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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Show heree How are you Palf? What's happening boys? Not much?
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Man, lots to get to dude. The mock draft is
a week from Wednesday. Round one is a week from Thursday.
We're getting close. There is a report out, i think
by Tom Pelaso today on Good Morning Football about the
Raiders taking Shador Sanders at number six.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
What do you make of that?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
First of all is a match with Pete Carroll and
then second of all, if he doesn't fall to six,
where does he end up going?
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Man, Well, I'm intrigued. There's so many things to respond
to you here, but I'm intrigued with these stories because
if you look and you say, okay, the Raiders, let's
pick two extremes, the Raiders really desperately want Sudure and
they would love to grab him at six, or they
have no point. They wouldn't even drafted him in the
draft him in the second round. The this just feels
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like lying season, Like tell me why the Raiders would
benefit from any principle divulging that they have interest. Look,
it seems to me they that one reason that they
would leak this is that they want to drive up
the trade price right for somebody if they do want them,
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whether it's the Steelers or whomever, to move up at six.
But you know, you know one thing that I feel
very confident in kind of reporting, if if you look
at the Raiders structure, this is coming from a guy
that was interviewed by the Raiders to be the head coach.
The way the meeting involved four people on the Raiders end.
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It was Tom Brady, it was uh Mark Davis, and
then it was two of the minority owners business guys.
I'm not sure if it was Tom Wagner, Egon Durbin
or Michael Mehlbman. There's three, two of the two of
the three. But in any event, here's the report. Tom
Brady was running the entire interview in terms of of
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all the questions towards the head coaches. Okay, so this
guy is involved, now Brady, why would that be relevant?
Brady has had a relationship with Dion obviously, but Shador
Sanders front going back to youth football, and he guided
him in high school and particularly early on in the college.
They've worked out together, They've had a long relationship. Shador
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Sanders has has tweeted about their relationship and that obviously,
you know, he says Brady's the goat and all that.
So I'm just wondering, you know, is that a possibility
that Brady really gets involved, because now we don't know
that just because they have the relationship that Tom Brady.
Even if if you posit all of that, Tom Brady
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may quietly say, hey, look, I really like the kid.
He's Dion's son, blah blah blah, but I don't see
him as a prospect for my football team. So I'm
not saying that that would transpire. But I do think
it's interesting that Tom Brady, at least if you reflect
on the coach process, Tom Brady really has his footprints
on this, and there is a relationship with Brady and Sanders.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Well, I know how deep you go into this scouting.
You don't just look at a guy on film and
then check it off and say, oh, I've done Shador Sanders.
So I know you've taken a look at more Shador
Sanders since the last time we talked about Sanders and
what has come out of this further study.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Well, I'm still going and I really have to fight
my confirmation bias. Just the things he said and what
he did in that Nebraska Dave and I talked about
it last week. I'm not going to get into that,
but I am really just wondering what all the fuss is.
The latest game that I watched was the Bowl game
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against BYU. There was not an impressive play on that
tape until six thirty six to go in the third quarter.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
I mean, it is an absolute junk show. When you
there's a whole cottage industry of quarterback coaches and you've
heard of him, Jordan Palmer, Carson Son, you know these
personal coaches, Steve Clarkson, you may know that name, Darryl
Colbert is cam Ward and Sanders private quarterback coach, Jay
Keeps locally, my man, Chris Miller, my former teammate in Atlanta,
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former Duck. Like the list is too long to even list,
but that industry is gonna just evaporate if there's success here.
Because when you watch Sedur Sanders in the pocket, it's
like recess and the bell rang and it's like, hey,
last play, there is no discipline whatsoever. He is all
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over the place. There are drops from which I'm just unfamiliar.
He'll take one step like he's crossing over, and then
he'll just turn into a backpedal. He'll drift in top
like game after game after game, he is constantly behind
the the B gap, the C gap. I'll tell you what.
His feet are a mess. And and there's all this
discussion about how much he's pressured. Let me throw this
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out out at Yeah, you think of Michael Pennix's last
year with Washington and behind the Jill Moore Award winning
offensive line, there's this thought that, okay, he was just
at this beautiful line. So if you go by Pro
Football Focus and their pressure stats, which all the NFL
subscribe teams subscribe to, all the college teams subscribe to.
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Now it is subjective, but at least there is there
is some methodology to all of this. So shaduor sanders
Uh is at twenty eight point seven percent pressure rate,
what do you think Michael Pennix was, Well, I'm gonna
twenty five point one percent. I mean it's a little less,
but it's not egregiously less and and I'll just tell
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you this because this this it's with my tape study.
The average time to throw from the pocket for all
college quarterbacks last year, all college quarterbacks were two point
three to three seconds in the pocket. So if you
take the pressure percentage of all throws two point three
to three or less, the average was twelve point eight
percent for all college quarterbacks. Shular Sanders was ten point
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two percent, far less than the average. Here's a list
of quarterbacks who were more pressured than should or Sanders
last year. You're probably going to recognize quarterbacks from good
teams that you think have good offensive line. Quinn Yours
was more pressured. Will Howard was more pressured. Will Rogers
was more pressured. Dylan Gabriel was more from Morgan was
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more pressure Kyle McCord like long list. So I don't know,
you just he there are times he specializes in the
quick game. But if it's not the quick game, his
feet are a mess, his placement are a mess, and
you know there's just a lot to clean up, a
lot to clean up.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Well, I'm just looking at teams that don't have a
lot locked into a long term quarterback, like Obviously, the
Brown's got to figure out that Deshaun Watson situation. But hell,
they may take him. I doubt it they're gonna go
for Carter or Hunter. The Giants got nothing. They got
Wilson on what a one year, two year deal something short,
Drake May's on his rookie deal, Trevor Lawrence has a
big contract in Jacksonville. Raiders have nothing, Jets have nothing,
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the Panthers have Bryce Young and then here comes the
Saints at number nine. Right with this story about Derek
Carr and his injury, they could keep him out the
entire year. They can get out of his contract for
twenty million dollars at the end of this season. There's
a near seventy million dollar cap hit Hugh going into
twenty six, so if they're gonna move on, it'll be
fairly soon from him. What about Shador going to play
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inside for the Saints at the Supernome, Well, I.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Think it'd be really good for Shador Sanders to play inside, agreed,
because you know he doesn't have cam WARN's arm and
in in that division, you know, that's that's a that's
a soft weather division. Right now, here's the concern that
I would have you got a new coach in Kellen Moore.
I'm going to quote from from February seventh and eat
(08:09):
an interview with Dion Sander. Here's what he was, Dean Sanders.
He was quoted in the falling quote you said you'd
only jump into the NFL potentially, potentially if it was
to coach your son. Dion kind of interrupted and said,
that's right. The interviewer kind of finished up with that
was the quote that I heard, and Dion replied, I
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didn't stutter. So you say, okay, well, look, Kellen Moore's
year one, what are they gonna do? Let me give
you a list of coaches who are one and done.
Recent coaches one and done. Antonio Pears, Jared i'm Mao,
Frank Reich, Levy Smith, Nathaniel Hackett, David Cully, Urban Meyer,
Freddie Kitchen, Steve Wilks, Chip Kelly, Jim Thomasula, Rob Chazziski,
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Mike Malarkey, Hugh Jackson. That's just since twenty elevens all
the time. It happens all the time. So if if
somehow the Saints were to unravel, now they've got Spencer Rattler. Look,
look really mixed results. They've got our boy Hainter down there,
there's really not much if they don't have Derek. If
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they don't have Derek Carr. But you say, well, they'll
be motivated to draft Dean. I'll tell you what. If
you're Kellen Moore and Dion is on record as having
said that, I think that New Orleans Dion's praise in
New Orleans. You know, he's kind of from that general
area of the country. I think he'd like to be
in New Orleans. He you know, this February seventh was
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obviously after the college football season. That was after the
flirtations with the Cowboys. So I don't know that that
is a tornado that I don't want when you consider everything,
when you consider if things go wrong, the magnitude if
things don't go wrong, with the Shador Sanders, with Dion
potentially and his microphone blaming things on you, and and
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the undermining. I don't know. Take it if you want it,
but I think it makes sense for in a lot
of ways if you like what you see on on
Sador Sanders tape. But you're running a risk that is
very unique to all quarterbacks. If you take Sador Sanders
in the manner that we've been discussed discussing here.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
We're gonna have Teresa Walker on at six' ten from
THE ap In, tennessee AND i want to ask her
if The titans are really excited about Cam ward or
if they just feel like they have to take Cam
ward at number? One is he a worthy number one
overall pick in your?
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Mind, WELL i will Just i'm gonna preface. THIS i
do not like Cam. WARD i don't LIKE i don't
like his. STYLE i think he's the most kind of
CAVALIER uh Quarterback i've ever seen in my. Life it
hurts my football soul something THAT i, like LIKE i
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want to do THAT i was. LYING i was live in,
person had really good seats right on the forty five
yard lin for his opening GAME uh With, miami and
he just Shredded. Florida now and by the, way my
son is zero to two starting against, him So i've
and that was the third game i'd seen him beat
my son's. Team but in any event that nobody cares about.
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That BUT i, watched you, know, first what DO i
mean by that hurts my? Soul when he when he
jogs over by the. Sideline he comes to a near
stop an inch away from the. Sideline he had another
one where he's. Scrambling this is all in just the first.
Drive he had another ten yards to go and he
just goes bline. Sideways this is the most damnedest Thing
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i've ever seen in my. Life watch the. Tape what's
the first drive of That florida? Tape and watch him
run out of bounds when he could have gone ten more,
years like he is, crazy non. Slot but having said,
that this dude is a flatliner, competitor and And i'll
measure it in the following not WHETHER i like him
IF i was betting against, him IF i had one
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hundred grand against, Him, right this, DUDE i do not
like where my money is If i'm betting against. Him
that game Against cal Was Michael Forget Tom, Brady yes
it Was brady S it Was Michael. Jordanes they were
down thirty five to ten in the third, quarter thirty
eight to eighteen the fourth. Quarter Cam ward converted on
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fourth and, six third and, eighteen fourth and, ten third and.
Twenty he put on a clinic of sceane passes just
like whistling balls into AND i was rooting hard for
CAL i don't like Cam. Ward you, know it's A
pac twelve versus you, know blah blah. Blah there's a
lot of REASONS i was rooting for against. HIM i
threw on that SO i. Anguish watch it ON tv
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when you watch the coaches tape of, that The all twenty,
Two the tight windows that this guy can slam the ball,
into his ability to create off, schedule his off you
know side. ARM i, mean there's some mahomes in his.
Game he's clearly more. Talented the only thing That Sedur
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sanders might have on. Him sanders has a more over
the top delivery that's a little slower camword as a faster.
Release but the overtop delivery in theory has a better
deep ball and so you could probably get in a
fair debate on. That but on the intermediate stuff where
you got a rip balls into holes, stuff a mailbox
cam word is way Beyond Sdur sanders in this and
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he has ability to rise. Up. UH i Doubt i'll
be rooting for him in THE, Nfl but, MAN i
respect him AND i don't want to bet against.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Him, Well Hugh millin's with. Us if you were A
tennessee volunteer football, fan And dick Mentioned Teresa walker coming
up from the ap In nashville at six.' ten we're
gonna talk a Lot about Nico he malayava.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Who is he was.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
The starting Quarterback. For tennessee remember He. Beat alabama they
all loved him. Down there they got Destroyed By ohio
state and the playoff earlier. This year But Apparently josh
heipel had him Mispractice, on friday walks off. The field,
HE says i don't know where. He is he hasn't communicated.
WITH me i don't know what the hell's, going on
and so, he says. You're, done so if you Were
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a tennessee volunteer football fan this situation where this kid
wants more money and apparently reportedly here wants to double
his nil payday to four, million dollars would you have
your head coaches back or would you, say, no man
pay the guy we.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Need him good, On You, Josh hipel absolutely good, on.
You dude let me, let me let me let me
blow you, a kiss or send, you flowers or or
send you a freaking Bottle of tequila's. JUST something i
love what. He did if you heard his, comments, like
hey the t is way more important LONG before i
got here and LONG after i. Get here tennessee football is.
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A brand, you know all of the right things that,
he Said and I'll and i'll. Raise. THAT now i
should call him by his last NAME because i don't know,
him Personally but i'm not gonna take a stab. At
that i'm just gonna trip, my Tongue so i'm gonna
just Call. HIM nico I watched nico play many times this.
Past year i'm just. NOT impressed, i mean here's a
guy that was thirty ninth in the country in, passer
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rating forty second ranked, in touchdowns fifty seventh rank. IN
yards i saw him Lose to arkansas on and put
fourteen points on the bar on the on the on.
THE board i saw Him beat alabama and it wasn't because.
Of him the offense was absolutely stuck in. THE mud i,
DON'T know i just he's never really. Impressed, ME yeah
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i see, some SKILLS but i don't see anything close
To a. PAUL'S quarterback i wouldn't be surprised if the
guy that they have in there is going to be
better than this guy would Have BEEN so i like
that he took a stand and drew. The line and
if by chance it, hurts, him hey you, know what
in other ways it may help them in terms of
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what that does for the culture and maybe what that
does for the quality the type of person that they
recruit in. The future so don't don't sleep on. This situation,
you know you May if nico goes to some other
school and and he, Balls, out okay that'll. Be tangible
you can, measure that and then you can you can
do you can Subtract the tennessee quarterbacks yards from his
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and then you can get an, exact number and that'll
be a. Tangible analysis but there's an intangible analysis for
The things i'm talking about in terms Of how hypel
may have grabbed that football team in a. Good way,
SO no i. LOVE it i love it drop. The
hammer and by, the WAY as, i said it's kind
of one of those tall hat few, cattle, Guys, RIGHT
like i know he's got a, big name but where's, the,
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Production right and, SO no i think he did the. Right.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
Thing, hugh finally ten years, from now what do you
think you're gonna remember about the twenty Twenty?
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Five, masters, oh gosh well. It was it was one
of the Most scintillating i've. Ever seen the Eighty six
jack is still number one. FOR me i was in
college or, you know just coming out of college when.
That HAPPENED but i think that the way he lost
it on a eighteen and then had he missed the putt,
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on nineteen, you know the, FOUR footer, i mean he
might have. Been SUICIDAL but I think i think that
what this does is now he must just, be free
like all of his career goals. Are ACCOMPLISHED unless i
don't think he's given serious thought to Check catching jack
at eighteen. Professional majors maybe maybe, he has maybe he,
used to but but he's kind of released. From that.
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That's unlikely but, you know when you look at the
people in front, of him he's got five Tied. Both
kepka so now he's looking at at People like faldo
at six and, You Know bobby jones. At seven, you
know like there's some people that he can start to.
Pluck off but even, you know when he goes down in,
the pantheon there's people who have more majors, Than him
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WHICH is i, do think is the appropriate number. One
list NUMBER one i could make a hell of an
Argument That jack nicholas is the greatest of. ALL time
i know most People. Say tiger maybe that's a recency
thing and a, generation Thing but tiger always said eighteen
IS what i got to get to to be. The
best he didn't. Get there i'm not going to go
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Into a Tiger. Versus jack there's great arguments. For both
but my point, is this even though he's, at five
he because he now is just The, Six dave YOU
and i off air had A great you had a.
Great point, he, said hey there's fewer of These career
grand slams than there Are triple. Crown, winners well we
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went thirty forty years not having a, triple crown so
just the rarity of that speaks. To IT but i
think this vaults him ahead of. Many people good pull up,
The list dick of guys that are, at, six, Seven eight,
YOU know I think hogan was it was He Not
ben hogan. At nine it's not in front. Of me
but but the point, is is even though he's just,
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at five he's Way beyond keepka who's. At, five, yes
right because he Did The. Grand SLAM so i think
this will free. Him up he's just. Thirty five we
don't know how his body's, gonna go but but he
has the potential to rip off another five. Or Six
and i'm happy for. The guy seems to write a really.
Good dude it. WAS riveting i LOVE the I like
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disambo two for, other reasons, you KNOW because i think
people have a lot of hypocrites are are banging on
the uh on, THE live a lot of people who
enjoy the benefits of a, free market they seem to
want to deny. Golfers That so i'm a little bit
of Supportive. Of DISHAMBO but i was ROOTING for i
was Rooting For Rory hard what, a gentleman and really
(19:25):
glad that he got that monkyaff. Is back now he
can go play. Golf freely, great, stuff.
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