November 8, 2024 • 17 mins
Hugh Millen joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to discuss quarterbacks in Thursday night’s game, the future of Geno Smith, plus tomorrow’s UW game against Penn State.
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I gotta be honest with you, guys. I'm a little
bit kind of throwing off my game here a little bit.
H here's this Brian Wheeler news and Hugh Millan joins
(00:47):
us and Hue. I'm trying to remember when when Wheels
was going out as the voice of the Kings and
you were coming in.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Did you did you cross paths with Wheels?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
My first year at KJR was nineteen ninety nine and
I didn't, so I think they're far better and more
qualified people to give him a tribute. But I will
say in passing, the next time I hear a bad
word about Wheels from anybody at kJ or anywhere in
the market will be the first. So people really spoke glowingly.
(01:16):
So he must have been a wonderful man. So I
know that you're fighting through with the heavy heart. But
let's get gros or Gas or some of the other
people to give a great tribute to him, and it'd
be very compelling to hear that.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Well you it's a football now, I mean, those those
quarterbacks last night, I got to admit I I was
jealous as hell watching that game because it just kind
of reminds me of what we don't have. And not
that Gino's a bad quarterback, but he ain't Lamar Jackson
and he ain't Joe Burrow. I mean, when you watch
a game like that, I mean, just what jumps out
at you when you see quarterbacks two going at each
(01:49):
other that are, without question, two of the top five
quarterbacks in the world.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, first of all, I think Lamar Jackson is more
unique just because he's I think right now deserving of
the title the most elusive and and frightful quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
With his wheels. There's just things he can do.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
In the passing game, you have to really be careful
how you approach the you know, you can't get higher
than him. You gotta kind of muddy the thing. Obviously,
he presents a running threat, you know it It affects
how you play coverage. If you play man to man,
you know you're holding your breath, so you know, I
(02:28):
think you're rushing with with real caution. And then you know,
I've never been a big fan of his arm. I
don't like his throwing motion. You know, at the combine
of eighteen quarterbacks, his velocity was the lowest. But I
think he's really improved a year after year, and he's
a relatively young guy. I think his passing is improved.
(02:50):
I don't think he has, you know, the prowess of
the other guy, so you know he's he's special, but
in a unique way. I think that Burrow is just
a more you know, classic quarterback. Not a huge arm,
but big enough. And there's a little bit of Montana
in him. Good athlete, not great, but very smooth, very anticipatory,
(03:14):
very accurate, has some swagger, you know, look, you're talking
about two guys that are top five in the league.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, Well I'll tell you what you made the point,
You're right, Lamar Jackson's only twenty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
A crazy way to go. It is crazy for as
long as he's been around.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But humiling with us on the air and Hugh before
we get to the Penn State UDUB game tomorrow. I
thought it was a great segment today with Greg Kosel
and you were talking about Geno Smith and you use
the word potentially average to describe Gino. But I love
the way that you kind of couch that that's not
necessarily a bad thing in the NFL to have an
average quarterback, because sometimes finding average quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Is really, really, really hard to do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So is Geno Smith a guy still after some of
these recent strug a guy that you want to continue.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
For at least the foreseeable future. Is the quarterback of
the Seahawks?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well yeah, because I think it's just gonna be hard
to replace him. I mean, you know, you look at
twenty twenty two, his first year replacing Russell, he represented
one point seven percent of the salary cap for the Seahawks.
He was thirteenth on the team, and then the next year.
Last year was four point five percent. These are the
percentages of the cap. This year, it's gone up to
(04:26):
ten point three percent. Next year it's projected at fourteen percent.
We don't know until the revenues and all that, but
he keeps eating up a higher share, and so that's
a little bit concerning. But the question still remains, what's
the cost of replacing him. But just a couple of things,
you know right now as it stands, if you take
Gino in the red zone, out of forty five quarterbacks
(04:48):
who have two hundred total attempts or more, you know,
his passer ratings forty second success, thirty second, touchdown interception
rated thirty ninth, completion percentage forty second, third down conversions
twenty second, average time to throw thirty second if one
is the fastest. Now here's third down again. Those same
two hundred and fifty quarterbacks passer rating on third down
(05:10):
thirty eight, success, thirtieth. These are all out of forty
five where first would be best thirty six, completion percentage
thirty second, third down conversions thirtieth. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know, if you make a.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Numbers based argument, you're gonna come out with, Hey, this
guy's you know, average, what do your eyes tell you
to tell you? He's a talented guy, certainly has all
the physical traits that you could want. Throws a beautiful ball,
and when he's good, he's good. But I think that
the consistency right now is the question for the rest
of the season. Obviously there's the issue about the of
(05:45):
the pressure and what they can do schematically to help him.
But you know, I just wouldn't be adverse to He's
got another year on his contract, and despite what I
just said again to repeat it, fourteen point one percent
of the cap next year. I don't think it would
be a terribly debilitating plan to just say, all right,
let's just we don't he's under contract. What's he gonna do?
Hold out if need be? You know, I think you
(06:08):
make him play his final year on his contract. Hell,
we were just talking about Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, you know,
the Ravens. Uh, you know, they were kind of trying
to get him a contract and and and uh coming
out of his fifth year, remember the fifth year option
with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Lamar Jackson said, I don't like that offer.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
I'll bet on me, and so he played his fifth
year without an extra year. Of course he was a
good year for him and and he he he bet right.
But the point was, it's you can play on your
last year of the contract.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's it's not against the rule. It kind of seems though,
like it is for some point on the NFL. Mike
got it. But you're exactly right. You know he can
play on the last year.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And I alluded in the last segment, Hugh to something
you talked about yesterday. Maybe you can kind of enlighten
us again for those that didn't hear, for and for
Dave that didn't hear about how Geno can help himself
with getting the ball out of his hand quickly, because
I was interested to find out, as you mentioned yesterday,
that when he gets the ball out in less than
an average amount of time two and a half seconds,
(07:09):
he's actually not pressured at an inordinate amount of times.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yeah, and you're close to that, I would say even more, Dick,
just bear with me on this. So the average time
is two point four five seconds if you go two
and a half seconds or less, well for the whole NFL,
because it's you know, obviously a little bit more than
two point five two point five. The average is sixty
one percent of all quarterbacks get rid of the ball
(07:33):
in two point five seconds or less, And in fact,
Geno's right there at fifty nine point six. So in
those in that category getting rid of the ball two
and a half seconds or less, which again are sixty
one percent of all throws. Yeah, the NFL average for
pressure is seventeen point two percent. Geno's twenty one point
two percent, so he's pressured more than the average, but
(07:55):
he's at thirteenth in that regard, pretty close to the middle.
Here's a list of quarterback that are pressured more again,
Dave On on plays where he's two and a half
seconds or less, Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, Brock Purdy, CJ.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Stroud, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I mean, those are guys are doing some damage in
this league and they are pressured more. Now, when you
get to the two and a half seconds or more,
that's where Gino's fifty four point nine. This is the
NFL stat portal, by the way, fifty four point nine percent.
That's number one in the NFL. Not by the next
close Sky I thay is like fifty three percent, so
it's not by a huge but the NFL average is
(08:31):
forty three percent. He's at some you know, twelve percent more,
takes more hits, number one in hits, so there's a
big drop off. Now that is both that stat You
can't argue with those stats. What what's embedded in those stats.
It's not just Gino holding the ball, it's it's scheme.
And so let's see what Ryan Greb can do to
(08:51):
just say, hey, I'm not sure if we can do
some of the long developing plays. We got to get
the ball out of his hand. But there's look, every
I get in my mind, I grate is his performance
every week on Monday, I watch the coaches tape and
and every week there's you know, six, eight, ten, twelve
plays where you just go, oh, that's a minus because
(09:12):
he's going to the wrong place. He's holding the ball
based on the coverage. He should have known to be here.
Instead he's there.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And that's got improved, all right, So you know me,
every now and then'll replace the f ford with the
word chicken just for effect on the air, please do.
And this tight end Tyler Warren is a mother chickens.
He is a mother chicken for Penn State. Dick read
the list of positions he's playing.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Oh, yes, Tyler Warren. So Tyler, I can get it
in five seconds.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But I know it was it was.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Basically, I've got him already in line two hundred three snaps,
slot one hundred and thirty six, wide receiver forty in
the backfield forty one and when he caalter Becky's listen
to this, Dave. He's got seventeen snaps as the quarterback.
And in those seventeen plays, there's a seven point four
yard per play, and that's some of those are like
short and down the goal line where you can't you know,
(10:02):
like he's a beast and look in studying his tape.
He's the first guy since Gronkowski to remind me of Gronkowski.
I remember now, Gronkowski went to University of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
We saw him.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
It wasn't like we were sitting there going holy cow. They
got Kellen wins Odell. He was the second rounder. Why
because he didn't have a blazing forty time. It was
a four to seven guy. Well, when I watched Tyler Warren,
he looks like a four to seven guy. So I
don't see blazing speed, but holy cow, six six two sixty,
he's a beast like Gronkowski.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's got strong hands.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
He makes contested catches, and they are creative in how
they use him.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
They do power running plays, but they shovel him the ball.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
There was a play against USC where they went this
funky formation where the tackles were way out by the
sidelines and it was just the two guards and center
and you know, this weird formation, and then they ran
a middle screen to him on that you know I
heard new Heiseel mentioned. Uh, he was the end man
on the line of scrimmage. But he snapped the ball
and shotgun ran down the middle.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Of the field.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Now they didn't really fill full USC, but it was
a weird double pass. They didn't really fool the Trojans.
They were covering him, but he was he was gloved up.
But this guy can make the contested catch. Look, he's
he's a he's a star receiver.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
And if you're if in your mind's eye, number forty
four is going to remind you of Gronkowski.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Tomorrow, Deck Dick, just one quick thing, just on him.
He'll give me like thirty seconds. Son, Who's who's got
to step up his game tomorrow to defend this guy?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Well, I think the linebackers and the safeties, uh, you know,
he's you know, and if you want to play man coverage,
you gotta find you know, somebody who can who can
handle him. But I think you know, you squeeze him
in zone coverage. You've got to be aware, you know, uh, Dick,
you coach high school basketball, You're you're aware of where
the shooter is and you don't you know your zones.
You don't drift far away from a shooter. Well, you
(11:54):
better squeeze to this guy when he's running down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So what Ken Washington do overall schematically to prevent what
we saw in the second half of the Iowa game,
in the second half of the Indiana game, where it's
just four and a half yards and a cloud of
dust and there's nothing much that they were able to
do about it.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Well, I think they've got to keep fresh and have
a rotation there. But I think that we've been really
impressed with Carson Brunner. Right, He's a study. He's the
Big ten player of the week, and I would say
I'm looking for leadership. And this is let me emphasize,
this is not an indictment of Carson Brunner's past, because
(12:35):
he's a wonderful Husky.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I see everything you see.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
But when I watch the Iowa and the Indiana game
on the road in the third quarter, when things are
starting to get you know, our grip is loosen it up,
and the football game's getting away from us. But there's
still plenty of times to time to turn it around
and get it back going momentum in our favor. I
think there needs to be more piss and vinegar on
that football team. They and I don't know if it's
(13:01):
the time zone or you know, they're the nine o'clock
and the kickoffs and all that. We're not going to
be facing tomorrow, obviously, but if things start to get
away from me a little, you gotta look at them
and say, hey, guys, we're only a touchdown down, We're
only ten points down. We still got twenty minutes of
football left. Yeah, that's when you got to You got
a cowboy up. You gotta grid up, and you gotta
fight for every blade of grass, and you know, in
(13:24):
a hostile environment, and you can't just kind of give
the appearance that you're you're accepting your fate. So somebody's
got to step up. I think Brunner, based on the
caliber player, is that his heart is competitiveness. He's got
to grab some face masks, shake some guys around, and
say no if in fact, the Huskies face the adversity
(13:44):
in a similar manner that we saw at Indiana and Iowa.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So I'm wondering if we'll see more of number two tomorrow,
you know, kind of hearing some rumblings and he's been
getting maybe a little more run with the ones this week.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
We'll see what that means.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I mean, it may mean nothing and maybe incorrect obviously,
but do you think this feels like the kind of
game where maybe Jedfish wants to give number two a
few more snaps?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And what does that look like?
Speaker 6 (14:04):
If you agree, well, I think that Jedfish has always
wanted to get as much of Demond Williams on there.
I don't think that will Rodgers has been really his
type of guy. You know, he kind of inherited it,
as it were, if you know the sequence of committing
to Kailin de Bors.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So Damon Williams is his guy, just.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
A couple of things to reflect on on yards per
play when Rodgers is the quarterback the Huskies, this is
the entire football team six point four yards per play
with demand five point six. Not a big difference, but
close to a yard difference with Rogers having the advantage.
Now we know that our eyeballs know, we know exactly
the stylistic differences, right, I mean clearly Will Rodgers is
(14:48):
the passer demands more of the athlete. Now, but let
me contextualize a couple of things. Demond Williams has been
on the field for one hundred and twelve plays. He
has two completions when the ball traveled more than ten
yards in the air, and one of them was forty
when the score is forty sixteen at Iowa and it
(15:08):
was garbage time. The other one in Eastern Michigan a
minute less than two minutes ago in a three touchdown win.
So he has never had a competitive completion in his
life where the ball traveled more than ten yards. And
the air yards per completion for Demond is two point
two yards. Compare that to Will Rogers airyards per completion
six point four, So you know you're getting more of
(15:30):
a threat. Oh by the way I said, two completions
ten yards are more for Demon two, Will Rogers has
forty eight. So if you're a defense and you're looking okay,
number two, what does he does? He scare me if
I'm a defensive coordinator, Well, I know his quickness right,
but but measure okay? Is the athleticism worth it? Here's
an interesting stat. Demon Williams has six scrambles for thirty
(15:53):
seven yards six point two per scramble.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Will Rogers has ten scrambles.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
You're not going to scramble frequently for seventy two yards
seven point two. Now, I know that Demon Williams is
demonstrably a better athlete, but are are you getting that
much more of a running presence that it's worth offsetting
what you lose as a passer? Now, a year from now,
(16:21):
Demond Williams as a true sophomore, he may be lights
out as a passer, but he has not shown it yet.
So those are the thoughts I'd be thinking, to me,
this is a game that I'd want to have the
experience of Will Rogers in there. With that experience, and
to say nothing of the leadership component with the older guys.
You know, so at any rate. Now I'm not beating
(16:41):
the drum to see Demond Williams gotcha?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
All right, man, great stuff. It'd be fun to watch
tomorrow for sure. Have a good weekend, my friend, and
we're talking away.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Thanks to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Well, you're in one of the great venues and the
pageantry of college football is unlike anything other, and you're
going to be in one of the premier houses in
that guards to enjoy.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Now, there's I think Tony tweeted out, there's what three
stadiums or four stadiums that seat over one hundred thousand people,
Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, and Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And tomorrow I'll be at all.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Four college football. There's eight, but Penn State is the
second most. Yeah there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
All right, Well, you know what, I'm gonna live in
a world where the top four are the ones I've
been in, So what the hell?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
A great stuff? See guys, you milling with us on
the radio show.
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All right, we are back here courtesy at Delta Airlines
Venue Kings dot Com at Chams Sports Bar in Atherton, Pennsylvania,
getting at the actually Afterton Street, sorry, University Park, Pennsylvania,
getting ready for the Dogs and Beavers or Nitny Lyons tomorrow.
I gotta be honest with you, guys. I'm a little
bit kind of throwing off my game here a little bit.
H here's this Brian Wheeler news and Hugh Millan joins
(00:47):
us and Hue. I'm trying to remember when when Wheels
was going out as the voice of the Kings and
you were coming in.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Did you did you cross paths with Wheels?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
You know?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I didn't.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
My first year at KJR was nineteen ninety nine and
I didn't, so I think they're far better and more
qualified people to give him a tribute. But I will
say in passing, the next time I hear a bad
word about Wheels from anybody at kJ or anywhere in
the market will be the first. So people really spoke glowingly.
(01:16):
So he must have been a wonderful man. So I
know that you're fighting through with the heavy heart. But
let's get gros or Gas or some of the other
people to give a great tribute to him, and it'd
be very compelling to hear that.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Well you it's a football now, I mean, those those
quarterbacks last night, I got to admit I I was
jealous as hell watching that game because it just kind
of reminds me of what we don't have. And not
that Gino's a bad quarterback, but he ain't Lamar Jackson
and he ain't Joe Burrow. I mean, when you watch
a game like that, I mean, just what jumps out
at you when you see quarterbacks two going at each
(01:49):
other that are, without question, two of the top five
quarterbacks in the world.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
Well, first of all, I think Lamar Jackson is more
unique just because he's I think right now deserving of
the title the most elusive and and frightful quarterback.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
With his wheels. There's just things he can do.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
In the passing game, you have to really be careful
how you approach the you know, you can't get higher
than him. You gotta kind of muddy the thing. Obviously,
he presents a running threat, you know it It affects
how you play coverage. If you play man to man,
you know you're holding your breath, so you know, I
(02:28):
think you're rushing with with real caution. And then you know,
I've never been a big fan of his arm. I
don't like his throwing motion. You know, at the combine
of eighteen quarterbacks, his velocity was the lowest. But I
think he's really improved a year after year, and he's
a relatively young guy. I think his passing is improved.
(02:50):
I don't think he has, you know, the prowess of
the other guy, so you know he's he's special, but
in a unique way. I think that Burrow is just
a more you know, classic quarterback. Not a huge arm,
but big enough. And there's a little bit of Montana
in him. Good athlete, not great, but very smooth, very anticipatory,
(03:14):
very accurate, has some swagger, you know, look, you're talking
about two guys that are top five in the league.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah, Well I'll tell you what you made the point,
You're right, Lamar Jackson's only twenty seven years old.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
A crazy way to go. It is crazy for as
long as he's been around.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
But humiling with us on the air and Hugh before
we get to the Penn State UDUB game tomorrow. I
thought it was a great segment today with Greg Kosel
and you were talking about Geno Smith and you use
the word potentially average to describe Gino. But I love
the way that you kind of couch that that's not
necessarily a bad thing in the NFL to have an
average quarterback, because sometimes finding average quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Is really, really, really hard to do.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
So is Geno Smith a guy still after some of
these recent strug a guy that you want to continue.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
For at least the foreseeable future. Is the quarterback of
the Seahawks?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Well yeah, because I think it's just gonna be hard
to replace him. I mean, you know, you look at
twenty twenty two, his first year replacing Russell, he represented
one point seven percent of the salary cap for the Seahawks.
He was thirteenth on the team, and then the next year.
Last year was four point five percent. These are the
percentages of the cap. This year, it's gone up to
(04:26):
ten point three percent. Next year it's projected at fourteen percent.
We don't know until the revenues and all that, but
he keeps eating up a higher share, and so that's
a little bit concerning. But the question still remains, what's
the cost of replacing him. But just a couple of things,
you know right now as it stands, if you take
Gino in the red zone, out of forty five quarterbacks
(04:48):
who have two hundred total attempts or more, you know,
his passer ratings forty second success, thirty second, touchdown interception
rated thirty ninth, completion percentage forty second, third down conversions
twenty second, average time to throw thirty second if one
is the fastest. Now here's third down again. Those same
two hundred and fifty quarterbacks passer rating on third down
(05:10):
thirty eight, success, thirtieth. These are all out of forty
five where first would be best thirty six, completion percentage
thirty second, third down conversions thirtieth. Uh.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
You know, if you make a.
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Numbers based argument, you're gonna come out with, Hey, this
guy's you know, average, what do your eyes tell you
to tell you? He's a talented guy, certainly has all
the physical traits that you could want. Throws a beautiful ball,
and when he's good, he's good. But I think that
the consistency right now is the question for the rest
of the season. Obviously there's the issue about the of
(05:45):
the pressure and what they can do schematically to help him.
But you know, I just wouldn't be adverse to He's
got another year on his contract, and despite what I
just said again to repeat it, fourteen point one percent
of the cap next year. I don't think it would
be a terribly debilitating plan to just say, all right,
let's just we don't he's under contract. What's he gonna do?
Hold out if need be? You know, I think you
(06:08):
make him play his final year on his contract. Hell,
we were just talking about Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson, you know,
the Ravens. Uh, you know, they were kind of trying
to get him a contract and and and uh coming
out of his fifth year, remember the fifth year option
with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Lamar Jackson said, I don't like that offer.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
I'll bet on me, and so he played his fifth
year without an extra year. Of course he was a
good year for him and and he he he bet right.
But the point was, it's you can play on your
last year of the contract.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
That's it's not against the rule. It kind of seems though,
like it is for some point on the NFL. Mike
got it. But you're exactly right. You know he can
play on the last year.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And I alluded in the last segment, Hugh to something
you talked about yesterday. Maybe you can kind of enlighten
us again for those that didn't hear, for and for
Dave that didn't hear about how Geno can help himself
with getting the ball out of his hand quickly, because
I was interested to find out, as you mentioned yesterday,
that when he gets the ball out in less than
an average amount of time two and a half seconds,
(07:09):
he's actually not pressured at an inordinate amount of times.
Speaker 6 (07:13):
Yeah, and you're close to that, I would say even more, Dick,
just bear with me on this. So the average time
is two point four five seconds if you go two
and a half seconds or less, well for the whole NFL,
because it's you know, obviously a little bit more than
two point five two point five. The average is sixty
one percent of all quarterbacks get rid of the ball
(07:33):
in two point five seconds or less, And in fact,
Geno's right there at fifty nine point six. So in
those in that category getting rid of the ball two
and a half seconds or less, which again are sixty
one percent of all throws. Yeah, the NFL average for
pressure is seventeen point two percent. Geno's twenty one point
two percent, so he's pressured more than the average, but
(07:55):
he's at thirteenth in that regard, pretty close to the middle.
Here's a list of quarterback that are pressured more again,
Dave On on plays where he's two and a half
seconds or less, Matthew Stafford, Jalen Hurts, Jared Goff, Brock Purdy, CJ.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Stroud, Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
I mean, those are guys are doing some damage in
this league and they are pressured more. Now, when you
get to the two and a half seconds or more,
that's where Gino's fifty four point nine. This is the
NFL stat portal, by the way, fifty four point nine percent.
That's number one in the NFL. Not by the next
close Sky I thay is like fifty three percent, so
it's not by a huge but the NFL average is
(08:31):
forty three percent. He's at some you know, twelve percent more,
takes more hits, number one in hits, so there's a
big drop off. Now that is both that stat You
can't argue with those stats. What what's embedded in those stats.
It's not just Gino holding the ball, it's it's scheme.
And so let's see what Ryan Greb can do to
(08:51):
just say, hey, I'm not sure if we can do
some of the long developing plays. We got to get
the ball out of his hand. But there's look, every
I get in my mind, I grate is his performance
every week on Monday, I watch the coaches tape and
and every week there's you know, six, eight, ten, twelve
plays where you just go, oh, that's a minus because
(09:12):
he's going to the wrong place. He's holding the ball
based on the coverage. He should have known to be here.
Instead he's there.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
And that's got improved, all right, So you know me,
every now and then'll replace the f ford with the
word chicken just for effect on the air, please do.
And this tight end Tyler Warren is a mother chickens.
He is a mother chicken for Penn State. Dick read
the list of positions he's playing.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Oh, yes, Tyler Warren. So Tyler, I can get it
in five seconds.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
But I know it was it was.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Basically, I've got him already in line two hundred three snaps,
slot one hundred and thirty six, wide receiver forty in
the backfield forty one and when he caalter Becky's listen
to this, Dave. He's got seventeen snaps as the quarterback.
And in those seventeen plays, there's a seven point four
yard per play, and that's some of those are like
short and down the goal line where you can't you know,
(10:02):
like he's a beast and look in studying his tape.
He's the first guy since Gronkowski to remind me of Gronkowski.
I remember now, Gronkowski went to University of Arizona.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
We saw him.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
It wasn't like we were sitting there going holy cow. They
got Kellen wins Odell. He was the second rounder. Why
because he didn't have a blazing forty time. It was
a four to seven guy. Well, when I watched Tyler Warren,
he looks like a four to seven guy. So I
don't see blazing speed, but holy cow, six six two sixty,
he's a beast like Gronkowski.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
He's got strong hands.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
He makes contested catches, and they are creative in how
they use him.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
They do power running plays, but they shovel him the ball.
Speaker 6 (10:45):
There was a play against USC where they went this
funky formation where the tackles were way out by the
sidelines and it was just the two guards and center
and you know, this weird formation, and then they ran
a middle screen to him on that you know I
heard new Heiseel mentioned. Uh, he was the end man
on the line of scrimmage. But he snapped the ball
and shotgun ran down the middle.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Of the field.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Now they didn't really fill full USC, but it was
a weird double pass. They didn't really fool the Trojans.
They were covering him, but he was he was gloved up.
But this guy can make the contested catch. Look, he's
he's a he's a star receiver.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
Uh.
Speaker 6 (11:19):
And if you're if in your mind's eye, number forty
four is going to remind you of Gronkowski.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
Tomorrow, Deck Dick, just one quick thing, just on him.
He'll give me like thirty seconds. Son, Who's who's got
to step up his game tomorrow to defend this guy?
Speaker 6 (11:32):
Well, I think the linebackers and the safeties, uh, you know,
he's you know, and if you want to play man coverage,
you gotta find you know, somebody who can who can
handle him. But I think you know, you squeeze him
in zone coverage. You've got to be aware, you know, uh, Dick,
you coach high school basketball, You're you're aware of where
the shooter is and you don't you know your zones.
You don't drift far away from a shooter. Well, you
(11:54):
better squeeze to this guy when he's running down the field.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
So what Ken Washington do overall schematically to prevent what
we saw in the second half of the Iowa game,
in the second half of the Indiana game, where it's
just four and a half yards and a cloud of
dust and there's nothing much that they were able to
do about it.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Well, I think they've got to keep fresh and have
a rotation there. But I think that we've been really
impressed with Carson Brunner. Right, He's a study. He's the
Big ten player of the week, and I would say
I'm looking for leadership. And this is let me emphasize,
this is not an indictment of Carson Brunner's past, because
(12:35):
he's a wonderful Husky.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
I see everything you see.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
But when I watch the Iowa and the Indiana game
on the road in the third quarter, when things are
starting to get you know, our grip is loosen it up,
and the football game's getting away from us. But there's
still plenty of times to time to turn it around
and get it back going momentum in our favor. I
think there needs to be more piss and vinegar on
that football team. They and I don't know if it's
(13:01):
the time zone or you know, they're the nine o'clock
and the kickoffs and all that. We're not going to
be facing tomorrow, obviously, but if things start to get
away from me a little, you gotta look at them
and say, hey, guys, we're only a touchdown down, We're
only ten points down. We still got twenty minutes of
football left. Yeah, that's when you got to You got
a cowboy up. You gotta grid up, and you gotta
fight for every blade of grass, and you know, in
(13:24):
a hostile environment, and you can't just kind of give
the appearance that you're you're accepting your fate. So somebody's
got to step up. I think Brunner, based on the
caliber player, is that his heart is competitiveness. He's got
to grab some face masks, shake some guys around, and
say no if in fact, the Huskies face the adversity
(13:44):
in a similar manner that we saw at Indiana and Iowa.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
So I'm wondering if we'll see more of number two tomorrow,
you know, kind of hearing some rumblings and he's been
getting maybe a little more run with the ones this week.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
We'll see what that means.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I mean, it may mean nothing and maybe incorrect obviously,
but do you think this feels like the kind of
game where maybe Jedfish wants to give number two a
few more snaps?
Speaker 4 (14:03):
And what does that look like?
Speaker 6 (14:04):
If you agree, well, I think that Jedfish has always
wanted to get as much of Demond Williams on there.
I don't think that will Rodgers has been really his
type of guy. You know, he kind of inherited it,
as it were, if you know the sequence of committing
to Kailin de Bors.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
So Damon Williams is his guy, just.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
A couple of things to reflect on on yards per
play when Rodgers is the quarterback the Huskies, this is
the entire football team six point four yards per play
with demand five point six. Not a big difference, but
close to a yard difference with Rogers having the advantage.
Now we know that our eyeballs know, we know exactly
the stylistic differences, right, I mean clearly Will Rodgers is
(14:48):
the passer demands more of the athlete. Now, but let
me contextualize a couple of things. Demond Williams has been
on the field for one hundred and twelve plays. He
has two completions when the ball traveled more than ten
yards in the air, and one of them was forty
when the score is forty sixteen at Iowa and it
(15:08):
was garbage time. The other one in Eastern Michigan a
minute less than two minutes ago in a three touchdown win.
So he has never had a competitive completion in his
life where the ball traveled more than ten yards. And
the air yards per completion for Demond is two point
two yards. Compare that to Will Rogers airyards per completion
six point four, So you know you're getting more of
(15:30):
a threat. Oh by the way I said, two completions
ten yards are more for Demon two, Will Rogers has
forty eight. So if you're a defense and you're looking okay,
number two, what does he does? He scare me if
I'm a defensive coordinator, Well, I know his quickness right,
but but measure okay? Is the athleticism worth it? Here's
an interesting stat. Demon Williams has six scrambles for thirty
(15:53):
seven yards six point two per scramble.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Will Rogers has ten scrambles.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
You're not going to scramble frequently for seventy two yards
seven point two. Now, I know that Demon Williams is
demonstrably a better athlete, but are are you getting that
much more of a running presence that it's worth offsetting
what you lose as a passer? Now, a year from now,
(16:21):
Demond Williams as a true sophomore, he may be lights
out as a passer, but he has not shown it yet.
So those are the thoughts I'd be thinking, to me,
this is a game that I'd want to have the
experience of Will Rogers in there. With that experience, and
to say nothing of the leadership component with the older guys.
You know, so at any rate. Now I'm not beating
(16:41):
the drum to see Demond Williams gotcha?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
All right, man, great stuff. It'd be fun to watch
tomorrow for sure. Have a good weekend, my friend, and
we're talking away.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Thanks to Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Well, you're in one of the great venues and the
pageantry of college football is unlike anything other, and you're
going to be in one of the premier houses in
that guards to enjoy.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Now, there's I think Tony tweeted out, there's what three
stadiums or four stadiums that seat over one hundred thousand people,
Penn State, Michigan, Ohio State, and Rose Bowl.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
And tomorrow I'll be at all.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Four college football. There's eight, but Penn State is the
second most. Yeah there you go.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
All right, Well, you know what, I'm gonna live in
a world where the top four are the ones I've
been in, So what the hell?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
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