May 28, 2025 • 19 mins
Ty Dane Gonzalez from Locked on Mariners and Emerald City Spectrum joins to talk about the Houston series, Polanco's possible injury, the rotation, and much more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, moving into the four o'clock hour.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now it's time to continue talking to some Seattle Mariners
as they begin this series tonight against the Washington Nationals.
Joining us right here on KJR.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
First Chance.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I've had to talk with this gentleman, Ty Dane Gonzalez.
He hosts the Lockdown Mariners podcast. He also writes for
Emerald City Spectrum. Ty, good to meet you over the phone. Man,
how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Nice media too, Jackson. Really appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, we appreciate you giving us some time.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, listen, man, we Anders and I spoke in that
first hour pretty extensively about Sunday's game specifically and the
decisions by Dan Wilson. And there's a lot I think
to really disagree with. I'll just get your two cents
to start off on bringing in Casey there in the
ninth inning, after he pitches two innings on Saturday, Wilson
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and his staff elect to pitch him again in the
ninth he gives up the walk off, and I guess
I don't know what the bullpen situation was, but I
would just really question, you know, the specific decision there.
And there's a few decisions to talk about, but specifically
the decision to.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Bring Legomina in there in the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, this is something we talk about on our show
a lot. Dan Wilson's decision making blows my mind. I
just I don't really get it sometimes, I really don't.
I am of the belief here, especially in that situation.
I know there's going to be a lot of people
who disagree with me. I don't care, first and foremost,
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but I'm of the belief that Audrius Munos should be
pitching in that situation, right, that you shouldn't be saving
Munos for a saved situation that may or may not exist.
And oh look, it didn't exist at the end of
the day. Now again, you know, we don't know what
the bullpen situations are. We don't know who's availables is not,
who might be dealing with, you know, maybe a back
(01:54):
thaying or what have you on a certain day. It
does seem like the Bears were trying to avoid using
Munios on Sunday by any means necessary, unless they absolutely felt.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like they had to.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I think you can make a great argument that they
absolutely had to in that situation. They disagreed, and you
know what happened happened, right, So yeah, I just I'm
not a huge fan of the end game decisions that
Dan Wilson has made. I think there's a lot of
things you know that happens behind the scenes that you
know none of us are really privy to. That makes
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Dan Wilson a good manager. I think that they, you know,
the players have really bought into his messaging. But in
terms of the things that you know, we can see
that the fans can see. Not a huge fan of them.
I think, you know, there's a little little too much
traditionalism there with how he manages his ball club.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, much different than Scott service Ty. Thanks so much,
Anderson Hurst here with you.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
One other one earlier in the game that we kind
of talked about was leaving cast you in for that
sixth inning gets to us career I think career high
of one hundred and fourteen pitches almost gets his career
high of one hundred and fifteen. He gives up the
game time double a cam Smith. It's kind of it's
maybe we do again. We don't know the full context
of who was available, who wasn't, But what is your
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thoughts on leaving Castillo in there after he had some
hard contact leading up to that point.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I didn't like that either. I mean, you have
the off day on Monday, so you should pretty much
have everyone available to you. Castillo had been laboring, you know,
it's not like he had been dominating throughout that game.
He had kind of settled in there. And obviously he's
a VET. You know, he is the vet in your rotation.
He's a guy that you know you want to go
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to war with at any point, and you know you
had pitching some huge, huge moments for you. But in
that situation, I just I didn't think that made really
any sense whatsoever. That's just a lot to ask of
a guy here, and who, again, is battling. He's not cruising,
he's battling to go that deep in a sorry and
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especially you know, look, I'm not saying that you're running
the risk of injury here or anything like that, but
it is a lot to put on a guy's arm,
especially when you have dealt with a lot of injuries
the right course of the year. I just from any
way that you look at it, I just I really
did not like that decision.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Ty. I want to kind of follow up on that,
and ty Dane Gonzalez is our guest. He's the host
of the Locked On Mariners podcast, also writes for Emerald
City Spectrum, which also Anders writes for as well covers
the Sounders there. Tye, So following up on that, it's
an interesting dichotomy where you look at, you know, the
way that Dan Wilson treats his starting staff specifically like
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guys like Wu and guys like Miller, more younger guys
in making sure they don't throw too much, you know,
kind of babing them a little bit for lack of
a better word, and then he'll go out and let
Castillo throw one hundred and fourteen pitches and you more
of an older pitcher.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's this interesting dynamic that kind of frustrates me of
kind of like pick a lane, you know, are you
going to think about pictures, you know, and potential for
injury and wanting to extend their arms for thinking about
September and potentially October, or are you going to you know,
let them rock like the Rock did on Sunday and
go one hundred and fourteen And it kind of confuses
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me which road he's going to go down when we
see this on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, so this is kind of where we get into
the territory of like what do we know and what
we don't know? Yeah, you know, what we don't know
and what's going on behind the scenes that maybe we're
not privy to it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Again, maybe there were beyond Munnos, a couple of guys
that they just really didn't want to use on Sunday.
And that's why he pushed Castillo because even with Luis,
he haven't really done this with him this year. He's
been you know, if you're exiting your your final inning
of the day, you know, around or what you would
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think would be their final inning of the day at
around you know, ninety four ninety six pitches, which is
around where Cassillo was at the end of what should
have been his last inning on Sunday they usually call it.
So that's it made that incredibly weird. At the very least,
I thought, Okay, maybe they're bringing him in before he
gets to one hundred pitch mark to get another out
or two, you know, just kind of squeeze as much
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and joic as you can out of them. But yeah,
the fact that he just kind of continue to let
him go out there, and even when the Astros, you know,
generated some traffic there, and even after the game Tine
hit like he continued to let him out there. I
just I don't know what that was about. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, well, let's move to the offensive side of the ball.
And something I've been concerned about and I'm really curious
to what you think about this time, but Jorge Polonko
has not been the same player in the month of May.
I wonder if there's some injury stuff going on there.
He obviously still can't bat right handed, so against left
handed pitching, do we maybe see an iel stink coming,
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because even when he is batting left handed, he just
does not look like the same player right now.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, they've been really mum on that situation. I just
read about this on the Amerald City Spectrum actually just
about fifteen or so minutes ago. I think part of
it is, yeah, like he's clearly reaggravated something, or the
Mariners have just deemed, for reasons unknown, that he can't
play in the field and he can't hit from the
right side of the plate, or that he shouldn't you know,
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however you want to look at that, But you know,
I look at the numbers here, and the league has
clearly made an adjustment to him, and he just hasn't
been able to adjust back yet. He saw one hundred
and thirty eight fastballs in March and April, and he
slashed three seventy five four nine five against him. He
also saw one hundred and forty nine off speed and
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breaking pitches in March and April. Was actually pretty good
against him, not as good as he was against the fastball,
but still pretty good against him. Four six, three ninety four,
six eighty eight he did with twenty nine point seven
percent of the time on those pitches though. But now
we're seeing more off speed and breaking pitches. He's seen
one hundred and thirty six non fastballs and about of
May and he's slashing one oh seven two nineteen one
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o seven with a thirty three point nine percent with rate,
and he's only seen eighty seven fastballs, and even against those,
he's flashing two hundred and two fifty three sixty seven.
So to me, it just kind of seems like he's
all kinds of out of sorts right now. So I
would think that, yeah, there's probably something physical going on there,
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because We were obviously expecting regression from him. This was
obviously going to happen because he was hitting well above
even the most optimistic expectations. But he's gone instead of
just normalizing, he's kind of gone from one extreme end
of the spectrum to the other. So I think, yeah,
some of it is just natural regression that you know,
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the league has made an adjustment to him and now
he just has to adjust back. But also because of
howse of beer the regression has been, there has to
be something physical going on. I just I can't really
think of any anything else other than that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, you know, the injury situation for the Mariners is
what is specifically on the pitching staff and you already
have you know, Rodblaze out and Raley's coming back hopefully soon.
But you know, to lose him, you know, whatever the
numbers have been, you know, and you kind of had
those good stats right there, you definitely can't, I think,
afford to lose the potential of that kind of bad
(09:13):
Ty diggins All is our guest from the Locked On
Mariners Show, and tyber I wanted to ask you about
the Nationals coming up this series starting tonight over at
Teamobile Park, before we get there quickly. Going back to
that pitching staff, this is something that Andrews and I
were talking about the last hour where it looks like
you're going to hopefully have you know, some arms back soon,
and you obviously get Kirby back and you know, we'll
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see how he continues to develop after what happened last week.
But getting these pictures back healthy, looking at Logan Evans
and how he's done, you know, the two and one, three, three, three,
era and five starts so far, looking at how Emerson
Hancock's done, He's going Thursday, I'm wondering getting these pictures
back healthy, getting Logan Gilbert back. You know, do you
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have the thought to roll out a six man rotation?
This kind of goes to the earlier question of you know,
extending arms, right, Do you go to a six man
rotation for a little bit while you're getting so much
success out of you know, Hancock and out of Evans,
or do you get back down to five and then
send them back to Tacoma?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I personally would But Daniel Kramer, great writer over at
MLC dot competent an article today talking to Trent Blank,
the director of pitching strategy for the mayors and Jerry
Depoto as well about the possibility of running a six
man rotation, and they said, yeah, it's on the table,
but it's not something that we're planning on right now,
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which I find interest in considering that. You know, after
Bryce Miller threw his live VP on Thursday, said that
he's kind of on a six day routine, and we
know that George Curry has been on a six day
routine since he started his rehab assignment. Like you would
think that that means six man rotation, right, But you know,
Trent Blank in that article said that, you know, some
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of the guys in the rotation, they don't like having
the extra day off, so that's something that you have
to account for. But it's going to be really interesting
to see kind of how they maneuver this because they
have another off day in the middle of this homestand
they get an off day after the twin series wraps
up on Sunday before they face the Orioles for three
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more and then they hit the road after that. But
so Kirby will only pitch once during that stretch, so
he'll get his five full days off in between starts.
But when you get to the Oriole Series and then
the road series against the Angels of the Diamondbacks. You're
gonna be playing nine games and nine days, So in theory,
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Kirby is going to have to start twice in the
span of six days. So that doesn't really align with
the timeline that they put him on. Maybe that's when
they bring Millard back into the rotation. Maybe they allow
Logan Evans to start one more time during that stretch
and then they just have Miller slotted in before Kirby
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is supposed to start in that push, just curried back
another day. I don't know, but yeah, to me, the
six man rotation makes a lot of sense, especially with
how few off days they have coming up. You know,
at the end of the at the end of June
and into the started to Live, they're going to play
seventeen games in seventeen days. Oh wow. So to me,
it just it would make a lot of sense with
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you know, Miller saying that this is something that he's
just going to have to manage. So we don't know
what that's going to look like. We don't know, you know,
how long it's going to take for George Korey to
be kind of in the full swing of things. We
don't know what Logan Gilbert's going to look like when
he gets back all these things. It just feels like,
with what you've gotten out of Logan Evans and Emerson
Hancock to your point, that just makes a lot of
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sense to roll with a six man rotation at least
until the All Star break.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yep, Ti Dang, It's all on with us, host of
the Lockdown Mariners podcast and writer for Emerald City Spectrum
for your Seattle Mariners. So opposite of Polonco, we kind
of got Julio who started off pretty cold in the
month of April but has really come into his own
a little bit in the month of May with the
seven eighty six ops. How have you evaluated his growth
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as a player and is this one of those things
where he's going to hopefully grow out of these slow
starts in his first five years in his career or
four years in his career? Excuse me so, but like,
how do you evaluate where he's at offensively? We all
know about what he does with the glob but how
do you evaluate where he's at offensively at this point
the season in his career.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right now, as far as the month of Mago's. I'm
actually seeing some really positive signs from him. I mean,
he's not striking out much. He's also not walking much,
which means that he's being aggressive early on accounts. He's
and he's making a lot of contact. But you know,
you look at the bat of ball data, like he's
hitting a fair amount of line drives, he's in a
fair amount of fly balls, Like he's not hitting the
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ball on the ground a ton. You know, he's two
seventy six three fifteen, four seventy one in the month
of May. Like I'm seeing some good stuff there. You know,
he's hitting for power, just generally hitting the ball hard,
create quality contact more often than that. The one thing
I would like to see from him more is I
would like to see him run a bit more. Now.
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I wonder if he has been dealing with something. He
did get scratched from the lineup on Thursday with a
back thing, and it does seem like when he's run
down the first base line a few times he looks
a little stiff, So I do wonder if he's been
dealing with something. But he only has one stolen base
in the month of May, and this is kind of
a team wide issue too. This is something that I
would just like to see from the team a bit
more in general, and I think has kind of led
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to some of the offensive issues that they've had this month.
They're just not running at all as a club. They
were running a ton in the month of April and
they've just completely gone away from that. I mean, Julio
has the same amount of stolen bases as Mitch Garver
does this month. That's probably so. Yeah, So I would
like to see Julio run more. But overall, like in
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terms of what he's doing with the bat right now,
I'm seeing some really positive signs and I think we're
getting close. I think we're getting close to seeing the
the Julio that we all kind of want to see.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It feels like Julio is sort of heated up in
the months of June July over the last couple of years,
and if he's making that transition in May, then I
think we're written for a really good summer. If he's
heating up even earlier this year than in past, so
I think there's certainly reason to be very optimistic. I mean,
good day Sunday, and we'll continue to see I think
a good Julio, as the temperatures continue to warm up
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as they really started to today and we're going to
see continuing here this week here in Seattle in this
homestand ty. But before we wrap up, one of your
thoughts on the Nationals. I don't know too much about
them here, other than the fact that this is a
team with a twenty four to twenty nine record, fourth
place in the National League East saw them losing a
series to San Francisco over the weekend. What should our
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Mariner fan expectations be for this three game series against
the Nationals this week.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I'll tell you this, the Nationals are incredibly left handed heavy.
I've never seen anything like this. It is possible that
you might see a lineup with nine left handed hitters
tonight from the Nationals.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Their best hitters are left handed.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They have a couple of switcheaders that are obviously going
to hit left handed. You know, it gets the right
he gets, you know, right handed. Heavy Mayor's pitching staff,
So that's going to be a fascinating matchup for them. Really,
the two guys you have to worry about here c
j Abrams and James Wood. Those guys are incredible, and
the rest of the lineup not Green. Nathaniel Low who's
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obviously been a guy that's been rumored a lot for
the Mariners in trade talks of the offseason. He's kind
of he's repressed pretty significantly. He's about nine percent below
league adage right now as a hitter, Kyvirit Ruiz, Luis Starcia,
Josh Bell. Those are guys that, like they can obviously
do damage against you. You know, you can't just kind
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of write them off. But they've all been well below
league average so far this year. So if you handle
Abrams and Wood, you should be able to uh manage
your way around the rest of the salina. What's going
to be interesting here, though, is the pitching matchups on
the on the national side of things, You're going to
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see a couple lefties in the series, like you saw
a couple of lefties in the Astro series. So get
ready to see Donovan Solano, Mitch Garber, guys like that.
Probably not a whole lot of for a Pelonco except
for tomorrow against Trevor Williams. And Tremor Williams is the
guy that throws a lot of change ups and the
Marrors not particularly good at hitting changeups, so I don't
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think this is a great matchup for for the Mayor's
offense on paper, especially with the struggles that we've seen
from them so far. This might be a low scoring
series because of you know, again, the Nationals line up
beyond Abrams of Wood should be handled pretty pretty well
by this marriage pitching staff, at least on paper. So yeah,
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it's gonna be gonna be a fascinating matchup for the
Mayors as a whole. That that that matchup on Thursday.
Kensey Gore, he's the guy that's missed a lot of bats.
Amara's strikeout rate has gone up in the month of May,
so we'll see how that goes. But also, the Maras
have handled you know, the best pitchers in the game
really well, you know, Terri Schooglar Crochet, Michael King, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
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So maybe that's the one that they get up for.
Who knows, So we'll see, But it's definitely a winnable
series for the Marrors.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I would say that you talk about their bats and
it just sounds like a potential get right start for
George Kirby you know, after what he's returned last week,
and I would love to see George Kirby go out
there and look like the George Kirby old. This coming well,
that's tomorrow. He pitches on Wednesday. Feels like a Monday.
I was about to say, you know, coming up in
a couple of days, but that's feeling a Monday after
Memorial Day. Ty, I'm gonna make sure this isn't the
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last time we talked to you here on the three
to seven show. Man, this was awesome. Thanks for all
the great information. We'll make sure to read your stuff,
Emerald City Spectrum, your podcast Locked on Mariners.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Appreciate the time, Man.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I appreciate it, zactly.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Take care, Ty, Dane Gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Great stuff here as we look ahead for the Marriners
starting the series against the Nationals. Reading between the lines,
and it sounds like if we get the good pitching performances,
then I think expectation is win two out of three,
no doubt about it. Well, you know, Anders, it's funny
because you know maryor fans, we often sometimes clown on
the team for you know, taking priority of bobblehead nights
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and you know where the wins. You're caring about the
bobblehead nights and whatever's going out at the stadium. I
am not part of necessarily that crew overwhelmingly, but there
was something that else that happened in the sports the
world that reminded.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Me of it over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
A quite embarrassing social media post by a soccer franchise
that is going to make Mariner fans say, thank goodness,
that isn't us. We'll get to that next Textimonials four
forty five, John Wilmer five o'clock, Dan Wilson five thirty,
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All right, moving into the four o'clock hour.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Now it's time to continue talking to some Seattle Mariners
as they begin this series tonight against the Washington Nationals.
Joining us right here on KJR.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
First Chance.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I've had to talk with this gentleman, Ty Dane Gonzalez.
He hosts the Lockdown Mariners podcast. He also writes for
Emerald City Spectrum. Ty, good to meet you over the phone. Man,
how's it going?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Nice media too, Jackson. Really appreciate you guys having me on.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Yeah, we appreciate you giving us some time.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, listen, man, we Anders and I spoke in that
first hour pretty extensively about Sunday's game specifically and the
decisions by Dan Wilson. And there's a lot I think
to really disagree with. I'll just get your two cents
to start off on bringing in Casey there in the
ninth inning, after he pitches two innings on Saturday, Wilson
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and his staff elect to pitch him again in the
ninth he gives up the walk off, and I guess
I don't know what the bullpen situation was, but I
would just really question, you know, the specific decision there.
And there's a few decisions to talk about, but specifically
the decision to.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
Bring Legomina in there in the ninth inning.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, this is something we talk about on our show
a lot. Dan Wilson's decision making blows my mind. I
just I don't really get it sometimes, I really don't.
I am of the belief here, especially in that situation.
I know there's going to be a lot of people
who disagree with me. I don't care, first and foremost,
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but I'm of the belief that Audrius Munos should be
pitching in that situation, right, that you shouldn't be saving
Munos for a saved situation that may or may not exist.
And oh look, it didn't exist at the end of
the day. Now again, you know, we don't know what
the bullpen situations are. We don't know who's availables is not,
who might be dealing with, you know, maybe a back
(01:54):
thaying or what have you on a certain day. It
does seem like the Bears were trying to avoid using
Munios on Sunday by any means necessary, unless they absolutely felt.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Like they had to.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I think you can make a great argument that they
absolutely had to in that situation. They disagreed, and you
know what happened happened, right, So yeah, I just I'm
not a huge fan of the end game decisions that
Dan Wilson has made. I think there's a lot of
things you know that happens behind the scenes that you
know none of us are really privy to. That makes
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Dan Wilson a good manager. I think that they, you know,
the players have really bought into his messaging. But in
terms of the things that you know, we can see
that the fans can see. Not a huge fan of them.
I think, you know, there's a little little too much
traditionalism there with how he manages his ball club.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, much different than Scott service Ty. Thanks so much,
Anderson Hurst here with you.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
So yeah.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
One other one earlier in the game that we kind
of talked about was leaving cast you in for that
sixth inning gets to us career I think career high
of one hundred and fourteen pitches almost gets his career
high of one hundred and fifteen. He gives up the
game time double a cam Smith. It's kind of it's
maybe we do again. We don't know the full context
of who was available, who wasn't, But what is your
(03:14):
thoughts on leaving Castillo in there after he had some
hard contact leading up to that point.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Yeah, I didn't like that either. I mean, you have
the off day on Monday, so you should pretty much
have everyone available to you. Castillo had been laboring, you know,
it's not like he had been dominating throughout that game.
He had kind of settled in there. And obviously he's
a VET. You know, he is the vet in your rotation.
He's a guy that you know you want to go
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to war with at any point, and you know you
had pitching some huge, huge moments for you. But in
that situation, I just I didn't think that made really
any sense whatsoever. That's just a lot to ask of
a guy here, and who, again, is battling. He's not cruising,
he's battling to go that deep in a sorry and
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especially you know, look, I'm not saying that you're running
the risk of injury here or anything like that, but
it is a lot to put on a guy's arm,
especially when you have dealt with a lot of injuries
the right course of the year. I just from any
way that you look at it, I just I really
did not like that decision.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Ty. I want to kind of follow up on that,
and ty Dane Gonzalez is our guest. He's the host
of the Locked On Mariners podcast, also writes for Emerald
City Spectrum, which also Anders writes for as well covers
the Sounders there. Tye, So following up on that, it's
an interesting dichotomy where you look at, you know, the
way that Dan Wilson treats his starting staff specifically like
(04:38):
guys like Wu and guys like Miller, more younger guys
in making sure they don't throw too much, you know,
kind of babing them a little bit for lack of
a better word, and then he'll go out and let
Castillo throw one hundred and fourteen pitches and you more
of an older pitcher.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
It's this interesting dynamic that kind of frustrates me of
kind of like pick a lane, you know, are you
going to think about pictures, you know, and potential for
injury and wanting to extend their arms for thinking about
September and potentially October, or are you going to you know,
let them rock like the Rock did on Sunday and
go one hundred and fourteen And it kind of confuses
(05:12):
me which road he's going to go down when we
see this on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Yeah, so this is kind of where we get into
the territory of like what do we know and what
we don't know? Yeah, you know, what we don't know
and what's going on behind the scenes that maybe we're
not privy to it.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
You know.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Again, maybe there were beyond Munnos, a couple of guys
that they just really didn't want to use on Sunday.
And that's why he pushed Castillo because even with Luis,
he haven't really done this with him this year. He's
been you know, if you're exiting your your final inning
of the day, you know, around or what you would
(05:48):
think would be their final inning of the day at
around you know, ninety four ninety six pitches, which is
around where Cassillo was at the end of what should
have been his last inning on Sunday they usually call it.
So that's it made that incredibly weird. At the very least,
I thought, Okay, maybe they're bringing him in before he
gets to one hundred pitch mark to get another out
or two, you know, just kind of squeeze as much
(06:09):
and joic as you can out of them. But yeah,
the fact that he just kind of continue to let
him go out there, and even when the Astros, you know,
generated some traffic there, and even after the game Tine
hit like he continued to let him out there. I
just I don't know what that was about. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
Yeah, well, let's move to the offensive side of the ball.
And something I've been concerned about and I'm really curious
to what you think about this time, but Jorge Polonko
has not been the same player in the month of May.
I wonder if there's some injury stuff going on there.
He obviously still can't bat right handed, so against left
handed pitching, do we maybe see an iel stink coming,
(06:48):
because even when he is batting left handed, he just
does not look like the same player right now.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Yeah, they've been really mum on that situation. I just
read about this on the Amerald City Spectrum actually just
about fifteen or so minutes ago. I think part of
it is, yeah, like he's clearly reaggravated something, or the
Mariners have just deemed, for reasons unknown, that he can't
play in the field and he can't hit from the
right side of the plate, or that he shouldn't you know,
(07:14):
however you want to look at that, But you know,
I look at the numbers here, and the league has
clearly made an adjustment to him, and he just hasn't
been able to adjust back yet. He saw one hundred
and thirty eight fastballs in March and April, and he
slashed three seventy five four nine five against him. He
also saw one hundred and forty nine off speed and
(07:36):
breaking pitches in March and April. Was actually pretty good
against him, not as good as he was against the fastball,
but still pretty good against him. Four six, three ninety four,
six eighty eight he did with twenty nine point seven
percent of the time on those pitches though. But now
we're seeing more off speed and breaking pitches. He's seen
one hundred and thirty six non fastballs and about of
May and he's slashing one oh seven two nineteen one
(07:58):
o seven with a thirty three point nine percent with rate,
and he's only seen eighty seven fastballs, and even against those,
he's flashing two hundred and two fifty three sixty seven.
So to me, it just kind of seems like he's
all kinds of out of sorts right now. So I
would think that, yeah, there's probably something physical going on there,
(08:18):
because We were obviously expecting regression from him. This was
obviously going to happen because he was hitting well above
even the most optimistic expectations. But he's gone instead of
just normalizing, he's kind of gone from one extreme end
of the spectrum to the other. So I think, yeah,
some of it is just natural regression that you know,
(08:39):
the league has made an adjustment to him and now
he just has to adjust back. But also because of
howse of beer the regression has been, there has to
be something physical going on. I just I can't really
think of any anything else other than that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Well, you know, the injury situation for the Mariners is
what is specifically on the pitching staff and you already
have you know, Rodblaze out and Raley's coming back hopefully soon.
But you know, to lose him, you know, whatever the
numbers have been, you know, and you kind of had
those good stats right there, you definitely can't, I think,
afford to lose the potential of that kind of bad
(09:13):
Ty diggins All is our guest from the Locked On
Mariners Show, and tyber I wanted to ask you about
the Nationals coming up this series starting tonight over at
Teamobile Park, before we get there quickly. Going back to
that pitching staff, this is something that Andrews and I
were talking about the last hour where it looks like
you're going to hopefully have you know, some arms back soon,
and you obviously get Kirby back and you know, we'll
(09:34):
see how he continues to develop after what happened last week.
But getting these pictures back healthy, looking at Logan Evans
and how he's done, you know, the two and one, three, three, three,
era and five starts so far, looking at how Emerson
Hancock's done, He's going Thursday, I'm wondering getting these pictures
back healthy, getting Logan Gilbert back. You know, do you
(09:56):
have the thought to roll out a six man rotation?
This kind of goes to the earlier question of you know,
extending arms, right, Do you go to a six man
rotation for a little bit while you're getting so much
success out of you know, Hancock and out of Evans,
or do you get back down to five and then
send them back to Tacoma?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
I personally would But Daniel Kramer, great writer over at
MLC dot competent an article today talking to Trent Blank,
the director of pitching strategy for the mayors and Jerry
Depoto as well about the possibility of running a six
man rotation, and they said, yeah, it's on the table,
but it's not something that we're planning on right now,
(10:34):
which I find interest in considering that. You know, after
Bryce Miller threw his live VP on Thursday, said that
he's kind of on a six day routine, and we
know that George Curry has been on a six day
routine since he started his rehab assignment. Like you would
think that that means six man rotation, right, But you know,
Trent Blank in that article said that, you know, some
(10:55):
of the guys in the rotation, they don't like having
the extra day off, so that's something that you have
to account for. But it's going to be really interesting
to see kind of how they maneuver this because they
have another off day in the middle of this homestand
they get an off day after the twin series wraps
up on Sunday before they face the Orioles for three
(11:15):
more and then they hit the road after that. But
so Kirby will only pitch once during that stretch, so
he'll get his five full days off in between starts.
But when you get to the Oriole Series and then
the road series against the Angels of the Diamondbacks. You're
gonna be playing nine games and nine days, So in theory,
(11:37):
Kirby is going to have to start twice in the
span of six days. So that doesn't really align with
the timeline that they put him on. Maybe that's when
they bring Millard back into the rotation. Maybe they allow
Logan Evans to start one more time during that stretch
and then they just have Miller slotted in before Kirby
(11:58):
is supposed to start in that push, just curried back
another day. I don't know, but yeah, to me, the
six man rotation makes a lot of sense, especially with
how few off days they have coming up. You know,
at the end of the at the end of June
and into the started to Live, they're going to play
seventeen games in seventeen days. Oh wow. So to me,
it just it would make a lot of sense with
(12:19):
you know, Miller saying that this is something that he's
just going to have to manage. So we don't know
what that's going to look like. We don't know, you know,
how long it's going to take for George Korey to
be kind of in the full swing of things. We
don't know what Logan Gilbert's going to look like when
he gets back all these things. It just feels like,
with what you've gotten out of Logan Evans and Emerson
Hancock to your point, that just makes a lot of
(12:40):
sense to roll with a six man rotation at least
until the All Star break.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Yep, Ti Dang, It's all on with us, host of
the Lockdown Mariners podcast and writer for Emerald City Spectrum
for your Seattle Mariners. So opposite of Polonco, we kind
of got Julio who started off pretty cold in the
month of April but has really come into his own
a little bit in the month of May with the
seven eighty six ops. How have you evaluated his growth
(13:04):
as a player and is this one of those things
where he's going to hopefully grow out of these slow
starts in his first five years in his career or
four years in his career? Excuse me so, but like,
how do you evaluate where he's at offensively? We all
know about what he does with the glob but how
do you evaluate where he's at offensively at this point
the season in his career.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Right now, as far as the month of Mago's. I'm
actually seeing some really positive signs from him. I mean,
he's not striking out much. He's also not walking much,
which means that he's being aggressive early on accounts. He's
and he's making a lot of contact. But you know,
you look at the bat of ball data, like he's
hitting a fair amount of line drives, he's in a
fair amount of fly balls, Like he's not hitting the
(13:48):
ball on the ground a ton. You know, he's two
seventy six three fifteen, four seventy one in the month
of May. Like I'm seeing some good stuff there. You know,
he's hitting for power, just generally hitting the ball hard,
create quality contact more often than that. The one thing
I would like to see from him more is I
would like to see him run a bit more. Now.
(14:09):
I wonder if he has been dealing with something. He
did get scratched from the lineup on Thursday with a
back thing, and it does seem like when he's run
down the first base line a few times he looks
a little stiff, So I do wonder if he's been
dealing with something. But he only has one stolen base
in the month of May, and this is kind of
a team wide issue too. This is something that I
would just like to see from the team a bit
more in general, and I think has kind of led
(14:31):
to some of the offensive issues that they've had this month.
They're just not running at all as a club. They
were running a ton in the month of April and
they've just completely gone away from that. I mean, Julio
has the same amount of stolen bases as Mitch Garver
does this month. That's probably so. Yeah, So I would
like to see Julio run more. But overall, like in
(14:52):
terms of what he's doing with the bat right now,
I'm seeing some really positive signs and I think we're
getting close. I think we're getting close to seeing the
the Julio that we all kind of want to see.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
It feels like Julio is sort of heated up in
the months of June July over the last couple of years,
and if he's making that transition in May, then I
think we're written for a really good summer. If he's
heating up even earlier this year than in past, so
I think there's certainly reason to be very optimistic. I mean,
good day Sunday, and we'll continue to see I think
a good Julio, as the temperatures continue to warm up
(15:23):
as they really started to today and we're going to
see continuing here this week here in Seattle in this
homestand ty. But before we wrap up, one of your
thoughts on the Nationals. I don't know too much about
them here, other than the fact that this is a
team with a twenty four to twenty nine record, fourth
place in the National League East saw them losing a
series to San Francisco over the weekend. What should our
(15:46):
Mariner fan expectations be for this three game series against
the Nationals this week.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
I'll tell you this, the Nationals are incredibly left handed heavy.
I've never seen anything like this. It is possible that
you might see a lineup with nine left handed hitters
tonight from the Nationals.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Their best hitters are left handed.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They have a couple of switcheaders that are obviously going
to hit left handed. You know, it gets the right
he gets, you know, right handed. Heavy Mayor's pitching staff,
So that's going to be a fascinating matchup for them. Really,
the two guys you have to worry about here c
j Abrams and James Wood. Those guys are incredible, and
the rest of the lineup not Green. Nathaniel Low who's
(16:28):
obviously been a guy that's been rumored a lot for
the Mariners in trade talks of the offseason. He's kind
of he's repressed pretty significantly. He's about nine percent below
league adage right now as a hitter, Kyvirit Ruiz, Luis Starcia,
Josh Bell. Those are guys that, like they can obviously
do damage against you. You know, you can't just kind
(16:48):
of write them off. But they've all been well below
league average so far this year. So if you handle
Abrams and Wood, you should be able to uh manage
your way around the rest of the salina. What's going
to be interesting here, though, is the pitching matchups on
the on the national side of things, You're going to
(17:08):
see a couple lefties in the series, like you saw
a couple of lefties in the Astro series. So get
ready to see Donovan Solano, Mitch Garber, guys like that.
Probably not a whole lot of for a Pelonco except
for tomorrow against Trevor Williams. And Tremor Williams is the
guy that throws a lot of change ups and the
Marrors not particularly good at hitting changeups, so I don't
(17:30):
think this is a great matchup for for the Mayor's
offense on paper, especially with the struggles that we've seen
from them so far. This might be a low scoring
series because of you know, again, the Nationals line up
beyond Abrams of Wood should be handled pretty pretty well
by this marriage pitching staff, at least on paper. So yeah,
(17:51):
it's gonna be gonna be a fascinating matchup for the
Mayors as a whole. That that that matchup on Thursday.
Kensey Gore, he's the guy that's missed a lot of bats.
Amara's strikeout rate has gone up in the month of May,
so we'll see how that goes. But also, the Maras
have handled you know, the best pitchers in the game
really well, you know, Terri Schooglar Crochet, Michael King, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
(18:14):
So maybe that's the one that they get up for.
Who knows, So we'll see, But it's definitely a winnable
series for the Marrors.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I would say that you talk about their bats and
it just sounds like a potential get right start for
George Kirby you know, after what he's returned last week,
and I would love to see George Kirby go out
there and look like the George Kirby old. This coming well,
that's tomorrow. He pitches on Wednesday. Feels like a Monday.
I was about to say, you know, coming up in
a couple of days, but that's feeling a Monday after
Memorial Day. Ty, I'm gonna make sure this isn't the
(18:42):
last time we talked to you here on the three
to seven show. Man, this was awesome. Thanks for all
the great information. We'll make sure to read your stuff,
Emerald City Spectrum, your podcast Locked on Mariners.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Appreciate the time, Man.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Yeah, I appreciate it, zactly.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
Take care, Ty, Dane Gonzalez.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Great stuff here as we look ahead for the Marriners
starting the series against the Nationals. Reading between the lines,
and it sounds like if we get the good pitching performances,
then I think expectation is win two out of three,
no doubt about it. Well, you know, Anders, it's funny
because you know maryor fans, we often sometimes clown on
the team for you know, taking priority of bobblehead nights
(19:18):
and you know where the wins. You're caring about the
bobblehead nights and whatever's going out at the stadium. I
am not part of necessarily that crew overwhelmingly, but there
was something that else that happened in the sports the
world that reminded.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Me of it over the weekend.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
A quite embarrassing social media post by a soccer franchise
that is going to make Mariner fans say, thank goodness,
that isn't us. We'll get to that next Textimonials four
forty five, John Wilmer five o'clock, Dan Wilson five thirty,
Brian Spencer five forty five. All ahead here on Sports
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