December 11, 2025 • 18 mins
Rick Neuheisel, former Huskies coach now with CBS Sports, joins Dave Softy Mahler and Dick Fain to talk about the Sherrone Moore situation, the Michigan job that is now open, the playoff field that left Notre Dame out, his coaching future, and UW’s LA Bowl.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Now with Rick new Heiseel. Here's Softy and Dick all right.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Back here at the five twenty Bar and Grill and
Bobby great spot to watch the game. The Night Talkings
Buccaneers come by watch the Dogs on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
In the La Bowl. I wonder if our next guest.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
By the way, Mick, thanks for Taco Time for sponsoring
this thing every single Thursday. Is calling us from his
brand new office at Martin Stadium and Pullman, Washington, or
if he's at the Army Navy game one or the other,
Rick new Heiseel with us.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I am wonderful, Tay, say hi to all the folks
at the five twenty Bar and Grill. That's a great
place to hang out. I am in Baltimore getting ready
for Army Navy. Yes, I love it. Or sixty three
fifty five and seven. Navy holds the advantage first game
played in eighteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Wow, well, I got a feeling it might be picking
that for your Taco Time pick of the week.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
So we'll see you in a few minutes. Here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We got to bounce back from that Buckeye loss a
week ago. Man, But let me ask you, Let me
ask you about the big news coming out.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Of ann Arbor. The floor is yours.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Why don't you address the Charon More firing and the
aftermath and everything we're hearing about now he's still in custody,
going to get a rain tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
What a mess, man, a absolute nightmare of epic proportions.
You talk about a fall and then sum This guy
got a unbelievable opportunity handed to him when he got
the Michigan job. As everybody knows, Michigan is the winningest
program in the history of college football. He got the
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chance to be the head coach when Jim Harbaugh was
suspended for three games actually maybe four games in that
National championship year, and Sharon was the head coach for
the last three of them and earned acclaim in so being.
And when Jim headed off to the NFL. The Michigan
job was his. He kind of corrected the ship. They
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weren't very good offensively last year, especially with the forward pass,
but he corrected the ship, finished with wins against Ohio
State and Alabama, and then obviously made some hires to
try to cure the quarterback situation in the in the
throw game, and got one of the celebrated high school
athletes in Brice Underwood, away from LSU. He's a hometown kid.
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They got him. They got him to stay right there
and in Michigan, and all seemed well until unfortunately they
lost to Ohio State. They'd had a four game winning
streak and then it came crashing down. And so the
question now is, obviously they've got evidence that he did
something inappropriate with the staffer. They've got evidence that this
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rises to the level of cause. The question is when
did they have evidence and how long did they wait
to make this move? Were they actually aware of this
and then they waited until after the Ohio State game,
after signing date, and in so doing, do they still
get to say this rises to the level of cause
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and they're in lies? I think the biggest issue he's
going to be arranged tomorrow. They haven't yet charged him.
I'm not sure exactly what the charges will be. There's
reports that he brandished a weapon. It's so convoluted and
messy and sad. I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Rick, Let's talk about the level of interest in that
job from the elite of the elite. Now, I'm talking
about current NFL coach's, current top twenty college head coaches.
What's the level of interest from those type of guys
and who do you think would be the best fit there?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, there's going to be a lot of guys that
are interested in it. It's the timing is bizarre, given
that now you've just signed a high school class, and
everybody at Michigan now is a transfer or at least
potential transfer. So how do you get there fast enough
to get that all done? Especially when you're not sure
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who the leadership is going to be at Michigan And
a number of these coaches have already been in this cycle,
having probably said no to Penn State. Kaitlin de Bore
comes to mind, right, His name immediately comes to as
a front runner for this job, and yet he just
said no to Penn State. Now happy he was at Alabama,
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and that becomes difficult to be talking out of both
sides of your mouth. So this is complicated. There are
a number of coaches that are going to be interested.
Jed Fish's name will be on the list because he
coached there. It's a natural. Jed's been successful. Jed has
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earned acclaim and deservedly so. And now it's about you know,
is this the job that he's interested in. He's got
a game this weekend. They got Boise State in a
couple of days down in Los Angeles. I think he
wants to get through that and then decide if there
is any potential offer where he'd be. But I know
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that he's excited about Washington. I know he's excited about
retaining the vast majority of this roster and going back
to battle again with the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah. Well, Rick new Isiah with us courtesy at Taco Time.
I guess Rick. Here's my question on Jed.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I don't have any doubt if he's offered the Michigan job,
he's going to take it.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Okay, that's number one.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I wonder how far down the list does Michigan
need to go? How many times, like, for example, how
many times did Penn Steak get told no before they
hired mac Amble, Probably three or four times before they
hired Matt Campbell, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He might be the best guy for the job. When
it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
How far down the list does Michigan need to go
before they offer the job the Jetfish.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I don't think it's going to be very far, Softie,
I don't think it's going to be very far because
I think they're going to realize a number of the
guys are probably unwilling and they're not going to be
able to wait as these guys mull it over. So
I think they're going to move to the next candidate,
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And I don't know how far they go before they
get a yes. That's the question, because this is a
mess right now.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
This is a mess, no question, different kind of mess
in South Bend, Indiana, a mess kind of created by
their athletic director.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
What did you make of his comments?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
What did you make of the whole situation over the
last week. We haven't talked to you since they got
left out.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Well, let's start with the committee. How do you do
something five times in a row and stand up in
front of the nation and say they're the better teams,
and then wait for a week when neither team plays
and then say, no, actually we were wrong. These guys
were the better team and now head to head matters,
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and then have the audacity to say it's because the
team that was right in the middle of them BYU lost,
that's why we actually got to this point. That's ridiculous.
So it unfortunately puts a lot of shade on a
committee that's doing this gratus. They're just there trying to
help and they're all probably really wonderful people, but at
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the end of the day, we're left to wonder what
the hell's going on here. And then for Pete the Bakua,
whose team probably has the easiest path of anybody to
the college football playoffs, and it was designed with their
former athletic director Jack Forbrook as one of the four
heads of the committee that puts this ball being deal together.
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The only thing they conceded was that they would not
be in the four buys, and that was when they
all had to be conference champions. We've already gotten rid
of that rule in year two that rules out, so
now they can have a buy and they also get
at a ten and two record get to go and
they get to make their own schedule. I mean, there's
nothing more age than the path for Notre Dame to
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make it to college football playoffs. So to whine at
the end of this, and I get why they were upset,
but to go and make it personal towards the ACC
who obviously has to stump for their teams. Everybody else
is stumping. I mean, it's what they do. And for
him to come after Jim Phillips in that regard was
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poor form. And then I thought it was poor form
for Jim Phillips to react. I just wished all that
and Brett and Brett yor Mark from the Big Twelve.
I wish all that were over the phone rather than
out in the public because now it just it's like,
we don't know what the hell we're doing, but it's
looked like that for some time.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, they're not the only team to decline an invite.
I mean, they had what ten wins. I guess the
best team to say we're not going to a bowl game,
I mean Iowa State, Kansas State, Florida State operator And.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Think about that, and think about that, softie, because Pete Savakua,
you was the former president of NBC Sports, So he
knows exactly what these games are worth. Yeah, if networks
that put him on, and with ESPN and ABC presenting
almost all of these bowl games, that's that's probably somewhere
between twenty and thirty million dollars hit to that company.
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He know exactly what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, we already have. I mean, let's face it. First
of all, this backtrack. The idea of not going to
a bowl game has been around for a long time.
I mean, Giby did it in two thousand and three,
if you remember right. He said, you know what, I'll
take that Corey Williams touchdown and the Apple Cup. I'll
go six and six and we'll call it a day.
And he said no. So TA coaches have been doing
that for a long time. But I do wonder what
this means for the future of bowl games. And I
(10:01):
think it was you who went on the Dan Patrick
Show and I thought, had a great idea. We're already
doing all these kickoff games anyway, the Chick fil A Classic,
things like that. Why not just make these bowl games
week zero of the college football season. Are you saying
that because you just came up with a great idea
or do you actually think that might be possible down
the road.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I think both. Well, I'm not going to pat myself
on the back and say it's a great idea. It's
an idea, yeah, and I think that, and I think
that it'd be a great way to start the college
football season. No one's going to opt out of them.
You're going to have really good teams playing. Some of
these places are more you know, warm weather climates and
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probably are more attractive in this time of year. But
that aside, I think this is the way of the future,
and I hope that we get there sooner than later,
because I think the college Football Playoff guys might go
right past sixteen and on to twenty four. And once
that happens, if you're not in. If you're not in,
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you're probably ready to pack it in.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Where are you then? On the Weekly College Football Playoff Show?
Some people think that we should not have a weekly
college football Playoff show and it should come out once.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I promise you everybody on the committee wishes it
was not on. They don't want this all aired out
and having when they change their mind to be made
out to be bandits. But that's a TV show. That's
all part of this, the whole purchase of the College
Football Playoff. That's an ESPN mandate that there'd be a
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show and they get those kind of ratings and be
able to sell the commercials for those shows. So that's
an ESPN thing that that's the deal that will have
to be broken between the CFP and the network.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, Rick, let me go back to the Michigan thing
for a second. Who do you think gets the gig?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Call it? Call it right now for us.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I mean, we won't hold you to it right and
obviously a lot can change. But if you had to
take one name off the board and put them on
the sideline at Michigan, who would that name.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Be in your mind?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Gosh, that's a great one.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I got to tell you that Jed came to mind
immediately because I know he enjoyed it there. Uh But again, Jed,
Jed worked for Harball, and I don't know that they
want anything to do with Harball, that whole mess with Connors,
Stallions and that not that Jed was involved in any
of that. But uh, I think they're gonna look outside
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the Harbaugh family. Maybe Jed isn't part of the search.
We'll wait and see, but the list is small there.
Their first guy they'll go for is obviously Kaitlin de Bor.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Right, you think he'll do it? Would you? Would you
do it? Would you leave? Mama? I heard today, guys, Rick, Rick,
I heard today.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Unless I'm wrong that his buyouts like five million, it's
not ill think of Alabama at all.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, No, I think that, especially if this doesn't go
well in Norman, if this doesn't go well in Norman
and that he gets cooked up because you know he
isn't Nick Saban. Who the hell is going to be
Nick Saban? I could see that happening, and happening quickly.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Well, Rick, we're in unanonymity on this show at least.
And Hugh was included that we'd love to see the
new Heidel show come to Pullman. There is no question
about that. I think it's a great idea. How about
the level of interest that Pullman has shown. Have you
had any conversations with Washington State University.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I had a brief conversation with some folks there, and
it was pleasant and fun to kind of talk about
what might be. But it hasn't risen to the level
of serious candidacy. I would tell you I think that
there's certainly the wheels are turning. I'm hoping that I
can and have another conversation because I think it would
(14:03):
be wonderful to coach with my son. And they had
that in the basketball side of things with Dick and
Tony Bennett. So hopefully they're looking back and saying that
worked out. Okay, maybe this could work out well for
the new heisls and so fingers crossed. But you know what,
We've got a great job. I get to do the
Army Navy game this weekend. I've got a pretty fortunate life,
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so no bad news regardless.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So would you be would you be looking at that,
honestly as a situation where you'd want to come in,
like Dick and Tony Bennett didn't coach for a year
or two whatever, and then eventually have Jerry take over.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, I don't know the year, but I would I
would certainly want that to be a possibility. I don't
know how you put that into the language, but I'm
interested because obviously I think it's a it's a cool job.
I don't have any real conflicts because we're no longer
in the same conferences Washington, we can root for each
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other other than the one Apple Cup Saturday. And then
I think the fact that the chance to coach with
my kid is a bucket list item.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, but think about all the golf you won't get
to play played plus Ridge, Well.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You know what my handicaps going the other way anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Rick thoughts at all on the last Husky game coming
up this Saturday, the first first Bowl game.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Do you know anything about Boise State.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well, Maddox Manson is back and he was seventeen to
thirty one, three touchdowns, two eighty nine in that game
that got him the championship of the Mountain West. That's
going to be a key that Ryan Walters and that
defense who played Yeoman football down the stretch, a really
really good job by Ryan. They're going to have to
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play and they can't look down their nose that this
is not a worthy opponent just because they're not a
power five school or power school. This is you better
be ready to play. This is exactly the DNA of
Boise State to take down a big name, right, So
if you're ready to go, then I think the Dogs
will be fine. But you cannot not have your a game.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, the elliot Bull's going away. This is the last one.
They're going to blow it up after this thing is over.
I mean that's kind of partly what happens when you
get fans six days to get ready for a game,
for God's sakes, and I find it to be idiotic
that this thing was announced on Sunday and they're playing
six days later on Saturday. So no surprise the thing
that the thing is getting blown up. And we got
a couple of options this weekend Rick for the TACOA
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Time Pick of the Week, and we're going to get
back to five hundred at seven and eight on the air.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It's been a hell of a rally to get to
that part.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You got the Army Navy game Saturday, the LA Bowl,
the Cricket Celebration Bowl, more ball games next week to
get to five hundred.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Courtesy of TACOA Time. Who do you like?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
In honor of my father, who was a captain in
the United State's Army, a member of the Jag Corps,
I will take Army as a tick point underdog wow,
and tell you that Jeff Monkin and the Black Knights
are gonna get this done. Give me go Army beat Navy.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Army plus the six sis straight up too. You love it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I love it Army plus the six have fun out there,
enjoy it and we will talk soon.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Man. Thank you coach.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
All right, boys, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Enjoy the weekend you bet Rick new Heisel with US
likes Army and the points against Navy, says he had
a brief conversation with Washington State. Says it was pleasant
and fun, but has not yet risen to the level
of serious candidacy for the Wazoo job. He does admit
that if he did talk to Wazoo and take the gig,
he would want his son Jerry eventually taking over, to
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be a part of the conversation. So that's the update
there on Rick new Heidel with the Washington State job.
We're gonna break Mike Holgrin, but I guarantee you has
no interest in the Wazoo job. We'll join us of
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As we continue from the five twenty bar and grill
on ninety three three kjrfl
Your home for college football Saturdays is live with CBS
Sports analyst Rick new Heiseel, powered by Taco Time. Hungry
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Now with Rick new Heiseel. Here's Softy and Dick all right.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Back here at the five twenty Bar and Grill and
Bobby great spot to watch the game. The Night Talkings
Buccaneers come by watch the Dogs on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
In the La Bowl. I wonder if our next guest.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
By the way, Mick, thanks for Taco Time for sponsoring
this thing every single Thursday. Is calling us from his
brand new office at Martin Stadium and Pullman, Washington, or
if he's at the Army Navy game one or the other,
Rick new Heiseel with us.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
I am wonderful, Tay, say hi to all the folks
at the five twenty Bar and Grill. That's a great
place to hang out. I am in Baltimore getting ready
for Army Navy. Yes, I love it. Or sixty three
fifty five and seven. Navy holds the advantage first game
played in eighteen ninety.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Wow, well, I got a feeling it might be picking
that for your Taco Time pick of the week.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
So we'll see you in a few minutes. Here.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
We got to bounce back from that Buckeye loss a
week ago. Man, But let me ask you, Let me
ask you about the big news coming out.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Of ann Arbor. The floor is yours.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Why don't you address the Charon More firing and the
aftermath and everything we're hearing about now he's still in custody,
going to get a rain tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
What a mess, man, a absolute nightmare of epic proportions.
You talk about a fall and then sum This guy
got a unbelievable opportunity handed to him when he got
the Michigan job. As everybody knows, Michigan is the winningest
program in the history of college football. He got the
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chance to be the head coach when Jim Harbaugh was
suspended for three games actually maybe four games in that
National championship year, and Sharon was the head coach for
the last three of them and earned acclaim in so being.
And when Jim headed off to the NFL. The Michigan
job was his. He kind of corrected the ship. They
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weren't very good offensively last year, especially with the forward pass,
but he corrected the ship, finished with wins against Ohio
State and Alabama, and then obviously made some hires to
try to cure the quarterback situation in the in the
throw game, and got one of the celebrated high school
athletes in Brice Underwood, away from LSU. He's a hometown kid.
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They got him. They got him to stay right there
and in Michigan, and all seemed well until unfortunately they
lost to Ohio State. They'd had a four game winning
streak and then it came crashing down. And so the
question now is, obviously they've got evidence that he did
something inappropriate with the staffer. They've got evidence that this
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rises to the level of cause. The question is when
did they have evidence and how long did they wait
to make this move? Were they actually aware of this
and then they waited until after the Ohio State game,
after signing date, and in so doing, do they still
get to say this rises to the level of cause
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and they're in lies? I think the biggest issue he's
going to be arranged tomorrow. They haven't yet charged him.
I'm not sure exactly what the charges will be. There's
reports that he brandished a weapon. It's so convoluted and
messy and sad. I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
Rick, Let's talk about the level of interest in that
job from the elite of the elite. Now, I'm talking
about current NFL coach's, current top twenty college head coaches.
What's the level of interest from those type of guys
and who do you think would be the best fit there?
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Well, there's going to be a lot of guys that
are interested in it. It's the timing is bizarre, given
that now you've just signed a high school class, and
everybody at Michigan now is a transfer or at least
potential transfer. So how do you get there fast enough
to get that all done? Especially when you're not sure
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who the leadership is going to be at Michigan And
a number of these coaches have already been in this cycle,
having probably said no to Penn State. Kaitlin de Bore
comes to mind, right, His name immediately comes to as
a front runner for this job, and yet he just
said no to Penn State. Now happy he was at Alabama,
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and that becomes difficult to be talking out of both
sides of your mouth. So this is complicated. There are
a number of coaches that are going to be interested.
Jed Fish's name will be on the list because he
coached there. It's a natural. Jed's been successful. Jed has
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earned acclaim and deservedly so. And now it's about you know,
is this the job that he's interested in. He's got
a game this weekend. They got Boise State in a
couple of days down in Los Angeles. I think he
wants to get through that and then decide if there
is any potential offer where he'd be. But I know
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that he's excited about Washington. I know he's excited about
retaining the vast majority of this roster and going back
to battle again with the Huskies.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Yeah. Well, Rick new Isiah with us courtesy at Taco Time.
I guess Rick. Here's my question on Jed.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
I don't have any doubt if he's offered the Michigan job,
he's going to take it.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Okay, that's number one.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
But I wonder how far down the list does Michigan
need to go? How many times, like, for example, how
many times did Penn Steak get told no before they
hired mac Amble, Probably three or four times before they
hired Matt Campbell, which is fine.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
He might be the best guy for the job. When
it's all said and done.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
How far down the list does Michigan need to go
before they offer the job the Jetfish.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
I don't think it's going to be very far, Softie,
I don't think it's going to be very far because
I think they're going to realize a number of the
guys are probably unwilling and they're not going to be
able to wait as these guys mull it over. So
I think they're going to move to the next candidate,
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And I don't know how far they go before they
get a yes. That's the question, because this is a
mess right now.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
This is a mess, no question, different kind of mess
in South Bend, Indiana, a mess kind of created by
their athletic director.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
What did you make of his comments?
Speaker 5 (06:51):
What did you make of the whole situation over the
last week. We haven't talked to you since they got
left out.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
Well, let's start with the committee. How do you do
something five times in a row and stand up in
front of the nation and say they're the better teams,
and then wait for a week when neither team plays
and then say, no, actually we were wrong. These guys
were the better team and now head to head matters,
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and then have the audacity to say it's because the
team that was right in the middle of them BYU lost,
that's why we actually got to this point. That's ridiculous.
So it unfortunately puts a lot of shade on a
committee that's doing this gratus. They're just there trying to
help and they're all probably really wonderful people, but at
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the end of the day, we're left to wonder what
the hell's going on here. And then for Pete the Bakua,
whose team probably has the easiest path of anybody to
the college football playoffs, and it was designed with their
former athletic director Jack Forbrook as one of the four
heads of the committee that puts this ball being deal together.
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The only thing they conceded was that they would not
be in the four buys, and that was when they
all had to be conference champions. We've already gotten rid
of that rule in year two that rules out, so
now they can have a buy and they also get
at a ten and two record get to go and
they get to make their own schedule. I mean, there's
nothing more age than the path for Notre Dame to
(08:25):
make it to college football playoffs. So to whine at
the end of this, and I get why they were upset,
but to go and make it personal towards the ACC
who obviously has to stump for their teams. Everybody else
is stumping. I mean, it's what they do. And for
him to come after Jim Phillips in that regard was
(08:46):
poor form. And then I thought it was poor form
for Jim Phillips to react. I just wished all that
and Brett and Brett yor Mark from the Big Twelve.
I wish all that were over the phone rather than
out in the public because now it just it's like,
we don't know what the hell we're doing, but it's
looked like that for some time.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Well, they're not the only team to decline an invite.
I mean, they had what ten wins. I guess the
best team to say we're not going to a bowl game,
I mean Iowa State, Kansas State, Florida State operator And.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
Think about that, and think about that, softie, because Pete Savakua,
you was the former president of NBC Sports, So he
knows exactly what these games are worth. Yeah, if networks
that put him on, and with ESPN and ABC presenting
almost all of these bowl games, that's that's probably somewhere
between twenty and thirty million dollars hit to that company.
(09:37):
He know exactly what he was doing.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, we already have. I mean, let's face it. First
of all, this backtrack. The idea of not going to
a bowl game has been around for a long time.
I mean, Giby did it in two thousand and three,
if you remember right. He said, you know what, I'll
take that Corey Williams touchdown and the Apple Cup. I'll
go six and six and we'll call it a day.
And he said no. So TA coaches have been doing
that for a long time. But I do wonder what
this means for the future of bowl games. And I
(10:01):
think it was you who went on the Dan Patrick
Show and I thought, had a great idea. We're already
doing all these kickoff games anyway, the Chick fil A Classic,
things like that. Why not just make these bowl games
week zero of the college football season. Are you saying
that because you just came up with a great idea
or do you actually think that might be possible down
the road.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
I think both. Well, I'm not going to pat myself
on the back and say it's a great idea. It's
an idea, yeah, and I think that, and I think
that it'd be a great way to start the college
football season. No one's going to opt out of them.
You're going to have really good teams playing. Some of
these places are more you know, warm weather climates and
(10:44):
probably are more attractive in this time of year. But
that aside, I think this is the way of the future,
and I hope that we get there sooner than later,
because I think the college Football Playoff guys might go
right past sixteen and on to twenty four. And once
that happens, if you're not in. If you're not in,
(11:06):
you're probably ready to pack it in.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
Where are you then? On the Weekly College Football Playoff Show?
Some people think that we should not have a weekly
college football Playoff show and it should come out once.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Well, I promise you everybody on the committee wishes it
was not on. They don't want this all aired out
and having when they change their mind to be made
out to be bandits. But that's a TV show. That's
all part of this, the whole purchase of the College
Football Playoff. That's an ESPN mandate that there'd be a
(11:40):
show and they get those kind of ratings and be
able to sell the commercials for those shows. So that's
an ESPN thing that that's the deal that will have
to be broken between the CFP and the network.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, Rick, let me go back to the Michigan thing
for a second. Who do you think gets the gig?
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Call it? Call it right now for us.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
I mean, we won't hold you to it right and
obviously a lot can change. But if you had to
take one name off the board and put them on
the sideline at Michigan, who would that name.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Be in your mind?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Gosh, that's a great one.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I got to tell you that Jed came to mind
immediately because I know he enjoyed it there. Uh But again, Jed,
Jed worked for Harball, and I don't know that they
want anything to do with Harball, that whole mess with Connors,
Stallions and that not that Jed was involved in any
of that. But uh, I think they're gonna look outside
(12:37):
the Harbaugh family. Maybe Jed isn't part of the search.
We'll wait and see, but the list is small there.
Their first guy they'll go for is obviously Kaitlin de Bor.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Right, you think he'll do it? Would you? Would you
do it? Would you leave? Mama? I heard today, guys, Rick, Rick,
I heard today.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Unless I'm wrong that his buyouts like five million, it's
not ill think of Alabama at all.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, No, I think that, especially if this doesn't go
well in Norman, if this doesn't go well in Norman
and that he gets cooked up because you know he
isn't Nick Saban. Who the hell is going to be
Nick Saban? I could see that happening, and happening quickly.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
Well, Rick, we're in unanonymity on this show at least.
And Hugh was included that we'd love to see the
new Heidel show come to Pullman. There is no question
about that. I think it's a great idea. How about
the level of interest that Pullman has shown. Have you
had any conversations with Washington State University.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
I had a brief conversation with some folks there, and
it was pleasant and fun to kind of talk about
what might be. But it hasn't risen to the level
of serious candidacy. I would tell you I think that
there's certainly the wheels are turning. I'm hoping that I
can and have another conversation because I think it would
(14:03):
be wonderful to coach with my son. And they had
that in the basketball side of things with Dick and
Tony Bennett. So hopefully they're looking back and saying that
worked out. Okay, maybe this could work out well for
the new heisls and so fingers crossed. But you know what,
We've got a great job. I get to do the
Army Navy game this weekend. I've got a pretty fortunate life,
(14:26):
so no bad news regardless.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
So would you be would you be looking at that,
honestly as a situation where you'd want to come in,
like Dick and Tony Bennett didn't coach for a year
or two whatever, and then eventually have Jerry take over.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Well, I don't know the year, but I would I
would certainly want that to be a possibility. I don't
know how you put that into the language, but I'm
interested because obviously I think it's a it's a cool job.
I don't have any real conflicts because we're no longer
in the same conferences Washington, we can root for each
(15:00):
other other than the one Apple Cup Saturday. And then
I think the fact that the chance to coach with
my kid is a bucket list item.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, but think about all the golf you won't get
to play played plus Ridge, Well.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
You know what my handicaps going the other way anyway.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
Rick thoughts at all on the last Husky game coming
up this Saturday, the first first Bowl game.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Do you know anything about Boise State.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Well, Maddox Manson is back and he was seventeen to
thirty one, three touchdowns, two eighty nine in that game
that got him the championship of the Mountain West. That's
going to be a key that Ryan Walters and that
defense who played Yeoman football down the stretch, a really
really good job by Ryan. They're going to have to
(15:52):
play and they can't look down their nose that this
is not a worthy opponent just because they're not a
power five school or power school. This is you better
be ready to play. This is exactly the DNA of
Boise State to take down a big name, right, So
if you're ready to go, then I think the Dogs
will be fine. But you cannot not have your a game.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Well, the elliot Bull's going away. This is the last one.
They're going to blow it up after this thing is over.
I mean that's kind of partly what happens when you
get fans six days to get ready for a game,
for God's sakes, and I find it to be idiotic
that this thing was announced on Sunday and they're playing
six days later on Saturday. So no surprise the thing
that the thing is getting blown up. And we got
a couple of options this weekend Rick for the TACOA
(16:37):
Time Pick of the Week, and we're going to get
back to five hundred at seven and eight on the air.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
It's been a hell of a rally to get to
that part.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
You got the Army Navy game Saturday, the LA Bowl,
the Cricket Celebration Bowl, more ball games next week to
get to five hundred.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Courtesy of TACOA Time. Who do you like?
Speaker 4 (16:56):
In honor of my father, who was a captain in
the United State's Army, a member of the Jag Corps,
I will take Army as a tick point underdog wow,
and tell you that Jeff Monkin and the Black Knights
are gonna get this done. Give me go Army beat Navy.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Army plus the six sis straight up too. You love it.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
I love it Army plus the six have fun out there,
enjoy it and we will talk soon.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Man. Thank you coach.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
All right, boys, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
Enjoy the weekend you bet Rick new Heisel with US
likes Army and the points against Navy, says he had
a brief conversation with Washington State. Says it was pleasant
and fun, but has not yet risen to the level
of serious candidacy for the Wazoo job. He does admit
that if he did talk to Wazoo and take the gig,
he would want his son Jerry eventually taking over, to
(17:49):
be a part of the conversation. So that's the update
there on Rick new Heidel with the Washington State job.
We're gonna break Mike Holgrin, but I guarantee you has
no interest in the Wazoo job. We'll join us of
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