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January 3, 2025 12 mins
John Canzano of the Bald Faced Truth and 750 The Game in Oregon joins Dave Softy Mahler to talk about the Ducks’ blowout loss in the Rose Bowl, fans’ anger in having to play Ohio State, the season disappointment, and how the school can move forward.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You were in rare form on social media. If people
aren't following you already on social media, they should. After
the Rose Bull, you danced on the grave a little
maybe a little ballet on the grave maybe, and you
had some fun with that.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Well if you if you can point me to another
place to dance on, I'll do it, no doubt.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Man.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
I mean, that was the greatest non husky rose Bowl
of all time. But let me ask you this, honestly,
when you looked up and saw thirty four to nothing
in the second quarter, how stunning was that to witness
that and see that in person?

Speaker 1 (00:34):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:34):
It was.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
It was like the air in the stadium had been
let out. And I had traveled down obviously the airports
that I went through at Portland and into southern California,
there were so many Duck fans on the plane and
everybody had their story about you know, it had been
twenty years since they've been there. And one guy I
talked to who hadn't been to a Rose Bull and

(00:56):
since it had been like sixty years, he was a
kid when he went to the Rose Bull labs. So
it was just a lot of letdown, and you know,
with all the build up, and you guys know, I
mean the Huskies had all that build up last season
into all those games and to be behind thirty four
nothing like the game didn't even start. It was just
it was a face plant by Oregon.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Well what happened?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Why if there's a blame pie, who gets the bigger
piece of the pie?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
In your mind?

Speaker 1 (01:23):
I think the coaching staff. It has to go on
the coaching staff. I think you know Dan Lanning, you know,
and Husky fans know this better than anything. Dan Lanning
his first punch is his best punch. He's the first
half guy who has struggled in the third quarter to
make adjustments. They've they've been a sketchy third quarter team
all season long. And last year I felt like Oregon

(01:44):
played better in that first meeting with Washington than it
did in the second meeting with Washington, meaning that the
coaching staff is just maybe not asdjusting in the same
way that others are adjusting. And you had tosh Lapoy
against Chip Kelly, and tosh Lapoi got embarrassed in that
Rose Bowl. There's no way around it. Chip Kelly coach

(02:04):
circles around him, looked like Oregon was operating on game
plan from earlier in the season, and Ohio State was
they had a plan, they had a better plan, they
executed it.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, John Gonzano's with us on the air, and that
brings me to my next question before we talk about
kind of where this disappointment sits and the annals of
Oregon history, and again John Gonzana with us, and I'm
kind of paraphrasing here. I thought you had a post
on AX the other day where you were asked about
your your top three like in game coaches, and I
think you had landing on that list, and I wonder

(02:36):
if you still would have landing on that list.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I would amend that list. And you know I had,
you know, I put Kirby Smart up there because he
was the only guy who had done it. Yeah, and
I thought, you know, Freeman Notre Dame great. You know,
obviously they came through, he would still be on that.
But you look at Sark and the coaches who are
coaching in that round of eight, and there wasn't a
lot of proof of performance outside of Kirby Smart. And

(02:59):
I think Dan right now has to be asking himself,
do you take some of Uncle Phil's money? And do
you divert that into potentially beefing up your coaching staff
and getting a guy with gray hair in there who's
done it before and let somebody who's not just a
recruiter be your coordinator.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (03:19):
All right, well okay, So here's here's here's where I'm
coming from. I am over the moon as a Husky
fan over what happened in the in the Rose Bowl
on Wednesday, Thrilled beyond belief. I mean, he could not
have asked for a better way to start twenty twenty
five than for Demon Williams to be established as a
star quarterback and the Sun Bowl.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
We'll see if he can live up to it.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Oregon gets their ass kicked on New Year's Day, the
basketball team gets drilled by Illinois yesterday, and then today
Oregon loses the commitment.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Of a five star quarterback.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Obviously, Where does the Rose Bowl and the way this
year ended for Oregon rank on the list of the
all time disappointing Oregon football seasons?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Ever?

Speaker 1 (04:03):
I think that game is the flattest I have seen
in Oregon play in twenty years. It was the most
disappointing outcome in twenty plus seasons that I've covered because
of the build up, because of thirteen and zero, because
you were the number one team, because you played Ohio
State so well in that first meeting, and then you
just go and you lay an egg. And I think
Oregon fans more than anybody, know that. You know that.

(04:27):
You could say, Hey, it's something to build on. You
need to build on it all you want, but you
need to learn from it. You need to come back
with a better plan next year, because you know this
playoff was new. All five of the conference champions got
knocked out, right, Maybe you don't want to be a
conference champion. Maybe you know, maybe that has something to
do with it. But I couldn't help but think there

(04:48):
was a coaching problem in that game and Ohio State
had had a better plan.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, John, I got to be honest with you when
you say, you know, maybe building towards something. And if
I'm way off based on this, please correct me, because
I'm not buying the scenes the way you are. I'm
just there when it's convenient for me, and right now
it's very convenient for me.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
But it it feels like Oregon's been building for something
for thirty years, ever since the ninety five Rose Bull
and ever since Kenny Wheaton. And this is twenty ten.
They got close, twenty fourteen, they got close. Last year,
they got close. This year they got close, and they
just can't find a way to get over the hump.

(05:29):
Is there is there a deeper issue with the way
that they're building this program and maybe the authority and
the power and the reliance on a guy like Phil Knight.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
Yeah, I think there's questions to be asked there. I
don't think you're totally off base, but I think Oregon
fans would take the trajectory short term of Dan Lanning,
you know, getting a thirteen win season this year and go, Okay,
now you got to learn from it. You got to
figure it out. I tetched it a little bit with Lanning,
and he said live and learn. I mean that was
what he came back with because and he's got to
go out and prove that now. Yeah, but you're right,

(06:00):
there's a little bit of a you know, the I
think the unfair stigma that Oregon gets is that it
was a get rich quick thing, because you it was
a build that started in ninety four ninety five with
Rich Brooks and Mike Bollatti, and there has been massive
acceleration in this era because Oregon is better positioned than
just about anyone to matter. This is their time. And

(06:22):
that's the thing that's concerning to me, is this is
the time where you can buy a championship and you
can get the players in there, and you can go
out and you can spend more than anybody else, and
you can be the Yankees while others have to be
the Oakland A's, and you can outspend people. And Oregon,
you know, didn't break it, didn't crack the top four.
So you know, I think they have a coaching issue.

(06:43):
They should take some of that money and they should
go out and find some experienced guys who have done it.
But the problem is all of these recruiters want to
be coordinators so they can put it on their resume
so they can go out and get a head coaching job.
And so how do you keep Toosh Lapoy happy in
recruiting if you have to motim here. That's a question
that Oregon's gonna maybe have to answer.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, well, John Gonzano's with us.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
How John, how appropriate is it to blame the structure
of the CFP the seating. I think if they would
have gone and just taken the top four teams and
not given teams like Boise and ASU a bye, then
Oregon would have been playing Boise or Indiana I think
in the second round, and then either ASU, Notre Dame,

(07:25):
or Penn State in the semi finals. So it on
paper looks like a bit of an easier road. They
could have been drilled by Ohio State eventually anyway in
the title game, or maybe even a Notre Dame or
a Penn State.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
But how appropriate, how.

Speaker 3 (07:38):
Reasonable is it for Oregon fans to complain about the
structure of the CFP and the fact that they had
to play Ohouse State.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
After you own the coaching deficiency in the in the
total slate face plant, and the lack of performance, you
can get to that other stuff, because yeah, there's a
seating issue with the playoffs. No matter who was number one,
there was a seating issue. The five seed had a
had a better path to the potential championship, and twenty
four days off is you know, the conference champions are

(08:07):
proving twenty four days off wasn't an advantage. It was
a rust versus rest thing. You know, we're going to
look like a bull team that was a little out
of rhythm. Ohio State looked like it was primed. I
mean it, you know, and they and they've got tons
of talent and great coaching, you know, everyone all over
Ryan Day, but you know, Chip Kelly and Ryan Day.
That was a masterclass in that Rose Bowl. But I

(08:27):
think after you do all the hey, they sucked, the
coaching staff wasn't good, the plan wasn't good, they got embarrassed.
After you do all of that, you can get to, hey,
there's a problem with a format, and if they don't
fix the format, somebody else is going to end up
in this position next season.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
How personally satisfying do you think this was for Chip Kelly?

Speaker 1 (08:48):
You know, I don't know he would dismiss it, he
would wave it off. I think it would. I think
he has more of an ax to grind with UCLA.
I think his time at Oregon he looks back on
it fondly. But I think it was very satisfying for
Ryan Day and Chip Kelly after especially after the Michigan performance,
right to look like, look, they just just mantled Tennessee

(09:10):
and then they use the same plan essentially to dismantle Oregon,
and they don't look like they're going to be stopped.
And so I think the ultimate satisfaction for Chip will
be you know, if they win the title in Atlanta,
he doesn't have to recruit in the offseason afterwards. He
can just go sit on a beach somewhere. I think,
you know that's gonna be a fat and happy Chip Kelly.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Well, John Gonzano is with us the opposite of fat
and happy. He's happy, but he's also fit, by the way.
Trust me, the guy's yoked. I've seen him lately. He
looks phenomenal. But John, I got to ask you because
Husky fans are having some fun with this, right, I'm
having some fun with this.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
We began our show yesterday with a bunch of highlights
from the Rose Bowl, you know, just mocking them, pointing fingers,
as you said, dancing all over the grave. I mean, hell,
we're dancing all over the cemetery after this thing on Wednesday.
How much does that bother Oregon fans that Husky fans
are having a big party up here and just in
joined the hell out of this, you think.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, I think everybody who isn't happy with kind of
the culture of college football in twenty twenty four is
taking a jab at Organ right now. Not just Washington fans,
I mean social media lit up after the game with
people trying to you know, take shots at Oregon and
point out that that, you know, just buying a roster
or outspending everybody isn't the way to do it. So

(10:22):
I think there's a lot of pent up hostility that's
out there from people who are upset about that and
you know, don't like what they see happening. So I
think the Organ fans that I saw and I talked with,
you know, I just flew back today, they you know,
they're just a little flat. They're despondent because they had

(10:42):
such high hopes and I think a lot of them
were thinking, you know, go to the Rose Bowl and
then maybe go to the Cotton Bowl, and then a
lot of people were booked to the National Championship Game.
I went back online and looked at my flight from
Portland to Atlanta, and you know, seventy five percent of
the plane was open all of a sudden, and it
was full when I booked it. So I think there
are a lot of plans that changed at the Rose

(11:05):
Bowl on January one.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
Okay, what about going forward?

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Dylan Gabriel's gone, Dante More, I presume is going to
be in as the starting quarterback. Is there any reason
to just not think that Oregon just reloads and takes
a run again next year.

Speaker 1 (11:19):
Yeah, I think that that's the mindset that they're taking.
But you know, I would caution them. They won games
this year, but they didn't win the one that mattered,
that mattered most. And you know, there's a little bit
of there's an NFL feel to this season now in
college football, where you need to be playing your best
at the end of the year. And Chiefs proved it
a year ago. They lost six games. They were bad
in the middle of the season. Ohio State had the

(11:40):
loss of Michigan. But you know, you want to be
playing that football at the end of the year. And
I think, you know, Dan Lanning's going to learn from this.
But I would be really surprised if he didn't go
out and at least find some coach who has coached
in big games, yep, and get him on his staff.
He needs some help, all.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Right, Well, we'll keep an eye on him. Man. I
just want to know one thing before you go.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
If this game had been close, let's say it's a
three or four point game with four or five minutes
to go, what player had landing designated to fake an injury?

Speaker 2 (12:08):
You think in the fourth quarter, you.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Know they should take it though, you know they deserve it.
They deserve all of the jabs and the barbs and
the dancing on the grave because they didn't show up
and it was a big game, and.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
You know what they were doing, the exact same thing
when you doub got drilled by Michigan. And that's what
a rivalry is all about, man for sure. All Right, listen, dude,
travel safe, good stuff, Appreciate this, and we'll talk down
the road, buddy.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
All right.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
John Gonzanto with US recapping the Rose Bull thrashing of
Oregon by Ohio State. I think the Buckeyes may have
just yeah, they just scored again, by the way, so
this is not even close to being over yet
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