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May 20, 2024 13 mins
Kurtis Seabold from Sports Radio 810 WHB in Kansas City joins Dave Softy Mahler and Hugh Millen to talk about Harrison Butker’s recent speech that has gone viral, talking about women’s roles in society, the reaction in K.C., and how the Chiefs will respond.
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Live from the R and R FoundationSpecialist Broadcast Studio. Now back to Sofie
and Dick done your Home for theHuskies and the Kraken Sports Radio ninety three
point three kJ R FM. Allright, joining us right now with the
radio show Safie and Dick with JacksonDick at Hu milling in for Dick Vane,

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one half of the famous afternoon showon eight ten WHB in Kansas City.
Hanging out with Saren Petro every singleday. God bless this man.
Our friend Curtis Sebold is with usfrom k C. Curtis, how are
you pell? Fantastic twenty five yearsnow. I've worked with Surrand, but
I always object to I'm not theother half. It's his name's over the

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door. I like to be.I'm the guy just off to the side.
Yeah, on my niche being justoff to the left. Yeah,
good for you. Something goes wrong, you can blame him. It's a
hell of an idea, a greatapproach. But let's just first of all,
because Curtis Hugh played, you know, twelve teen years in the NFL,
gave us a perspective on how hethinks this may play in the NFL.
In locker rooms, especially in KansasCity. But give us just kind

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of, first of all, anover a overall, excuse me, thirty
five thousand feet view on how KansasCity, how the media, the fans,
how everyone's responded to the Harrison Buckersituation, Well what happened. We
really didn't talk about it on ourshow only because it didn't feel at the

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time like a sports story. Imean, he wasn't acting in any official
capacity. He was there at BenedictineCollege because he plays for the Chiefs,
but he wasn't there as a representativeof the Chiefs. And I didn't really
have much to say that would besports related. And I try to separate
my personal opinions from my sports opinionswhen I'm on the air, and that

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seemed like something that I really couldn'tbe done there. So much of the
response was on Twitter and so,and I will tell you that most of
it was negative in that regard.I did a poll. I kind of
asked people what they thought, andI said, I don't want to know.
Any comments were what do you thinkof what he said? And the

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four choices I use were strongly agree, somewhat agree, somewhat disagree and strongly
disagree, and forty eight percent ina four way race said strongly disagree.
Eighteen more percent said somewhat disagree.So the responses around here were primarily negative.
I will say that my followers areskewed a little towards the side that

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would dislike what he said. Soremember those numbers are a little off.
But most of the people around townwho heard it didn't like what he said,
although a majority of them, eventhose who didn't like it, thought
he was okay to say what hesaid because of the position he was in
that day. Was there any particulartopic that seemed to draw the most criticism?

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I mean, he he had alot of people in his sites,
including the leadership of the Catholic Church. I might add, yeah, was
there any one kind of SoundBite thatwas really hitting people hard? The one
that overarching, because it's it's morethan half the world's population is the comments
about women and that there but theirhighest value would be to be a mother

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and a housewife. And he talkedabout you know, you've been told the
most I can't remember the term thathe used, the most pernicious lie or
whatever it was. I think thatwas the one that I think lit most
people up. The idea that awoman should hold no higher aspirations than to

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be a wife and mother and housekeeper. That I think was easily the most
But did he say bonded to comment, Yeah, yes, he said.
He said that a lot of womenout there are are are you thinking about
your promotions and your careers? ButI think even a lot of you,
and I'm paraphrasing to some to somewhat, he said, I'm sure most of

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you out there are are really themost excited about the kind of wife and
mother you're going to be along thatregard, and he opened his comments by
saying, I want to speak particularlyto you women, because you're the ones
who have been told told those yourworst lie. But you just told you
just said now, and that's that'sI think the why the response was that

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strong from the women, Yeah,no, And I hate to you know,
I just I think there's an importantpoint. I think there's a difference
between him him saying I suspect someof you are most excited about your marriage,
uh and and the children you willbring into the world. There's a
difference between saying that and that's whatyou should be most excited about. Is
there not a difference there that's that'sthat's an important thing. Sure, I

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I think so. But but hedidn't say that his wife. He brought
up the situation was wife that hiswife said she realized her true calling or
true calling became when she became awife and mother. That was at least
the very least taken by women assaying that they should aspire to the greatest
thing you can aspire to as awoman is to be a wife and a

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mother. Well, I think Ithink we're seeing in just this little conversation,
this is a small little snapshot,Curtis of the issues when you go
down this road and you rely onsociety to understand everything that came out of
your mouth, there's going to bea game of telephone that goes on,
and sometimes people won't get the realmessage because they're going to be so worked

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up about it. So go ahead, now, see there's a twenty minute
video of the entire speech. It'son YouTube, And I will say that
I think maybe that reaction, evenif it was a little too amped up.
I watched the entire video, andwhat I came away from it was
with was the idea that that's essentiallywhat he was saying, and if some

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people took him further than the rootstory was. What about the reaction from
the Chiefs courtesy Bold again a tenWHB Kansas City. I haven't heard anything
from them, from the ownership group, from the front office, from Andy
Reid. How do you think theteam responds to this, if they respond
at all. I don't know thatthey're gonna respond to it. And the

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Chiefs have the OTAs this week andAndy Reid and we'll we'll speak on Wednesday.
He may be asked about it.Guarantee he'll be asked. Don't you
think he'll be asking Yeah, butI don't. I don't think he'll say
much about it because it wasn't offthe away from the team. It wasn't
again, wasn't done with in anofficial capacity. The only comment that I've

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seen that's even adjacent to the teamwas that Gracie Hunt, the daughter of
Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, was onFox and Friends last weekend, since she
respects him and his Christian faith forwhat he's accomplished. But that's the closest.
That's the only comment I've hearned fromanyone, even remotely involved with the
Chiefs. I don't think they're goingto say anything about it unless they're asked

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about it, and I don't knowthat they I almost say I don't know
that they should. They're going tobe asked. If they don't want to
talk about it. I guess that'stheir place to not talk about it,
but the question will be asked.But I just don't think it's going to
have any kind of impact within theteam because for two reasons. One,
it's pretty hard to upset that lockerroom. I mean, they've had their

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share of events that would do so, and they just won their second straight
Super Bowl, so that's an awfullydifficult locker room to overturn. Also,
I don't think anyone in that lockerroom was surprised by what he said.
They may have been surprised that hesaid it where he said it, but
he wears his opinions on those issuesquite clearly on his sleeve and has no

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issue with whatever backlash comes from them. So I don't see any impact at
all in that locker room. Well, so you see just going forward.
I mean, look, the guy'sa damn good kicker that that's got to
be at least a part of thediscussion, right, And uh, is
he you just said that you don'tthink that that his teammates are gonna have

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a big issue with it, Soyou you think this is just much ado
about nothing in terms of how it'sgoing to be played with the team?
Is that right? Uh? Yeah, Yeah, I would say that's that's
probably pretty close to the way Iwould describe it. I just don't think
I don't think anyone. He's beenaround long enough, but he's, as
I said, not not shy abouthis opinions. He's he's been on television

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commercials, uh for for issues alongthose same lines. There's nobody in that
locker room that doesn't know exactly whatHarrison Bucker thinks about these these issues.
I don't think anyone was surprised atall if they accepted him before he said
those hoards are gonna accept him afterwards. And and the combination of that and
the fact that we think of thethings this lot that this Chiefs team has

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kind of dealt with off the fieldthe last four or five years, and
they just seem to show no signsof cracking in that regard. So I
think it will be a storyline it'llbe one of those things that people kind
of pointing back to that I thinkit will have zero impact on whether this
team can repeat. Yeah, hey, Curtis Sebold again eight ten WHB,

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I appreciate this. Your photos startingto break up a little bit, but
just heay real quick. You mentionedit. Nobody in the NFL has ever
won three in a row. Giveus a reason why and why not.
The Chiefs will be the first tomaybe make that happen. That is an
interesting I think it's tough to wintwo in a row is the toughest part.
But if the teams that have triedto win three in a row,

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it takes so many things going rightfor your team that it's really difficult to
see those things happening three consecutive years. Some of the teams haven't really had
a chance. That brought me.John Obie retired on one of those years,
and I look back and tried tofind a scene between the teams that
didn't three peat, and there reallyisn't one consistent thread. I think the

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toughest part is that it's really toughto win a championship in any any year,
so that that's where you begin.But they have the best pieces in
place. They have the best playeron the planet, it's the most important
position, still in the prime ofhis career. They have a quarterback who
has almost a mind meld with anoffensive coordinator who seems to have no end

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to the things he can draw upthat offense. The defense is coming around.
They seem to manage to keep alltheir all their assistant coaches. Uh,
schedule could be kind of dicey,but uh, I think there is
there right now playing as well asany team has who has had an opportunity
at a three peat. But uh, it's it's gonna be It's gonna be
tough. They got to overcome alot of things every year, and this

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year is no exception, no doubt. Curt of Seabolt eight ten, WHB.
We appreciate the visit, best ofluck and we'll talk down the road.
Man. Appreciate this pal. Thanksguys, you get a cure to
Sea Bowl from Kansas City. We'regonna break. We're gonna head to Denver
by the way, coming up toas well here at five thirty. But
you want to put a final ballon that Bucker conversation, go ahead.
Well, I would just say,you know, one thing Bucker said right

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after his timent out to win.He says he talks about his wife.
He says, she is the onethat ensures I never let football or my
business become a distraction from that ofa husband and father. She is the
person that knows me best, andthrough our marriage, Lord Willing, we
are both attain salvation. So Ithink there's a lot of men that would
say my highest calling is being afather, sure, and being a husband,

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and I think that, But whatbuck you know, if you parse
what he says, he's not He'snot saying your highest calling, women,
that's going to be your highest calling. I think what he's saying is that
if if that's what you do,many women they will view that as their
highest call, That that they willembrace one of the most important titles of

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all homemaker, And and that ifthey make that decision, that's the key
thing. If a woman wants tobe a professional, go out to be
the president of the United States,that's her of course, that's this doesn't
even have to be said. Butif she wants to be a homemaker,
what he was saying is that thathas honor too, and is say,

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my greatest honor is being a husbandand a father and many here's the problem.
Ways to the problem, Tom Brady, do you expect the entire country
to understand that? Because if I'mHarrison Butker and I'm concerned about the reaction
to my speech at Benedictine College,I'm not making the speech. I don't
think he gives a damn about thereaction because nobody, there's nobody in this

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business, in sports and media whocould possibly think that's saying something like that
would be reacted to the way thatyou felt it should be reacted to.
We get a guy on fromer inthe city who who states a material untruth
about what Bucker said, and right, but that's to bring it though.

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That's the way he's perceiving it.That's the way he's perceiving it. A
lot of people are perceiving it thatway, whether right or wrong, that
that's the way it's being perceived.I agree again, if he was concerned
about the reaction, he wouldn't havedone it. We're going to break four
forty one, We'll get some texts. We're gonna head to Denver at five
point thirty. What is Ryan grubI want to ask you a five o'clock
What is Ryan Grubb gonna do forGeno Smith that Shane Waldron and other coordinators

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could not do at five o'clock tonightright here on ninety three three KJRFM
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