October 28, 2025 • 15 mins
Larry Stone, legendary Seattle sports writer, joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about game three of the World Series last night, Will Klein pitching for the Dodgers last night, Babe Ruth vs. Shohei Ohtani in the GOAT debate, and John Stanton’s letter.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger, better,
and fresher since nineteen seventy one, with eight fugit Sound
locations from Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between. There's
a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick, here's
Larry Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know what this means.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
If we're going to keep doing this, we got to
keep getting Larry Stone some RAM gift cards.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Can you handle that?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
By the way?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay, good, as long as you know.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Is this an extension?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Absolutely, This is not a part of the original deal man. Yeah,
this is an addendum to the original agreement with Larry.
So let's get the guy taking care of Larry. How
are you, pal, I'm doing good. Keep those RAM cards
coming out. Yes, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh yes, all right.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Did you stay up to watch all eighteen innings last night?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I did? I did. I was not going to turn
that thing off until it was over. Yeah. I was
getting a little worried that it might go to about
two in the morning, but Freddy Freeman took care of that.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Was it a great game?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Or just a great event, because those are two different things.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think it was a great game, Dick. I mean
there was. There was a lot of things happened. You know,
guys getting thrown out on the bases, you know, Tany's day,
Kershaw coming in. I just I just think it was
very eventful and very tense because they had hung in
the balance for about six hours. So I wouldn't in
(01:31):
fact call it great game.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I gotta be honest with you, Larry. I stayed
up for the entire thing, just like you. I turned
it on in the bottom of the ninth to see
if the Dodgers could could get to win. I've tried
to purposely stay away because it just makes me sick
thinking about what could have been. And I turned it
on in the bottom of the ninth and I just
kept watching. And then the Blue Jays lost, and I
(01:53):
was in a pretty good mood. And then I saw
your tweet. It's like you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Came into my living room and you whispered my Will
Klein played for Tacoma, and.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
I'm like, man, really, really, I mean, tell us about
this because Will Kline, I mean, he looked unbelievable last night.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He did, and I mean, John Smoltz, who knows a
little bit about pitching, was just talking about how great
his stuff was. And I'll be honest, Softy, I completely
forgot he was in the Americaners organization. But I'm on
a I'm in a chat group with Mike Kurdo, the
former voice of the Very Years, and he pointed out
that this guy was in Tacoma this year with a
seven point one seven e er. So I did so.
(02:41):
I immediately looked it up, and sure enough, he was
traded in June for a thirty year old left hander
named Joe Jack who didn't do very well in Tacoma either,
and you know will clinb and do very well and
for the Dodgers in the minors. But you know, he
(03:03):
had the game of his life. He'll always have that game.
He was just incredible, you know, going way beyond what
anyone expected of him. Mormon innings and I think they
probably felt comfortable going, but they didn't have anybody else.
They were gonna have to go to Yama Moto in
the nineteenth or the Gail Ross one or the other
(03:23):
as an aside. When when they had a report where
I think it was Verduce she said that Dave Roberts
said they were going to go to a position player
if they didn't score in the eighteenth and I was thinking,
what a disgrace that would be to have a position
player pitching in the World Series. So I'm glad that didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Happen, which has never happened right ever, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Never unless you count Babe Ruth and Shoe Otani position players.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Well, I'm not one of those.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
And there are people out there, oh, like, way to go,
Jerry getting rid of Will Klein. I'm not one of
those people, because I understand he was terrible in Tacoma,
as you mentioned, he was even terrible in the Dodger
system is as well.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
But Softie writes the point earlier. It's like, the.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Guy does throw one hundred miles an hour. So at
what point, when you got a guy that throws a
hundred do you just have to put him somewhere in
your system to see if you can harness something over
the course of three or four months, and then move
him up when he gets some control.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, no, that's that's fair. I think they tried that.
I think that's why they acquired him. I can't remember
what organization they got him from in the offseason, and
he was actually up with the Mariners. Adam Jude had
a story about that today. He came up for one
game when they were short in the bullpen. He was
out in the bullpen for a game. They didn't need him,
(04:40):
somebody got healthy or you know, got some rest, and
they sent him back to Tacoma. So he was a
Mariner this year for it for a day. Yeah, you know,
they have they're pretty good at taking guys. You know,
this organization has a good track record of taking guys
like him who have not succeeded but have tools and
(05:02):
turning him into pretty good relievers. And they just didn't
work with this guy for whatever reason. I think they
probably felt they needed more left handed options at that
point of the season. So you know, they traded him
for a guy who never made it to the majors
with them, and may and may never but I agree
it's one that got away. But you know, at the time,
(05:25):
I don't think anybody e'ven blinked an eye enough transaction
if they even noticed it, which I got to say
I did not now.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Of course not.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
He was deffayed by the A's on January seventeenth and
four days later shipped off to Seattle. So he was
with Oakland, but Larry Stones with us courtesy of the
Ram and Larry, you mentioned Babe Ruth and Showho Tani.
And for as sick of as the as we are
of the Lebron mj debate, the Babe Ruth O'tani debate
is going to rage, and it's going to rage for
(05:53):
a long long time. I don't want to share any thoughts.
I want to give you the floor. No leading question
is okay. So when you hear people say greatest of
all time, surpassing Babe Ruth, where do you weigh in
on that?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, it's one of the few people who has seen
both of them play.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Dick said it first.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, I believe me. I've heard I've heard versions of
that joke now about one hundred times a year for
about the last ten years as the senior statesman of
Seattle media. There's not another Babe Ruth. I mean he
was transformational. I mean he was a larger than life figure.
(06:38):
But I think if you look at achievements, I think Otani,
you know, maybe on the verge of surpassing the Babe
Babe did not pitch for very long. Otani has been
you know, he's been a quality pitcher for a number
of years with the time out for a couple of injuries.
(06:59):
And I think he's playing you know, you know, his offense.
This is a completely different era, and it's it's harder
to put up numbers like he like he is putting
up in this era. So, uh, I think it's a
it's a fair comparison. You know. I don't think he'll
ever match Babe Ruth for cultural impact, but I think
(07:21):
I think he's on the par with him as a
you know, talent wise, in production wise.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
What's hard for me to weigh with with Babe Ruth
is okay. On the positives, is just the dominance, like
out homering like.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Half the league.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Yeah, as far as that, But then the negative being
he played against a really small sub section of baseball
players in America versus what they're playing now.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, No, that's an absolutely valid point. You know, he
didn't play against anybody of color, anyone from Latin America.
There were eight teams in the American League, so he
saw pitchers over and over again. There wasn't release, there
wasn't relaf specialists. They weren't throwing one hundred miles an
hour or anywhere close, so uh, you know, the gloves
(08:09):
weren't as good. I mean, there's there's so many factors
that that I think helped his production. Not to say
he wasn't great, but uh, you know, I'm a firm
believer that athletes of today are vastly superior to athletes
of that era. And I think the game has played
it it sure, you know, I know, at a at
a much higher level than it was than it was
(08:30):
back then. For all the complaints you hear from from
the previous generation that these guys don't know how to
play baseball, I think I think that's just a typical,
you know, get off my lawn type of reaction. And
I think that there is skilled as they've ever been
and will continue to be with each succeeding generation.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean I think they're bigger, faster, stronger, right.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, like we've talked about a couple of times,
I mean humans have evolved. I mean, look at look
at what people looked like and how tall they were
and how fast they were and forty yard one hundred
meter dash times and marathon times from one hundred years
ago versus today, it's totally different. So yeah, I mean,
I mean, is it possible, Larry, Like my take is
(09:14):
this that I think if you want to argue that
shohe is a better athlete and even a better baseball
player than Babe Ruth, I got no problem with that.
Is it one hundred years later, like we said, you know,
humans have evolved, But I think the dominance of Babe Ruth,
like when he retired, he had three hundred and thirty
six more home runs than the next guy. Like, we'll
never see anything like that dominance, right.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
No, No, that's that's will never be even approached again.
But you know, there's the element of pitching too. I mean,
Ruth was a good pitcher, but not for very long,
you know. And when you factor in the fact that
Otani is a dominant, overpowering pitcher in addition to being
(10:00):
you know, the slugger than he is, I think that
that is the difference maker for him. You know.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
It's it's interesting that the talk in the NBA the
last year has been for can foreign players be the
face of the league, and it's been a problem for
the NBA.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Why is it not a problem in baseball?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Because Shoe certainly along with Aaron Judge, of the faces
of this league.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm not sure I have an answer to that.
I think there's been foreign players in baseball for so
long it's just become part of the fabric of the sport,
going back to you know, Roberto Clemente or you know,
even before that. It's not a new thing, you know,
it's that that's what baseball is is. It's a worldwide game,
(10:46):
and the Latin players are completely dominant, and now the
Japanese players are getting to be dominant as well. So
and I think he's a likable guy, even though we
don't know his personality because we don't hear him talk
in his native language and haven't seen many interviews with
him where he really opens up. It doesn't doesn't seem
(11:07):
like he wants to open up. But there is still,
I think a likability factor with him. And I think
there's just an awe of his achievement in the same
way there was with like a Bo Jackson.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
No doubt, I mean, none of you saw it. Last night.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
There was a video the Dodgers put out of Dave
Roberts in the clubhouse and he looks over at show
Hay and show Hey's like going into his wind up,
like he's reminding people he's starting tomorrow, and it was
it was really playful.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It was a very very cool moment.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So he looks like a great teammate and a guy
that people have fun playing with.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But Larry stones with us. And do you still read
the paper The Times, by the way every now and then?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Okay, I dothfully?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
What did you make of John Stanton's letter he published?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think they should hire him as a staff writer.
He's got some real talent.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And what did you make of what you read in
the paper?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Man? I thought it was a good move by him.
I still think, you know, the the proof is in
the pudding. They it's all well and good to say
that stuff. The fans wanted to see him go out
and spend money and then then they'll love them again.
And there's a lot of pressure on them this offseason,
(12:19):
I think, to to go spend And you know, I
didn't see anything in that letter that indicates what they're
going to do and how aggressive they're going to be.
And I think that's that's going to be the story
of the off season for the Mariners.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, I think that that he could have taken it
one step further, right, he says, I know we're going
to get there. There is work to do to take
that final step. That work starts now. It would have
been I think, taking the next step and say we
will we will do what it takes to put a
team on the field that can can win the World
Series next year. And I don't think that would have
(12:54):
you know, wouldn't it cost him any extra money to
do that?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
But I think it would have been a nice statement,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, I would have. I mean, I sort of understand
from a pragmatic point of view why they didn't do
that kind of box themselves into where, you know, you
promised that you were going to do this, but you know,
if you know, maybe you know, if they could have
the full intention to do that and not have anybody
who wants to come play here, right and so you know,
(13:22):
would that be a failure if that happened, if they
said that they were going to do whatever it takes. So,
I mean, I understand it. It's all rhetoric and words. Anyway,
what's no one will remember that letter if they go
out and sign Naylor and bring in you know, Alex
Bregman or something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, a lot of it leaves some room for translation,
there's no doubt about it. But Larry, before you go,
you mentioned Naylor right there, and I guess my question
would be this, outside of the ridiculous, which is somebody
offering him sixty million dollars a year, you see any
realistic reason why the Mariners should lose him?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, I don't. I think the only reason be if
he really wants to go somewhere else. He said all
the right things. I think it's you know, a good
agent will tell players to act like they want to
play everywhere so that there's an impression that they have
bargaining power and that they have interests, and so you know,
(14:19):
it could force their price up. But I think it
was genuine. I think he really did enjoy playing here,
and it's just this makes too much sense for both sides.
On the other hand, he's a free agent, and you know,
he can determine where he wants to go. Maybe he
loved playing in Cleveland and wants to go back there.
(14:40):
Maybe he wants to try out New York or something.
So you know, we really don't know his deep, deepest
desires as far as where he wants to play, But
my indica edication and my feeling is that he wants
to play here and they want him, and usually those
two things will lead to a lead to a deal.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Right, Larry, great stuff, Enjoy the rest of the world series,
and if this thing goes nineteen tonight, we expect you
to be up tweeting about it like you were last night.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, hey, look, you're retired. You're retired, you got nothing
else to do. Come on, man, we're going to rely
on you.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
That's right. I could sleep in now, that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, all right, the rest of us have jobs. Man,
Come on, Larry, you're the man, great stuff, and we'll
talk sooner.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right, all right, see you get all.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Right, Larry Stone with us on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
The Otani Babe debate's going to rage, man, rage and
rage and rage. It's going to replace the Lebron MJ debate.
And by the end of it, you'll be just as
sick of this as you are of that Mike Benton,
by the way, who nobody's really sick of Mike. Come on,
maybe a couple of people, but nobody really. He'll join
us before the pregame show starts Cracking Canadians, coming up
seven o'clock right here on ninety three three KJARFM
It's time for our weekly conversation with legendary sports writer
Larry Stone, brought to you by the Ram Restaurant and Brewery, Bigger, better,
and fresher since nineteen seventy one, with eight fugit Sound
locations from Marysville to Lacey and everywhere in between. There's
a Ram there you now with Softy and Dick, here's
Larry Stone.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
You know what this means.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
If we're going to keep doing this, we got to
keep getting Larry Stone some RAM gift cards.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Can you handle that?
Speaker 4 (00:25):
By the way?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Okay, good, as long as you know.
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Is this an extension?
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Absolutely, This is not a part of the original deal man. Yeah,
this is an addendum to the original agreement with Larry.
So let's get the guy taking care of Larry. How
are you, pal, I'm doing good. Keep those RAM cards
coming out. Yes, I'm here for you.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh yes, all right.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
Did you stay up to watch all eighteen innings last night?
Speaker 4 (00:48):
I did? I did. I was not going to turn
that thing off until it was over. Yeah. I was
getting a little worried that it might go to about
two in the morning, but Freddy Freeman took care of that.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Was it a great game?
Speaker 6 (01:02):
Or just a great event, because those are two different things.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
I think it was a great game, Dick. I mean
there was. There was a lot of things happened. You know,
guys getting thrown out on the bases, you know, Tany's day,
Kershaw coming in. I just I just think it was
very eventful and very tense because they had hung in
the balance for about six hours. So I wouldn't in
(01:31):
fact call it great game.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, I gotta be honest with you, Larry. I stayed
up for the entire thing, just like you. I turned
it on in the bottom of the ninth to see
if the Dodgers could could get to win. I've tried
to purposely stay away because it just makes me sick
thinking about what could have been. And I turned it
on in the bottom of the ninth and I just
kept watching. And then the Blue Jays lost, and I
(01:53):
was in a pretty good mood. And then I saw
your tweet. It's like you.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Came into my living room and you whispered my Will
Klein played for Tacoma, and.
Speaker 7 (02:04):
I'm like, man, really, really, I mean, tell us about
this because Will Kline, I mean, he looked unbelievable last night.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
He did, and I mean, John Smoltz, who knows a
little bit about pitching, was just talking about how great
his stuff was. And I'll be honest, Softy, I completely
forgot he was in the Americaners organization. But I'm on
a I'm in a chat group with Mike Kurdo, the
former voice of the Very Years, and he pointed out
that this guy was in Tacoma this year with a
seven point one seven e er. So I did so.
(02:41):
I immediately looked it up, and sure enough, he was
traded in June for a thirty year old left hander
named Joe Jack who didn't do very well in Tacoma either,
and you know will clinb and do very well and
for the Dodgers in the minors. But you know, he
(03:03):
had the game of his life. He'll always have that game.
He was just incredible, you know, going way beyond what
anyone expected of him. Mormon innings and I think they
probably felt comfortable going, but they didn't have anybody else.
They were gonna have to go to Yama Moto in
the nineteenth or the Gail Ross one or the other
(03:23):
as an aside. When when they had a report where
I think it was Verduce she said that Dave Roberts
said they were going to go to a position player
if they didn't score in the eighteenth and I was thinking,
what a disgrace that would be to have a position
player pitching in the World Series. So I'm glad that didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
Happen, which has never happened right ever, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Never unless you count Babe Ruth and Shoe Otani position players.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Well, I'm not one of those.
Speaker 6 (03:49):
And there are people out there, oh, like, way to go,
Jerry getting rid of Will Klein. I'm not one of
those people, because I understand he was terrible in Tacoma,
as you mentioned, he was even terrible in the Dodger
system is as well.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
But Softie writes the point earlier. It's like, the.
Speaker 6 (04:03):
Guy does throw one hundred miles an hour. So at
what point, when you got a guy that throws a
hundred do you just have to put him somewhere in
your system to see if you can harness something over
the course of three or four months, and then move
him up when he gets some control.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Yeah, no, that's that's fair. I think they tried that.
I think that's why they acquired him. I can't remember
what organization they got him from in the offseason, and
he was actually up with the Mariners. Adam Jude had
a story about that today. He came up for one
game when they were short in the bullpen. He was
out in the bullpen for a game. They didn't need him,
(04:40):
somebody got healthy or you know, got some rest, and
they sent him back to Tacoma. So he was a
Mariner this year for it for a day. Yeah, you know,
they have they're pretty good at taking guys. You know,
this organization has a good track record of taking guys
like him who have not succeeded but have tools and
(05:02):
turning him into pretty good relievers. And they just didn't
work with this guy for whatever reason. I think they
probably felt they needed more left handed options at that
point of the season. So you know, they traded him
for a guy who never made it to the majors
with them, and may and may never but I agree
it's one that got away. But you know, at the time,
(05:25):
I don't think anybody e'ven blinked an eye enough transaction
if they even noticed it, which I got to say
I did not now.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Of course not.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
He was deffayed by the A's on January seventeenth and
four days later shipped off to Seattle. So he was
with Oakland, but Larry Stones with us courtesy of the
Ram and Larry, you mentioned Babe Ruth and Showho Tani.
And for as sick of as the as we are
of the Lebron mj debate, the Babe Ruth O'tani debate
is going to rage, and it's going to rage for
(05:53):
a long long time. I don't want to share any thoughts.
I want to give you the floor. No leading question
is okay. So when you hear people say greatest of
all time, surpassing Babe Ruth, where do you weigh in
on that?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Well, it's one of the few people who has seen
both of them play.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Dick said it first.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Well, I believe me. I've heard I've heard versions of
that joke now about one hundred times a year for
about the last ten years as the senior statesman of
Seattle media. There's not another Babe Ruth. I mean he
was transformational. I mean he was a larger than life figure.
(06:38):
But I think if you look at achievements, I think Otani,
you know, maybe on the verge of surpassing the Babe
Babe did not pitch for very long. Otani has been
you know, he's been a quality pitcher for a number
of years with the time out for a couple of injuries.
(06:59):
And I think he's playing you know, you know, his offense.
This is a completely different era, and it's it's harder
to put up numbers like he like he is putting
up in this era. So, uh, I think it's a
it's a fair comparison. You know. I don't think he'll
ever match Babe Ruth for cultural impact, but I think
(07:21):
I think he's on the par with him as a
you know, talent wise, in production wise.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
What's hard for me to weigh with with Babe Ruth
is okay. On the positives, is just the dominance, like
out homering like.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
Half the league.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Yeah, as far as that, But then the negative being
he played against a really small sub section of baseball
players in America versus what they're playing now.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
Yeah, No, that's an absolutely valid point. You know, he
didn't play against anybody of color, anyone from Latin America.
There were eight teams in the American League, so he
saw pitchers over and over again. There wasn't release, there
wasn't relaf specialists. They weren't throwing one hundred miles an
hour or anywhere close, so uh, you know, the gloves
(08:09):
weren't as good. I mean, there's there's so many factors
that that I think helped his production. Not to say
he wasn't great, but uh, you know, I'm a firm
believer that athletes of today are vastly superior to athletes
of that era. And I think the game has played
it it sure, you know, I know, at a at
a much higher level than it was than it was
(08:30):
back then. For all the complaints you hear from from
the previous generation that these guys don't know how to
play baseball, I think I think that's just a typical,
you know, get off my lawn type of reaction. And
I think that there is skilled as they've ever been
and will continue to be with each succeeding generation.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Yeah, I mean I think they're bigger, faster, stronger, right.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I mean, like we've talked about a couple of times,
I mean humans have evolved. I mean, look at look
at what people looked like and how tall they were
and how fast they were and forty yard one hundred
meter dash times and marathon times from one hundred years
ago versus today, it's totally different. So yeah, I mean,
I mean, is it possible, Larry, Like my take is
(09:14):
this that I think if you want to argue that
shohe is a better athlete and even a better baseball
player than Babe Ruth, I got no problem with that.
Is it one hundred years later, like we said, you know,
humans have evolved, But I think the dominance of Babe Ruth,
like when he retired, he had three hundred and thirty
six more home runs than the next guy. Like, we'll
never see anything like that dominance, right.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
No, No, that's that's will never be even approached again.
But you know, there's the element of pitching too. I mean,
Ruth was a good pitcher, but not for very long,
you know. And when you factor in the fact that
Otani is a dominant, overpowering pitcher in addition to being
(10:00):
you know, the slugger than he is, I think that
that is the difference maker for him. You know.
Speaker 6 (10:06):
It's it's interesting that the talk in the NBA the
last year has been for can foreign players be the
face of the league, and it's been a problem for
the NBA.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Why is it not a problem in baseball?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Because Shoe certainly along with Aaron Judge, of the faces
of this league.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
Yeah, I'm not sure I have an answer to that.
I think there's been foreign players in baseball for so
long it's just become part of the fabric of the sport,
going back to you know, Roberto Clemente or you know,
even before that. It's not a new thing, you know,
it's that that's what baseball is is. It's a worldwide game,
(10:46):
and the Latin players are completely dominant, and now the
Japanese players are getting to be dominant as well. So
and I think he's a likable guy, even though we
don't know his personality because we don't hear him talk
in his native language and haven't seen many interviews with
him where he really opens up. It doesn't doesn't seem
(11:07):
like he wants to open up. But there is still,
I think a likability factor with him. And I think
there's just an awe of his achievement in the same
way there was with like a Bo Jackson.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
No doubt, I mean, none of you saw it. Last night.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
There was a video the Dodgers put out of Dave
Roberts in the clubhouse and he looks over at show
Hay and show Hey's like going into his wind up,
like he's reminding people he's starting tomorrow, and it was
it was really playful.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It was a very very cool moment.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
So he looks like a great teammate and a guy
that people have fun playing with.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
But Larry stones with us. And do you still read
the paper The Times, by the way every now and then?
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Okay, I dothfully?
Speaker 2 (11:44):
What did you make of John Stanton's letter he published?
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I think they should hire him as a staff writer.
He's got some real talent.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
And what did you make of what you read in
the paper?
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Man? I thought it was a good move by him.
I still think, you know, the the proof is in
the pudding. They it's all well and good to say
that stuff. The fans wanted to see him go out
and spend money and then then they'll love them again.
And there's a lot of pressure on them this offseason,
(12:19):
I think, to to go spend And you know, I
didn't see anything in that letter that indicates what they're
going to do and how aggressive they're going to be.
And I think that's that's going to be the story
of the off season for the Mariners.
Speaker 6 (12:32):
Yeah, I think that that he could have taken it
one step further, right, he says, I know we're going
to get there. There is work to do to take
that final step. That work starts now. It would have
been I think, taking the next step and say we
will we will do what it takes to put a
team on the field that can can win the World
Series next year. And I don't think that would have
(12:54):
you know, wouldn't it cost him any extra money to
do that?
Speaker 5 (12:57):
But I think it would have been a nice statement,
don't you.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yeah, I would have. I mean, I sort of understand
from a pragmatic point of view why they didn't do
that kind of box themselves into where, you know, you
promised that you were going to do this, but you know,
if you know, maybe you know, if they could have
the full intention to do that and not have anybody
who wants to come play here, right and so you know,
(13:22):
would that be a failure if that happened, if they
said that they were going to do whatever it takes. So,
I mean, I understand it. It's all rhetoric and words. Anyway,
what's no one will remember that letter if they go
out and sign Naylor and bring in you know, Alex
Bregman or something like that.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Yeah, a lot of it leaves some room for translation,
there's no doubt about it. But Larry, before you go,
you mentioned Naylor right there, and I guess my question
would be this, outside of the ridiculous, which is somebody
offering him sixty million dollars a year, you see any
realistic reason why the Mariners should lose him?
Speaker 4 (13:55):
No, I don't. I think the only reason be if
he really wants to go somewhere else. He said all
the right things. I think it's you know, a good
agent will tell players to act like they want to
play everywhere so that there's an impression that they have
bargaining power and that they have interests, and so you know,
(14:19):
it could force their price up. But I think it
was genuine. I think he really did enjoy playing here,
and it's just this makes too much sense for both sides.
On the other hand, he's a free agent, and you know,
he can determine where he wants to go. Maybe he
loved playing in Cleveland and wants to go back there.
(14:40):
Maybe he wants to try out New York or something.
So you know, we really don't know his deep, deepest
desires as far as where he wants to play, But
my indica edication and my feeling is that he wants
to play here and they want him, and usually those
two things will lead to a lead to a deal.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Right, Larry, great stuff, Enjoy the rest of the world series,
and if this thing goes nineteen tonight, we expect you
to be up tweeting about it like you were last night.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Okay, hey, look, you're retired. You're retired, you got nothing
else to do. Come on, man, we're going to rely
on you.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
That's right. I could sleep in now, that's right.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
Yeah, all right, the rest of us have jobs. Man,
Come on, Larry, you're the man, great stuff, and we'll
talk sooner.
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Right, all right, see you get all.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Right, Larry Stone with us on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
The Otani Babe debate's going to rage, man, rage and
rage and rage. It's going to replace the Lebron MJ debate.
And by the end of it, you'll be just as
sick of this as you are of that Mike Benton,
by the way, who nobody's really sick of Mike. Come on,
maybe a couple of people, but nobody really. He'll join
us before the pregame show starts Cracking Canadians, coming up
seven o'clock right here on ninety three three KJARFM
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