October 25, 2024 • 29 mins
Hugh Millen joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to debate the Dawgs and Seahawks relative to their leagues in 2024, plus discuss the Indiana and Buffalo games coming up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Now with you, here's SOFTI and dig twelve.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I want to crack myself. Illinois is six and one,
not six. And oh, by the way, my fault felt
terrible about that. All right here he is joining us
on the radio show with insight that nobody else could
even possibly dream of providing. Our friend Humilin, How war
you man? Uh good?
Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm good for Minosia, That's for sure. I'm well, but
by I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You know where we're at right now?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Not Indiana.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I am at a Rose Belt High school stronghold known
as the Duchess. Oh, jess, how much how much fun
did you have back here?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I got some memories of that?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, which that order did those.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thursday night at the Duchess.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, that was a that was a fraternity staple for
really not just the Fijis, but but you know my
fight ELTs and.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Ham Kai Sigma kays.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, yeah, Well the imprints of Dick Bard and here
Millen are all over this place. I'll tell you that
right now from Roosevelt's perspective. But it's great to be here.
We're here with San Juan Seltzer. And before we talk
about the games coming up this weekend, why do you
weigh in on Dick Fane's claim that the Huskies are
a better college football team right now than the Seahawks
are an NFL team?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Go ahead, well, I think you have first for me,
just my way of reasoning, I would say, all right,
let's establish a reasonable and the best methodology and then
insert the facts. And I think that what you do
is you say, all right, what is the ranking of
the Seahawks. We know there's thirty two teams, right, and
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then is it fair to say, well, compare that to
Huskies against one hundred and thirty teams or just the
Power five teams? And so I look, there's sixty seven teams.
We could write a spreadsheet to do the exact but
just figure it's roughly double. So if if they if
the Seahawks are are the twelfth team in the NFL.
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Then you'd say, well, are the are the Huskies the
twenty fourth or twenty fifth or higher? And so then
you'd say okay, So that to me would be the
reasonable way to do it. Then you say, okay, well
who gets to weigh in? Because there's subjective subjectivity?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Rank them right?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
How do you rank them?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Well, as far as the Seahawks, I've seen the NFL
dot Com, I mean that's the NFL's own website. They've
got the Seahawks ranked. They've got them ranked number fourteen.
ESPN has at least on one of them, it says.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
NFL Power Rankings all thirty twos.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, Dick, they've got one that has the Seahawks that
at twelve.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now they have an FPI the what did you say
it was FPI.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yeah, the FPI's got them at twenty one out of
thirty two.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, so there's different you know, they're different, you know, twelve, fourteen,
twenty First, as far as okay, so.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Just in the middle, they're somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So so then then the polls in the top twenty
five U seven receiving votes that would make it thirty
two teams. The Huskies are not in there in the
coaches poll twelve receiving votes that would be the top
thirty seven. They're not in there, and the power rankings
are right around thirty seven thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So but what about the eye test?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
What about the eye test? Because I mean we're talking
about two games.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I mean the Huskies are in both polls if they
get one more yard against Rutgers and one more yard
here Washington State.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So just yeah, every everybody, I would say, I'm leaning
towards I think the Seahawks are better team.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But I don't think it's outlandish. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I think that if you because we don't obviously we
don't know how the rest of the season is going
to play out. But Dick, I would I would look
and I say, if you want to talk about the
eye test, tell me who's the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
If Seattle played Kansas City three times five times? You
know what, do I think they could be competitive? Or
would they? Would they get boat raised? Well, if they're healthy,
I think they could be pretty competitive. Now, part of
that has to do with the standard deviation in the
NFL is tighter than the standard vational team in college.
Right if I do, I think who's the best team?
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You know, Oregon's ranked number one, We'll get a chance
to answer that Ohio State's ranked number one in the FPA.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
If if if the Huskies right now had to.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Play Oregon three times or Ohio State three times, I
think that I feel like the Seahawks would be closer
to the pinnacle of the NFL, and the Huskies would
be closer to the pinnacle.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
But I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I don't think Dick's proposition is outlandish. And if I
was in a debate contest, I reached in the hat
and I drew and I had to argue Dick's point,
I feel like there'd be points that I could raise,
and I could argue the point with some bigor and
and and possibly persuade some people.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I don't think Dick's opinion on this is just absurd
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Dick, I think.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's you know, a narrow but but probably clear advantage
for the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But but I'm not gonna I think I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Dick on this because I think his points are are
well taken on a lot of factors.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I think calling it not absurd is a win for you.
That's a win for Dick Fate. It's not absurd. Well,
he might be.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Look, he he cites some stats that that I like
his methodology, and and if you accept those those assumptions
and in terms of the rankings, then that that would
you know that that would be if I'm if I'm
judging this debate, I I could see uh pushing into
the to the Dick is the winner.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And I also think there's one factor that we're not
factoring in here, and that's the health of the Seahawks
versus the health of the Huskiesskies have been relatively healthy
this year and the Seahawks have not. The eye test
is the eye test.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I'm just talking about what the Seahawks have looked like
versus what the Huskies have looked like.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I've seen more.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Can one does team better football from Washington? There's a
reason for that, because the Seahawks are banged up tremendously.
But I'm not predicting what is gonna happen. But again,
but again, that's got nothing to do with the future.
It's got with how they've played. The eye tests tells
you the Huskies have been more competitive than the SS have.
It's because of the injuries. I'm telling you the Seahawks
have been hit huge by the injury bug.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
But I don't even factors into what might I was
original point. Why was it not factored in?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
If your eye test tells you the Huskies have been
more competitive, the reason why the Seahawks have not been
as competitive is because they're playing with one hand tie
be either the pat.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So you're admitting that the Huskies have looked more competitive.
I'm telling you that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
If you do believe that, if and if that is
all that matters to you. I look at wins and
losses way more than you do. Yes, you just look
at the way teams look. I look at the end
of the day, because nothing else freaking matters besides wins
and losses in this sport unless you're having a season
where there's twelve games left to go and you have
plenty of time to get your act together. If this
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was like week three of the college football I'd be
more apt to even care about that stuff. But there's
only five weeks left. The Huskies are done from a
playoff perspective, the Seahawks have it, what you know, eleven
games left to go or ten games left to go
to get this thing turned around? All right, let's do.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
We have not seen the Seahawks at really close to
their full correct and we've seen much more of the
Huskies at add or near. You know, you're never going
to be at one hundred percent, but the Huskies have
been added near their best. And you know that, you know,
the lost of Rutgers that looks more and more perplexing
as we go along, right, and and the Michigan win
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looks less and less impressive as we go on. Like
I said, if I'm if I'm judging, and I give
a narrow nod to uh the Seahawks being a better team.
But I but I do think Dick makes some very
good points, and I don't think it's at all.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Let's let's get to the Seahawks. Where do we start
with these guys? Buffalo and Town? Why don't we start
with Ernest Jones, the new linebacker. We haven't gotten your
take on the newer the linebacker corps. Jerome Baker is gone,
Ernest Jones is in. What do you make of this kid?
That they picked up from Tennessee who spent last year
with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Well, I think it's a very significant move because you're
getting a guy who's got three and a half years
of experience. He started for the Rams. We had Mike
McDonald say that at first put him on the map
when he watched the Super Bowl, Well, curiosity got the
best of me. I went back and watched the coaches tape,
the intercut every single play of that Super Bowl to say, well,
what stood out to him? Well, the plays that stood
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out to me, which I'm sure stood out to him,
there's about a half a dozen. Three of them were
pressures on blitzes, and I think that's very important to note.
I mean, he ran over Joe Mixon, got a sack,
he got a couple other pressures, forced Joe Burrow to
escape the pocket. He had a couple of open field
tackles and man and man coverage out on swing routes,
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one to the left, one to the right, so he
was he's kind of covering sideline. The sideline one was
for a three yard line on a swing route to
mix and that was impressive. So I think it was
more that. And then he had he was playing what's
called the low hole player and man and man where
you have a deep free safety and then a shallow linebacker.
Some people call it a lyric a rat uh and
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and he just read the eyes of Burrow and and
uh was able to break up an option route to
chase on it, and so he gets a PBu there.
So those were the hand half a dozen plays. Again,
the blitzing component. But as I watched him on the tape,
here's a guy that's gained weight since that, and I
think it's good weight. You know, he just looks, he
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just looks fill fuller through. I'm calling it the posterior
change the glutes, the hamstrings. Definitely, this guy's been squatting
and deadlifting, and so there's more power than than he
had as a rookie. And I think that's a big
part of why he's here. And uh, you know he
had Mike McDonald made a trade a couple of years
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ago with Rokwan Smith sent a second round, a fifth
round and uh And and they're starting linebacker A. J.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Klein.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Now this is not to that level, but to send
a starter plus a fourth rounder for a guy who's
not quite twenty five years old, this guy figures to
be guys at the Seahawks middle linebacker, you sign him,
I'd say another, you know, four or five years, it's
not unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
UH.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And and and if you if you sign a guy
from the NFL and use that fourth rounder as opposed
to draft a guy. When you draft a guy, there's
always you know, more variable because you're evaluating him in college. Obviously,
so this guy has to be your guy. And certainly
the the UH the concern with Dodson was a guy
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that was athletic but not terribly physical in his gaps
but not over overpowering. And so now you put in
Ernest Johnson, you slide Dotson out to uh the outside linebacker.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Now, depending on the.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Coverages Jones Jones, yea, yeah, Joe, what I say.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You acquired Jones, he's your middle linebacker. You take Dodson
and you put him out at the outside linebacker. Now,
sometimes they're those responsibilities are very similar. I'm not going
to get into details with the coverages in fronts, but
but sometimes those guys are A and B gap defenders
and hooks own in the run game. Hooks owned defenders
meaning closest to the middle of the field shallow in
the passing game. Sometimes Dodson, who's now the will linebacker,
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if you want to play two high structure, you put
him out on the slot and you you you man
him way outside uh uh as what's called an overhang defender.
He may have to uh collapse in and get the
b gap on in certain run positions, but it's it's
less less of a power position that you're taking Dodson from.
And so really you got two new positions guys. You
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got a new Mic in Jones and you got a
new Will in Dodson. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And so?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
But but any event, I I like it because I
see a guy who has more physicality. If I just
sum it up there, he's just a stronger, more you know,
just more violent football player. Not as good an athlete
as Baker, but more violent and more more physical.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Hugh, I think you've mentioned that watching Josh Allen plays
like football porn.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Is that the h what you've used?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
And so how do you keep Josh Allen from gaining
ten to fifteen yards with his legs and at the
same time not getting beat over the top for.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Sixty Well, you've got to as far as keeping him
in the pocket, that's what you do with you know,
the very best. Now, he's not as fast as the
Lamar Jackins, obviously the Kyler Murray's, but when you when
you say, well he's two hundred and forty five pounds,
I think he's in the discussion for the top in
you know, two three runners at the quarterback position. Lamar Jackson,
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I put number one right, But he gets outside the pocket.
You've just got to make sure that you don't get
too high. The defensive ends can't get too high and
allow him to scape out of the side hatch, meaning
the b gap inside the tackle. So you got to
keep him in the pocket there. And then as you said,
you've got to be aware of this guy's hose.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I mean he's.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Got the top three strongest arms I've ever seen in
my life. And since twenty eighteen, airy yards fifty yards
or more from line scrimmage. Now this is line of
scrimmage used the quarterbacks five or six yards further back.
But Josh Allen has twenty six. The next closest guy
is Russell Wilson twenty one. Pat Mahomes has seventeen. There's
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only two guys that have thrown the ball sixty five
yards or more in the last six years from the
line of scrimmage. It's Josh Allen and Derek Carr and
none for Mahomes. I mean, this guy can just can
in this ball forever. And what's really key about that
is he can take a deep drop instead of going
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a five step drop like most quarterbacks do to throw
a go route from under center. He can go seven
steps from shotgun. He can lolly dag all he wants,
play action fake casually go back five steps. Most mortals
they run out of room, like like you're gonna outrun
my arm. But he can throw it deep down the field,
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and so corners who are in his own turn looking
at a lot of times he get a cue on
the drop of the quarterback. They say, oh, he's going
to seven step drop. He doesn't have the arm to
throw a go round. It's got to be a comeback.
So then they squat on the stop routes. You can't
squat with him because he can you know, at any time,
he can just uncork it an eighty yard er, literally
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an eighty yarder down the field.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Hey, he will do some Huskies next segment. I want
to ask you about Gino and the game you saw
Sunday against Atlanta. I said on the air, I thought
it was his best quarterbacking since he came to Seattle,
the way that he handled the position, in all aspects
of what it takes to play quarterback in the NFL.
I thought he was at his best so far since
he took over for Russell. Am I crazy for thick
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of that?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
No, you're not crazy. I thought it was a very
good game. I think the New Orleans game has been
a couple of Detroit games. He might push me in
the top five. But I broke down his game tape
and there's a handful of minuses we won't get in
there that I think precluded from, in my mind, from
allotting him that much.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But he handled that kind of pressure against those teams too.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
He's had times where he's had to Yes, he's had
to handle pressure. But he had a completion late in
the second quarter. I still can't get over it. I
watched the end zone copy. He throws a deep crawl
route to Tyler Lockett for about I don't know, it
must have been about a sixteen yard completion, and he
had Charles Cross and whoever was rushing on Charles Cross
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in his last and I watched it slow motion like
five times, ten times. I was like, how in the
hell did he not move his feet and slide in
the pocket to evade, But he was just totally impervious
to it, and he smokes a beautiful ball to Tyler
in an intermediate cut down the field. And I mean
that that ability to you know, look, there's one of
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three things you can do in RTP response to pressure.
I don't mean the pressure like fourth quarter, end of
the game. I mean the pass rush. You can either
stay in the position and ignore everything, or that's level one.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Level two would be.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Slide a step or two and then stay in the
pocket hopefully stay in the position and then throw down
the field. Or level three get get the hell out
of dodge, just get out of the pocket and try
and create. And there's times where when guys do that
that level three thing, you say, wait a minute, you
escape the pocket prematurely, there was an opportunity to stay
in there. Gino Smith, in terms of his grades, like
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whether he does one, two, or three, almost every time
it's the right time, it's the right thing.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
If he gets out of dodge. It's because he had to.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
If he can slide just a step, that's exactly the
right amount his decisions. He's an innate decisions because you're
looking down the field. His ability is kind of instinctively
navigating that pocket, which has been much most of the year.
I think it's been sensational. I would say that's the
best part of his game thus far in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No doubt. All Right, we're gonna break. Let's talk some dogs.
You're miling with us Indiana up next. We'll get to
that from the Duchess next. On a Friday on ninety
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Speaker 1 (17:15):
To the Washington State Beat Commissions Football Friday with Safti
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Speaker 3 (17:26):
All right, back here at the Duchess with san Juan
Seltzer and a Friday Night Safty, Dick Jackson, Hu Milan
rejoins Ryan Grubb coming up with a six pm hour
as well. But hre before we get to Husky talk
real quick, we want to clean up the Seahawk conversation.
If DK Metcalf doesn't go Sunday. What does that mean
for Ryan Grubbs offense. Well, I just want to clean
up one thing.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Our boy, Silver, your boy, He said, the Bills are
gonna quote blitz early and often. I'm like, whoa, I've
studied this tape. That's not what I see. So I
looked it up. The Bills in terms of their blitzes,
which a blitz is defined by the NFL as five
or more rushers on the quarterback. Yeah, they're number thirty two,
dead last. The Vikings have one hundred and seventeen. They're
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number one. The average is fifty five, and again the
Bills last at thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
He said, well, wait a minute, said early and often,
So I.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Filter, Who's Silver? Who you said? Silver? Said that?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh Sterling?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Did I say Solky Easterling?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I'm sorry, I was thinking of Michael Silver.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
There'll be bronze by tomorrow for Trier.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, jeez.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So he said they'll blitz surly and off. And maybe
they will blitt surly and off because I thought Jimmy
Lake had a horrible game plan. Maybe this defensive coordinator
is gonna come after Jerrell.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But there's no evidence of that that in the first quarter.
So I just told you all the blitzes in first
quarter filtered for that. The Bills have just seven blitzes
all season. That's tied for twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So look, there might be all kinds of reasons why
Sterling's right, he's been He's got way more right over
the years than wrong. But don't let it be because
of the blitz scene of the Bills that let you
make the decision, because he he wished on that one.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Got it? Got it? All right, we're gonna you want
to do a thought on DK. We get to the Huskies. Now,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I can't do anything quick with DK doing No, no, no,
I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I can do it.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Well, we'll save it for Sunday's postgame deal. Indeed, if
they suffer without DK breakdown.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Let's get to the Huskies. Curtis Rourke is out Tavi
on Jackson's in What does that mean to the number
one scoring offense in college football?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, I you know, I watched their I watched this kid.
You know, you know he's a big dude, throws the ball,
you know. To give you an idea of their their
big plays, you've got uh uh, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm trying to find it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Uh in an event you had this rock guy. There's
notes everywhere, this rooric guy. He has passes twenty yards
or more, gains of more. He's got thirty three to
thirty three. To put that in perspective, Will Rogers has
twenty two. This guy was a big play machine guy.
You had a nice touchdown the field, big dude. This
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is an extremely well coached football team. Guys on both
sides of the ball. They're fundamentally sound. I like their
play calling. They're aggressive. I mean they're looking to put
a sword through your throat. There's a certain arrogance that
this guy Siggs has and in a good way, and
so they're coming at you. But yeah, I think that
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obviously it hurts him, that's their starting quarterback, but it
may not hurt him as much as we think.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Hugh the Demon Williams Will Rogers conundrum continues. You would
you have what you would consider an ideal balance for
those two And I promised Softy I would ask you
last Friday when I hosted with you, if and I
forgot if DeMont, if you would be ticked off if
you were Will Rogers and you came in and you saw,
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by nothing no fault your own.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You saw your playing time go down with our freshmen.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, I wouldn't like it at all, And I can
promise you I bet nickol I have that he doesn't
like it. And what's been very stifling to me is
the odd nature of how he gets replaced.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Foremost among that was in the Cougar game with three
minutes to go, the Husky's needing a touchdown. Here you
have Will Rogers. He has this unbelievable he rolls right,
stops or going towards the lake. Reminded me of when
Pennick's got the ball with a chance to beat Oregon
last year and he throws this unbelievable ball forty five
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yard game to Giles Jackson, just walks it out there
to him on man cover, just drops it over the
shoal of gorgeous ball. And he gets smoked as he's
doing it, and so he's got a mouthful of recycled
Rubbert pellets for his efforts.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And then he stands up and what's happening.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
He's getting pulled off the field, like what in the
hell was that? And so now you put in demand
and now with his kid's got to go out there.
And then they said, well, now we got to the
ten yard line, let's let's, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Try and make a play. How is that not distracting?
How is that not distracting?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I got what he got in though, as I recall, right,
and that's.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Uh, he hit one when he went back in he
hit a shallow cross of a completion, but he had
a slant route to his left. What wasn't a great
route by Boston, wasn't a lot of opportunity. But if
I if I'm nitpicking about his his uh execution, Rogers,
was it a plus?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Could have it been better? I just I'm surmising, is
he distracted? Just like what the hell do I have
to do? And you know, look, I just there's all
kinds of message like Michigan. For example, halftime in Michigan,
the unbelievable buzz Rogers is thirteen to twenty, one hundred
and eighty nine yards, two touchdowns, one hundred and seventy
seven passer rating. He's on his way for a three
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hundred and seventy eight yard, four touchdown game if you
double what he had done in the first half. And
jet Fish is inviewed by the network and down the
red zone he says. He says, yeah, well, you know
we missed that last pass there. You know that we
should have hit. But you know, and I don't know,
there's just a certain energy that I don't like. If
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you asked me if I was will Rogers, I wouldn't
you know. It's like he's the redheaded step child, like
Demon Williams is his boy, and he recruited him. That's
his guy. He had to take Rogers because Rogers had
already committed and he needed a body. And so the
manner in which he replaces him makes no sense to me.
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It's not when the Huskies are, you know, struggling, it's
you know, things are going great and he'll just put
in Demon Williams. Well, no, I don't like it. I
think it disrupts all kinds of chemistry. And final point
on this, I've heard from people on the inside. This
guy is a premier leader Rogers. Some people say even
better than Pennix. A great I promise you there's clicks
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on that team. Promise you those offensive one every offensive
line I've ever been on. I was on the Cowboy office.
They had the best offensive line in football. You go
out on a bar, everybody Grouse's lineman. Grouse. I guarantee
you they have clicks. Is like, and there's a linemen.
They're not gonna say it to the media, but when
they're together and they go out for a pitcher of beer,
they said, they go, what the hell's coach doing?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's crap.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Why are they doing that to Will?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah? Well, yeah, he'd driven them all the way from
the minus twelve to the plus eleven and then gets
a false start on the maaha and they pull them
off the field and give the battle to mont Williams.
Then they put Will Rogers back in on third and
twelve and say, go save the drive. Right, So, yeah,
you had two false starts.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
You know, you got a different, different, different cadence, and
it's just it's very disruptive to the rhythm. Demon Williams
is not some you know, Tim Tebow or something. You know,
some some ballyhooed guy, like he's not the first nice
looking athlete that's been a true freshman.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well let me cut you off there, because that leads
to the red zone commerce, right. I mean a lot
of these issues we're talking about are taking place inside
the twenty yard line, Washington is fifty percent. Hugh touchdown
percentage in the red zone Indiana. What I say Indiana
was Dick, Indiana is eighty four. They're eighty four percent.
That's touchdowns. That is marvelous. Thirty seven to forty four.
(25:20):
That's even better than the Huskies were a year ago,
Hugh under Michael Pennix. So what the hell's going on
inside the twenty because Dick Dick's point is they're competitive,
they're playing better than the other teams. Well, okay, in
the end, they're not, though, because they're losing, and they're
losing because they can't score touchdowns in the red zone.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, I get to double dip on this because points
per play the University of Washington is ninety fifth in
the country, which speaks to the red zone. And when
I say double dip, just out of for information, the
Buffalo Bills are number one in that stat so an
ad rate.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I got to have a quick parenthetical there. Red zone.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
You know, I looked at you know, just thirteen stats
where the Huskies ranked rush rush is per TD. They
take nine point six rushers to get it. That's one
hundred and twenty six in the nation yards after cats
on the completion. Nobody's breaking tackles on these two point
two yards. That's one hundred and seventh first down per
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attempt only twenty percent. That's ranked seventy eighth. I'm not
going to go through all these stats. Twelve of the
thirteen sets that I just look up that are these
are all red zone stats that I just described. Twelve
out of thirteen they're in the bottom fifty of the country,
and the one that isn't they're forty eighth. Like, so
they're doing they're doing nothing in the reds all.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Okay, so I watched the tape.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
They're they're not They're not coming off the ball in
terms of their yards before contact zero point seven eight yards.
That's eighty second in the country. So they're not they're
not moving guys. So there's not a lot of holes
for Jonah and in the other backs and then in
the passing game, I would just say this, I don't
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see a lot of creativity. I don't you know when
I watched grub as the offensive coordinator for the University
of Washington, what I would constantly think when I've studied
the tape, having been a coach, before and even a coach,
uh you know, a head coach in middle school, but
coach in the high school and studying everything. You know,
when you watch a play, you go, wait a minute,
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that's an expensive play. What does that mean? It means
it's so exotic that it's like a one time per
per game call. And because you can't you can't do
that a second time. And there's so many times with grub,
I go, that is an expensive play. That's meaning it's
a lot of practice time and you don't get to
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run it a lot and over and over, and now
go I go, WHOA, that's an expensive play.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
WHOA, that's an expensive play.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
When I watch the Huskies on there on their tape,
I just rolled the red zone, I just filter it
and I just watched the play, you know, just just
in side zone, you know, just zone blocking, kind of
Vanilla's concepts. I I don't see a lot of like whoa,
what's happening here? Like like I've got to rewind the
tape to go what are they trying? What's happening here?
(28:14):
What misdirection? Everything just seems like an easy read. So
I think they need to be more creative in the
running game. In the passing game, and you know, obviously
there's an execution component to that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But I think they can be better. They've got to
be better.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
They can't just be that vanilla in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Well, we're gonna see how much better they are coming
out of the by tomorrow. Right. If there was ever
a time to kind of maybe change some stuff and
put some new packages in, it'd be this week. All right, man,
good stuff. And here Millen, we're gonna break Ryan Greup
coming up in the six pm hour. We haven't done
the DPI in a while. How old is Dixon now? Fourteen?
(28:55):
And we started this when he was how old? Eight eight?
How much is Dixon fames for change from eight to
fourteen years old?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Well, we only got him eleven.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Really is the only reason I want to do it.
I just want to hear what his voice sounds.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Why you keep holding this again?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yourck? I don't know, it's a tick.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Sounds terrible, It sounds terrible.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Is this better?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Is that better? Much better? Is this better than you?
Is this better? We're gonna break the bottom of the
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Speaker 3 (00:26):
I want to crack myself. Illinois is six and one,
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Speaker 4 (00:40):
I'm good for Minosia, That's for sure. I'm well, but
by I'm good.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
You know where we're at right now?
Speaker 5 (00:45):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Not Indiana.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
I am at a Rose Belt High school stronghold known
as the Duchess. Oh, jess, how much how much fun
did you have back here?
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I got some memories of that?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, yeah, which that order did those.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Thursday night at the Duchess.
Speaker 4 (01:01):
Yeah, that was a that was a fraternity staple for
really not just the Fijis, but but you know my
fight ELTs and.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Ham Kai Sigma kays.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Yeah, yeah, Well the imprints of Dick Bard and here
Millen are all over this place. I'll tell you that
right now from Roosevelt's perspective. But it's great to be here.
We're here with San Juan Seltzer. And before we talk
about the games coming up this weekend, why do you
weigh in on Dick Fane's claim that the Huskies are
a better college football team right now than the Seahawks
are an NFL team?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Go ahead, well, I think you have first for me,
just my way of reasoning, I would say, all right,
let's establish a reasonable and the best methodology and then
insert the facts. And I think that what you do
is you say, all right, what is the ranking of
the Seahawks. We know there's thirty two teams, right, and
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then is it fair to say, well, compare that to
Huskies against one hundred and thirty teams or just the
Power five teams? And so I look, there's sixty seven teams.
We could write a spreadsheet to do the exact but
just figure it's roughly double. So if if they if
the Seahawks are are the twelfth team in the NFL.
(02:12):
Then you'd say, well, are the are the Huskies the
twenty fourth or twenty fifth or higher? And so then
you'd say okay, So that to me would be the
reasonable way to do it. Then you say, okay, well
who gets to weigh in? Because there's subjective subjectivity?
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:26):
Rank them right?
Speaker 2 (02:27):
How do you rank them?
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Right?
Speaker 4 (02:28):
Well, as far as the Seahawks, I've seen the NFL
dot Com, I mean that's the NFL's own website. They've
got the Seahawks ranked. They've got them ranked number fourteen.
ESPN has at least on one of them, it says.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
NFL Power Rankings all thirty twos.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
Well, Dick, they've got one that has the Seahawks that
at twelve.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Now they have an FPI the what did you say
it was FPI.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
Yeah, the FPI's got them at twenty one out of
thirty two.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Yeah, so there's different you know, they're different, you know, twelve, fourteen,
twenty First, as far as okay, so.
Speaker 6 (03:07):
Just in the middle, they're somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
So so then then the polls in the top twenty
five U seven receiving votes that would make it thirty
two teams. The Huskies are not in there in the
coaches poll twelve receiving votes that would be the top
thirty seven. They're not in there, and the power rankings
are right around thirty seven thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
So but what about the eye test?
Speaker 6 (03:31):
What about the eye test? Because I mean we're talking
about two games.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
I mean the Huskies are in both polls if they
get one more yard against Rutgers and one more yard
here Washington State.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
So just yeah, every everybody, I would say, I'm leaning
towards I think the Seahawks are better team.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But I don't think it's outlandish. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
I think that if you because we don't obviously we
don't know how the rest of the season is going
to play out. But Dick, I would I would look
and I say, if you want to talk about the
eye test, tell me who's the best team in the NFL.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Kansas City?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (04:00):
If Seattle played Kansas City three times five times? You
know what, do I think they could be competitive? Or
would they? Would they get boat raised? Well, if they're healthy,
I think they could be pretty competitive. Now, part of
that has to do with the standard deviation in the
NFL is tighter than the standard vational team in college.
Right if I do, I think who's the best team?
(04:22):
You know, Oregon's ranked number one, We'll get a chance
to answer that Ohio State's ranked number one in the FPA.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
If if if the Huskies right now had to.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Play Oregon three times or Ohio State three times, I
think that I feel like the Seahawks would be closer
to the pinnacle of the NFL, and the Huskies would
be closer to the pinnacle.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
But I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I don't think Dick's proposition is outlandish. And if I
was in a debate contest, I reached in the hat
and I drew and I had to argue Dick's point,
I feel like there'd be points that I could raise,
and I could argue the point with some bigor and
and and possibly persuade some people.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
I don't think Dick's opinion on this is just absurd
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Dick, I think.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's you know, a narrow but but probably clear advantage
for the Seahawks.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
But but I'm not gonna I think I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Dick on this because I think his points are are
well taken on a lot of factors.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I think calling it not absurd is a win for you.
That's a win for Dick Fate. It's not absurd. Well,
he might be.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Look, he he cites some stats that that I like
his methodology, and and if you accept those those assumptions
and in terms of the rankings, then that that would
you know that that would be if I'm if I'm
judging this debate, I I could see uh pushing into
the to the Dick is the winner.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And I also think there's one factor that we're not
factoring in here, and that's the health of the Seahawks
versus the health of the Huskiesskies have been relatively healthy
this year and the Seahawks have not. The eye test
is the eye test.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
I'm just talking about what the Seahawks have looked like
versus what the Huskies have looked like.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
I've seen more.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Can one does team better football from Washington? There's a
reason for that, because the Seahawks are banged up tremendously.
But I'm not predicting what is gonna happen. But again,
but again, that's got nothing to do with the future.
It's got with how they've played. The eye tests tells
you the Huskies have been more competitive than the SS have.
It's because of the injuries. I'm telling you the Seahawks
have been hit huge by the injury bug.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
But I don't even factors into what might I was
original point. Why was it not factored in?
Speaker 3 (06:24):
If your eye test tells you the Huskies have been
more competitive, the reason why the Seahawks have not been
as competitive is because they're playing with one hand tie
be either the pat.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So you're admitting that the Huskies have looked more competitive.
I'm telling you that.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
If you do believe that, if and if that is
all that matters to you. I look at wins and
losses way more than you do. Yes, you just look
at the way teams look. I look at the end
of the day, because nothing else freaking matters besides wins
and losses in this sport unless you're having a season
where there's twelve games left to go and you have
plenty of time to get your act together. If this
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was like week three of the college football I'd be
more apt to even care about that stuff. But there's
only five weeks left. The Huskies are done from a
playoff perspective, the Seahawks have it, what you know, eleven
games left to go or ten games left to go
to get this thing turned around? All right, let's do.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
We have not seen the Seahawks at really close to
their full correct and we've seen much more of the
Huskies at add or near. You know, you're never going
to be at one hundred percent, but the Huskies have
been added near their best. And you know that, you know,
the lost of Rutgers that looks more and more perplexing
as we go along, right, and and the Michigan win
(07:38):
looks less and less impressive as we go on. Like
I said, if I'm if I'm judging, and I give
a narrow nod to uh the Seahawks being a better team.
But I but I do think Dick makes some very
good points, and I don't think it's at all.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Let's let's get to the Seahawks. Where do we start
with these guys? Buffalo and Town? Why don't we start
with Ernest Jones, the new linebacker. We haven't gotten your
take on the newer the linebacker corps. Jerome Baker is gone,
Ernest Jones is in. What do you make of this kid?
That they picked up from Tennessee who spent last year
with the Rams.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
Well, I think it's a very significant move because you're
getting a guy who's got three and a half years
of experience. He started for the Rams. We had Mike
McDonald say that at first put him on the map
when he watched the Super Bowl, Well, curiosity got the
best of me. I went back and watched the coaches tape,
the intercut every single play of that Super Bowl to say, well,
what stood out to him? Well, the plays that stood
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out to me, which I'm sure stood out to him,
there's about a half a dozen. Three of them were
pressures on blitzes, and I think that's very important to note.
I mean, he ran over Joe Mixon, got a sack,
he got a couple other pressures, forced Joe Burrow to
escape the pocket. He had a couple of open field
tackles and man and man coverage out on swing routes,
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one to the left, one to the right, so he
was he's kind of covering sideline. The sideline one was
for a three yard line on a swing route to
mix and that was impressive. So I think it was
more that. And then he had he was playing what's
called the low hole player and man and man where
you have a deep free safety and then a shallow linebacker.
Some people call it a lyric a rat uh and
(09:14):
and he just read the eyes of Burrow and and
uh was able to break up an option route to
chase on it, and so he gets a PBu there.
So those were the hand half a dozen plays. Again,
the blitzing component. But as I watched him on the tape,
here's a guy that's gained weight since that, and I
think it's good weight. You know, he just looks, he
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just looks fill fuller through. I'm calling it the posterior
change the glutes, the hamstrings. Definitely, this guy's been squatting
and deadlifting, and so there's more power than than he
had as a rookie. And I think that's a big
part of why he's here. And uh, you know he
had Mike McDonald made a trade a couple of years
(09:56):
ago with Rokwan Smith sent a second round, a fifth
round and uh And and they're starting linebacker A. J.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
Klein.
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Now this is not to that level, but to send
a starter plus a fourth rounder for a guy who's
not quite twenty five years old, this guy figures to
be guys at the Seahawks middle linebacker, you sign him,
I'd say another, you know, four or five years, it's
not unreasonable.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
UH.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And and and if you if you sign a guy
from the NFL and use that fourth rounder as opposed
to draft a guy. When you draft a guy, there's
always you know, more variable because you're evaluating him in college. Obviously,
so this guy has to be your guy. And certainly
the the UH the concern with Dodson was a guy
(10:45):
that was athletic but not terribly physical in his gaps
but not over overpowering. And so now you put in
Ernest Johnson, you slide Dotson out to uh the outside linebacker.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
Now, depending on the.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Coverages Jones Jones, yea, yeah, Joe, what I say.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
You acquired Jones, he's your middle linebacker. You take Dodson
and you put him out at the outside linebacker. Now,
sometimes they're those responsibilities are very similar. I'm not going
to get into details with the coverages in fronts, but
but sometimes those guys are A and B gap defenders
and hooks own in the run game. Hooks owned defenders
meaning closest to the middle of the field shallow in
the passing game. Sometimes Dodson, who's now the will linebacker,
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if you want to play two high structure, you put
him out on the slot and you you you man
him way outside uh uh as what's called an overhang defender.
He may have to uh collapse in and get the
b gap on in certain run positions, but it's it's
less less of a power position that you're taking Dodson from.
And so really you got two new positions guys. You
(11:47):
got a new Mic in Jones and you got a
new Will in Dodson. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (11:53):
And so?
Speaker 4 (11:54):
But but any event, I I like it because I
see a guy who has more physicality. If I just
sum it up there, he's just a stronger, more you know,
just more violent football player. Not as good an athlete
as Baker, but more violent and more more physical.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
Hugh, I think you've mentioned that watching Josh Allen plays
like football porn.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Is that the h what you've used?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
And so how do you keep Josh Allen from gaining
ten to fifteen yards with his legs and at the
same time not getting beat over the top for.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
Sixty Well, you've got to as far as keeping him
in the pocket, that's what you do with you know,
the very best. Now, he's not as fast as the
Lamar Jackins, obviously the Kyler Murray's, but when you when
you say, well he's two hundred and forty five pounds,
I think he's in the discussion for the top in
you know, two three runners at the quarterback position. Lamar Jackson,
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I put number one right, But he gets outside the pocket.
You've just got to make sure that you don't get
too high. The defensive ends can't get too high and
allow him to scape out of the side hatch, meaning
the b gap inside the tackle. So you got to
keep him in the pocket there. And then as you said,
you've got to be aware of this guy's hose.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I mean he's.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Got the top three strongest arms I've ever seen in
my life. And since twenty eighteen, airy yards fifty yards
or more from line scrimmage. Now this is line of
scrimmage used the quarterbacks five or six yards further back.
But Josh Allen has twenty six. The next closest guy
is Russell Wilson twenty one. Pat Mahomes has seventeen. There's
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only two guys that have thrown the ball sixty five
yards or more in the last six years from the
line of scrimmage. It's Josh Allen and Derek Carr and
none for Mahomes. I mean, this guy can just can
in this ball forever. And what's really key about that
is he can take a deep drop instead of going
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a five step drop like most quarterbacks do to throw
a go route from under center. He can go seven
steps from shotgun. He can lolly dag all he wants,
play action fake casually go back five steps. Most mortals
they run out of room, like like you're gonna outrun
my arm. But he can throw it deep down the field,
(14:14):
and so corners who are in his own turn looking
at a lot of times he get a cue on
the drop of the quarterback. They say, oh, he's going
to seven step drop. He doesn't have the arm to
throw a go round. It's got to be a comeback.
So then they squat on the stop routes. You can't
squat with him because he can you know, at any time,
he can just uncork it an eighty yard er, literally
(14:34):
an eighty yarder down the field.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Hey, he will do some Huskies next segment. I want
to ask you about Gino and the game you saw
Sunday against Atlanta. I said on the air, I thought
it was his best quarterbacking since he came to Seattle,
the way that he handled the position, in all aspects
of what it takes to play quarterback in the NFL.
I thought he was at his best so far since
he took over for Russell. Am I crazy for thick
(14:59):
of that?
Speaker 4 (15:00):
No, you're not crazy. I thought it was a very
good game. I think the New Orleans game has been
a couple of Detroit games. He might push me in
the top five. But I broke down his game tape
and there's a handful of minuses we won't get in
there that I think precluded from, in my mind, from
allotting him that much.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But he handled that kind of pressure against those teams too.
Speaker 4 (15:20):
He's had times where he's had to Yes, he's had
to handle pressure. But he had a completion late in
the second quarter. I still can't get over it. I
watched the end zone copy. He throws a deep crawl
route to Tyler Lockett for about I don't know, it
must have been about a sixteen yard completion, and he
had Charles Cross and whoever was rushing on Charles Cross
(15:40):
in his last and I watched it slow motion like
five times, ten times. I was like, how in the
hell did he not move his feet and slide in
the pocket to evade, But he was just totally impervious
to it, and he smokes a beautiful ball to Tyler
in an intermediate cut down the field. And I mean
that that ability to you know, look, there's one of
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three things you can do in RTP response to pressure.
I don't mean the pressure like fourth quarter, end of
the game. I mean the pass rush. You can either
stay in the position and ignore everything, or that's level one.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
Level two would be.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Slide a step or two and then stay in the
pocket hopefully stay in the position and then throw down
the field. Or level three get get the hell out
of dodge, just get out of the pocket and try
and create. And there's times where when guys do that
that level three thing, you say, wait a minute, you
escape the pocket prematurely, there was an opportunity to stay
in there. Gino Smith, in terms of his grades, like
(16:39):
whether he does one, two, or three, almost every time
it's the right time, it's the right thing.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
If he gets out of dodge. It's because he had to.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
If he can slide just a step, that's exactly the
right amount his decisions. He's an innate decisions because you're
looking down the field. His ability is kind of instinctively
navigating that pocket, which has been much most of the year.
I think it's been sensational. I would say that's the
best part of his game thus far in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
No doubt. All Right, we're gonna break. Let's talk some dogs.
You're miling with us Indiana up next. We'll get to
that from the Duchess next. On a Friday on ninety
three three kJ RFM, Now back.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
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and Dick on your home for the NFL Sports Radio
ninety three point three kjr FL.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
All right, back here at the Duchess with san Juan
Seltzer and a Friday Night Safty, Dick Jackson, Hu Milan
rejoins Ryan Grubb coming up with a six pm hour
as well. But hre before we get to Husky talk
real quick, we want to clean up the Seahawk conversation.
If DK Metcalf doesn't go Sunday. What does that mean
for Ryan Grubbs offense. Well, I just want to clean
up one thing.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Our boy, Silver, your boy, He said, the Bills are
gonna quote blitz early and often. I'm like, whoa, I've
studied this tape. That's not what I see. So I
looked it up. The Bills in terms of their blitzes,
which a blitz is defined by the NFL as five
or more rushers on the quarterback. Yeah, they're number thirty two,
dead last. The Vikings have one hundred and seventeen. They're
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number one. The average is fifty five, and again the
Bills last at thirty seven.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
He said, well, wait a minute, said early and often,
So I.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
Filter, Who's Silver? Who you said? Silver? Said that?
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Oh Sterling?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
Did I say Solky Easterling?
Speaker 2 (18:25):
I'm sorry, I was thinking of Michael Silver.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
There'll be bronze by tomorrow for Trier.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Yeah, jeez.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
So he said they'll blitz surly and off. And maybe
they will blitt surly and off because I thought Jimmy
Lake had a horrible game plan. Maybe this defensive coordinator
is gonna come after Jerrell.
Speaker 4 (18:38):
But there's no evidence of that that in the first quarter.
So I just told you all the blitzes in first
quarter filtered for that. The Bills have just seven blitzes
all season. That's tied for twenty eighth.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
In the league.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
So look, there might be all kinds of reasons why
Sterling's right, he's been He's got way more right over
the years than wrong. But don't let it be because
of the blitz scene of the Bills that let you
make the decision, because he he wished on that one.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Got it? Got it? All right, we're gonna you want
to do a thought on DK. We get to the Huskies. Now,
I can't.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
I can't do anything quick with DK doing No, no, no,
I can't do it.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
I can do it.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Well, we'll save it for Sunday's postgame deal. Indeed, if
they suffer without DK breakdown.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
Let's get to the Huskies. Curtis Rourke is out Tavi
on Jackson's in What does that mean to the number
one scoring offense in college football?
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Well, I you know, I watched their I watched this kid.
You know, you know he's a big dude, throws the ball,
you know. To give you an idea of their their
big plays, you've got uh uh, I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
I'm trying to find it.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
Uh in an event you had this rock guy. There's
notes everywhere, this rooric guy. He has passes twenty yards
or more, gains of more. He's got thirty three to
thirty three. To put that in perspective, Will Rogers has
twenty two. This guy was a big play machine guy.
You had a nice touchdown the field, big dude. This
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is an extremely well coached football team. Guys on both
sides of the ball. They're fundamentally sound. I like their
play calling. They're aggressive. I mean they're looking to put
a sword through your throat. There's a certain arrogance that
this guy Siggs has and in a good way, and
so they're coming at you. But yeah, I think that
(20:24):
obviously it hurts him, that's their starting quarterback, but it
may not hurt him as much as we think.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Hugh the Demon Williams Will Rogers conundrum continues. You would
you have what you would consider an ideal balance for
those two And I promised Softy I would ask you
last Friday when I hosted with you, if and I
forgot if DeMont, if you would be ticked off if
you were Will Rogers and you came in and you saw,
(20:51):
by nothing no fault your own.
Speaker 6 (20:53):
You saw your playing time go down with our freshmen.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
Yeah, I wouldn't like it at all, And I can
promise you I bet nickol I have that he doesn't
like it. And what's been very stifling to me is
the odd nature of how he gets replaced.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
You know.
Speaker 4 (21:11):
Foremost among that was in the Cougar game with three
minutes to go, the Husky's needing a touchdown. Here you
have Will Rogers. He has this unbelievable he rolls right,
stops or going towards the lake. Reminded me of when
Pennick's got the ball with a chance to beat Oregon
last year and he throws this unbelievable ball forty five
(21:32):
yard game to Giles Jackson, just walks it out there
to him on man cover, just drops it over the
shoal of gorgeous ball. And he gets smoked as he's
doing it, and so he's got a mouthful of recycled
Rubbert pellets for his efforts.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And then he stands up and what's happening.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
He's getting pulled off the field, like what in the
hell was that? And so now you put in demand
and now with his kid's got to go out there.
And then they said, well, now we got to the
ten yard line, let's let's, you know.
Speaker 2 (22:05):
Try and make a play. How is that not distracting?
How is that not distracting?
Speaker 5 (22:09):
I got what he got in though, as I recall, right,
and that's.
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Uh, he hit one when he went back in he
hit a shallow cross of a completion, but he had
a slant route to his left. What wasn't a great
route by Boston, wasn't a lot of opportunity. But if
I if I'm nitpicking about his his uh execution, Rogers,
was it a plus?
Speaker 3 (22:32):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:33):
Could have it been better? I just I'm surmising, is
he distracted? Just like what the hell do I have
to do? And you know, look, I just there's all
kinds of message like Michigan. For example, halftime in Michigan,
the unbelievable buzz Rogers is thirteen to twenty, one hundred
and eighty nine yards, two touchdowns, one hundred and seventy
seven passer rating. He's on his way for a three
(22:55):
hundred and seventy eight yard, four touchdown game if you
double what he had done in the first half. And
jet Fish is inviewed by the network and down the
red zone he says. He says, yeah, well, you know
we missed that last pass there. You know that we
should have hit. But you know, and I don't know,
there's just a certain energy that I don't like. If
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you asked me if I was will Rogers, I wouldn't
you know. It's like he's the redheaded step child, like
Demon Williams is his boy, and he recruited him. That's
his guy. He had to take Rogers because Rogers had
already committed and he needed a body. And so the
manner in which he replaces him makes no sense to me.
(23:36):
It's not when the Huskies are, you know, struggling, it's
you know, things are going great and he'll just put
in Demon Williams. Well, no, I don't like it. I
think it disrupts all kinds of chemistry. And final point
on this, I've heard from people on the inside. This
guy is a premier leader Rogers. Some people say even
better than Pennix. A great I promise you there's clicks
(23:57):
on that team. Promise you those offensive one every offensive
line I've ever been on. I was on the Cowboy office.
They had the best offensive line in football. You go
out on a bar, everybody Grouse's lineman. Grouse. I guarantee
you they have clicks. Is like, and there's a linemen.
They're not gonna say it to the media, but when
they're together and they go out for a pitcher of beer,
they said, they go, what the hell's coach doing?
Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's crap.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Why are they doing that to Will?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Yeah? Well, yeah, he'd driven them all the way from
the minus twelve to the plus eleven and then gets
a false start on the maaha and they pull them
off the field and give the battle to mont Williams.
Then they put Will Rogers back in on third and
twelve and say, go save the drive. Right, So, yeah,
you had two false starts.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
You know, you got a different, different, different cadence, and
it's just it's very disruptive to the rhythm. Demon Williams
is not some you know, Tim Tebow or something. You know,
some some ballyhooed guy, like he's not the first nice
looking athlete that's been a true freshman.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
Well let me cut you off there, because that leads
to the red zone commerce, right. I mean a lot
of these issues we're talking about are taking place inside
the twenty yard line, Washington is fifty percent. Hugh touchdown
percentage in the red zone Indiana. What I say Indiana
was Dick, Indiana is eighty four. They're eighty four percent.
That's touchdowns. That is marvelous. Thirty seven to forty four.
(25:20):
That's even better than the Huskies were a year ago,
Hugh under Michael Pennix. So what the hell's going on
inside the twenty because Dick Dick's point is they're competitive,
they're playing better than the other teams. Well, okay, in
the end, they're not, though, because they're losing, and they're
losing because they can't score touchdowns in the red zone.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Well, I get to double dip on this because points
per play the University of Washington is ninety fifth in
the country, which speaks to the red zone. And when
I say double dip, just out of for information, the
Buffalo Bills are number one in that stat so an
ad rate.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I got to have a quick parenthetical there. Red zone.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
You know, I looked at you know, just thirteen stats
where the Huskies ranked rush rush is per TD. They
take nine point six rushers to get it. That's one
hundred and twenty six in the nation yards after cats
on the completion. Nobody's breaking tackles on these two point
two yards. That's one hundred and seventh first down per
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attempt only twenty percent. That's ranked seventy eighth. I'm not
going to go through all these stats. Twelve of the
thirteen sets that I just look up that are these
are all red zone stats that I just described. Twelve
out of thirteen they're in the bottom fifty of the country,
and the one that isn't they're forty eighth. Like, so
they're doing they're doing nothing in the reds all.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Okay, so I watched the tape.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
They're they're not They're not coming off the ball in
terms of their yards before contact zero point seven eight yards.
That's eighty second in the country. So they're not they're
not moving guys. So there's not a lot of holes
for Jonah and in the other backs and then in
the passing game, I would just say this, I don't
(27:03):
see a lot of creativity. I don't you know when
I watched grub as the offensive coordinator for the University
of Washington, what I would constantly think when I've studied
the tape, having been a coach, before and even a coach,
uh you know, a head coach in middle school, but
coach in the high school and studying everything. You know,
when you watch a play, you go, wait a minute,
(27:25):
that's an expensive play. What does that mean? It means
it's so exotic that it's like a one time per
per game call. And because you can't you can't do
that a second time. And there's so many times with grub,
I go, that is an expensive play. That's meaning it's
a lot of practice time and you don't get to
(27:46):
run it a lot and over and over, and now
go I go, WHOA, that's an expensive play.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
WHOA, that's an expensive play.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
When I watch the Huskies on there on their tape,
I just rolled the red zone, I just filter it
and I just watched the play, you know, just just
in side zone, you know, just zone blocking, kind of
Vanilla's concepts. I I don't see a lot of like whoa,
what's happening here? Like like I've got to rewind the
tape to go what are they trying? What's happening here?
(28:14):
What misdirection? Everything just seems like an easy read. So
I think they need to be more creative in the
running game. In the passing game, and you know, obviously
there's an execution component to that.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
But I think they can be better. They've got to
be better.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
They can't just be that vanilla in the red zone.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
Well, we're gonna see how much better they are coming
out of the by tomorrow. Right. If there was ever
a time to kind of maybe change some stuff and
put some new packages in, it'd be this week. All right, man,
good stuff. And here Millen, we're gonna break Ryan Greup
coming up in the six pm hour. We haven't done
the DPI in a while. How old is Dixon now? Fourteen?
(28:55):
And we started this when he was how old? Eight eight?
How much is Dixon fames for change from eight to
fourteen years old?
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Well, we only got him eleven.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
Really is the only reason I want to do it.
I just want to hear what his voice sounds.
Speaker 6 (29:07):
Why you keep holding this again?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yourck? I don't know, it's a tick.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
Sounds terrible, It sounds terrible.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
Is this better?
Speaker 6 (29:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Is that better? Much better? Is this better than you?
Is this better? We're gonna break the bottom of the
second World Series. No score, Dodgers, Yankees. We got a
lot more to come from the Duchess coming up on
ninety three to three kJ RFM,
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