December 2, 2025 • 18 mins
Jon Wilner of The San Jose Mercury News and Wilner Hotline joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Ducks’ win over the Huskies, the bowl games possible for UW, coaching moves around college football, the new playoff rankings, and his pick.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Here he is the Pope of the pack, the big
ten baron.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
He's on a five game win streak, by the way
now after getting you Oregon minus the six and a
half against you, Dob, He's ten and four on the
air this year.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
He's Johnny Wilner and he's with us.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Now.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
How are you, man? I'm good? Thanks? How are you guys?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Pretty good?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Bummed out about what happened on Saturday, but not a
surprise at Husky Stadium. I know you picked Oregon to cover,
and I gotta be honest with you, man, I think
Oregon's good. I don't think they're that good, and maybe
college football just isn't that good. But I did not
see I think an elite football team in the Oregon
Ducks on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
How about you?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No, I think that they have for the most part,
been very good, but not elite this season. Now. I
think some of it has to especially the last few weeks.
They're out missing their top two receivers, so that does
have an impact on the passing game. But they are
not playing like they were playing last November and when
they went into the playoff as the you know, the favorite. Really,
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but I'm not sure that they're in a worse position
because you don't want to be peeking too early. And
I think that it's possible. Dan Landing learned that lesson
the hard way last year, and and so we'll see
if they can, you know, up their game in December.
But they are not nearly as overpowering as they were
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a year ago.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
John Again, Husky fans, including myself, not thrilled with the
play calling from Jed Fish. I mean, the passing game
was miserable, to say the least, particularly on first down,
where they were two of eight with two sacks and
two interceptions every time they threw the ball on first down.
I don't think and Softie's asked Jed the question. It
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was a while ago, but he's asking the question, would he,
by the way, at the beginning of the season, right
or in the middle middle of the year, when you've
ever relinquished play calling duties? As his answer was no,
But how about a different question for you? Should he
had Fish be willing to relinquish his play calling?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
This especially when a guy, hey, look who's on the market,
Jonathan Smith is out there on the market.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
What do you think I think he should be willing
to consider it? You know, the end of the season,
everybody does a self scout, and I would say that
Jedfish should give it some serious thought. I don't know that.
I think he has to. I think what he's got
to do is recruit better offensive linemen. I think that's
a big problem for them. And it's fine their offensive
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line and their skill players. It's fine against Minnesota and Illinois.
It is not good enough to beat the best teams
in the Big Ten. And I don't care who's calling
the plays. You know, you get at Bill Walla's calling
the plays. If your offensive line is not that good,
there's only so much you're gonna be able to do
against the really good opponents.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, four sacks, six TfL is allowed against the Ducks
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So what's the situation?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Can you explain to people the situation with the bulls man,
because you still have all this connection to the old
Pack twelve. I don't know how excited, honestly, guys, Husky
fans are for a ball game, right if you're not
in the college football playoff, then okay, whatever, But what
is the thing to be.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
To know?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Excuse me about this ball schedule as it sits right now.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Well, basically the legacy the twelve legacy PAC twelve teams
are tied to the same bowls that they were when
they were together in the conference, which means, in order,
the Alamo, Las Vegas, Holiday Sun, and LA Bulls, and
then there's a couple of other options below LA. So
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that's the deal. They didn't The only other option would
have been to reconfigure the bowl arrangements for the ACC
and the Big Ten and the Big twelve, and they
just thought it was easier to to keep those teams
tied to the PAC twelves games. This is supposed to
be the last year of it, but if they don't
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change the CFP for next season, if it stays at twelve,
we may have this arrangement one more year. Wow.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
All right, Saftie and I are largely in agreement when
it comes to non playoff bowl games. They're they're pretty worthless,
and they're just like they're all the same. I would
make one exception, though, and I think I hold still
the Holiday Bowl in much higher regard than I hold
all the rest of the non CFP bowl games. And
(05:33):
the Huskies could get there as it looks like it's
one of the two places. What are the chances do
you think that the Huskies do land at the Holiday Bowl?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And what needs to happen.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Less than fifty to fifty Uh maybe thirty percent, forty percent.
I think it's you know, the Huskies are not going
to El Paso, right. The Bulls do not like repeats.
So to me, it's either the Holiday pixither Washington or Arizona.
And if the Holiday Arizona, Washington's gonna end up at
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the La Bowl against the Mountain West Roona. I think
that the Holiday would probably lean toward Arizona. They are hot,
they have nine wins, they are ranked eighteenth in the
New CFP. It's a close. You know, it's an easy flight,
decent drive for Arizona fans for ticket sales, that's my guest.
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But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean, the Holiday Ball is now on January second,
by the way, and it's played at the at the
San Diego State Aztec Stadium snap Dragon Stadium, So I
don't know. I'm gonna agree with Dick that the Holiday
Ball just the allure of the Holiday Ball, the name
Holiday Bawl means a lot more than the other games.
But I just think the twelve game playoff has just
kind of ruined the bowl season for a lot of
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teams out there, and Washington's probably one of them. But hey,
let's talk about some coaching things that came up today.
Kalate Sataki staying at BYU turning down Penn State. He's LDS,
He's Mormon. Is that right, Sataki?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I believe so. Yes, he's perfect py He's perfect for him,
and he's perfect for PYU, And I think that was
the smart move. It would have been a bad deal
for him at Penn State. Some coaches just fit really
well at certain places and nowhere else. And he's perfect
for BYU.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well where does Penn State go?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Now? Boy? Good, I think they got to start over.
I mean, what they should do is try to go
get Matt Campbell from Iowa State. Right, he has not
left Iowa State. He's been a one in man for years.
The guy's a phenomenal coach. You win eight or nine
games all the time at Iowa State, you're doing something right.
I don't know why they didn't go after him hard
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early on, but they, Boy, they are having a hard
time finding a coach, and you wouldn't expect that. It's
Penn State, But that's my guess is that maybe they
try to lure Matt Campbell out of Ames.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Are you surprised at all?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The College Football playoff rankings just came out in the
last hour and Old Miss was not negatively effect did
by Lane Kiffin leaving, unlike what we saw with Florida
State and Jordan Travis. So evidently a quarterback's more important
than a head coach as far as rankings go. Were
you surprised that Old Miss wasn't docked with without having
their head coach the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
No, I was. I mean, I was a little surprised
that they moved up, but not that they kind of
held their ground. There's one big difference though, between ole
Miss and Florida State, and that is that the committee
got to see Florida State play without Jordan Travis through
and Florida State did not look good. They don't. They
aren't going to have a data point to judge Ole
(08:38):
Miss without Kiffen, so that could help the rebels. I
think it also might help that Kiffen basically released Charlie
West Junior from his LSU duties to go back to
ole Miss to be the offensive coordinator through the playoffs
right to provide some continuity, and that could also have
impacted the committee's decision.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I think what the Committee did to Florida State
last year was disgraceful, to be honest with you. I mean,
imagine the NFL. You know what, you guys aren't playing
very well right now. We don't think you'll do well
in the playoffs, so you can't go. Somebody else can
take your spot. I mean, it's just the body of work.
Whatever happened to the body of work. But John Wilder
is with us on the air. You want to weigh in,
by the way, and the Lane Kiffin think. I know
(09:21):
it's an sec deal, but it's the biggest story in
college football with him leaving Old miss Early a playoff
team to go be the head coach at LSU. He's
taken crap from a lot of people. Some folks are
defending him. Where do you fall in the Lane Kiffin story?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Man, A couple things real quick. One, nobody should be surprised.
He's the worst. He's like the guy in Seinfeld, the bad.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Breaker upper right.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
He is. This was this was it was going to
be ugly the moment he got hired by Old Miss.
The breakup was going to be bad. But the other
thing that has struck me more than anything else is
that is the ESPN constant to interest. Right, You've got
those guys on on game Day, the most influential college
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football show there is. They're all saying, oh, Ole Miss
should let him stay and coach him in the playoff
while he's employed by a rival school and can recruit
those players. Yes, and yet, and and the thing is,
who's Lin kIPS agent, Jimmy Sexton, who's Nick Saban's agent,
Jimmy Sexton, kurb Street, Jimmy Second Right, They're all compromised,
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and yet they're out there on that platform, and it's
I think it's a problem for college for college football.
But that's my other thought.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You also mentioned that the academic calendar is a problem
for college football. Yeah, explain that to us and what
needs to change so we don't have coaches leaving CFP
teams before they play in the CFP.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Well, see, that's the thing I don't think he can change.
But the point that a lot of people, you know,
I saw a lot of stuff like Dan Orlowski and
some other guys on there just ripping the college football calendar.
And it's like the reason the college football calendar is
the way to is because a school because they have to.
The players have to enroll at they're new schools in
January when the semester starts, so you have to if
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they're going to transfer, they have to do it before
the semester at their new school. That's the problem. They
can't just pick up and go from one college to
another college in the middle of February. The higher education
doesn't allow for that. So unless there's only two options really,
which is you move the entire football calendar up, which
(11:32):
I think they should do. You play the national championship
at the Rose Bowl every year. Then you start what
is effectively free agency and coaching changes, and the kids
can get where they want to go in time to
enroll in January. The other option is you move the
transfer portal till May, but that has been proposed and
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was shot down by almost everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, there's a third option, John, and that's let football
players enroll when they want.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They're not regular students. Why treat it well regular students?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
That's that is a bridge that the university presidents and
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. The university presidents
are not willing to go there yet. Yeah, maybe in
a couple of years, but not right now.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What do you think of the Beaves getting JaMarcus Shepard?
How do you think he'll do down there?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I think it depends on who he hires as his coordinators,
and it depends on how much NIL and revenue sharing
the Beavers can muster. I mean, kids will want to
play for him, but they're gonna want their dollars more.
And if they don't have enough ANIL and rev share
to compete with Sandego State and Boise State, I think
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he's gonna have a hard time.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
What about the same question for Bob Chesney at UCLA?
Is at an unfixable situation in their current state?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
No, I don't think it is. I'm just not sure
that Bob Chesney is the right guy. I mean, they're
banking on the fact that because because Kirk Signetti wanted
JMU and went in the is doing great, that Bob Chesney,
who won a JMU, can go to UCLA and essentially
be Signetti two point zero. And I don't know that
that's the case. They are two different coaches. And Signetti
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had a much bigger body of work. And by the way,
he had also worked for Nick Saban Chesney does not
have that, so I'm a little skeptical.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Actually, well, they both schools in the Bay area where
you live, John and John Wilner again with us courtesy
is simply Seattle dot com have new coaches to Vita Pritchard,
who's from Tacoma Clover Park. Is that right, is the
new coach at Stanford. And then reports out that Tosh
Lapoy is going to get the call job, which ten
years ago, Tosh Lupoy would have been like kryptonite. Nobody
would have hired him to be a head coach in
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college football. And now that you can pay guys, it's
not a big deal. So who's getting the better higher
in your mind, Tosh Lapoy at Cal or to beat
the Pritchard at Stanford.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah, they are finalizing the deal with Loup boy. You know,
it's interesting, there's the whole thing is so similar. You've
got a GM who's a legend at the schools, Andrew
Luck at Stanford, Ron rivera Cal hiring former players from
the schools. You know, I would say I think Richard
might have a better chance because Stanford has got so
(14:15):
much money that if they just have the willpower to win,
they can win. Cal The challenges are a little bit steeper,
but for both of them, there's a great opportunity in
the ACC, right, I mean, given where Florida State and
Clemson are right now, you look at the ACC, the
top of the a SEC is Virginia Duke and Georgia Tech. Right,
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it's like the revenge of the SAT scores. I think, James,
James Franklin, you know he's got to be salivating it.
Virginia Tech think I can go in there and win
this league.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
John.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
That leads me perfectly to my next question.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm watching the college football playoffs and they're saving two
spots for conferences that have no teams that should be
in the College football Playoffs. Meanwhile, teams like my Miami,
Notre Dame, Oklahoma Texas, all teams that are far better
than any school in those other two conferences, are not
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going to make it because of that. How long do
we have to deal with this nonsense?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Dick? Did you root against Butler and March Madness? No?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I didn't root against Butler much.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Okay, because it's kind of the same thing. You want
to have access for the little guys. Right, So the
funny thing is, right, Duke's got five losses. If they
win the ACC championship, they may not get into the playoff,
and you could have two group of five teams, the
American winner and the Sun Belt winner in the playoff
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and nobody from the ACC, which would be the ultimate humiliation.
But they have to have spot access for a group
of five or else the group of five is going
to sue their pants off.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, upsets and Cinderella runs are a lot more likely
in basketball than they are in football.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
They are.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I totally agree, But they have to have for everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
All right, John, before you go here we go, man,
You have put together one hell of a season, buddy.
I mean, I think a lot of folks are wondering
why the hell you're wasting your time writing about college
football when you should be betting on college football.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Ten and four on the air. You've won five games
in a row.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You got a shot to wrap up the regular season
before the ball games of the playoff. Eleven and four
over fifteen weeks. So Wendelorean is back on the proper
path that he's taken. Names on the way to Valhalla.
Johnny Wilder, who do you like to go eleven to
four on the air?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, it's kind of a tough week. I am gonna
go with Indiana because I just think the Big ten
Gate Championship means a lot more in Indiana. Ohio State
just won the game that mattered most to them, and
now they got their sites set on another national championship Indiana.
I don't know the last time that Indiana one the
Big Ten Championship, right, it's probably pre War. So I
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just think that they are going to play all out
to win that game. And I am not convinced that
Ryan Day is going to do everything it takes to
win the Big Ten Championship. You know that they their
national title or.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Bust nineteen sixty seven, that was the last won the
Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I was negative six.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well good good so.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
And the time before that was the War nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I think Kurt Signetti was like forty eight years
old back in nineteen sixty seven. All Right, So we're
gonna take Indiana plus the four and a half against
Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game, all right, man, John,
great stuff and we will talk on a week.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Pal, thanks a lot, guys, all.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right, hell have a run for him. Ten and four
on the air so far this year. This is why
you listen to this radio show. Never mind Picking the
Locks or whatever the hell that show is on Friday.
This is where you gotta come. You want handicapping advice
right here with John Wilner ten and my god, and
he likes Indiana plus the points and good reasoning too.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
He is exactly right. This game means way more to India.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I have not been this blah about a number one
versus number two college football game. Man, I can't even
remember because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What's funny. I don't think either team would even want
to play the game. I think they would say just
skip it.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I mean this, would you want to show if you've
got to potentially play him in two in three weeks,
four weeks in a national championship game. It's not even
that that's part of it too, But I mean getting
guys hurt before the playoff, absolutely, that's the point of this.
You imagine Mendoza goes down. How about Julian saying or
Bo Jackson or anybody.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
My God.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
All right, we're gonna break. We got a lot more
to get to. Tony castro Cone's gonna join us in
the six pm hour. He is on the call for
UWCLA tomorrow, Husky start Big ten playing hoops. We get
to that coming up on ninety three three KJRFM
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
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Speaker 3 (00:40):
Every single year.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Here he is the Pope of the pack, the big
ten baron.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
He's on a five game win streak, by the way
now after getting you Oregon minus the six and a
half against you, Dob, He's ten and four on the
air this year.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
He's Johnny Wilner and he's with us.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Now.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
How are you, man? I'm good? Thanks? How are you guys?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Pretty good?
Speaker 5 (01:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Bummed out about what happened on Saturday, but not a
surprise at Husky Stadium. I know you picked Oregon to cover,
and I gotta be honest with you, man, I think
Oregon's good. I don't think they're that good, and maybe
college football just isn't that good. But I did not
see I think an elite football team in the Oregon
Ducks on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
How about you?
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No, I think that they have for the most part,
been very good, but not elite this season. Now. I
think some of it has to especially the last few weeks.
They're out missing their top two receivers, so that does
have an impact on the passing game. But they are
not playing like they were playing last November and when
they went into the playoff as the you know, the favorite. Really,
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but I'm not sure that they're in a worse position
because you don't want to be peeking too early. And
I think that it's possible. Dan Landing learned that lesson
the hard way last year, and and so we'll see
if they can, you know, up their game in December.
But they are not nearly as overpowering as they were
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a year ago.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
John Again, Husky fans, including myself, not thrilled with the
play calling from Jed Fish. I mean, the passing game
was miserable, to say the least, particularly on first down,
where they were two of eight with two sacks and
two interceptions every time they threw the ball on first down.
I don't think and Softie's asked Jed the question. It
(02:47):
was a while ago, but he's asking the question, would he,
by the way, at the beginning of the season, right
or in the middle middle of the year, when you've
ever relinquished play calling duties? As his answer was no,
But how about a different question for you? Should he
had Fish be willing to relinquish his play calling?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Dude?
Speaker 4 (03:03):
This especially when a guy, hey, look who's on the market,
Jonathan Smith is out there on the market.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
What do you think I think he should be willing
to consider it? You know, the end of the season,
everybody does a self scout, and I would say that
Jedfish should give it some serious thought. I don't know that.
I think he has to. I think what he's got
to do is recruit better offensive linemen. I think that's
a big problem for them. And it's fine their offensive
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line and their skill players. It's fine against Minnesota and Illinois.
It is not good enough to beat the best teams
in the Big Ten. And I don't care who's calling
the plays. You know, you get at Bill Walla's calling
the plays. If your offensive line is not that good,
there's only so much you're gonna be able to do
against the really good opponents.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, four sacks, six TfL is allowed against the Ducks
on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So what's the situation?
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Can you explain to people the situation with the bulls man,
because you still have all this connection to the old
Pack twelve. I don't know how excited, honestly, guys, Husky
fans are for a ball game, right if you're not
in the college football playoff, then okay, whatever, But what
is the thing to be.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
To know?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Excuse me about this ball schedule as it sits right now.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Well, basically the legacy the twelve legacy PAC twelve teams
are tied to the same bowls that they were when
they were together in the conference, which means, in order,
the Alamo, Las Vegas, Holiday Sun, and LA Bulls, and
then there's a couple of other options below LA. So
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that's the deal. They didn't The only other option would
have been to reconfigure the bowl arrangements for the ACC
and the Big Ten and the Big twelve, and they
just thought it was easier to to keep those teams
tied to the PAC twelves games. This is supposed to
be the last year of it, but if they don't
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change the CFP for next season, if it stays at twelve,
we may have this arrangement one more year. Wow.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
All right, Saftie and I are largely in agreement when
it comes to non playoff bowl games. They're they're pretty worthless,
and they're just like they're all the same. I would
make one exception, though, and I think I hold still
the Holiday Bowl in much higher regard than I hold
all the rest of the non CFP bowl games. And
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the Huskies could get there as it looks like it's
one of the two places. What are the chances do
you think that the Huskies do land at the Holiday Bowl?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
And what needs to happen.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
Less than fifty to fifty Uh maybe thirty percent, forty percent.
I think it's you know, the Huskies are not going
to El Paso, right. The Bulls do not like repeats.
So to me, it's either the Holiday pixither Washington or Arizona.
And if the Holiday Arizona, Washington's gonna end up at
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the La Bowl against the Mountain West Roona. I think
that the Holiday would probably lean toward Arizona. They are hot,
they have nine wins, they are ranked eighteenth in the
New CFP. It's a close. You know, it's an easy flight,
decent drive for Arizona fans for ticket sales, that's my guest.
(06:23):
But I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Yeah, I mean, the Holiday Ball is now on January second,
by the way, and it's played at the at the
San Diego State Aztec Stadium snap Dragon Stadium, So I
don't know. I'm gonna agree with Dick that the Holiday
Ball just the allure of the Holiday Ball, the name
Holiday Bawl means a lot more than the other games.
But I just think the twelve game playoff has just
kind of ruined the bowl season for a lot of
(06:46):
teams out there, and Washington's probably one of them. But hey,
let's talk about some coaching things that came up today.
Kalate Sataki staying at BYU turning down Penn State. He's LDS,
He's Mormon. Is that right, Sataki?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I believe so. Yes, he's perfect py He's perfect for him,
and he's perfect for PYU, And I think that was
the smart move. It would have been a bad deal
for him at Penn State. Some coaches just fit really
well at certain places and nowhere else. And he's perfect
for BYU.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Well where does Penn State go?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Now? Boy? Good, I think they got to start over.
I mean, what they should do is try to go
get Matt Campbell from Iowa State. Right, he has not
left Iowa State. He's been a one in man for years.
The guy's a phenomenal coach. You win eight or nine
games all the time at Iowa State, you're doing something right.
I don't know why they didn't go after him hard
(07:39):
early on, but they, Boy, they are having a hard
time finding a coach, and you wouldn't expect that. It's
Penn State, But that's my guess is that maybe they
try to lure Matt Campbell out of Ames.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
Are you surprised at all?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
The College Football playoff rankings just came out in the
last hour and Old Miss was not negatively effect did
by Lane Kiffin leaving, unlike what we saw with Florida
State and Jordan Travis. So evidently a quarterback's more important
than a head coach as far as rankings go. Were
you surprised that Old Miss wasn't docked with without having
their head coach the rest of the season.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
No, I was. I mean, I was a little surprised
that they moved up, but not that they kind of
held their ground. There's one big difference though, between ole
Miss and Florida State, and that is that the committee
got to see Florida State play without Jordan Travis through
and Florida State did not look good. They don't. They
aren't going to have a data point to judge Ole
(08:38):
Miss without Kiffen, so that could help the rebels. I
think it also might help that Kiffen basically released Charlie
West Junior from his LSU duties to go back to
ole Miss to be the offensive coordinator through the playoffs
right to provide some continuity, and that could also have
impacted the committee's decision.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, I think what the Committee did to Florida State
last year was disgraceful, to be honest with you. I mean,
imagine the NFL. You know what, you guys aren't playing
very well right now. We don't think you'll do well
in the playoffs, so you can't go. Somebody else can
take your spot. I mean, it's just the body of work.
Whatever happened to the body of work. But John Wilder
is with us on the air. You want to weigh in,
by the way, and the Lane Kiffin think. I know
(09:21):
it's an sec deal, but it's the biggest story in
college football with him leaving Old miss Early a playoff
team to go be the head coach at LSU. He's
taken crap from a lot of people. Some folks are
defending him. Where do you fall in the Lane Kiffin story?
Speaker 5 (09:35):
Man, A couple things real quick. One, nobody should be surprised.
He's the worst. He's like the guy in Seinfeld, the bad.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Breaker upper right.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
He is. This was this was it was going to
be ugly the moment he got hired by Old Miss.
The breakup was going to be bad. But the other
thing that has struck me more than anything else is
that is the ESPN constant to interest. Right, You've got
those guys on on game Day, the most influential college
(10:05):
football show there is. They're all saying, oh, Ole Miss
should let him stay and coach him in the playoff
while he's employed by a rival school and can recruit
those players. Yes, and yet, and and the thing is,
who's Lin kIPS agent, Jimmy Sexton, who's Nick Saban's agent,
Jimmy Sexton, kurb Street, Jimmy Second Right, They're all compromised,
(10:26):
and yet they're out there on that platform, and it's
I think it's a problem for college for college football.
But that's my other thought.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
You also mentioned that the academic calendar is a problem
for college football. Yeah, explain that to us and what
needs to change so we don't have coaches leaving CFP
teams before they play in the CFP.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Well, see, that's the thing I don't think he can change.
But the point that a lot of people, you know,
I saw a lot of stuff like Dan Orlowski and
some other guys on there just ripping the college football calendar.
And it's like the reason the college football calendar is
the way to is because a school because they have to.
The players have to enroll at they're new schools in
January when the semester starts, so you have to if
(11:10):
they're going to transfer, they have to do it before
the semester at their new school. That's the problem. They
can't just pick up and go from one college to
another college in the middle of February. The higher education
doesn't allow for that. So unless there's only two options really,
which is you move the entire football calendar up, which
(11:32):
I think they should do. You play the national championship
at the Rose Bowl every year. Then you start what
is effectively free agency and coaching changes, and the kids
can get where they want to go in time to
enroll in January. The other option is you move the
transfer portal till May, but that has been proposed and
(11:53):
was shot down by almost everybody.
Speaker 2 (11:55):
Well, there's a third option, John, and that's let football
players enroll when they want.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
They're not regular students. Why treat it well regular students?
Speaker 5 (12:04):
That's that is a bridge that the university presidents and
I'm not disagreeing with you at all. The university presidents
are not willing to go there yet. Yeah, maybe in
a couple of years, but not right now.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
What do you think of the Beaves getting JaMarcus Shepard?
How do you think he'll do down there?
Speaker 5 (12:21):
I think it depends on who he hires as his coordinators,
and it depends on how much NIL and revenue sharing
the Beavers can muster. I mean, kids will want to
play for him, but they're gonna want their dollars more.
And if they don't have enough ANIL and rev share
to compete with Sandego State and Boise State, I think
(12:42):
he's gonna have a hard time.
Speaker 4 (12:43):
What about the same question for Bob Chesney at UCLA?
Is at an unfixable situation in their current state?
Speaker 5 (12:50):
No, I don't think it is. I'm just not sure
that Bob Chesney is the right guy. I mean, they're
banking on the fact that because because Kirk Signetti wanted
JMU and went in the is doing great, that Bob Chesney,
who won a JMU, can go to UCLA and essentially
be Signetti two point zero. And I don't know that
that's the case. They are two different coaches. And Signetti
(13:11):
had a much bigger body of work. And by the way,
he had also worked for Nick Saban Chesney does not
have that, so I'm a little skeptical.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Actually, well, they both schools in the Bay area where
you live, John and John Wilner again with us courtesy
is simply Seattle dot com have new coaches to Vita Pritchard,
who's from Tacoma Clover Park. Is that right, is the
new coach at Stanford. And then reports out that Tosh
Lapoy is going to get the call job, which ten
years ago, Tosh Lupoy would have been like kryptonite. Nobody
would have hired him to be a head coach in
(13:42):
college football. And now that you can pay guys, it's
not a big deal. So who's getting the better higher
in your mind, Tosh Lapoy at Cal or to beat
the Pritchard at Stanford.
Speaker 5 (13:52):
Yeah, they are finalizing the deal with Loup boy. You know,
it's interesting, there's the whole thing is so similar. You've
got a GM who's a legend at the schools, Andrew
Luck at Stanford, Ron rivera Cal hiring former players from
the schools. You know, I would say I think Richard
might have a better chance because Stanford has got so
(14:15):
much money that if they just have the willpower to win,
they can win. Cal The challenges are a little bit steeper,
but for both of them, there's a great opportunity in
the ACC, right, I mean, given where Florida State and
Clemson are right now, you look at the ACC, the
top of the a SEC is Virginia Duke and Georgia Tech. Right,
(14:35):
it's like the revenge of the SAT scores. I think, James,
James Franklin, you know he's got to be salivating it.
Virginia Tech think I can go in there and win
this league.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
John.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
That leads me perfectly to my next question.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
I'm watching the college football playoffs and they're saving two
spots for conferences that have no teams that should be
in the College football Playoffs. Meanwhile, teams like my Miami,
Notre Dame, Oklahoma Texas, all teams that are far better
than any school in those other two conferences, are not
(15:08):
going to make it because of that. How long do
we have to deal with this nonsense?
Speaker 5 (15:13):
Dick? Did you root against Butler and March Madness? No?
Speaker 3 (15:16):
I didn't root against Butler much.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Okay, because it's kind of the same thing. You want
to have access for the little guys. Right, So the
funny thing is, right, Duke's got five losses. If they
win the ACC championship, they may not get into the playoff,
and you could have two group of five teams, the
American winner and the Sun Belt winner in the playoff
(15:38):
and nobody from the ACC, which would be the ultimate humiliation.
But they have to have spot access for a group
of five or else the group of five is going
to sue their pants off.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, upsets and Cinderella runs are a lot more likely
in basketball than they are in football.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
They are.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Oh, I totally agree.
Speaker 5 (15:57):
I totally agree, But they have to have for everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
All right, John, before you go here we go, man,
You have put together one hell of a season, buddy.
I mean, I think a lot of folks are wondering
why the hell you're wasting your time writing about college
football when you should be betting on college football.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Ten and four on the air. You've won five games
in a row.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
You got a shot to wrap up the regular season
before the ball games of the playoff. Eleven and four
over fifteen weeks. So Wendelorean is back on the proper
path that he's taken. Names on the way to Valhalla.
Johnny Wilder, who do you like to go eleven to
four on the air?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, it's kind of a tough week. I am gonna
go with Indiana because I just think the Big ten
Gate Championship means a lot more in Indiana. Ohio State
just won the game that mattered most to them, and
now they got their sites set on another national championship Indiana.
I don't know the last time that Indiana one the
Big Ten Championship, right, it's probably pre War. So I
(17:04):
just think that they are going to play all out
to win that game. And I am not convinced that
Ryan Day is going to do everything it takes to
win the Big Ten Championship. You know that they their
national title or.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Bust nineteen sixty seven, that was the last won the
Big Ten.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
I was negative six.
Speaker 5 (17:22):
Well good good so.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
And the time before that was the War nineteen forty five.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, I think Kurt Signetti was like forty eight years
old back in nineteen sixty seven. All Right, So we're
gonna take Indiana plus the four and a half against
Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship game, all right, man, John,
great stuff and we will talk on a week.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
Buddy, appreciate it.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
Pal, thanks a lot, guys, all.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Right, hell have a run for him. Ten and four
on the air so far this year. This is why
you listen to this radio show. Never mind Picking the
Locks or whatever the hell that show is on Friday.
This is where you gotta come. You want handicapping advice
right here with John Wilner ten and my god, and
he likes Indiana plus the points and good reasoning too.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
He is exactly right. This game means way more to India.
Speaker 4 (18:07):
I have not been this blah about a number one
versus number two college football game. Man, I can't even
remember because it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
What's funny. I don't think either team would even want
to play the game. I think they would say just
skip it.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
I mean this, would you want to show if you've
got to potentially play him in two in three weeks,
four weeks in a national championship game. It's not even
that that's part of it too, But I mean getting
guys hurt before the playoff, absolutely, that's the point of this.
You imagine Mendoza goes down. How about Julian saying or
Bo Jackson or anybody.
Speaker 5 (18:41):
My God.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
All right, we're gonna break. We got a lot more
to get to. Tony castro Cone's gonna join us in
the six pm hour. He is on the call for
UWCLA tomorrow, Husky start Big ten playing hoops. We get
to that coming up on ninety three three KJRFM
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