October 28, 2025 • 17 mins
Jon Wilner of The San Jose Mercury News and Wilner Hotline joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about Jedd Fisch’s status with many college job openings, UW’s win over Illinois, the Dawgs not being ranked, Wisconsin after the bye, and the Ducks.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
We'll get the Windlarean to give us his pick of
the week.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I took Ucla and the Points a week ago versus
Indiana and they just got slaughtered. The bruin bus came
to a screeching frickin' halt against Indiana this weekend in Bloomington,
so we'll get the wind Lorian back on the right path.
Overall though, having a pretty damn good year for us
here on the show, John Wilner from the San Jose
Mercury News, Johnny, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm good. Thanks, Hey, you guys good.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We're talking.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And last segment to Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey about Jedfish.
And here's a guy who obviously there's a lot of
jobs open around college football, the Florida job, Penn State.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
LSU, UCLA.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Why don't we just first of all before we talk
about extensions and things like that. Do you think that
around the country Jedfish is doing enough at you dub
right now to be more attractive on a national scale,
less attractive on a national scale, or the same as
maybe what he was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think he is probably the same.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
The fact that they didn't the two highest profile games
of their season, Ohio State and Michigan, they got beat badly,
and I think that that has kept him from kind
of jumping to the top tier of candidates. He is
not on the top tier, right, we could go through
that list. He's like for both well, certainly for Florida.
You know, he's second tier, know what's going on with UCLA.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But you know, I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Think he's nearly as hot as he would be if
they had won one of those games.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Put it that way, why would Jed want to go
to UCLA if they were interested in him.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I have personal reasons. I you know, I think his
family really likes it down there. If you're looking at
football perspective, there is no reason.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
There's none, you know.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Now, the UCLA is committing, They are committing resources. They
are you know, they have gotten permission from the University
of California regents to offer a big time salary eight
ten twelve million a year. Right, they are frustrated with
how things are going, and they are committed, and they've
got a chancellor who seems committed. If Washington's still a
better job, right, it just it just is. And you know, Jet,
(02:52):
whether Jed views you know, the personal things as a
real pull or not, I don't know. And I'm not
even committing. He really wants to go. I think that
he and his agent are being smart. They're trying to
get as much leverage as they can, because he can
use that leverage if they're nine and three or ten
two to get an extension from Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, he and they want his name out there. They
want his name out there as much as humanly possible.
I mean, you tell me, John, there was a story
a couple weeks ago that I don't know who it was,
somebody from some network that said that Jedfish's Jedfish was
a name of note I guess is what the story
was for the UCLA job. So why would his Why
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would Doug Hendrickson, whose Jed's agent also represents Marshawn Lynch
and other people like that Gary Payton's agent back in
the day, So local guy, why would Doug Hendrickson want
Jedfish's name associated with UCLA?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And where does that start? You think at UCLA?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Well, you know who Hendrickson works for, right, Washington works
for Wasserman, right the Washerman Group, and the CEO of
the Washerman Group, Casey Washerman, is UCLA's biggest donor and
is in leading the search for UCLA's next coach. So
it behooves Wasserman the company for to they want to
(04:12):
make a market for Fish and for UCLA. So Hendrickson
leaking Jed's name and I don't know if he did it,
but I'm assuming he did. For the UCLA job, that
just helps all three parties.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It helps Jed, it helps Wasserman, it helps the Bruins.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well do you think Joel let me ask you this
because there are some folks out there on social media
that have totally shot down the Jedfish to UCLA thing.
Would you do the same? Is the Jedfish to UCLA
thing for you? Is it even a story? Is it
even something that you would remotely think could happen.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I would never say never, but I have never thought
that it was more likely than not. What I think
is happening and thought all along is they're going to
use whatever they can use to put Fish in the
best position for other jobs or to get a nice
fat extension from the Husky.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
That made me think, John, can you think of a
time when a coach that was not being fired, a
coach that was in demand, like Jedfish, actually left a
better situation to go to a worse football situation.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just can't think of any.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I would have to give that some thought.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
You know, there are there is a certain segment that
thinks UCLA can be a fantastic job right, incredible campus,
access to talent, they do have a rich history, but
there's some huge shortcomings to that job as well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I've always viewed it like this.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
For seventy percent of the potential candidates UCLA is a
bad job for thirty percent. It's a great job if
you want to live at southern California, if you want
everything UCLA's got to offer.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Jedl likes sale in California. His wife does. I don't.
I still don't think that he is going to end
up at UCLA at all.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, but you'd never say never.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Okay, Well, let me let me get one more on that,
because there's a We had a conversation last segment with
Greg and Mario on the Husky Show John about extending him,
and Greg's take is that, Look, I mean there's a
lot of jobs open.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He keeps winning, his name's going to get bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
He goes nine and two and then beats Oregon, he's
ten and two, and you damn will be sure that
his name is going to be more appealing then in
a month from now than it is now. And Greg
was just asking, is it time for you, Dub to
extend him now? I will tell you that November of
twenty two, before the Apple Cup eleven games into Kaelin
de Bor's tenure at U, DUB, Jen Cohen gave Klen
(06:40):
a new contract. I wish they would have given him
another new contract the next year, but that never happened,
obviously because he went to Alabama. So there's precedent for
doing this even earlier in a guy's career. At U
dub they did it Todbor after eleven games. Should they
do it with Jed Fish after a year and a
half right now?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think that they should start having some conversations. And
I would not be surprised if Pat Chun's already had
some of those conversations with Hendrickson, you know, and the
university obviously, because he'd have to get the president's sign
off on that. It's an ongoing process, and Chun knows
the landscape and he understands the leverage games and all
(07:23):
that Washington will be proactive.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I would think I would.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Be I would not be surprised at all if there
are already conversations happening. Whether there's an actual hard and
fast offer on his desk before the Oregon game, that
I don't know, but there also could very well be
conversations like we're gonna do this at the end of
the season.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Yeah, well, we're coming off arguably his best performance as
a head coach at the University of Washington, tell me
what you thought when you watch that game against Illinois.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, I thought they looked good. I did.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I don't want to read too much into it. Illinois
did lose at the end of fifty three points. I
thought it was Washington's it was. I thought it was
Washington's most complete game given the competition. I like, you know,
it was on offense, it was the Huskies, right, Boston
had he had to have at least ten receptions, right, yes,
(08:15):
and Coleman I don't know total yardage, but he was
getting five six yards of carry and Williams looked comfortable
in and out of the pocket. That was Washington at
its best offensively, and they did well defensively too. So
but the thing is, can they do that against an
Oregon They couldn't do it against Michigan State or Michigan
(08:37):
or Ohio State. Can they do it against the Ducks?
That's where it all comes down to the whole season
is the Oregon game?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, they should be nine to two for sure, Perdue, UCLA, Wisconsin,
all the all three games, I mean, any one of
them would be a huge disappointment to lose for you,
dub no question yet.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And then they so they're playing maybe for a playoff
spot against the Ducks.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, let's talk about why they're not ranked, man. I mean,
we've talked about this before. I'm not as worked up
about it as other people are. I think all that
takes care of itself at the end of the year.
You dubbed by the way, twenty twenty two was six
and two, and they were unranked, and they finished eighth
in the country. So you can move up quickly in
the poll. But you know my issue with the EIGHTP pole.
(09:17):
We've had this conversation before on the air, but why
isn't you dub at six and two a ranked football
team right now?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know. I mean, I've got them in my ballot.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I think I have them twentieth or twenty first something
right there. You can if you look at Washington and
it's not a great resume, right They've lost the two
highest profile games, they played decisively, they didn't really get
a quality non conference win, and they played a lot
of low level Big ten teams. But if you compare
(09:47):
Washington at six and two to teams that are in
the ACC Big East, on a big Big twelve and
SEC that are six and two, they stack up pretty favorably,
and that's how I came to the conclusion that they
should be on my ballot.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I don't know why they are not ranked and.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Now noted Husky hater John, you people remember that well
and Notre Dame as well.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I mean Notre Dame's resume looks almost exactly like Washington
in their twelfth I mean, and it's only it's only
because they started fifth in America.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So John Wilner joining us.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
John, when the CFP rankings come out this year, how
close have they mirrored the AP in the past, and
do you think they'll mirror the.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
AP less this year?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Because I don't think there's ever been a year where
the AP pole has been ripped as bad by the
media as it has been this year.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Yeah, I don't know if it's been as ripped as much,
but I don't think that the AP pole is much
different in its construction than it is usually. And last
year the CFP First the first rankings were very similar.
I don't have all the data in front of me,
but I did go through it a few weeks ago,
and a lot of teams were within one or two
(10:58):
spots of their AP ranking in the CFP Top twenty five.
It just it has an influence on that room, at
least in.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The first iteration of their rankings.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Right, they evolved week to week in a different manner
than the AP pole does, but the first rankings are
going to look pretty similar.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, John, the Huskies have a bye before they take
on Wisconsin, and I guess, you know, for us in
our ILK, you know, we're still kind of pre programmed
to think of Wisconsin as a pretty decent football program, right,
you know, not elite, but pretty decent.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Their offense is dog crap.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
They have not scored more than fourteen points since their
second game of the year, when they played Middle Tennessee
and hung forty two. They've only scored more than fourteen
points twice, and the second time was against Miami of Ohio.
This is a putrid offense that UB is going to see.
And a week and a half in Madison, are you
(12:01):
surprised that Luke Fickel is still there? Number one and
number two? Is there any reason to think that you
DUB will not go to Madison and win that game decisively?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I mean, they could get it, you know, kind of
bogged down. I don't know what the weather will be
but they it could get bogged down. I mean Oregon
struggled with them, right, I mean that was twenty one seven,
you know, and I had thought Oregon would roll. But
Wisconsin's defense played very well. You know, if you're going there,
you never know. You cannot assume the Huskies are gonna
mash them. I am a little surprised Fickle still there.
(12:34):
But they're different from say Penn State LSU. And one
of the ways they're different is the nil game there
has been substandard and their athletic director, you know, after
they got they got shut out back to back weeks, right,
and their athletic director issued a statement of supporting Fickle
and basically saying we need more support.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
So I think that it's easier for them to.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
To, you know, justify keeping him through the season because
of that element. Whereas at Penn State or LSU or Florida,
you know, they've got all the resources, the coaches just
aren't coaching the talent well enough.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They've scored seven point three games. Yeah, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But I'll tell you what. Their defense was good in Eugene,
it was really good.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, let's talk about the Ducks. I mean how how
should Duck fans feel about that game? No big deal
to look ahead game. We had our guy Hugh Millen
come on and say, hey, Dante More just doesn't look
like the same Dante More he saw a month and
a half ago.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
No, he doesn't. They they are in a lull. And
you know that's not necessarily the worst thing in the world.
You don't want to be peaking in the middle of October.
I think that kind of happened to Oregon last year,
right So, uh, the Indiana You know, I was at
the Indiana game. They got punched in the face, and
they did not look very sharp on offense against Wisconsin either.
(13:58):
If I'm an Oregon fan, I'm a little concerned. You know,
I'm not in panic mode. They've got a pretty manageable schedule.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
They do. They got to play sc and then they
get the Huskies. I'm not panicking.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I certainly think you got a great chance at the playoff,
but I'm a little.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I'm a little bit concerned, for sure. There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well you mentioned it right there about the playoff. I mean,
let's let's say you dub gets the nine and two
and all of a sudden. That Oregon game is significant, right,
I mean, U Dub's got a shot if they do
that and they win that game, and they went out
and they finished ten and two, what kind of odds
do you give you dub on making the college football playoff?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Is Notre Dame at ten and two? Because if Notre Dame,
it's everything changes. If Notre Dame is a huge piece
to all of this. If they've went out and they're
ten and two, they're gonna get in.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes, then all of a sudden they were all.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Of a sudden, it is six spots at large spots
instead of seven.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
If Notre Dame wins out, if Washington wins out, Notre
Dame wins out, I would give the Huskies like a
twenty five thirty chance to get in.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Okay, they will have one ranked win Oregon.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
No, you know, the non conference schedule will hurt them,
but they'll be in the mix against number four from
the SEC, possibly number two from the Big twelve.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
But really, Washington Vans should be rooting for Notre Dame
to lose.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
All right, let's get to it. Last week, you've veered
off the path. But it's Okay, yes, you know what
it's like to have to pick yourself up by the
bootstraps and dust yourself off and get back in the
wind Calumn. The Windelarean walked the wrong path a week ago.
Let's see if we can get the winde Laian back
on the proper route to winning. Hammered, hammered. Taking Ucla
(15:45):
and the points hammered by.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
The trend was not my friend. No.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Ucla trained exploded and just flew off a cliff against
the Hoosiers last week.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So five and four on the air so far. Who
do you like this week?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
John?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'll take the corn Huskers.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Uh. They I think they're getting six seven from USC
somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They're given they are getting six and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
There we go. I'll take the corner Huskers at home.
I don't trust USC on the road. I don't trust
Lincoln Riley with fourth quarter leads.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And I think Nebraska is pretty good. I'll take those.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
But that, by the way, that's an important game for
Washington because both USC and Nebraska have two losses.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
They're in that pool.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Of two loss teams in the Big Ten, with Washington
fighting for a playoff bid.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I think us.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I think Washington fans want USC to win that game, actually,
because Nebraska's got an easier path to ten and two
right than USC does.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, USC still they got UCLA, no, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
All right, Man, Washington wants Washington wants all the two
loss Big ten teams to be losing.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, love it all right, John, great stuff, You're the
good luck and we're talking a week so Bud, thanks guys,
all right, John Wilner with us on the radio show.
Brian Schmitzer will join us, Larry Stone. Larry Stone actually
saw Babe Ruth play, so he can settle the Otani
versus Babe Ruth debate at six pm tonight. I think
we got to spend more time on this jetfish question
(17:18):
because the more games he wins, and it's not just
the fact that he's winning games. He's six and two,
still looking for, you know, some bigger wins obviously, but
there's a lot of job openings in college football.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's not just him, it's the amount of opportunities that
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
We'll get the Windlarean to give us his pick of
the week.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I took Ucla and the Points a week ago versus
Indiana and they just got slaughtered. The bruin bus came
to a screeching frickin' halt against Indiana this weekend in Bloomington,
so we'll get the wind Lorian back on the right path.
Overall though, having a pretty damn good year for us
here on the show, John Wilner from the San Jose
Mercury News, Johnny, how are you man?
Speaker 4 (00:57):
I'm good. Thanks, Hey, you guys good.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
We're talking.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
And last segment to Greg Lewis and Mario Bailey about Jedfish.
And here's a guy who obviously there's a lot of
jobs open around college football, the Florida job, Penn State.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
LSU, UCLA.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Why don't we just first of all before we talk
about extensions and things like that. Do you think that
around the country Jedfish is doing enough at you dub
right now to be more attractive on a national scale,
less attractive on a national scale, or the same as
maybe what he was a couple of years ago.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
I think he is probably the same.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
The fact that they didn't the two highest profile games
of their season, Ohio State and Michigan, they got beat badly,
and I think that that has kept him from kind
of jumping to the top tier of candidates. He is
not on the top tier, right, we could go through
that list. He's like for both well, certainly for Florida.
You know, he's second tier, know what's going on with UCLA.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
But you know, I don't.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Think he's nearly as hot as he would be if
they had won one of those games.
Speaker 6 (02:08):
Put it that way, why would Jed want to go
to UCLA if they were interested in him.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I have personal reasons. I you know, I think his
family really likes it down there. If you're looking at
football perspective, there is no reason.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
There's none, you know.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
Now, the UCLA is committing, They are committing resources. They
are you know, they have gotten permission from the University
of California regents to offer a big time salary eight
ten twelve million a year. Right, they are frustrated with
how things are going, and they are committed, and they've
got a chancellor who seems committed. If Washington's still a
better job, right, it just it just is. And you know, Jet,
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whether Jed views you know, the personal things as a
real pull or not, I don't know. And I'm not
even committing. He really wants to go. I think that
he and his agent are being smart. They're trying to
get as much leverage as they can, because he can
use that leverage if they're nine and three or ten
two to get an extension from Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, he and they want his name out there. They
want his name out there as much as humanly possible.
I mean, you tell me, John, there was a story
a couple weeks ago that I don't know who it was,
somebody from some network that said that Jedfish's Jedfish was
a name of note I guess is what the story
was for the UCLA job. So why would his Why
(03:31):
would Doug Hendrickson, whose Jed's agent also represents Marshawn Lynch
and other people like that Gary Payton's agent back in
the day, So local guy, why would Doug Hendrickson want
Jedfish's name associated with UCLA?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
And where does that start? You think at UCLA?
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Well, you know who Hendrickson works for, right, Washington works
for Wasserman, right the Washerman Group, and the CEO of
the Washerman Group, Casey Washerman, is UCLA's biggest donor and
is in leading the search for UCLA's next coach. So
it behooves Wasserman the company for to they want to
(04:12):
make a market for Fish and for UCLA. So Hendrickson
leaking Jed's name and I don't know if he did it,
but I'm assuming he did. For the UCLA job, that
just helps all three parties.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It helps Jed, it helps Wasserman, it helps the Bruins.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well do you think Joel let me ask you this
because there are some folks out there on social media
that have totally shot down the Jedfish to UCLA thing.
Would you do the same? Is the Jedfish to UCLA
thing for you? Is it even a story? Is it
even something that you would remotely think could happen.
Speaker 5 (04:45):
I would never say never, but I have never thought
that it was more likely than not. What I think
is happening and thought all along is they're going to
use whatever they can use to put Fish in the
best position for other jobs or to get a nice
fat extension from the Husky.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
That made me think, John, can you think of a
time when a coach that was not being fired, a
coach that was in demand, like Jedfish, actually left a
better situation to go to a worse football situation.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I just can't think of any.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
I would have to give that some thought.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
You know, there are there is a certain segment that
thinks UCLA can be a fantastic job right, incredible campus,
access to talent, they do have a rich history, but
there's some huge shortcomings to that job as well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
I've always viewed it like this.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
For seventy percent of the potential candidates UCLA is a
bad job for thirty percent. It's a great job if
you want to live at southern California, if you want
everything UCLA's got to offer.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Jedl likes sale in California. His wife does. I don't.
I still don't think that he is going to end
up at UCLA at all.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, but you'd never say never.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Okay, Well, let me let me get one more on that,
because there's a We had a conversation last segment with
Greg and Mario on the Husky Show John about extending him,
and Greg's take is that, Look, I mean there's a
lot of jobs open.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
He keeps winning, his name's going to get bigger and bigger.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
He goes nine and two and then beats Oregon, he's
ten and two, and you damn will be sure that
his name is going to be more appealing then in
a month from now than it is now. And Greg
was just asking, is it time for you, Dub to
extend him now? I will tell you that November of
twenty two, before the Apple Cup eleven games into Kaelin
de Bor's tenure at U, DUB, Jen Cohen gave Klen
(06:40):
a new contract. I wish they would have given him
another new contract the next year, but that never happened,
obviously because he went to Alabama. So there's precedent for
doing this even earlier in a guy's career. At U
dub they did it Todbor after eleven games. Should they
do it with Jed Fish after a year and a
half right now?
Speaker 5 (07:01):
I think that they should start having some conversations. And
I would not be surprised if Pat Chun's already had
some of those conversations with Hendrickson, you know, and the
university obviously, because he'd have to get the president's sign
off on that. It's an ongoing process, and Chun knows
the landscape and he understands the leverage games and all
(07:23):
that Washington will be proactive.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I would think I would.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
Be I would not be surprised at all if there
are already conversations happening. Whether there's an actual hard and
fast offer on his desk before the Oregon game, that
I don't know, but there also could very well be
conversations like we're gonna do this at the end of
the season.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Yeah, well, we're coming off arguably his best performance as
a head coach at the University of Washington, tell me
what you thought when you watch that game against Illinois.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
Yeah, I thought they looked good. I did.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
I don't want to read too much into it. Illinois
did lose at the end of fifty three points. I
thought it was Washington's it was. I thought it was
Washington's most complete game given the competition. I like, you know,
it was on offense, it was the Huskies, right, Boston
had he had to have at least ten receptions, right, yes,
(08:15):
and Coleman I don't know total yardage, but he was
getting five six yards of carry and Williams looked comfortable
in and out of the pocket. That was Washington at
its best offensively, and they did well defensively too. So
but the thing is, can they do that against an
Oregon They couldn't do it against Michigan State or Michigan
(08:37):
or Ohio State. Can they do it against the Ducks?
That's where it all comes down to the whole season
is the Oregon game?
Speaker 3 (08:43):
Yeah, they should be nine to two for sure, Perdue, UCLA, Wisconsin,
all the all three games, I mean, any one of
them would be a huge disappointment to lose for you,
dub no question yet.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
And then they so they're playing maybe for a playoff
spot against the Ducks.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Well, let's talk about why they're not ranked, man. I mean,
we've talked about this before. I'm not as worked up
about it as other people are. I think all that
takes care of itself at the end of the year.
You dubbed by the way, twenty twenty two was six
and two, and they were unranked, and they finished eighth
in the country. So you can move up quickly in
the poll. But you know my issue with the EIGHTP pole.
(09:17):
We've had this conversation before on the air, but why
isn't you dub at six and two a ranked football
team right now?
Speaker 4 (09:23):
I don't know. I mean, I've got them in my ballot.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
I think I have them twentieth or twenty first something
right there. You can if you look at Washington and
it's not a great resume, right They've lost the two
highest profile games, they played decisively, they didn't really get
a quality non conference win, and they played a lot
of low level Big ten teams. But if you compare
(09:47):
Washington at six and two to teams that are in
the ACC Big East, on a big Big twelve and
SEC that are six and two, they stack up pretty favorably,
and that's how I came to the conclusion that they
should be on my ballot.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
I don't know why they are not ranked and.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Now noted Husky hater John, you people remember that well
and Notre Dame as well.
Speaker 6 (10:12):
I mean Notre Dame's resume looks almost exactly like Washington
in their twelfth I mean, and it's only it's only
because they started fifth in America.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
So John Wilner joining us.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
John, when the CFP rankings come out this year, how
close have they mirrored the AP in the past, and
do you think they'll mirror the.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
AP less this year?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
Because I don't think there's ever been a year where
the AP pole has been ripped as bad by the
media as it has been this year.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Yeah, I don't know if it's been as ripped as much,
but I don't think that the AP pole is much
different in its construction than it is usually. And last
year the CFP First the first rankings were very similar.
I don't have all the data in front of me,
but I did go through it a few weeks ago,
and a lot of teams were within one or two
(10:58):
spots of their AP ranking in the CFP Top twenty five.
It just it has an influence on that room, at
least in.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
The first iteration of their rankings.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
Right, they evolved week to week in a different manner
than the AP pole does, but the first rankings are
going to look pretty similar.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Yeah, John, the Huskies have a bye before they take
on Wisconsin, and I guess, you know, for us in
our ILK, you know, we're still kind of pre programmed
to think of Wisconsin as a pretty decent football program, right,
you know, not elite, but pretty decent.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Their offense is dog crap.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
They have not scored more than fourteen points since their
second game of the year, when they played Middle Tennessee
and hung forty two. They've only scored more than fourteen
points twice, and the second time was against Miami of Ohio.
This is a putrid offense that UB is going to see.
And a week and a half in Madison, are you
(12:01):
surprised that Luke Fickel is still there? Number one and
number two? Is there any reason to think that you
DUB will not go to Madison and win that game decisively?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I mean, they could get it, you know, kind of
bogged down. I don't know what the weather will be
but they it could get bogged down. I mean Oregon
struggled with them, right, I mean that was twenty one seven,
you know, and I had thought Oregon would roll. But
Wisconsin's defense played very well. You know, if you're going there,
you never know. You cannot assume the Huskies are gonna
mash them. I am a little surprised Fickle still there.
(12:34):
But they're different from say Penn State LSU. And one
of the ways they're different is the nil game there
has been substandard and their athletic director, you know, after
they got they got shut out back to back weeks, right,
and their athletic director issued a statement of supporting Fickle
and basically saying we need more support.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
So I think that it's easier for them to.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
To, you know, justify keeping him through the season because
of that element. Whereas at Penn State or LSU or Florida,
you know, they've got all the resources, the coaches just
aren't coaching the talent well enough.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
They've scored seven point three games. Yeah, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
But I'll tell you what. Their defense was good in Eugene,
it was really good.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
Well, let's talk about the Ducks. I mean how how
should Duck fans feel about that game? No big deal
to look ahead game. We had our guy Hugh Millen
come on and say, hey, Dante More just doesn't look
like the same Dante More he saw a month and
a half ago.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
No, he doesn't. They they are in a lull. And
you know that's not necessarily the worst thing in the world.
You don't want to be peaking in the middle of October.
I think that kind of happened to Oregon last year,
right So, uh, the Indiana You know, I was at
the Indiana game. They got punched in the face, and
they did not look very sharp on offense against Wisconsin either.
(13:58):
If I'm an Oregon fan, I'm a little concerned. You know,
I'm not in panic mode. They've got a pretty manageable schedule.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
They do. They got to play sc and then they
get the Huskies. I'm not panicking.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
I certainly think you got a great chance at the playoff,
but I'm a little.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
I'm a little bit concerned, for sure. There's no doubt
about that.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well you mentioned it right there about the playoff. I mean,
let's let's say you dub gets the nine and two
and all of a sudden. That Oregon game is significant, right,
I mean, U Dub's got a shot if they do
that and they win that game, and they went out
and they finished ten and two, what kind of odds
do you give you dub on making the college football playoff?
Speaker 6 (14:36):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (14:36):
Is Notre Dame at ten and two? Because if Notre Dame,
it's everything changes. If Notre Dame is a huge piece
to all of this. If they've went out and they're
ten and two, they're gonna get in.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yes, then all of a sudden they were all.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Of a sudden, it is six spots at large spots
instead of seven.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
That's a big deal.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
If Notre Dame wins out, if Washington wins out, Notre
Dame wins out, I would give the Huskies like a
twenty five thirty chance to get in.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Okay, they will have one ranked win Oregon.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
No, you know, the non conference schedule will hurt them,
but they'll be in the mix against number four from
the SEC, possibly number two from the Big twelve.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
But really, Washington Vans should be rooting for Notre Dame
to lose.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
All right, let's get to it. Last week, you've veered
off the path. But it's Okay, yes, you know what
it's like to have to pick yourself up by the
bootstraps and dust yourself off and get back in the
wind Calumn. The Windelarean walked the wrong path a week ago.
Let's see if we can get the winde Laian back
on the proper route to winning. Hammered, hammered. Taking Ucla
(15:45):
and the points hammered by.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
The trend was not my friend. No.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Ucla trained exploded and just flew off a cliff against
the Hoosiers last week.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
So five and four on the air so far. Who
do you like this week?
Speaker 5 (15:59):
John?
Speaker 4 (16:01):
I'll take the corn Huskers.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
Uh. They I think they're getting six seven from USC
somewhere around there.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
They're given they are getting six and a half.
Speaker 4 (16:11):
There we go. I'll take the corner Huskers at home.
I don't trust USC on the road. I don't trust
Lincoln Riley with fourth quarter leads.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (16:19):
And I think Nebraska is pretty good. I'll take those.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
But that, by the way, that's an important game for
Washington because both USC and Nebraska have two losses.
Speaker 4 (16:28):
They're in that pool.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Of two loss teams in the Big Ten, with Washington
fighting for a playoff bid.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I think us.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
I think Washington fans want USC to win that game, actually,
because Nebraska's got an easier path to ten and two
right than USC does.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Yeah, USC still they got UCLA, no, no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
All right, Man, Washington wants Washington wants all the two
loss Big ten teams to be losing.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Yeah, love it all right, John, great stuff, You're the
good luck and we're talking a week so Bud, thanks guys,
all right, John Wilner with us on the radio show.
Brian Schmitzer will join us, Larry Stone. Larry Stone actually
saw Babe Ruth play, so he can settle the Otani
versus Babe Ruth debate at six pm tonight. I think
we got to spend more time on this jetfish question
(17:18):
because the more games he wins, and it's not just
the fact that he's winning games. He's six and two,
still looking for, you know, some bigger wins obviously, but
there's a lot of job openings in college football.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
It's not just him, it's the amount of opportunities that
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