December 17, 2025 • 17 mins
FSR's Petros Papadakis joins to talk about UW's win over Boise St. the Sherrone Moore situation, and more shenanigans.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papadikas.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hello, softy, how are you? What's going on down there?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Not much, you know, just kind of slogging through the
end of the year. A lot of long shows, a
lot of yeah, a lot of content to be created,
a lot of bowl games, cracking at the foundation, yeah,
a lot of opt outs, a lot of ift ans
or butts and what have you.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
A lot of strands, a lot of strands on the
old duder's head.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, I'm sorry. We didn't see each other over the weekend.
Was in and out with the LA ball the Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Was a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I thought that you would call me, like since the
hotel was like right down the street from my house.
But I saw that you got in late at night
and then like a little bit, you went immediately to
the stadium like it was gonna leave or something.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, there was gonna be anybody there.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
First of all, we got in late Friday, which is
not a big deal, got up Saturday morning, had a
little breakfast and got in the uber and drove over
there at eleven o'clock for a show that began at
you know, one o'clock, and had to get set up
and get my bearings.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean a four hour pregame show. Yes, we do
a four hour pregame show. Correct.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Good who I am on the air for three of
those hours, and then I did sideline as well for
the game, and then then you flew up it to
Bob Rondau Tony Castracone. What happened to the sideline.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Lady a least Woodward? Yeah? I filled in for her,
she had other duties. Who's the play by Tony cast.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Tony Castraconi, And you know his color man, Cam.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Color man Giuseppe bona Fello. That was the guy he
had a year ago.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The hell all the dogs doing? Now? It's Cam Cleland,
you know Cam, the former tight end.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, he's the Uh, he's the color man for
Tony castra Cone on the Husky broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Cam. You stupid American idiots. So perfect, man, God, that
is so perfect.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Oh that's the way a radio broadcast should sound.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Don't you like yes, but well, they used to let
people drink in the booth. You know, he's really used
to get loose. But well, I mean Howard Cosell used
to be drunk. He barfed all over everybody's shoes once
a Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
How about Harry Carey drinking Budweiser's on the air like
a Bosh Shirtless you ever drink on the air, by
the way, you.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
On the radio? Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, it's okay for you.
But you know the guy pushing the buttons can't do it.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, I don't Cary, right, yeah, I got you, Just
like the lady says in Marked for Death, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't care him sell the drugs, the stadiums. That's
that stadium is. I don't know, man, I told you
it sucks. It's a monstrosity, is what it is. It's ridiculous. Yeah,
it's a giant monstrosity.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's it's cavernous, it's huge, it's not level, so you
never know where you're going. And if you're in the
media and you're not calling the game, you are made
to feel like a very small part of the flea
on the ass of a dog, right right, right, yeah,
it was. It was pretty damn big man. And how
(04:41):
about this that place. I mean, the one thing we have,
I know, sail gating and all that, and the experience
at Washington is a great experience for college football and everybody,
anybody who loves college football. Everybody should have that experience
once of going to Husky Stadium by the lake.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But you kind of got to cross your fingers.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And hope that it's a nice day, right because the
weather can get a little nasty in Seattle. Otherwise it
would be the most accessible city in the world to
everybody would want to be there. Jedfish's family wouldn't be
back in Tucson. And anyway, the point I'm trying to
makey we all I'm saying is one of the things
(05:27):
we have going for us here in southern California is
that the weather is almost never changing, not rarey seasonal.
I mean, it's a little chilly outside these days, sixties
and fifties, but the sun is still out every single day.
And we should play outdoor college football and pro football
(05:50):
for that matter, But both of our pro teams and
UCLA are all going to be under the roof in
Sofi and when the Olympics come in twenty twenty and
that's when it's coming right to LA twenty twenty eight,
they are gonna kick USC out of the coliseum. Yeah,
and the Paralympics are gonna be there, so that'll kick
(06:10):
it even further back.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So all four teams in town, all four football entities,
sc UCLA, the Rams, and the Chargers will all be
playing in that monstrosity, as you put it, that indoor
cavernous death hood will be in there for a whole
football season. It's stupid. I think you're gonna have seventy
(06:34):
five percent of the teams in Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You could literally fly a helicopter inside that thing and
jump out of it and open a parachute, that's how
deep that thing is.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But you know, look, it was good game. Husky's played well.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I suspect that Washington's probably not that much better
than Boise, but it was just that kind of day.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They looked a hell of a lot better.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, everybody's talking about Jed Fish up here now. You
know we we haven't spoken, by the way, since the
Sharon Moore thing came down, and it actually came down
as soon as you and I were done talking last week.
I was gonna call you back and see if you
wanted to hop on and give us a little take
on the Michigan thing, but figured you're too busy with
your own show down there and be bothered again, so
(07:15):
we didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I wish you would have. Well, now we can talk
about it now.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I mean, how about that Sharon Moore, coach of Michigan
out looking for a new guy, apparently Jed Fish. There's
a report out that he was on the list, and
now he's off the list because of some of my
list some some something got flagged.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I got no idea, But uh, what do you make
of what's going on in ann Arbor?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, first of all, to break into a house and
hold a butter knife to your neck and say you're
gonna kill yourself and that person's gonna watch and all that,
and the police being involved and all that's a little
bit different. But I gotta say, just because it was
a story, I thought back into my own life and
(08:01):
could think of at least seven or eight instances just
when I was at USC that coaches were with underlings
or people like that. Of course, this is before the
Internet and underlings is in people beneath the people that
worked in underage people. No, no underlings, people that work
(08:22):
in the athletic department and so on and so forth.
And you would sit in meetings and the coach would
be like, we're family, We're all family here, and then
it's like, well, coach, you know, I see your family
here at different events, and then I see you walking
around with that soccer intern around campus. So that part
of it I wish was more rare. I'm sure you
(08:44):
can think of certain instances in the past being involved
with football up there where this kind of thing has happened.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And that is the kind of thing that usually blows
me away, is that it never comes out, but everybody knows.
And this exploded into the world, and I got to
be honest, I didn't know about it. I had never
heard about it. And all of a sudden, like a
bunch of people that I knew were like, oh, yeah,
(09:14):
I knew about that in September, or yeah I heard
about that over the summer, and it's like, what no
one told me. I mean, I guess my world of
football is so obscure that unless it happens in Fresno,
I don't get a call about it.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, let me ask you this, because we went through
this with Sark, by the way, not on the same level.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't want to compare what Sark went.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
From him, but everybody knew he was a massive separate
people at USC.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
We knew what was going on with Sark. I never
found it, honestly, and maybe I aired. I never found
it my place to go on the air and report
or reveal that type of stuff until it became a
newsworthy item. And it became a newsworthy item when he
was at US obviously.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well remember there were russ about Pete Carroll and then
one day Charlie Weiss just came out and said something like,
who's having an affair? What?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, you never heard that? Look up? No, yeah, back
of the USC thing.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And Charlie Weiss was coaching a Notre Dame and he
said something about Pete having an affair, and Pete had
a very classy response and Charlie apologized immediately. But you
never want to be that person that crosses the line
it actually says something. I don't know what Pete was
doing or what he wasn't doing, but they were a
(10:31):
long time of rumors, and the only person that ever
said anything publicly.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Look it up, right, was Charlie White. I'll look it up.
I guess it. I guess totally happened. I guess.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
The question is, do you believe it's the media's job
to report what they see? It was two thousand and nine, okay,
But because a lot of a lot of what we
knew about sark frankly was because of access that we
had because we were the flagship station, like behind the
scenes stuff right that other media did not have access
to because they were not privy to these moments. Is
(11:03):
that my job to report that I saw Steve Sarkesian
drunk on stage in a recruiting banquet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, right, Yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Can allude to it, but to act like you have something,
You're not going to have a job for very long
if you do that, because you're given access and you're
halfway an employee and the line is blurry for you,
and unless somebody you want to give people the benefit
of the doubt, unless their life completely explodes and it
(11:32):
becomes a gigantic story. But I was just as surprised
because I mean, I don't live anywhere near ann Arbor,
but the people. There's a lot of people around me
that knew that was happening. And I was very surprised
at the depth and breadth of that story and the
fact that first of all, no one bothered to tell me,
and second.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Of all they should tell you. No.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I mean, I'm not the title to it, but it's
just I was surprised how many people were like, oh, yeah,
I knew that, and that would that you know, not
that he was going to go hold a butter knife
to his head, but you know the other part.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, well you know and the and the and the
jetfish angle. You look, I mean he's he's on the
list or he was on the list. Uh, he's never
lasted anywhere long. I've said, just remember that, of course,
I And that's why it's a topic. I've said on
this show that I do think that Michigan would have
to go pretty far down the list before they would
offer it to Jed. And we had a guy on yesterday,
(12:25):
our buddy Rico Beard from Detroit, who had the great line.
He said that Jed is like the backup prom date
at Michigan that if everything else falls through, call Jed
and you know he'll take the gig.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But I guess he's off the list now.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So well, they're going to try to hold together their
football empire with money, which is what they have anyway,
and try to hold together their recruiting classes and all
that different stuff, and say that this guy was a
figurehead or whatever. We're going to hire somebody else and
control the program from above. But they need a new
athletic director too, right, yes, yes, and a president well,
(12:59):
no president right now.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Ward manuals the ad, but the theory is that they're
not going to hire anybody until this investigation is over
because they don't even know if they're gonna let Ward
Manual make the hire.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well, I hope it was worth that hardball championship. I'm
sure many people will say that it was. I would, Well,
would you say it was?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Sure? I guess yeah, they beat Ohio State all those years.
I'm seeing I'm seeing usc I was the only person
that didn't know. Yeah, somebody else knew about it. I'm
sensing that you headed white girl will take down a
coach any day.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're saying that happen. You're saying that you didn't know,
and everybody else did know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Everybody else seemed to know. I guess you're not in
the know. How about I don't know, I don't know
why you would talk to me.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
How about USC announcing that they're resigning players now, it's
a new nild. I've seen a lot of this if
you follow teams on Instagram or whatever on Twitter, they
they announced the re signing of players now, like this
guy's coming back. Because I guess numerically, it's just is
likely that a guy will come back that he will leave.
(14:04):
So if somebody's coming back, it's always a question is
that guy coming back to school? Somebody's got to pay him.
And one of the words that you hear these coaches
saying these days that we never used to say because
it didn't exist in college football was retention. Right that
retention is.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
A much bigger part of the transfer portal than most
people because everybody likes what's new and something that's coming
that they haven't seen before. But retention, keeping people in
your program speaking the same language developed by the same
coaches ideally is a much bigger deal. So I guess
it's a good thing. But yeah, the announcements are kind
(14:42):
of tiresome.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, Well, speaking of Pete, he's really struggling man down
in Vegas. Yeah, yeah, he's having a heart's going to
make him fire his son?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Or do you think me that even Pete Carroll might
get fired a soft yet? I heard that Pete Carroll
might get fired. That would be twice now three years.
How about that? That's not great.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
How about somebody actually asking him that question if he
thought he was coaching for his job.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
When was the last time he heard a question like that?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Ask yourself this he was having a rougher time, Belicheck
or Carol?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh, boy, probably Pete. To be honest with you, what
are you banging back there? Oh, Matt just came in
every five signed my radio my radio partner. Yay, very
stop smacking the wall for crying out.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
My radio partner just comes in and well he didn't
even say hi to us. God, who do you think
is having a tougher time? They'll billy your PETI I
don't know. I mean I didn't have to go to
the adult cheerleader competition, and neither did Pete, but Bill did.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So is that a bad thing for Bill? That's a
little weird. I don't know. You think he'd quit knowing Pete?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
You think he'd just say this is not working and
I'm gonna just be done. No, I don't think he'd
do that. I don't think he'd quit. He'll wait till
they fire him.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
But if for any other reason other than contractually, it's
probably the smartest thing to do, and he might have
to fire Brennan Carroll, the old line coach. Yeah, you
think he'd whack his son. It wouldn't be the first time. Really,
didn't he whack him up there? I don't know. I
don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Him in Seattle. I don't think so. Whatever, dude, I
know everything. I don't know anything. No, I'm like you.
Nobody tells me anything.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I didn't know about the Michigan See, I had no
idea that Charlie Weis said I knew this since the summer.
Did he really? I didn't see that. Yeah he did.
That's that's kind of It.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Wasn't my place to say. But I knew he was
planting his seed. I knew he was plowing that field.
He no, not in so.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Many words, that'd be pretty damn Oh god, Okay, all right,
we gotta get out of here.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
All right, Well, you have a great night. Yeah, anything
else you want to offer, or you're done.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
No, I'm done. Okay, good stuff, Good luck with fish.
It's time for our weekly conversation with college football analyst
Petros Papadikas.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Not that I'm a smart guy, I'm stupid. Brought to
you by Sweet James Accident Attorneys forty one Hard. If
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 1 (00:29):
Now with Petros Peers Dave's softy moller.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Alrighty, boys and girls, here we go on a busy
Wednesday afternoon right here on ninety three three KJRFM. It
is our pleasure to welcome in one half of the
legendary Petros and Muddy show in Southern California, the Prince
of Pigskin, father of the Month, husband of the year,
USC superstar, My friend Petros Papadocus brought to you.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Bye, Sweet James.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
A spirit of justice, saman that can come through for
you and many others. If you've ever been in a
car accident or a motorcycle accident, and perhaps you've been
bitten by the balls on the balls, buy a dog
called Sweet James at eight hundred and nine million. That's
eight hundred and nine zero zero zero zero zero zero.
(01:21):
He can come through for you. Voted number one and
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hundred nine million, or sweet James dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:31):
Hello, softy, how are you? What's going on down there?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Not much, you know, just kind of slogging through the
end of the year. A lot of long shows, a
lot of yeah, a lot of content to be created,
a lot of bowl games, cracking at the foundation, yeah,
a lot of opt outs, a lot of ift ans
or butts and what have you.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
A lot of strands, a lot of strands on the
old duder's head.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
Yeah, I'm sorry. We didn't see each other over the weekend.
Was in and out with the LA ball the Yeah, that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Was a little bit disappointed.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I thought that you would call me, like since the
hotel was like right down the street from my house.
But I saw that you got in late at night
and then like a little bit, you went immediately to
the stadium like it was gonna leave or something.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Okay, there was gonna be anybody there.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
First of all, we got in late Friday, which is
not a big deal, got up Saturday morning, had a
little breakfast and got in the uber and drove over
there at eleven o'clock for a show that began at
you know, one o'clock, and had to get set up
and get my bearings.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I mean a four hour pregame show. Yes, we do
a four hour pregame show. Correct.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Good who I am on the air for three of
those hours, and then I did sideline as well for
the game, and then then you flew up it to
Bob Rondau Tony Castracone. What happened to the sideline.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Lady a least Woodward? Yeah? I filled in for her,
she had other duties. Who's the play by Tony cast.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Tony Castraconi, And you know his color man, Cam.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Color man Giuseppe bona Fello. That was the guy he
had a year ago.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
The hell all the dogs doing? Now? It's Cam Cleland,
you know Cam, the former tight end.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
Yeah, yeah, he's the Uh, he's the color man for
Tony castra Cone on the Husky broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Cam. You stupid American idiots. So perfect, man, God, that
is so perfect.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Oh that's the way a radio broadcast should sound.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Don't you like yes, but well, they used to let
people drink in the booth. You know, he's really used
to get loose. But well, I mean Howard Cosell used
to be drunk. He barfed all over everybody's shoes once
a Monday night football.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
How about Harry Carey drinking Budweiser's on the air like
a Bosh Shirtless you ever drink on the air, by
the way, you.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
On the radio? Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, it's okay for you.
But you know the guy pushing the buttons can't do it.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Yeah, I don't Cary, right, yeah, I got you, Just
like the lady says in Marked for Death, I don't care.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
I don't care him sell the drugs, the stadiums. That's
that stadium is. I don't know, man, I told you
it sucks. It's a monstrosity, is what it is. It's ridiculous. Yeah,
it's a giant monstrosity.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
It's it's cavernous, it's huge, it's not level, so you
never know where you're going. And if you're in the
media and you're not calling the game, you are made
to feel like a very small part of the flea
on the ass of a dog, right right, right, yeah,
it was. It was pretty damn big man. And how
(04:41):
about this that place. I mean, the one thing we have,
I know, sail gating and all that, and the experience
at Washington is a great experience for college football and everybody,
anybody who loves college football. Everybody should have that experience
once of going to Husky Stadium by the lake.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
But you kind of got to cross your fingers.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
And hope that it's a nice day, right because the
weather can get a little nasty in Seattle. Otherwise it
would be the most accessible city in the world to
everybody would want to be there. Jedfish's family wouldn't be
back in Tucson. And anyway, the point I'm trying to
makey we all I'm saying is one of the things
(05:27):
we have going for us here in southern California is
that the weather is almost never changing, not rarey seasonal.
I mean, it's a little chilly outside these days, sixties
and fifties, but the sun is still out every single day.
And we should play outdoor college football and pro football
(05:50):
for that matter, But both of our pro teams and
UCLA are all going to be under the roof in
Sofi and when the Olympics come in twenty twenty and
that's when it's coming right to LA twenty twenty eight,
they are gonna kick USC out of the coliseum. Yeah,
and the Paralympics are gonna be there, so that'll kick
(06:10):
it even further back.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
So all four teams in town, all four football entities,
sc UCLA, the Rams, and the Chargers will all be
playing in that monstrosity, as you put it, that indoor
cavernous death hood will be in there for a whole
football season. It's stupid. I think you're gonna have seventy
(06:34):
five percent of the teams in Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
You could literally fly a helicopter inside that thing and
jump out of it and open a parachute, that's how
deep that thing is.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
But you know, look, it was good game. Husky's played well.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
And I suspect that Washington's probably not that much better
than Boise, but it was just that kind of day.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
They looked a hell of a lot better.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Well, everybody's talking about Jed Fish up here now. You
know we we haven't spoken, by the way, since the
Sharon Moore thing came down, and it actually came down
as soon as you and I were done talking last week.
I was gonna call you back and see if you
wanted to hop on and give us a little take
on the Michigan thing, but figured you're too busy with
your own show down there and be bothered again, so
(07:15):
we didn't do it.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
I wish you would have. Well, now we can talk
about it now.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
I mean, how about that Sharon Moore, coach of Michigan
out looking for a new guy, apparently Jed Fish. There's
a report out that he was on the list, and
now he's off the list because of some of my
list some some something got flagged.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Whatever that means.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
I got no idea, But uh, what do you make
of what's going on in ann Arbor?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Man?
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, first of all, to break into a house and
hold a butter knife to your neck and say you're
gonna kill yourself and that person's gonna watch and all that,
and the police being involved and all that's a little
bit different. But I gotta say, just because it was
a story, I thought back into my own life and
(08:01):
could think of at least seven or eight instances just
when I was at USC that coaches were with underlings
or people like that. Of course, this is before the
Internet and underlings is in people beneath the people that
worked in underage people. No, no underlings, people that work
(08:22):
in the athletic department and so on and so forth.
And you would sit in meetings and the coach would
be like, we're family, We're all family here, and then
it's like, well, coach, you know, I see your family
here at different events, and then I see you walking
around with that soccer intern around campus. So that part
of it I wish was more rare. I'm sure you
(08:44):
can think of certain instances in the past being involved
with football up there where this kind of thing has happened.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
And that is the kind of thing that usually blows
me away, is that it never comes out, but everybody knows.
And this exploded into the world, and I got to
be honest, I didn't know about it. I had never
heard about it. And all of a sudden, like a
bunch of people that I knew were like, oh, yeah,
(09:14):
I knew about that in September, or yeah I heard
about that over the summer, and it's like, what no
one told me. I mean, I guess my world of
football is so obscure that unless it happens in Fresno,
I don't get a call about it.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Well, let me ask you this, because we went through
this with Sark, by the way, not on the same level.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
I don't want to compare what Sark went.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
From him, but everybody knew he was a massive separate
people at USC.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
We knew what was going on with Sark. I never
found it, honestly, and maybe I aired. I never found
it my place to go on the air and report
or reveal that type of stuff until it became a
newsworthy item. And it became a newsworthy item when he
was at US obviously.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Well remember there were russ about Pete Carroll and then
one day Charlie Weiss just came out and said something like,
who's having an affair? What?
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Yeah, you never heard that? Look up? No, yeah, back
of the USC thing.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
And Charlie Weiss was coaching a Notre Dame and he
said something about Pete having an affair, and Pete had
a very classy response and Charlie apologized immediately. But you
never want to be that person that crosses the line
it actually says something. I don't know what Pete was
doing or what he wasn't doing, but they were a
(10:31):
long time of rumors, and the only person that ever
said anything publicly.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Look it up, right, was Charlie White. I'll look it up.
I guess it. I guess totally happened. I guess.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
The question is, do you believe it's the media's job
to report what they see? It was two thousand and nine, okay,
But because a lot of a lot of what we
knew about sark frankly was because of access that we
had because we were the flagship station, like behind the
scenes stuff right that other media did not have access
to because they were not privy to these moments. Is
(11:03):
that my job to report that I saw Steve Sarkesian
drunk on stage in a recruiting banquet.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
No, right, Yeah, I mean you.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Can allude to it, but to act like you have something,
You're not going to have a job for very long
if you do that, because you're given access and you're
halfway an employee and the line is blurry for you,
and unless somebody you want to give people the benefit
of the doubt, unless their life completely explodes and it
(11:32):
becomes a gigantic story. But I was just as surprised
because I mean, I don't live anywhere near ann Arbor,
but the people. There's a lot of people around me
that knew that was happening. And I was very surprised
at the depth and breadth of that story and the
fact that first of all, no one bothered to tell me,
and second.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Of all they should tell you. No.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I mean, I'm not the title to it, but it's
just I was surprised how many people were like, oh, yeah,
I knew that, and that would that you know, not
that he was going to go hold a butter knife
to his head, but you know the other part.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Yeah, well you know and the and the and the
jetfish angle. You look, I mean he's he's on the
list or he was on the list. Uh, he's never
lasted anywhere long. I've said, just remember that, of course,
I And that's why it's a topic. I've said on
this show that I do think that Michigan would have
to go pretty far down the list before they would
offer it to Jed. And we had a guy on yesterday,
(12:25):
our buddy Rico Beard from Detroit, who had the great line.
He said that Jed is like the backup prom date
at Michigan that if everything else falls through, call Jed
and you know he'll take the gig.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
But I guess he's off the list now.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
So well, they're going to try to hold together their
football empire with money, which is what they have anyway,
and try to hold together their recruiting classes and all
that different stuff, and say that this guy was a
figurehead or whatever. We're going to hire somebody else and
control the program from above. But they need a new
athletic director too, right, yes, yes, and a president well,
(12:59):
no president right now.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Ward manuals the ad, but the theory is that they're
not going to hire anybody until this investigation is over
because they don't even know if they're gonna let Ward
Manual make the hire.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Well, I hope it was worth that hardball championship. I'm
sure many people will say that it was. I would, Well,
would you say it was?
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Sure? I guess yeah, they beat Ohio State all those years.
I'm seeing I'm seeing usc I was the only person
that didn't know. Yeah, somebody else knew about it. I'm
sensing that you headed white girl will take down a
coach any day.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
You're saying that happen. You're saying that you didn't know,
and everybody else did know.
Speaker 2 (13:36):
Everybody else seemed to know. I guess you're not in
the know. How about I don't know, I don't know
why you would talk to me.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
How about USC announcing that they're resigning players now, it's
a new nild. I've seen a lot of this if
you follow teams on Instagram or whatever on Twitter, they
they announced the re signing of players now, like this
guy's coming back. Because I guess numerically, it's just is
likely that a guy will come back that he will leave.
(14:04):
So if somebody's coming back, it's always a question is
that guy coming back to school? Somebody's got to pay him.
And one of the words that you hear these coaches
saying these days that we never used to say because
it didn't exist in college football was retention. Right that
retention is.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
A much bigger part of the transfer portal than most
people because everybody likes what's new and something that's coming
that they haven't seen before. But retention, keeping people in
your program speaking the same language developed by the same
coaches ideally is a much bigger deal. So I guess
it's a good thing. But yeah, the announcements are kind
(14:42):
of tiresome.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Yeah, Well, speaking of Pete, he's really struggling man down
in Vegas. Yeah, yeah, he's having a heart's going to
make him fire his son?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Or do you think me that even Pete Carroll might
get fired a soft yet? I heard that Pete Carroll
might get fired. That would be twice now three years.
How about that? That's not great.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
How about somebody actually asking him that question if he
thought he was coaching for his job.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
When was the last time he heard a question like that?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Ask yourself this he was having a rougher time, Belicheck
or Carol?
Speaker 4 (15:14):
Oh, boy, probably Pete. To be honest with you, what
are you banging back there? Oh, Matt just came in
every five signed my radio my radio partner. Yay, very
stop smacking the wall for crying out.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
My radio partner just comes in and well he didn't
even say hi to us. God, who do you think
is having a tougher time? They'll billy your PETI I
don't know. I mean I didn't have to go to
the adult cheerleader competition, and neither did Pete, but Bill did.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
So is that a bad thing for Bill? That's a
little weird. I don't know. You think he'd quit knowing Pete?
Speaker 4 (15:56):
You think he'd just say this is not working and
I'm gonna just be done. No, I don't think he'd
do that. I don't think he'd quit. He'll wait till
they fire him.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
But if for any other reason other than contractually, it's
probably the smartest thing to do, and he might have
to fire Brennan Carroll, the old line coach. Yeah, you
think he'd whack his son. It wouldn't be the first time. Really,
didn't he whack him up there? I don't know. I
don't remember that.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Him in Seattle. I don't think so. Whatever, dude, I
know everything. I don't know anything. No, I'm like you.
Nobody tells me anything.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
I didn't know about the Michigan See, I had no
idea that Charlie Weis said I knew this since the summer.
Did he really? I didn't see that. Yeah he did.
That's that's kind of It.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Wasn't my place to say. But I knew he was
planting his seed. I knew he was plowing that field.
He no, not in so.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
Many words, that'd be pretty damn Oh god, Okay, all right,
we gotta get out of here.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
All right, Well, you have a great night. Yeah, anything
else you want to offer, or you're done.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
No, I'm done. Okay, good stuff, Good luck with fish.
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