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May 20, 2025 15 mins
O’Dea High School football Head Coach Monte Kohler joins Dick Fain and Hugh Millen to talk about a recent event with other high school coaches, the development of football at his level and sport in general, the Washington wins record, and what he has learned.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right.

Speaker 2 (00:00):
Rolling into the six o'clock hour, Hugh Reid joins Us
Jackson when our next guest coached his first game for
the ODAY Fighting Irish. I'm gonna give you one guess
and you'll be able to answer this question. Okay, I'm
gonna give you one guess. Who just came off an

(00:21):
Orange Bowl championship as the quarterback of the Washington Huskies.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Was it mister Breedlove?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You was mister Breedlove? And that is that is how
long money cole because hughes like ninety now so so
an impressive run by Monti Cohler, the head coach of
the ODAY Fighting Irish and now tied for the winningest
coach in high school football history. Coach, it's good to
talk to you. I haven't talked to you since the

(00:48):
Varsity Football Live days. How are you.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
I'm doing great? Thank you. Yeah, it's still out of
still enjoying every day of it.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Absolutely well. Talk a little bit about what happened this weekend.
There was a really cool event at the vMac, kind
of a two part special event. I was notified by
the Washington State Football Coaches Association. You guys were doing this.
You had a hall of Fame induction ceremony for Tony
Davis of Tahoma, Randy Afalter from Kennewick, Rocky Patching from

(01:20):
North Thurston, and then you also had this new and
aspiring head coach mentorship program. So I'd love to just
get your take on what it was like this weekend
at that great event.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
It was awesome. I mean it was one of the
better things we've done in a while. Obviously, the Hall
of Fame thing is great. Those are great guys and
deserving and you know, and then just to have it
at the Seahawks facility, you know, is really special. And
so you know, shout out to the Seahawks, Kyle Doherty
and Mario Bailey for allowing high school coaches to put

(01:57):
this on there. And then the support that they gave us, uh,
you know, funding a lot of the stuff to make
the little luncheon and that the ceremony happened, and just
you know, like I said, being in that facility, being
in that team room is pretty special. And then the
mentorship program was just uh again, it's something uh we've

(02:18):
talked about. You know, our secretary Will Garrel put a
lot of time and effort to make this happen for us,
and but it was kind of the you know, we
want to make sure high school football stays relevant, stays important,
and you know, being a high school football coach, being
any high school coach is hard these days. And you know,

(02:42):
just the idea that we had some you know, mentorship
people there to talk and we kicked it off with
maybe one of my favorite coaches of all time, Randy Hart,
who just you know, yeah, Randy had the had him
on there the edge of their seat, you know, and
his message wasn't just to the I mean, the purpose
supposed to get first and second year head coaches and

(03:02):
then young coaches that want to be head coaches, but
there are a lot of us old guys in the room.
And again Randy just inspired us to you know, continue
to do what we're doing, and then obviously gave us
some great insights into his career and into Don James
and what it meant to be a coach and and
the importance that we you know that we hoped that
we're making, uh, and the difference in the lives of

(03:25):
some of these young kids. So and so Randy started
it off, and he again just set the tone for
just a wonderful day. And then we had brought in
uh coaches, you know, older coaches, uh you know Tom
Batner and h Van Dalen and those guys and uh,
you know, just from different village and Adam Mathieson and

(03:47):
just older coaches and just so we had these different
panels in the morning and then different panels in the
afternoon with from college coaches talk about recruiting and and
you know, and then so the coaches were rotate through
these sessions and I went to a couple of them,
and again it was one of the better things I've

(04:07):
been to, you know, Randy and I talked about it afterwards,
you know, because it was around Hey, it was a talk.
They had a question and they just you know, we're asking,
you know, just questions. Well, I got a fire coach
that I've worked with me and you know, he's not
doing how do I do this? And how do I
do that? You know, And there was plenty of experience
in the room. And then again to listen to the

(04:30):
young coaches and their perspective on things, it was like, wow,
that's cool because they come from a different place than
I come through from and some of the older guys.
So it was really refreshing. And you know, I think
the state of football, you know, if we can keep
going this and keep these young guys involved in the game,
the state of football, high school football in the state
of Washington is in a pretty good place. Money Cohler, head.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Coach of Oda high school football with us and Money
you said there that the goal is to keep high
school football the words you said relative and important. So
I think for all of us, who you know are
Seahawk fans and Husky fans and and and fans of
this great game, you've got a lot of you got

(05:14):
a lot of years under your belt to watch the
development of high school football. What are concerns that you have?
What what are what are things that really need to
be focused upon so that, in your words, high school
football stays relevant and important.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Well, I think that you know, the numbers, We've got
to keep the numbers up, you know, and that there's
parts to that that and one of those is safety,
you know, And I think we do a great job
in the state on the safety aspect of high school football.
But the other side of that is, you know, we
got to take care of coaches.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
You know.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
I think that you know what I see and again
this is this is my opinion now so is that
you know, school has become destination spots for different sports.
So you want to play football, you go to that school.
Basketball that's you you know, So we got to make
sure that the state of Washington is competitive. You know,

(06:11):
I understand that, you know, you have your top teams
and your bottom teams, but it can't be just four
teams on top every year that are running run the gauntlet,
you know, and that people just so we've got to
you know, help all coaches build programs. Then we've got
to support each other and you know, and and support
coaches that you know, when they do have a good
group of kids that they're they're you know, shouted out

(06:35):
to you that they're getting that what they need to make
sure that you know, their program is built and that
continues to build. We've got to help build other programs,
you know, to make all of all the high school
football better.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
And part of this mentor program that you speak of
is to get coaches to kind of through those tough
early years. Because it sounds to me, if I'm correct,
coach and Monty Cooler head coach Odaate joining us to
me like guys are getting into football coaching or coaching
other sports in high school and it's just it's a
burden and they get out of it quickly. Is that
the case? We just don't have a lot of you know,

(07:10):
lifers like like you and said out and and the
rest of them anymore.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
You know, I don't have the numbers to back it up,
but it sure seems like that. You know, I can
really speak to the Metro League and quite a turnover
at times in the Metro League, and I think throughout
the state. You know, I got when I got a
young coach that you know, I just do whatever I
can to make sure that he's taken care of, that
he stays in the game. And then if you can
get a young coach, it's also a teacher. You know.

(07:37):
Nobody makes a whole lot of money coach in high
school football. So you know, it's important that they you
know that we that they understand that. You know, all
that noise on the outside trying to break you down
can't break you down. You know, what you're doing inside
is what's important, you know. And it's nice to win,
but if you're making a difference in a young man's

(07:59):
life and even if it's only one kid a season,
that's a success. I mean, that's a win. And you know,
those are the things we need to celebrate that we're
moving the game forward at the game of high school.
And I know we all know that it's you know,
it's about scholarships, about this, it's about that. But really
we need to understand that high school football is not

(08:20):
you know, there for those reasons just to build character
and all those buzzwords that have gone on with high
school over the years, because they ring true. They still
ring true. That these kids need it and they're better
because they play it.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
Many Kohler with US and coach Kohler is currently tied
with Sid Otten for most wins in the history of
Washington State high school football, and this fall, coach Kohler
is gonna get that record for himself. And so Money,
I'd like to ask you, you know, this is something
we can all relate to. I sometimes wonder if I,

(08:59):
you know, m my sixty one year old self, if
I could write a letter to my thirty five year
old self when I had kids, you know, say hey,
look this is what I've learned, you know, learn from
my wisdom. If you could sit down and pen a
letter to yourself that you would open up in eighty five.

(09:19):
You know, things that you could not have anticipated then,
but important things that you've learned along the way. What
are some of the things that you would jot down
in that letter.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Well, I think the first thing would be, and I
think we all know this a coach before, but you
need to celebrate and enjoy the wins. I mean, you know,
you have to, and you have to enjoy it with
the kids. And it doesn't matter how you play. You know,
that old idea of an ugly win whatever, there's no
such thing. Wins win and you've got to enjoy those things.

(09:51):
Because one of the coaches said it the thing the
other day, you need to celebrate to win twice as
much as you you know, as that pain of a loss,
you know, and that's kind of I'll live on those losses.
So I would definitely want to enjoy that that journey,
you know, of the winds, even if you didn't play
that well. Just make sure the kids understand how again,

(10:13):
I think that's part of what we're trying to do here,
is make sure kids play and stay in the game.
And you know, if you can ac celebrate those wins.
And the second thing I think I've learned is, and
I've said this before though, is that the idea that
I think when we're young and we're done, we just
live for Friday night, you know, the lights and all that.
I would tell myself, Hey, make sure you enjoy Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,

(10:38):
because that's what I enjoy now. I enjoy the time
that you're with the student athletes and the relationship that
you're building in those moments. And you know, I we
we have to take a bus to practice every year,
and you know, every every day to practice as a
twenty minute bus ride to and from and our kids,

(10:59):
I mean lot of times when they come back years later.
You know. Do you know what I miss most? The bus, right?
You know? So it's the relationships, It's that locker room,
that kind of stuff. So make sure that you build that,
enjoy that, and celebrate that as well.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
How have you had to adapt? How is how is
coaching an eighteen year old football player in nineteen eighty
five different than coaching an eighteen year old football player
in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Well, I think kids now, I mean I think they're
better than they were in a censin eighty five. I mean,
they want to do well, they want to succeed, they
want to compete. You just can't. They gotta know. I
mean two things. One, you have to have a relationship
with them. You know, it's no longer I'm the coach

(11:45):
and you do what I say, right, you know, you
you have to work hard at building that relationship. And
you know, because you know, there's nothing that's going to
happen until they trust you. They have to trust you
that you have their best interests, that you're there for them.
And it's not about wins and losses or you know,
you're the starter whatever, it's a it's about that daily

(12:08):
stuff that you do with them, and you know, just
saying hi and being a part of their lives and
make checking in on them and that. So I think
kids are really good that way, you know. And I
think in general, kids are you know, they're they're more motivated,
they want to work hard, you know, and all kids
are at different levels in relationship to you know, what

(12:30):
football means to them. Some kids are going to get
a completely different experience, but it still needs to be
a positive experience. And you know, I think that's for me.
I tell my coaches, I mean, we got to have fun.
We have to have fun. It has to be fun
for them because I don't want to do it if
it's not. And so you know, there's a gen we've

(12:51):
got to do that for the kids too, And that
talks about if you got eighty kids on your roster,
all eighty need to be a part of that experience.
And so that's what I've learned, you know, or I
want to make sure that we continue to do. And
you know, again, if you got eighty kids, that number
eighty kid, he feels as good as that number one
kid on your team. You know that they're all kind

(13:12):
of there for the same same reason, and they understand
even though I'm not playing, I'm a part of this.
And I think that's what you have to do. I think.
And you know the other days that kids would just
run through you know, your coach and do it whatever
you said they would do. And those days are gone,
and rightly so, and rightly.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So, coach, it was great to talk to you. Before
we let you go, I got to ask you what
September fifth is gonna look like. First of all, you
got to win the game. It's Graham Capalis and if
if my schedule in front of me is correct. But
I know you're not for pomping circumstance and celebration, but
the Oday Football family will be. So what do you
think that day is going to be like or whatever?
You know, what is the plan when you do break

(13:49):
that record?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
There's no plan. I mean, it's another game. I'm sure
somebody's going to try to do something we won't do,
and you know that I don't know, I really don't.
I hope a lot of people. You know, Graham Compels
is a heck of football team, so we might have
to wait a week or two or three before it happens,
So you never know. And you know, we've definitely got

(14:12):
a lot of work to do because they're really good,
and you know, we've lost a lot of good kids.
So it'll be fun no matter what. But the game
will be fun. The other stuff that it really I mean,
it's I understand the importance of it, but it's not
something that I think about. All right.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
That answer didn't surprise me at all coming from you,
totally not surprising. And coach, it's just great to talk
to you, and congratulations in advance and hopefully we'll talk
to you when you when you break that record.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
All right, well, thank you again and again thanks for
you know, mentioning this mentorship program, because it is it's big.
It's huge, and our Coaches Association, the board and Willie
and you know everybody that they put a lot of
hours to make this happen and it was a huge success.
So we look forward to doing it again next year.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Thank you, coach, you appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Thank you so much. You bet Yeah. Great.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Great to hear from a living legend in Washington State
high school football.

Speaker 3 (15:05):
H yeah, and uh you know a humble guy as well.
And and uh it's a long time to be uh
coaching football. And and you know the thing about Mani
is that, uh, while other teams have I don't want
to say evolved, but but there's a lot of shotgun
around the country, spread formations. You got to get all

(15:26):
the best athletes to play with wide receiver on your team.
Monti's a guy that's just you know that it looks
like night. You know Don James football just ifirmation just
pound you. They got great line and great backs and
there's a discipline that he teaches in a consistency there.
So their style, you know, you know, is kind of
you know, stands the test of time.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
It's like novacane. Give it time, give it time, and
it'll always work.
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