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April 22, 2025 • 11 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the NFL Draft starting in two days, including possible trades by the Cowboys, if the 49ers will trade Brock Purdy, if the Browns will trade the second pick, Kirk Cousins, and the Steelers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
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check out simply Sattle dot Com. That was Mike Florio.

(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, boys and girls back here at Husky Stadia.
How lucky are we to have this guy joining us
on the Tuesday before the NFL Draft. Lesser reporters, lesser
med would say, take a hikes, scumbag, I'll see you
when the draft is over. But no, Mike Florio just
shows his dedication is loyalty to this industry and this
radio program in this station by sticking with his commitments

(00:43):
and joining us here on the Tuesday before the NFL Draft.
Curtesy of simply Sattle dot Com, Michael, how are you pelt?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
Yeah, bus, I finally got a check today.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, good for you.

Speaker 4 (00:53):
That's why it came on.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It was really up in the air this morning. I
don't know, man. He checked the mail in West Virginia.
Boom check, I'll be there. We're glad we got.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
To take back at the hour.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Like is that right out of a heartbreak or something.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I like punctuality.

Speaker 5 (01:07):
I like not having to listen to you too till
like three minutes before you play the music and bring
me on.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I like to starting segment.

Speaker 5 (01:12):
This is good.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
See, that's why we can't fire Jackson Felts because he
does the dirty work and make sure that we follow
the clock here. He is underpaid and he is underappreciated. Buddy.
But Mike Florio's with us from Pro Football Talk are
here we go. Man draft is two days away. Jerry
Jones says, the Cowboys are working on a substantial trade.
What is he talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Two of them?

Speaker 5 (01:34):
He's working on two substantive trades. And I don't know
what substantive means. I'm not sure he knows what it means.
It means whatever he wants it to mean, just like
all in means whatever he wants it to mean. But
he's a master of generating interest in his team, and
this is a great way to do it. Step right up,
ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages
and see what the great Carnival Barker has in store.

(01:56):
Will he make a trade, will he not make a trade?
Will it be before the draft? Will it be after
the draft?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Who knows?

Speaker 5 (02:00):
And I guess in theory, he's technically accurate. If he
makes a trade at any time in the future, it
will be before or after the draft.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
So score one per Jerry Jones.

Speaker 4 (02:12):
I'm in lockstep with your partner, Chris Simms. He thinks
the San Francisco forty nine ers should trade brock Purty,
who not signed brock Purty to a big contract. I
was a little surprised to see him at the offseason workout.
Were you, and what do you think of your partner
Chris's idea?

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Well, I wasn't surprised that he was at the off
season workout because the reality for brock Purty is, in
order to maintain his leverage, he needs to be ready
for each and every season this season order to do
to make five point.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
Three million next year.

Speaker 5 (02:41):
If he would be franchise tag the year after, he
would be tagged a second time.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And when you do the math on what he would.

Speaker 5 (02:47):
Make over the next three years, Let's assume the franchise
tag goes up to forty three million next year, You're.

Speaker 3 (02:53):
Looking at forty eight the next two seasons, and.

Speaker 5 (02:56):
Then it would be a twenty percent increase over forty
three million, which would be what would that be I'm
not good at math. It would be another eight not
let's say it's fifty million. You're looking at a total
of like.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Ninety eight million over three years for brock Purty.

Speaker 5 (03:13):
Well, if you're gonna pay Hi fifty million year, you're
gonna pay him ninety eight million in two years. So
I just think that there's the fundamental question of whether
or not you're going to blow out the market for
a guy that isn't a top five quarterback and might
never be a top five quarterback. He's not Burrow, Mahomes,
Jackson Allen, but you could argue he's as good as

(03:36):
Trevor Lawrence, who's up at the top of the market.
And I think the key to remember is this, with
only five point three million due this year, there's a
way to do a long term deal with a new
money average that sounds really impressive, but the real contract
won't be that impressive, And there may be some safeguards
in there, some protections for.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
The forty nine ors.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
So if he does regrets or doesn't hit whatever ceiling
he thinks he's gonna hit, they can get out of
it after a couple of years. That's really the key.
When the final deal's done. How much is fully guaranteed?
How many years are they.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Tied to him?

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Is it two years like some are, is it three
years like a Tuatoga Iloa is or is it one
year like Sam Donald in Seattle.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
That's going to be the key.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
What's the extent of the commitment the forty nine ers
are making.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Mike Florio with us, who is committed baby to this
radio show as long as the paychecks show up? So Titans,
I guess took some calls, but they say no, we'll
stick with cam Ward and number one. Do the Browns
and Giants both make their selections at two and three
on Thursday?

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I think, well, nobody.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Knows at this point. They're taking calls, and look, it's
only news when a team isn't taking calls. There's always
calls may all the time. That's what general managers do.
They justify their existence in part by constantly getting an
idea of what the market is, what is available, what
are they looking for. If you're talking to a different
team about a trade, you want to know what the
parameters are for another team.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
You just want to know.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
The more you know about what's going on and what
the various teams are hoping to get and what cause
them to move, the better you understand the overall draft process.
So the Browns, I believe, should be willing to trade
down because I think that each draft pick is a
lot of reticket and the Browns need multiple lot of
retickets that are going to pan out to try to
turn this team around, especially as they continue to deal
with the big cap numbers from the Deshaun Watson contract

(05:18):
and the big cap numbers are gonna have to be
dealing with with the Miles Garrett.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Deeale into the future.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
I think it would makes sense unless they're damn sure
they're getting a generational talent, a transformational figure at number
two in either Travis Hunter or Abdua Carter.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
And for the Giants, like, I don't know what the
Giants are gonna do, I'm not sure.

Speaker 5 (05:33):
And both teams, both teams got their spot in the
draft because they're not good, And one of the reasons they're.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Not good is because both teams have been dysfunctional.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
The Browns have been more more spectacularly dysfunctional in recent
years with the Watson trade. But the Giants, I mean,
somehow they've managed to win two Super Bowls this century
when it's like it's really up with this team.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
It's a revolving door every few years.

Speaker 5 (05:56):
The owner can't make a full long term commitment to anyone.
So I don't know what the Giants are thinking, but
they have to at least consider what they could get
if they would move out of that spot, because they,
like the Browns, have multiple needs that one guy isn't
going to fill.

Speaker 4 (06:11):
Mike. I saw a report where they said the Falcons
want a new team to pay twenty million dollars of
Kirk Cousins contract if they were to send him away.
Did you get confirmation on that? And you think they'll
ever get somebody to pay twenty million dollars of his contract?

Speaker 3 (06:27):
Well, Schefter reported it. I don't have any reason to
doubt it. The thing that's stunning to me is that if.

Speaker 5 (06:33):
A new team is going to pay twenty that means
the Falcons are paying seventeen point five. That's really the
headline here.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
I thought the Falcons.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
If they would find a trade partner for Kirk Cousins,
then he would waive his no trade clause. I thought
they would be able to trade his contract because for
a starting quarterback, if that's what he's going to be
somewhere else, twenty seventy five, isn't.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
That bad of a deal?

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Right?

Speaker 5 (06:56):
Well, now that the musical chairs have played out, and
now that Aaron Rodgers come out and said I'll take
ten millions, right, I think Roger's saying I'll take ten million,
that becomes, as reported by Schefter, a desire by the
Vikings and the Steelers to pay ten million for Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
So I am baffled.

Speaker 6 (07:22):
By all of this because Carsins has to be willing
to waive his no trade clause. And if he's not
going to be paid like a starter by a new team,
does that mean he's a starter? And why would you
wave your no trade clause if you're not going to
be a starter.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Just stay close to your wife's family in Atlanta and wait,
And I think that's ultimately the.

Speaker 3 (07:41):
Best approach here for everyone.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Let's just wait, because right now the Falcons and Cousins
don't have leverage as a starting quarterback with another team
suffers a season ending injury, all of a sudden, here
comes the leverage and then thru it all, You've got
a pretty good insurance policy and Kirk Cousins in the
event that Michael Pennick Jr.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
Ufers an injury.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
So I'm just surprised by all of this because I
think the vibe in March as free agency approached was
that if Kirk Cousins was available, ah, somebody would at
least pay in twenty seven and a half million. And
now they're trying to pay only ten million of the
thirty seven and a half million to du over the
next two years. I just think it's all very surprising
and unexpected, and I think the Falcons are gonna get
stuck right in a big check to this guy on

(08:22):
top of the sixty two to five they've already paid him.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Well, I just can't imagine Mike Florio again. Pro Football
Talk dot Com courtesy is simply Seattle dot Com is
with us on the AAR, and I said this yesterday
that I just can't imagine the Steelers trading for DK
Metcalfe and letting Mason Rudolph throw the guy the football,
and they got George Pickens, and that's a pretty lethal
combo with a twenty four year old Joe Pickens and
DK Metcalfin. They're gonna let Mason Rudolph toss those guys

(08:47):
the ball. What kind of odds would you put on
Mason r Rudolph starting Week one for Pittsburgh this year.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Well, I feel like the Steelers have miscalculated everything here.
They I believe, thought they were going to get and
Fields on the cheap. He ends up going to the
Jets for twenty million a year, which once upon a
time was top of the market, but now he until
Russell Wilson signed with the Giants, Fields was the lowest
paid non rookie contract quarterback in the NFL. So I

(09:14):
think they blew that when this Aaron Rodgers thing. He's
been just a weird experience for the Steelers, who typically
aren't a team that will bend to knee and stay
and wait. They proposed, and they're waiting and waiting and
waiting to find out whether or not.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
He's going to accept their proposal. It's just odd for
the Steelers and it could cause.

Speaker 5 (09:33):
Them to overdraft a quarterback, but they're three years removed
from the Kenny Pickett to Battle where pickets fell to
them at around twenty one to twenty two. They took
him and that didn't work out. So I don't know
what they're going to do and would they really truly
go forward with Mason Rudolph. I find that hard to believe,
especially in an offseason where they made this bold move

(09:54):
to get DK Metcalf and pay them all that money.
You need somebody to even feel good about getting the
ball to him.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
And they can say all.

Speaker 5 (10:01):
They want about Mason Rudolph, but I don't know that
that really is the answer at a time when you
got plenty of Steelers fans that want nothing to.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Do with Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
This is a weird situation in Pittsburgh and it feels like,
you know, if they don't draft a quarterback on.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Thursday night, it may not end anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Mike, you're the man. Really appreciate your flexibility and your
commitment to this station, and we'll talk in a week.
Enjoy the draft. Are you going to Green Bay? By
the way, will you be out there?

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I haven't been to the draft since the last year
it was in New York. I think it's an inefficient
way to try to do this job. It's better to
be at home base.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
I'm with you. The less work the better. Let's travel
the better. Mike, you're the man. We love you. Thanks,
So we're talking a week, Buddy Cea Pecker, All right,
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