October 22, 2025 • 12 mins
Mike Florio of PFT joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about Russell Wilson’s comments showing some realism, the Miami Dolphins’ mess, the success of the Colts this season, Monday night doubleheaders, Pete Carroll’s failures and a possible trade.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Each time for a weekly conversation with Pro Football Talks
Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
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(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick the Foothold.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday, joining
us right now on the radio program. Always enjoy his
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dot com. Whatever it is you got your eye on
KJR fifteen fifteen percent off anything baby at simply Seattle
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(00:44):
of all NFL media, Our friend Michael Florio.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
How are you pal?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Buttholes, how are you host?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We are good? H I gotta tell you what, man,
I was a little bit proud of Russell Wilson for
going after Sean Payton. I was like, you know, oh,
that's very unlike you. You broke character. But good for you, man.
Don't take any crap off. Sean Payton. Sean Payton came
out after the Giant Denver game and said they were
kind of hoping to see Russell Wilson instead of Jackson Dark.
(01:13):
He said it indirectly, obviously, and then Russell Wilson called
him classless man. So I loved it. I thought it
was beyond time that Russell Wilson stand up for himself.
How about you?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh, he invoked the bounty scandal from twenty twelve that
was Russell Wilson's rookie year. Look, this guy has been
a very carefully cultivated manatured media presence. There was a
report years ago of him doing pretend press conferences when
he was a kid, and he's never ever ever broken
(01:45):
tree from that. He's never given us a real human moment.
And I think what happened was he's feeling it. Look
at that game from a couple of Thursday nights ago
when Jackson Dart was getting a concussion evaluation and the
fans were immediately restless at the idea of Russell Wilson
entering the game, and then Brian day Ball gets the
whole team in trouble for.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Trying to find out quickly is Dark going to be back?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Because, as day Ball said after the game, had a
fourth down decision coming up, and if Darts coming back,
I'm going to call a time out and go for it.
The implication being there's no way in hell I'm going
to go forward with Russell Wilson. So that one little
extra straw broke the camel's back.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And it got the very predictable, very by the book
very say what everyone.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Expects you to say, Russell Wilson to drop the facade
for a second and let us know there's a real
human being in there.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And that's refreshing because I was starting to wonder, I mean,
his age of AI. Maybe he would the original chat spot.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I don't know, but yeah, I'm fine with it because
I like that stuff. It's good for business start up
a little bit. I only wish it had happened before
the game between the Giants and the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, Mike.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
The Miami Dolphins were at worst supposed to be respectable
this year and it best supposed to be a playoff
team this year. They have beaten the New York Jets,
and that's it. That's all. Why does Mike McDaniel still
have a job.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well, first of all, I am rarely accurate about anything,
and I will gladly wear that because the business of
trying to figure out what's going to happen in the
NFL is a minefield and nobody ever really knows.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
But I had a very.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Strong feeling, based upon the messages emanating from the Dolphins
before the season, that it was going to be a
disaster because they always talk and they talk about what's
going to be different.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
We're going to change this, We're going to change the culture.
As I've said.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Multiple times, it reminds me of the guy who says
I'm going to start going to the gym every day
tomorrow and he never goes and he never changed.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And I thought this could go very poorly. Now. I
had some games early on that maybe could have gone
the other way.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But once the Snowballs started to go here we are
and they hit their low point on Sunday against the Browns,
I thought that Mike McDaniel and GM Chris Career could
be fired. The next day, early Monday morning, work came
out from NFL media that no changes are expected, at
this time. I think that at some point we have
to want under whether or not owner Steven Ross is
just letting things go, because we know, based upon allegations
(04:07):
from former Dolphins coach Brian Flores, that Ross offered one
hundred thousand dollars per loss in twenty nineteen when they're
trying to get in a position to get Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Now, Ross has said it was a joke.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I still haven't found the punchline three years later. But
this is a guy who I think looks at a
lost season and sees is an opportunity to get the
highest possible draft pick.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
In the NFL. Doesn't like people talking about that. They
want to keep a.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Firewall between being bad and having a prime spot in
the draft order. But it's a real temptation, it's a
real business reality of the NFL. You're not going to
make the playoffs anyway. Why not lay the foundation to
get a potentially transformational player the next year in the draft.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I just wonder whether or not.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
He's kicking his can because he likes the fact that
with the season basically done from a playoff perspective, let's.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Go ahead and be as bad as we can and
get the best basketball player next year.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Mike, I'm looking at the the Indianapolis Colts and they've
got a point differential of plus ninety two, which is
twenty eight points better than any other team in the NFL.
And I'm just wondering how long this can last? And
if they were a stock, would you be investing in them?
Would you be shorten them, short selling Indianapolis? What's your
take on where they go from here?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, there's always a correction, but it doesn't mean it's
guaranteed to be inevitable.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They could keep this rolling.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I think one big key is the ongoing health of
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Very early in the season.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I think it was all the way back in Week
one he got blown up by Matthew Judon of the Dolphins.
That was the team that they dismantled right out of
the gate. You get hit the wrong way at the
wrong time, and all of a sudden, it's Riley Leonard
the rookie at quarterback because Anthony Richardson's one into reserve
due to a pregame mishap with an elastic band.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And that is not a product of Mablet's exercise. That
is true.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So I think the key is Daniel Jones staying healthy,
and also as we get deeper into the season, there's
more tape out there the defenses can use to try
to crack the code on what the Cults would doing
well and try to counter it. So it's always incumbent
on a team that's having success to self scout and
stay ahead of its own trends and tendencies and break
them so that they're not predictable and they don't come
(06:11):
against up against the defense that knows exactly how to
shut it down. But the rushing game is great with
Jonathan Taylor, he's back to being the best running back.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Arguably in the NFL. Daniel Jones has resurrected his career.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
And here they go at six and one, and let's
see how the rest of the season plays out. But
seven games in, you get six wins in this league,
you're looking pretty good for the postseason.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Mike, that Seahawks game kicked off at ten to fifteen
your time on Monday night. Are we going to continue
to see these double headers on Monday?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, apparently with this ESPN NFL Mega Media merger, the
extra games that have ended up being double headers on
ESPN get sent back to NFL Network and ESPN inherit
the early morning London Madrid Berlin games. But that doesn't
stop NFL Network from doing a simultaneous doubleheader with ABC
(07:03):
slash ESPN.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So I don't think that that automatically ends it.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
If they want to do it, they're going to do it,
and they want to get this maximum number for the
overlapping double headers, which I hate when people are watching
either game. I don't know the purpose of the back
to back double header other than it takes six full
hours of programming or six and a half as the
case may be.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
On Monday, that was a long That was a long night,
and I went through this dilemma like if I go
to bed, all hell is going to break loose in
this game, and if I stay up to watch the
end of it, it's going to be a fight to
stay awake.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I chose to watch it all and there were some
interesting moments.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But that is a long, long Monday after a long, long.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Sunday of football.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But as long as they think that there's going to
be a significant audience in one of those windows, more
significant than what happens when you throw a game in
with the cluster of other games at one o'clock and
four o'clock Eastern on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
They're going to do it. They're gonna do it. Those
are the from wardways to stuff cheese.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Into the crust of the pizza, and this is one
way to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Mike is the NFL passed Pete Carroll by.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I think he landed in the spot where the roster
isn't good enough, and they made some bad decisions. They
didn't want rewind to right around the scouting combine when
it looked like Matthew Stafford might actually leave the Rams,
although in hindsight that seems to be a ploy aimed
at getting the most he could by way of a
contract moving forward. But both the Giants and the Raiders
(08:28):
thought he would leave, and the Raiders went all in
to try to get him, and then once that didn't
work out, you know, there were reports that broke from
the Friday of combine weeks that Tom Brady and John
spy Tech aren't interested in any of the available veterans
and the coaching staff didn't want any of the rookies,
and that may have resulted in the compromise to do
the reunion with Gino Smith and Pete Carroll. But they
could have had Sam Darnold, they could have had Daniel Jones.
(08:50):
They had other options that they didn't want. So they've
made some bad decisions from a roster standpoint. And also
Brock Bowers has.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Been injured for most of the year.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
That's not helpful. He was so good last year for
a team that wasn't very good. But it really is
crazy to see where they are right now and how
bad they were against the Chiefs. And you know, one
of the aberrations last year once we got to the
end of the season was the Patriots somehow beating the
Bengals week one. The Raiders somehow beating the Patriots week
one is going to be the thing that we look
at when the season ended.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
How the hell did that happen?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Yeah, well, they can improve their roster really quickly if
they do what the Cowboys did with Micah Parsons, and
that's trade Max Crosby. Do you think Max Crosby is
on this team in a month?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Well, it was.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Strange how yesterday unfolded. I think it was Trey Wingo
that reported the Cowboys that inquired about Max Crosby, which
prompted the Raiders to communicate director to Crosby, we're not
shopping you, we're not trading you.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Part of the report also was that Crosby doesn't want
to leave. I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
If he had an opportunity to go play for a
Super Bowl contender, he might think twice about it, because
he's been with the Raiders long enough to realize that
whatever we try to do, it's it's not working. I
think that there are only so many truly unc tradable
players in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Now I would have thought Michael Parsons was one of them. Yeah,
so you know, the list may.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Not be very reliable. But I don't think Max Crosby
is untradeable.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
If Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Wasn't, I don't think Max Crosby is question of whether
or not there's a team out there that sees the opportunity,
is willing to give the Raiders what they want is
a team that Max Crosby will happily go play for.
Because even if you don't have a no trade cause,
if you're a key player and you don't want to
go somewhere like why are you going to do this.
So there's a lot of moving parts, and there's still
two weekends of games before the trade deadline comes. So
(10:30):
teams that may not be buyers right now to become
buyers and highly motivated buyers. I don't rule out the possibility.
And I never believe the reports and the public claims
that we have.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
No intention to trade a player.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
How that's how Percy Harvin ended up with the Seahawks
all those years ago. Like two days after the Viking
said we have no intention to trade Percy Harvin, Percy
Harvin was gone.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, Roger Goodell came out and said, we're not gonna
remove bad money from the Super Bowl halftime show. I
don't care what the president thanks, I don't care what
people think he's doing it. Do they even remotely consider
doing something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I don't think you quite put it that way. They're
in a difficult spot here because they need governmental approval
of that ESPN mega media deal that will have the
NFL ultimately own ten percent.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Equity in ESPN.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think that it was out of character for the
NFL to do something that would be a political issue
that would alienate a certain political demographic that won't like
the idea of Bad Bunny being the halftime performer, and
it does complicate potentially, It's just another issue that someone
in the government could point to and say, we shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Approve this deal.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They foisted on two Americans a performer that they shouldn't have.
I could see that kind of thing happening. And the
other reality too. They've announced this what is a turning
point USA. They've announced that they're going to have an
alternate halftime. You know, if a major network picks that up,
and it's easy enough to grab your remote and switch
from NBC to whichever network has that halftime show, it
(11:59):
could eat into that number. And remember the reason the
NFL goes with the star stud at halftimes. Now, it
was nineteen ninety two when Fox programmed a live twenty
minute edition of In Living Color to go up against
Super Bowl halftime and siphoned away a large chunk of
the audience. And next year it was Michael Jackson. So
they they and they've done ever since then a big
(12:19):
act to keep that audience together and build it.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And I think last year it actually was larger.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
There have been years where the audience averages larger at
halftime than it is for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
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Mike Florio, brought to you by Simply Seattle. Tired of
buying and ripping the same old Seattle sports gear everyone
else has. For the best Storm, Seahawks, Mariners, Kraken, Rainiers, Sounders,
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check out simply Sattle dot com. Now with Mike Florio,
(00:21):
Here's Softy and Dick the Foothold.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
All right, here we go on a busy Wednesday, joining
us right now on the radio program. Always enjoy his
visits every Wednesday courtesy of our pals at simply Seattle
dot com. Whatever it is you got your eye on
KJR fifteen fifteen percent off anything baby at simply Seattle
dot com. Our friend from Pro Football Talk dot com,
the NFL at NBC, the heavyweight champ, the undisputed king
(00:44):
of all NFL media, Our friend Michael Florio.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
How are you pal?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Gentlemen?
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Buttholes, how are you host?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
We are good? H I gotta tell you what, man,
I was a little bit proud of Russell Wilson for
going after Sean Payton. I was like, you know, oh,
that's very unlike you. You broke character. But good for you, man.
Don't take any crap off. Sean Payton. Sean Payton came
out after the Giant Denver game and said they were
kind of hoping to see Russell Wilson instead of Jackson Dark.
(01:13):
He said it indirectly, obviously, and then Russell Wilson called
him classless man. So I loved it. I thought it
was beyond time that Russell Wilson stand up for himself.
How about you?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh, he invoked the bounty scandal from twenty twelve that
was Russell Wilson's rookie year. Look, this guy has been
a very carefully cultivated manatured media presence. There was a
report years ago of him doing pretend press conferences when
he was a kid, and he's never ever ever broken
(01:45):
tree from that. He's never given us a real human moment.
And I think what happened was he's feeling it. Look
at that game from a couple of Thursday nights ago
when Jackson Dart was getting a concussion evaluation and the
fans were immediately restless at the idea of Russell Wilson
entering the game, and then Brian day Ball gets the
whole team in trouble for.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Trying to find out quickly is Dark going to be back?
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Because, as day Ball said after the game, had a
fourth down decision coming up, and if Darts coming back,
I'm going to call a time out and go for it.
The implication being there's no way in hell I'm going
to go forward with Russell Wilson. So that one little
extra straw broke the camel's back.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
And it got the very predictable, very by the book
very say what everyone.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
Expects you to say, Russell Wilson to drop the facade
for a second and let us know there's a real
human being in there.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And that's refreshing because I was starting to wonder, I mean,
his age of AI. Maybe he would the original chat spot.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
I don't know, but yeah, I'm fine with it because
I like that stuff. It's good for business start up
a little bit. I only wish it had happened before
the game between the Giants and the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, yeah, Mike.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
The Miami Dolphins were at worst supposed to be respectable
this year and it best supposed to be a playoff
team this year. They have beaten the New York Jets,
and that's it. That's all. Why does Mike McDaniel still
have a job.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Well, first of all, I am rarely accurate about anything,
and I will gladly wear that because the business of
trying to figure out what's going to happen in the
NFL is a minefield and nobody ever really knows.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
But I had a very.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Strong feeling, based upon the messages emanating from the Dolphins
before the season, that it was going to be a
disaster because they always talk and they talk about what's
going to be different.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
We're going to change this, We're going to change the culture.
As I've said.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Multiple times, it reminds me of the guy who says
I'm going to start going to the gym every day
tomorrow and he never goes and he never changed.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And I thought this could go very poorly. Now. I
had some games early on that maybe could have gone
the other way.
Speaker 4 (03:44):
But once the Snowballs started to go here we are
and they hit their low point on Sunday against the Browns,
I thought that Mike McDaniel and GM Chris Career could
be fired. The next day, early Monday morning, work came
out from NFL media that no changes are expected, at
this time. I think that at some point we have
to want under whether or not owner Steven Ross is
just letting things go, because we know, based upon allegations
(04:07):
from former Dolphins coach Brian Flores, that Ross offered one
hundred thousand dollars per loss in twenty nineteen when they're
trying to get in a position to get Joe Burrow.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
Now, Ross has said it was a joke.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I still haven't found the punchline three years later. But
this is a guy who I think looks at a
lost season and sees is an opportunity to get the
highest possible draft pick.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
In the NFL. Doesn't like people talking about that. They
want to keep a.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
Firewall between being bad and having a prime spot in
the draft order. But it's a real temptation, it's a
real business reality of the NFL. You're not going to
make the playoffs anyway. Why not lay the foundation to
get a potentially transformational player the next year in the draft.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
So I just wonder whether or not.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
He's kicking his can because he likes the fact that
with the season basically done from a playoff perspective, let's.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Go ahead and be as bad as we can and
get the best basketball player next year.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Mike, I'm looking at the the Indianapolis Colts and they've
got a point differential of plus ninety two, which is
twenty eight points better than any other team in the NFL.
And I'm just wondering how long this can last? And
if they were a stock, would you be investing in them?
Would you be shorten them, short selling Indianapolis? What's your
take on where they go from here?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Well, there's always a correction, but it doesn't mean it's
guaranteed to be inevitable.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
They could keep this rolling.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I think one big key is the ongoing health of
Daniel Jones.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
Very early in the season.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I think it was all the way back in Week
one he got blown up by Matthew Judon of the Dolphins.
That was the team that they dismantled right out of
the gate. You get hit the wrong way at the
wrong time, and all of a sudden, it's Riley Leonard
the rookie at quarterback because Anthony Richardson's one into reserve
due to a pregame mishap with an elastic band.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
And that is not a product of Mablet's exercise. That
is true.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
So I think the key is Daniel Jones staying healthy,
and also as we get deeper into the season, there's
more tape out there the defenses can use to try
to crack the code on what the Cults would doing
well and try to counter it. So it's always incumbent
on a team that's having success to self scout and
stay ahead of its own trends and tendencies and break
them so that they're not predictable and they don't come
(06:11):
against up against the defense that knows exactly how to
shut it down. But the rushing game is great with
Jonathan Taylor, he's back to being the best running back.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
Arguably in the NFL. Daniel Jones has resurrected his career.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
And here they go at six and one, and let's
see how the rest of the season plays out. But
seven games in, you get six wins in this league,
you're looking pretty good for the postseason.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
Mike, that Seahawks game kicked off at ten to fifteen
your time on Monday night. Are we going to continue
to see these double headers on Monday?
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Well, apparently with this ESPN NFL Mega Media merger, the
extra games that have ended up being double headers on
ESPN get sent back to NFL Network and ESPN inherit
the early morning London Madrid Berlin games. But that doesn't
stop NFL Network from doing a simultaneous doubleheader with ABC
(07:03):
slash ESPN.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So I don't think that that automatically ends it.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
If they want to do it, they're going to do it,
and they want to get this maximum number for the
overlapping double headers, which I hate when people are watching
either game. I don't know the purpose of the back
to back double header other than it takes six full
hours of programming or six and a half as the
case may be.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
On Monday, that was a long That was a long night,
and I went through this dilemma like if I go
to bed, all hell is going to break loose in
this game, and if I stay up to watch the
end of it, it's going to be a fight to
stay awake.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
I chose to watch it all and there were some
interesting moments.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
But that is a long, long Monday after a long, long.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Sunday of football.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But as long as they think that there's going to
be a significant audience in one of those windows, more
significant than what happens when you throw a game in
with the cluster of other games at one o'clock and
four o'clock Eastern on a Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
They're going to do it. They're gonna do it. Those
are the from wardways to stuff cheese.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
Into the crust of the pizza, and this is one
way to do it.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Mike is the NFL passed Pete Carroll by.
Speaker 6 (08:05):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
I think he landed in the spot where the roster
isn't good enough, and they made some bad decisions. They
didn't want rewind to right around the scouting combine when
it looked like Matthew Stafford might actually leave the Rams,
although in hindsight that seems to be a ploy aimed
at getting the most he could by way of a
contract moving forward. But both the Giants and the Raiders
(08:28):
thought he would leave, and the Raiders went all in
to try to get him, and then once that didn't
work out, you know, there were reports that broke from
the Friday of combine weeks that Tom Brady and John
spy Tech aren't interested in any of the available veterans
and the coaching staff didn't want any of the rookies,
and that may have resulted in the compromise to do
the reunion with Gino Smith and Pete Carroll. But they
could have had Sam Darnold, they could have had Daniel Jones.
(08:50):
They had other options that they didn't want. So they've
made some bad decisions from a roster standpoint. And also
Brock Bowers has.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Been injured for most of the year.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
That's not helpful. He was so good last year for
a team that wasn't very good. But it really is
crazy to see where they are right now and how
bad they were against the Chiefs. And you know, one
of the aberrations last year once we got to the
end of the season was the Patriots somehow beating the
Bengals week one. The Raiders somehow beating the Patriots week
one is going to be the thing that we look
at when the season ended.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
How the hell did that happen?
Speaker 5 (09:21):
Yeah, well, they can improve their roster really quickly if
they do what the Cowboys did with Micah Parsons, and
that's trade Max Crosby. Do you think Max Crosby is
on this team in a month?
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Well, it was.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Strange how yesterday unfolded. I think it was Trey Wingo
that reported the Cowboys that inquired about Max Crosby, which
prompted the Raiders to communicate director to Crosby, we're not
shopping you, we're not trading you.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Part of the report also was that Crosby doesn't want
to leave. I don't know about that.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
If he had an opportunity to go play for a
Super Bowl contender, he might think twice about it, because
he's been with the Raiders long enough to realize that
whatever we try to do, it's it's not working. I
think that there are only so many truly unc tradable
players in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
Now I would have thought Michael Parsons was one of them. Yeah,
so you know, the list may.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
Not be very reliable. But I don't think Max Crosby
is untradeable.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
If Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Wasn't, I don't think Max Crosby is question of whether
or not there's a team out there that sees the opportunity,
is willing to give the Raiders what they want is
a team that Max Crosby will happily go play for.
Because even if you don't have a no trade cause,
if you're a key player and you don't want to
go somewhere like why are you going to do this.
So there's a lot of moving parts, and there's still
two weekends of games before the trade deadline comes. So
(10:30):
teams that may not be buyers right now to become
buyers and highly motivated buyers. I don't rule out the possibility.
And I never believe the reports and the public claims
that we have.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
No intention to trade a player.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
How that's how Percy Harvin ended up with the Seahawks
all those years ago. Like two days after the Viking
said we have no intention to trade Percy Harvin, Percy
Harvin was gone.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Yeah, Roger Goodell came out and said, we're not gonna
remove bad money from the Super Bowl halftime show. I
don't care what the president thanks, I don't care what
people think he's doing it. Do they even remotely consider
doing something like that.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
I don't think you quite put it that way. They're
in a difficult spot here because they need governmental approval
of that ESPN mega media deal that will have the
NFL ultimately own ten percent.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Equity in ESPN.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
I think that it was out of character for the
NFL to do something that would be a political issue
that would alienate a certain political demographic that won't like
the idea of Bad Bunny being the halftime performer, and
it does complicate potentially, It's just another issue that someone
in the government could point to and say, we shouldn't.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Approve this deal.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
They foisted on two Americans a performer that they shouldn't have.
I could see that kind of thing happening. And the
other reality too. They've announced this what is a turning
point USA. They've announced that they're going to have an
alternate halftime. You know, if a major network picks that up,
and it's easy enough to grab your remote and switch
from NBC to whichever network has that halftime show, it
(11:59):
could eat into that number. And remember the reason the
NFL goes with the star stud at halftimes. Now, it
was nineteen ninety two when Fox programmed a live twenty
minute edition of In Living Color to go up against
Super Bowl halftime and siphoned away a large chunk of
the audience. And next year it was Michael Jackson. So
they they and they've done ever since then a big
(12:19):
act to keep that audience together and build it.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And I think last year it actually was larger.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
There have been years where the audience averages larger at
halftime than it is for the rest of the game.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Wow, Michael, you're the man. Great stuff. We'll talk in
a week. You got all right, Mike Florio with us.
We'll come back. Next segment, Factor Fiction brought you by
the Lucky Eagle Casino. Jackson has survived the week he's asked.
He comes back and does it again. We call the
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