February 3, 2025 • 17 mins
Hugh Millen joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to react to Jerry Dipoto’s comments earlier today about the team’s offense plus give an in-depth breakdown of Super Bowl 59 this weekend including Mahomes, the Chiefs’ schemes, Eagles defense and his pick.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us right now on the radio program. I had
what Milner a little more at four with Hugh. We've
heard him on the air a couple of times today,
but I just need a little more. I don't know
about you, but I need more. So every Monday we
get more at four with Hugh Miller joining us on
the air. And here I apologize if we're a little
bit worked up right now, but you can blame Jerry
Depoto for.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh my god, Jerry Depoto.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know, it reminds me there was a Greek philosopher
by the name of Zeno ze n O about five
hundred years before Christ, and he posited the following.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You can't walk.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You can't walk across a room ever, because to get
all the way across the room, you have to first
go fifty percent, and before you go fifty percent, you
have to go twenty five percent. And because you can
divide it in infinite fractions, he had this equation that
just said you can never walk across the room, which
is of course absurd, but it sounds like the absurdity
(00:56):
that's coming out of Jerry Depoto when he refers to
these the abstract stats to somehow convince himself that the
offense doesn't need help. I mean, just look out of
thirty teams, the Mariners were twentieth and runs. They were
twenty ninth in both hits and batting average ops twenty second.
(01:16):
Look another philosopher, Freud. He said, sometimes a cigar is
just a cigar. Stop analyzing it's a bad offense. You
know it's a bad offense. Stop trying to tell us
it doesn't need help.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, hallelujah.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, particularly being condescending about it. I mean, it's one
thing to tell us that we need that it doesn't
need help, and then to make fun of us that
we believe it needs help. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The funny thing is if they win. If they win,
we're all gonna smoke cigars.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
By the way, it's a but it's a sibling to
what he said in the fifty four percent Best conference
when when he said, look, you don't really under you know,
not everybody understands this I do, which is extremely condescending.
And it's like, dude, like, don't try and tell us
it's raining as you're pissing on our head. And so
(02:06):
at any event, you know that, And then that awkward chuckle.
He repeated that, So, I don't know, I just I
would imagine there's a faction within the Mariners, maybe the
ownership group, maybe the media department. They just cringe and
they hold their breath every time this guy comes on
to try and explain something.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Heugh Let's talks in football.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Is this Kansas City team better or worse than the
one that you saw the Super Bowl win the Super
Bowl last year?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, I think that certainly on paper you can say
that they're worse. There's a lot of metrics where you
just look and you say that the Eagles are the
better team. I mean, in terms of the explosive play differential,
you got Kansas City's at twenty third, Philadelphia's is fourth.
(02:55):
Passing yards per attempt differential, Kansas City is twentieth Philadelphia's first.
This Kansas City team offensively, they've lost the big play
power and obviously Tyreek Hill was when they were at
their zenith in that regard, but for a number of
reasons they've diminished. But they do compensate for it in
(03:16):
the following On third down Pap mahomes number one in
the NFL forty seven point eight percent, So they're gonna
dink and dunk you the air yards of twenty plus percent.
Mahomes is thirty second, dead last in the league. But
they're gonna get those first downs, and even if you
get them into a third and seven plus, Mahomes is
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number one at that figure. And so I think that's
that's a big part of it is is just Okay,
how are the big plays that we don't expect Kansas
City to make? But if you're gonna have that kind
of offense, you're gonna have to convert you know, two, three,
four third downs in a scoring drive. And can Philadelphia's
(03:57):
really white hot defense stop that? Well, I gotta be
honest with you, Hugh, our our beloved Buffalo Bills going
down last Sunday still has me scarred right after what
the Chiefs did to Buffalo. And you know, there's gonna
be a big part of me that will respect and
appreciate three in a row if the Chiefs get it done.
But I think I find myself as the days go by,
kind of rooting for the Eagles to win this thing
(04:17):
on Sunday, how about you?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, I mean, and part of it is the residue
or the lingering effect for Tom Brady. I don't expect
to convince any anybody else. You fan, how you want
a fan. You're a big Brady guy, right, I'm a
big Brady fan.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I really used to despise Pat Mahomes. I didn't like
how he walked. I didn't you know, I don't like
how he held his helmet. You know, it's like, dude,
put your helmet on, Craig correct. Right, But then they
had that documentary on Netflix called Quarterback and it was
he and helped me out, Dick what it was Cutkirk
Cousins and who was the third there was? There's another quarterback,
(04:57):
Matthew no Safford.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Irrelevant to the conversation, Yeah, to your point, Yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I would just say this, when you look at Mahomes,
there's that saying, you know, don't forget where he came from.
And when you look at his life, like when he's done,
he married a gal that he had a crush on
when he was a sophomore in high school. Right that
his trainer from middle school he convinced to move from
Texas up to Kansas City. So he goes to the
(05:27):
trainer that he's had since he before he grew shorties
and then after the game, you know, he comes home,
he hangs out with his dad, his mom. You know,
these and everybody around him are the people that were
around him when before he got big. So in that regard,
I think he is likable. I will say this that
in nineteen sixty it was a pivotal year for the
(05:50):
National Football League and the AFL came into existence, as
did a number of teams in the NFL. Number of
new teams. You had the Atlanta Falcons, the Vikings, and
Dallas Cowboys. In that year nineteen sixty three teams came
into existence in Texas, the Cowboys, the Texans who would
become the chief and the Houston Oilers. All three of
(06:12):
them were essentially oil brats. You had Clinton Murchison for
the Cowboys, you had Lamar Hunt for the Chiefs, and
Bud Adams for the Oilers. All three of them. How
did they get the money to buy into the NFL?
Their daddy bottom the team period, end of story. And
Lamar Hunts a dad is a guy. Tell me if
(06:34):
this doesn't sound like hoity toity, Haroldson Lafayette Hunt Junior,
I mean, that's like Thurston. How the third, like like
somebody actually best at third. It was Haroldson Lafayette.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Tell me that guy's wearing a boat tie by the way,
on top of.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Boat tell you, oh yeah, and spinning an umbrella like
the do down in Orleans. But so for me, when
I look at like Jerry Jones, a lot of people
paying Jerry Jones, there's one thing I respect about Jerry Jones.
That dude started his oil business, and all these other
guys they inherited it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So you got Lamar Hunt, the Lamar Hunt Trophy.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Lamar Hunt did.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Hunt never did anything. He was a fret guy at SMU.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And then he handed the team down to Clark Hunt,
who has it now, And that's all he ever did.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And so I just I don't know, I get it.
It's the American way.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
If I had multiple billion dollars, I'd probably buy a
team and give them to my kids too, as would
all of the rest of us. But I have a
certain appeal for these owners that were self made and
and and the Hunts are not.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Hugh.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I remember now, I remember who that quarterback was, and
I know why we forgot it. It was very forgettable
Oregon quarterback. I so he what kind of a game
are we going to see? Because I see Philadelphia number
one in points allowed, can't say number four in points allowed.
Their offenses are not nearly that highly ranked. And I'm
(08:00):
seeing a forty nine and a half over under and
I'm like, that's a shootout line over under. So what
kind of a game are we going to see? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think it really depends on Okay, this is a
very room temperature take. Okay, be prepared, not a hot take.
You're I'm not going to scald Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
All right, so it's kind of lame, and maybe this
is the time where I get up and use the
cam come back.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, you know what sounds got ya? This is you're
not going to be scalded by this take. So the
Saquon Barkley is to me the key to the game
because I don't believe that Jalen hurts despite the fact
that he has great weapons, I don't think he has
the chops to uh to put this team on his back.
(08:44):
If he is in behind the chains and having to
make plays, he just hasn't exhibited that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And uh, you know, so I think that that from.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
A standpoint of Jalen hurts, Kansas City here's some philosophy
for you that shefs. This is five man rushes. The
Chiefs are tenth in the league. The Eagles with Vic
Fangio or twenty seventh. Six man pressures, the Chiefs are seventh,
the Eagles are thirty first, and seven man pressures. This
(09:14):
is Spagnola coming at Jalen Hurts third in the NFL
seven plus, whereas Fangio playing defense just wants to sit
back and he's twenty fifth. So big discrepancy in the
ability and the eagerness to come after the quarterback. And
in the case of Jalen Hurts, I just wonder whether
or not he has the chops, the sophistication to decipher
(09:37):
the some of these reads. I was talking with my
buddy Jason Garrett earlier in the week and he had
he had Kellen Moore on the Cowboys staff, the offensive
coordinator who is now the offensive coordinator Philadelphia, and he said, hey, look,
Kellen has done a good job of just really simplifying
what you have for Jalen Hurts and you know, not
(09:59):
being complex.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Like he would have liked to.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And uh, and that to me is a little bit
of a problem for Philadelphia because if you're talking about Spagnola.
By the way, I've seeded the conversation about best defensive
mind in the planet that was before last year's I'm
giving it back to uh Spagnola. So we'll put McDonald
at number two. So the number one guy on defense
UH in the planet. You give him two weeks to
(10:24):
prepare for a guy who wants to keep things relatively simple,
a high school offense up against that defense.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think that's a little bit of trouble for the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, Hugh Millan's with us. You watched the Grammys last night,
by the way, Hugh, No, okay, good, all right, all right,
that was good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
What's the relevance?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No beyond content? Sorry, and that whole controversy. Did you
see that?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
By the way, last night, I watch your Grammy and then.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh man, yeah, Jackson knows. Is that the big down,
the big huge No, I'll show it to here. I'll
just send it to you off fear. I guess the
reason why I bring it up. I mean, if he
hadn't seen it, this analogy of make no sense. But
she was wearing a basically a see through gown and
it showed every yeah, yeah, like everything Okay, right, So
is there now any mystery to what the Chiefs do offensively, Like,
(11:12):
is Andy Reid bringing new stuff to the table that
nobody has seen before, or is this going to be, Hey,
we've got Kelsey, we've got a good line, we've got
the best quarterback maybe in the history of the NFL.
Try and stop us.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, I doubt that they might have one or two wrinkles.
Of course, you know, the objective is to make similar
plays look different and different plays look similar.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Nobody does a better job.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I think that that Andy Reid when you look
at the key plays in that game against Buffalo, Buffalo
was trying to play man man and they were trying
to play press. They weren't off different levels where they
would avoid getting picked. And so Andy Reid just he
recognized that and he says, Okay, I'm gonna run a
bunch of shallow crosses. Even that one to to p
(11:58):
Ryan that sealed it third down pass. That was what's
called a burst rot where where p Ryan lines up
on the right side of the formation. This is from
the offensive perspective, but he runs into the b gap
on the left side, so it's like a shallow cross
and they got all this picking action. The linebacker recognized
Burst on that side he was in an outside leverage,
(12:19):
so you could have frozen the picture and said, uh,
does the linebacker is he in a good Yeah, he
recognized and he he's not out leveraged yet. But he
had to wade through two or three uh uh, you know,
including Kelsey two or three received was three. I shouldn't
say two or three, it was three. Three Chief receivers
that are endeavoring to pick him, and he's trying to
(12:40):
wade it through.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's like trying to get to a car wash without getting.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Wet, and then and then next scene he's slowing it
down and now the Chiefs have it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Contrasts that to on the biggest play of the game
from the Bills perspective, fourth and five. It's like Joe
Brady was up there, you know, the young buck uh uh,
watching Andy Reid and said, man, these these uh these
mess concepts. That's a Mike Leach term, where we have
all these shallow crosses with the pick. He man, these
messes are working great, and at fourth and five he
dials up mess. Here's the deal, Spagnola. Although he brought pressure,
(13:11):
he didn't play man and man behind it. He played
zone so that he didn't be susceptible to those picks.
And so, you know, it just seems like they do
that all the time. You have Andy Reid has the
right call on offense at the most critical time, and
he saves that little burst route like I described, because
he hadn't run the burst rout. In fact, Pete Ryan
hadn't even touched the ball the entire game, so and
(13:33):
they hadn't had a completion on the burst.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Route until the most important play.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And then the best blitz they had was on fourth
and five, Josh Allen had two got two defensive backs
in the B gap between the garden and tackle on
his throwing side shoulder. I mean, you can't get better
than that, And it just seems like the Chiefs seem
to do that all the time. So I think the
Eagles have a better team. Obviously the Chiefs have a
better quarterback. But if there's an argument to be made
(13:59):
about how the Chiefs the infior team, are going to
be the Eagles the superior team, it's gonna because in
those moments, it's not just the players, it's the coaching staff.
They the Chiefs coaching staff was just a little bit better,
and they've shown it over and over again.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So what do you think about Sirianni?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I mean, is he just a middle of the road
coach or is he better than the middle.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Of the road coach?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, they they lost six to seven last year and
then and it seemed like everything was unraveling. And then
they lost to the Buccaneers and then they started two
and two this year. At that point, yeah, he was,
he was in jeopardy. But what they finished, the twelve
thirteen wins, I don't I don't see how Look, I
(14:40):
think how He Roseman, the GM is in the discussion
along with Brett Veach and the dude up at Detroit.
I can't remember his name, but in the discussion for
the best GM probably would say that it's Howie Roseman.
And so you could you could look at sirian and say, dude,
you've been handed the best ross in football. Sure, maybe
(15:01):
minus the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
But it's also possible he's a good coach too, right,
both Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, well, look right,
I mean, he ain't on any hot seat in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
No, I mean, if if we're going to show in Philadelphia.
We're not talking about canon, Siriani. We're just trying to say, Okay,
what can be the next step if indeed they don't
come through?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
All right, before you go, this is what everybody's been
waiting for. We're here at the Emeral. Queen Dick's got
thousands of dollars burning a hole in his pocket. He
is literally, say, fifteen feet away from the window here
at the sports heading over there and feen feet away.
Your answer and what you do here will dictate whether
(15:43):
or not Dixon or Aubry go to a good college.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Threat.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, it's either working at Burgers or going to Yale. Well,
we'll see, we'll see, all right, Chiefs, Chiefs are giving
a point and a half.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, yeah, Well I don't do predictions. I'm gonna just.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You'll do one here because I'm telling you to do
one who wins the game, because I don't want the
Chiefs to win. The Eagles win the game. Well that's
a horrible I've already bet the game, Hugh.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Anyways, of course I bet the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So I mean, honestly, if you had fifty grand to
burn to bet, you take the Eagles to win.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Your heart because I want the Chiefs to win.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, you know you're a you know that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, Hey, I learned long ago. There is there making predictions. No, no,
because every time you make a good prediction get you
Nobody remembers it. But if you make a bad one,
that's how do you get Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
No kidding. By the way, we're all aware of that.
We go to talk.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I talked to you on Friday here or are you
going to be uh, you know, fifteen sheets at You'll
be at the.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Wasted I'll be at the waste management. Yeah, we'll see
the waste management. I've done it before. I don't know
I've straggled through. Make sure that Jackson is near the
dump button.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Hey, that that that h get that get that sugar
out of the holster man.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You you need to have that at the.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Riddy that black tar harrow when you talked about last year,
Just just don't touch that stuff, all right, the Buffalo fans,
that's right, all right, dude, we gotta run enjoy it.
We'll see it, all right, Humil, that's gonna be with
us on Friday. I'm gonna take the day off and
head down there to the Wasted Management and have some
fun and be back on Monday. So but we'll be
at the Queen. But you got you'll be fine on Friday.
Mike Hogrin will be with you Friday. We gotta talk
(17:30):
about the Homegroun thing. By the way, I don't think
people realize what the hell's going on here behind the
scenes with this Hoolgrin thing, because Mike doesn't know what
the hell. Nobody has any idea what's going on. Jackson
asked me how Mike finds out if he's been in
the inducted or not.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
How does Mike find out if he's been industed or not.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I don't know, neither does he. Next ninety three three
kJ r FF
Joining us right now on the radio program. I had
what Milner a little more at four with Hugh. We've
heard him on the air a couple of times today,
but I just need a little more. I don't know
about you, but I need more. So every Monday we
get more at four with Hugh Miller joining us on
the air. And here I apologize if we're a little
bit worked up right now, but you can blame Jerry
Depoto for.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Oh my god, Jerry Depoto.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
You know, it reminds me there was a Greek philosopher
by the name of Zeno ze n O about five
hundred years before Christ, and he posited the following.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
You can't walk.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
You can't walk across a room ever, because to get
all the way across the room, you have to first
go fifty percent, and before you go fifty percent, you
have to go twenty five percent. And because you can
divide it in infinite fractions, he had this equation that
just said you can never walk across the room, which
is of course absurd, but it sounds like the absurdity
(00:56):
that's coming out of Jerry Depoto when he refers to
these the abstract stats to somehow convince himself that the
offense doesn't need help. I mean, just look out of
thirty teams, the Mariners were twentieth and runs. They were
twenty ninth in both hits and batting average ops twenty second.
(01:16):
Look another philosopher, Freud. He said, sometimes a cigar is
just a cigar. Stop analyzing it's a bad offense. You
know it's a bad offense. Stop trying to tell us
it doesn't need help.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Yeah, hallelujah.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Well, particularly being condescending about it. I mean, it's one
thing to tell us that we need that it doesn't
need help, and then to make fun of us that
we believe it needs help. It's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
The funny thing is if they win. If they win,
we're all gonna smoke cigars.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
By the way, it's a but it's a sibling to
what he said in the fifty four percent Best conference
when when he said, look, you don't really under you know,
not everybody understands this I do, which is extremely condescending.
And it's like, dude, like, don't try and tell us
it's raining as you're pissing on our head. And so
(02:06):
at any event, you know that, And then that awkward chuckle.
He repeated that, So, I don't know, I just I
would imagine there's a faction within the Mariners, maybe the
ownership group, maybe the media department. They just cringe and
they hold their breath every time this guy comes on
to try and explain something.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Heugh Let's talks in football.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Is this Kansas City team better or worse than the
one that you saw the Super Bowl win the Super
Bowl last year?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Well, I think that certainly on paper you can say
that they're worse. There's a lot of metrics where you
just look and you say that the Eagles are the
better team. I mean, in terms of the explosive play differential,
you got Kansas City's at twenty third, Philadelphia's is fourth.
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Passing yards per attempt differential, Kansas City is twentieth Philadelphia's first.
This Kansas City team offensively, they've lost the big play
power and obviously Tyreek Hill was when they were at
their zenith in that regard, but for a number of
reasons they've diminished. But they do compensate for it in
(03:16):
the following On third down Pap mahomes number one in
the NFL forty seven point eight percent, So they're gonna
dink and dunk you the air yards of twenty plus percent.
Mahomes is thirty second, dead last in the league. But
they're gonna get those first downs, and even if you
get them into a third and seven plus, Mahomes is
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number one at that figure. And so I think that's
that's a big part of it is is just Okay,
how are the big plays that we don't expect Kansas
City to make? But if you're gonna have that kind
of offense, you're gonna have to convert you know, two, three,
four third downs in a scoring drive. And can Philadelphia's
(03:57):
really white hot defense stop that? Well, I gotta be
honest with you, Hugh, our our beloved Buffalo Bills going
down last Sunday still has me scarred right after what
the Chiefs did to Buffalo. And you know, there's gonna
be a big part of me that will respect and
appreciate three in a row if the Chiefs get it done.
But I think I find myself as the days go by,
kind of rooting for the Eagles to win this thing
(04:17):
on Sunday, how about you?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Well?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Yeah, I mean, and part of it is the residue
or the lingering effect for Tom Brady. I don't expect
to convince any anybody else. You fan, how you want
a fan. You're a big Brady guy, right, I'm a
big Brady fan.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
You know.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I really used to despise Pat Mahomes. I didn't like
how he walked. I didn't you know, I don't like
how he held his helmet. You know, it's like, dude,
put your helmet on, Craig correct. Right, But then they
had that documentary on Netflix called Quarterback and it was
he and helped me out, Dick what it was Cutkirk
Cousins and who was the third there was? There's another quarterback,
(04:57):
Matthew no Safford.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Irrelevant to the conversation, Yeah, to your point, Yeah, But.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I would just say this, when you look at Mahomes,
there's that saying, you know, don't forget where he came from.
And when you look at his life, like when he's done,
he married a gal that he had a crush on
when he was a sophomore in high school. Right that
his trainer from middle school he convinced to move from
Texas up to Kansas City. So he goes to the
(05:27):
trainer that he's had since he before he grew shorties
and then after the game, you know, he comes home,
he hangs out with his dad, his mom. You know,
these and everybody around him are the people that were
around him when before he got big. So in that regard,
I think he is likable. I will say this that
in nineteen sixty it was a pivotal year for the
(05:50):
National Football League and the AFL came into existence, as
did a number of teams in the NFL. Number of
new teams. You had the Atlanta Falcons, the Vikings, and
Dallas Cowboys. In that year nineteen sixty three teams came
into existence in Texas, the Cowboys, the Texans who would
become the chief and the Houston Oilers. All three of
(06:12):
them were essentially oil brats. You had Clinton Murchison for
the Cowboys, you had Lamar Hunt for the Chiefs, and
Bud Adams for the Oilers. All three of them. How
did they get the money to buy into the NFL?
Their daddy bottom the team period, end of story. And
Lamar Hunts a dad is a guy. Tell me if
(06:34):
this doesn't sound like hoity toity, Haroldson Lafayette Hunt Junior,
I mean, that's like Thurston. How the third, like like
somebody actually best at third. It was Haroldson Lafayette.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Tell me that guy's wearing a boat tie by the way,
on top of.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Boat tell you, oh yeah, and spinning an umbrella like
the do down in Orleans. But so for me, when
I look at like Jerry Jones, a lot of people
paying Jerry Jones, there's one thing I respect about Jerry Jones.
That dude started his oil business, and all these other
guys they inherited it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
So you got Lamar Hunt, the Lamar Hunt Trophy.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
Lamar Hunt did.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Hunt never did anything. He was a fret guy at SMU.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And then he handed the team down to Clark Hunt,
who has it now, And that's all he ever did.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
And so I just I don't know, I get it.
It's the American way.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
If I had multiple billion dollars, I'd probably buy a
team and give them to my kids too, as would
all of the rest of us. But I have a
certain appeal for these owners that were self made and
and and the Hunts are not.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
Hugh.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
I remember now, I remember who that quarterback was, and
I know why we forgot it. It was very forgettable
Oregon quarterback. I so he what kind of a game
are we going to see? Because I see Philadelphia number
one in points allowed, can't say number four in points allowed.
Their offenses are not nearly that highly ranked. And I'm
(08:00):
seeing a forty nine and a half over under and
I'm like, that's a shootout line over under. So what
kind of a game are we going to see? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:08):
I think it really depends on Okay, this is a
very room temperature take. Okay, be prepared, not a hot take.
You're I'm not going to scald Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
All right, so it's kind of lame, and maybe this
is the time where I get up and use the
cam come back.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, you know what sounds got ya? This is you're
not going to be scalded by this take. So the
Saquon Barkley is to me the key to the game
because I don't believe that Jalen hurts despite the fact
that he has great weapons, I don't think he has
the chops to uh to put this team on his back.
(08:44):
If he is in behind the chains and having to
make plays, he just hasn't exhibited that.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
And uh, you know, so I think that that from.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
A standpoint of Jalen hurts, Kansas City here's some philosophy
for you that shefs. This is five man rushes. The
Chiefs are tenth in the league. The Eagles with Vic
Fangio or twenty seventh. Six man pressures, the Chiefs are seventh,
the Eagles are thirty first, and seven man pressures. This
(09:14):
is Spagnola coming at Jalen Hurts third in the NFL
seven plus, whereas Fangio playing defense just wants to sit
back and he's twenty fifth. So big discrepancy in the
ability and the eagerness to come after the quarterback. And
in the case of Jalen Hurts, I just wonder whether
or not he has the chops, the sophistication to decipher
(09:37):
the some of these reads. I was talking with my
buddy Jason Garrett earlier in the week and he had
he had Kellen Moore on the Cowboys staff, the offensive
coordinator who is now the offensive coordinator Philadelphia, and he said, hey, look,
Kellen has done a good job of just really simplifying
what you have for Jalen Hurts and you know, not
(09:59):
being complex.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Like he would have liked to.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
And uh, and that to me is a little bit
of a problem for Philadelphia because if you're talking about Spagnola.
By the way, I've seeded the conversation about best defensive
mind in the planet that was before last year's I'm
giving it back to uh Spagnola. So we'll put McDonald
at number two. So the number one guy on defense
UH in the planet. You give him two weeks to
(10:24):
prepare for a guy who wants to keep things relatively simple,
a high school offense up against that defense.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I think that's a little bit of trouble for the Eagles.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, Hugh Millan's with us. You watched the Grammys last night,
by the way, Hugh, No, okay, good, all right, all right,
that was good.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
What's the relevance?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
No beyond content? Sorry, and that whole controversy. Did you
see that?
Speaker 4 (10:46):
By the way, last night, I watch your Grammy and then.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Oh man, yeah, Jackson knows. Is that the big down,
the big huge No, I'll show it to here. I'll
just send it to you off fear. I guess the
reason why I bring it up. I mean, if he
hadn't seen it, this analogy of make no sense. But
she was wearing a basically a see through gown and
it showed every yeah, yeah, like everything Okay, right, So
is there now any mystery to what the Chiefs do offensively, Like,
(11:12):
is Andy Reid bringing new stuff to the table that
nobody has seen before, or is this going to be, Hey,
we've got Kelsey, we've got a good line, we've got
the best quarterback maybe in the history of the NFL.
Try and stop us.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Yeah, I doubt that they might have one or two wrinkles.
Of course, you know, the objective is to make similar
plays look different and different plays look similar.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Nobody does a better job.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
But I think that that Andy Reid when you look
at the key plays in that game against Buffalo, Buffalo
was trying to play man man and they were trying
to play press. They weren't off different levels where they
would avoid getting picked. And so Andy Reid just he
recognized that and he says, Okay, I'm gonna run a
bunch of shallow crosses. Even that one to to p
(11:58):
Ryan that sealed it third down pass. That was what's
called a burst rot where where p Ryan lines up
on the right side of the formation. This is from
the offensive perspective, but he runs into the b gap
on the left side, so it's like a shallow cross
and they got all this picking action. The linebacker recognized
Burst on that side he was in an outside leverage,
(12:19):
so you could have frozen the picture and said, uh,
does the linebacker is he in a good Yeah, he
recognized and he he's not out leveraged yet. But he
had to wade through two or three uh uh, you know,
including Kelsey two or three received was three. I shouldn't
say two or three, it was three. Three Chief receivers
that are endeavoring to pick him, and he's trying to
(12:40):
wade it through.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
It's like trying to get to a car wash without getting.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Wet, and then and then next scene he's slowing it
down and now the Chiefs have it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Contrasts that to on the biggest play of the game
from the Bills perspective, fourth and five. It's like Joe
Brady was up there, you know, the young buck uh uh,
watching Andy Reid and said, man, these these uh these
mess concepts. That's a Mike Leach term, where we have
all these shallow crosses with the pick. He man, these
messes are working great, and at fourth and five he
dials up mess. Here's the deal, Spagnola. Although he brought pressure,
(13:11):
he didn't play man and man behind it. He played
zone so that he didn't be susceptible to those picks.
And so, you know, it just seems like they do
that all the time. You have Andy Reid has the
right call on offense at the most critical time, and
he saves that little burst route like I described, because
he hadn't run the burst rout. In fact, Pete Ryan
hadn't even touched the ball the entire game, so and
(13:33):
they hadn't had a completion on the burst.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Route until the most important play.
Speaker 3 (13:37):
And then the best blitz they had was on fourth
and five, Josh Allen had two got two defensive backs
in the B gap between the garden and tackle on
his throwing side shoulder. I mean, you can't get better
than that, And it just seems like the Chiefs seem
to do that all the time. So I think the
Eagles have a better team. Obviously the Chiefs have a
better quarterback. But if there's an argument to be made
(13:59):
about how the Chiefs the infior team, are going to
be the Eagles the superior team, it's gonna because in
those moments, it's not just the players, it's the coaching staff.
They the Chiefs coaching staff was just a little bit better,
and they've shown it over and over again.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
So what do you think about Sirianni?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
I mean, is he just a middle of the road
coach or is he better than the middle.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Of the road coach?
Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, they they lost six to seven last year and
then and it seemed like everything was unraveling. And then
they lost to the Buccaneers and then they started two
and two this year. At that point, yeah, he was,
he was in jeopardy. But what they finished, the twelve
thirteen wins, I don't I don't see how Look, I
(14:40):
think how He Roseman, the GM is in the discussion
along with Brett Veach and the dude up at Detroit.
I can't remember his name, but in the discussion for
the best GM probably would say that it's Howie Roseman.
And so you could you could look at sirian and say, dude,
you've been handed the best ross in football. Sure, maybe
(15:01):
minus the quarterback.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
But it's also possible he's a good coach too, right,
both Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean, well, look right,
I mean, he ain't on any hot seat in my opinion.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
No, I mean, if if we're going to show in Philadelphia.
We're not talking about canon, Siriani. We're just trying to say, Okay,
what can be the next step if indeed they don't
come through?
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Right?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
All right, before you go, this is what everybody's been
waiting for. We're here at the Emeral. Queen Dick's got
thousands of dollars burning a hole in his pocket. He
is literally, say, fifteen feet away from the window here
at the sports heading over there and feen feet away.
Your answer and what you do here will dictate whether
(15:43):
or not Dixon or Aubry go to a good college.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Threat.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay, it's either working at Burgers or going to Yale. Well,
we'll see, we'll see, all right, Chiefs, Chiefs are giving
a point and a half.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, yeah, Well I don't do predictions. I'm gonna just.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
You'll do one here because I'm telling you to do
one who wins the game, because I don't want the
Chiefs to win. The Eagles win the game. Well that's
a horrible I've already bet the game, Hugh.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
Anyways, of course I bet the Chiefs.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So I mean, honestly, if you had fifty grand to
burn to bet, you take the Eagles to win.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Your heart because I want the Chiefs to win.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, you know you're a you know that.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Yeah, Hey, I learned long ago. There is there making predictions. No, no,
because every time you make a good prediction get you
Nobody remembers it. But if you make a bad one,
that's how do you get Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
No kidding. By the way, we're all aware of that.
We go to talk.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I talked to you on Friday here or are you
going to be uh, you know, fifteen sheets at You'll
be at the.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Wasted I'll be at the waste management. Yeah, we'll see
the waste management. I've done it before. I don't know
I've straggled through. Make sure that Jackson is near the
dump button.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Hey, that that that h get that get that sugar
out of the holster man.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
You you need to have that at the.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Riddy that black tar harrow when you talked about last year,
Just just don't touch that stuff, all right, the Buffalo fans,
that's right, all right, dude, we gotta run enjoy it.
We'll see it, all right, Humil, that's gonna be with
us on Friday. I'm gonna take the day off and
head down there to the Wasted Management and have some
fun and be back on Monday. So but we'll be
at the Queen. But you got you'll be fine on Friday.
Mike Hogrin will be with you Friday. We gotta talk
(17:30):
about the Homegroun thing. By the way, I don't think
people realize what the hell's going on here behind the
scenes with this Hoolgrin thing, because Mike doesn't know what
the hell. Nobody has any idea what's going on. Jackson
asked me how Mike finds out if he's been in
the inducted or not.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
How does Mike find out if he's been industed or not.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I don't know, neither does he. Next ninety three three
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