October 23, 2025 • 15 mins
Mike Holmgren joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Mariners playing during the Seahawks game on Monday night, Seattle’s win over the Texans, what sees from Sam Darnold and Jaxon Smith-Njigba right now, the back-and-forth between Sean Payton and Russell Wilson this week, the New York Jets disaster, and Woody Johnson.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL,
Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks
head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Combrin. Brought to
you by Toyota of Kirkland. The championship team at Toyota
of Kirkland does all the little things that exceed your
expectations and that's what makes Toyota of Kirkland so special.
(00:20):
And by R and R Foundation specialist serving Western Washington
for over twenty years now from the five twenty Bar
and Grill in Bellevue, Mike Holmgrin went softie and did.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We got to get Mike Hombran's take on that. By
the way, rig poker games funded by the mafia. Apparently
they were wearing like these X ray glasses and special
content X ray table so they could see it really hard.
And the car, Mike, Just when you think the world's
getting crazy, it gets even crazier.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My friend, how you doing, man.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm doing good and I will tell you this. Playing
in poker games was really fun. It in college? Did it?
Did it?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
When we were at bau Co coaches and we get
some guys at night. But uh it was. It wasn't rigged,
and there wasn't piles of money floating or out. Why goodness,
that was a story.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Oh, coach, let's take it to the NFL. How concerned
should we be about NFL players NFL? What about NFL
offensive coordinators calling plays?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How should we be? How rigged?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Or concerns would be about those guys rigging games?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Uh? You know what, I would trust that wouldn't happen.
But you know, when this, there was a time when
I first got into it, I couldn't even if I
went to Las Vegas or Lake Tahoa or someplace, I
couldn't even walk into a sportsbook. I couldn't. And so
the thing is, you guys, well know it's really changed.
And I thought when it changed, I thought there was
(01:53):
a chance the thing was to get off the rails
just a little bit. And if this is any indication
of oh, this is bad, though, this is really bad.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean Billips is if he doesn't turn
over Benny bats and Tommy two fingers, he's going to
prison man and maybe for a long time. So crazy
story down there in Portland, no doubt about it. But
Mike speaking a crazy at game time. Actually around five
point thirty on Monday night before the Seahawks and Texans played.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was fifty dollars to get.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
In the door for the Seahawk Texan game because the
Mariners were playing in Game seven of the ALCS at
the exact same time. So I don't even know. I mean,
I haven't seen any ratings from the game on Monday. Dick,
you were there and you said there were some open seats.
It was obvious there were open seats in the stadium
on Monday. I mean, you know, do the players feel
that because there was a point there was a part
(02:44):
of the game of Monday that kind of was a
little sloppy from a Seahawk perspective, and I wonder if
that kind of rubbed off on him indirectly.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You know what. And that's a good, good thought, good question,
because it's different when you don't have I don't know,
you know, it's hard for me to under believe that
you didn't have a lot of noise in the normal
stuff in the stadium. But I remember playing in some stadiums,
and Lo Saint Louis was the worst that I can
remember in the first half, and we were the visiting
(03:12):
team saying upstairs, it's weird down here. Can you guys
hear anything up there? This is really different, and I
think it affects people. It certainly affected me, and it
affected the players, I think a little bit. But you
know what I'm with you day one the Mariners listen,
that was history having a chance to really be something,
(03:35):
and the fact that they got there and this city
and how they backed the Mariners and those fans that
are baseball fans and they're there all the time. Yeah,
I was going back and forth and Kathy couldn't even
watch the game. She gets, she gets, you know, let's
get stressed out. And so it was special. It doesn't
surprise me that it took some of the stuff, some
(03:57):
of the adventure out of the Seak game.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Maybe the most bizarre play of the game was Sam
Donald fumbling in his own end zone for a touchdown.
I would love to get your take of what your
face would look like and what the conversation would be
like when Sam Donald walked through the sidelines, and would
you go up to him and talk to him or
would you leave him alone on a play After a
(04:23):
play like that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I probably shouldn't go up to him, but I think
I would have, and and I was thinking about, actually,
I was thinking about how would I handle this, because
you guys like to ask me these questions when I
get fired up. But you know, I would probably say,
you're kidding me, aren't you? What did I just see?
(04:47):
What did I just see you do? And trying to
get him to you know, okay. I learned a lot.
I learned a lot from Bill walshto when he'd Joe
Montaner Steve where somebody would do something crazy on the
field and he'd be Randy be ranting on the phone
with me. Guy, I'd be in the you know, I
discream it and then the player to come over to
(05:08):
him and he goes, how's it going out there and
kind of calm things down. He never I go why
does he talk to the Why is he yelling at me?
I'm not out there playing right?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
He's One of the weirdest things from the game Monday
is the referee keeping Jackson Smith and Jigbuff from getting
his ass kicked by a plethora of Houston Texan players
on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Did you see that? And have you ever seen a.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Referee protect a player like that from the opposing.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Team, never never seen it. No, and then he was no.
I you know, I don't think he would have escalated
because he's you know, he's not a big, big guy
and you know, but the fact that he hopped in
there and and did that, I was impressed. Maybe maybe
they're coming around. I wish they would handle their calls
(05:54):
like they'd handle that. I mean, because she whiz that.
I think the officiating this year is is they're not
They're not getting good grades. I will say that, why.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, I was gonna ask you something else, but why
do you think that is? I mean, why do you, like,
do you think the officiating is worse this year than
it's been in a while? And if so, why do
you what do you attribute that to?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well? I think it is. I I'm watching games and
I said, yeah, I wouldn't call that, you know, interference
or you know they're they're I think they're calling the
game tighter. I always was worried about you know, they
come into the meet with the coaches before the game
and they go okay, and then now you'd have some
questions or some you might have something like I some
(06:35):
team would you know they they do lineup all sides
on defense. This team, they do it all the time.
It's never called. Would you watch that please? Or I'd
say a couple of things nicely to them. Okay, then
you know what would happen. What would happen is I'd
get called for that turning game that was the play
I go with a minute, I talk to you about
their they doing that. I'm not me, you know, and
(06:58):
so but I I just it's a little picky picky
right now, and too many calls, too many officiating calls,
and they have a tendency to adjust those during the
season if it's happening too much, which is a good thing.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Coach, You've had a lot of different quarterbacks on the
scale of risk taking, the less risk guys, of course,
Brett probably the most risk guy, and everywhere in between.
Where is Sam Darnold on that list? Because it does
seem like he likes to push the envelope and sometimes
it is a great ball and sometimes it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Gets picked off.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
He is he the type of risk taker you like
or is he more risky than you'd like?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well? Right now, well, I think first of all, I
like him, you know that, And then I think he's
having I think he's off to a great start. I
think this team is doing well. You know, but I
would say this to your point. You know, it's yeah,
he throws some passes that you know, he's been so
good and then all of a sudden, why do you
(08:00):
why to do that? You know, in my mind, why
did you do that? And so I think there's some
work there. There's some man he knows that. The thing
another thing I like about the young man, and he
seems to know that. You know. He puts it on
the South and the guys that are willing to change,
and I go back too far. If he's willing to
change finally, before I died, you know that. You know,
(08:26):
I think Sam does that. He works hard at doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Mike Home, Griun's with us, and Mike, I got to
ask you about Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's on pace
for one hundred and seventy targets, which I think is
like thirty more than DK metcalf ever got when he
was here in Seattle. Would have been number two in
the NFL a year ago, number three in the NFL
two years ago. So he's up there in receptions in targets.
(08:50):
And I guess my question to you, unless another receiver
steps up and really starts to compliment him, and maybe
Cooper's doing enough.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Maybe you think he's doing enough. Now continue, like, can
they continue to just force feed this guy?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And how come defenses aren't doing a better job of
taking him away?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I think that's the question, Dave. I think when
you look at them, I don't think they're force feeding him.
I just think for some reason, defenses are not covering
him the way they should. You know, I mean, he is,
you're playing the Seahawks, you better take my thing. I'd
go into the defensive room and I'd say, Okay, I'm
not going to tell you how to run your defense
(09:28):
and everything, but one thing I want to see. I
want to see good coverage on this guy. I want
to see him bumped at the line of scrimmage. He
is killing people and right now he's seeing way too
many balls and he's open. He isn't. A lot of
them aren't close. They're good throws, but a lot of
times he's wide open, and so it's a little bit
(09:48):
of a puzzle. But I don't think I just think
that he first of all, he's really good. I mean
he's really good. And then I don't think that you're
going to see much change during the course of the
season unless teams say, we're he's not going to beat us.
He is not going to beat us.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
How good can this defense be this year? Coach?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think, you know what, I think they're really good.
They they and they could be even better, you know
when they get It's amazing to me again that you know,
two of their best defensive players did not play, you know,
could not play because of injury, and they still did
a great job. And the defensive line is allowing them,
(10:31):
allowing the defense to just just go nuts. I mean
that they really are good on defense. And give credit
to the head coach. That's his deal.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Hey, I know you're not on social media a lot.
I'm not totally convinced that you don't have a couple
of secret burner accounts on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
By the way, before you what's Twitter? What is that?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know what a burner account is?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
By the way, no, I don't know a burner account.
I don't know what Twitter is.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
To keep going, well, did you see what Russell Wilson
did to Sean Payton or said to Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know if you caught this or I did.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, I read I read about it.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, Sean Payton telling Brian Dable he wishes they would
have saved Jackson Dart until their game with the Broncos
was over, which is an indirect shot at Russell Wilson
saying we'd rather see Russell Wilson than Jackson Dart. And
you know, to paraphrase, Russell Wilson goes on Twitter and
says up yours to Sean Payton, which I thought was great,
and it's like, my gut, where's that bit from Russell
(11:29):
for fifteen years? So Peyton says he didn't mean it
as a slight to Russell. Do you believe him when
he said that?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Not one not one bit. I think I think he
believed I know Sean, and you know what, but I
will say this coaches. You you you talked to the
opposing coaches and they had worked together at one time,
so they knew each other. So there are things that
come out. I'm surprised they got out in the open.
I don't know how that happened, you know, but but
(11:56):
you know, I.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Said he said, Peyton said in the public.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, oh he had his press conference or something.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yes, well, well suck you know, uh gee, you know what,
But Russell, I don't I don't blame Russell Wilson at all.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He you know, he I think he really wanted to Russell.
You know, you guys know Russell. He's he wants to
do well. He wants to be the star of the
show and have people love him and all that, and
it didn't work out in Denver, and so it still
sticks with him. He didn't forget that stuff. So when
the head coach comes out and blast you a little
bit or just throws a little slant at you, you know,
(12:37):
of course you're going to react. I thought it was
kind of well, it didn't surprise It surprised me a
little bit because he's so careful, Russell, so careful and
how he how.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
He he talks coach.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
There's a small handful of teams vying for the biggest
disasters in the world of sports, and the Jets are
one of them.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They're zero and seven and.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Aaron Glenn's probably on his way out, but he says
he's not naming a starting quarterback this week. Why because
he doesn't want to reveal his secrets to the Bengals.
Is that is that a savvy move or is that
just kind of meaningless?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I think it's kind of meaningless, you know, I mean
his his h if there is a if that was
if you had Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor or someone
like that and you weren't sure if that person was
going to play, and you know you had that guy's
a difference maker, then then you say, okay, you might
you might get a little cute with that, But no,
(13:33):
that doesn't mean anything. The other team goes about it.
I don't We don't care who plays quarterback. We see
what's on film and then that's the guy we're going
to go against. But uh, you know the Jets, you know,
and you're right there. I don't think you know Aaron Glenn.
I don't know Aaron that well. But you know, I'm
opposed to owners firing coaches after one year. I don't
(13:58):
like that. I don't think that's I don't think that's
fair at all, you know, because there's a lot of
reasons teams, you know, have a season like this, and
so it's not all a coach. But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, did what did Johnson try to hire you with
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Or was it somebody else that own the team?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Then no, it was Woody Johnson.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yea, he he what he.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Said about justin fields? No he said he said about
justin fields. If we can just complete a pass, it
would look pretty good. This is the owner of the Jets.
So you just say you don't like owners firing coaches.
How about owners ripping their quarterbacks? They decided to make
their starters over the offseason.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Oh no, that's you know, yeah, yeah, that's but you know, owners,
I was talking to somebody today. Owners. There are owners
that help you. They really help you. Paul Allen helped me,
you know, Eddie de Barlow with the forty nine ers.
I didn't have an owner in Green Bay, so Ron
(14:58):
Wolf helped me. You know, there are some owners that
don't help you. They decide to they involved themselves in
the football thing too much, and they want a draft.
They lean towards players in the draft, and you just go, okay,
but yeah, yep, Woody, you know what I almost went.
I almost went, I will be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, Well, good thing you didn't, Mike. We got to run.
We're up against the clock. For hockey. Great stuff. Hope
you feel better and hope to see you in a week.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
All right, man, coach, all right, Bud, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
All right man. Mike Homeran with us on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, you think your team's a disaster, just go look
at the Jets and the meadow Lands and how bad
they've been for as long as they've been.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Hey, we got cracking hockey.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Speaking of the Jets, here we go win a peg
and a boys boys looking for a win snapping a
little two game losing streak here from Winnipeg. Mike Benton
Everett fits you big, al Kaniski Baby. We'll take you
the rest of the way and we'll talk to tomorrow
at three o'clock right here on ninety three to three KJRFN.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Big thanks for the five twenty four and grill bye.
As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL,
Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks
head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Combrin. Brought to
you by Toyota of Kirkland. The championship team at Toyota
of Kirkland does all the little things that exceed your
expectations and that's what makes Toyota of Kirkland so special.
(00:20):
And by R and R Foundation specialist serving Western Washington
for over twenty years now from the five twenty Bar
and Grill in Bellevue, Mike Holmgrin went softie and did.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
How about that?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
We got to get Mike Hombran's take on that. By
the way, rig poker games funded by the mafia. Apparently
they were wearing like these X ray glasses and special
content X ray table so they could see it really hard.
And the car, Mike, Just when you think the world's
getting crazy, it gets even crazier.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
My friend, how you doing, man.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm doing good and I will tell you this. Playing
in poker games was really fun. It in college? Did it?
Did it?
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
When we were at bau Co coaches and we get
some guys at night. But uh it was. It wasn't rigged,
and there wasn't piles of money floating or out. Why goodness,
that was a story.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Oh, coach, let's take it to the NFL. How concerned
should we be about NFL players NFL? What about NFL
offensive coordinators calling plays?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
How should we be? How rigged?
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Or concerns would be about those guys rigging games?
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Uh? You know what, I would trust that wouldn't happen.
But you know, when this, there was a time when
I first got into it, I couldn't even if I
went to Las Vegas or Lake Tahoa or someplace, I
couldn't even walk into a sportsbook. I couldn't. And so
the thing is, you guys, well know it's really changed.
And I thought when it changed, I thought there was
(01:53):
a chance the thing was to get off the rails
just a little bit. And if this is any indication
of oh, this is bad, though, this is really bad.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean Billips is if he doesn't turn
over Benny bats and Tommy two fingers, he's going to
prison man and maybe for a long time. So crazy
story down there in Portland, no doubt about it. But
Mike speaking a crazy at game time. Actually around five
point thirty on Monday night before the Seahawks and Texans played.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
It was fifty dollars to get.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
In the door for the Seahawk Texan game because the
Mariners were playing in Game seven of the ALCS at
the exact same time. So I don't even know. I mean,
I haven't seen any ratings from the game on Monday. Dick,
you were there and you said there were some open seats.
It was obvious there were open seats in the stadium
on Monday. I mean, you know, do the players feel
that because there was a point there was a part
(02:44):
of the game of Monday that kind of was a
little sloppy from a Seahawk perspective, and I wonder if
that kind of rubbed off on him indirectly.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
You know what. And that's a good, good thought, good question,
because it's different when you don't have I don't know,
you know, it's hard for me to under believe that
you didn't have a lot of noise in the normal
stuff in the stadium. But I remember playing in some stadiums,
and Lo Saint Louis was the worst that I can
remember in the first half, and we were the visiting
(03:12):
team saying upstairs, it's weird down here. Can you guys
hear anything up there? This is really different, and I
think it affects people. It certainly affected me, and it
affected the players, I think a little bit. But you
know what I'm with you day one the Mariners listen,
that was history having a chance to really be something,
(03:35):
and the fact that they got there and this city
and how they backed the Mariners and those fans that
are baseball fans and they're there all the time. Yeah,
I was going back and forth and Kathy couldn't even
watch the game. She gets, she gets, you know, let's
get stressed out. And so it was special. It doesn't
surprise me that it took some of the stuff, some
(03:57):
of the adventure out of the Seak game.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Well.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Maybe the most bizarre play of the game was Sam
Donald fumbling in his own end zone for a touchdown.
I would love to get your take of what your
face would look like and what the conversation would be
like when Sam Donald walked through the sidelines, and would
you go up to him and talk to him or
would you leave him alone on a play After a
(04:23):
play like that.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
I probably shouldn't go up to him, but I think
I would have, and and I was thinking about, actually,
I was thinking about how would I handle this, because
you guys like to ask me these questions when I
get fired up. But you know, I would probably say,
you're kidding me, aren't you? What did I just see?
(04:47):
What did I just see you do? And trying to
get him to you know, okay. I learned a lot.
I learned a lot from Bill walshto when he'd Joe
Montaner Steve where somebody would do something crazy on the
field and he'd be Randy be ranting on the phone
with me. Guy, I'd be in the you know, I
discream it and then the player to come over to
(05:08):
him and he goes, how's it going out there and
kind of calm things down. He never I go why
does he talk to the Why is he yelling at me?
I'm not out there playing right?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Well?
Speaker 3 (05:18):
He's One of the weirdest things from the game Monday
is the referee keeping Jackson Smith and Jigbuff from getting
his ass kicked by a plethora of Houston Texan players
on the sideline.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Did you see that? And have you ever seen a.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Referee protect a player like that from the opposing.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Team, never never seen it. No, and then he was no.
I you know, I don't think he would have escalated
because he's you know, he's not a big, big guy
and you know, but the fact that he hopped in
there and and did that, I was impressed. Maybe maybe
they're coming around. I wish they would handle their calls
(05:54):
like they'd handle that. I mean, because she whiz that.
I think the officiating this year is is they're not
They're not getting good grades. I will say that, why.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Do you think?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Well, I was gonna ask you something else, but why
do you think that is? I mean, why do you, like,
do you think the officiating is worse this year than
it's been in a while? And if so, why do
you what do you attribute that to?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Well? I think it is. I I'm watching games and
I said, yeah, I wouldn't call that, you know, interference
or you know they're they're I think they're calling the
game tighter. I always was worried about you know, they
come into the meet with the coaches before the game
and they go okay, and then now you'd have some
questions or some you might have something like I some
(06:35):
team would you know they they do lineup all sides
on defense. This team, they do it all the time.
It's never called. Would you watch that please? Or I'd
say a couple of things nicely to them. Okay, then
you know what would happen. What would happen is I'd
get called for that turning game that was the play
I go with a minute, I talk to you about
their they doing that. I'm not me, you know, and
(06:58):
so but I I just it's a little picky picky
right now, and too many calls, too many officiating calls,
and they have a tendency to adjust those during the
season if it's happening too much, which is a good thing.
Speaker 5 (07:12):
Coach, You've had a lot of different quarterbacks on the
scale of risk taking, the less risk guys, of course,
Brett probably the most risk guy, and everywhere in between.
Where is Sam Darnold on that list? Because it does
seem like he likes to push the envelope and sometimes
it is a great ball and sometimes it.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Gets picked off.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
He is he the type of risk taker you like
or is he more risky than you'd like?
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Well? Right now, well, I think first of all, I
like him, you know that, And then I think he's
having I think he's off to a great start. I
think this team is doing well. You know, but I
would say this to your point. You know, it's yeah,
he throws some passes that you know, he's been so
good and then all of a sudden, why do you
(08:00):
why to do that? You know, in my mind, why
did you do that? And so I think there's some
work there. There's some man he knows that. The thing
another thing I like about the young man, and he
seems to know that. You know. He puts it on
the South and the guys that are willing to change,
and I go back too far. If he's willing to
change finally, before I died, you know that. You know,
(08:26):
I think Sam does that. He works hard at doing that.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Mike Home, Griun's with us, and Mike, I got to
ask you about Jackson Smith and Jigba. He's on pace
for one hundred and seventy targets, which I think is
like thirty more than DK metcalf ever got when he
was here in Seattle. Would have been number two in
the NFL a year ago, number three in the NFL
two years ago. So he's up there in receptions in targets.
(08:50):
And I guess my question to you, unless another receiver
steps up and really starts to compliment him, and maybe
Cooper's doing enough.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Maybe you think he's doing enough. Now continue, like, can
they continue to just force feed this guy?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And how come defenses aren't doing a better job of
taking him away?
Speaker 4 (09:07):
Well, I think that's the question, Dave. I think when
you look at them, I don't think they're force feeding him.
I just think for some reason, defenses are not covering
him the way they should. You know, I mean, he is,
you're playing the Seahawks, you better take my thing. I'd
go into the defensive room and I'd say, Okay, I'm
not going to tell you how to run your defense
(09:28):
and everything, but one thing I want to see. I
want to see good coverage on this guy. I want
to see him bumped at the line of scrimmage. He
is killing people and right now he's seeing way too
many balls and he's open. He isn't. A lot of
them aren't close. They're good throws, but a lot of
times he's wide open, and so it's a little bit
(09:48):
of a puzzle. But I don't think I just think
that he first of all, he's really good. I mean
he's really good. And then I don't think that you're
going to see much change during the course of the
season unless teams say, we're he's not going to beat us.
He is not going to beat us.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
How good can this defense be this year? Coach?
Speaker 4 (10:08):
I think, you know what, I think they're really good.
They they and they could be even better, you know
when they get It's amazing to me again that you know,
two of their best defensive players did not play, you know,
could not play because of injury, and they still did
a great job. And the defensive line is allowing them,
(10:31):
allowing the defense to just just go nuts. I mean
that they really are good on defense. And give credit
to the head coach. That's his deal.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Hey, I know you're not on social media a lot.
I'm not totally convinced that you don't have a couple
of secret burner accounts on Twitter.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
By the way, before you what's Twitter? What is that?
Speaker 2 (10:54):
You know what a burner account is?
Speaker 4 (10:55):
By the way, no, I don't know a burner account.
I don't know what Twitter is.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
To keep going, well, did you see what Russell Wilson
did to Sean Payton or said to Sean Payton.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
I don't know if you caught this or I did.
Speaker 4 (11:07):
Yeah, I read I read about it.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah, Sean Payton telling Brian Dable he wishes they would
have saved Jackson Dart until their game with the Broncos
was over, which is an indirect shot at Russell Wilson
saying we'd rather see Russell Wilson than Jackson Dart. And
you know, to paraphrase, Russell Wilson goes on Twitter and
says up yours to Sean Payton, which I thought was great,
and it's like, my gut, where's that bit from Russell
(11:29):
for fifteen years? So Peyton says he didn't mean it
as a slight to Russell. Do you believe him when
he said that?
Speaker 4 (11:35):
Not one not one bit. I think I think he
believed I know Sean, and you know what, but I
will say this coaches. You you you talked to the
opposing coaches and they had worked together at one time,
so they knew each other. So there are things that
come out. I'm surprised they got out in the open.
I don't know how that happened, you know, but but
(11:56):
you know, I.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Said he said, Peyton said in the public.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Yeah, oh he had his press conference or something.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Yes, well, well suck you know, uh gee, you know what,
But Russell, I don't I don't blame Russell Wilson at all.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
He you know, he I think he really wanted to Russell.
You know, you guys know Russell. He's he wants to
do well. He wants to be the star of the
show and have people love him and all that, and
it didn't work out in Denver, and so it still
sticks with him. He didn't forget that stuff. So when
the head coach comes out and blast you a little
bit or just throws a little slant at you, you know,
(12:37):
of course you're going to react. I thought it was
kind of well, it didn't surprise It surprised me a
little bit because he's so careful, Russell, so careful and
how he how.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
He he talks coach.
Speaker 5 (12:48):
There's a small handful of teams vying for the biggest
disasters in the world of sports, and the Jets are
one of them.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
They're zero and seven and.
Speaker 5 (12:57):
Aaron Glenn's probably on his way out, but he says
he's not naming a starting quarterback this week. Why because
he doesn't want to reveal his secrets to the Bengals.
Is that is that a savvy move or is that
just kind of meaningless?
Speaker 4 (13:12):
I think it's kind of meaningless, you know, I mean
his his h if there is a if that was
if you had Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor or someone
like that and you weren't sure if that person was
going to play, and you know you had that guy's
a difference maker, then then you say, okay, you might
you might get a little cute with that, But no,
(13:33):
that doesn't mean anything. The other team goes about it.
I don't We don't care who plays quarterback. We see
what's on film and then that's the guy we're going
to go against. But uh, you know the Jets, you know,
and you're right there. I don't think you know Aaron Glenn.
I don't know Aaron that well. But you know, I'm
opposed to owners firing coaches after one year. I don't
(13:58):
like that. I don't think that's I don't think that's
fair at all, you know, because there's a lot of
reasons teams, you know, have a season like this, and
so it's not all a coach. But we'll see what happens.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
Well, did what did Johnson try to hire you with
the Jets.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Or was it somebody else that own the team?
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Then no, it was Woody Johnson.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yea, he he what he.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Said about justin fields? No he said he said about
justin fields. If we can just complete a pass, it
would look pretty good. This is the owner of the Jets.
So you just say you don't like owners firing coaches.
How about owners ripping their quarterbacks? They decided to make
their starters over the offseason.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
Oh no, that's you know, yeah, yeah, that's but you know, owners,
I was talking to somebody today. Owners. There are owners
that help you. They really help you. Paul Allen helped me,
you know, Eddie de Barlow with the forty nine ers.
I didn't have an owner in Green Bay, so Ron
(14:58):
Wolf helped me. You know, there are some owners that
don't help you. They decide to they involved themselves in
the football thing too much, and they want a draft.
They lean towards players in the draft, and you just go, okay,
but yeah, yep, Woody, you know what I almost went.
I almost went, I will be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, Well, good thing you didn't, Mike. We got to run.
We're up against the clock. For hockey. Great stuff. Hope
you feel better and hope to see you in a week.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
All right, man, coach, all right, Bud, thank you very much.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
All right man. Mike Homeran with us on the radio show.
Speaker 3 (15:32):
Yeah, you think your team's a disaster, just go look
at the Jets and the meadow Lands and how bad
they've been for as long as they've been.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Hey, we got cracking hockey.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Speaking of the Jets, here we go win a peg
and a boys boys looking for a win snapping a
little two game losing streak here from Winnipeg. Mike Benton
Everett fits you big, al Kaniski Baby. We'll take you
the rest of the way and we'll talk to tomorrow
at three o'clock right here on ninety three to three KJRFN.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Big thanks for the five twenty four and grill bye.
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.