October 15, 2025 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the coaching situations for the Miami Dolphins and Buffalo Bills right now, the Joe Flacco trade with two AFC North teams, the quarterback situation for the New York Giants, and Arizona.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Each time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
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(00:21):
here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, boys and girls back here at Jimmy's on
First getting ready for Game three of the ALCS. But
lots happening in the NFL, the king of all NFL media,
Pro Football Talk dot Com, the NFL at NBC, and
my good friend Michael Florio with us on the radio program.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But Mike, how are you pal?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Well, well we meet again.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey, listen, I apologize for last week. The game went long.
I thought we could fit you in.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's my fault, and I apologize profusely for making you
hang last week.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Michael. It'll never happen again. How's that?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
You know?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
There's certain frustrations in this job. Sometimes you have player
only meetings and other players there either later they don't
show up.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
At all.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, that's and we appreciate you. You're a professional, Yes,
he is. Those guys are punks, he is, you're a profession.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, let's let's talk about a guy that called out
his teammates the other day and then apologize for it
to a Turgo Biloa after the loss over the weekend,
says guys are late, they're not coming to meetings, they
don't give a damn.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And then Today's says, oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, maybe that's exactly what Miami needed was to a
doing that last week. So tell me about the relationship
between Tua and Mike McDaniel and whose seat is hotter
in Miami, Tua or the coach.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
When I first heard the comments, I thought that possibly
Tua has tried to communicate directly with players and that
didn't work, so he opted to take it public. Aaron Rodgers,
I believe has done that in the past when young
receivers weren't doing what he thought young receivers needed to do.
But then McDaniel followed to and clumsily tried to explain
(02:06):
it away as direct communication. Well, it's not direct communication.
It's indirect communication through the media, and it creates a problem.
By the next day McDaniel had seen and heard what
Tuas said and he acknowledged he.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Shouldn't have done that. That wasn't the time for it.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
But today when tua said what we fully expected him
to say, that he shouldn't have done it, and he
apologized for it. The question that has been obscured by
all of this, who was he talking about?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
We don't know who he was talking about.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And one of the reporters very adroitly asked the question,
who are the leaders on the offensive side of.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
The ball, and he started rattling off names.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So it's not those guys. So if you guys got
exempted indirectly from being responsible for not doing what they
need to do. But other than the guys he named,
any of them, some of them, maybe all of them
are the ones who aren't leading and clearly aren't following.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So there's still an issue there. And answer the hot
seat question.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I think Mike McDaniel was on a very hot seat
right now. I'd say he's the most likely to be
the next to be fired. Two of his contract is
fully guaranteed through next year. They really screwed this up
In twenty twenty four, they ripped up this fifty year
option of twenty three million and change, and they gave
him a three year contract that pays out more than
one hundred and fifty million, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
They had no reason to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Let him play out the option, and if he plays
lights out, franchise tag and if he plays lights out,
tag him again. And all that combined is like one
hundred and ten million, not one hundred and fifty. And
they still would have had him for three years, and
they would have the ability to cut the cord whenever
they wanted to. They blew this, and I think it's
Tom for Steven Ross and hit the reset button and
clear out everyone GM.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Head coach and a new head coach. You know, he
doesn't have to play to it. He has to pay him.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But I think by next year, week one, we're going
to see, or at least we should see new GM,
new coach, new quarterback across the board in Miami and
they'll start over once again.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
So Mike Tomlins, he's very confused as to what Cleveland
was doing trading their starting quarterback to a division arrival.
Does he have a point or is he just kind
of trying to fire up his team by pumping up
Joe Flacco's tires before they face the Bengals tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Well, I think he'd rather face Jake Browning than Joe Flacco.
You know, regular season all time Joe Flacco and Mike
Tomlin are I believe eleven and eleven and Flacco last
year beats the Steelers as the backup for the Colts,
and Tomlin admitted a few weeks ago that he told
his players Keith Anthony Richardson upright because they didn't want
to see Joe Flacco, and it was in the context
(04:33):
of the Vikings starting Carson Wentz over JJ McCarthy. Tomlin
would rather face an inexperienced quarterback. And look at what
he's done against young quarterbacks. His record against young quarterback
is incredible. So I think this is as simple as
he'd rather see Jake Browning and he doesn't agree with
the way the Browns do business.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
And look, the Browns made the decision as a.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Matter of basic analytics. They were able to upgrade a
draft pick. They move on from a player that they
didn't want any longer. Who cares if it goes to
a division arrival. That's the way they look at.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It, Well, I know who cares.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Mike Common cares because now he's got to face a
better quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Hey, Mike Florio's with us on the radio program. Courtesy
is simply Seattle dot com. Be sure and use code
kjar fifteen for fifteen percent off anything on the website.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And Mike, I may be dreaming.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I may be imagining this, but I thought you came
out with your power rankings the other day and I
thought I saw the Hawks in the top ten in
your power rankings.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I believe you had him at number eight.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And good for you, because they're a fumble away from
maybe being a five to one football team. Right now,
it feels like the league is starting to take notice
of the Hawks and Sam Darnold man.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
And look, the NFC is very jumbled with a lot
of good teams. The AFC is jumbled with a lot
of teams that we don't know what they are. And
we want this as fans. We want parody, we want unpredictability,
We want as many teams to be alive as long
as possible to the season. But as somebody who from
Tom to Tom is expected to know what the hell
(06:00):
is going on.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I don't like this confusion.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I mean, there's been like a run of seven of
eight primetime games where.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's been an upset.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So there's reason to watch tomorrow night because hell, maybe
the Bengals will beat the Steelers. Teams are more closely packed.
There is no truly great team. The Bucks at five
and one are number one in the power rankings, and
they are flawed. The Colts at number two, arguably should
be number one because they're the only team that has
dominated lesser opponents. You've got other teams who are just
(06:27):
barely skating by with teams that they should pummel. So
it's packed together tight, and it's going to result in injuries,
bad calls which are good calls for the other team, and.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Just weird bounces to the ball that will determine.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Who gets into the playoffs and ultimately who advances the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Well, you're totally right.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
I mean I counted fifteen teams yesterday. I just looked
at it. I tilt my head a certain way. I
could envision them making the super Bowl. But speaking of
the Super Bowl, Mike, every coach, quarterback combo that has
won at least one Super Bowl together won their first
Super Bowl within the first five years of being together.
This is your eight for McDermott and Josh Allen. Is
(07:07):
Sean McDermott like just Doug Collins or Mark Jackson like
good coaches that can get MJ and Steph Curry a
couple of rounds deep, but they need a Phil Jackson
or Steve Gerr to get a title.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, there's a question in Buffalo that will pray a
lot of nerves.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Within the building when it's raised. Is this a team.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That is sufficiently talented but not effectively coached, or is
this a team that is being coached very well but.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Just isn't very talented.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You know, I was surprised the Bills weren't at the
front of the line to try to get Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I was very surprised. If you're trying to.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Get over the hump, you got to make some bold moves.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And they've resisted.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
In twenty twenty one, Von Miller was available, OBJ was available.
The Rams got them both, and arguably they provided the
difference to winning a Super Bowl. The Bills weren't interested
at the time in either one, so you got to
be ready to make that move.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
To get over the hump, and whether it's talent, whether
it's coaching, you.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Wonder how many more years into Josh Allen's career, ownership
will tolerate being just good enough. And there are teams
out there and I I'll say we wanted in the
super Bowl every single year because they have to say
that for some honors. I think it's just good enough
to be just good enough because the money's the same
whether you win the Super Bowl or not. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, Mike Florio's with us, and Mike going back to
last Thursday's game with the Giants and Eagles, and you know,
the Jackson Dart thing. Look good for him, he looks fine.
But what I was kind of taken aback by is
the reaction that people had to Russell Wilson entering the
game last Thursday, and not just the fans, but Dabile
could not wait to get his ass off the field,
(08:45):
goes into the medical tent to try to get Jackson darts.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That was no good.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Kirk kurb Street on TV is even kind of like, man,
they got to get him out of there. I mean,
it's amazing, Mike, what's happened to Russell Wilson? It's like
he walked into the wrong bathroom and people were just
killing him on Thursday night in New York.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
How far has Russell Wilson fallen since he left Seattle?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Find that urgency by day Ball that may result in
a massive fine, possibly the loss of a draft pick.
Because da boll entered the mouth of the medical tent,
camp Scatta who actually went inside. Both are violations, both
are under investigation, and it was because, as Dave All
said after the game, we had a fourth down coming
up and if he was coming back in the game,
I was going to go for it, which means there's
no way in hell I'm going for it if.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The other guy is out there.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
But they saw just enough of Russell Wilson for the
first three weeks of the season to know that he just.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Doesn't have it anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
And how emasculating and humiliating for a very proud guy
like Russell Wilson. I'm surprised he hasn't demanded to be traded.
I mean, if I'm the Bengals, I make the play
for him, not Joe Flacco. But this is where we
are and we'll see what the punishment is for the Giants.
They got to get Jackson Dark to play a little
more within himself, though he did that launch on the
(09:55):
sideline at.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
One point last Thursday night. You got to stay healthy.
Your most important a as.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
A potential franchise quarterback is availability. You can't be putting
yourself at risk for a random yard here or there.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
How about the sideline incident that happened last week. Your
take on the Jonathan gannon physical contact on Amri de
Mercado and then the fine that he got subsequently, Was
it warranted?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think it's absolutely warranted.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
There's the line you can't cross, and I know it's
a physical sport, but the coaches aren't exerting physicality. They're
on the sideline, and the way he approached him, it
was obvious from the angle that was available, even though
it was behind de Marcado and a teammate who was
consoling him, you could see contacts being made and then
there's a big kind of slap on the arm.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
As gann and walked away.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It's just uncalled for, and kudos to the Cardinals for
doing what they did. I think the league would have
done something, the Union would have insisted on it. If
the Cardinals hadn't imposed that. Fine, it's just the line
you cannot cross. And you know, it was fifty years
ago this football season that I was a ten year
old playing fifth grade foot ball at a grade school,
(11:02):
Catholic grade school in the town where I grew up.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And back then, man, if you were.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Standing around, you got the coaches foot up your ass, right,
and you got dragged around by your face mask. And
I mean, I still remember stuff like that, and in
some ways it fuels me and in some ways.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
It haunts me.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
But you just can't do that anymore to any athlete,
whatever the sport is, you can't lay hands on people.
And and Dannon probably knew that De Marcado would take it,
because if you mess with the wrong guy, you're gonna
get Latrell's free well, and you just wonder going forward
how that settles in in the locker room and how
(11:35):
the players view again and after he essentially bullied De Marcado, I.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Really hope our friend PJ. Carlismo is not listening right now.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
By the way, Hey Mike, you're the man, great stuff,
and we're talking a week see you, buddy.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Unless you don't call. I mean, we'll talk in a
week after its gonna I think we need to do that.
From now on, we're.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Gonna calle Mike Florio with us. We're gonna break all right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
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Speaker 3 (11:59):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
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(00:21):
here's Softy and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, boys and girls back here at Jimmy's on
First getting ready for Game three of the ALCS. But
lots happening in the NFL, the king of all NFL media,
Pro Football Talk dot Com, the NFL at NBC, and
my good friend Michael Florio with us on the radio program.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
But Mike, how are you pal?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well?
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Well, well we meet again.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hey, listen, I apologize for last week. The game went long.
I thought we could fit you in.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
We didn't.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's my fault, and I apologize profusely for making you
hang last week.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Michael. It'll never happen again. How's that?
Speaker 4 (01:03):
You know?
Speaker 5 (01:03):
There's certain frustrations in this job. Sometimes you have player
only meetings and other players there either later they don't
show up.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
At all.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, that's and we appreciate you. You're a professional, Yes,
he is. Those guys are punks, he is, you're a profession.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, let's let's talk about a guy that called out
his teammates the other day and then apologize for it
to a Turgo Biloa after the loss over the weekend,
says guys are late, they're not coming to meetings, they
don't give a damn.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
And then Today's says, oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Well, maybe that's exactly what Miami needed was to a
doing that last week. So tell me about the relationship
between Tua and Mike McDaniel and whose seat is hotter
in Miami, Tua or the coach.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
When I first heard the comments, I thought that possibly
Tua has tried to communicate directly with players and that
didn't work, so he opted to take it public. Aaron Rodgers,
I believe has done that in the past when young
receivers weren't doing what he thought young receivers needed to do.
But then McDaniel followed to and clumsily tried to explain
(02:06):
it away as direct communication. Well, it's not direct communication.
It's indirect communication through the media, and it creates a problem.
By the next day McDaniel had seen and heard what
Tuas said and he acknowledged he.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
Shouldn't have done that. That wasn't the time for it.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
But today when tua said what we fully expected him
to say, that he shouldn't have done it, and he
apologized for it. The question that has been obscured by
all of this, who was he talking about?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
We don't know who he was talking about.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
And one of the reporters very adroitly asked the question,
who are the leaders on the offensive side of.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
The ball, and he started rattling off names.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
So it's not those guys. So if you guys got
exempted indirectly from being responsible for not doing what they
need to do. But other than the guys he named,
any of them, some of them, maybe all of them
are the ones who aren't leading and clearly aren't following.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
So there's still an issue there. And answer the hot
seat question.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
I think Mike McDaniel was on a very hot seat
right now. I'd say he's the most likely to be
the next to be fired. Two of his contract is
fully guaranteed through next year. They really screwed this up
In twenty twenty four, they ripped up this fifty year
option of twenty three million and change, and they gave
him a three year contract that pays out more than
one hundred and fifty million, fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
They had no reason to do that.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Let him play out the option, and if he plays
lights out, franchise tag and if he plays lights out,
tag him again. And all that combined is like one
hundred and ten million, not one hundred and fifty. And
they still would have had him for three years, and
they would have the ability to cut the cord whenever
they wanted to. They blew this, and I think it's
Tom for Steven Ross and hit the reset button and
clear out everyone GM.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
Head coach and a new head coach. You know, he
doesn't have to play to it. He has to pay him.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
But I think by next year, week one, we're going
to see, or at least we should see new GM,
new coach, new quarterback across the board in Miami and
they'll start over once again.
Speaker 6 (03:59):
So Mike Tomlins, he's very confused as to what Cleveland
was doing trading their starting quarterback to a division arrival.
Does he have a point or is he just kind
of trying to fire up his team by pumping up
Joe Flacco's tires before they face the Bengals tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (04:12):
Well, I think he'd rather face Jake Browning than Joe Flacco.
You know, regular season all time Joe Flacco and Mike
Tomlin are I believe eleven and eleven and Flacco last
year beats the Steelers as the backup for the Colts,
and Tomlin admitted a few weeks ago that he told
his players Keith Anthony Richardson upright because they didn't want
to see Joe Flacco, and it was in the context
(04:33):
of the Vikings starting Carson Wentz over JJ McCarthy. Tomlin
would rather face an inexperienced quarterback. And look at what
he's done against young quarterbacks. His record against young quarterback
is incredible. So I think this is as simple as
he'd rather see Jake Browning and he doesn't agree with
the way the Browns do business.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
And look, the Browns made the decision as a.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
Matter of basic analytics. They were able to upgrade a
draft pick. They move on from a player that they
didn't want any longer. Who cares if it goes to
a division arrival. That's the way they look at.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It, Well, I know who cares.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Mike Common cares because now he's got to face a
better quarterback for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Hey, Mike Florio's with us on the radio program. Courtesy
is simply Seattle dot com. Be sure and use code
kjar fifteen for fifteen percent off anything on the website.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
And Mike, I may be dreaming.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
I may be imagining this, but I thought you came
out with your power rankings the other day and I
thought I saw the Hawks in the top ten in
your power rankings.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
I believe you had him at number eight.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
And good for you, because they're a fumble away from
maybe being a five to one football team. Right now,
it feels like the league is starting to take notice
of the Hawks and Sam Darnold man.
Speaker 5 (05:39):
And look, the NFC is very jumbled with a lot
of good teams. The AFC is jumbled with a lot
of teams that we don't know what they are. And
we want this as fans. We want parody, we want unpredictability,
We want as many teams to be alive as long
as possible to the season. But as somebody who from
Tom to Tom is expected to know what the hell
(06:00):
is going on.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
I don't like this confusion.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
I mean, there's been like a run of seven of
eight primetime games where.
Speaker 4 (06:05):
It's been an upset.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So there's reason to watch tomorrow night because hell, maybe
the Bengals will beat the Steelers. Teams are more closely packed.
There is no truly great team. The Bucks at five
and one are number one in the power rankings, and
they are flawed. The Colts at number two, arguably should
be number one because they're the only team that has
dominated lesser opponents. You've got other teams who are just
(06:27):
barely skating by with teams that they should pummel. So
it's packed together tight, and it's going to result in injuries,
bad calls which are good calls for the other team, and.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Just weird bounces to the ball that will determine.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Who gets into the playoffs and ultimately who advances the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Well, you're totally right.
Speaker 6 (06:46):
I mean I counted fifteen teams yesterday. I just looked
at it. I tilt my head a certain way. I
could envision them making the super Bowl. But speaking of
the Super Bowl, Mike, every coach, quarterback combo that has
won at least one Super Bowl together won their first
Super Bowl within the first five years of being together.
This is your eight for McDermott and Josh Allen. Is
(07:07):
Sean McDermott like just Doug Collins or Mark Jackson like
good coaches that can get MJ and Steph Curry a
couple of rounds deep, but they need a Phil Jackson
or Steve Gerr to get a title.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Well, there's a question in Buffalo that will pray a
lot of nerves.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Within the building when it's raised. Is this a team.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
That is sufficiently talented but not effectively coached, or is
this a team that is being coached very well but.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
Just isn't very talented.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
You know, I was surprised the Bills weren't at the
front of the line to try to get Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
I was very surprised. If you're trying to.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Get over the hump, you got to make some bold moves.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
And they've resisted.
Speaker 5 (07:45):
In twenty twenty one, Von Miller was available, OBJ was available.
The Rams got them both, and arguably they provided the
difference to winning a Super Bowl. The Bills weren't interested
at the time in either one, so you got to
be ready to make that move.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
To get over the hump, and whether it's talent, whether
it's coaching, you.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
Wonder how many more years into Josh Allen's career, ownership
will tolerate being just good enough. And there are teams
out there and I I'll say we wanted in the
super Bowl every single year because they have to say
that for some honors. I think it's just good enough
to be just good enough because the money's the same
whether you win the Super Bowl or not. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Well, Mike Florio's with us, and Mike going back to
last Thursday's game with the Giants and Eagles, and you know,
the Jackson Dart thing. Look good for him, he looks fine.
But what I was kind of taken aback by is
the reaction that people had to Russell Wilson entering the
game last Thursday, and not just the fans, but Dabile
could not wait to get his ass off the field,
(08:45):
goes into the medical tent to try to get Jackson darts.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That was no good.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Kirk kurb Street on TV is even kind of like, man,
they got to get him out of there. I mean,
it's amazing, Mike, what's happened to Russell Wilson? It's like
he walked into the wrong bathroom and people were just
killing him on Thursday night in New York.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
How far has Russell Wilson fallen since he left Seattle?
Speaker 5 (09:04):
Find that urgency by day Ball that may result in
a massive fine, possibly the loss of a draft pick.
Because da boll entered the mouth of the medical tent,
camp Scatta who actually went inside. Both are violations, both
are under investigation, and it was because, as Dave All
said after the game, we had a fourth down coming
up and if he was coming back in the game,
I was going to go for it, which means there's
no way in hell I'm going for it if.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The other guy is out there.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
But they saw just enough of Russell Wilson for the
first three weeks of the season to know that he just.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Doesn't have it anymore.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
And how emasculating and humiliating for a very proud guy
like Russell Wilson. I'm surprised he hasn't demanded to be traded.
I mean, if I'm the Bengals, I make the play
for him, not Joe Flacco. But this is where we
are and we'll see what the punishment is for the Giants.
They got to get Jackson Dark to play a little
more within himself, though he did that launch on the
(09:55):
sideline at.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
One point last Thursday night. You got to stay healthy.
Your most important a as.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
A potential franchise quarterback is availability. You can't be putting
yourself at risk for a random yard here or there.
Speaker 6 (10:08):
How about the sideline incident that happened last week. Your
take on the Jonathan gannon physical contact on Amri de
Mercado and then the fine that he got subsequently, Was
it warranted?
Speaker 4 (10:20):
I think it's absolutely warranted.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
There's the line you can't cross, and I know it's
a physical sport, but the coaches aren't exerting physicality. They're
on the sideline, and the way he approached him, it
was obvious from the angle that was available, even though
it was behind de Marcado and a teammate who was
consoling him, you could see contacts being made and then
there's a big kind of slap on the arm.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
As gann and walked away.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It's just uncalled for, and kudos to the Cardinals for
doing what they did. I think the league would have
done something, the Union would have insisted on it. If
the Cardinals hadn't imposed that. Fine, it's just the line
you cannot cross. And you know, it was fifty years
ago this football season that I was a ten year
old playing fifth grade foot ball at a grade school,
(11:02):
Catholic grade school in the town where I grew up.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
And back then, man, if you were.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
Standing around, you got the coaches foot up your ass, right,
and you got dragged around by your face mask. And
I mean, I still remember stuff like that, and in
some ways it fuels me and in some ways.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
It haunts me.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
But you just can't do that anymore to any athlete,
whatever the sport is, you can't lay hands on people.
And and Dannon probably knew that De Marcado would take it,
because if you mess with the wrong guy, you're gonna
get Latrell's free well, and you just wonder going forward
how that settles in in the locker room and how
(11:35):
the players view again and after he essentially bullied De Marcado, I.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Really hope our friend PJ. Carlismo is not listening right now.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
By the way, Hey Mike, you're the man, great stuff,
and we're talking a week see you, buddy.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Unless you don't call. I mean, we'll talk in a
week after its gonna I think we need to do that.
From now on, we're.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Gonna calle Mike Florio with us. We're gonna break all right.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Factor fiction brought to you by the Lucky Ego, Casino
and Hotel.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Now here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Jackson Felts typically will make the pick today, and he's been,
let's face it, sucking ass on the radio. I have
a theory on why he should keep going, and I will
share it with you NEXTY three three K j R
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