is gonna be available tonight,
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so I'll be watching. It should be it should be
a lot of fun.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Maybe fun if it doesn't go your way. I don't
think Softi's gonna have fun. No, no, no, I' about having fun, now,
are you kidding?
Speaker 6 (05:21):
Booney tried to explain the stat that Softy just threw
out in the last segment, where basically, in all deciding
games of five games and seven game series, it's essentially
fifty to fifty whether the home team wins or not.
The home field advantage has been non existent in baseball
deciding games.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Why do you think that is?
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I don't know. Level of emotion, I mean so much
and this series, you know, after what I went through
with Seattle taking Toronto in Toronto, Toronto taking care of
business with Seattle in Seattle makes no sense. That makes
no sense to me. But that's why this game is
so great. You just never know what's gonna happen. So
I think tonight it wouldn't matter where you were playing.
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It's just it's almost like a neutral site because of
the just because of the.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
The level of.
Speaker 5 (06:13):
You know how important this game is. Not only do
the Toronto Blue Jays haven't been to a World Series
in a long time, especially the Seattle Mariners in their organization,
who this would be their first berth ever in the
World Series, which would be a cool thing.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
So I just don't think.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
The venue really matters tonight in a game of this
much importance.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Well, you mentioned Kirby Boonie game three, four innings, eight runs,
all earned three bombs, a couple of walks. I mean,
just awful, right, I mean, nobody would ever deny that,
neither would he. So tell me about how quick a
hook Dan Wilson needs to have with George Kirby tonight.
You mentioned it, Brian Woo's available, Bryce Miller has said
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he'll pitch Castillo everybody, I mean again, probably everybody except
for Logan Gilbert all hands on. So because of that,
how big of a hook do you need to have
with George Kirby before you say enough is enough?
Speaker 5 (07:07):
Well, I think because of the quality you have in
that Seattle Mariners rotation and the names you just mentioned
that are available, Woo, Castillo, Miller, Miller's been unbelievable. So
with having those guys available tonight, I think it's gonna
be a real quick hook if that's necessarily and Dan,
and Dan sees that. You know, the one thing by
by spending this last five months with Bruce Bochi that
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that we talked about on occasion was managing in the
regular season versus managing in the postseason. He said, his
first World series he ever went to is with I Believe,
the San Diego Padres and he said he managed just
like it was a regular season series. He said he
learned from that, and then the World Series he won,
he said, I managed with absolute.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I had to.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
I had to just micro manage everything, and everything was
the end of the end of the world if I
don't make a move, So he said, managing in the
postseason is definitely different than managing in the regular season.
So I say, tonight, especially with the quality of arms
Dan's got at his fingertips, tonight, I think if he
sees the first sign of trouble, He's gonna go to
another one of those guys in that rotation.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
How do you explain last night? I mean, that was
the most listless, worst defensive performance of the entire season
in the biggest game of their lives. How do you
explain that?
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Right, Well, it happens, you know it happens. That's baseball
and teams like Toronto who constantly put pressure and I
don't know what the statistics are, haven't been keeping up
with that type of stuff lately, but I know they
put the ball in play, and I know they strike
out less than most teams in baseball. And there's no
(08:47):
rhyme or reasons. Sometimes mistake, one mistakes leads to another
mistake leads to another mistake. But the one thing this
Toronto Blue Jays team's done and balling them just recently
from September through the playoffs, when they get on a roll,
they just they just keep the pedal to the medal.
And I've seen them just make a mockery of games
and teams. One inning and it's all of a sudden,
(09:10):
it's five to one before you know what hitches.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
So this Toronto team's tough.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Like I said, there's something special going on in Toronto.
But in my opinion, they're playing the best team in
the American League.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
That's Seattle, America.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
Yeah, well, let's talk about the matchup with with Beamer tonight.
I mean, this is a guy who coming off Tommy
John acquired by the Blue Jays of the deadline shoved
it up our button one game already in this series,
you know, so we've seen him once.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
But to get to him tonight, what would be a key.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
Or two that you would want to share with Julio
or Rose Arena, Cal Polako and others about facing this guy.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, you know, these guys have a little bit of
a history. Some of the players that have been around
for three, four or five years, they've had a little
bit of a history each. Each each approach is going
to be kind of formed on your history with that individual.
So if a Rose Arena has a different history against
Bieber when he was with the Cleveland Indy or the
(10:05):
Cleveland Guardians, uh than Julio has or Cal Rawley has.
It's it's breaking it down to I don't necessarily think
there's going to be a team approach of this or that.
It's what if I beat Bieber with, what has.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
He beat me with? Get it?
Speaker 5 (10:20):
Get an approach individually, Go with that approach and take it.
But but the thing is with these pitchers, these caliber
of pitchers, if they've got their good stuff, I don't
care what kind of approach you have.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
It's it's it's a coin toss.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
If you if you put a if you put a
good swing on a pitch, they're that good.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Bieber is that good.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
I know he's been out for a year, but he's
a legit number one on ninety percent of the big
league teams out there, so he's he's a he's a
formidable foe. That being said, I think they have more
backup in Seattle tonight with with that rotation and the
people available, I think they do have a Gosman available
into who's been He's kind of pitched into some tough luck.
(11:03):
He's pitched really well and had a couple tough losses,
not losses for him, but his team has lost when
he's pitched really well. I think the backup that Seattle
has that goes advantage Seattle versus the Toronto. But I
think the approach is going to be good. Get a
good pitch to hit and let it hack. It's one
game to leave it all on the table.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
Well, Julio got moved to the leadoff spot. He's back
there again today. I mean, do you talk to Julio
as a heading coach? Do you tell him, Okay, you're
in the leadoff spot now. You can't just be swinging
at first pitches all the time or do you just
let Julio be Julio.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Well, it depends on the individual and the relationship you
have with the individual. In Texas, what we do is,
you know, there's certain guys that come to be before
the game. We go over there, not necessarily go over
the video. They watch the video on their own. I
have a question for him, what's our approach tonight? What
are we looking for? What are we trying to do?
And I could be talking to Marcus Simeon and saying
one thing, why at Langford saying something else, or an
(11:59):
Evan Carr have a completely different discussion with So it
all depends on the individual. It's kind of a tailored
and a very personal thing. Everybody's different, and you got
to know what their skill set is, how they how
they how they approach when they get in the box,
and you have to tailor that that particular game plan
for the individual. So I don't know, Julio, Well maybe
(12:20):
it'd be a thing or all right, Julio, we watched
the video.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
What did he do to you last time?
Speaker 5 (12:24):
What was he successful with? What do you think he's
gonna come at you with tonight? And let's stick with
that game plan and not waiver.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
There's more time than that.
Speaker 5 (12:31):
If you stick with your game plan over the long haul,
you're gonna be successful.
Speaker 4 (12:34):
Well, boony, listen man, great stuff. We appreciate this as
always always good to have your your two cents on this, sucker,
But what do you think happens tonight? Honestly, what's your gut?
It's hard to make predictions. You said it was a
coin flip, and I agree with that, honestly. Yeah, you're
picking somebody. Never mind the fact that you're on Seattle Radio.
You just tell us your gut. What happens to that?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Right?
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (12:55):
Obviously because of my time there, and and you know
that's out of my team. You know, when people talk
to me about what team am I affiliated with, of
course it's the Seattle Mariners. From a player's perspective, I'm
just gonna go back to what I've said for two
months now. I think, at the end of the day,
the personnel the roster of the Seattle Mariners was the
(13:16):
best team when the smoke settled and the season was over.
If I had to pick one team in the American League,
I thought the Seattle Mariners top to bottom pitching to
relief to the personnel on the field. I thought they
were the best team in the American League. So I'll
stick with the Mariners in this point flip of a
game just because I think they're the best team and
(13:37):
they have the most weapons.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
I love it all, right, man, good stuff, Good luck
with the Rangers. We'll talk soon, buddy.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Nice guys.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
You know, there's this other thing going around which I
don't really care about, because if the Mariners get swept
in three games and a seven game World Series, I
would take that right now against the Dodgers to win
this game tonight. But our friend Sarah Langs, who was
a great follow on Twitter, seasons where one LCS was
a sweep and the other one seven games. Right, So
the Dodgers swept the Brewers, and the Mariners and Blue
Jays are in seven best of seven.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
Since the LCS went to best of seven since eighty five,
that's happened five different times where one was a sweep
and one went seven. The other four prior times that happened,
the team that won the seven game LCS won the
World Series. Now, maybe it's different now with the Dodgers
in their pay roll. O TODDI I get that, but
this idea that whoever wins this game tonight just gets
(14:26):
steamrolled by la I don't buy that.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Well, no, don't buy that, especially.
Speaker 6 (14:30):
When your strength is the depth in your starting rotation. Yes,
I think that. I think it really factors more. If
you've got one or two great starters and that's all
you have and you have to start your fifth guy
or your fourth guy.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
In game one, then you're gonna lose game Well, like you.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Just said, they're real quick, and then we have factor
fiction here in a second. But if the strength is
the depth in your rotation, then let's see it tonight.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Right.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
You don't come this far talking about how great year
road because the rotation, let's face it, outside of Bryce
Miller in this series, has been crap. They have failed
them at the exact on a long time of the year.
So the odds.
Speaker 7 (15:02):
Say, don't they that they gotta get somebody to step up,
somebody besides Bryce Miller of the Big three, which is Kirby,
Gilbert and Castillo.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Bryan Woo's banged up, so I'm not including him.
Speaker 7 (15:15):
But of those three, all we need is one of
them to step up one time tonight.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
And you could pull this thing off
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