July 24, 2024 • 21 mins
Petros Papadakis from Fox Sports in Los Angeles joins Dave Softy Mahler to discuss DeShaun Foster at UCLA, Kalen DeBoer making his return to the radio yesterday with Softy, Jedd Fisch taking over at Washington, and Pete Carroll missing Training Camp.
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It's time for our weekly conversation withcollege football analyst Petros Papa Nakas. Not
that I'm a smart guy, I'mstupid. Brought to you by Sweet James
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don't know now with Petros, Here'sDave Softie Muller. All right it,
boys and girls, here we golive from Seahawk training camp at the Virginia
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on the air. Man. It'salways an honor, always hashtag blessed,
always a pleasure. Welcome in thevoice of sports in Southern California. One
damn fine Greek American and one ofthe legends of the USC football family,
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our friend Petros Papadocus. Brought toyou by the one and only Sweet James
Burginer, the dense beard of justice. Oh what a personal injury attorney he
is. He can come through foryou. If you've ever been hurting an
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eight hundred nine million, that's eighthundred and nine heeroo zero zero zero zero
or Sweet James dot com, HelloSofty, Hello Seattle. You know first
with that little pregnant pause there,I thought, oh, yeah, I
know, I know who did welose him? Is he gone? Oh?
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He did that on purpose? Dnoll. I thought you were gonna ask
me if you know that was likeDeshaun Foster, Oh wow, what are
we going to do that at somepoint here or what. We played that
on Fun with Audio Today about ahalf an hour ago, actually about twenty
minutes ago, and I think hewas looking for a couple laughs that never
came. I wish that was thecase. You think he's just that bad.
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Well, he's been on the radioshow like three times since he's been
hired. And I know Deshaun fromfrom playing football against him back in the
day when legendary California running back outof Tustin High School in Orange County,
really good, great player at UCLAand a very good pro and very good
coach for all reports. And obviouslythe situation at UCLA was very fluid with
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Chip Kelly, and we can getinto that, as we've gotten into that
before. But he's been on theradio show before and I'm like, wow,
you know, there's needing media trainingand then there's what's going you know,
and we try, poor bastard,well, we'll make a point here,
but you know, you we wewant him to have a good time
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when he's on the air, andwe want him welcome people and make him
feel comfortable on the show, justlike you would interviewing anybody, especially a
coach of a local team. Andhe just can't get there, you know
what. You can tell that hewants to, but he it's rough.
So when I saw that today,I was like, wow, you know,
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that's really rough. I mean,And the worst part about it is
this is going to be the mosttalked about moment in the history of any
UCLA media day ever, right,I mean, chip Kelly could have defecated
on a table at the Sheraton inlax and no one we wouldn't. I
mean, that wouldn't even have madenews, right, I mean, but
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here it is the Big Ten.The very first day, the very morning
of it. Deshaun freezes up likeC three pop there And does that mean
anything about him as a football coach. I mean, you can make an
argument. I do know for afact. There are some of my favorite
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coaches that I've ever been around arenot very good media wise and did not
know how to communicate outside of thefootball world, if you know what I
mean. Yes, and there's certainguys that can really communicate outside of the
football world and they end up beinghead coaches, right or any kind of
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really really popular coach. Or there'sguys that can communicate outside of the football
world that were players that become broadcastersand stuff like that. But that could
very well be the case with theShawn. He's recruited very well. I
know that they're not paying him alot of money in lieu of paying chip
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Kelly a lot of money. Andhe left. And that's another thing too,
you know, chip Kelly, didn'tyou. I hate when people are
like, well, no one wantsto be a head coach anymore. Look
what happened with Chip Kelly. It'slike Chip Kelly didn't want to be the
head coach at U see LA anycorrect. He had a bad relationship with
the ad at UCLA. He didn'tfeel supported economically in recruiting and all these
other things at UCLA. That doesn'ttell everybody's story. That just tells Chip
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Kelly, Martin Jarmond story at UCLA. So that part of it all kind
of in the background when I watchwhat happened today. But man, I
feel bad. I wouldn't want tofly home after that. Well I felt
I felt that for him. Yeah, and it's interesting media day. Yeah,
well, I just I mean Iwatched the video. We played it
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on the air, obviously, andhe made the comment about how you know
we're from LA and then he stoppedas if he's just waiting for some kind
of laugh track to appear from themedia that never came and there was just
this long, uncomfortable pause. Soyeah, I mean, I would kind
of put a lot of that,to be honest with you, on UCLA's
pr people for not having the guyready. It's like he never wrote any
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kind of script or had any idea, what the hell he was going to
talk about whatsoever, and that maybe, like you said, behind the scenes
and recruiting, he's different when he'swith the family and not in front of
five hundred people. But I,for one, felt bad for the guy
today. I liked him, youknow, I felt really bad for him.
And that was my vibe too,that he went up there without a
plan and it just bombed. Itjust bombed. At a media day,
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we'll, you know, with usone of the longest standing UCLA PR guys
just retired, Steve Rock So,yeah, yeah, you know who was
on the show with us yesterday withme and Hugh Breedlove Millan. By the
way, who Kaylen de boor Ohthat's cool. How's he doing. He's
good, he's good. His daughter'sstill back here playing softball in Seattle and
he came on the show. We'vebeen trying to get Kaylan with us for
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a few months now. I gotit, and he wanted to kind of
separate himself from springball at UDUB kindof let that breathe a little bit.
And then there was this situation wherePennix showed up in Tuscaloosa like a month
and a half ago unannounced, andthey were putting pictures on social media with
him and recruits and a bunch ofSEC coaches were whining about a mind closed
doors. So Caylen said, let'slet that die down, and he popped
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out the here with us yesterday,and people were like, there were Husky
fans that were mad. They werepissed that what are you giving that guy
a platform? Yeah, they wereupset, what are you giving that guy
a platform for? Blah blah blah. And I kind of felt like,
you know, there were some unansweredquestions that we wanted to kind of get
through. And I don't have anyreal animosity towards him for leaving for Alabama.
He's twenty five and three in twoyears, and he whipped Oregans ass
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three times, including the two biggestgames in that rivalry's history. Caylen debore
Era for me was a success.Was I bummed he left? Absolutely?
But I don't know. Maybe Ishould be more pissed off at him for
taking off Petros. Why should yoube mad at him? Everybody else's shouldn't
be Presno be mad that he leftFresno for Washington. I don't think so
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should the people in Indiana be madthat he left as their coordinator for Fresno.
Uh, I don't think so.Yeah, I mean, I'm not
mad, Adam, I told you, but you are and I understand.
Maybe I don't. And somebody wastalking to me about you at the PAC
twelve or whatever it was the Pacttwo reception and Mountain We're talking to me,
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Yeah, somebody was asking me aboutyou. Who was talking about me?
I forget who it was, butthey were talking about you know,
how big of a football a fanyou are, and how that usually and
how you and I are friends andusually I find those people insufferable, right,
well, you know this about Imean, you know, find me
insufferable. No, but this haslong been our dynamic, you know what
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I mean, most people that arefans like you are insufferable. Okay.
But the truth is, I believeyou. You know what I mean,
I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know just something
about you. I believe you.I don't know what that means. Take
it for whatever he did. Andthat's why I guess I'm not super annoyed.
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I mean, sometimes on Twitter duringa game, I'm just like,
my god, you know, youget to tweet about every play. But
and I think that's basically what you'relooking at here, you're looking at I
mean, it's not like Kaylin deBoor grew up spearfishing in the sound.
You know you're in South Dakota,right. He's a football coach. It
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was there for two years or threeyears, and he was great, and
he brought the program to new heightsin the modern era, unseen since the
Dogfather. But he wasn't going tobe long for it, and the Alabama
job came open. And I don'treally know what you want from the guy.
I wish him all the success inthe world. I think it's wonderful
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that he came on and maintained therelationship and the same thing I said about
you, And I told you thiswhen he got the job, and you
can go back and check the tapes, those of you doubters and prisoners of
the moment. I told you whenhe got the job that Caylin de Boor
was a genuine great football coach anda person and somebody who was going to
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do good things there. And Icould not have envisioned what ended up happening
and that level of success. Buthow anybody could look down upon the guy
for and it's always messy when youleave, asked Jonathan Smith, and in
all on Petros, Petros, I'vegot guys, I've got fans, listeners
texting me, tweeting me that arecalling him a snake, yeah, and
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a fraud. Well it's just amyopic way of looking at things. But
these are the people that make upa fan base. These are the people
that wear dog noses and bark atyou when you run through the tunnel.
So it's a necessary evil in ourbusiness. I mean, you have to
have the tunnel vision fans or wecan't really have a sport, you know
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what I mean. Oh god,I'm thinking of all the old like Washington,
the Redskins fans that were the pignoses back in the day, hig
noses, the watermelon heads, thehomes, the cheeseheads. Yeah, I
mean that's what That's what makes upour sport. You know, you He's
all the big words you want,But at the bottom line is these are
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the people that are listening to theshows. And absolutely that you've seen the
averages, right, more perspective.They don't get to know these people as
people the way we do and right, and I get that, and I've
met Kaylan. You've met Kaylan andbehind the scenes, phenomenal guy, all
that stuff. And if you're goingto ever lose a coach, you know,
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Alabama or a place like Michigan orthe NFL is a place that you
would lose them to. And Ithink, you know, look, you
know, we asked him about notpenning a goodbye letter on Twitter, which
Jed Fish did, and he gotbarbecued by Arizona fans and some fans are
mad that Calin de Moore never said. Look, Jonathan Smith. They hate
him over there right now. Andhe's a hero of Beaver football. He'll
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go down in the annals as oneof the greatest Oregon State coaches and players
and representatives of the program of alltime. But it's life changing, generational
money for him and his family togo somewhere else. Now. The timing,
you know, that's cruel in collegefootball. Maybe if things were done
a little bit differently, he wouldended up as the Washington head coach and
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we'd be even more excited about Washingtonfootball, I think. But the fan
bases are myopic and that's how it'sgoing to be, and they take out
things in their lives on figures onthe football team or on the field,
and they don't think of the videogames and the fantasy football and the TV
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vibe of the whole thing really doestake away the humanity of the sport.
And that's okay because the sport isstupid in the first place. It's a
bunch of people in plastic outfits bunkinginto each other. Happy Media Day.
Yeah, we're not there. MaybeDeshaun Foster freezing up there was the most
honest thing that we're at. Hey, the guys uncomfortable in front of big
crowds. What do you want fromus? Uh? Petro's with us.
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Yeah, I've kind of bummed thatwe're not there. By the way,
at media Day, you know,going to La going to the old that's
gonna get day three. I wouldn'thave gone there for all three days.
We would have gone there just fortomorrow when when U dub is out there
with I think with Oregon and I'mnot sure the other four schools, but
they they split it up into threedays, and we would have had to
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have missed a show going out thereand then coming back. It's hard to
get there from the two oh sixman if I were Jedfish, I'd do
the Deshaun Foster speech word for wordinstead of saying, you know, we're
out there in the Northwest in Seattle, Oregon. You know we're in Seattle,
and then wait for a laugh.That would be hilarious. I'm with
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you. If he just went outthere and just said, we're right,
we're south of Vancouver, north ofPortland. You can get to Alaska from
us, take a boat. I'mjust excited. Any questions, Oh god,
how long do you think he'll beat Washington for? Honestly, the
fish, the fish, the fishthat save Motlake. Well, you know,
how long does a fish stay goodand you're refrigerated, frozen, frozen
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forever? I mean, you knowwhat I mean. I don't know,
you know, I don't know.Maybe they should put Jed one of those
cryo tanks with Ted Williams. Whenhe took over in Arizona and he had
Rob Grunkowski drop a like Empire strikesback right exactly when he had Grobkowski drop
the football out of the helicopter,remember that, and all the reach around
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guys like Bruce Feldman and stuff wereon Twitter like jud fishes turned it around
and I was like, what youknow, shut up? Yeah, I
remember that. And you know what, he did turn it around? I
mean he turned He went and recruited, He dug out those guys at a
survey. He finally, begrudgingly endedup starting the right guy, even though
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he didn't have the measurements in Fafida, and they had success that I did
not see coming. They played reallygood defense that complimented their offense, and
they ran the hell out of theball. And he did turn Arizona around.
Now, do I admit that Iwas wrong? Yes? Yeah?
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Does it bother me a little?Hey? No, Pete Carroll today,
what's that like? Huh ah,dude, it's weird. Man. Did
you wake up this morning and feelover on the other side of the bed
and realize his big chin wasn't there? To condescend to you, I was
patting the bed looking for Pete andhe wasn't there. I bet you he
loves pretty geeked. He's pretty firedup. He says, we have the
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best defensive mind on the planet rightnow. And Mike McDonald I remember seeing
him one time. He was theDC at Michigan when Jimmy Lake went out
there and we got destroyed by theWolverines. That was JJ McCarthy. They
threw the ball like nine times andwent for three hundred and eighty on the
ground or whatever it was, andjust beautiful ripped our ass up. And
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their defensive coordinator was Mike McDonald.Now he's the head coach of the Seahawks.
What do you think your buddy PeteCarroll's thinking today? For first time
and how many years he has notbeen at a training camp, whether Kyler
ger pro the bitterness is real,you think so? I think he's very
upset because he wanted to be Hewanted to coach, He didn't want to
not be there, and then hewanted ahead job somewhere else. He stuck
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his big chin into the San Diegosituation and wiggled it around. Excuse me,
the La Chargers. You gotta stopwith the chin, man. You're
killing me all right? Well whatever, killing me with a chin just an
incredibly smooth face for a man thatage. So you think he was only
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coming back for a head coaching gig. Yeah, he's Pete Carroll. You
met Pete Carroll advisor gig whatever.No, he was so excited about the
advisor gig with the Seahawks, hecried, and now is he there advising?
I don't see him. Remember theykicked him upstairs. And then he
said, I got fired. That'sright. And his statement was like,
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I'm so jacked. That's how That'show excited he is about an advisor role.
He cracked his horse. Oh god, why be about it. I'm
not mad at you. You gotto run his defensive mind in the history
of football. Accordingly we do,and we got Ryan Grubb. How about
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that. That's pretty good offensive mine. I know that. How do you
think he'll translate to the NFL?That'll be interesting. You know, people
ask the same thing about Chip Kelly, you know when they change the hash
marks. But I think you know, he gets people excited about offense and
excited about what you're doing. It'screative without being cute. And I think
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that's a good way to put it. Good way to put it. And
I think it makes sense to players. I think you could tell by the
way they run it that it makessense to players in the meetings, and
what you're trying to do with offenseis simplified for your players and make it
look complicated to the defense, rightand whatever reason or however he does it.
He does it. You know,you don't see a lot of illegal
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procedure and stuff like that with them, do you start? Right? And
they're doing a lot of stuff witha lot of window dressing, but with
some teeth behind it when they ranthe ball, for sure, especially when
they really needed to. So I'minterested in seeing how he works with the
hash marks. But I mean profootball is about matchups even more than college
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football is, so and that's grubsspecialty, right creating that, So I
think you'll have success. Sure?No, he he had to win a
lot of different styles of games whenhe was at Washington for sure, Oregon
State and the rain a s Ulower score, low scoring game, USC
high scoring game down there at thecoliseum. So good way to put it
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all, right, man, goodstuff, And that's why I did the
North Texas games. Brother, Comeon, you have your schedule yet now
you doing c W stuff? What'sso? What? No? I work
in Fox still. I thought youwere doing c W. No Oregon State
and Wazoo. No, No,you have your f S one schedule.
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Yeah, first game is what TexasTech Arizona No, No, Arizona State
Wyoming. Good game, that's awhopper. I like the game. I
saw the mayor and ask yourself whyyou're such a Oh God, I love
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you. I don't know if anybodyenjoys this idea. The hell with it,
man, God, I love you. Check it out. Check my
what your downloads? Okay, seehow many people stream it? Hey,
we had big numbers for Debor yesterday. Pale. Yeah, well your listeners
didn't want you to put it onbig that's right. Maybe we should do
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more stuff the listeners. Hey,all right, we gotta go. We'll
talk in a week. Man,I'll see. What I'd like you to
do is hit the paper with thedownload number on it, right, and
then stick your to it like askewer. You gotta get out of here,
man, all right, I havea breakdown. Everybody. Make sure
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you checked out Wyoming versus Arizona Stateon FS one, Petros, Papa Docas.
We're gonna break More to come fromthe Vmack and rejoins next
It's time for our weekly conversation withcollege football analyst Petros Papa Nakas. Not
that I'm a smart guy, I'mstupid. Brought to you by Sweet James
Accident Attorneys forty. If you're hurtingan accident, called Sweet James right away
at eight hundred, five hundred andfifty two hundred. Sweet James will be
sweet to you, but tough oninsurance companies that will bully you. I
(00:23):
don't know now with Petros, Here'sDave Softie Muller. All right it,
boys and girls, here we golive from Seahawk training camp at the Virginia
Mason Athletics Center, marw with Humellencoming up next segment right here on ninety
(00:44):
three to three KJRFM. Larry Stonejoins us at five talking to Maveners,
baseball and more on the program courtesyof the RAM but joining us right now
on the air. Man. It'salways an honor, always hashtag blessed,
always a pleasure. Welcome in thevoice of sports in Southern California. One
damn fine Greek American and one ofthe legends of the USC football family,
(01:08):
our friend Petros Papadocus. Brought toyou by the one and only Sweet James
Burginer, the dense beard of justice. Oh what a personal injury attorney he
is. He can come through foryou. If you've ever been hurting an
(01:30):
accident, motorcycle accident, maybe adog is beating your balls, whatever it
is, Sweet James knows exactly whatto do. Give him a call an
eight hundred nine million, that's eighthundred and nine heeroo zero zero zero zero
or Sweet James dot com, HelloSofty, Hello Seattle. You know first
with that little pregnant pause there,I thought, oh, yeah, I
know, I know who did welose him? Is he gone? Oh?
(01:53):
He did that on purpose? Dnoll. I thought you were gonna ask
me if you know that was likeDeshaun Foster, Oh wow, what are
we going to do that at somepoint here or what. We played that
on Fun with Audio Today about ahalf an hour ago, actually about twenty
minutes ago, and I think hewas looking for a couple laughs that never
came. I wish that was thecase. You think he's just that bad.
(02:23):
Well, he's been on the radioshow like three times since he's been
hired. And I know Deshaun fromfrom playing football against him back in the
day when legendary California running back outof Tustin High School in Orange County,
really good, great player at UCLAand a very good pro and very good
coach for all reports. And obviouslythe situation at UCLA was very fluid with
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Chip Kelly, and we can getinto that, as we've gotten into that
before. But he's been on theradio show before and I'm like, wow,
you know, there's needing media trainingand then there's what's going you know,
and we try, poor bastard,well, we'll make a point here,
but you know, you we wewant him to have a good time
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when he's on the air, andwe want him welcome people and make him
feel comfortable on the show, justlike you would interviewing anybody, especially a
coach of a local team. Andhe just can't get there, you know
what. You can tell that hewants to, but he it's rough.
So when I saw that today,I was like, wow, you know,
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that's really rough. I mean,And the worst part about it is
this is going to be the mosttalked about moment in the history of any
UCLA media day ever, right,I mean, chip Kelly could have defecated
on a table at the Sheraton inlax and no one we wouldn't. I
mean, that wouldn't even have madenews, right, I mean, but
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here it is the Big Ten.The very first day, the very morning
of it. Deshaun freezes up likeC three pop there And does that mean
anything about him as a football coach. I mean, you can make an
argument. I do know for afact. There are some of my favorite
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coaches that I've ever been around arenot very good media wise and did not
know how to communicate outside of thefootball world, if you know what I
mean. Yes, and there's certainguys that can really communicate outside of the
football world and they end up beinghead coaches, right or any kind of
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really really popular coach. Or there'sguys that can communicate outside of the football
world that were players that become broadcastersand stuff like that. But that could
very well be the case with theShawn. He's recruited very well. I
know that they're not paying him alot of money in lieu of paying chip
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Kelly a lot of money. Andhe left. And that's another thing too,
you know, chip Kelly, didn'tyou. I hate when people are
like, well, no one wantsto be a head coach anymore. Look
what happened with Chip Kelly. It'slike Chip Kelly didn't want to be the
head coach at U see LA anycorrect. He had a bad relationship with
the ad at UCLA. He didn'tfeel supported economically in recruiting and all these
other things at UCLA. That doesn'ttell everybody's story. That just tells Chip
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Kelly, Martin Jarmond story at UCLA. So that part of it all kind
of in the background when I watchwhat happened today. But man, I
feel bad. I wouldn't want tofly home after that. Well I felt
I felt that for him. Yeah, and it's interesting media day. Yeah,
well, I just I mean Iwatched the video. We played it
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on the air, obviously, andhe made the comment about how you know
we're from LA and then he stoppedas if he's just waiting for some kind
of laugh track to appear from themedia that never came and there was just
this long, uncomfortable pause. Soyeah, I mean, I would kind
of put a lot of that,to be honest with you, on UCLA's
pr people for not having the guyready. It's like he never wrote any
(06:05):
kind of script or had any idea, what the hell he was going to
talk about whatsoever, and that maybe, like you said, behind the scenes
and recruiting, he's different when he'swith the family and not in front of
five hundred people. But I,for one, felt bad for the guy
today. I liked him, youknow, I felt really bad for him.
And that was my vibe too,that he went up there without a
plan and it just bombed. Itjust bombed. At a media day,
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we'll, you know, with usone of the longest standing UCLA PR guys
just retired, Steve Rock So,yeah, yeah, you know who was
on the show with us yesterday withme and Hugh Breedlove Millan. By the
way, who Kaylen de boor Ohthat's cool. How's he doing. He's
good, he's good. His daughter'sstill back here playing softball in Seattle and
he came on the show. We'vebeen trying to get Kaylan with us for
(06:51):
a few months now. I gotit, and he wanted to kind of
separate himself from springball at UDUB kindof let that breathe a little bit.
And then there was this situation wherePennix showed up in Tuscaloosa like a month
and a half ago unannounced, andthey were putting pictures on social media with
him and recruits and a bunch ofSEC coaches were whining about a mind closed
doors. So Caylen said, let'slet that die down, and he popped
(07:14):
out the here with us yesterday,and people were like, there were Husky
fans that were mad. They werepissed that what are you giving that guy
a platform? Yeah, they wereupset, what are you giving that guy
a platform for? Blah blah blah. And I kind of felt like,
you know, there were some unansweredquestions that we wanted to kind of get
through. And I don't have anyreal animosity towards him for leaving for Alabama.
He's twenty five and three in twoyears, and he whipped Oregans ass
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three times, including the two biggestgames in that rivalry's history. Caylen debore
Era for me was a success.Was I bummed he left? Absolutely?
But I don't know. Maybe Ishould be more pissed off at him for
taking off Petros. Why should yoube mad at him? Everybody else's shouldn't
be Presno be mad that he leftFresno for Washington. I don't think so
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should the people in Indiana be madthat he left as their coordinator for Fresno.
Uh, I don't think so.Yeah, I mean, I'm not
mad, Adam, I told you, but you are and I understand.
Maybe I don't. And somebody wastalking to me about you at the PAC
twelve or whatever it was the Pacttwo reception and Mountain We're talking to me,
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Yeah, somebody was asking me aboutyou. Who was talking about me?
I forget who it was, butthey were talking about you know,
how big of a football a fanyou are, and how that usually and
how you and I are friends andusually I find those people insufferable, right,
well, you know this about Imean, you know, find me
insufferable. No, but this haslong been our dynamic, you know what
(08:46):
I mean, most people that arefans like you are insufferable. Okay.
But the truth is, I believeyou. You know what I mean,
I get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know just something
about you. I believe you.I don't know what that means. Take
it for whatever he did. Andthat's why I guess I'm not super annoyed.
(09:07):
I mean, sometimes on Twitter duringa game, I'm just like,
my god, you know, youget to tweet about every play. But
and I think that's basically what you'relooking at here, you're looking at I
mean, it's not like Kaylin deBoor grew up spearfishing in the sound.
You know you're in South Dakota,right. He's a football coach. It
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was there for two years or threeyears, and he was great, and
he brought the program to new heightsin the modern era, unseen since the
Dogfather. But he wasn't going tobe long for it, and the Alabama
job came open. And I don'treally know what you want from the guy.
I wish him all the success inthe world. I think it's wonderful
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that he came on and maintained therelationship and the same thing I said about
you, And I told you thiswhen he got the job, and you
can go back and check the tapes, those of you doubters and prisoners of
the moment. I told you whenhe got the job that Caylin de Boor
was a genuine great football coach anda person and somebody who was going to
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do good things there. And Icould not have envisioned what ended up happening
and that level of success. Buthow anybody could look down upon the guy
for and it's always messy when youleave, asked Jonathan Smith, and in
all on Petros, Petros, I'vegot guys, I've got fans, listeners
texting me, tweeting me that arecalling him a snake, yeah, and
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a fraud. Well it's just amyopic way of looking at things. But
these are the people that make upa fan base. These are the people
that wear dog noses and bark atyou when you run through the tunnel.
So it's a necessary evil in ourbusiness. I mean, you have to
have the tunnel vision fans or wecan't really have a sport, you know
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what I mean. Oh god,I'm thinking of all the old like Washington,
the Redskins fans that were the pignoses back in the day, hig
noses, the watermelon heads, thehomes, the cheeseheads. Yeah, I
mean that's what That's what makes upour sport. You know, you He's
all the big words you want,But at the bottom line is these are
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the people that are listening to theshows. And absolutely that you've seen the
averages, right, more perspective.They don't get to know these people as
people the way we do and right, and I get that, and I've
met Kaylan. You've met Kaylan andbehind the scenes, phenomenal guy, all
that stuff. And if you're goingto ever lose a coach, you know,
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Alabama or a place like Michigan orthe NFL is a place that you
would lose them to. And Ithink, you know, look, you
know, we asked him about notpenning a goodbye letter on Twitter, which
Jed Fish did, and he gotbarbecued by Arizona fans and some fans are
mad that Calin de Moore never said. Look, Jonathan Smith. They hate
him over there right now. Andhe's a hero of Beaver football. He'll
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go down in the annals as oneof the greatest Oregon State coaches and players
and representatives of the program of alltime. But it's life changing, generational
money for him and his family togo somewhere else. Now. The timing,
you know, that's cruel in collegefootball. Maybe if things were done
a little bit differently, he wouldended up as the Washington head coach and
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we'd be even more excited about Washingtonfootball, I think. But the fan
bases are myopic and that's how it'sgoing to be, and they take out
things in their lives on figures onthe football team or on the field,
and they don't think of the videogames and the fantasy football and the TV
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vibe of the whole thing really doestake away the humanity of the sport.
And that's okay because the sport isstupid in the first place. It's a
bunch of people in plastic outfits bunkinginto each other. Happy Media Day.
Yeah, we're not there. MaybeDeshaun Foster freezing up there was the most
honest thing that we're at. Hey, the guys uncomfortable in front of big
crowds. What do you want fromus? Uh? Petro's with us.
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Yeah, I've kind of bummed thatwe're not there. By the way,
at media Day, you know,going to La going to the old that's
gonna get day three. I wouldn'thave gone there for all three days.
We would have gone there just fortomorrow when when U dub is out there
with I think with Oregon and I'mnot sure the other four schools, but
they they split it up into threedays, and we would have had to
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have missed a show going out thereand then coming back. It's hard to
get there from the two oh sixman if I were Jedfish, I'd do
the Deshaun Foster speech word for wordinstead of saying, you know, we're
out there in the Northwest in Seattle, Oregon. You know we're in Seattle,
and then wait for a laugh.That would be hilarious. I'm with
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you. If he just went outthere and just said, we're right,
we're south of Vancouver, north ofPortland. You can get to Alaska from
us, take a boat. I'mjust excited. Any questions, Oh god,
how long do you think he'll beat Washington for? Honestly, the
fish, the fish, the fishthat save Motlake. Well, you know,
how long does a fish stay goodand you're refrigerated, frozen, frozen
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forever? I mean, you knowwhat I mean. I don't know,
you know, I don't know.Maybe they should put Jed one of those
cryo tanks with Ted Williams. Whenhe took over in Arizona and he had
Rob Grunkowski drop a like Empire strikesback right exactly when he had Grobkowski drop
the football out of the helicopter,remember that, and all the reach around
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guys like Bruce Feldman and stuff wereon Twitter like jud fishes turned it around
and I was like, what youknow, shut up? Yeah, I
remember that. And you know what, he did turn it around? I
mean he turned He went and recruited, He dug out those guys at a
survey. He finally, begrudgingly endedup starting the right guy, even though
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he didn't have the measurements in Fafida, and they had success that I did
not see coming. They played reallygood defense that complimented their offense, and
they ran the hell out of theball. And he did turn Arizona around.
Now, do I admit that Iwas wrong? Yes? Yeah?
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Does it bother me a little?Hey? No, Pete Carroll today,
what's that like? Huh ah,dude, it's weird. Man. Did
you wake up this morning and feelover on the other side of the bed
and realize his big chin wasn't there? To condescend to you, I was
patting the bed looking for Pete andhe wasn't there. I bet you he
loves pretty geeked. He's pretty firedup. He says, we have the
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best defensive mind on the planet rightnow. And Mike McDonald I remember seeing
him one time. He was theDC at Michigan when Jimmy Lake went out
there and we got destroyed by theWolverines. That was JJ McCarthy. They
threw the ball like nine times andwent for three hundred and eighty on the
ground or whatever it was, andjust beautiful ripped our ass up. And
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their defensive coordinator was Mike McDonald.Now he's the head coach of the Seahawks.
What do you think your buddy PeteCarroll's thinking today? For first time
and how many years he has notbeen at a training camp, whether Kyler
ger pro the bitterness is real,you think so? I think he's very
upset because he wanted to be Hewanted to coach, He didn't want to
not be there, and then hewanted ahead job somewhere else. He stuck
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his big chin into the San Diegosituation and wiggled it around. Excuse me,
the La Chargers. You gotta stopwith the chin, man. You're
killing me all right? Well whatever, killing me with a chin just an
incredibly smooth face for a man thatage. So you think he was only
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coming back for a head coaching gig. Yeah, he's Pete Carroll. You
met Pete Carroll advisor gig whatever.No, he was so excited about the
advisor gig with the Seahawks, hecried, and now is he there advising?
I don't see him. Remember theykicked him upstairs. And then he
said, I got fired. That'sright. And his statement was like,
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I'm so jacked. That's how That'show excited he is about an advisor role.
He cracked his horse. Oh god, why be about it. I'm
not mad at you. You gotto run his defensive mind in the history
of football. Accordingly we do,and we got Ryan Grubb. How about
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that. That's pretty good offensive mine. I know that. How do you
think he'll translate to the NFL?That'll be interesting. You know, people
ask the same thing about Chip Kelly, you know when they change the hash
marks. But I think you know, he gets people excited about offense and
excited about what you're doing. It'screative without being cute. And I think
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that's a good way to put it. Good way to put it. And
I think it makes sense to players. I think you could tell by the
way they run it that it makessense to players in the meetings, and
what you're trying to do with offenseis simplified for your players and make it
look complicated to the defense, rightand whatever reason or however he does it.
He does it. You know,you don't see a lot of illegal
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procedure and stuff like that with them, do you start? Right? And
they're doing a lot of stuff witha lot of window dressing, but with
some teeth behind it when they ranthe ball, for sure, especially when
they really needed to. So I'minterested in seeing how he works with the
hash marks. But I mean profootball is about matchups even more than college
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football is, so and that's grubsspecialty, right creating that, So I
think you'll have success. Sure?No, he he had to win a
lot of different styles of games whenhe was at Washington for sure, Oregon
State and the rain a s Ulower score, low scoring game, USC
high scoring game down there at thecoliseum. So good way to put it
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all, right, man, goodstuff, And that's why I did the
North Texas games. Brother, Comeon, you have your schedule yet now
you doing c W stuff? What'sso? What? No? I work
in Fox still. I thought youwere doing c W. No Oregon State
and Wazoo. No, No,you have your f S one schedule.
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Yeah, first game is what TexasTech Arizona No, No, Arizona State
Wyoming. Good game, that's awhopper. I like the game. I
saw the mayor and ask yourself whyyou're such a Oh God, I love
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you. I don't know if anybodyenjoys this idea. The hell with it,
man, God, I love you. Check it out. Check my
what your downloads? Okay, seehow many people stream it? Hey,
we had big numbers for Debor yesterday. Pale. Yeah, well your listeners
didn't want you to put it onbig that's right. Maybe we should do
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more stuff the listeners. Hey,all right, we gotta go. We'll
talk in a week. Man,I'll see. What I'd like you to
do is hit the paper with thedownload number on it, right, and
then stick your to it like askewer. You gotta get out of here,
man, all right, I havea breakdown. Everybody. Make sure
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you checked out Wyoming versus Arizona Stateon FS one, Petros, Papa Docas.
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