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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
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here's Softie and Dick.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, boys and girls, there we go back here
at Jimmy's on first and before he says anything, Yes,
my voice sounds terrible. I went to Greece and I
came back sounding like Mark Simpson. I get it. But
here he is from Pro Football Talk dot Com, the
NFL on NBC. My friend, the king of all NFL
media courtesy is Simply Seattle. Michael Florio, How are.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
You, palam good? I've got three observations. Number one, it's
an improvement.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Here we go.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Number two, you kind of sound like the God's Father.
But number three there's a twist of Peter Brady with
his voice changing in there. If you remember that classic
episode I know myself, but Peter Brady screwed up the
track that the Brady six were gonna lay down because
his voice was changing, because I had to rework the song,
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and the new song was based upon the fact that
there is for all of us a time to change,
which is a perfect flip side two, We're all going
to die. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, look, I mean, as Dick said, everybody wants to
know what a thirteen year old softy sounded like. And
here you go. You're getting a little bit of a
preview right now. The Micah Parsons situation saying he's not
gonna hold out, he will be at camp. Does this
mean that Micah Parkson's saga is over or is there
more to come?
Speaker 3 (01:38):
In your opinion, Well, let's be clear about what he said.
He said he'd be at the mandatory mini camp as
the training camp. He said that's up to ownership, and
that would track with what Eekio Elliott did six years ago.
Cowboys running back showed up for mandatory mini camp, did
not show up for training camp, held out late into
the process. Wasn't really the same guy in twenty nineteen
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that he wasn't twenty eighteen. And that's the DMO for
the Cowboys. They drag their feet and they drag their feet,
and they drag their feet some more. It never gets cheaper.
There's no strategy at play here other than it guarantees
it's cowboys and their latest star player who's it's not
a second contract. Is the top story on radio stations
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throughout the country, including in Seattle, where it should be
the last thing you're concerned about, But it's the first
thing because it's the Cowboys, and it's a weird situation
involving the cowboys, and it makes no sense other than
it advances the fairly obvious agenda. They have to be
talked about as much as possible, and in that regard,
they win. As it relates to getting to the NFC
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Championship game for twenty nine years in counting, they lose.
Speaker 4 (02:48):
Mike. We saw example number ten five and seventy six
of Mountain out of a Mole Hill in OTAs when
Sam Darnold throws two interceptions, and then the question was
asked if there would be so potentially some sort of
quarterback battle, but you don't necessarily think that question was
crazy to ask if Sam Donald will be the starter
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in game one, why do you think that?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
And the question was is there any scenario other than
injury that would prevent Sam Donald from being the Week
one starter, and Mike McDonald said, it's a crazy question.
It's not a crazy question when you consider what happened
in twenty twelve, when Matt Flynn was the big free
agent acquisition, when Russell Wilson was the third round developmental
quarterback the team drafted, when John Schneider was still the
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GM of the organization, and on the field barre and square,
Russell Wilson was the better option. People said, oh, Pete
Carroll was so brave to go with Russell Wilson. Not
the brave slash dumb move would have been to go
with Matt Flynn because everybody knew Russell Wilson was better.
Why are we slamming the door on the possibility that
either Drew Locker Jalen Morroll could be better than Sam Donald.
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Donald had no real competition last year in Minnesota, the
alternative Nick Mullins and Brett Rippon. He was the starter,
wired a wire. He had some rough stretches where he
didn't have to worry about getting benched if he continued
for our receptions like he did in Jacksonville. Because they
had Nick Mullins and Brett Rippon as the alternative. So
I think Mike McDonald said what he needed to say
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because they know they don't want to put too much
pressure on Sam Donald. They don't want him to think
that if he makes a mistake, that could lead to
another mistake that could lead to the mistake that gets
him benched. All because of this week eighteen. Look at
what happened him against the Lions, biggest game of his life,
and he got the yips. He miss passes, he made
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bad decisions. Vikings could have won that game. Vikings could
have been up early in that game. Two opportunities in
the red zone, no points because Donald was missing guys
who were open. So I think they're very sensitive to
the perception from Donald's perspective that if he's not the guy,
he might think too much about the stakes. And they
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also have a vested interest in him winning that job
because they said goodbye to Gino Smith. They deliberately didn't
want to pay him. At the end of the day,
he's not getting a whole lot more than Sam Donald,
but they often take the third round pick and move
forward and pay Donald. They need Donald to pay offer.
It's going to look like they wasted that money. So
I understand why McDonald said what he said. I disagree
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that it's crazy. It's not crazy. Maybe it would be
crazy for McDonald to acknowledge those questions because that could
be the first domino that leads to Sam Donald tripping
over his feet and not being the starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Well, I didn't know that you had that opinion, By
the way, I said the same thing to Ian Vanessen
cross Talk, that I didn't think it was that crazy
a question for exactly the reasons that you just brought up.
So great Mike, then.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
I changed my mind. I mean, Mike exact, if you
want to go that way, something is desperately wrong with
my brain.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
What about what about this thing that we've talked about,
Mike and Mike Florio with us courtesy is simply Seattle
and Mike Verrell. I think Dick wrote about it in
the paper today and that you know, Vegas thinks the
Seahawks are taking a step back. There under on wins
is what seven and a half I think it is
right now, and Dick and I both feel like that
number is way too low. Do you think this team
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takes a step back this year?
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Well, I mean, first of all, the Vegas betting odds
for over under is driven by who's betting on whom,
and if the betting public is kicking against the Seahawks
and the forty nine Ers have emerged its betting favorite
for the division champion, and there's a way that things
fall together where the forty nine Ers, who have a
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very easy schedule this year, if they get their guys
healthy and they can kind of get back to where
they were a couple of years ago, they could the
wire to wire best in division. They could be the
number one seed in the NFC. I think the Seahawks
are just kind of an unknown quantity at this point,
mainly on offense. Defensively, they got the chance to be
pretty good. But if you don't have it going offensively,
who knows, and there's risks there. Deliberate calculated risk and
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pivoting from Geno Smith to Sam Darnold, deliberate calculated risk
and trading dk Metcalf filling the position with Cooper Cupp
who may or may not have his best days in
the rearview mirror. I mean, this is a hell of
a bet that was made by the Rams and the
Seahawks the Rams are betting the Cooper Cup's done. The
Seahawks are betting that he is. And I mean, how
at the end of the day, the Rams didn't go
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younger and cheaper than Cup. They went older and more expensive.
That's their view of where Cooper Cup currently is. So
that's part of the roll of the dice. There are
multiple roles of the dice that Seahawks are making, and
we see it every year. For some teams, they hit
seven seven seven. If seven is good, sometimes it's good,
sometimes it's not, but it's good. It's good.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
It's good.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
They win, they win, they win, and the next thing
you know, they're good enough to make it for the
playoffs and it plays out one week at a time,
and nobody knows what's going to happen. Injuries are a factor,
but there's a lot of variables here that could skew
one way or the other. For the Seahawks. I could
see them being bad. I could see them being competitive.
And that's the thing about two hundred and seventy two
regular season games, barring tie, there's gonna be a winner,
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there's gonna be a loser, and there's gonna be good
teams and there's gonna be bad teams. And that's what
makes it hard to do like preseason power rankings, because
the fans have the teams that are picked to be
logan indignant. But it's like, folks, we know it happens
every year. There's gonna be bad teams. That's the way
it goes.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I just think when you have a defense that's this solid.
I mean, Devin Witherspoon came out yesterday says we're chasing
to be the number one defense in the league, and
I don't think that's necessarily preposterous.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
I mean, Hughstone a big breakdown for if your offense
isn't any good, you can't have the best defense in
the league. If your offense isn't any good.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
If you played conservative and you win games or lose
games seventeen to thirteen, then your defense is going to
be pretty good.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Scoring wise, Well, it all comes down to how good
your offense is. If your offense is a disaster, it's
impossible to have a great defense. But I'm not saying
you have to have a hot, flying offense. You just
have a con need to have a confident offense. You
have a running game, and you have running backs who
can move the chains without getting injured, and they still
are looking for a guy who can consistently stay healthy
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post Marshawn Lynch. I don't know what it is that
every running back that starts to develop that glow of
he could be the guy can't stay healthy. And I
know that injuries happen, and it's a brutal sport and
it takes more courage than you know in their pinky
than I have in my entire being. But guys get
injured playing running back, and the Seahawks achilles heel has
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been since Marshawn Lynch. Can't find that guy who can
just constantly pound and pound and move the chain, and
that would be a great compliment this year. Kenneth Walker
can play on a regular basis and play well on
a regular basis. That's an ingredient to have kind of
a grinded out, defense driven team that just wins and
wins and wins, and next thing you know, they're in
the postseason. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Well, the Titans had the second best total defense in
football year ago and they won three games because their
offense was terrible. I don't know how many pick sixes
they threw were fumbled for touchdowns they had, but we've
like the two thousand other sort of the ninety two Seahawks,
right had that phenomenal defense and just couldn't do anything
on the offensive side of the ball. But like Florio's
with us again from Pro Football, Talk to the NFL
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on NBC, Talk to us about this conversation about small
markets and the National Football League. Adam Silver's going around
the commission or the NBA Mike and saying, Hey, nobody
complains when it's Kansas City in Green Bay or Kansas
City in Buffalo in the AFC Championship. But you guys,
you're bitching about Oklahoma City in Indiana. Why does that
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work in the NFL but not in the.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
NBA Because the NFL has transcended market size. The Super
Bowl is the ultimate American sporting event. It draws in
millions upon millions. It draws in people who don't follow
football on a regular basis that New York LA big team,
big market, exciting team. Whatever, it doesn't apply, the Super
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Bowl is always the Super Bowl. It could be Jacksonville
and Carolina in the Super Bowl this year and it
would still set a record for the highest viewership ever
because every year, those teams that become championship caliber, they
are forged through week after week of playing games, winning games,
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they get that low. You know, Chris Imjy used to
hate the Bengals uniforms. Well, in twenty twenty one, they
start winning and winning and winning. All of a sudden,
those uniforms look a lot better. That team looks a
lot better. So I think all those factors in the
NFL make it impervious to question of how big the
market is for the two teams that end up in
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well for them where the NBA cuts their nose off
to spite their face because they only show like seven
or eight teams every year on national TV all the
year long, and man twenty four teams go completely obscured.
Final second with Mike Florio, what becomes of Stefan Diggs
and his contract after the physical that I don't believe
we know the results of, and his boat trip with
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the pink substance he was seen.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
With, Well, this was I think jarring. Over the weekend
on Scott Zolak, who's been working for the Patriots radio
network for years, said he's heard that it's on the
table to possibly cut Stefon Digg. I got a contract.
I poured through it. There's a critical clause in there
about a physical before he's entitled the signing bonus, about
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any injury to his knee that had the torn ACL
last year. If that happens, it invalidates future guarantees. And
the Patriots won't say whether or not he passed the physical.
I heard from a GM earlier who thinks the mere
fact that he was on the practice field, even if
it was only individual drill, that means he's passed that physical.
I don't know why the Patriots won't come out and
say he's passed that physical, But that physical is key,
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because that's their one escape hatch if they decide this
just isn't working with Stefawn Diggs, and the doctor who
works for us and would like to continue working for
us can be told in fairly discrete terms, you'll fail
him on that physical and we'll just move on. But
there are people throughout the NFL right now who currently
believe that, not throughout, but at least one person who
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has been a GM for a significant period of time
believes that if he's on the field practicing, he had
to have passed that physical.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Michael, great stuff. Appreciate you hanging with us through difficult circuits.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
Rose hips and flavonoids and honey, and rest your voice.
Your wife will be happy if you say nothing for
like five days at home.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think the audience would love that as well. All Right,
we'll talking a weak buddy, see you well. All right,
Mike Florial with us, this Darnold versus Milroe thing, this
question that was asked. We want to debate that a
little bit. Did you guys talk about that? Did you next?
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