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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
You know Jack, So one of my favorite things to
do here in Washington has come over and talked to
Pat Shuhn.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Because Pat shun.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
Is not like other AD's a lot of other ads
that I've spoken to. We'll talk before we go on
the air, and there's always one question I get from
that man or woman before they come on the air,
and Hey.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
What do you want to talk about? I don't get
that ever from you.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I feel like either A you don't give a damn right,
which is certainly possible, or B I can just spring
you whatever I want to spring you with and you'll
answer as honest as you can.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Well, I'll be honest. I'm only here because of jusement.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Oh really, okay, gotcha? Gotcha?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Oh, it's good to see cats and dogs get along.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
It is well, she loves this place.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
She told me she wanted to come see you with
a real college football stadium, so instead of the high
school sadium, she sees six times a year in Pullman,
but it's good to see a patch on the eighty
at Washington this year and second year in a row.
Now that we've done this Dogs after Dark thing on Friday,
which selfishly I love because it opens.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Up to Saturday.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
By okay, so I'm working anyway happy hour though you
miss on a Friday.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He trust me, that's gonna start in about five minutes
as it as you're done, So talk to me about this.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
I'm trying to remember were you here last year for
this thing? You were, so your.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Thoughts on this idea, what we learned about what makes
it tick differences from a year ago to today because
this will be an annual thing.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
This is not going away, right Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Well one, I think it's just trying to market the
team a little bit differently at the end of the day.
I mean, this is a practice. It's the last practice
of the spring. Who knows what springball is? And it
look like in college football next year anyway, sure with
the with the way we're headed, but I think it's
just also, you know, we've got we got I think
we're gonna get lucky with weather tonight, and I think
we have fifty thousand tickets out. You know, if we
get a fifty percent show rate, that that'd be incredible.
(01:58):
I think what everyone here we'll see is a very
how much we've changed over a year. I think most
specifically on the offense, on the line of scrimmage. The
Big Ten. You know that, you you know, the Big
Ten is a line of scrimmage league. You have to
win the line of scrimmage. And it's been pretty it's
been pretty fun. I mean I've told a lot of people,
you know, the past thirteen months, I've watched coach fish
poor concrete into this football program, and really the foundation
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has to be the line of scrimmage. And I think,
if anything, the fun part is it's kind of a
year marker of where we're at. And you know, we'll
have you know, we'll have a really good we'll have
you know, we'll have a good crowd tonight. I think
we have more recruits, more, more higher rated recruits here today.
The talent on the fields different. You don't have to
ask who a number one quarterback is, right, he may
(02:41):
not take a snap either, yeah, but oh yeah, but
you're it's gonna be important to see you the number
two quarter.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yeah so so. But if he takes a snap, I
probably you ain't. No one's gonna touch him, right, yeah so,
But I think it just shows here we're growing and
at the end of the day, you know, these are
all little markers of uh, you know, we gotta be
a program that's constantly and this is just a nice
marker year over year how.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Much we've improved.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, I thought the crowd last year was great, right,
I mean, you're looking to improve, but comparatively, speaking.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
To before, Chris Pearson told me last year, if you
get one person over ten thousand, sh be doing.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Car I have no question about that. But here's the thing.
You need a coach to embrace it. And I was
talking to Tony about this just a few hours ago,
Pat that nobody's embraced this the way Jed has. Yeah,
I mean he's embraced everything with the program. I've often wondered,
does he have his hand.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
In too much?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
To be honest with you, what do you think about
that from an AD's perspective, Because Jed's talked about the
training table, he's talked about the TV broadcast, he's talked
about the spring game, he's talked about tickets, He's talked
about salegating. I've never heard of coach talk more about
everything happening with the program more so than Jed Fish
And I almost wonder when I showed up, is he
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worried about too much stuff?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Well, unfortunately, I've been around coaches that have won national
championships in their career and they are very meticulous and
very invested right and and and have opinions on a
lot of things. So it is not it is not
abnormal for me personally good to have a coach that
wants to understand everything in and around the program, which
is Alfie. Now, at the end of the day, it's
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recruiting and x's and o's that matter. Uh, he gets
at and and he's you know, he's he's you know,
laser focused on recruiting. You know, I think the changes
we've made with the staff this last year, just because
we've had to bring in some new people, I think
everyone's going to be happy with what they see. So,
you know, it's it's he's a coach that he's fully
invested in and i'd probably you know, for those who
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are listening, you know, it's it's kind of indicative of Hey,
he's he's trying to build a program that's durable because
he wants to be here a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Yeah, no doubt. Well one of the curve balls I
was going to ask you, by the way. Yeah, And
this is the fun part of your job. You get
to come on shows like this and get challenged.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
I mean, I'll take fastballs.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
I'll give you a few easy ones, you know, right
down the middle. But you just mentioned that you know
he wants to be here a long time. We've seen
coaches we're literally a year into their contract. There's already
conversations about extension.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Has any of that talk even begun with Jed and
his represent.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Me personally, I keep those conversations.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
Come on, it's just between us.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
So all those all those conversations anything with contracts, Yeah,
that'll always be between me and the head coach.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Ok okay, regardless of the sports. So we're learning stuff
about you on the fly years. So no more contract
questions or we can ask you, but you won't answer.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'll dance around the curve back.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Well, I'm looking at a story here that came out
yesterday and says Texas is going to spend.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
You saw this right between.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Thirty five and forty million dollars on its football team
in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Where are we compared to them?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Well, we're going to be at the max of Revshire,
So that's twenty point five of it, and then whatever
we're at on top of on top of what this
roster is at. So I would probably say, I mean,
the reality is, I don't know what retention looks like.
When the picture you have on there is the most
recognizable person in college football.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Right now, that's un.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
So every every place a little bit different. But we're
we're at max with uh, we'll be at max with
with repshare.
Speaker 3 (06:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
You know, in this new environment that we're hopefully going
to be in if if Judge Wilkin approves the settlement,
we believe we're gonna be at we have it. We
will have a competitive advantage because of Seattle. We've we've
created our own marketing agency internally, Dogs Unleashed. We've been
talking with businesses. I mean, obviously, the the the portfolio
of businesses in this community is unlike any other in
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the book Big ten. I mean, this is different than
l A one because we have such a huge piece
of the market here. And two, I mean two of
the most five two of the five most profitable companies
in the world are here in Amazon and Microsoft. And
we already talk about everybody else.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
And iHeartMedia about that, and I heeart media.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
So we have there's a there's a there's a yeah,
there's a lot of opportunity. But me personally, just so
you know, I do not compare us to others.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
I thought my focus is Washington being the best Washington
is supposed to be.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
I I don't know Pat, And again Pat is with
us if the average fan like these two knuckleheads over here,
But no, no, I pointed this way. My god, I
would never ever do that. I know who you run with.
I don't want to mingle and anger those types of people.
But the the twenty point five million, the rep shure
that you're talking, Yeah, that is total dollars spent on
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all sports sports.
Speaker 3 (07:19):
Yes, so how much of that's going to the football team?
Speaker 4 (07:21):
So we we will give the I guess our formula. Obviously,
football is the reason why all this revenue is here, right,
So our primary stapiments are going to be football, men's basketball,
women's basketball, volleyball, and softball. But I mean, obviously a
lion share that is going to go to the football program.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Sure got you so.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
And it's just it's it's a byproduct of a bunch
of bunch of reasons. One, it's it's the league that
we're in. I mean, this is a football league. Uh
and and for us and we're in this and and
Washington is in the Big Ten because of our football program, right,
so they go hand in hand. I mean, we we
had a bunch of our alumps here last night and
I reminded him, you know, this is seven hundred and
eighty wins, what four three bowl games, eighteen conference championships,
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two national championships, like that's some that is significant history
with this program, and our duty is to add to that.
And without that history, we would not be in the
Big ten.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's actually three if you include the eighty four Chicago
Tribune pole by the way, But.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
We're the type of school we don't have to. We
have an option of acknowledging.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay, some peoples don't have that.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Some schools don't have that option of acknowledging.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Hey, I tell you just to not I mean, doesn't
Alabama have like fifteen unrecognized titles that they claim or whatever.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
But patch on with us again, you have ada.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I'm just wondering about the negotiations that go on and
how and maybe take us behind the scenes a bit
if you can. So the situation with the kid from
Tennessee that went to UCLA, Yeah, clearly wasn't happy, wanted
to renegotiate his deal.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
How concerned should I be?
Speaker 2 (08:46):
As Dave the dog fan, That's something like that could
happen here during spring football during the season, where a
player would go to JEDED and say, hey, I'm outperforming
my deal, I want more, or I'm gonna walk.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
It's indicative of the environment we're in. Hopefully in this
next phase we have meaningful contracts. There's a lot that
has to happen college football to get there good. Our
revenue share year will be July one to June thirtieth.
That has to the football calendar has to reflect that.
So and the best example of what has to change
is the portal. They just don't work anymore. But there's
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a lot that's that's baked into that. So it's it's
you know, we're an industry that for for since the
beginning of a time or since the beginning of agents
being a part of it. They they they they understand
what the opportunities are. Clearly, the young man felt like
he he he wanted needed more money. That took him
to UCLA. We'll see how it ends up for him.
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But you know, it's it's it's it's a it's a
it's a sad example of what college football is supposed
to be. I mean it's like, it's it's fun being
around all these alums the last couple of days because
you know, it's it's different. I mean, college football is different.
We get it now. The world's changed. It is nego
like the dollars do matter, what the revenue sharing with
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athletes does matter. But the hope is we buying people,
you know, hopefully the experience there's a there. We can
time with emotion, like, we can time with connectivity like
they like hopefully in this time, like we can connect
them with their teammates, connect them with friends on campus,
connect them with the professors, connected with this UDUB experience,
because there's still you know, we believe there's immeasurable value
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in this UDUB experience. But that's a tough situation. And
you don't wish ill on anybody, but you know Tennessee
lost in that, and the young man lost.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
That, right, no doubt.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Well Pat young with us, And again, I mean you
mentioned meetingful contracts, like, yeah, we're talking multi year deals,
like a kid could agree to a four year deal
a three years good.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Yeah, I mean we'll see what the market. You know,
it's going to be market driven to a certain degree,
but sure, you know, and probably the best example of
you know of Jed building for the for a long
future here is we're focused on high school recruiting. Like
if he was burning through a bunch of fifth, fourth
and fifth year guys right now, I'd probably be worried
that he's got a short term plan. Yes, but he's
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doing it. But you know he's he's doing it by
doing because he knows he has to attract and retain
and develop young people from the high school ranks. So
and so part of it is you talk about where
the future is, you know, part of is identifying the
right guys, right you know, it's like, you know, John
Mills is here, a lot of schools wanted him. Uh,
he's got he's a generational husky, and I'm not saying
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that doesn't guarantee anything right away, but it is very
very personal to to to John Mills and his family
for him to be at Washington.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
So this spring game thing that we're doing, this dog's
after dark. A lot of teams aren't doing this. Yeah,
they've canceled spring games. Yeah, Texas is one of them,
by the way. Yeah, I mean that's amazing. That's Texas, right,
one of the blue bloods of college football, winning his
programs in college football history, has said we're done with
the spring game.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Can you ever imagine that happening here?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Yeah? I could see that happening. Yeah. I think the
whole calendar is going to change that. That's my opinion
with these with these new contracts and what happens to
spring football in general, I think is going to be
impacted by got.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You, got you, By the way, Just for the record,
just so we know moving forward, you and me, I
was not referring to your wife as a knucklehead, Okay,
but if I did refer to your wife as a knucklehead,
what's what's the reaction there?
Speaker 4 (12:13):
For me? I would get punched if you refer to
her by her, by her.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
And then I would get punched by you, and nobody
wants to get punched by anybody.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Funny thing is she actually is laughing.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I would never do that, hey, and I I hope
that you never give me a reason to call you
a knucklehead.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
That'd be awest and if you do, we'll be friends.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Okay that night, but hey, good stuff, have fun. That
appreciated by dogs.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
You go, dogs, Pat Schohn with us on the radio
show We're Gonna Break, come back and wrap it up
before the spring game, Dogs after Dark, kickoff at six thirty,
pregame at six with Tony and Cam right here on
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