May 15, 2025 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about moving from Wednesday to Thursday this week, Aaron Rodgers’ future and if it’s in Pittsburgh, the 2025 schedule released and flexing games to primetime, plus the Seahawks win line.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone else,
asked for the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world.
Check out simply Sattle dot com. Now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softie and Dick all right here. He is the
king of all NFL media. Typically on a Wednesday with us,
but we decided.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That with the NFL schedule coming out yesterday at five,
that we would like to have Mike on the next
day to talk about the schedule. That's partly true. The
other half of that story is that the phone lines
went down yesterday and so we just said the hell
with it. So we are honored to have the leader
of the NFL Press Corps, heavyweight, champion of all NFL media,
Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the NFL on NBC.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you, Pelle.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm glad you told the truth because I was going
to put you on blast.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And it's not entirely.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
One of the percent accurate from my perspective, It went
something like this, Oh, no, our phones are down. Will
you do zoom from your phone? Here's how you do
zoom from your phone. Download this, download that, press this,
press that, and I finally said we should do this tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But the fact that you don't have zoom on your
phone and the fact that you kind of panicked a
little bit when we talked about having to go on
a browser.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I mean, is this an issue for you, this technology thing?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You misconfused? My panic? If misconfused is even a word
with me wanting to not be bothered at all? And
you're not paying me nearly enough to do anything more
than answer the phone, and.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Far well, Mike Florio is with us. All right, let's
get to it.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So there's a conspiracy theory going around that the NFL
scheduled the Steelers and Jets for Week one so Aaron
Rodgers could play the Jets after he signs with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Do you buy that, Well, the.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Steelers are going to play the Jets at some point
this year in New Jersey, and given what happened Aaron
Rodgers two years ago on the fourth snap of the
first game of the season, and it probably makes sense
to make that game happen Week one. Mike North, who's
now in charge of putting the schedule together for the NFL,
acknowledge after the schedule came out that if they had
known Aaron Rodgers was going to be a Steeler, that
would have been not a one o'clock Eastern game. It
(02:14):
would have been a primetime game, a night game. It
would have been more compelling, frankly than Viking Bears on
Monday night to start and to end technically week one.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So phone still down? Seriously, good kidding me right purpose,
I don't know what happened on here?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Okay, you just did you lose it?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Hey hit the open again? We got now, go ahead,
finish your thought.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But anyway, my point is that they had known that
Rogers is going to be a Steeler. I think that
one o'clock Eastern game Steeler Jets would have been a
night game. And he shows there's value in the theory
I had that Rogers needed to just wait. Once we
got within two weeks the schedule release, don't tell the
league you're doing it, because if they start scheduling a
bunch of Pittsburgh pronton games. They're accepting the risk of
(03:04):
being a Mason Rudolph.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
That's true. And when it comes to the schedule, Mike, Now,
the good teams are gonna be good regardless who they play.
The bad teams are gonna be bad. But those twenty
teams in the middle that are all divided, you know,
decided by two games or so, how much does it
matter in your mind? You know, the net rest days,
you know, how many short weeks that sort of thing.
As far as what they're end of the season schedules,
are reco's going to be.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I think everything potentially matters, Everything potentially affects the way
a team adapts or a dozen adapts to the weekend
and week out grind and the best way to go.
And Eric Mangini told me this years ago when he
was coaching the Browns and their schedule for twenty ten
was all one o'clock Eastern games on Sunday, and he said,
I love that. It's a routine, it's a rhythm. We
(03:51):
aren't disrupted, we aren't distracted. We aren't Sunday night here
and Monday night there. And of course that was before
Thursday night. But you look at the chief schedule and
brace being on these big platform games, even if it
means having no rhythm whatsoever to their schedule. They don't
play in the same window in consecutive weeks until week
fifteen and sixteen. I think that there's value in having
(04:14):
regularity in your schedule, having easy games early. If you're
trying to prove yourself with new coach, new players, new whatever,
and you want to really get off to a good start,
you get a soft start, a soft launch in September,
and you get out to a three and one, four
and oh five and two record. All of a sudden,
everything looks better and that gives the team confidence, and
confidence leads to more confidence. Conversely, if you come out
(04:37):
zero to four, one and five, whatever the case may be,
you feel like you're digging out of a hole the
rest of the year. So the configuration of games is critical.
How easy, how hard it is, how much rest you get.
It all adds up and it's all relevant. And the
NFL doesn't really care about the competitive balance. If they did,
everybody have the same number of prime time games, everybody
have the same number of short weeks. They just want
(04:58):
the biggest audience as possible. It is an advantage to
the teams that they think are going to be bad.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I think there, Mikeah, you correct me if I'm wrong.
There's three teams that don't have as of now, any
primetime games. I think the Browns are one of them,
and the Titans kind of surprise number one pick in
the draft and there's no primetime games for the Titans.
Can you remind people which is coph Remind me how
the flex situation works now with Thursday night and Sunday
Night football.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, also, the Saints, for the first time in twenty
five years, don't have a primetime game. So what happens
with the flex after week? Can I believe Sunday night
flex it can start. I'd have to research when specifically
the Monday and Thursday can start. They change the amount
of notice for Thursday night flexing from four weeks down
to two weeks. They don't care about the fans who
(05:44):
pay for the tickets and show up for the games
and possibly have travel arrangements too far away city that
suddenly get changed. When that game that was going to
be played on Sunday afternoon, all of a sudden, he's
yanks to Thursday nights. They don't care about that. They
care about the biggest possible audiences. They made the strategic
decision at some point point that all that matters is
the biggest rating, the biggest audience. That leads to the biggest,
(06:06):
multi billion dollar cash grab from the various network partners.
And that's why you'll see the popular teams. So the
teams they think they're going to be popular. You know,
I feel bad for teams like the Falcons and the
Dolphins who haven't done anything to merit five prime time games.
They're getting treated like they're a good team and they're not.
It's one thing to saddle a good team with a
(06:28):
bunch of night games. You put a bad team or
a medium team in that setting, and it's more likely
they're going to be bad. So again, they'll do whatever
they want, and they'll keep pushing the envelope, and at
some point they're going to be able to change the
schedule whenever they want, you mark my words. At some
point in the not too distant future, flexing will begin
as early as week one. If they want to bail
(06:50):
out of a bad game because of a big injury
and put another game in there, they'll do it.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Mike we're trying to figure out as a group here
why the Seahawks, who won ten games last year with
arguably better quarterback and a second year head coach instead
of a rookie head coach, are now seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Over under on the win total.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
What is Vegas seeing or worried about with this football
team because it seems like easy money?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Well, and I think it's all a matter of perception
and betting trends. That's what determines who bets over and
who bets under and where the sweet spot eventually lands.
So there's equal betting on each side. That's what Vegas
wants on all of these profits. They want equal betting
on each side. They're not trying to set a trap.
They want people to go equally on over and under.
(07:38):
And right now the Seahawks are in a bit of change.
We don't know that Sam Darnold's performance from last year
is going to carry over. He finished so poorly in
Minnesota with that horrible Week eighteen game that they could
have won and been the number one seed if he
wasn't air mailing passes in the red zone, and then
by the playoff game, it didn't matter. It was a
total team failure. So now how that reality settles in
(08:01):
for the Seahawks. Yeah, I don't think seven and a
half is unreasonable. And again, all they gets is trying
to do is make your money, and the best way
to make your money is to get half of the
people to bet half of the money on the one
side and the other half to bet the other half
on the other side.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Mike, the Vikings are playing back to back international games.
They're going to go to Ireland and then stay out
there and go to London in the Tottenham Stadium. How
did that happen? Like, do the Vikings have to agree
to do that? Is that a problem for the players?
What's your thought on that?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Oh? I think it's an advantage for the Vikings because
if you're going to go anyway, all the way across
the ocean, why not play two games? And if you're
giving up two traditional road games, they get an edge
there because now they only have seven instead of nine
road games where they go into a visiting stadium where
the home team is comfortable the road team is uncomfortable, unless,
(08:52):
of course, the fans of the home team have sold
a bunch of the tickets to the fans of I
heard you guys talking about that on the way in,
But I think for the Vikings, if you're going anyway,
let's do two games. Let's try to get two wins,
and then the rest of the conference mostly and definitely
the rest of the NFC North, they have nine true
(09:14):
road games, not seven, So the Lions have to go
to Cincinnati and Baltimore. The Vikings get their AFC North
road games at a neutral site. That's one of those
subtle little things that can end up making a difference
when we get to the end of the season. We
know how tight the margins are and what separates one seed,
two seed, three seed, five seed, sevent seed, whatever. Those
(09:35):
little things can make a difference. So if you're gonna
go anyway, it's a net plus for the Vikings to
avoid two road games.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, Mike, you mentioned the tickets there, and the Hawks
reportally are cracking down on season ticket holders reselling their tickets,
warning that excessive reselling could be grounds to revoking their
renewal rights. Your thoughts on that and how prevalent is
that around the league.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well, this is one of the unintended consequences of scalping
becoming completely and totally accepted. It's amazing we look at
gambling and how the stigma has disappeared over the past
seven years. It was seven years ago yesterday the US
Supreme Court opened the floodgates for legalized state by state wavering. Meanwhile,
(10:21):
the whole scalping thing, there was never a title wave.
There was never a moment where it's like, hey, scalping
is going to be legitimate now. I remember when I
was a kid, there was always these shady guys hanging
around with the laminated cardboard. I need tickets, and I'm thinking, man,
they really want to go to the game. They went
this tick, I want tickets so bad. He played codd
his signing plastic and I didn't know they were trying
(10:43):
to buy and resell and it was happening everywhere. And
now you just get on your phone and the NFL
gets a piece and the teams get a piece. Okay,
well you want to let people easily resell tickets, here's
what's going to happen. You're gonna have a bunch of
people who are trying to turn a profit on their tickets.
And now we see this pushback, whether it's to see
how if there are other teams that have done it too.
The Buccaneers have put a program in place that if
you're going to sell your tickets, they want to buy
(11:05):
them first so they can definitely resell them to people
who they know are going to go and root for
the Buccaneers. But the Packers are the ones back in
February that made the most ways because they've got that
ridiculously long waiting list, and they told their fans that
if you sell all of your tickets, resell all of
your tickets in multiple years, we're taking them back. There's
(11:25):
no chance to state your case like the Seahawks are giving.
You'd sell all your tickets in multiple years, and we
are reclaiming the season ticket right And you know, people
act like they've got some legal rights to it. You
don't have any legal rights to it. The team owns
the ticket. They can do whatever they want. They can
refuse service to anyone and they.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Will, sure.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But how many places do you go somewhere and purchase
something and then be told by the business that you
bought it from that there's limits to what you can
do with it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
After you buy it, it's yours, it's mine.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well, you don't buy it then, buy it. Then the
pack is. It's not like selling someone a car. I'm saying,
here's how you drive it. A ticket to a game
is a license to be present at an event that
the team owns. So don't don't start making these disingenuous
arguments with me. I will tear you apart.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'm just telling you, well, Mike, you're exactly right. If
I don't like it, then the hell with it. And
you know what, there's a lot of people that will
go down that road. Fine, I don't want you to
tell me what to do with my tickets. I'm done,
I'm out. So maybe maybe that's right, that's that's the point.
Maybe that's what they want. Maybe they want to get
tickets back and resell them.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Man, all right, Mike, great stuff, really well done with
the idea to move this to today.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And we're talking a week manics, Mike, So you got
all right, Mike Florial with us. See there's always that pause, right,
there's always the pause at the end. He's thinking about something,
smart ass, and if he can't think of anything, he
just says, goodbye. Let's get to Quill Hollow in North Carolina.
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It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone else,
asked for the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world.
Check out simply Sattle dot com. Now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softie and Dick all right here. He is the
king of all NFL media. Typically on a Wednesday with us,
but we decided.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
That with the NFL schedule coming out yesterday at five,
that we would like to have Mike on the next
day to talk about the schedule. That's partly true. The
other half of that story is that the phone lines
went down yesterday and so we just said the hell
with it. So we are honored to have the leader
of the NFL Press Corps, heavyweight, champion of all NFL media,
Pro Footballtalk dot Com, the NFL on NBC.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Our friend, Michael Florio, how are you, Pelle.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm glad you told the truth because I was going
to put you on blast.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
And it's not entirely.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
One of the percent accurate from my perspective, It went
something like this, Oh, no, our phones are down. Will
you do zoom from your phone? Here's how you do
zoom from your phone. Download this, download that, press this,
press that, and I finally said we should do this tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:12):
But the fact that you don't have zoom on your
phone and the fact that you kind of panicked a
little bit when we talked about having to go on
a browser.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I mean, is this an issue for you, this technology thing?
Speaker 4 (01:25):
You misconfused? My panic? If misconfused is even a word
with me wanting to not be bothered at all? And
you're not paying me nearly enough to do anything more
than answer the phone, and.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Far well, Mike Florio is with us. All right, let's
get to it.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
So there's a conspiracy theory going around that the NFL
scheduled the Steelers and Jets for Week one so Aaron
Rodgers could play the Jets after he signs with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Do you buy that, Well, the.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Steelers are going to play the Jets at some point
this year in New Jersey, and given what happened Aaron
Rodgers two years ago on the fourth snap of the
first game of the season, and it probably makes sense
to make that game happen Week one. Mike North, who's
now in charge of putting the schedule together for the NFL,
acknowledge after the schedule came out that if they had
known Aaron Rodgers was going to be a Steeler, that
would have been not a one o'clock Eastern game. It
(02:14):
would have been a primetime game, a night game. It
would have been more compelling, frankly than Viking Bears on
Monday night to start and to end technically week one.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
So phone still down? Seriously, good kidding me right purpose,
I don't know what happened on here?
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Okay, you just did you lose it?
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Hey hit the open again? We got now, go ahead,
finish your thought.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
But anyway, my point is that they had known that
Rogers is going to be a Steeler. I think that
one o'clock Eastern game Steeler Jets would have been a
night game. And he shows there's value in the theory
I had that Rogers needed to just wait. Once we
got within two weeks the schedule release, don't tell the
league you're doing it, because if they start scheduling a
bunch of Pittsburgh pronton games. They're accepting the risk of
(03:04):
being a Mason Rudolph.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
That's true. And when it comes to the schedule, Mike, Now,
the good teams are gonna be good regardless who they play.
The bad teams are gonna be bad. But those twenty
teams in the middle that are all divided, you know,
decided by two games or so, how much does it
matter in your mind? You know, the net rest days,
you know, how many short weeks that sort of thing.
As far as what they're end of the season schedules,
are reco's going to be.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I think everything potentially matters, Everything potentially affects the way
a team adapts or a dozen adapts to the weekend
and week out grind and the best way to go.
And Eric Mangini told me this years ago when he
was coaching the Browns and their schedule for twenty ten
was all one o'clock Eastern games on Sunday, and he said,
I love that. It's a routine, it's a rhythm. We
(03:51):
aren't disrupted, we aren't distracted. We aren't Sunday night here
and Monday night there. And of course that was before
Thursday night. But you look at the chief schedule and
brace being on these big platform games, even if it
means having no rhythm whatsoever to their schedule. They don't
play in the same window in consecutive weeks until week
fifteen and sixteen. I think that there's value in having
(04:14):
regularity in your schedule, having easy games early. If you're
trying to prove yourself with new coach, new players, new whatever,
and you want to really get off to a good start,
you get a soft start, a soft launch in September,
and you get out to a three and one, four
and oh five and two record. All of a sudden,
everything looks better and that gives the team confidence, and
confidence leads to more confidence. Conversely, if you come out
(04:37):
zero to four, one and five, whatever the case may be,
you feel like you're digging out of a hole the
rest of the year. So the configuration of games is critical.
How easy, how hard it is, how much rest you get.
It all adds up and it's all relevant. And the
NFL doesn't really care about the competitive balance. If they did,
everybody have the same number of prime time games, everybody
have the same number of short weeks. They just want
(04:58):
the biggest audience as possible. It is an advantage to
the teams that they think are going to be bad.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, I think there, Mikeah, you correct me if I'm wrong.
There's three teams that don't have as of now, any
primetime games. I think the Browns are one of them,
and the Titans kind of surprise number one pick in
the draft and there's no primetime games for the Titans.
Can you remind people which is coph Remind me how
the flex situation works now with Thursday night and Sunday
Night football.
Speaker 4 (05:22):
Well, also, the Saints, for the first time in twenty
five years, don't have a primetime game. So what happens
with the flex after week? Can I believe Sunday night
flex it can start. I'd have to research when specifically
the Monday and Thursday can start. They change the amount
of notice for Thursday night flexing from four weeks down
to two weeks. They don't care about the fans who
(05:44):
pay for the tickets and show up for the games
and possibly have travel arrangements too far away city that
suddenly get changed. When that game that was going to
be played on Sunday afternoon, all of a sudden, he's
yanks to Thursday nights. They don't care about that. They
care about the biggest possible audiences. They made the strategic
decision at some point point that all that matters is
the biggest rating, the biggest audience. That leads to the biggest,
(06:06):
multi billion dollar cash grab from the various network partners.
And that's why you'll see the popular teams. So the
teams they think they're going to be popular. You know,
I feel bad for teams like the Falcons and the
Dolphins who haven't done anything to merit five prime time games.
They're getting treated like they're a good team and they're not.
It's one thing to saddle a good team with a
(06:28):
bunch of night games. You put a bad team or
a medium team in that setting, and it's more likely
they're going to be bad. So again, they'll do whatever
they want, and they'll keep pushing the envelope, and at
some point they're going to be able to change the
schedule whenever they want, you mark my words. At some
point in the not too distant future, flexing will begin
as early as week one. If they want to bail
(06:50):
out of a bad game because of a big injury
and put another game in there, they'll do it.
Speaker 5 (06:55):
Mike we're trying to figure out as a group here
why the Seahawks, who won ten games last year with
arguably better quarterback and a second year head coach instead
of a rookie head coach, are now seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Over under on the win total.
Speaker 5 (07:08):
What is Vegas seeing or worried about with this football
team because it seems like easy money?
Speaker 4 (07:14):
Well, and I think it's all a matter of perception
and betting trends. That's what determines who bets over and
who bets under and where the sweet spot eventually lands.
So there's equal betting on each side. That's what Vegas
wants on all of these profits. They want equal betting
on each side. They're not trying to set a trap.
They want people to go equally on over and under.
(07:38):
And right now the Seahawks are in a bit of change.
We don't know that Sam Darnold's performance from last year
is going to carry over. He finished so poorly in
Minnesota with that horrible Week eighteen game that they could
have won and been the number one seed if he
wasn't air mailing passes in the red zone, and then
by the playoff game, it didn't matter. It was a
total team failure. So now how that reality settles in
(08:01):
for the Seahawks. Yeah, I don't think seven and a
half is unreasonable. And again, all they gets is trying
to do is make your money, and the best way
to make your money is to get half of the
people to bet half of the money on the one
side and the other half to bet the other half
on the other side.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Mike, the Vikings are playing back to back international games.
They're going to go to Ireland and then stay out
there and go to London in the Tottenham Stadium. How
did that happen? Like, do the Vikings have to agree
to do that? Is that a problem for the players?
What's your thought on that?
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Oh? I think it's an advantage for the Vikings because
if you're going to go anyway, all the way across
the ocean, why not play two games? And if you're
giving up two traditional road games, they get an edge
there because now they only have seven instead of nine
road games where they go into a visiting stadium where
the home team is comfortable the road team is uncomfortable, unless,
(08:52):
of course, the fans of the home team have sold
a bunch of the tickets to the fans of I
heard you guys talking about that on the way in,
But I think for the Vikings, if you're going anyway,
let's do two games. Let's try to get two wins,
and then the rest of the conference mostly and definitely
the rest of the NFC North, they have nine true
(09:14):
road games, not seven, So the Lions have to go
to Cincinnati and Baltimore. The Vikings get their AFC North
road games at a neutral site. That's one of those
subtle little things that can end up making a difference
when we get to the end of the season. We
know how tight the margins are and what separates one seed,
two seed, three seed, five seed, sevent seed, whatever. Those
(09:35):
little things can make a difference. So if you're gonna
go anyway, it's a net plus for the Vikings to
avoid two road games.
Speaker 5 (09:44):
Well, Mike, you mentioned the tickets there, and the Hawks
reportally are cracking down on season ticket holders reselling their tickets,
warning that excessive reselling could be grounds to revoking their
renewal rights. Your thoughts on that and how prevalent is
that around the league.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
Well, this is one of the unintended consequences of scalping
becoming completely and totally accepted. It's amazing we look at
gambling and how the stigma has disappeared over the past
seven years. It was seven years ago yesterday the US
Supreme Court opened the floodgates for legalized state by state wavering. Meanwhile,
(10:21):
the whole scalping thing, there was never a title wave.
There was never a moment where it's like, hey, scalping
is going to be legitimate now. I remember when I
was a kid, there was always these shady guys hanging
around with the laminated cardboard. I need tickets, and I'm thinking, man,
they really want to go to the game. They went
this tick, I want tickets so bad. He played codd
his signing plastic and I didn't know they were trying
(10:43):
to buy and resell and it was happening everywhere. And
now you just get on your phone and the NFL
gets a piece and the teams get a piece. Okay,
well you want to let people easily resell tickets, here's
what's going to happen. You're gonna have a bunch of
people who are trying to turn a profit on their tickets.
And now we see this pushback, whether it's to see
how if there are other teams that have done it too.
The Buccaneers have put a program in place that if
you're going to sell your tickets, they want to buy
(11:05):
them first so they can definitely resell them to people
who they know are going to go and root for
the Buccaneers. But the Packers are the ones back in
February that made the most ways because they've got that
ridiculously long waiting list, and they told their fans that
if you sell all of your tickets, resell all of
your tickets in multiple years, we're taking them back. There's
(11:25):
no chance to state your case like the Seahawks are giving.
You'd sell all your tickets in multiple years, and we
are reclaiming the season ticket right And you know, people
act like they've got some legal rights to it. You
don't have any legal rights to it. The team owns
the ticket. They can do whatever they want. They can
refuse service to anyone and they.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Will, sure.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
But how many places do you go somewhere and purchase
something and then be told by the business that you
bought it from that there's limits to what you can
do with it.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
After you buy it, it's yours, it's mine.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Well, you don't buy it then, buy it. Then the
pack is. It's not like selling someone a car. I'm saying,
here's how you drive it. A ticket to a game
is a license to be present at an event that
the team owns. So don't don't start making these disingenuous
arguments with me. I will tear you apart.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I'm just telling you, well, Mike, you're exactly right. If
I don't like it, then the hell with it. And
you know what, there's a lot of people that will
go down that road. Fine, I don't want you to
tell me what to do with my tickets. I'm done,
I'm out. So maybe maybe that's right, that's that's the point.
Maybe that's what they want. Maybe they want to get
tickets back and resell them.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Man, all right, Mike, great stuff, really well done with
the idea to move this to today.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
And we're talking a week manics, Mike, So you got
all right, Mike Florial with us. See there's always that pause, right,
there's always the pause at the end. He's thinking about something,
smart ass, and if he can't think of anything, he
just says, goodbye. Let's get to Quill Hollow in North Carolina.
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