May 13, 2025 • 12 mins
Former Mariners pitcher and current Yankees broadcaster Jeff Nelson joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about fellow announcer Dave Sims, Manager Aaron Boone and New York’s play of late, Julio Rodriguez’s perception, and the T-Mobile Park factor.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, uh, Yankee legend, former Mariner, legend, all around good guy,
former All Star. In two thousand and one, our friend
Jeff Nelson's with us here. He's in town with the
Yankee broadcast crew. Got us Boomer Assiasin was given Dave
Simms crap for takes time off already.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Did you see that? I didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I heard that he got on him a little bit
because he missed the you missed Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's not really yeah, yes, it's It's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's a smart movie.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's a veteran move by Boomer's busting his balls.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
He's like, you just got here? What is this? What
he should expect with the New York media.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's New York media and the it's the talk shows.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, you definitely have to expect that. He's been there before,
he's worked in New York before. He knows what's the deal,
what the deal is?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, no doubt. Well, it's great to see Jeff Nelson's
here again.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And before we talk some Yankee Mariners, how about the
news of the day in baseball where Pete Rose and
shoeless Joe Jackson, both of them reinstated by Rob Manford,
who says their punishment ended when they died well shoeless
Joe Jackson died like seventy five years ago, Pete Pete
Rose died last year. So, as a former player, your
thoughts on whether or not both those guys should be
in the Hall of I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I think it's up to the I think it's it's
hard for me to comment only because you know what
he did, and he bet on baseball and he was banned,
And you know a lot of a lot of good
players that didn't even bet on baseball, they don't get
in until they pass away. You know, that's the sad part.
You know, for instance, Loupanella, you know, you hope that
he gets into the Hall of Fame before he winds
up passing away, because he's definitely a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So as far as Pete Rose, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's uh, it's it's gonna be interesting to see if
the committee votes him in.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, it's it's hard to comment on something that that,
you know, what he did was wrong. I'm betting on
your own team betting on baseball, not a not admitting
it for a long time. But now you know everybody
everybody bets now, you know, every every TV or broadcast
is always promoting fan duel or another, uh another another
(01:55):
betting site.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So you know why not.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, what do you think the writers are gonna do?
Because SOFTI and I were talking about it last segment.
It's like it's different from from the steroid era, because
the steroid era that was helping the numbers, right, Pete
Rose was Charlie Hustle with over four thousand hits before
he ever bet on baseball as a manager, So like
it shouldn't it shouldn't impact what he did on the field.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No, I agree. I mean what he the numbers that
he put up on the field. It was the Hall
of Fame, Hall of Fame absolutely, So you know what
he did off the field, you know, that's that and
even on the field as a manager, that's what kept
him out. But his numbers as far as a player,
absolutely a Hall of famer.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Speaking of numbers, Aaron Judge, Wow, ridiculous. Aaron Boone was
on the radio show by the way, yesterday. We know
his brother, his brother was actually doing our radio show.
Quit went to the Rangers, right, everybody that works with
me ends up quitting. You quit, right, bloom Quist quit
SUSA got a job with the Rays.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Boone's got a job with the Rangers. So it's just amazing. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But I asked Aaron about what kind of guy he is,
and it took him like a tenth of a second
to say, he's the best he's on.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
What kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What kind of player have you observed behind the scenes, teammate?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
The whole thing.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He's he's He's a superstar and probably one of the
best hitters and that we've seen in a long long time.
He's amazing with people. He's amazing with fans. He goes
out of his way to talk to little kids, you know,
he he'll talk to everyone. As far as the media,
you don't see that very often. A lot of a
lot of the players now have no idea who we are.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's they have no idea about the past right played
before them.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I got news for you, power we're getting old.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, well I knew the past. I knew who played
before me. Way back in the sixties and the fifties,
you heard of these players, and you actually if you
ran across them in the street you would actually know, Hey,
you know that's Mickey Manno or Joe Demonte. You would
actually know who they were. These guys nowadays have no idea.
But he's he's, he's a tremendous guy.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
He's he's he's.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
An anomaly that you don't find very often. It's not
obviously on the field, but off the field he's the
same way.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
You know, there's a good stretch where the Yankee offense
didn't really look like the Yankee offense. I mean, like
the whole second half of April into early May. But
in the last six games, fifty six runs. They're back
to being the Yankee So what is real what we
saw for about a three week stretch or what we've
seen over the last week.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I mean you look at you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They go to Sacramento and they score like twenty nine
runs in those three games. Because the ball is a
Triple A park, it's a pcl' it's the PCL all
over again. The ball just flies, the wind blows out,
you get it in the air and it's a homer
and they hit I think eight home runs there. I
mean it was twelve total between the two teams. You
go back to Tampa Bay when they played them at home,
they didn't score at all. They got b two out
(04:39):
of three. Tampa Bay plays well at Yankee Stadium, and
then all of a sudden, the Padre is one of
the best National League teams, come in and they lose
two out of three.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think they're streaky.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know, you look, they have obviously a lot of
power everyone around Judge. I think Judge makes everyone better.
I think if you run a cross like tonight's matchup
is going to be a good matchup between Freedo and Wu.
I think if you run across the pitch, a good
pitching staff, they might shut they might shut these guys down, right,
But as far as as far as a mediocre staff,
(05:12):
they're not. They're not going to be able to shut
these guys down. I mean, I think even Hancock, as
well as he had throw throws. I think, go twenty
five year old kid, when you get in trouble, you
make one mistake, next thing you know, everything starts snowballing.
And that's exactly what happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, Jeff Nelson's one of us working for the S
Network right doing some TV for the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Dave Simms and Susan.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Waldman, I believe are doing the radio stuff and you
guys are doing the TV stuff, and I'm I'm just
curious about kind of what you think of what you
hear the national narrative is regarding Julio Rodriguez, right, I
mean two years ago we thought we had a superstar.
They give him this massive contract, and I don't know
where he is now, but yesterday Dick and I looked
it up. He was a hunter and Nathan baseball and ops,
which is not where you need him to be. I mean,
(05:51):
he had a playoff his glove last night. Probably should
have made that play yesterday, and centerfield did have the
home run obviously, But what's the perception of this guy,
like nationally, is he a star?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Is he not a star?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, you have to be if in order to be
a star, you have to be a star almost a
whole part the whole season. Yeah, And he's a guy
that better is better in the second half than the
first half. And he's gotten off to a slow start
the last few years here in Seattle, and it really
he's a guy that can carry your offense.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And when you when you don't have.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That type of player, then you're gonna struggle offensively, and
they've struggled here at Timo will Park. I think they
see him as I wouldn't say a superstar, probably a
a a really good player until he puts together a
whole season, you know, because he is a great talent.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He just hasn't been able to put together a whole season.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Which is more of a fluke Mariner team. The one
we saw last year with unbelievable pitching, particularly starting pitching,
and just horrendous offense. Are there one we're seeing this
year with above average offense and a little above average pitching.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, I think you're gonna get starters back. You're gonna
get Kirby and Gilbert back, so that'll definitely help the
starting rotation and the bullpens a little iffy. Besides Munos
on the back end, I think you probably could use
some help there. Offensively. I'd like the club, you know,
I think Edgar Martinez has done a great job. I
think once it starts getting a little bit warmer up here,
I think it. You know, probably you are in a division.
(07:16):
I mean, I think the whole American League is a
week league. Right If you look at the National League,
the National League again, just like last year, is a
really strong league.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The American League.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think you have a handful of teams, maybe four
or five teams that are decent. Everybody else is It's
pretty weak, and I think that helps out a team
like the Mariners. You know, Houston's mediocre. You look at
Texas mediocre. You know, so Seattle can easily win this division.
They get their starters back, they can easily win the
division because I think their offense is a little.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Bit better than last year. If he's oct to Dan, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I've talked to him twice. I mean when I was
here with the Marlins and I talked to him yesterday,
I was wondering because they hit so poorly here at
Team Mobile. I mean it's almost about fifty sixty point
difference between what they hit on the road. And I
was like, I don't remember our team having a hard
time hitting here.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Because you were awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, he goes, we complained, he said, we complained. We
just adjusted a lot quicker than what they're doing now.
And it doesn't seem like Aaron Judge has a harm
time hitting here as well.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Don't understand it, you know, I don't understand why.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You know, they used to be green that batter's eye,
then they painted it black and you know, deflecting the sun.
So I don't know why they have a hard The
Mariners have a hard time hitting at home.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So if I get your right, what you said prior
was the Mariners are.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
The best team in the West in your opinion, I
would think so.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I mean, once they get their starters back, those two starters,
and they're still going to have one of the best
starting staffs in baseball and definitely in the American League,
I think they they probably should win the West. You know,
let's see what they had, what happens during the you know,
trade deadline, and where they add if they add. Uh,
you know, Houston is going to be a decent team.
I don't see them as as a stronger team than Seattle,
(08:55):
and I don't see Texas as a stronger team than Seattle. Yeah,
you know, now Seger just went on the il, so
you know they're going to have They're going to have
their issues.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But I think it's all.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
About the pitching and once you get those guys back,
because I think the offense is a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Mariners are hitting two fifteen at home, which is second
worst in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Two sixty nine seventy is number two in baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Exactly, they go from the second worst to second best.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's our lot of life, Nelly, deal with it every year.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, I mean you pitched here, obviously, and it was
different back then when you got nine All Stars. Doesn't
matter what stadium you play. But did you notice when
hitters came here or when you pitched here that you
had an advantage?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I mean we always as a pitcher, you should always
think you have advantage anyway. But I think that it's
just different baseball, you know, and now it's analytical league driven. Uh.
You see a lot, a lot of a lot of
lift on guys. You don't see many guys that get
on top of the baseball and hitline drives. You look
at the big swings with two strikes, you know that
never used to be. Guys used to shorten up. Perfect example,
(09:56):
Brett boone. I mean he gets O two, he shortens
up his swing, and he still has tons of power
the other way, right, you know that's what happened Edgar
Martinez the same thing, O two. He had tons of
power the other way. These guys are swinging as hard
as they can still with two strikes, and that's just.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Not going to work.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So uh, the ninety five team needs their due. I
get a little bit tired of it being the only
thing that we recognize around here. Now we have the
twenty twenty two team obviously to kind of break that streak.
But that's thirty years ago, in seven months, you know
this October thirty years ago. Yeah, how often do you
guys talk? How often do you guys like, you know,
(10:35):
get together? And I assume there's gonna be some kind
of reunion coming up in October.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It was thirty years ago.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
The Mariners will market the heck out of it. But
you're still a question about that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You think it's you know, when we you're you're proud
to be a part of two great years.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And one and then ninety five.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And I think we talk a bit a little bit
more about it when I'm doing Yankee stuff, because they
want to always.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Bring that back up, Like I can't believe, you.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Know, the the the atmosphere and the Yankee locker room
when we beat him in the Kingdome, they were up to,
Oh they came out here and they lost.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think that that's more brought.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Up than than you know, some of the Mariner stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You know. I see Jay every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Dave Valley, yeah, you know, he wasn't on that team,
but still he was around Rick Riz obviously, you know,
calling the games back then.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But it's always a special time, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I just can't believe that this organization is the only
organization has never been to the World Series.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's amazing. I do want to ask you one more
because you mentioned Lou. How's he doing?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You know, I heard he's you know, he's gone through
some health health issues. I think he's doing okay. Now
he went over to Europe or Turkey to try to
get some experimental medicine done. But like I think he
belongs in the Hall of Fame. He's supposed to. I
think he was at the Old Timers Day last year.
I saw him and I did talk to him good.
(11:55):
I think he's going to go again this year, and
he's a you know, him and Joe to the best
managers I've ever played for.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Lou.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I still miss We still tell stories because the one
interesting thing was like, like, well, who was he? Who was
the force? We talked about it last day. Who was
the force in the locker room in ninety five? And
I'm like, well, it was a junior, was it Jay?
Was it was it Edgar or Randy? I'm like, no,
it was Lou, right me. Lou was the force.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean he was. He was the guy in there,
So I think he belongs. It's a shame.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think he came up what one vote short last
year the year before. He deserved to be in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All right, well, just do me a favorite little love
for your buddy Softie and Dick on the S Network tonight.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah right, and give out the website. Ninety three three kJ.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Good to see you man, You guys too.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Jeff Nelson with us on the radio show We've Gotta
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Well, uh, Yankee legend, former Mariner, legend, all around good guy,
former All Star. In two thousand and one, our friend
Jeff Nelson's with us here. He's in town with the
Yankee broadcast crew. Got us Boomer Assiasin was given Dave
Simms crap for takes time off already.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Did you see that? I didn't.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I heard that he got on him a little bit
because he missed the you missed Sacramento.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
It's not really yeah, yes, it's It's not a bad thing.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
That's a smart movie.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
It's a veteran move by Boomer's busting his balls.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
He's like, you just got here? What is this? What
he should expect with the New York media.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
It's New York media and the it's the talk shows.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
You got it?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yes, you definitely have to expect that. He's been there before,
he's worked in New York before. He knows what's the deal,
what the deal is?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah, no doubt. Well, it's great to see Jeff Nelson's
here again.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
And before we talk some Yankee Mariners, how about the
news of the day in baseball where Pete Rose and
shoeless Joe Jackson, both of them reinstated by Rob Manford,
who says their punishment ended when they died well shoeless
Joe Jackson died like seventy five years ago, Pete Pete
Rose died last year. So, as a former player, your
thoughts on whether or not both those guys should be
in the Hall of I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I think it's up to the I think it's it's
hard for me to comment only because you know what
he did, and he bet on baseball and he was banned,
And you know a lot of a lot of good
players that didn't even bet on baseball, they don't get
in until they pass away. You know, that's the sad part.
You know, for instance, Loupanella, you know, you hope that
he gets into the Hall of Fame before he winds
up passing away, because he's definitely a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
So as far as Pete Rose, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
It's uh, it's it's gonna be interesting to see if
the committee votes him in.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
You know, it's it's hard to comment on something that that,
you know, what he did was wrong. I'm betting on
your own team betting on baseball, not a not admitting
it for a long time. But now you know everybody
everybody bets now, you know, every every TV or broadcast
is always promoting fan duel or another, uh another another
(01:55):
betting site.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
So you know why not.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Well, what do you think the writers are gonna do?
Because SOFTI and I were talking about it last segment.
It's like it's different from from the steroid era, because
the steroid era that was helping the numbers, right, Pete
Rose was Charlie Hustle with over four thousand hits before
he ever bet on baseball as a manager, So like
it shouldn't it shouldn't impact what he did on the field.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
No, I agree. I mean what he the numbers that
he put up on the field. It was the Hall
of Fame, Hall of Fame absolutely, So you know what
he did off the field, you know, that's that and
even on the field as a manager, that's what kept
him out. But his numbers as far as a player,
absolutely a Hall of famer.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Speaking of numbers, Aaron Judge, Wow, ridiculous. Aaron Boone was
on the radio show by the way, yesterday. We know
his brother, his brother was actually doing our radio show.
Quit went to the Rangers, right, everybody that works with
me ends up quitting. You quit, right, bloom Quist quit
SUSA got a job with the Rays.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Boone's got a job with the Rangers. So it's just amazing. Man.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
But I asked Aaron about what kind of guy he is,
and it took him like a tenth of a second
to say, he's the best he's on.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
What kind of guy?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
What kind of player have you observed behind the scenes, teammate?
Speaker 4 (03:05):
The whole thing.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
He's he's He's a superstar and probably one of the
best hitters and that we've seen in a long long time.
He's amazing with people. He's amazing with fans. He goes
out of his way to talk to little kids, you know,
he he'll talk to everyone. As far as the media,
you don't see that very often. A lot of a
lot of the players now have no idea who we are.
Speaker 5 (03:26):
You know.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
It's they have no idea about the past right played
before them.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
I got news for you, power we're getting old.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Yeah, well I knew the past. I knew who played
before me. Way back in the sixties and the fifties,
you heard of these players, and you actually if you
ran across them in the street you would actually know, Hey,
you know that's Mickey Manno or Joe Demonte. You would
actually know who they were. These guys nowadays have no idea.
But he's he's, he's a tremendous guy.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
He's he's he's.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
An anomaly that you don't find very often. It's not
obviously on the field, but off the field he's the
same way.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Interesting.
Speaker 5 (03:59):
You know, there's a good stretch where the Yankee offense
didn't really look like the Yankee offense. I mean, like
the whole second half of April into early May. But
in the last six games, fifty six runs. They're back
to being the Yankee So what is real what we
saw for about a three week stretch or what we've
seen over the last week.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Well, I mean you look at you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
They go to Sacramento and they score like twenty nine
runs in those three games. Because the ball is a
Triple A park, it's a pcl' it's the PCL all
over again. The ball just flies, the wind blows out,
you get it in the air and it's a homer
and they hit I think eight home runs there. I
mean it was twelve total between the two teams. You
go back to Tampa Bay when they played them at home,
they didn't score at all. They got b two out
(04:39):
of three. Tampa Bay plays well at Yankee Stadium, and
then all of a sudden, the Padre is one of
the best National League teams, come in and they lose
two out of three.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
I think they're streaky.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
You know, you look, they have obviously a lot of
power everyone around Judge. I think Judge makes everyone better.
I think if you run a cross like tonight's matchup
is going to be a good matchup between Freedo and Wu.
I think if you run across the pitch, a good
pitching staff, they might shut they might shut these guys down, right,
But as far as as far as a mediocre staff,
(05:12):
they're not. They're not going to be able to shut
these guys down. I mean, I think even Hancock, as
well as he had throw throws. I think, go twenty
five year old kid, when you get in trouble, you
make one mistake, next thing you know, everything starts snowballing.
And that's exactly what happened yesterday.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Well, Jeff Nelson's one of us working for the S
Network right doing some TV for the Yankees.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Dave Simms and Susan.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Waldman, I believe are doing the radio stuff and you
guys are doing the TV stuff, and I'm I'm just
curious about kind of what you think of what you
hear the national narrative is regarding Julio Rodriguez, right, I
mean two years ago we thought we had a superstar.
They give him this massive contract, and I don't know
where he is now, but yesterday Dick and I looked
it up. He was a hunter and Nathan baseball and ops,
which is not where you need him to be. I mean,
(05:51):
he had a playoff his glove last night. Probably should
have made that play yesterday, and centerfield did have the
home run obviously, But what's the perception of this guy,
like nationally, is he a star?
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Is he not a star?
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Well, you have to be if in order to be
a star, you have to be a star almost a
whole part the whole season. Yeah, And he's a guy
that better is better in the second half than the
first half. And he's gotten off to a slow start
the last few years here in Seattle, and it really
he's a guy that can carry your offense.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
And when you when you don't have.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
That type of player, then you're gonna struggle offensively, and
they've struggled here at Timo will Park. I think they
see him as I wouldn't say a superstar, probably a
a a really good player until he puts together a
whole season, you know, because he is a great talent.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
He just hasn't been able to put together a whole season.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Which is more of a fluke Mariner team. The one
we saw last year with unbelievable pitching, particularly starting pitching,
and just horrendous offense. Are there one we're seeing this
year with above average offense and a little above average pitching.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, I think you're gonna get starters back. You're gonna
get Kirby and Gilbert back, so that'll definitely help the
starting rotation and the bullpens a little iffy. Besides Munos
on the back end, I think you probably could use
some help there. Offensively. I'd like the club, you know,
I think Edgar Martinez has done a great job. I
think once it starts getting a little bit warmer up here,
I think it. You know, probably you are in a division.
(07:16):
I mean, I think the whole American League is a
week league. Right If you look at the National League,
the National League again, just like last year, is a
really strong league.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
The American League.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I think you have a handful of teams, maybe four
or five teams that are decent. Everybody else is It's
pretty weak, and I think that helps out a team
like the Mariners. You know, Houston's mediocre. You look at
Texas mediocre. You know, so Seattle can easily win this division.
They get their starters back, they can easily win the
division because I think their offense is a little.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
Bit better than last year. If he's oct to Dan, oh, yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
I've talked to him twice. I mean when I was
here with the Marlins and I talked to him yesterday,
I was wondering because they hit so poorly here at
Team Mobile. I mean it's almost about fifty sixty point
difference between what they hit on the road. And I
was like, I don't remember our team having a hard
time hitting here.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Because you were awesome.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Yeah, he goes, we complained, he said, we complained. We
just adjusted a lot quicker than what they're doing now.
And it doesn't seem like Aaron Judge has a harm
time hitting here as well.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Don't understand it, you know, I don't understand why.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
You know, they used to be green that batter's eye,
then they painted it black and you know, deflecting the sun.
So I don't know why they have a hard The
Mariners have a hard time hitting at home.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
So if I get your right, what you said prior
was the Mariners are.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
The best team in the West in your opinion, I
would think so.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
I mean, once they get their starters back, those two starters,
and they're still going to have one of the best
starting staffs in baseball and definitely in the American League,
I think they they probably should win the West. You know,
let's see what they had, what happens during the you know,
trade deadline, and where they add if they add. Uh,
you know, Houston is going to be a decent team.
I don't see them as as a stronger team than Seattle,
(08:55):
and I don't see Texas as a stronger team than Seattle. Yeah,
you know, now Seger just went on the il, so
you know they're going to have They're going to have
their issues.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
But I think it's all.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
About the pitching and once you get those guys back,
because I think the offense is a little bit better.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Mariners are hitting two fifteen at home, which is second
worst in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Two sixty nine seventy is number two in baseball.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Exactly, they go from the second worst to second best.
Speaker 5 (09:19):
It's our lot of life, Nelly, deal with it every year.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
No, I mean you pitched here, obviously, and it was
different back then when you got nine All Stars. Doesn't
matter what stadium you play. But did you notice when
hitters came here or when you pitched here that you
had an advantage?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I mean we always as a pitcher, you should always
think you have advantage anyway. But I think that it's
just different baseball, you know, and now it's analytical league driven. Uh.
You see a lot, a lot of a lot of
lift on guys. You don't see many guys that get
on top of the baseball and hitline drives. You look
at the big swings with two strikes, you know that
never used to be. Guys used to shorten up. Perfect example,
(09:56):
Brett boone. I mean he gets O two, he shortens
up his swing, and he still has tons of power
the other way, right, you know that's what happened Edgar
Martinez the same thing, O two. He had tons of
power the other way. These guys are swinging as hard
as they can still with two strikes, and that's just.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Not going to work.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
So uh, the ninety five team needs their due. I
get a little bit tired of it being the only
thing that we recognize around here. Now we have the
twenty twenty two team obviously to kind of break that streak.
But that's thirty years ago, in seven months, you know
this October thirty years ago. Yeah, how often do you
guys talk? How often do you guys like, you know,
(10:35):
get together? And I assume there's gonna be some kind
of reunion coming up in October.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
It was thirty years ago.
Speaker 5 (10:40):
The Mariners will market the heck out of it. But
you're still a question about that.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You think it's you know, when we you're you're proud
to be a part of two great years.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And one and then ninety five.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
And I think we talk a bit a little bit
more about it when I'm doing Yankee stuff, because they
want to always.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Bring that back up, Like I can't believe, you.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Know, the the the atmosphere and the Yankee locker room
when we beat him in the Kingdome, they were up to,
Oh they came out here and they lost.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
I think that that's more brought.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Up than than you know, some of the Mariner stuff.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
You know. I see Jay every once in a while.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Dave Valley, yeah, you know, he wasn't on that team,
but still he was around Rick Riz obviously, you know,
calling the games back then.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
But it's always a special time, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I just can't believe that this organization is the only
organization has never been to the World Series.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
It's amazing. I do want to ask you one more
because you mentioned Lou. How's he doing?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
You know, I heard he's you know, he's gone through
some health health issues. I think he's doing okay. Now
he went over to Europe or Turkey to try to
get some experimental medicine done. But like I think he
belongs in the Hall of Fame. He's supposed to. I
think he was at the Old Timers Day last year.
I saw him and I did talk to him good.
(11:55):
I think he's going to go again this year, and
he's a you know, him and Joe to the best
managers I've ever played for.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Lou.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
I still miss We still tell stories because the one
interesting thing was like, like, well, who was he? Who was
the force? We talked about it last day. Who was
the force in the locker room in ninety five? And
I'm like, well, it was a junior, was it Jay?
Was it was it Edgar or Randy? I'm like, no,
it was Lou, right me. Lou was the force.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
I mean he was. He was the guy in there,
So I think he belongs. It's a shame.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I think he came up what one vote short last
year the year before. He deserved to be in the
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
All right, well, just do me a favorite little love
for your buddy Softie and Dick on the S Network tonight.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Yeah right, and give out the website. Ninety three three kJ.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Good to see you man, You guys too.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Jeff Nelson with us on the radio show We've Gotta
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