October 4, 2024 • 18 mins
Hugh Millen joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to revisit his 1984 Huskies win over Michigan in their house, the game between the schools coming up tomorrow at home, the Seahawks facing the Giants at home on Sunday, and getting Uchenna Nwosu back.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, before we get going with this thing, what
do you say we take a brief respite, take a
walk down memory lane. September fifteenth, nineteen eighty four, Washington
at Number two, Michigan, Michigan Stadium and Arbor, Michigan on CBS.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Ten to three.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Washington leads the Michigan wolverinees here at Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Pat at the start of this telecast, you said one thing,
Hugh Milan of Washington has to take.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
On a bigger role.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
And it's a decisely what he did in the first half.
Remember last week he really didn't throw the ball very well.
This week he has. He's what he's ten to twelve
for seventy one yards. He's kept drives alive, he's throwing
the ball really short control type of passes. Gary Crowd
today announced it one hundred and three thousand and seventy two,
the largest draft Washington was played.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Before in a regular season game. Totally by the rose ball.
You're bailing back wide.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Open this paddle cift, paddassipers of y'all touchdown Washington.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's unbelievable. And I am terribly impressed with you, Melander.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Wow, as your wife ever said that, by the way,
she's terribly impressed with you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Melons to drop? Can we cannot get a drop?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think the guy pretty much said, just stunk the
week before again on that day, well, we stunk our
way to twenty sixth to nothing went over Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But he was not inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You know, I was watching tape all week of Miami,
the defending champions had lost to Michigan the week before,
and and Bernie Cozart throwing six interceptions. Yeah, and so
the plan was like, hey, let's just you know, just
try and get completions, no saxon, no interceptions. But but
then the event was good day for Washington, certainly with
the Purple rain defense. Yeah, you know that that's the
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ultimate closer and they were. They were there if the
offense did just enough, and that's what we did and
then and it was all about that defense.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, I'm glad that we have that piece of audio
there because that was not in the script.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, no, well, ninety five percent of the people that
were at that game are now dead, so I'm glad
to actually have they do to play here on the air.
But dude, here we are forty years later, man, right,
and the Huskies are playing Michigan again.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They're doing it in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
First time they've come here was a two thousand and
one the Amaro Lol Rock Alexander game, because they lost
the next year. You and I were both out there
for that two thousand and two game when they had
twelve minutes, so you had twelve men in the field
and Philip Brabb, that son of a bitch, made that
teal goal to beat the Huskies at Michigan Stadium. But
this is a rivalry, no question about it for guys
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like us. What's you tell you what tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Man?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, you know, first of all, when you think of Michigan,
I mean, they're just to me, it's always sexy because
they're the number one team in the history college football
and wins they have. You know, this is highly subjective.
I think they have the coolest uniforms in all of sports.
But even if you don't like their uniforms, you have
to recognize that helmet is just iconic. And and if
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you just if you have a scale of academic ranking
plus athletic accomplishments, Michigan is arguably the premier institution, certainly
premier state school in the country. I mean, this is
this is big time stuff. Now you go to tomorrow
and I'm just looking at Orgy who looks like dk
Metcalf playing quarterback. But in two starts he had thirty
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two yards passing and then eighty six He's got one
hundred and eighteen yards passing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
In two starts. Like that's one quarter for Kirk Cousins.
So I just.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I think it's I think it's gross football. You know,
the Ford pass was introduced in nineteen oh six. We're
taking this game back one hundred and eighteen years at least.
But but you know, I'll say this, for the running game,
it's not just okay, yeah, be prepared for the running game.
It's the style of the running game because what Michigan
does is they get in there and they run power encounter.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What does that mean.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
We've heard his zone blocking where everybody kind of steps
in unison to the point of attack. You don't have
violent angles like that what Michigan specializes. If you're gonna go,
let's say off left tackle, everybody on the left side
is gonna block down and then you're gonna pull guys
from the backside a guard. Usually they go two tight ends,
and they're two tight end sets with Orgy as starter.
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They've had fifty five plays of two tight ends, only
thirty four with one. So they're gonna get into two
tight end sets. They're gonna pull those shits and and
I'll tell you what. It's just that type of that
what we call gap scheme blocking. That is just a
test of wheels that you have to if you're the
end man online scrimmage. You know, we've talked about Durfy
whether or not his his ask. Whoever you are on
the end, you've got to eliminate space, You got to
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close down, you gotta linebackers have to scrape hard. Defensive
tackles have to anchor against that double team. And really,
to me have you ever seen those slap competitions.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What I'm talking about with you guys have to put
their hands behind their back and then they just they
just wind up.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what's coming.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You can't move, but you got to just take that slap, right,
And that's what this game is gonna be. You know
exactly what they're gonna do, They're gonna it's just a
test of Really, it's a test of will. So I
think the crowd can inspire the defense, but so much
of this is just you know, what is your will?
What is your will to take on those physical blocks
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to either shed Can you knife under some blocks and
make a few big plays to force a punt? Not
every block has to be taken on physically. There's other
ways to do it. But but nine out of ten times,
you just got to prove that you're the better man.
And we'll see what happens tomorrow if that can be
proven by Washington.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I feel like this game is won with Washington's offense
on the field and how well they can keep that
defensive line off of Will Rogers and b Can they
at least get a semblance of a running game going.
And so when you when you look at the run game,
when you're when you're playing against a really good defensive
line with a couple of All American candidates, do you
like to run at those guys or do you like
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to run away from those guys?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It depends on what what type of player they are.
I mean, if these.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Two these two uh, these two guys on the on
the defensive front formation.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, no, I I I've seen him play.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I would say Graham is a guy that you probably
want to run away from him.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think he's he's stronger.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You know, as a general rule, you just say, if
it's an athletic type of guy, you want to run
at him. If if if it's a strong guy, you
want to run away from them, right and and and
so you know, you know, you know, we'll we'll just
see how that plays out. But but one of the things,
you know, Washington in their endeavor to stop I look
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and I say, can you play the eight man box?
And Washington thus far has they've played seventy two percent
with single safety, Michigan only forty five percent. So when
you know you got to bring that extra defender down
in the box, then that that Washington has done that
that favors now for Washington. You know, again Michigan having
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less of a propensity, they play more too high structure.
You know, there may be some running opportunities, but they're
about fifty to fifty, as I said, forty five percent,
so sore, I can see it be more balanced.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Now here's a concern for me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
If you take Orgy, it's they're going to lull you
into sleep getting back to Michigan on offense. And so
I think that you should get that free safety, get Nosy,
bring him down to play.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, we said it's an eight man front.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
If the free safety plays shallow and he kind of
can kind of feel he's not going to make stops
for three yard games, but he might make a an
eleven yard gain a six yard gain instead, which might
be the difference between a pun and a first down.
So how you play the free safety, Washington's free safety,
that's important. But here's here's a concern. If you're coaching
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the Husky secondary, you're watching tape and Orgy on play
action is only five for twelve for forty seven yards
with a long of fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's important.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
They have not seen anybody do what I'm concerned about
which is lollya, lolio, lollya, and then I'm sneaking behind you.
Orgy right now is oero for three on go routes.
Those are deep routes up the sideline, and he's oh
for one on post routes. He has not hit anything deep.
And so what you're doing, if you're coaching Washington, is like, hey, listen,
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this is all hands on deck to stop the run.
By the nature of everything we've been discussing, but we
don't want to have that one like play action get
behind you that beats you, and you can't show it
on tape that this happened.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You just got to tell him, you know, you just
got to say you know that it can happen. So
you got to be focused.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
If you're those Washington corners, I would say play them
inside shade, because I just said you're going to take
the safety out of it and bring him down. So
the corners have to Washington cornerbacks should play more inside.
Conscious that that corresponds with Michigan's weakness, because Orgy is
only six out of fifteen throwing to the out outside
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the numbers and a three point seven yards per temp.
So you tell your Washington corners play inside. Don't worry
about the oddie. He's not a great outside thrower, yep.
But for most importantly, don't get beat by the go
route or the post. You're not gonna see it on tape,
but you got to know it's a potential.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, it looks like to me just looking at the numbers.
And again, I know it's only week six. We can't
get a real full picture just from looking at stats yet.
Maybe come back, you know, early November, late October, whatever,
But on paper, it looks like the only thing that
Michigan might be truly elite at this year is stopping
the run. They're only allowing two point seven five yards
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per carrying, number six in the country in rushing defense.
To do have this Mullings kid who's averaging seven yards
of carry on offense, thirty fourth on in rushing offense.
So I mean, I'm just looking at the weaknesses you
of Michigan's football team and the strengths of udub's offense
and thinking, I want to just rip this secondary apart.
They're one hundred and third and passing defense. They've allowed
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ten passing touchdowns already. They only allowed eight last season.
This is not the same passing defense that we saw
play Michael Pennocks in Houston Men.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, I mean, if you think you can get big
plays and protect and we've seen a number of times
where Will Rogers has had that nice touch on the
deep ball, and you know that's kind of a processing thing.
Just how much do I need to lead my guys?
So I think he has some innate.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Skills that way.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I would think that Jed Fishes is thinking, hey, I
got a couple of guns in my holster on each hip.
I mean I got Jonah Coleman on one hip, and
I got this ability to have a big play pass
offense in the other. And I think he's gonna want
to really probe on each side. And I don't think
he's thinking, well, I'm gonna go heavy this.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think Washington has the potential to have a relatively
balanced attack.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We know we're not going to see it from Michigan's offense. Well,
do you.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Want to have a faster pace because when you're the
more weaponized team, which certainly Washington is offensively, I mean,
you want to play this game in the thirties and
instead of in a box.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, I think if you can get up on Michigan, yes,
and I think those are usually dictated by Okay, how
much can you dictate coverage? How much you know, can
you impact the conditioning, because if you're going no huddle,
then obviously the Michigan defense they cannot make substitutions if
they can't get into their exotic looks and they're going
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relatively vanilla and they just make a couple of calls, Hey,
we're we're cover three, or we're cover one, or we're
cover four, you know, and and and you can get
vanilla looks. They're easy to process for Will Rogers, Those
to me would be the reasons why you go up
tempo and and and with a veteran quarterback, he can
handle that. But that would be uh, you know, the
guiding factor. I mean, we've seen it with Ryan Grubb
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on thus far this season. He's used the no huddle
to really good effect. And maybe we'll see that tomorrow. Well,
let's spend a few minutes here here. You're talking about
the game on Sunday. Giants got a bunch of guys out,
including Mylakue neighbors. Devin Singletary is doubtful if you look
at the touches and targets for Giant offensive players, if
Singletary doesn't play, that means fifty one percent of their
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touches and targets are gone for this game on Sunday.
How concerned should we be about the Hawks losing this game? Well,
I just think if they're professionals, if Seatle's professionals, they're
going to win this game. You know, the Giants they've
been just stuck in peanut butter for years and years. Offensively,
they knew it. That's why they got neighbors with the
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six pick. Obviously there was quarterbacks on the board and
the persons of J. J. McCarthy, Michael Pennix and bow
Knicks that were taken thereafter. But they made the decision, Hey,
we've got to get playmakers for Daniel J.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now you don't have the.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Neighbors Darius Slayton, Wandelle Robinson, Jalen Hyatt.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's the three receivers.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Nobody scares you by NFL standards, these guys are are
at the very bottom. And in fact, you know, I
look at this stuff chart it you know, get you know,
Nerd missine out on this stuff. And every year the
Giants are in the bottom three four five in in
terms of worst offensive line, in the bottom three four
five in terms of targets. I've said to you here,
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here's my proposition for Daniel Jones, and I'll probably end
up being proven wrong, but i just want you to
consider this. At any time that we've been a fan
in any year, you can always say that there's the
team that it's the easiest to play quarterback, meaning got
the best targets, got the best line, best coaching, what
have you. And then there's rank them in order no ties,
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there's the thirty second, which would be the most difficult
team to play for. I've had the opinion that Daniel
Jones is a talented guy. He's a big dude who
moves really well, and the Giants have been that team
that's it's harder to be the quarterback for the Giants
in the last three, four or five years than any
other team. And I'll just say this to me, he's
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like Alex Smith. Alex Smith Smith, of course, a big
dude who moved really well. Number one overall pick. His
first six years in the league, Alex Smith won thirty
eight percent of his games. You've got Dan to Jones,
He's in his sixth year. He's won thirty seven point
three percent of his games, so almost identical from year
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seven and beyond, when Alex Smith had good people around
him and better coaching and whatever. Alex Smith won sixty
nine percent of his games. I mean that's like, I
think there's only like three or four quarterbacks. I should
have looked it up. I think there's only three or
four quarterbacks who were over seventy percent in their career.
So I'm not saying that Daniel Jones is going to
be that for right now. Alex Smith deserves the you know,
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the a clear gap, you know, a secretary in the
Belmont type of gap between he and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And so it's just cheap talk.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But as you watch this guy now, maybe Sunday, maybe
Daniel Jones is gonna have great time and receivers is
gonna be making one head of catches and then running
Scott free. And you can said, what was Millan talking
about on Friday? But that is not what we've seen
for the last three or four years. I think he's
a good quarterback, but I still think he's got a
lousy team around him and Seattle can't drop this. I
don't care if he played on Thursday night football last
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night and then you're playing on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Can I lose this game? You get Nuosu back, possibly hopefully?
What does how does the defense look different when Nuosu's
in there versus when he's not in there?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, the problem with and there's all kinds of stats
I don't have in front of me, but from twenty
twenty three a precipitous drop off with Noosu when he
was out, I mean, like startling all the numbers.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So the numbers show.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
That he's really a correlation to better defense.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Of course, he acquired Leonard Williams.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There's other factors going on, and so it's hard to
isolate the variabiles. But but I think he's the arguably
their best uh certainly edge player. And you know if
you if you get your best edge player back, it
just gives you more uh more latitude. Now do we
do we know anything about Murphy and and Leonard Williams.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
He's out Williams in.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, Murphy and Cam Young are the only ones that
are out for now.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Okay, Well, getting Leonard Williams, I'm back is going to
really help. And and you know, I wish he would
have been obviously last week going against such a mature
and competent offense in Detroit, but you know you don't
have that you're playing at home. Uh But yeah, Noosu,
he's a guy. You know, we're seeing different. I'm just
kind of looking at how Mike McDonald is going to
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to work with a different For example, Draymont Jones was
a he he played a heck of a lot of
three technique. He was an inside player and an outside player. Uh,
he's almost exclusively at defensive end now, So you know,
how are they gonna use uh Nuosa when he comes
in and plays.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Are they gonna are they gonna have uh.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
What's called a four four technique four eye technique where
where there's somebody over the tackle and then he's outside
wide like a true thirty look, where where they force
an offense to either have to fan. That's where the
guard and the tackle they split out wide and and
so the tackle gets on Nusu. So what alignment is
gonna be the next innermost guy? If the next innermost
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guy is is on the offensive tackle, then that creates
a problem because you're not gonna put a running back
on him, so you know a lot of schematic things,
but but it's exciting to get him back.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, man, I am terribly impressed with you, knowing
always impressed.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
We'll talking a week, Buddy Sammon, first time for everything,
an a last thanks guys all right here meiling with us. Uh,
don't forget postgame show with him and Deck after the
game on Sunday, We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
John Stanton has spoken.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
We'll tell you to who and what he said next
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now with you, here's Zadian dig.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
All right, before we get going with this thing, what
do you say we take a brief respite, take a
walk down memory lane. September fifteenth, nineteen eighty four, Washington
at Number two, Michigan, Michigan Stadium and Arbor, Michigan on CBS.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Ten to three.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Washington leads the Michigan wolverinees here at Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Pat at the start of this telecast, you said one thing,
Hugh Milan of Washington has to take.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
On a bigger role.
Speaker 5 (00:59):
And it's a decisely what he did in the first half.
Remember last week he really didn't throw the ball very well.
This week he has. He's what he's ten to twelve
for seventy one yards. He's kept drives alive, he's throwing
the ball really short control type of passes. Gary Crowd
today announced it one hundred and three thousand and seventy two,
the largest draft Washington was played.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Before in a regular season game. Totally by the rose ball.
You're bailing back wide.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Open this paddle cift, paddassipers of y'all touchdown Washington.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
That's unbelievable. And I am terribly impressed with you, Melander.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Wow, as your wife ever said that, by the way,
she's terribly impressed with you.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Melons to drop? Can we cannot get a drop?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I think the guy pretty much said, just stunk the
week before again on that day, well, we stunk our
way to twenty sixth to nothing went over Northwestern.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But he was not inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
You know, I was watching tape all week of Miami,
the defending champions had lost to Michigan the week before,
and and Bernie Cozart throwing six interceptions. Yeah, and so
the plan was like, hey, let's just you know, just
try and get completions, no saxon, no interceptions. But but
then the event was good day for Washington, certainly with
the Purple rain defense. Yeah, you know that that's the
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ultimate closer and they were. They were there if the
offense did just enough, and that's what we did and
then and it was all about that defense.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Well, I'm glad that we have that piece of audio
there because that was not in the script.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
By the way.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
No, no, well, ninety five percent of the people that
were at that game are now dead, so I'm glad
to actually have they do to play here on the air.
But dude, here we are forty years later, man, right,
and the Huskies are playing Michigan again.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
They're doing it in Seattle.
Speaker 5 (02:38):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
First time they've come here was a two thousand and
one the Amaro Lol Rock Alexander game, because they lost
the next year. You and I were both out there
for that two thousand and two game when they had
twelve minutes, so you had twelve men in the field
and Philip Brabb, that son of a bitch, made that
teal goal to beat the Huskies at Michigan Stadium. But
this is a rivalry, no question about it for guys
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like us. What's you tell you what tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Man?
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well, you know, first of all, when you think of Michigan,
I mean, they're just to me, it's always sexy because
they're the number one team in the history college football
and wins they have. You know, this is highly subjective.
I think they have the coolest uniforms in all of sports.
But even if you don't like their uniforms, you have
to recognize that helmet is just iconic. And and if
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you just if you have a scale of academic ranking
plus athletic accomplishments, Michigan is arguably the premier institution, certainly
premier state school in the country. I mean, this is
this is big time stuff. Now you go to tomorrow
and I'm just looking at Orgy who looks like dk
Metcalf playing quarterback. But in two starts he had thirty
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two yards passing and then eighty six He's got one
hundred and eighteen yards passing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
In two starts. Like that's one quarter for Kirk Cousins.
So I just.
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I think it's I think it's gross football. You know,
the Ford pass was introduced in nineteen oh six. We're
taking this game back one hundred and eighteen years at least.
But but you know, I'll say this, for the running game,
it's not just okay, yeah, be prepared for the running game.
It's the style of the running game because what Michigan
does is they get in there and they run power encounter.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
What does that mean.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
We've heard his zone blocking where everybody kind of steps
in unison to the point of attack. You don't have
violent angles like that what Michigan specializes. If you're gonna go,
let's say off left tackle, everybody on the left side
is gonna block down and then you're gonna pull guys
from the backside a guard. Usually they go two tight ends,
and they're two tight end sets with Orgy as starter.
(04:39):
They've had fifty five plays of two tight ends, only
thirty four with one. So they're gonna get into two
tight end sets. They're gonna pull those shits and and
I'll tell you what. It's just that type of that
what we call gap scheme blocking. That is just a
test of wheels that you have to if you're the
end man online scrimmage. You know, we've talked about Durfy
whether or not his his ask. Whoever you are on
the end, you've got to eliminate space, You got to
(05:01):
close down, you gotta linebackers have to scrape hard. Defensive
tackles have to anchor against that double team. And really,
to me have you ever seen those slap competitions.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
What I'm talking about with you guys have to put
their hands behind their back and then they just they
just wind up.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
You know what's coming.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You can't move, but you got to just take that slap, right,
And that's what this game is gonna be. You know
exactly what they're gonna do, They're gonna it's just a
test of Really, it's a test of will. So I
think the crowd can inspire the defense, but so much
of this is just you know, what is your will?
What is your will to take on those physical blocks
(05:37):
to either shed Can you knife under some blocks and
make a few big plays to force a punt? Not
every block has to be taken on physically. There's other
ways to do it. But but nine out of ten times,
you just got to prove that you're the better man.
And we'll see what happens tomorrow if that can be
proven by Washington.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
I feel like this game is won with Washington's offense
on the field and how well they can keep that
defensive line off of Will Rogers and b Can they
at least get a semblance of a running game going.
And so when you when you look at the run game,
when you're when you're playing against a really good defensive
line with a couple of All American candidates, do you
like to run at those guys or do you like
(06:17):
to run away from those guys?
Speaker 4 (06:18):
It depends on what what type of player they are.
I mean, if these.
Speaker 6 (06:23):
Two these two uh, these two guys on the on
the defensive front formation.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, no, I I I've seen him play.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I would say Graham is a guy that you probably
want to run away from him.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
I think he's he's stronger.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You know, as a general rule, you just say, if
it's an athletic type of guy, you want to run
at him. If if if it's a strong guy, you
want to run away from them, right and and and
so you know, you know, you know, we'll we'll just
see how that plays out. But but one of the things,
you know, Washington in their endeavor to stop I look
(07:01):
and I say, can you play the eight man box?
And Washington thus far has they've played seventy two percent
with single safety, Michigan only forty five percent. So when
you know you got to bring that extra defender down
in the box, then that that Washington has done that
that favors now for Washington. You know, again Michigan having
(07:24):
less of a propensity, they play more too high structure.
You know, there may be some running opportunities, but they're
about fifty to fifty, as I said, forty five percent,
so sore, I can see it be more balanced.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Now here's a concern for me.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
If you take Orgy, it's they're going to lull you
into sleep getting back to Michigan on offense. And so
I think that you should get that free safety, get Nosy,
bring him down to play.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
You know, we said it's an eight man front.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
If the free safety plays shallow and he kind of
can kind of feel he's not going to make stops
for three yard games, but he might make a an
eleven yard gain a six yard gain instead, which might
be the difference between a pun and a first down.
So how you play the free safety, Washington's free safety,
that's important. But here's here's a concern. If you're coaching
(08:12):
the Husky secondary, you're watching tape and Orgy on play
action is only five for twelve for forty seven yards
with a long of fifteen.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
That's important.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
They have not seen anybody do what I'm concerned about
which is lollya, lolio, lollya, and then I'm sneaking behind you.
Orgy right now is oero for three on go routes.
Those are deep routes up the sideline, and he's oh
for one on post routes. He has not hit anything deep.
And so what you're doing, if you're coaching Washington, is like, hey, listen,
(08:45):
this is all hands on deck to stop the run.
By the nature of everything we've been discussing, but we
don't want to have that one like play action get
behind you that beats you, and you can't show it
on tape that this happened.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
You just got to tell him, you know, you just
got to say you know that it can happen. So
you got to be focused.
Speaker 4 (09:02):
If you're those Washington corners, I would say play them
inside shade, because I just said you're going to take
the safety out of it and bring him down. So
the corners have to Washington cornerbacks should play more inside.
Conscious that that corresponds with Michigan's weakness, because Orgy is
only six out of fifteen throwing to the out outside
(09:23):
the numbers and a three point seven yards per temp.
So you tell your Washington corners play inside. Don't worry
about the oddie. He's not a great outside thrower, yep.
But for most importantly, don't get beat by the go
route or the post. You're not gonna see it on tape,
but you got to know it's a potential.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Well, it looks like to me just looking at the numbers.
And again, I know it's only week six. We can't
get a real full picture just from looking at stats yet.
Maybe come back, you know, early November, late October, whatever,
But on paper, it looks like the only thing that
Michigan might be truly elite at this year is stopping
the run. They're only allowing two point seven five yards
(09:58):
per carrying, number six in the country in rushing defense.
To do have this Mullings kid who's averaging seven yards
of carry on offense, thirty fourth on in rushing offense.
So I mean, I'm just looking at the weaknesses you
of Michigan's football team and the strengths of udub's offense
and thinking, I want to just rip this secondary apart.
They're one hundred and third and passing defense. They've allowed
(10:20):
ten passing touchdowns already. They only allowed eight last season.
This is not the same passing defense that we saw
play Michael Pennocks in Houston Men.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Yeah, I mean, if you think you can get big
plays and protect and we've seen a number of times
where Will Rogers has had that nice touch on the
deep ball, and you know that's kind of a processing thing.
Just how much do I need to lead my guys?
So I think he has some innate.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Skills that way.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
I would think that Jed Fishes is thinking, hey, I
got a couple of guns in my holster on each hip.
I mean I got Jonah Coleman on one hip, and
I got this ability to have a big play pass
offense in the other. And I think he's gonna want
to really probe on each side. And I don't think
he's thinking, well, I'm gonna go heavy this.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
I think Washington has the potential to have a relatively
balanced attack.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
We know we're not going to see it from Michigan's offense. Well,
do you.
Speaker 6 (11:09):
Want to have a faster pace because when you're the
more weaponized team, which certainly Washington is offensively, I mean,
you want to play this game in the thirties and
instead of in a box.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
Well, I think if you can get up on Michigan, yes,
and I think those are usually dictated by Okay, how
much can you dictate coverage? How much you know, can
you impact the conditioning, because if you're going no huddle,
then obviously the Michigan defense they cannot make substitutions if
they can't get into their exotic looks and they're going
(11:41):
relatively vanilla and they just make a couple of calls, Hey,
we're we're cover three, or we're cover one, or we're
cover four, you know, and and and you can get
vanilla looks. They're easy to process for Will Rogers, Those
to me would be the reasons why you go up
tempo and and and with a veteran quarterback, he can
handle that. But that would be uh, you know, the
guiding factor. I mean, we've seen it with Ryan Grubb
(12:03):
on thus far this season. He's used the no huddle
to really good effect. And maybe we'll see that tomorrow. Well,
let's spend a few minutes here here. You're talking about
the game on Sunday. Giants got a bunch of guys out,
including Mylakue neighbors. Devin Singletary is doubtful if you look
at the touches and targets for Giant offensive players, if
Singletary doesn't play, that means fifty one percent of their
(12:25):
touches and targets are gone for this game on Sunday.
How concerned should we be about the Hawks losing this game? Well,
I just think if they're professionals, if Seatle's professionals, they're
going to win this game. You know, the Giants they've
been just stuck in peanut butter for years and years. Offensively,
they knew it. That's why they got neighbors with the
(12:47):
six pick. Obviously there was quarterbacks on the board and
the persons of J. J. McCarthy, Michael Pennix and bow
Knicks that were taken thereafter. But they made the decision, Hey,
we've got to get playmakers for Daniel J.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Now you don't have the.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Neighbors Darius Slayton, Wandelle Robinson, Jalen Hyatt.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
That's the three receivers.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Nobody scares you by NFL standards, these guys are are
at the very bottom. And in fact, you know, I
look at this stuff chart it you know, get you know,
Nerd missine out on this stuff. And every year the
Giants are in the bottom three four five in in
terms of worst offensive line, in the bottom three four
five in terms of targets. I've said to you here,
(13:28):
here's my proposition for Daniel Jones, and I'll probably end
up being proven wrong, but i just want you to
consider this. At any time that we've been a fan
in any year, you can always say that there's the
team that it's the easiest to play quarterback, meaning got
the best targets, got the best line, best coaching, what
have you. And then there's rank them in order no ties,
(13:50):
there's the thirty second, which would be the most difficult
team to play for. I've had the opinion that Daniel
Jones is a talented guy. He's a big dude who
moves really well, and the Giants have been that team
that's it's harder to be the quarterback for the Giants
in the last three, four or five years than any
other team. And I'll just say this to me, he's
(14:11):
like Alex Smith. Alex Smith Smith, of course, a big
dude who moved really well. Number one overall pick. His
first six years in the league, Alex Smith won thirty
eight percent of his games. You've got Dan to Jones,
He's in his sixth year. He's won thirty seven point
three percent of his games, so almost identical from year
(14:31):
seven and beyond, when Alex Smith had good people around
him and better coaching and whatever. Alex Smith won sixty
nine percent of his games. I mean that's like, I
think there's only like three or four quarterbacks. I should
have looked it up. I think there's only three or
four quarterbacks who were over seventy percent in their career.
So I'm not saying that Daniel Jones is going to
be that for right now. Alex Smith deserves the you know,
(14:54):
the a clear gap, you know, a secretary in the
Belmont type of gap between he and Daniel Jones.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
I know it.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
And so it's just cheap talk.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
But as you watch this guy now, maybe Sunday, maybe
Daniel Jones is gonna have great time and receivers is
gonna be making one head of catches and then running
Scott free. And you can said, what was Millan talking
about on Friday? But that is not what we've seen
for the last three or four years. I think he's
a good quarterback, but I still think he's got a
lousy team around him and Seattle can't drop this. I
don't care if he played on Thursday night football last
(15:25):
night and then you're playing on Sunday.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
Can I lose this game? You get Nuosu back, possibly hopefully?
What does how does the defense look different when Nuosu's
in there versus when he's not in there?
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Well, the problem with and there's all kinds of stats
I don't have in front of me, but from twenty
twenty three a precipitous drop off with Noosu when he
was out, I mean, like startling all the numbers.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
So the numbers show.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
That he's really a correlation to better defense.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Of course, he acquired Leonard Williams.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There's other factors going on, and so it's hard to
isolate the variabiles. But but I think he's the arguably
their best uh certainly edge player. And you know if
you if you get your best edge player back, it
just gives you more uh more latitude. Now do we
do we know anything about Murphy and and Leonard Williams.
Speaker 6 (16:20):
He's out Williams in.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Yeah, Murphy and Cam Young are the only ones that
are out for now.
Speaker 4 (16:25):
Okay, Well, getting Leonard Williams, I'm back is going to
really help. And and you know, I wish he would
have been obviously last week going against such a mature
and competent offense in Detroit, but you know you don't
have that you're playing at home. Uh But yeah, Noosu,
he's a guy. You know, we're seeing different. I'm just
kind of looking at how Mike McDonald is going to
(16:45):
to work with a different For example, Draymont Jones was
a he he played a heck of a lot of
three technique. He was an inside player and an outside player. Uh,
he's almost exclusively at defensive end now, So you know,
how are they gonna use uh Nuosa when he comes
in and plays.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Are they gonna are they gonna have uh.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
What's called a four four technique four eye technique where
where there's somebody over the tackle and then he's outside
wide like a true thirty look, where where they force
an offense to either have to fan. That's where the
guard and the tackle they split out wide and and
so the tackle gets on Nusu. So what alignment is
gonna be the next innermost guy? If the next innermost
(17:27):
guy is is on the offensive tackle, then that creates
a problem because you're not gonna put a running back
on him, so you know a lot of schematic things,
but but it's exciting to get him back.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
All right, man, I am terribly impressed with you, knowing
always impressed.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Good stuff.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
We'll talking a week, Buddy Sammon, first time for everything,
an a last thanks guys all right here meiling with us. Uh,
don't forget postgame show with him and Deck after the
game on Sunday, We're gonna break.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
John Stanton has spoken.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
We'll tell you to who and what he said next
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