January 7, 2026 • 11 mins
Mike Florio of PFT and NBC joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the state of college sports, John Harbaugh and the Ravens parting ways, the Las Vegas Raiders firing Pete Carroll and what’s next, Klint Kubiak’s future, and the NFC playoffs.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Sattle dot com. Now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick all right here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He is our friend from Pro Football Talk dot Com,
the NFL on NBCPFT Live, the heavyweight champion, baby of
the NFL Media Press Corps, our friend Michael Florio.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Mike, how are you pal? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Happy New Year, Butthole?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Happy New Year, butthole to you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hey, I know we're talking NFL, but you want to
chime in as a guy that covers the sport on
this Demon Williams situation. It's right here, Mike, in our
backyard with the Washington quarterback signed an NIL deal on
Friday and then yesterday announces I don't care, I'm putting
my name in the transfer portal. What do you make
of the current state to college football and this story
(01:01):
happening out here in seattle Man.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
College football is experiencing the chaos it deserves as a
result of decades of exploiting players under this fiction of
the NCAA restricting what the university can legally provide to
players by way of compensation. And think about it, all
of these independent businesses huddled under the NCAA umbrella, and
when it was time to compete for the players who
(01:25):
were going to make more money for the program, all
the teams had to say was sorry, the NCAA rules
don't let us do it. It was a giant anti
trust violation. It has collapsed onto itself, and everything that
happened in the wake of that is on the people
who created and maintained that system for as long as
they did. The reckoning came way too late, but it came,
(01:45):
and everything that happens now is a product not only
of that past corruption, but a refusal, a stubborn refusal
by the schools to do what needs to be done,
starting nationwide union with true collective bargaining, which would put
rules in place that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Would prevent what happened.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
But they don't want that. They want Congress to wave
a magic wand and give them a pass and give
them and trust exemption so they can go back to
the days when the players were limited in what they
could make. That's not the answer. The answer is true
collective bargaining, but they don't want that because they don't
want to have to answer to a union. They can't
have it both ways. It is on the schools. The
specific cases may look like it's on the players. The
(02:25):
root problem is on the entire industry, the individual schools
and the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Mike the big news in the NFL the last forty
eight hours or so, the eighteen year run in Baltimore's
over for John Harbaugh. There are reports that he lost
the locker room. Is that your understanding? As well as
far as why he was fired.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I've seen mixed indication. Then, look after a controversial decision
like this is made, there will be individuals with motivations.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
To utilize the media to put out narratives that may
or may not be true.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The bottom line is, after eighteen years, it was time
for both sides to move on. We saw this all
the things that were said about Mike, Tomlin and Pittsburgh
in the aftermath of the embarrassing loss in December at.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Home to the Bills twenty six to seven.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Those things all applied with equal force to what was
going on in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's just time.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
After this long, it's time, and that's what under steved
Bashadi decided. That field goal that was missed, And I
was explaining this to my wife last night because she
was like.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Then this field goal got him fired.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Well, yes, but no it did because if he'd made it,
they'd be getting ready for a game next Monday.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Night, so they wouldn't have fired him.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So yeah, but it was deeper than that, and some
people think that it was ultimately a choice between John
Harbor and Lamar Jackson. I have a feeling that Lamar
Jackson maybe next, depending upon who they hired to be
the coach, what the coach wants, and what Lamar wants.
Based upon the coach they hire, there could be an
effort to trade him.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Not that they'll shop him.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I think they want to be coy about it to
get the best possible trade return.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But I'm not rolling out just because Harball's gone. I'm
not rolling out that Lamar Jackson's staying.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
How about Pete Carroll After a year getting the whack
with Vegas, His fault, spike Tech's fault, previous regime's fault.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
What do you make of that deal?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Everybody's fault and Pete's sin in all of this was
allowing his relentless optimism to make him think the Raiders
were better than they were, the moves they made, specifically
bringing in quarterbacks. You know, Smith thinking about Matthew Stafford
not wanting.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
To develop a young quarterback.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Drafting Ashton Jenny with a top ten pick. That's an
icing on the cake move. You have to have the
cake before you go get the icing. They didn't have
the cake. They don't have enough talent. They misevaluated what
their roster was and it's on Pete Carroll for not
recognizing it. It's on John Spytech for making the moves
that were made to try to make the team better.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And the one guy who has escaped scrutiny so far
for most is Tom Brady. He's an owner.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
That's he was brought in at a reduced rate by
owner Mark Davis to stabilize the football operation, to fill
the void that was created when John Bruden ultimately left
under circumstances that are well documented and in some ways disputed,
but Brady is the right hand man, and now now
Brady's front and center. The statement they issued on Monday
(05:20):
regarding the termination if Pete Carroll said that John Spytech,
in close collaboration with Tom Brady, will lead the football operation.
So Brady's got to decide whether he's going to be
all in or all out. I don't like this halfway
absentee landlord.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I think the people.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Who show up and put in the work every day
in any business, they resent nothing more than someone who
is just doing drive by.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Telling them what they're doing wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
To know what's happening, you have to be there, and
Tom Brady's not going to do that because he's not
given up. He's gig with Fox, he's not given up
all the other stuff he does.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It generates revenue. He tries to make enough.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Money that he can own a team of his own
at some point, which I think is the play. I
don't like it, and I know, oh you hate Tom
Brady's like, no, everybody else is blind to it because
they love Tom Brady. Let's apply the same standard to
him that would apply to anyone else who's trying to
do this halfway ownership of a team running of a
team not fully committed. Matt Ryan, if he gets these
(06:15):
Falcons job as president of football Operations.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's going to be all in. He's going to be
there every day. That's the only way to do a
job like that.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Would Tom Brady have the guts to hire somebody that
currently has a lawsuit going against the NFL in Brian Flores.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
If any team were to hire Brian Flores, it would
be the race. They have a long history of litigation
against the National Football League. And there is a rumor
that's been making the rounds. I heard about it over
the weekend. I haven't heard much talk of it lately,
but you know, this is a time of year where
you don't have to reach high.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
On the tree to find the apples.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
The apples are all over the orchard and you just
got to pick them up and stuff them into the
sack and present them to the consumers as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
As so much news going on right now.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
But the rumor is basically, Tom I'm Brady a Patriot
waiver union where you bring in guys who learned under
Bill Belichick, the guy that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Brady learned under as a player.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Brian Flores is available his scheme is good enough to
get him interviews. He's a free agent, So technically they
could hire Brian Daball to be the head coach and
Brian Flores to be the defensive coordinator. But the way
the rumor has gone around, it's Flores as the head
coach and Dave Ball, the former Giants coach and former
Patriots assistant on several different occasions.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Would run the offense. So we'll see how that plays out.
I had someone's day to me today.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Tom Brady may be crazy enough to try to bring
back Josh mcdaaney's because really, if McDaniels didn't have the
failed stint with the Raiders a couple of years ago,
he'd be a top candidate right now for what he's
done with Drake May So, if they think about bringing
in a quarterback with that first overall pick, or maybe
they offer the first overall pick the Ravens for Lamar Jackson,
don't be shocked if something.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Like that happens. But they need somebody to coach.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
The quarterback, and Tom Brady has more faith in Josh
McDaniels than anyone else when it comes to running an offense.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Request Mike to interview Clint Kubiak, You can remind me
he can interview this week.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Is that correct? Because the Hawks of the bye? Is
that right?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And it's a bad situation. And we talk about this
every year. There should be no interviews of current coaches.
There should be no hiring process at all until the
Super Bowl has ended. He creates a distraction for teams
that are trying to finish the.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Job the right way.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And this is a narrative that comes up every year,
and the head coaches of the teams that still have
games to play don't like it, because here's the reality.
When you're trying to get a head coaching job. Are
you really focused on your current job when you go home?
And this is the example that I've heard coaches give.
When you go home, if you're married, does your wife say, hey,
(08:43):
how's the preparation coming for your offensive attack.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Against the upcoming opponent? Or does the whites say.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Hey, you hear anything about where we're getting at at Atlanta?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Job?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
What about what about Tennessee? You know, I like the
schools better in Nashville than I do in New York.
Whatever it may be, that becomes the focal point of
the guy's life, and it puts the candidate in a
very difficult situation.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
They need to change it.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't think they ever will, But that said, yeah,
he's a viable candidate. I think it's going to be
hard for guys who don't have head coaching experience to
get hired in this cycle.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think teams are going.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
To skew toward guys who have done it before. But
it's undeniable what he's done with Sam Darnold this year
and what he's managed to accomplish with the Seattle offense.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You have the Hawks number one in your power rankings
with the caveat. You said, if they can avoid the Rams,
they'll get back to the Super Bowl. I can read
that one of two ways. I could either say that
you think the Rams will beat the Hawks if they
play the Hawks, or you're just saying the Rams are
the one NFC team that could actually beat the Hawks.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Which are you saying?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I don't see the difference between the two. I think
you don't want a Round three with the Rams. Look
at how the Rams ran the ball and passed the
ball up and down the field in that Thursday Night Classic.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
The Rams should have won that game.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I don't think you want the Rams coming back to town.
And this is true of any number one seed who
has division rivals also in the playoffs, and obviously the
Sea Hawks have two in the forty nine Ers in
the Rams.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You don't want to play those teams.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
They are not intimidated by you, they are not afraid
of you, they are not overwhelmed when they come to
your stadium. They go there every year and they would
love nothing more than to be responsible for ending your
magical season.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You don't want it.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
When the Rams looked like they were the number one seed.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I said, man, that's you know.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I don't want to see Hawks of the forty nine
ers showing up in Sofi Stadium in January. That's how
the magic run comes to an end. And now the
tables have turned, and you don't want You don't want
the Rams or the forty nine ers, more so the Rams,
but you know the forty nine ers. I mean they
man handled it on Saturday Night. Do we really think
that happens a second game in a row. I don't
know if Trent Williams would play in a rematch in
(10:52):
the postseason. I wouldn't rule out the forty nine Ers
pulling off the victory division rival. You never know what's
going to happen in that third game. So I want
neither of those teams coming to the century length Lumen
whatever it's called.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Is it Lumen now?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
A name, no Kingdom when they come to the Kingdom.
I wouldn't want to see the forty nine ers in
the risk.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and we will talk
in a week. Appreciate it, Bud.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Are you impressed that I remember the Kingdom?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Very impressed. But you're also old like us, so you
should remember the Kingdom?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, I won't say what although I've seen some very
salty language on TV today. Maybe the standards are changing,
so maybe I can drop an f bumb if I want.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I don't know. I'm confused by the current.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
And if you'll watch this on NBCSN in the morning,
you may hear some salty language, but I won't do
that to you because you're a sec regularly.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, we appreciate that, all right, man, love you.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
We'll talking away, Mike Florio with us rich New heisl
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Speaker 3 (11:48):
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Speaker 2 (11:49):
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It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and repping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
and not to mention, the largest Sonics collection in the world,
check out simply Sattle dot com. Now with Mike Florio.
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick all right here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
He is our friend from Pro Football Talk dot Com,
the NFL on NBCPFT Live, the heavyweight champion, baby of
the NFL Media Press Corps, our friend Michael Florio.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Mike, how are you pal? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Happy New Year, Butthole?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Happy New Year, butthole to you.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Hey, I know we're talking NFL, but you want to
chime in as a guy that covers the sport on
this Demon Williams situation. It's right here, Mike, in our
backyard with the Washington quarterback signed an NIL deal on
Friday and then yesterday announces I don't care, I'm putting
my name in the transfer portal. What do you make
of the current state to college football and this story
(01:01):
happening out here in seattle Man.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
College football is experiencing the chaos it deserves as a
result of decades of exploiting players under this fiction of
the NCAA restricting what the university can legally provide to
players by way of compensation. And think about it, all
of these independent businesses huddled under the NCAA umbrella, and
when it was time to compete for the players who
(01:25):
were going to make more money for the program, all
the teams had to say was sorry, the NCAA rules
don't let us do it. It was a giant anti
trust violation. It has collapsed onto itself, and everything that
happened in the wake of that is on the people
who created and maintained that system for as long as
they did. The reckoning came way too late, but it came,
(01:45):
and everything that happens now is a product not only
of that past corruption, but a refusal, a stubborn refusal
by the schools to do what needs to be done,
starting nationwide union with true collective bargaining, which would put
rules in place that.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Would prevent what happened.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
But they don't want that. They want Congress to wave
a magic wand and give them a pass and give
them and trust exemption so they can go back to
the days when the players were limited in what they
could make. That's not the answer. The answer is true
collective bargaining, but they don't want that because they don't
want to have to answer to a union. They can't
have it both ways. It is on the schools. The
specific cases may look like it's on the players. The
(02:25):
root problem is on the entire industry, the individual schools
and the NCAA.
Speaker 6 (02:31):
Mike the big news in the NFL the last forty
eight hours or so, the eighteen year run in Baltimore's
over for John Harbaugh. There are reports that he lost
the locker room. Is that your understanding? As well as
far as why he was fired.
Speaker 5 (02:44):
I've seen mixed indication. Then, look after a controversial decision
like this is made, there will be individuals with motivations.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
To utilize the media to put out narratives that may
or may not be true.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
The bottom line is, after eighteen years, it was time
for both sides to move on. We saw this all
the things that were said about Mike, Tomlin and Pittsburgh
in the aftermath of the embarrassing loss in December at.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Home to the Bills twenty six to seven.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Those things all applied with equal force to what was
going on in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
It's just time.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
After this long, it's time, and that's what under steved
Bashadi decided. That field goal that was missed, And I
was explaining this to my wife last night because she
was like.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
Then this field goal got him fired.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
Well, yes, but no it did because if he'd made it,
they'd be getting ready for a game next Monday.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Night, so they wouldn't have fired him.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
So yeah, but it was deeper than that, and some
people think that it was ultimately a choice between John
Harbor and Lamar Jackson. I have a feeling that Lamar
Jackson maybe next, depending upon who they hired to be
the coach, what the coach wants, and what Lamar wants.
Based upon the coach they hire, there could be an
effort to trade him.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Not that they'll shop him.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I think they want to be coy about it to
get the best possible trade return.
Speaker 4 (03:59):
But I'm not rolling out just because Harball's gone. I'm
not rolling out that Lamar Jackson's staying.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
How about Pete Carroll After a year getting the whack
with Vegas, His fault, spike Tech's fault, previous regime's fault.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
What do you make of that deal?
Speaker 5 (04:15):
Everybody's fault and Pete's sin in all of this was
allowing his relentless optimism to make him think the Raiders
were better than they were, the moves they made, specifically
bringing in quarterbacks. You know, Smith thinking about Matthew Stafford
not wanting.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
To develop a young quarterback.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Drafting Ashton Jenny with a top ten pick. That's an
icing on the cake move. You have to have the
cake before you go get the icing. They didn't have
the cake. They don't have enough talent. They misevaluated what
their roster was and it's on Pete Carroll for not
recognizing it. It's on John Spytech for making the moves
that were made to try to make the team better.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
And the one guy who has escaped scrutiny so far
for most is Tom Brady. He's an owner.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
That's he was brought in at a reduced rate by
owner Mark Davis to stabilize the football operation, to fill
the void that was created when John Bruden ultimately left
under circumstances that are well documented and in some ways disputed,
but Brady is the right hand man, and now now
Brady's front and center. The statement they issued on Monday
(05:20):
regarding the termination if Pete Carroll said that John Spytech,
in close collaboration with Tom Brady, will lead the football operation.
So Brady's got to decide whether he's going to be
all in or all out. I don't like this halfway
absentee landlord.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
I think the people.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
Who show up and put in the work every day
in any business, they resent nothing more than someone who
is just doing drive by.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Telling them what they're doing wrong.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
To know what's happening, you have to be there, and
Tom Brady's not going to do that because he's not
given up. He's gig with Fox, he's not given up
all the other stuff he does.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
It generates revenue. He tries to make enough.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Money that he can own a team of his own
at some point, which I think is the play. I
don't like it, and I know, oh you hate Tom
Brady's like, no, everybody else is blind to it because
they love Tom Brady. Let's apply the same standard to
him that would apply to anyone else who's trying to
do this halfway ownership of a team running of a
team not fully committed. Matt Ryan, if he gets these
(06:15):
Falcons job as president of football Operations.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
He's going to be all in. He's going to be
there every day. That's the only way to do a
job like that.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
Would Tom Brady have the guts to hire somebody that
currently has a lawsuit going against the NFL in Brian Flores.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
If any team were to hire Brian Flores, it would
be the race. They have a long history of litigation
against the National Football League. And there is a rumor
that's been making the rounds. I heard about it over
the weekend. I haven't heard much talk of it lately,
but you know, this is a time of year where
you don't have to reach high.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
On the tree to find the apples.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
The apples are all over the orchard and you just
got to pick them up and stuff them into the
sack and present them to the consumers as quickly as possible.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
As so much news going on right now.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
But the rumor is basically, Tom I'm Brady a Patriot
waiver union where you bring in guys who learned under
Bill Belichick, the guy that.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Brady learned under as a player.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Brian Flores is available his scheme is good enough to
get him interviews. He's a free agent, So technically they
could hire Brian Daball to be the head coach and
Brian Flores to be the defensive coordinator. But the way
the rumor has gone around, it's Flores as the head
coach and Dave Ball, the former Giants coach and former
Patriots assistant on several different occasions.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Would run the offense. So we'll see how that plays out.
I had someone's day to me today.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Tom Brady may be crazy enough to try to bring
back Josh mcdaaney's because really, if McDaniels didn't have the
failed stint with the Raiders a couple of years ago,
he'd be a top candidate right now for what he's
done with Drake May So, if they think about bringing
in a quarterback with that first overall pick, or maybe
they offer the first overall pick the Ravens for Lamar Jackson,
don't be shocked if something.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Like that happens. But they need somebody to coach.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
The quarterback, and Tom Brady has more faith in Josh
McDaniels than anyone else when it comes to running an offense.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Request Mike to interview Clint Kubiak, You can remind me
he can interview this week.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Is that correct? Because the Hawks of the bye? Is
that right?
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (08:09):
And it's a bad situation. And we talk about this
every year. There should be no interviews of current coaches.
There should be no hiring process at all until the
Super Bowl has ended. He creates a distraction for teams
that are trying to finish the.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Job the right way.
Speaker 5 (08:23):
And this is a narrative that comes up every year,
and the head coaches of the teams that still have
games to play don't like it, because here's the reality.
When you're trying to get a head coaching job. Are
you really focused on your current job when you go home?
And this is the example that I've heard coaches give.
When you go home, if you're married, does your wife say, hey,
(08:43):
how's the preparation coming for your offensive attack.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Against the upcoming opponent? Or does the whites say.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Hey, you hear anything about where we're getting at at Atlanta?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Job?
Speaker 5 (08:54):
What about what about Tennessee? You know, I like the
schools better in Nashville than I do in New York.
Whatever it may be, that becomes the focal point of
the guy's life, and it puts the candidate in a
very difficult situation.
Speaker 4 (09:08):
They need to change it.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
I don't think they ever will, But that said, yeah,
he's a viable candidate. I think it's going to be
hard for guys who don't have head coaching experience to
get hired in this cycle.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
I think teams are going.
Speaker 5 (09:18):
To skew toward guys who have done it before. But
it's undeniable what he's done with Sam Darnold this year
and what he's managed to accomplish with the Seattle offense.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You have the Hawks number one in your power rankings
with the caveat. You said, if they can avoid the Rams,
they'll get back to the Super Bowl. I can read
that one of two ways. I could either say that
you think the Rams will beat the Hawks if they
play the Hawks, or you're just saying the Rams are
the one NFC team that could actually beat the Hawks.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Which are you saying?
Speaker 5 (09:46):
I don't see the difference between the two. I think
you don't want a Round three with the Rams. Look
at how the Rams ran the ball and passed the
ball up and down the field in that Thursday Night Classic.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
The Rams should have won that game.
Speaker 5 (10:01):
I don't think you want the Rams coming back to town.
And this is true of any number one seed who
has division rivals also in the playoffs, and obviously the
Sea Hawks have two in the forty nine Ers in
the Rams.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
You don't want to play those teams.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
They are not intimidated by you, they are not afraid
of you, they are not overwhelmed when they come to
your stadium. They go there every year and they would
love nothing more than to be responsible for ending your
magical season.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
You don't want it.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
When the Rams looked like they were the number one seed.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
I said, man, that's you know.
Speaker 5 (10:31):
I don't want to see Hawks of the forty nine
ers showing up in Sofi Stadium in January. That's how
the magic run comes to an end. And now the
tables have turned, and you don't want You don't want
the Rams or the forty nine ers, more so the Rams,
but you know the forty nine ers. I mean they
man handled it on Saturday Night. Do we really think
that happens a second game in a row. I don't
know if Trent Williams would play in a rematch in
(10:52):
the postseason. I wouldn't rule out the forty nine Ers
pulling off the victory division rival. You never know what's
going to happen in that third game. So I want
neither of those teams coming to the century length Lumen
whatever it's called.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Is it Lumen now?
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:05):
A name, no Kingdom when they come to the Kingdom.
I wouldn't want to see the forty nine ers in
the risk.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Mike, you're the man, great stuff, and we will talk
in a week. Appreciate it, Bud.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
Are you impressed that I remember the Kingdom?
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Very impressed. But you're also old like us, so you
should remember the Kingdom?
Speaker 4 (11:23):
You know.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Well, I won't say what although I've seen some very
salty language on TV today. Maybe the standards are changing,
so maybe I can drop an f bumb if I want.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
I don't know. I'm confused by the current.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
And if you'll watch this on NBCSN in the morning,
you may hear some salty language, but I won't do
that to you because you're a sec regularly.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, we appreciate that, all right, man, love you.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
We'll talking away, Mike Florio with us rich New heisl
de Mine Williams and the portal.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What does jetfish do now?
Speaker 2 (11:49):
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