April 16, 2025 • 13 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about what he knows for the NFL Draft next week, Travis Hunter wanting to play two positions, where Aaron Rodgers may land, Shedeur Sanders’ chances at #3, Jalen Ramsey, and Tyreek Hill.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Now, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I am doing much better than last week because you
got your phone stick. See how much money you say
when you don't pay me?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, well, you know what. We're working on that, all right,
Mike and I are having a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
My people are talking to history. Wire transfers not working. Yeah,
we you know it's uh ticket.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Line, coming ticket line, coming ticket line coming.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The Swiss bank account. You know, we got caught right,
you know, laundering, So we got to kind of you know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I won't be crossing it like Steve larg And oh.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, Steve Largin, how about that?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, I didn't have like twenty catches in a game
against like plumbers the Lions.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
He pulled himself out before he broke all the records. Mike,
the draft is coming up in eight days. Uh, let's
start talking about this a little bit. I think we
can lock in cam Ward number one to Tennessee. Browns
are staring at Carter and they're staring at Travis Hunter.
What do you think the Browns are gonna do a
number two if the draft were tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, look, I still don't rule out some sort of
a shock.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I remember just days before the draft in two thousand
in one, Mike Vick was penciled in for the then
San Diego Chargers. Next thing you know, the Falcons make
a big move and get him. So you never know
what's going to happen. But it sure looks like cam
Wood to the Titans. Then it looks like Travis Hunter
to the Cleveland Browns. And then abduall Carter available for
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the Giants either to take or trade down for someone
who wants and they've already got Brian Burns and Caveon Thibadeau.
But Abdul Carter could be a Lawrence Taylor type of
a player, a dominant force. Hard for the Giants to
pass that up, but they're doing their work on quarterbacks.
Wouldn't shock me completely if they trade out of that spot,
trade down, try to get a quarterback there.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But we'll see.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But it sure feels like regardless of where they go.
Top three cam Ward Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Abdul Carter, Mike, how much power does Travis Hunter really
have to dictate which side of the ball he plays on?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Well, if he has any power, he needs to exercise
it before the card goes in, because if you make
it known to all teams that are interested in you
that you fully expect to play both sides of the
ball on a full time basis, and if you're not
willing to let me do it, don't draft me. That's
the time to do it. And maybe he seeks a
(03:09):
verbal commitment from a team. Then again, verbal promises aren't
worth the paper they're not printed on.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But still, this is the time to clear it up.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And when he blurted it out last week in an
interview with CBS Sports, that to me suggests that the
teams that have been talking to him have gotten that
message at some point that this guy wants an opportunity
to play both ways full.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Time, and I think it's important to let him try.
He needs to come to the conclusion on his own.
That is too much.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
John Harball, the Ravens coach, suggests yesterday there are enough
hours in the day to properly prepare to play both
receiver and cornerback. Let Travis Hunter come to that conclusion.
If you don't let him do it, he's always going
to resent you for it. Let him do it, and
then if he picks one or the other, I think
it makes sense to pick receiver. Just look at what
the highest paid receivers make and what the highest paid corners.
Make pick receiver and you become a star Fantasy Football,
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Darling endorsement deals, etc.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Etc.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I think if he goes one way or the other,
it'll be a receiver, But I hope he succeeds at
his desire to have an opportunity to play both ways.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Mike, are you still following the Aaron Rodgers story or
have you gotten to a point where you just say,
wake me up when the guy signs with somebody.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, look, I'm a businessman, and I try to give
the people what I think they're interested in reading, and
people are interested in what Aaron Rodgers is going to do.
It's a weird situation to have the Pittsburgh Steelers in
an unprecedented posture after they make a move in the
trade for dk met Keev that they've never done.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They've never done something like.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That and paid market value to someone who's never played
for them before. And now the Steelers on Ben did
knee and assuming and maintaining that position of subservience to
Aaron Rodgers until he makes a decision.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That is just weird. That is unlike the Steelers, So
it feels like he's.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Waiting for something and not simply to miss the off
season program. Many think he's waiting for the Vikings to
decide after seeing what JJ McCarthy does or doesn't do
in the off season.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Program, that maybe they need to go all.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
In with Rogers for a year like they did with
Brett Farr back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The other thing too, and the Derek Carr.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
News from Friday that he's got a shoulder injury that
canknock him out for the season. You wait and there
might be an even better seat that opens up. I
don't want to name names for fear of being accused
of jinxing anyone, but you look at the Super Bowl contenders,
something happens to one of their quarterbacks, Boom, Aaron Rodgers
plugged into that spot. He enhances his chance to walk
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off into the sunset with the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Under his arm.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Micah, the Giants working should door out because they really
like him and are concerning him, or they want other
teams to think that they like him and so potentially
they could trade down.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
When the news landed the other day that they were
going to have a private workout with Shador Sanders, the
thought was, man, they really are considering him at three,
or maybe if they could trade down as low as eight,
one before the Saints at nine, where many think his
window is going to open. But then we saw that
they are going to have private workouts with other quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
They're just doing a full work up, they're doing their homework, and.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I think if Shudur Sanders sensed it was a ruse
and they weren't interested, he wouldn't have agreed to do it.
There was a report a couple of weeks ago that
the Titans and Shadoor Sanders had mutually agreed to cancel
a private workout. Well, part of that may have been
Shadoor Sanders and or his dad, Dion Sanders, saying this
does not waste our time here. If you're taking cam Ward,
then take cam Ward, but don't put my son through
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the paces for something that means absolutely nothing. So I
think the fact that the workout happened with the Giants
or will happen, I'm not sure the specific day in time,
but the fact that that's happening tells me Shadur Sanders
at least thinks there's a chance the Giants are seriously
interested and they need a quarterback. Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston
are short term answers at best, if they're even short
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term answers.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Mike Florio's with us what happened with Jalen Ramsey. Dolphins
came out and said he didn't ask for a deal,
he didn't ask for a pay raise, yet we're looking
to trade him. So what happened down there, Well.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Nobody knows, and this thing is odd, This thing is strange.
I think the Dolphins are trying to maintain any trade
leverage they can, and your best trade leverage, especially if
you don't have a whole bunch of teams trying to
get the guy, is to say, fine, we'll just keep him.
And if you make it too clear as to what happened,
if there's only one team that wants him, that team
dictates the terms because they know the Dolphins need to
(07:17):
move on.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
They've got like.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Twenty five million they own this year, fully guaranteed, not
twenty five twenty. They're already Paige four. It's a twenty
five million dollars cap charge if they trade him before
June one. They're just in a tough situation, and they
made their situation worse by making him the highest paid
cornerback in football at the time, after Patrick Curtain got
a twenty four million dollar new Year, New Money Average deal.
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They fought Jalen Ramsey to twenty four to one in
early September, Like why why And the guy was thirty
then he's thirty one. Now the sun is setting on
his career. It's a weird situation and they might find
themselves in a real predicament here. But the timing is
the strangest part. This is something that should have happened
before the new lead year began on March twelve, before
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he received a four million dollar roster bonus.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
For it to be bubbling up right now.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It tells me something went down, something happened, and they're
trying to conceal exactly what occurred because if they tell
us the truth, it's going to hurt their leverage.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
As long as we're on the Miami topic, is the
phone going to ring there with teams offering picks for
Tyreek Hill on Draft Day?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, if Chris created the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
GM of the team when he says yesterday he hasn't
gotten any calls yet, if he's telling the truth, and
why would you if you're trying to create a market
for a player, say, nope.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Nobody's called. If it hasn't rung yet, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's going to be ringing. And the issue with Tyreek Hill,
he didn't have a great year last year. He played
seventeen games and I had a risk injury. They hit
for much of the year, but still he had less
than a thousand receiving yards playing seventeen fool games. He's
thirty one, He's got a lot of money ohed this year.
By next year, that contract's going to be ripped up
if it's not significantly restructured, because he's due to make
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some like thirty five thirty six million dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So it's just a bad situation.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Another one where they gave him a new contract last summer,
and they probably regretted two key players on that team
where they gave them new contracts when they didn't really
have to. And now they're in a situation where they're
asking themselves what the hell did we do?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And there's just a weird vibe with the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It feels like, you know, a couple of years ago,
the window was starting to open, then it felt like
it got stuck.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Now it feels like.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's sliding shut on Miami and there could be a
regime change there after this season.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hey, Mike, I know it's kind of a college story,
but you're about to cover Shador Sanders in the NFL.
What do you make of the Buffalo is retiring his
number at Colorado?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Hey, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I mean some would say he was what thirteen and
eleven is a starter and one in seven against top
twenty five teams. But if that's what Colorado wants to do,
that's what Colorado has the prerogative to.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Do, right, I mean, that's their choice.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And I don't like retiring numbers because like there's only
some any numbers, and if football continues for decades centuries,
like at some point you got to stop retiring numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I just don't like it.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It's like it's like landfills, Like at some point we're
going to run out of place to put the garbage.
I worry about dumb things like that, like the Hall
of Fame. At some point they're going to run out
of the room for all the bus I just worry
about retiring numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't like it. I like it as an unofficial thing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But you don't want to tie yourself to something for
a thousand years, assuming that you know, the Republic lasts
ten years, and assuming that football lasts one hundred years
or longer. I just don't like boxing yourself into that corner.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well, they can unretire a jersey after everybody's dead that
remembered him playing.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I understand that, but why retire. But if it's retired,
it's retired.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Why retire it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You can honor the guys put him in the ring
of honor, although you run out of space with that too.
Every time I'm in Kansas City, it's like they've only
had so many more names on this thing, and they
got like five or six guys on the team right now.
They're probably going to want to put on there.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
But I digress.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I just say, fine, the way to honor the guy.
Retiring numbers, I think is a mistake. But if Colorado
wants to do it for Shador Sanders, if they want
to do it for Dion Sanders even though they don't
have a number, if they want to do it for
more who you know the if you guys remember they
were in Bolder, right.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, they can do it wherever they want.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is anybody ever unretired a number in sports?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, you had these situations where like whenkateon Manning went
to Denver and eighteen was retired. The guy for whom
it was retired his family and I think he was
still alive at the time. It puts the guy in
an awkward spot. Didn't Steve Largin do that with the
Jerry Rice?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, he let me mention it, Yes, he let he
let Well, that was a that was kind of a
misnomer because the word is is that who is the
old GM or the Sonics wits it and Bob whitsit
lied about it apparently and went to Jerry Rice and
said Steve's okay with it when he really wasn't. And then,
by the way, the Giants unretired.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Numbers looked like the jar right the Giants neighbors number.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Ever asked to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I respect Aaron the fact that he didn't accept Joe
Namas offer to wear number twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
In New York.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think you take the higher work. It's just the number.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It is an objective way to identify who the player
is on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, Mike, great stuff, and let's talk next Tuesday before
the annual mock draft. All right, Pale appreciate it, all right,
all right, Mike Flora. Yeah, when you say unretired, I'm
talking about like like taking it away from a guy, right,
Like your number is no longer retired. We're not going
to have your number on the wall because.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Just allowing somebody else to wear.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The Huskies did that with number two for Case and Williams, right,
I mean they the number two was retired and they
allowed Case and Williams to wear it. So when you
say it that way, yeah, there's a lot of teams
I'm certain that have done that that have allowed of
player to wear a number that was supposed to be retired.
But when you say unretired, I'm thinking, like, all right,
that number two is retired. Nobody knows who he is anymore,
so take the name down. They just can't run who's
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the number two that was? They haven't retired a number
for seventy five eighty years. They've got three of them.
You got three numbers that are supposed to be retired.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And they're all being used.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I believe at least one of them is I don't
know about because Kyler Gordon Ward also, well, you have
number two.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Use so many Husky players, you've got to use every number.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Sure, well, the Huskies do have three of them. I
guarantee you that. All right, we're gonna break. We got
a lot more to get to petros at four coming
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Now, how are you?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
I am doing much better than last week because you
got your phone stick. See how much money you say
when you don't pay me?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Yeah, well, you know what. We're working on that, all right,
Mike and I are having a little bit of an issue.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
All right.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
My people are talking to history. Wire transfers not working. Yeah,
we you know it's uh ticket.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
Line, coming ticket line, coming ticket line coming.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
The Swiss bank account. You know, we got caught right,
you know, laundering, So we got to kind of you know, maybe.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I won't be crossing it like Steve larg And oh.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Yeah, Steve Largin, how about that?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Man?
Speaker 5 (01:30):
Yeah, I didn't have like twenty catches in a game
against like plumbers the Lions.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
He pulled himself out before he broke all the records. Mike,
the draft is coming up in eight days. Uh, let's
start talking about this a little bit. I think we
can lock in cam Ward number one to Tennessee. Browns
are staring at Carter and they're staring at Travis Hunter.
What do you think the Browns are gonna do a
number two if the draft were tonight?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Well, look, I still don't rule out some sort of
a shock.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I remember just days before the draft in two thousand
in one, Mike Vick was penciled in for the then
San Diego Chargers. Next thing you know, the Falcons make
a big move and get him. So you never know
what's going to happen. But it sure looks like cam
Wood to the Titans. Then it looks like Travis Hunter
to the Cleveland Browns. And then abduall Carter available for
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the Giants either to take or trade down for someone
who wants and they've already got Brian Burns and Caveon Thibadeau.
But Abdul Carter could be a Lawrence Taylor type of
a player, a dominant force. Hard for the Giants to
pass that up, but they're doing their work on quarterbacks.
Wouldn't shock me completely if they trade out of that spot,
trade down, try to get a quarterback there.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
But we'll see.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
But it sure feels like regardless of where they go.
Top three cam Ward Travis Hunter.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Abdul Carter, Mike, how much power does Travis Hunter really
have to dictate which side of the ball he plays on?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
Well, if he has any power, he needs to exercise
it before the card goes in, because if you make
it known to all teams that are interested in you
that you fully expect to play both sides of the
ball on a full time basis, and if you're not
willing to let me do it, don't draft me. That's
the time to do it. And maybe he seeks a
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verbal commitment from a team. Then again, verbal promises aren't
worth the paper they're not printed on.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
But still, this is the time to clear it up.
Speaker 4 (03:16):
And when he blurted it out last week in an
interview with CBS Sports, that to me suggests that the
teams that have been talking to him have gotten that
message at some point that this guy wants an opportunity
to play both ways full.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Time, and I think it's important to let him try.
He needs to come to the conclusion on his own.
That is too much.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
John Harball, the Ravens coach, suggests yesterday there are enough
hours in the day to properly prepare to play both
receiver and cornerback. Let Travis Hunter come to that conclusion.
If you don't let him do it, he's always going
to resent you for it. Let him do it, and
then if he picks one or the other, I think
it makes sense to pick receiver. Just look at what
the highest paid receivers make and what the highest paid corners.
Make pick receiver and you become a star Fantasy Football,
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Darling endorsement deals, etc.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Etc.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
I think if he goes one way or the other,
it'll be a receiver, But I hope he succeeds at
his desire to have an opportunity to play both ways.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Mike, are you still following the Aaron Rodgers story or
have you gotten to a point where you just say,
wake me up when the guy signs with somebody.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
Well, look, I'm a businessman, and I try to give
the people what I think they're interested in reading, and
people are interested in what Aaron Rodgers is going to do.
It's a weird situation to have the Pittsburgh Steelers in
an unprecedented posture after they make a move in the
trade for dk met Keev that they've never done.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
They've never done something like.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
That and paid market value to someone who's never played
for them before. And now the Steelers on Ben did
knee and assuming and maintaining that position of subservience to
Aaron Rodgers until he makes a decision.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That is just weird. That is unlike the Steelers, So
it feels like he's.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Waiting for something and not simply to miss the off
season program. Many think he's waiting for the Vikings to
decide after seeing what JJ McCarthy does or doesn't do
in the off season.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
Program, that maybe they need to go all.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
In with Rogers for a year like they did with
Brett Farr back in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The other thing too, and the Derek Carr.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
News from Friday that he's got a shoulder injury that
canknock him out for the season. You wait and there
might be an even better seat that opens up. I
don't want to name names for fear of being accused
of jinxing anyone, but you look at the Super Bowl contenders,
something happens to one of their quarterbacks, Boom, Aaron Rodgers
plugged into that spot. He enhances his chance to walk
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off into the sunset with the Lombardi Trophy.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Under his arm.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Micah, the Giants working should door out because they really
like him and are concerning him, or they want other
teams to think that they like him and so potentially
they could trade down.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:40):
When the news landed the other day that they were
going to have a private workout with Shador Sanders, the
thought was, man, they really are considering him at three,
or maybe if they could trade down as low as eight,
one before the Saints at nine, where many think his
window is going to open. But then we saw that
they are going to have private workouts with other quarterbacks.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
They're just doing a full work up, they're doing their homework, and.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
I think if Shudur Sanders sensed it was a ruse
and they weren't interested, he wouldn't have agreed to do it.
There was a report a couple of weeks ago that
the Titans and Shadoor Sanders had mutually agreed to cancel
a private workout. Well, part of that may have been
Shadoor Sanders and or his dad, Dion Sanders, saying this
does not waste our time here. If you're taking cam Ward,
then take cam Ward, but don't put my son through
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the paces for something that means absolutely nothing. So I
think the fact that the workout happened with the Giants
or will happen, I'm not sure the specific day in time,
but the fact that that's happening tells me Shadur Sanders
at least thinks there's a chance the Giants are seriously
interested and they need a quarterback. Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston
are short term answers at best, if they're even short
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term answers.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Mike Florio's with us what happened with Jalen Ramsey. Dolphins
came out and said he didn't ask for a deal,
he didn't ask for a pay raise, yet we're looking
to trade him. So what happened down there, Well.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Nobody knows, and this thing is odd, This thing is strange.
I think the Dolphins are trying to maintain any trade
leverage they can, and your best trade leverage, especially if
you don't have a whole bunch of teams trying to
get the guy, is to say, fine, we'll just keep him.
And if you make it too clear as to what happened,
if there's only one team that wants him, that team
dictates the terms because they know the Dolphins need to
(07:17):
move on.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
They've got like.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Twenty five million they own this year, fully guaranteed, not
twenty five twenty. They're already Paige four. It's a twenty
five million dollars cap charge if they trade him before
June one. They're just in a tough situation, and they
made their situation worse by making him the highest paid
cornerback in football at the time, after Patrick Curtain got
a twenty four million dollar new Year, New Money Average deal.
(07:40):
They fought Jalen Ramsey to twenty four to one in
early September, Like why why And the guy was thirty
then he's thirty one. Now the sun is setting on
his career. It's a weird situation and they might find
themselves in a real predicament here. But the timing is
the strangest part. This is something that should have happened
before the new lead year began on March twelve, before
(08:02):
he received a four million dollar roster bonus.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
For it to be bubbling up right now.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
It tells me something went down, something happened, and they're
trying to conceal exactly what occurred because if they tell
us the truth, it's going to hurt their leverage.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
As long as we're on the Miami topic, is the
phone going to ring there with teams offering picks for
Tyreek Hill on Draft Day?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Well, if Chris created the.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
GM of the team when he says yesterday he hasn't
gotten any calls yet, if he's telling the truth, and
why would you if you're trying to create a market
for a player, say, nope.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Nobody's called. If it hasn't rung yet, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
It's going to be ringing. And the issue with Tyreek Hill,
he didn't have a great year last year. He played
seventeen games and I had a risk injury. They hit
for much of the year, but still he had less
than a thousand receiving yards playing seventeen fool games. He's
thirty one, He's got a lot of money ohed this year.
By next year, that contract's going to be ripped up
if it's not significantly restructured, because he's due to make
(08:59):
some like thirty five thirty six million dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
So it's just a bad situation.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Another one where they gave him a new contract last summer,
and they probably regretted two key players on that team
where they gave them new contracts when they didn't really
have to. And now they're in a situation where they're
asking themselves what the hell did we do?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And there's just a weird vibe with the Dolphins.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
It feels like, you know, a couple of years ago,
the window was starting to open, then it felt like
it got stuck.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Now it feels like.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's sliding shut on Miami and there could be a
regime change there after this season.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Hey, Mike, I know it's kind of a college story,
but you're about to cover Shador Sanders in the NFL.
What do you make of the Buffalo is retiring his
number at Colorado?
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Hey, they can do whatever they want.
Speaker 4 (09:39):
I mean some would say he was what thirteen and
eleven is a starter and one in seven against top
twenty five teams. But if that's what Colorado wants to do,
that's what Colorado has the prerogative to.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Do, right, I mean, that's their choice.
Speaker 4 (09:55):
And I don't like retiring numbers because like there's only
some any numbers, and if football continues for decades centuries,
like at some point you got to stop retiring numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
I just don't like it.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
It's like it's like landfills, Like at some point we're
going to run out of place to put the garbage.
I worry about dumb things like that, like the Hall
of Fame. At some point they're going to run out
of the room for all the bus I just worry
about retiring numbers.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
I don't like it. I like it as an unofficial thing.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
But you don't want to tie yourself to something for
a thousand years, assuming that you know, the Republic lasts
ten years, and assuming that football lasts one hundred years
or longer. I just don't like boxing yourself into that corner.
Speaker 5 (10:37):
Well, they can unretire a jersey after everybody's dead that
remembered him playing.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
I understand that, but why retire. But if it's retired,
it's retired.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
Why retire it.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
You can honor the guys put him in the ring
of honor, although you run out of space with that too.
Every time I'm in Kansas City, it's like they've only
had so many more names on this thing, and they
got like five or six guys on the team right now.
They're probably going to want to put on there.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
But I digress.
Speaker 4 (10:59):
I just say, fine, the way to honor the guy.
Retiring numbers, I think is a mistake. But if Colorado
wants to do it for Shador Sanders, if they want
to do it for Dion Sanders even though they don't
have a number, if they want to do it for
more who you know the if you guys remember they
were in Bolder, right.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, they can do it wherever they want.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Is anybody ever unretired a number in sports?
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Well, you had these situations where like whenkateon Manning went
to Denver and eighteen was retired. The guy for whom
it was retired his family and I think he was
still alive at the time. It puts the guy in
an awkward spot. Didn't Steve Largin do that with the
Jerry Rice?
Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, he let me mention it, Yes, he let he
let Well, that was a that was kind of a
misnomer because the word is is that who is the
old GM or the Sonics wits it and Bob whitsit
lied about it apparently and went to Jerry Rice and
said Steve's okay with it when he really wasn't. And then,
by the way, the Giants unretired.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Numbers looked like the jar right the Giants neighbors number.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Ever asked to do it.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I respect Aaron the fact that he didn't accept Joe
Namas offer to wear number twelve.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
In New York.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
I think you take the higher work. It's just the number.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
It is an objective way to identify who the player
is on the field.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, Mike, great stuff, and let's talk next Tuesday before
the annual mock draft. All right, Pale appreciate it, all right,
all right, Mike Flora. Yeah, when you say unretired, I'm
talking about like like taking it away from a guy, right,
Like your number is no longer retired. We're not going
to have your number on the wall because.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
Just allowing somebody else to wear.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
The Huskies did that with number two for Case and Williams, right,
I mean they the number two was retired and they
allowed Case and Williams to wear it. So when you
say it that way, yeah, there's a lot of teams
I'm certain that have done that that have allowed of
player to wear a number that was supposed to be retired.
But when you say unretired, I'm thinking, like, all right,
that number two is retired. Nobody knows who he is anymore,
so take the name down. They just can't run who's
(12:52):
the number two that was? They haven't retired a number
for seventy five eighty years. They've got three of them.
You got three numbers that are supposed to be retired.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
And they're all being used.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I believe at least one of them is I don't
know about because Kyler Gordon Ward also, well, you have
number two.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Use so many Husky players, you've got to use every number.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Sure, well, the Huskies do have three of them. I
guarantee you that. All right, we're gonna break. We got
a lot more to get to petros at four coming
up on ninety three three kJ A RFM
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