Furness Show 10-1: Jon Ryan, Joe Sheehan, Cougar Roundtable.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's finally happened. Key card doesn't work. Not even a joke,
not even a joke. It's been it's been losing its
juice the last couple of weeks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
It's a maybe card.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Or it was yeah, it was this a card. Now
it's a workday outage. What's that mean?

Speaker 2 (00:20):
That means I couldn't even believe my training.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
Or you're late on that beat me and I did too.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, that's why I couldn't get on. It's it's not
my fault. I still have a mobile Okay, okay, ten
to fifteen minutes. She told me. I spent thirty seven
minutes on holder.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Guy, and I appreciate you more than I can tell you.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
I was saying, I know what Ian appreciates that.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
I said. He came out and thanked me.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
My patience not good.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
I know you well enough to know that I could
do that.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
I think I'm the only person left with a card key.
Everyone else uses this mobile app thing that I still
use it. Oh do you?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Why is your like the last one?

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Because the newer was?

Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh, because you were there in the old side of
the building. I was right, Okay, that's why. Yeah, mine doesn't.
It's it's over done.

Speaker 4 (01:08):
We are ten to fifteen minutes away from you having
mobile access.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
I I thought for a second about just bailing.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
You don't want me in this building?

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Fine, I thought, just my I'm just gonna bail. I'm
out of here. Thanks for coming, toodles right, see you later.
Thanks for coming. I'm out. I'm gone. I appreciate you guys,
see you later. But yeah, it didn't work. I don't
know if anybody else has. Our corporate world is so
messed up, man, like, nobody works. We have it just
it's messed up. But I appreciate Jess more than I

(01:39):
can say because she was on the Your call may
be recorded. Well, first of all, it's got to go
through like hello, go through. But we move on. I'm here.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I guess you got in the building somehow. I heard
the little poultry fresh and check for key. Okay, Oh nope,
not there, yep, No, I'm out.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah, you're already in here.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You can't leave to Cracking Ticket Tuesday. I should point
that out. We're giving away tickets to the Cracking game
coming up on the twenty second of October against the
Avalanche of Colorado. You kidding me, Like, that's not a okay,
I'm gonna be honest. Sometimes we give stuff away and
I'm like, it's like a VHS tape. You don't even

(02:21):
have VHS tapes anymore, and we still give those. It's
like a big guys on the street. That's like a
big prize for us. Yeah, Colorado Avalanche, that's a huge game.
This isn't and Greg and our time this earlier. This
isn't the equivalent of you know, the Who's Like, I
guess today's Today's Angels without Mike Trott without Otania, like
the Angels on a Tuesday tickets, Like, we sometimes have

(02:42):
a hard time giving those away if we try to
do that. That's what like this is. This is the
Yankees on a Saturday, right, and so it's the Avalanche
on the twenty second of October. We're giving those sects away.
When you hear the sounder not now, yeah, when you
hear this, and it's very obvious, I think it's ever
with a goald call or something like that. Right, there's
the whole there's the horn. When you hear that, if

(03:02):
you're the tenth caller at two oh six two eight
six ninety five, ninety five. Then you will win those
tickets against the Avalanche Tuesday October or on October twenty second.
What's the day of the week of that. I don't
even know what that day is, October twenty second.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's a Tuesday, I'm nice, all right, wrong it is?

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Oh my god, you're right, it is a Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
We're guessing right over here.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
Another extra baseit for the Tigers. They're just laying on
them right now.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
No, last night, don't go Detroit tonight today.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, Detroit, We very much go to Troit. We'll get
to that in a second. Gonzaga is now a member
of the Pacific twelve Conference twelve, we will be okay.
Nobody's math. Nobody has good math today.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
I'm sorry. How many teams are.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
In the Big tun and or the Big twelve or
the Big twelve, eight ten and eight twelve by that
right now? Yes, but well we'll get into that a
little bit later on. I think it's great for a
lot of different reasons. I know, this is a football
world we're living in right now. We all understand that,
we understand where the revenue comes from. No one's naive
enough to think that that's not the case. But as
you're building your conference up, the cachet and just what

(04:06):
Gonzaga brings in terms of branding and the name value
is massive. And I'm sorry this will this Husky Hawks
DA at four o'clock. You guys can react because I
know you know you're I listened to you guys the
other night. I was watching a little bit of a
third period of a cracking preseason game. I listened to
you guys. Yeah, you guys should have won. You should
be you should be five And oh, well, you're not. Okay,

(04:28):
you're delusional sometimes, So I know that the loser mind
if they hear this Greg, specifically Greg Lewis, Gonzaga's basketball brand.
I'm going to state this right now. Gonzaga's basketball brand
is the biggest brand right now in this state for
college athletics, not even oh Okay athletics, Sorry, I college athletics.

(04:50):
It's a bigger brand than Washington football.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Actually, Gonzaga basketball is massive. It's like, I think it's
number two to Oregon football in the Northwest and on
the West coast. USC is right up there too with football,
but it's Gonzaga twenty five straight years at the NCAA tournament.
They draw television ratings, they draw revenue. They just told
they just told the regional sports network here that they

(05:13):
don't want any part of them anymore. They're that big.
They can do that. That's who they are. So I
think it's massive. It doesn't help football, it doesn't help
the conference get that that needed team to play football,
but it does fill in some gaps with some other sports,
So I love it. We'll getting more of that a
little bit later on seahawks Bury the lead. Sorry about that.
We'll get to John Ryan in a few minutes. But

(05:36):
how do you come away with anything besides being encouraged
by yesterday? Seriously and no moral victories? Guys that hate that,
I understand that. But if I was doing postgame yesterday,
I would have I would have asked the question, are
you encouraged by where you are right now? They're a
better baseball team or a better baseball team? Sorry, I'm watching.
I'm watching this playoff game. They're a better football team now,

(05:58):
and they looked better last night despite the issues on defense,
then certainly did the first three weeks. The offense came together.
Forsyth allowed fifteen pressures. I think it was from Aden Hutchinson,
but he didn't get to Geno. The offense line was
a little bit better. We mentioned, you know, ken Walker
ran for eighty yards bounce it outside. The difference that

(06:19):
he makes is a massive, massive I thought, once again,
this league has an officiating problem. We can debate. I
think Tyler Lockett at worst is a fifty to fifty call.
That's a fifty to fifty call. Okay, you called it.

Speaker 3 (06:33):
It sucks at that point in the game. On on
that down too.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Because I'd make an argument that the guy was jamming
into him, yes, right, like it's it's inherent. Is it inherent?
On the wide receiver to get out of the way,
he went right at the guy and the guy I
mean they call, I don't know. I think it's a
non call. But can you call that DK and the
end zone gets tackled and the officials right there. This
league has a massive issue. It just I talked to

(06:58):
Hugh Froll the humill in conversation like ten forty five
last night. It was awesome.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I love on the phone, yes, and you know and
you know me sleep well, you know me.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
I don't talk on the phone.

Speaker 2 (07:09):
I know you always send me to boysmail I do.

Speaker 3 (07:12):
He doesn't text us if you want to talk to him.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
So I called. I talked to Hugh and we're talking.
Like he said, it's like like that that Tyler thinks.
You know, you could call that a lot of times. So,
but that wasn't the issue. It's not why they lost
the game. I have a huge issue with the tat
with with DK in the end zone. I just I
don't know how that disc goes uncalled first team multi game.
A lot of things changed. There are some knuckleheads out

(07:36):
that I want to beat up on DK for fumbling.
I don't know. Man, a guy goes three straight games
one hundred yards. He's DK Metcalf.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
One of the best receivers in the league.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
He fought for an extra yard. McDonald covered him afterwards.
I'm not telling my guys to go down early. Whatever.

Speaker 4 (07:50):
Man, it's mistakes are going to happen when you're that active.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
It's just I'm a D fan. I'm a DK fan.
I just I you tell me this team is good
without him, huh? Like, come on, nice to see Jake
Bobo get involved a little bit. Love to see rookie
tight end get himself a TD. There was so much
good for the offense in that game, and then I'll
look at the defense and you say to yourself, Wow,

(08:15):
what happened? Well, it's pretty simple. You cannot take out
that level of talent off of your front four or
five whatever they are, three four five that have you
want to define the front. You cannot take that level
of talent out against that offense and expect to be
at the capacity to win a football game. It's just reality.

(08:35):
It's just his reality. Fifty three man roster, salary cap league.
You can't build up depth. I love Miles Adams. We
may even have on the show tomorrow.

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Miles.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Miles Adams is not Leonard Williams, okay, and guys off
the street are not Leonard Williams either. Guys on playing
on the edge like Gibson that were available at the
end of training camp, that ain't boy him off a
It's just a different level of player. But they hung
around man and by the way, fact we did it

(09:05):
to be wrong, but we weren't wrong. Well, I like
it was it was. I thought it would be close,
and it could have been close. It was close than
the scord. Yeah. By the way. My conversation with you
last night about twenty minutes was the two point conversion math. Yeah,
it's the right call. It's it's the right at the
time of the game. It's what you do. Yes, I
get it. Nobody got it. It felt like it made
him because they didn't get there chasing. Now everyone Seattle

(09:27):
hates analytics. The screw up. The screw up came from
upstairs when they didn't challenge. Yeah, and it's not a
scoring play, so they can't review it, so they have
to you have to challenge yourself, and they didn't challenge.
And that's where like a guy like Carl Smith, old
Tater who'd been here a million years.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
Or that's that's peak care emotional challenge flag.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
That's well. I always we always kind of looked back
and said, if the challenge was good, it was probably
from Tatah. If if it was Pete Carroll emotional, then
it was. Yeah. But that but they, I mean, they've
got to correct that because that was a mistake. Yeah,
but mistakes happened. Yeah, I'm encouraged they'll win the next
game and then take their chances in two weeks. Two

(10:08):
weeks from Thursday on or no week from Thursday, I
should say on Thursday, foe.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Yeah, short week, short week, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
Very short week. Okay. John Ryan standing by, we'll get
to him. Coming up, we'll talk more about what happened
last night. We'll get more into baseball, the playoffs. We
even touched it on Pete Rose Jo Sheen will join
us talk about that. Coming up at one o'clock ninety
three point three KJFM.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
It's time for Ian's weekly visit with former Seahawks bunner
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Speaker 1 (10:54):
All right, John Ryan joins us. By the way, it
is a cracking ticket Tuesday here on Sports Radio niney
three point three kjf M. And when you hear the
sounder play at anytime the tenth collar two six two
A six ninety five ninety five pair of tickets the
Krakens game on October twenty second against the Colorado Avalanche.
Really cool prize, so make sure you listen for that
throughout the day. Dude, every hour on the hour, John

(11:14):
Ryan joining us, Hello, sir, are you good?

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Pretty good?

Speaker 1 (11:18):
But I'm good man, I'm just I'm better now. My
great producer Jessman here, she got my new card key
fixed here.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
To make sure my guys get in the door.

Speaker 6 (11:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
I couldn't get in the door today, John, the card
key didn't work. That's never a good sign. It's never
a good sign. How's it work in the NFL? Do
you guys have a card key in the back lot
there at the Seahawks And if it doesn't work, do
you know there's pretty much a bag waiting for a
year locker. Howd that work?

Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, you have a key card. And that was always,
especially when I was younger, I was playing Green Day
every morning. I was like, please work, please work, you know,
just you know it's the you get that pink slip
and that's not not what you want to see. So yeah,
it was always. It was nervous. It go for a bit,
but for a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Yeah, you're like, you're like, oh, it's not working. You
buzz security, They let you in, they say, hey, the
GM wants to see you. You know, like got great,
fantasticook Yeah, that's fun. That's good time. See hello, Regina,
here we come. John Ryan joining us right now on

(12:17):
the Beacon Plumbing Hotline. We were talking this earlier. I
the NFL is different than a lot of sports. Was
just you know, seventeen games sixteen when you were playing
right for the most part. But you know, so so
every week is huge. But boy, I sure came away
from last night's game encouraged. I don't know if a
player would feel that way, but but I I sure
kind of came away encouraged with all the guys that
are missing up front on that defense, Uh, for the

(12:39):
offense to kind of come alive like that. They just
couldn't stop Detroit. But that's probably not a surprise. Is
there such a thing? I don't think it's a moral victory,
But can you come away and going, all right, we're
making progress this season and we're three and one.

Speaker 6 (12:50):
Yeah, I think a little bit. You know, inside of
the locker room, we don't really talk like that. You know,
to either win or you lose, and you're you're happier,
you're you're you're peeted off. You know, it's one or
the other. But you know, as a fair now I
was encouraged. You know, you don't like to see a
team give up forty two points and you know, made
Jared Goff look like a future Hall of Famer. But
at the same time, as you said, the guys were
missing up front and on the other side of the

(13:12):
ball to see how we moved the ball and see
how well Gino played almost passed me if I think
it almost passed for four hundred yards. I think it
was encouraging.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
You guys, Fletch walk us through how a player flushes it,
because I think this is something that I've always found
really fascinating fans. If your team loses, fans a lot
of times are just like, yeah, man, like we're this
is just this is hard, this is brutal. You know,
we're not just it's and you just kind of you're
depressed for a couple of days. The coffee doesn't taste

(13:41):
as good in the morning the next day. I always
kind of felt like fans took it harder. You guys
get on a plane. Those guys got on a plane
last night at two in the morning whenever it was
in Detroit time, got here back here about four in
the morning Pacific time. How quick do they flush that thing?

Speaker 6 (13:56):
You know, you go in today and you watch the
film and then after that you move on to the
next And especially this week on a short week, and
the next week, like back to back short weeks, you
have to have a yet out, a short term memory,
you know, you kind you learn from your mistakes this morning,
watch the films, and then you just you got to
forget about it and move on.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
You can't.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
You can't live in the past in the NFL, or
you'll continue to to go down that losing spiral. So yeah,
it's it's by by noon today you kind of flushed
it out and you're on to the next.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
We were looking at some numbers yesterday with one of
other guests about you know, quarterbacks around the league and
Jane Daniels and Washington's doing some things and one of
the guys in terms of his year, like a stretch
he's on now he's doing in his first four games.
But it's the stretch that it's comparable, and I think
it's second only to the stretch that Russell had his
rookie year twenty twelve. But that was basically to close

(14:45):
out the season. What do you remember from that? And
I bring that up, because I like, Russ has kind
of become a little bit of a running joke now
the entourage. Now he's a backup, you know, Steel City
and all the little phrases. But I remember covering. I
covered the game in Chicago, and I'll start there, John,
you guys lost in Miami and you kind of had
to win out. Now it was twenty twelve to get

(15:06):
to the postseason. You go to Chicago, you win that
overtime game, Sydney has a touchdown after he came back
to take the lead, and Russ was just got on
a heater. What do you remember about that run with
this guy? Because I feel like, and I'll get to
Gino in a second, but that type of run with
a quarterback is massive.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Yeah, you know, it was the first time since you know,
I got there. It was the first time where I
was like, well, I can actually see what Pete and
John have in store, like what they have in mind,
the direction they're trying to take this team. And that
was the first time he started to feel that, you know,
and Russ just kind of took over and it was
a man, it was a fun run to be on.
I remember going going and played in Toronto against Buffalo

(15:43):
and just absolutely trusting them. And it just seemed like
every week it was like we were on We're riding
this wave. And you know, it kind of went right
into the twenty thirteen season, I think, you know, especially
you know, when I was there with Moron. Then you know,
Pete came in, and you know, we kind of had
a up of rough years with Pete. You know, we
were seven to nine in the first two years he
was there, and then there's finally in twenty twelve when

(16:06):
Rush you know, went on that run, I was like, man,
we just like, now now I see where we're going.
This is gonna be fun. And it was, you know,
that was I don't know if that was the best
directive for Russ's career, but you know, at the time,
it definitely felt like it. You know, it was it
was fun to be a part of it.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
So it shows you got to have a quarterback quarterback, right,
it just shows you got to have a You've got
to have an elite quarterback or a guy playing at
a high level. And that's that's what he did. God
forgot about the Buffalo game. I was up there for
that one too. That was That's I think I think
both him and Marshawn ran for one hundred yards in
that game. That was crazy, and it was like it
was like a home game for you guys. That's supposed
to be Buffalo's home game. It was like a home
game for you guys. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
There's like twelve twelve miles from Buffalo and apparently noted
there has a passport because it was the Buffalo fans.

Speaker 7 (16:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well, the guys and the guys, the people in GTA,
they don't want, they don't wan anybody from Toronto are
from Buffalo rolling into town. John Ryan joining us right now.
I bring that up because Gino feels like he like
last night, really the last couple of weeks, wee Gino
just take that next step, and you know he's he's
in his thirties, guy's been downed for a long time,
but he started in New York. And you know, I
think we're seeing Aaron Rodgers. It's like we're all quarterbacks

(17:10):
go to dies with the Jets. Jess jests yet sorry Jess,
and I mean but as like, but I just I
feel like like Gino probably gives those guys a chance
to win every night. There's probably an air of confidence
with him right now, the way he's playing.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Oh, definitely. I think there's never been any shortage of
confidence with Gino, and you know, that's that's what I
want out of my quarterback. You know, I think he
thinks he's one of the top you know, three or
four quarterbacks in the league, and we're we're starting to
see that he might be. You know, it's weird to
be like, Wow, this this kid is really onto something
and we wait, he's thirty four or whatever. You know,
he's been around for so long, and I think that
he's finally be able to like show what he's got

(17:44):
to prove himself. And I think to do have a
game that he did last night in national television. Uh,
you know, you don't want to say his coming out
party is at thirty four, but I think people are
kind of starting to take notice what he's got.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Just maybe he just takes a while. Like every guy
is different, right, every athlete is different in every sports
different some time, and especially to that position where I
guess it was big Geene Daniels remarkable what he's doing
right now and what other young quarterbacks c J. Stroud
did last year, we've seen him take a little bit
of a step back. But watching what Straus or what
the Daniels is doing. John Ryan joining us here on
the Beacon pumpmy hotline for a few more moments. This week,

(18:16):
we visited by Twayzik's Pizza. John. DK gets a little
bit of criticism here and there, but the numbers don't lie.
Three straight games of one hundred yards. He's become just
an absolute force out there. But he had the fumble yesterday.
Do we forgive DK Metcalf for the fumble? It's a mistake.
I'm sure he wants it back, you know, Jersey got
pulled out, sure's hanging out whatever it was, but he

(18:39):
fumbled the ball kind of it cost him seven points. Actually,
it is probably a epa world of analytics, it's probably
at least a ten, you know point turnaround maybe along
the way. What do we feel about DK and that turnover?

Speaker 6 (18:52):
We're gonna forgive him? You know, I think that DK
has contributed so much for this team, I think in
the past few years, or some concerns with his attitude,
but how emotionally got some of the bad penalties he took,
and uh, you know, I don't see this becoming a
routine thing that we see him fumbling every week. I
think it was a you know, just a bad play
by him. You know, he just poor poor ball protection,

(19:12):
and it happens, you know, but I think he is
he's such a weapon on offense and uh, you know,
he's just the guy, just the beast. So you know,
he he's gonna make a lot of great plays and
you know, hey, yeah, that's probably a ten point sling
last night, but he's gonna more than make up for that,
and you know the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
I think, how does that go over in the film room?
Is it did? Do you dwell on it? Or do
you just move on? And like, he probably beats himself
up more than anybody, right, Like if guys, you know,
if the guy drops the ball or fumbles or causes
a turnover, right, that's probably that's probably something he beats
himself up for as much as anything.

Speaker 8 (19:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
I mean, you know when I used to shake him
shank a punt, I knew before anyone else knew that
it was it was a terrible butt. And you know
it was.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
Nobody goes, hey, John, that's a bad tips.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Yeah, yeah, but I thought of that older I would
just set up about it because they know how hard
I am on myself. I think that you know, DK
is a competitor that he is. He's probably hard around
himself than anything I know that you know, playing for
pet he used to always draft ball security. So it's
definitely something that will be brought up in film, probably
with the team film this morning. And you know, you
feel like you're standing in the middle of the room,
spotlight on you when that happens. But you know, as

(20:15):
I said, DK is just the guy's a beast, and
you know, I think that he's gonna be forgiven pretty
quickly inside that locker room.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
All right, help me out here, because you brought up
Pete in ball security. You played for him for a while,
but he also played a year for Laura. I know
you probably won't forget that. And you had the last
year that Mike was here with the homegrouners here as well.
Is there any coach that doesn't preach ball security, because
everyone every time I hear that from a head coach,
you know, it's all about the ball. It's hell, my
kids college coach right now, It's all about the ball.
It's all about the ball. And I'm like, like, you

(20:42):
guys all say that, like you're saying something unique. Has
there ever been a coach that says, yeah, ball security
is okay, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
It's never happened. But I've never seen a coach so
fanatical about it like Pete. I remember the very first
meeting in April twenty ten whatever it was, when he
got there, he walked in. The very first thing he said,
he put up the ball and said, it's all about
the ball. This game is all about the ball. He
can't win without the ball. And that was the very
first thing he ever said to the team, and he
stressed it more than anyone I've ever been around. And uh,

(21:11):
you know, and I don't know if it paid off
or not, but I think it did. You know, it
was definitely something that was considered very important within the
in that team.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
John Ryan joining us his weekly visit. We love it
every week. It's fantastic, good stuff, my friend, have a
great week. Be lucky that you're not playing three games
in what is it, eleven days?

Speaker 7 (21:30):
Even days?

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Yeah, yeah, we'll touch it on that next week. Because
even if you're kicking and punting and holding and doing
everything else, that's just I can't that's it seems like
cruel and unusual what they're doing to Seattle right now. Altho,
they'll making Detroit. I think Detroit's got to fly to Europe?

Speaker 6 (21:43):
Right?

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Aren't they playing in London next weekend? That's coming with?

Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (21:46):
They are they are? Yeah, Like, that's that's not I mean,
what did we do to go?

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Well?

Speaker 1 (21:53):
What did Detroit do? Like, because this isn't New York
and that's they had an extra what that's probably an
extra hour and a half for Detroit then it would
be if you're like one of the East Coast teams, right,
I mean they're on the East Coast time zone. But
that's that's brutal. That's tough. I can't feel sorry for him.
They'll screw them. They beat us, all right, Uh, John,
we'll talk to you next week, my friend. Thank you.

(22:14):
Forward to it. That's John Ryan joining us here on
the bea complolling hotline. Great stuff with him.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Like Seattle man, there's something about the NFL and Seattle, Like.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
The NFL is a grind and there's and it's probably
no perfect way to do a schedule, but yeah, I
like to play Monday Sunday at home, and then the
following Thursday.

Speaker 4 (22:33):
Yeah, and then Detroit on a short week, has to
go across the punk m h.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
Well, you guys know how I feel about going across
the pond or Brazil or anyplace else. Hate it with
a passion. Ugly American here raising my hand.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Complete leaf football. The Americans don't. Don't let anyone else
have We'll send the preseason over there, play preseason games.
Like again, is the EPL playing over here? They're actually
planning on it. Yes, when when in the next couple
of years.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Okay, in the next couple of years, when that happens,
I'll retract everything. Okay, until that happened. Did Brazil have
their first team what's whatever their first league is called?
What's it called?

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Brazilian Syria?

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Yeah? Were they up here this year playing the game?
Did I miss that somewhere?

Speaker 8 (23:13):
No?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
Okay, the Americans don't like soccer. What are you talking about?
We go what are you talking to? Text line? Well, okay,
the barometer. See now you're going to we we love
our listeners. We love you guys all on the text line.
But yes, there's like all it takes is two or

(23:33):
three people let's not overreact to two or three people.
We'll let the Afternoon Show over reacted two or three.
I say anything soccer, it always just.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Because there are people that care about soccer.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
And while the TV ratings show that in our country,
there's there's a reason that those games are all on
all over the place. Oh yeah, like there's a.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
Reason they're also I think they're just a quieter fan
base than your average baseball football fan.

Speaker 3 (23:59):
That's fair.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
That's fair in our realm, in our realm at this Yeah,
it's not if they go to coffee shops before a.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Bitch, it's non traditional foul fell uh nothing. I do
want to we want to. I want to touch on
this real quick's still three nothing. Detroit's leading Houston in
the bottom of the fourth game one of their best
of three wild card rounds series. And and when I
did the update at two o'clock or at noon today,
Andrews he chimed in rightfully, so yes, it should have

(24:28):
been us in Seattle, and and sure it probably should
have been. I think what it does show too, because
what's going on in this game. Schooble's unbelievable great pitcher
against the Houston astros who are just kind of okay,
they're good enough, like they won the division, give them credit,
but but not like the juggernaut astro astros teams seen
the last couple of years. And because of who's pitching,

(24:50):
because of who's pitching for Detroit, knowing that Seattle has
five guys that aren't quite to his level, probably but
they're damn close. Yeah close, Like they're damn close. And
I'm thinking, you're right, like this not only should be Seattle,
Detroit wasn't trying to win, and they did. They got in.
It was very major League like the taking away their

(25:10):
second best pitch. Yes, they weren't trying to win, says
Nathan Bier.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Also was pitching in the playoffs for the Dodgers now.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
But Seattle getting in, this is why they would have
had a great chance to advance. This is why. Yeah,
because pitching matters so much in the postseason. We'll talk
to Sheen about that coming up at one o'clock today.
I think what we're going to be reminded of starting
today with these playoff games beginning, and outside the fact
that many times we can't watch them because unlike me,

(25:40):
I got a TV, I do sports. I can watch it,
a lot of you guys can't. But what we're going
to be reminded of is how fantastic baseball playoffs are.
And it just feels like this massively empty, hollow feeling
every year when we're not able to enjoy with the
team that we root for here in Seattle, and knowing
full well there's really no excuse for that. You can't

(26:02):
make the playoffs every year and every sport. It doesn't
matter who you are, and I guess unless you're the
current Kansas City Chiefs, it just doesn't happen. But but
for for it to just be once in the last
almost decade and only once and I'm under this regime,
but just once since twenty twenty one or twenty twenty
one season, then twenty twenty two season, the only times

(26:24):
this team's been in it. That's unacceptable. By the way,
we did put a request and we're not getting aybody right,
nobody's going on the station.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
That's a new that's a negatory.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
No diplomament to make sure for you.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
A hard no.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
It was a hard no.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
It was hard.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
It wasn't a a well.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
I'd prefer not to be let on to be honest,
I do like that.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Because you know what Mariners PR guys just tell us,
tell us point you don't want to pay on your
stand it. It was the whole station just softy in me.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Uh it was. It's just not happening.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
It's not happening. Okay, okay, okay, they ever seeing uncomfortable?

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Yes, this this is.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Well. I just I get Look, we asked for a favor.
We asked, and I don't know if it's a favorite.
We asked, we have to.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
Get them in a professional request, and I received a
phone call and was told.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
No, in no uncertain terms. Yes, and that's fine. I mean,
we asked for guests. They don't. They don't have to
grant that request.

Speaker 3 (27:24):
I would exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
I would just counter with, it's too bad you cannot
speak to the fans through a conduit like our station,
which is sports radio for the local fans. It's too
bad you can't do that and maybe win some people back.
I would win some people. You need to win people back,

(27:46):
and I'll tell you how. You're not going to do
it by giving a sources say we're going to raise
the payroll to the newspaper guy, or if you do
do something doing it. I mean won't do any TV.
That's a guarantee, right because because there's no there's no
forum for it on root sports, Like there's no place
to put it. It's just and so like they don't

(28:07):
have a daily sports show or anything like. That's not
I'm not saying negative thing about them, it's just there's
no place to put it. And for us, like we're
not the flagship, so we don't have to be careful,
right and all you have to I would have loved
to just asked a few questions, but that's fine if
they that's what we did, put in a request. So
when we are critical of them, we always do it

(28:28):
with the thought that, hey, you know, come on and
answer questions. On the other side, we put a bent
and put a thing up on Instagram yesterday or real
as they say in the biz, Oh that has that
has like a zillion hits on.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
It, right, yes, like a zillion, so much so that
we got the Mollywop group chat is like, yeah, I
got like my little Nathan Bishops Like Instagram that has
a bunch of family selfies is exploding.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Were eighteen thousand on my phone right now? I just
looked at it and from the ranch yesterday, and I
think and it's unfortunate.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Because that's the voice of the fan.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
And the fans would love to hear from you, John Stanton.
The fans would love to hear from you, Jerry to
Poto in an unfiltered maybe in some ways not the
friendliest of settings, but you know, stand up, it's.

Speaker 3 (29:17):
Pro comfortable conversations.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Yeah, uncomfortable conversations. That's really good at that. Yeah, very
good at that. I don't know that was complimenting, right,
Pete Rose will get into a Joshian coming up top
of the hour. I do want to do that. I
want to kind of check it out. Yeah, And and
there's that's as complicated as it gets a story. We'll
touch in on that a little bit. Next we'll give

(29:39):
an update on what's going on in Houston. Don't forget
it's a cracking ticket Tuesday. I'm gonna go see if
my card key on my phone works. If I'm not
back and after the break, and our breaks are short,
they're like a minute, so don't go any more people.
If I'm not back then, Anders, congratulations, get a new job. Great,
thanks all right here on nine three point three KHFM.

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Speaker 1 (30:22):
Joe she In in about ten minutes time, excited to talk
to him. I mean, I'm I don't think I look
this morning. Let me double check. I don't think he
wrote anything on Pete Rose yet. I don't even know
what his thoughts were are going to be on that.
I can't, you know what I Sometimes I like to
predict what guys are going to say or think.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Well, Joe's like he's kind of an old school guy,
but he's also like new school nerd wise, so it's
like there's a lot of difference.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
There's a lot He's a conflicted man, is what you're saying. Yeah,
it's a conflicted man.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Open minded, Yeah, yeah, not just.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
What do you where do you stand on Pete Rose Anders?

Speaker 3 (30:53):
I don't know enough about it to be honest. I'm
pretty like I was born in nineteen eighty seven.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
So it was, well, you know, he's the all time
hits leader.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
I knew to know that, and I do know the
reason why he's not in the Hall of Fame is
because he had gambling allegation, gambled on games he was managing, right,
but he always gambled that his team would win.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Correct, So I think you should be in.

Speaker 6 (31:15):
It.

Speaker 3 (31:15):
It's hard for me to judge.

Speaker 6 (31:16):
I don't.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
I find it hard to believe that the all time
hits leader isn't in the Hall of Fame. I think
he's he's Chuck had some great thoughts. Chuck worked with him.
I guess it's Sports Byline or one of those one
of those old sports one of yeah, one of those
when whatever the one was in Vegas for Chuck used

(31:38):
to work the National Networks and he worked with Pete
a little bit there, and he told some great stories
about him today. And you know, and the thing with
Pete was he got busted for gambling and on baseball obviously,
but gambling and signing trading cards and all those things,
and it still was a huge part of his life.
He didn't really show a lot of remorse. I didn't think.

(31:58):
But Chuck had a line and I thought it was
really well said. I don't know if he didn't like
I don't think he can. This is Chuck's line. I
don't think he can tell the history of baseball without
having Pete Rose in it.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
And that's my parameter of you know, who should be
in the Hall of Fame. That's why I think Barry
Bond should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah, in the Bonds Sosa Maguire world that we lived
in a rod as well. I they got busted. Yeah,
a lot of other guys didn't. Right, it was kind
of the way of the world. Then does it make
it right? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:33):
Like David Ortiz was Supposedly.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
David Ortiz was juice. Robert Pooholtz was juice. And I'll
just if you google like Albert Pooholdt's minor leagues or whatever,
like early in his career, then look at him later
you tell me that that was just guy putting on
natural good weight. Some of us put on bad weight.
That was natural good weight. I called David Ortiz games

(32:57):
when because Minnesota's for a while he was. In fact,
it was him and Presents AJ Presents got him old,
Oh my got him old. But I filling in on
the Salt Lake team down in uh in Utah doing
play by play, I filled in a bunch of games.
I think I told a story with the guy, the
baseball guy, when he did TV, I did radio down there,
and then he switched off for hockey with me. But

(33:18):
I remember a young, not so big poppy, totally different
body type, completely different body type, completely different. So yeah,
I mean those guys got busted. I hated it. I
hated the fact that they were juiced and not everybody was.
But I would always just challenge people, did do we

(33:40):
know all these other guys were clean? Let me do.
Let me let me say the most sacrilegious, worst thing
you can say.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
I know where you're going.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
Do we know Edgar was clean?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Do we know Griffy was clean?

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Do we know?

Speaker 2 (33:50):
I think because he was in I'm gonna say this.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
With Griffy, you can juice up all you want, you
still have to find your way into a weight room
and work out to build those muscles up. That wasn't
part of Junior's repertoire. So I'll give you and I
and I don't And I like to think Edgar was
clean too, But we don't know. We don't know any
of those guys.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Well, I think the thing that bothers me is like
the juice era became. It came about right after the
strike and they needed to win fans back, and all
of a sudden you have the Sosad Maguire era right afterwards,
where they needed eyeballs on television and butts in seats. Yeah,
and they just let it happen and then go back
and say.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh, wait, no, that was wrong.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
I think baseball is to blame bab Well for sure.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, the players didn't do it to help baseball. They
did it to help themselves and you know, make more money.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
And baseball let it happen to help baseball.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
But with Pete, gambling on games is a different world, right,
that's just a different thing. But he didn't by all accounts, right,
he didn't do it during when it's during his playing days.
He didn't when he was managing as a don't don't
induct him as anything other than a player, yeah, because
I mean he was just seventeen time All Star when

(35:05):
that actually meant something like his numbers are just they're stupid,
like they're absolutely insane what he did in his career.
So I don't know. I'll see where Joshi and falls
in on that. Also, we'll get to we'll get to
a little bit more on the realignment in college football,
will do or college sports not football because there any
no football Gonzaga, but if you missed Gonzaga going to

(35:25):
the Pac twelve, we'll talk about that all that coming
up today on ninety three point three KJRFM. Now from
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(36:01):
well their Pro Bowl safety, so the fact they hung
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They're three and one now on the season. Jason Peters
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(36:23):
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and Abe Lucas along the way. Kracking loss last night
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(36:46):
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(37:09):
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fifty two wins now in her career. Baseball updates. There
are playoffs going on. But here's some good news. Detroit
leading Houston three nothing. I don't know if that makes
you feel better or worse as a Mariner fan. They

(37:30):
are in the bottom of the fifth inning. Some guy
named scoobl from Seattle University is pretty good on the.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Mound against We're two against.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
You route to against Houston, so.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
You usually route to be wrong, and now I'm going
to root against So go Detroit.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
Go Detroit, Ah, there you go. So that's what's going
on there. Joe Shean standing by.

Speaker 5 (37:51):
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Speaker 1 (38:16):
Our final visit of the season with Joe Shean. Let's
be convince him to come on some other time. But
first and foremost, Joe I, as a casual baseball fan,
have thoroughly enjoyed doing this again this season. Love your
passion for the game, love your knowledge of the game,
the opinions you have. We get great feedback from our

(38:38):
listeners on this segment every week as well. Hopefully some
of them are checking out the Joe Shean Newsletter at
Joshian dot com as well. But first and foremost, Man,
thank you so much for doing this again this year.
And big thanks to John Howie and Wildwood Spirits. But
thanks Joe.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
No, it's fun for me to come on and talk
ball with you mean and I appreciate all the readers
that have checked out the newsletter. But yet, amember Man,
for me, I'm not This isn't just in season for me,
I don't the year. I'm happy to come on in
the off season or where you guys want to want to.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Some ball that was well played, sir, that was really
well played. That is as a that's an O two
sweeper that no one can touch. Right there, my friend,
well done, well done. Uh yeah, the baseball the postseason
is when Joe really gets crazy, so make sure you
check it out Joehian dot com. We'll get in the
playoffs in a second. I mentioned this earlier. I have

(39:32):
zero idea and I looked. I don't think he wrote
anything yet, I have zero idea Where Joe Shian stands
on Pete Rose, the all time hits leader, dies yesterday
at the age of eighty three. Got really a bad
day in sports by the way he passed away at
the eighty three and then of course at the age
of fifty eight after a two year battle with brain cancer.
To Kenny Matumbaugh also died yesterday. It was not a

(39:52):
good day for for former greats and sports. But where
do you fall on the on the Pete Rose Hall
of Fame battle?

Speaker 7 (40:00):
Yeah, I stood up the day after the man dies.
It is necessarily. I want to get you deep into this.
But I he broke the rule. There's that's there's one
rule in baseball you can't break. Don't bet on baseball.
I don't care if it was on your team, I
don't care. You know how you did it. He bet
on baseball. Heroes walked past the sign in the clubhouse
more than anybody in baseball history. Sign it says don't

(40:21):
bet on baseball. Then he bet on baseball. So I
don't want to hear about what about I don't want
to hear about DraftKings. I don't want to hear about
you know, MLB sponsor just that the other thing. Now,
he broke the only rule. That's that's the end of it.
He he He earned the punishment that he accepted back
in eighty eight, and uh, that was the end of
it for me. It's the one will you can't break.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Where do you where do you fall in on on
all the guys from the steroid era?

Speaker 4 (40:45):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (40:46):
And I know it's different. I know it's different, And
let me just make sure that's that my as I
ask you that question that everyone knows. I know that
it's different because we've discussed that as well. But yeah,
where are you falling on those guys?

Speaker 7 (40:58):
I think of whatever play use steroids as kind of
a continuation of like we call it the steroid era,
but there's never been a steroid ara. Guys have been
trying to put things in their body to make themselves stronger,
fading back to the eighteen hundreds. So to me, that
was a continuation. We just decided to start caring about
it in the eighties and then when you know, so
home run records started getting broken and started caring about

(41:19):
it more. I will say that, you know, the way
I put it once, it fails a bunch of classes.
It fails history, it fails math, and it fails chemistry
because we only care about the guys that hit a
bunch of home runs the actual In reality, there's likely
some players who got to play in the major leagues
because they used substances. But you know, maybe they hit

(41:39):
twenty three career home runs, so we didn't care as much.
So they said, there's an argument that guys lost jobs
because of it. It's not because Barry Bonds or Mark
Vguire did It's because guys who've never heard of did it.
I just I don't like the way we covered it.
I don't like the way we did it after the fact.
I just think we did a really bad job covering
And frankly, you know, Nate Silver did some work on
this in a book that Prospected did in the two

(42:01):
thousands called Baseball Between the Numbers. It's actually very hard
to tease out. People just point, oh, look very Bonds,
but if you look at everybody who was actually caught,
you know, through the testing program, it's very hard to
identify an actual steroid effect. And when I've gone back
and looked at the numbers from the nineties and the
early two thousands. What I found it was more about

(42:23):
the double expansion. We went from twenty six to twenty
eight teams in nineteen ninety three. We went from I
mean I had had two more in nineteen ninety eight,
and the effect that had on the overall pitching raised
everybody's level of offense. Like, if you actually look at
the statistics ian, you'd have to believe that every hitter
in baseball started taking steroids in the winter of ninety

(42:43):
two to ninety three to get the effects that we saw.
So yeah, I've never seen steroids as the issue that
so many other people have. I don't doubt a lot
of players were using them, but it's hard to find
an effect in the statistics. And I don't believe you
just say, oh, this person was reported take X, he

(43:04):
hit this many more home runs than we expected, So
obviously that's the effect. That's not the way science works.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
You know what.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Well, speaking of science, the thing I find interesting with
this particular sport is how the technology and the I
don't know what the word is, apparatus, how the game,
you know, the things that we use to play the
game have changed. The ball changes. Hell, Joe didn't change
in season this year. Some people think, right, the ball,
the ball.

Speaker 7 (43:29):
I would love I would love to be able to
get to collect the data that we can on the
baseball today, the baseball's performance today, and know what it
was like in ninety three and nineteen ninety eight.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
Right.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
Certainly part of it the strike zone. You remember in
nineties baseball, we was talking about how small the strike
zone was. Now, we didn't have the data that we
have today and the precision that we have today. But
I can tell you that as a fan, the actual
called strike zone got so small at the end of
the nineteen nineties that they issued a directive to umpires
in two thousand and one telling them to hunt for strikes.

(44:01):
They directed the umpires to call more strikes because they
were calling fewer strikes. That's another thing that contributed to
these high offensive levels. So it was everything going on
that led to the LEDs to numbers going up. It
wasn't just everybody in ninety three got a shipment of
magic home run pills.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Wait did those exist? Magic home run pills? I like that,
I need to I.

Speaker 7 (44:22):
Took it Little League man. I got banned.

Speaker 6 (44:24):
It was tough.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Yeah, I bet it was. I bet it was. Now
we get older in life, we use different kinds of
magic pills. This dudes, all right, Joe shean joining us
right now? I don't. I'm fine, I'm good. There we
are palate and uncomfortable jazz.

Speaker 7 (44:45):
Then you were talking. You were talking, So I figured
I had a chance to take a little sip of
my ace te and now I have.

Speaker 8 (44:50):
I love them a living room.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Is it up your nose? Because I could laugh.

Speaker 7 (44:58):
I've never done a spin take on it.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Well, let me let me let me next time. Put
a little of that renditioned rye from wild Wood Spirits
in that ice. Ta tasting me better? Okay, Joe she
enjoying us?

Speaker 7 (45:08):
How he's gonna to us? Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Josh John Will He's a good dude. He's been around
for a while, you know, and he's known me for
a long time, so he has just to shake his head.
It is a Johan Joshian dot Com is the newsletter.
Before we get to the postseason, let's put up, let's
put a post mortem on our baseball team.

Speaker 7 (45:26):
Here.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
We're sitting here just in Anders and I were like
just shaking our heads, or watching this playoff game thinking
should have been could have been Seattle at Houston and
you're watching a guy like scooball dominate in the first game,
thinking that's what it takes, right, good pitching and Seattle's
got that against Houston, and how frustrating we are?

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (45:45):
How how would you summarize if you're just doing a
three line summary of the Seattle Mariners twenty twenty four season,
what would it say?

Speaker 7 (45:54):
They took a team that won was the games last
year and made it worse. And that's the difference between
last year's team and this year's team. Was a bad
winter that made the team aggressively worse, and they tried
to catch up at the end of the year. You know,
it was one of the best offensive teams in baseball
in September, but they had they had an AGEI win
team that they made worse. And I know I've been
picking on Jerry with us all year, but it's just,

(46:16):
you know what, he makes good moves that praise him,
and when he has a winter where he picks up
the mitches and Horriy Polanco, I criticize him. That to
me is the difference. They did not improve this offense
last year. Now, whether that means whether that's on Jerry,
whether that's on ownership not giving him a large enough
budget to go get better hitters, I think we can
divide the blame a certain way, but that that to

(46:37):
me was the issue. They had a good team last
year they made worse and that was different seeing them
that if you give them a better offense this year,
they probably make the playoffs. And some of it is
bad luck to I mean, they got ten innings out
of Santos and the Brash combined. Yeah, I mean that's
a big hole to the back of them. So it's
not just the bad news. I think that's probably worth
the way Brash alone, when you look at how dominant

(46:58):
he was at the end of last year. Losing him
in that pen hurt, especially since they thought they were
going to have him. So when he finally was ruled
out for the season, I want to say in April, like,
that's a little late to try to go out and
get uh, you know, get a relief house. So again,
some bad beats along the way, I'll grant that, But
to me, Jerry made the offense worse and that's why
I missed the playoffs.

Speaker 1 (47:20):
You're you're the Mitches that'll always live with us, the Mitches.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
At least one more year anyway.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Well, and they don't have a choice with those two.
They have a choice with Polanco, what do you do
with him?

Speaker 7 (47:31):
I probably hold on to him. It's not a big
salary for next year. I don't really see another obvious
choice to play second. I mean, I don't really think
I want to plug Dylan Moore in there every day.
They've got some infielders coming up from the sist like
maybe by the second half, are you ready to put
one of the young infielders out there? But I think
for now you hold out of Plonka.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
How the hell did Detroit make the playoffs? A? J.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
Hinch is a genius mess and overbid, but you know,
they traded clarity and he started using openers to get
around the fact that back of his rotation wasn't very good.
But he had a struggle. So he's got like Bugreski
and Tyler Holton. You know, we come in pitch the
first pitch the second and they turn the middle innings
over to Reese Olsen or Kenkomaida did a really good
job in that role for a while he just squeezed

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every out out of this out of this pitching staff.
And so they hit a little bit better. They played
a lot of better defense down the stretch. On they
turned over the lineup to a bunch of their kids.
Parker Meadow's Tray Sweeney, who they picked up at the deadline.
He'd gone from the Yankees to the Dodgers and now
he's the Tigers. He was a big upgrade on how
they are bias. Defensively, they just steal a lot of
things right pitching and defense wise, they really can't hit.

(48:36):
They actually have the second lowest OVP of any team
to make the playoffs. They had a three hundred OVP
this year, which is terrible, and only the sixty eight
Cardinals had a worse OVP for a playoff team. So
they can't hit. But as we're seeing today, if the
other team doesn't score, you're gonna win.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Joshian joy Us Josian dot Com. You got a whole
bunch of stuff up there on the playoffs. Let's just
handicap it a little bit, and you know again, we'll
we'll bring it back to us. Got our guys here,
I mean, we kind of just felt like get in
and you got a chance. Baseball is one of those
fun sports that you know, it's I kind of equate
pitching with goaltending and hockey. You know, you live back
there in New York. An elite goaltender for the Rangers

(49:13):
maybe can carry those guys to a playoff series or two,
maybe even to the finals. We've seen that happen in hockey.
Maybe an elite pitching staff feels like maybe you can
do the same, but you do have to hit at
some point. Yankees, Guardians, Astros Orioles, Royals, Tigers. How do
you handicap the Al West or the Ale playoff phrase?

Speaker 7 (49:30):
I don't even think it's pitching in I think it's
bullpens because random relievers go off in October the way
that grandom goldies do in April, May, June, July, and
August when they hold the Stanley Cup playoffs. You think
about last year Josh Bores for the Rangers, along with
Jose Laclerk. These guys weren't very good last year. They
pitched well the Braves in twenty twenty one, Will Smith,

(49:51):
Tyler Matsek, seeing who the right hander was Luke Jackson,
I think completely not very good dominated the National in nineteen,
the Red Sox in eighteen. These teams that didn't have
very strong bullpens, even his late as September having random
guys just pitched really well for twenty innings, and that
to me, maybe more so the pitchings for leievers that

(50:13):
will show up now going into this winter. There are
a couple of elite bullpens out the Guardians five guys
with an era en er two that's never been done before.
The Padres probably don't have a bad reliever on their staff.
They remember they made those trades at the deadline for Adam,
Adam Scott and Hoeing. Those guys have been great for them.

(50:33):
So to me, it's the relievers that give you a
punch of here. It's the random believers in the AL.
You know, I said the Astros at the start of
the year. I think they're going to have to score
a run. I don't need to get too technical, but
they're gonna have to score a run to advance. Right now,
I think the best team in the AL is probably
the Orioles. I have real questions about their bullpen, but
they can hit. In a year where there's not a
lot of good offenses out there. The Orioles come into

(50:55):
this as a really really good offense. They can get
power up and down the lineup VP candidate in a
normal year in Gunner Henderson. So I think right now,
I'd probably go with the Oriols of the AL.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
What about the National League? I mean, I know that
if you're a network, you're praying to God that the Dodgers,
and they got some guys pretty good on their roster
that hits a lot, runs a lot, and somebody's going
to pitch again. But the Dodgers, Phillies, Brewers, Padres, Braves, Mets.

Speaker 7 (51:19):
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're even the general
baseball fan, somebody wants the game to succeed Yankees Dodgers,
not because it's Yankees Dodgers, but because it's Judjo Tony. Yeah,
Remey's first trip to the playoffs. He was trapped in
Anaheim all those years. So I mean, I have a
longer ego he's over he plays, the better it is
for anybody who loves baseball. The Dodgers, though till last

(51:40):
year they started pitching collapse in the playoffs. They went
out and got Yamamoto and glassnow and right now, they're bullpit.
They'ressuming their rotation, which is just as scary as he
did last year. Because Yamamoto hasn't gone into the sixth
innings since June. Glass now is out for the year,
Walker Buhler hasn't pitched. Well, you know, I think that
the Padres get through. That's the four or five series

(52:01):
they would play the Dodgers. The Padres could take the
Dodgers out again.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
Right now.

Speaker 7 (52:04):
To me, the Padres are the best team in the
National League. I mentioned the bullpen. They got healthy throughout
the year, so now they have Joe Muskrove and you
Darbish back as well. You look at that lineup up
and down. It's not great, but there aren't a lot
of holes in it. Like even Kyle Higashioka, who was
the Yankees backup catcher last year, has hit for good
power for the Padres. That's coming over. Santra Bogo is
actually probably the weak spot, which is a problem since

(52:26):
that contract runs until like twenty sixty three. But I mean,
when that's your week's spot, you're okay. So I think
the Padres right now, even more so than the Phillies,
are the dangerous team of the National League.

Speaker 1 (52:35):
I think I'm going to go back to Atani for
a second, because we live in a city that for
almost the entire entirety of his career, we were told
that by the Buster Onies and others of the world. Boy,
just it'd be just really good for baseball if Felix
Hernandez was pitching for the Yankees or the Mets or somebody.
He used to drive us nuts and I always kind

(52:57):
of thought, you know, what's screw you and and all that.
But Otani and my my point is this, superstars are
needed in sports at times, and I'm with you. I
think the Dodgers and Otani getting to at least the
NLCS World Series get to the World I think it
would be massive for this sport. Massive Joe, And plus

(53:19):
I want to see what he does. I mean, we've
seen in the World Baseball Classic, but what does this
guy do under the lights in October? Give me that, please,
I'm signing up for that all day.

Speaker 7 (53:29):
Let's be careful about that too, because again it's now
forty scattered at that so many course of October where
the pitching is so much better, we can we can
ruin guys expecting them to automatically replace their regular season
numbers in one postseason. But yeah, Well, the thing, the
problem I always had with the Felix argument was the
issue isn't trade him to the Yankees or he sign
with the Yankees so he can show up in the postseason.

(53:50):
It's the Mariners should be better so that he can
show up in the Yeah, the same thing would be Angels.
I mean, it's all of these plays like we're seeing
to the entire school today, pitch because not because the
time I just heard of them at the deadline, but
because the Tigers played well enough to get to the playoffs.
It's an interesting thing this year, most of the best players,
most of the superstars in the game did make the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (54:09):
This year.

Speaker 7 (54:10):
We don't have an Otani trapped in Anaheim. Like the
stars are here to shine, and we're gonna see some
of them this week, and then some of them started
this weekend. So I think it's a real opportunity for
baseball to get a little bit of attention. And it's
weird thinking about baseball as the underdog and all that,
but I mean that's the case right now. You know,
the NFL runs the world and baseball kind of does.
Even in the postseason does still take a back seat.

(54:30):
So hopefully we can get a postseason with great games
and with these stars showing out to attract some attention,
because right now, the Otani bets Judge Soto Henderson with
I mean, we are really blessed right now with this
incredible generation of young or you know, in prime stars.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
I know what you're saying with with you know, the Otani,
if he you know, if he does get forty at
bats in the postseason and it's not like the at
bats we would expect or we see during one hundred
and sixty two games, I get that. I guess in
my old man's eyes, I envisioned the days of like
Reggie Jackson coming through. You know, like guys, you know,
whether it be anybody from name the Big Red Machine,

(55:10):
any guy from those teams in the seventies, you know,
the superstars that step up, you know, the Derek Jeters
of the world, those types of guys Hall of famers
playing Hall of Fame level baseball in the postseason. But
if nothing else, it's just the star power, more eyeballs
on it, and the way you go and give this
give the sport a little bit of a boost. It's
not America's pastime. The NFL probably is, but there's still

(55:31):
such a love for it out there because still so
many people grew up playing it. Just give me a time,
and I, Joe, I've never Tony thing's amazing. Like we
had each ro here. They both speak about the same
amount of English, which is a lot more than they
let on, but you know, using translators, and you know,
a non English speaking primary English speaking player. To have
him captivate this, this sport, this country, this the fans

(55:53):
here is really remarkable what he's been able to do.

Speaker 7 (55:56):
It's something like I said, we're probably getting to see
he's getting to like the first meaningful games of his career.
And if you look at what he didn't leverage spots
this I think we talked about this last week, like
he's come up in all these big spots in September
that he never had the chance to play it before
he went and went off. And you mentioned the English thing.
If you watch the celebrations, watch him communicating his teammates,
but he in each wield probably had this too, where

(56:18):
you know, the English is better than they use when
talking to the press. But I would be the same
way too, Like I can fake French, but if you
asked me to do an interview with Lamone, I'm going
to ask for a translator. I'm going to ask for
the interview to be done in English. So I understand
these guys kind of shielding a little bit their communication
skills in the new language because you don't want to

(56:38):
be misinterpreted. So you knew have enough English that you
can talk to your your teammates and be excited to
celebrate with them. But when a microphone is there, absolutely
give me the translator.

Speaker 1 (56:47):
Yeah. And the fact that they still have the cachet
and that the people do it's without speaking the language
is pretty remarkable. On the way, final thing for you,
Oakland Athletics are no more. I grew up in Ace
and that was my first team before the Mariners came in.
Gene Tennis, my first baseball hero. You know, Sal Bando,
Catfish Hunter, Vida Blue, Reggie, Reggie, Reggie, Joe, Rudy, Bert

(57:12):
kampen Air, It's the whole nine yards. I'm sad man
and they had the obviously great team since then as well.
I'm bummed. I just I hate seeing the Athletics no
longer be Oakland Joe, I don't know about you.

Speaker 7 (57:25):
Well, in less than sixty years there they had the
iconic the teams you're talking about, the Swinging A's, the
Dick Williams A's, they had the Tony LaRussa Bash Brother era,
and then they had the moneyball ags like they had
three distinct distinct eras where they were like one of
the big franchises in the game. The Aids had the
highest payroll in baseball around nineteen ninety nineteen ninety one.

(57:49):
It didn't have to be this way. I think the
thing that I want to communicate here is this is
entirely about one man trying to hold onto revenue sharing.
It's not about the market won't support it. It's not
about we can't get a ballpark, because they can put
a ballpark on that same property and it would like
the Mets did with City Field. You literally just build
the ballpark in the parking lot. It's a great location,
it's got a bark station there, got freeways. Everybody can

(58:11):
get to it. But they want, you know, the ballpark
village that Saint Louis has, or let as or the
dream that all these owners have now of all the
additional development. But The reason they're doing this now is
because there's a clause essentially the a's get revenue sharing
now local revenue sharing, and if they didn't have a
ballpark deal, they would lose that. So that's the entire

(58:31):
reason this is happening. It's because John Fisher wants to
hold on to his corporate welfare so that he doesn't
have to actually do the things you'd have to do
to make money with your baseball team. He can continue
to run the team on the cheap and make a profit,
even though as he's going to the fortieth largest media
market in baseball MLB enabled this, John Fisher is a

(58:52):
nefo baby who's just swooping up the money without actually
doing any works.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
It's brutal. And the fact that and I guess I
know why fellow owners allow him to do that, because
they all want to have the same freedoms. And what
I mean, that's we've seen that before. It's to me
what's inherent, and this is probably the bigger problem is
that you know, when when the Sacrament of Kings almost
moved to Seattle to replace the Sonics, and and whether

(59:18):
we like it or not, David Stern stepped in and
said no, we're gonna protect the market. We're gonna protect
the Kings, and and you know part of what was
screw you Seattle, but that. But they had a commissioner
that did that. You know, Stern was that commissioner. Gary
Bettman's that commissioner. People hate Goodell, but he's got some
juice too. Baseball doesn't have a commissioner that can stand
and do it. It's just unfortunate. I just I'm I

(59:38):
guess I all lost the piece of my childhood. And
I think that's what I'm most bummed about.

Speaker 7 (59:41):
Joe is with a lot of people did and it's
sad it didn't have to be this way. And I'm
standing on this. I don't think this is over. I
think this. I've said that the are gonna end up
playing games in Oakland again because I don't think the
Sacramento plan is going to work. I think once players
actually start having to play major league games, there major
league players who were used to facilities and just being

(01:00:02):
in a major league park, I think that's gonna be
a problem. I think the heat's going to be a problem.
And then I don't think they're gonna get the ballpark
built in last things. No, So no, I don't think
any of this is gonna end up work out and
they're gonna end up that can.

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
Hopeen tell people about the website and the newsletter. Baseball fans.
The season is just getting underway with the playoffs, and
Joe's got you covered. What you got there, Joe, Yeah,
it's covering the playoffs.

Speaker 7 (01:00:22):
It's what it is now. Funny, there's a lot of
baseball news yesterday that I'll eventually get to, the car Bells,
the Giants, Pete Rose, But right now it's just about
doubling down on playoff content and talking about the twelve
teams that are in front of us this week and
throughout the month, to cover in the games and the
issues that come up, and a lot of the strategy.
One of the nice things about covering the playoffs is
everybody's watching the same game. I can't drill down on
em Brace Philly's game in June because it's a fairly

(01:00:45):
small part of their readership is watching that game. But
in October we're all watching the same game, so you
know there's some interesting play or decision or whatever have you.
And in one of these games I can write really
deep me on it. So it's a different type of
writing than I do throughout the year, and I enjoy
it a lot. Want to get those in depth breakdowns
of this pitching decision or that fielding play or whatever
have you. News letter a great place to do it,

(01:01:07):
cover it all months, and I'm looking forward to it.
And again, Ian, let me thank you. You guys have
been great all year about promoting the newsletter. I love
coming on getting to talk to you and Andres and Jessman,
and it's been a lot of fun for me and
I just I really appreciate your support. Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Remember I told you guys, I wasn't really sure where
Joehian would go with Pete Rose.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
I wasn't either, and now we know he was very declarative.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
Mm hmm. We aren't going to get Joe Shian through
October Day the two oh six. Yeah, we we might.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
Be able keep them on the hotline.

Speaker 4 (01:02:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I think I have.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Some big stories that come out of the postseason and yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Yeah with them, I think with Joe we can. If
we need to get him on, we can. He's fun.

Speaker 4 (01:02:56):
He really truly enjoys it too. He means that I
know he's said it what he means it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:01):
We had a lot of fun with him this year.
The Pete Rose thing for me is I would probably
I would probably just go down the different road. I
would go down the road of I think for the
what we know, what we believe we know is that
he bet when he was a manager, and so Joe

(01:03:23):
and a lot of others can't separate it. I can
kind of separate it. I don't think it affected what
he was doing in terms of hitting the baseball, but
I also understand the thought, and this is, you know,
the Joe Shean's of the world. I don't want to
speak for like a Larry Stone or somebody like that,
but I think some of the old school people, journalists
and others come to this port for a while they
probably feel the same way. There's a that that integrity

(01:03:46):
factor comes into play with God. There's so many bad
people in all Hall of Fames, right and you know,
so I think all it's just it's a very complicated thing.
I think the saddest thing is is that for him
is it he will not to go in while he's
alive if he ever does it all and right now
probably doesn't look like he'll ever go in. So that's

(01:04:07):
that's a little bit sad. Didn't really ever show a
lot of remorse. Probably could have done a better job
on his end. The stubbornness and part of what made
him Charlie Hussel and everything else was that the way
he kind of carried himself and did those things.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
He was more apologetic about it.

Speaker 4 (01:04:23):
Maybe I know, but that was just what like you
were just saying, that just wasn't him him, and so
I almost wouldn't want him to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:32):
He was very defined, very defensive, and that kind of
turns me off to him a little bit. Well, and
I and listen, I understand that, and I also understand,
to be honest with you, that that if sometimes you've
got to ask for forgiveness, you know the old joke,
you know, asked for permission, don't ask for forgiveness, not permission.
That's kind of what you need to do sometimes. Forgiveness

(01:04:53):
it's really hard. I've always found it really hard in
any in any walk of life, when somebody says I'm sorry, okay,
Well what do you say to that? It's hard to
kind of come back and be negative or screw you and.

Speaker 3 (01:05:03):
What they're genuinely asking, if.

Speaker 1 (01:05:05):
They're genuinely asking for it, right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:07):
I don't think it would have come off as genuine
as not with him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
There was never really any contrition or anything like that.
He was just kind of he was very defiant in
that regard. And you know, the the no gambling thing,
that sign is in clubhouses, it's in for all sports,
it's up there as well. You know, we've seen the NFL.
The interesting with the NFL is like they've busted guys
and you know, Calvin Ridley, right was out for a

(01:05:33):
whole year, but not banned for life. Right, not banned
for life.

Speaker 3 (01:05:36):
But I will say, like, what is there's been guys
busted for peds too in the NFL. What's a stricter punishment.
It's usually the big gambling.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
Yeah, I think the difference probably would be the PD
use and PD use performance and dancing, drug use and gambling.
They're so different in the sense that one is one
is really black and white, and that would be the
gambling part. The PD use. I mean, hell, I don't

(01:06:05):
has there ever been a player that said, man, I
I yep, I did it. I took it and I
juiced up and away I went. Well, it's always I
had no idea when when in my body it was
just a supplement and no, no, you know, and all
that kind of stuff, and then from an injury and
how do you know? Like right, like Cliff April when
he was on Station Man, we talked about that. They
talked about a lot, and Cliff had a great point
was I didn't put anything in my body cold medicine included,

(01:06:29):
even if it was okayed by the doctors. I wasn't
gonna risk it because you lose too much money, you know.
And Cliffs, Cliff's comment always was we're in the business
of making money, not giving it back to the league.
Yet I get it back to the league.

Speaker 4 (01:06:43):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
And and Cliff was right, like, you don't want to
give it back. But you can chime in on Pete
Rose four nine four or five and that is the
tulemore new Textlan whence game time, I'll get your thoughts
on that, you know, should he be in or should
he not? As well as the Seahawks last night, I
still came away really encouraged. I I think a lot
of people did. Not everybody, but I think a lot
of people did as well. Just the encouraged of encouraged

(01:07:05):
by what they looked like and how they played. All right,
Cougar's did not. Boy, it was a bad weekend for football.
Huskis lose on Friday, Cougars lose on Saturday, and the
Seahawks lose on Monday. So no matter what team you
root for in this area, I mean, unless you're the
lone Duck fans sitting around here, you probably had a
team lose this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:07:26):
Yeah, we'll all done with one weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:07:29):
Well, we'll check in with Alex and an MK coming
up at two o'clock. Are were we out with the
cracking ticket Tuesday?

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
We got two pairs of tickets given away, so we
got one more coming next hour.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
Is there any shortage of phone calls? When that? My god?

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Okay, when you so, we will do it one more time.
Sometime in the two o'clock hour. You'll hear the sounder
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They play tomorrow final preseason home game, final preseason game.
But it's at home tomorrow climbing and played Aerna and
then a week from today, hell, right now, right now,
a week from today, right now today, Oh, why goodness,
I won thirty five or so. That'll be really right now.
They'll be dropping the park in the first game of
the season. We'll look at how that lineup could look next.

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Is it tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (01:09:12):
Yes, full pregame. It's on the network, so if you
are one of our affiliates, you'll hear it on the
Cracking Audio Network.

Speaker 1 (01:09:16):
We will have a free, full pregame on television as well.
On Kong. Everyone's kind of going through their final little
rundown dress rehearsal because one week from today opening this
is weird opening day, truly opening day afternoon Get Saint
Louis one thirty face off will already be well underway
with the first period. We're at home, right, We're at home, Yeah, yeah,

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we are here. In fact, Ben and I are going
to be doing a show from the concourse National TV,
so I'm not doing anything for that sidle thing. So
Mikey and I will do something around noon or twelve
thirty that day before the network stuff starts.

Speaker 3 (01:09:54):
We don't have a show, We.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Don't have a show. No days off for some of us.
But you guys, no, I'm still going in the game, man.
We'll be there for that. The uh, the lineups are
getting closer. They set a bunch of guys down to
They all young guys and guys you would you would
expect that they had lines today at practice, and I
find this. Hockey fans will find this interesting. I know

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if you're not a diehard, you don't. But the line
combinations are interesting. Of note, McCann Vaneer's every vianears centering
the line with mccannon, Beverly Stevenson centering the line with
Schwartz and Burakowsky, your third line, Shane Wright centering a
line with Ellie Tolvinen and Oliver york strand like that,

(01:10:39):
like that, And what would truly be a fourth line,
Yanni Gord's a fourth line center right now, it appears,
and his wingers would include any combination of John Hayden,
Ryan Winterton, who's still here in Brandon Tanne. Now they
they probably want to move somebody. The people that you

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would probably be most likely to move, I'm guessing would
be tanav and Gorg.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
I don't think you'd want to move Yanni. I think you,
But I mean and for people like the tan of thing,
and it's just a contract deal. Contracts really expensive for
a guy that's a fourth liner and a penalty killer, right,
But boy, I like those top three lines.

Speaker 3 (01:11:23):
Oh yeah, I like the combos too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
You have two to one, you have two to one
A lines, Veneers and Stevens concentering those two lines are
both one A lines. Yeah, and that third line. Shane
has been great during the preseason.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
He's been really looked, really good.

Speaker 4 (01:11:37):
We have some novice listeners, So when you're explaining the
lines and the combinations, uh, you know, how would.

Speaker 1 (01:11:44):
You five players on the ice, three forwards, two defense
There you go, so your lines would be Veneers everly
and what you're looking at, Yeah, right, left, right, mccambaneers
every yep, and there's a center for each line. Wingers
are pretty interchangeable. Yeah, and you can play on the
off wing if you're not right hand shot. But at
Veneer's Stevenson, Shane right Yanny gor your center iceman and
then the wingers we just mentioned. Then the other thing

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is you have two defensemen on the balloon line looking
and their lined up, they're the two defensemen. How are
they paired up? Well, Adam Larson and Vince Done have
been paired up forever in a day last three year,
and we thought maybe they would break those up when
we had the conversation.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18):
With Dan Biosma.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Right, they're still together, dun Larsen together now, none of
least none of yeah, none of this has looked this
way during the preseason, so people go, oh my god,
they've only won one preseason game. Don't just don't worry,
But dun Larson is still together today at practice. According
to Mike Benton, Alexiak and Brandon montour I like that
letter too. I think Alexiak needs to get something going.

(01:12:40):
And oh have you seen him energy? Yeah, I've been
to a couple of.

Speaker 3 (01:12:45):
Games, just a couple of.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
But yeah, Montour just a different element, moves the puck well,
plays hard. Alexiak just had a kind of a step
back here last year. Ryker Evans and Will Borgan or
your third that's truly a third pairing. Yeah, Like they
haven't really had a third pairing per se based on minutes,
I guess they have, but that's a true third pairing.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
And then and when you say true third pairing, and
like similar to the true fourth line, right, traditionally.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
You won't won't get as many minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:13:16):
Right, Traditionally you want your top two maybe three lines
on the forwards to kind of get more more minutes.
And then like the fourth line kind of comes in.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
And then when when you get to special teams with
power play and penalty kill it more than likely'm on
tours your number one d on the power play number
two would be Vince Dunn and Riker might get a
little bit of power play time along the way as well.
But and then Mahura and Flurry. So right now you've
got to make probably two cuts. Yeah, kill Flurry probably

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goes down, and.

Speaker 3 (01:13:49):
One of John Hayden and Winterton.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I think. I think it's either trade, make a trade,
or Winterton goes down. Hayden's on a one way contract. Okay,
so he's most likely to anything, I think, So I
don't think. I mean, unless they cut cut him. Was
it one way deal? That's you're paying for him, they're
not cut him. Okay, Yeah he's gonna I don't know
if you're gonna pay him Center and fifty thousand dollars
to play down in Coachella. Winterton, Yeah, he ain't making

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I think is still running towards the Heisman. We'll talk
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forty two year old future Hall of Fame offensive lineman
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I wonder who's been cut more off the practice squad,
And I don't joke about this, I just kind of
feel bummed, like these guys are here and gone. Last
couple of years, it was Esop Winston Junior. Now it's MacTel.
You're here, you're gone. You're here, You're gone. Well, he'll
be back next week. Thanks for coming.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
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Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
I know that's what actually kind of what it is
along the way, Well, Brett McMurphy, you were right all along.
Eight days ago, sat Gonzaga is joining the PAC twelve.
A lot of denials, a lot of counter reports. Today
it became official from where both Gonzaga and the Pac twelve.
They're in to the Pac twelve conference for everything except
for football, obviously, because they don't have a football program.

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Basketball team, by the way, has reached the NCAA tournament
for twenty five straight years. All but two of the
new Pac twelve were in the top forty four of
Ken Palm last Year's say it's gonna be a basketball conference.
The only two that weren't Fresno State in Oregon State.
Everyone else was in the top forty four of Ken
Palm last year. That's a good conference. I know it's

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football where we live. In what have you. But yeah,
I'm glad they're in it. Let's see, Kraken made some
moves today sitting down a bunch of number of young guys.
I didn't mention this earlier when we're going through all
the lines. Ty carciamis practice today maintenance day, dealing with
something little. But he wasn't out there. So that's another body, right,
he's on this team. He ain't going anywhere. Yeah, so

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Edmunds hows right against him.

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Probably see some players on both sides going and you
know what, they still have to figure out who's gonna
get the net opening day. Neither guys look good in
the preseason. The court in Grubauer, So I think Gruby
gets to start tomorrow, chance to see if he can
take control get the net first afternoon against Saint Louis,
their first game of the year regular season one week
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Speaker 1 (01:18:48):
All right, here we go. It is time for our
coup Round Table. We are joined by the two legends
MKA and Krysto Bruce. Alex Brink are with us on
a pretty historic day for the PAC twelve conference. As
we mentioned early a couple times in the show, the
Gonzaga Bulldogs. Brett McMurphy was right from Action Network, I
think is where he work what eight days ago said, Yeah,

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Gonzaga is joining the FACT twelve, and then every other
college insider so to speak, No, that's not true. Gonzaga
is an ad. No, that's not true. Well, Alex Brink,
it is true. When it's also done. I think it's
a great thing. I'll get into that a little bit
I talked about on the show, but I'm gonna get
your reactions. Obviously no football related, but as they build
this conference back up, that's a hell of a basketball

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conference we're looking at right now with San Diego State
and Gonzaga Colorado State, Boise State. I mean, that's a
hell of a conference, Alex.

Speaker 8 (01:19:38):
Yeah, it really is. And you know, it definitely opens
the door to some other universities that have great basketball
programs that want to be a part of something special.
And look, yes it's not football, but you know, basketball
is a very close second when it comes to the
importance for these athletic departments. The money in the NCAA
tournament units is very real, right, and if you have

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those cons tournament teams than one they're getting money in
this new format, but also the you know, the other
the other programs in the league are getting paid, and
I think that really matters. And more importantly, TV rights
go up because Gonzaga joins, and so look, I think
it's a net net a really good thing. More importantly,

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I just I just love the way Washington State, Oregon
State and then Teresa gold Gould in the leftover kind
of PAC twelve leadership have decided to dig their heels
in and fight. And it's funny because the rhetoric on
the outside is like, why why is the PAC twelve
fighting this? Why are they why are they raiding the
Mountain West? Why are they getting Gonzaga, and it's like,
hold on, like this is all a reaction to ten

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schools that blew up a one hundred year old conference,
and so you know, I think this is fantastic. I
think it's the start of something. This is again part
of I think what she described as a phase two moves.
So I would expect some more announcements coming over the
next few weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:20:56):
Yeah, mkay, can you fly into Spokane watch some hoops games?

Speaker 9 (01:20:59):
I think might feel a little bit easier to fly
in this book camp. But I mean it's exciting. I
mean we even talked about what you were saying, like
even Oregon State having just such a powerhouse national contender
for baseball, having all these different things that we need
to actually weave in, and Alex, you're right, I think
it's going to be a lot more attention and some
great basketball for people to see.

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
All right, let's get into football, fellas Koog's and Boise
State Ashton gent he might have just ran for another
first down. Must just get general, just get general thoughts
on the game, as Alex, I'll start with you.

Speaker 8 (01:21:35):
Yeah, it was pretty poor. Oh yeah, I don't really
have a lot great to say about it. I think,
you know, talking to Jake Diggrett after the game, I
think you know, he was pretty disappointed. Also, you know,
there were moments and the reality is, you know, you're
basically down seven points, you know, going into the fourth
quarter or early in the fourth quarter, and then it

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certainly got away from you. But you also never really
gave yourself a chance because the offense could not get
on track for most of the game. Obviously defense had
some egregious tackling issues. I actually thought the plan was
pretty good. They had guys in place, uh you know,
and had had moments to take advantage, and they just
couldn't you know, they couldn't capitalize, and so you know,

(01:22:18):
again it was it was hard to watch at times.
Hopefully it's an opportunity for this team to learn heading
into the bye we can get better, mkay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:26):
We've had We've been doing this for a few years.
I've never heard Alex like that's that's just critical. That's
critical by him, like and but let me just get
your general thoughts in a couple specific I want to
get with both you guys on offensive defense.

Speaker 9 (01:22:38):
Let me just say that there's three just really quick
points I'll say when I I flew into Boise. I
don't know if I mentioned that I flew in there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:45):
Do you have a pilot's license?

Speaker 9 (01:22:46):
Yeah, yeah, We'll talk about that later. But anyways, I
will say one thing was it was probably one of
the most exciting environments I've ever been in in a game.
And not just asked them up, but there was not
an empty seat in the crowd, the turf environment, there
was not one like downtime throughout the whole game. They

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had lights flashing, So talking about like tip your hat
to Boise. That was such a great environment that they
came out and they showed up for their team. It
was crazy. But I will say this, like offensively, obviously
we saw what happened there, but he's still you know,
John Mattier is still putting up over three hundred yards right,
He's still he was still doing having some big plays. Defensively,
I'm gonna tell you guys right now, Ashton Genty might

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be one of the best running backs I've seen in
real life. So like people are like, oh my gosh,
you know, we look so bad on defense. This was
a man amongst boys. Like he was playing like Marshawn
Lynch out there when you saw those big plays when
he had that beast Quake run, when Marshawn had it,
that was just the same thing that Genty did when
in there there was three four Washington State players hitting
him every single play, and he was just bouncing and
mushing people off of him. So when I tell you

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he's gonna do this all year long, it wasn't just
that we played bad tackling. He's just that good. And
I do want to least say that.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Yeah, listen, man, sometimes you got to tip your cap
to the other guys, right like in sometimes. And first
of all, just the environment. And you know, man, Alex,
you've been doing this for a few years calling games
with with Chaz and now with Chris. It's it's so
you've been to all the stadiums in the former conference,
right like you've been to some places. You've been to Wisconsin.
I think it's awesome. This is also why college football

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and this whole just stupidity of the two big conferences
trying to kind of ex everybody else out. I'm gonna guess, Alex,
you're not getting that environment at Vanderbilt or you know,
South Carolina or wherever else, right, I mean, I do
tip my cap to Boise Man football means something to them,
and beating us, obviously Alex means something to them as well.
I think secondary ticket prices were the eight hundred dollars range.

Speaker 8 (01:24:42):
Yeah, I mean it was it was all of that
and more. I mean it was fantastic big time college football,
you know what I mean. It was that place was packed,
it was loud, that was you know, again, two good
football teams. And I think, you know, part of my disappointment,
in all honesty is was that, right is like the
moment was really big, and I felt like, you know,
I felt like the coops just weren't quite ready for it.

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And and sometimes that happens. They playing on the roads
really hard, and when you play on the road against
a good team that's really physical, I mean like those
three things kind of kind of rear rear their ugly
head and wear you down if you don't play your
best football. And that's what I had said going into it,
you know, when we went on the broadcast, I said, look,
you know, we're gonna have to play our best football
game to come out of Boise with a win. And

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obviously it wasn't that. And I think, you know, when
you get to the end of the end you see
the final score and just kind of some of the
way it played out, because really what it is, I
think we are better. I think we are physically a
better team. I don't think anybody on our team is
better than Nashton Gent, but I think on the rest
of it, I think the rest of it, you know,
Washington State, you know, is better and they didn't play

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it and that's that was hard to watch it from
my standpoint.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
Well but better, But can we go better for a second,
because the biggest thing coming out is the tackling, Like
and you said it like I think it's like people
will raise their eyebrow when Alex says that. I mean,
how many times was there penetration? Did guys get their
hands on him? Contact? Yeah, and this dude just was
he was better than anybody out there. But how can

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you fix the tackling or can you fix it? I
think Dicker said afterwards, Man, this point in the season,
it's hard to do.

Speaker 9 (01:26:16):
I think you also got to look at this. To
Ian is like he's done that to every team he's
played against. So it's like, I hate a consolation price.
I'll be the first one to tell you, I hate
a consolation price. But he was getting hit by very
good linebackers. Thornton hit him so hard so many times,
tried to wrap him up and could not hold on
to him. He was that good. He's hurdling players, hurdling
doing Heisman mid air. Like it was crazy. It was crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:26:40):
I think, I think I think Ian for me, I'm
let again and I say these things because I think
I agree on the defensive side, right where like it
was a good plan. They were hitting him in the
backfield consistently. They had two or three guys like and
he was he was just better than everybody else. So
like I'll table that. Like, going into the game, I
kind of felt like Ashton gent you would probably get
you know, three touchdown. I didn't think he'd have four

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and two seventy or whatever. But but you know, there
was a moment where that was probably gonna happen. I
felt like the offense would play better, right and and
and they didn't. And that was I think that was
the hard pill to swallow because I again, there were
moments there where like you saw Chris Hudson and Kyle
Williams out in space and it was like, oh, these guys,
these guys can do whatever they.

Speaker 6 (01:27:22):
Want, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:27:23):
And then, uh, you know you were having a hard
time or not getting the ball to them in the
situations that you needed to until it was too late almost,
And I think again that was some of the Boise
States defense is you know, physical and they attack, but
you know that should lead to open zones. And so
I think I'm probably where a lot of this comes
from for me is probably more so on the offensive
side production wise than anything else.

Speaker 9 (01:27:45):
Well, yeah, they came in hot, like they lived that
defensive line and their blitz package hadn't a tear on
the ropes like when you see it from the field view,
they were coming in hot. He had some times where
he had to get out of there and he couldn't
run like he normally could either they were crawing in
that pocket.

Speaker 1 (01:28:00):
Well just let me, let me, let me, let me
put a wrap on the defense and come back to
the offense in a second. Mkay. We just go back
to that though, because you know, I think in football
there is a tryhard element to it, but then there's
also a technique element to it, right, And when you
watch the poor tackling. What are you seeing besides just
Gent's good. I mean, that's good. That's you know, water's wet,
sun's hot. Gent, he's good. Whatever. If we know he's

(01:28:22):
I mean he is. And I'll just go back like
the Husky Hawks will come on and later on our
show today on our station at four o'clock today, and
I'll tell you that. You know, oh, there's no way
that Washington should have lost to Rutgers and and and
Washington State. And I know that's kind of what Alex
is saying. We shouldn't have lost that team. We're probably better,
but sometimes there's a guy on the team that's better
for us. I think it was Materier like the Apple Cup,
but Tier is the best player on the field, like
like just right, like he won that game, and in

(01:28:44):
this case, Gent won the game. But mka, what I mean,
let's just go back to the tackling. Like, I don't
know where we're at in football these days, Alex, your
training guys too. I'll come back to you in a second.
But like, no one takes guys to the ground in
practice anymore. There's so many safety things. Is that a
byproduct of what.

Speaker 9 (01:29:00):
You just saw? No, I honestly think that that's the
best running back Washington State scene in years. There's that
aspect of it. But remember after his big run in
that first quarter, right, he had that big run where
he gained all those yards. We came back down and
we fixed it right, and so they were three, four, five, six,
eleven hats to the ball and they stopped him really
for the most part into that second half, and then

(01:29:21):
he had those big gashes, So most of his RUMs
came from very very big gashes, right, But for the
most part, I think they did a good job of
crroulling him. But our players were breaking down, wrapping him up,
and he was literally stiffing on him to the ground
and bouncing off of him. So I don't think it
was tackling. I just think he was that good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:36):
Not exs and knows. It was the Jimmy's and the
Joe as Alex is what he's saying. All right, let's
get to the offense. MK talked about that that defensive
line coming in at John Mattier. Two things, One, how
much is the offensive line still a concern? But two
did they kind of provide a blueprint because the MK
mentioned it, they like Matteer's ability or want to run.
They really kind of took that away. I don't know
if they were spying and what you saw up there, Alex,

(01:29:58):
but they certainly took that away from the tier.

Speaker 8 (01:30:00):
Well, they have a really unique defense, you know, going
into the game. I mean they basically play in a
dime package the whole They basically have six defensive backs
on the field the entire game. And they do that
because two of their safeties can play like linebackers, right,
So they have a really unique system that like I
don't think everybody else can comfortably play because they could

(01:30:20):
defend the run even with those guys, so they were
able to take away just your base, you know, way
Sean Parker and some of those things, and they show
so much. MK alluded to the pressure and all these
things that you know, for John, he's thinking the ball's
got to come out of my hands or the way
the play's designed, hopefully I'm protected, he mentioned.

Speaker 7 (01:30:40):
Out of the game.

Speaker 8 (01:30:40):
You know, at times they weren't getting the protection right,
and so I think I just think they were confused
by what Boise was bringing at them, which again it
was on tape for three weeks, so that surprised me
a little bit. But again I go back to this
idea that John Mateer's fifth start is a sophomore, it's
his first real road test like the Seattle game to me,

(01:31:02):
does not count as a road test, first real road test,
and I think that was a huge learning lesson for
him on how to handle that moment.

Speaker 9 (01:31:11):
I think, uh, go ahead, MK, I was gonna say, well,
two things won. They had great defensive pass rushers on
d line and then and then the second thing was
their blitz package. Alex, I don't know if you were
selling this or not, but they were. They were bringing corners,
they were bringing safeties, they were bringing linebackers, and it
was like John Mattier had like he had no time
to really react to it or he's actually probably never
even seen this kind of pressure before, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
What, I well, and listen that that's end of the dance.
Good football team. They took Oregon to the to the wire, right,
like I mean, and that's a team everyone's talking about
going to the college football Playoff again, shows probably why
that there's more good college football being played outside of
the Big Ten in the SEC than people want to
give credit for. So Alex brink MK are here with
us a few more minutes at our co ground table.

(01:31:53):
All right, listen. At the end of the day, though,
they're four and one after five games, and that stretch
was a gauntlet. I I know that people were gonna,
you know, well, Texas Tech isn't as good as their big,
big twelve team Power five conference at WAZU beat him
and beat the doors off of them.

Speaker 6 (01:32:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
They beat Washington, which you know, people around here still
think Washington's gonna be the first team to go to
college Football Playoff two. They should be washing This should
be five and one hundred percent. But they beat Washington
and and obviously a tough Santjose A State team on
that Friday night, and then the FCS. I mean, I
think if we looked at four and one back in
August and said, yeah, that's that's probably okay, you know,

(01:32:30):
depending on where the losses come, right, as long as
it's not to Portland State, you can probably live with
it at four and one, I think, Alex. The disappointing
thing is is two things. One, you know, we were
daring to dream for a second about something unheard of
for a team that just got kicked to the curb
and that would be the CFP. But to the concern
is this, and this is where Alex is half glass,
half full is going to come in for us here, MK, Alex,

(01:32:51):
we saw a little bit of this last year. Can
can Jake Dickert stop the bleeding? I look at the
schedule and think damn better like he should. That shouldn't
be a problem, uh with the sk edle coming up.
But what has to be different? What happened last year?
What has to change this year? Alex? After the bye week?

Speaker 8 (01:33:05):
Well, it's been two years. Really, you had a four
and one start two years ago. You had a foreign
zero start last year, right, and so you know you
have a four to one start this year, and so
you know, I think what I will say is that,
you know, after all that conversation and the sadness behind
my voice, is that that boys to State football team,
to to your point, is really really good and it

(01:33:27):
will probably be the best team Washington State sees on
their schedule the rest of the way and the whole year.
And so and you played them on the road, and
to your point about going into the season, if you
finished four to one, especially if the loss was to Boise,
you're probably saying, oh, that's okay. The the issue here
for Washington State is how they respond to that loss,

(01:33:47):
because again, it unwounds so quickly in the fourth quarter,
and it felt, it felt to everybody so frustrating. I
was in that locker room, like I the athletes were frustrated.
I get it, like they they they wanted that one
bad and so it's about how you respond. And I
think the bye week helps. You got to go on
the road and play good Fresno team, but who's got

(01:34:08):
their own issues. And I think that'll be an opportunity
to kind of get right a little bit, because if
you can go on the road to Fresno, we'll find
out really quick what this team's made of. Because to
your point about the rest of it, you know, you
get Hawaii at home. After that, you've got Utah stayed
at home, You've got Wyoming at home, and then you've
got a couple of road games with San Diego State
and Oregon State. You know, like there's some opportunity there,

(01:34:31):
but it's gonna be like, let me see the first
quarter of the Fresno game, and we'll know right off
the bat, and like that'll that'll be it because you
can come into this bye week and coach Dicker and
that staff. You know, you can watch that tape and
you can learn from it and you can flush it
pretty quick in my opinion, and I think if they
handle it right, it can be a real catalyst to
the rest of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:34:52):
Yeah, you've been around these guys all year. Man, you've
been watching these guys all year. You saw the want too.
What do you think is gonna happen down the road now?
And I'm with Alex, But the way Fresno, I mean
UNLV just that was that was bad, Like that was
woodshed bad. Oregon State, maybe right is the toughest one left.
I mean right, I like I Santueo State should be
a problem, mk. I mean you you expect to bounce back.

(01:35:13):
I don't think we're gonna see what we have solid
I do.

Speaker 9 (01:35:16):
I think there's a couple of guys that are banged
up that obviously want to take this by a week
and really use it to our advantage. But another thing,
too is decision making skills, you know, on both sides
of the ball, whether offense or defense. You know, should
we be having bringing in a little bit more pressure
on defense in certain situations, should we be going on
fourth and one, you know, inside our fifty yard line
in certain situations, you know, things like that, it's either
if it works, it's great. If it's not, it doesn't work,

(01:35:38):
you put your team in a whole lot of hurt.
So even looking at this game, and it shouldn't even
have been that, there were some slot points of the
end because we made bad decisions. Right. So I think
going into this bio week, watching film, getting ready to
attack the season, we should be able to take everything
off from here.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
And guys are probably. I mean, this is the time.
I think it's kind of a perfect by time too,
isn't it. I mean, yeah, off the lost, but I
mean you've been training camp all through August. You be going,
you know, all out, and also you get this this
week off and hopefully they can take that deep breath.
All right. Uh yeah, let's go. MK. Tell us about
Guild mortgage. I don't know if you know this, Alex,

(01:36:12):
He's got a plane, which tells me the mortgage business
must be turning around in a hurry.

Speaker 9 (01:36:17):
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Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
I'll tell you this. I've sent people to MK and
everyone has come away happy, please with the process. And
you know that's that's one of those things like you
got to get that thing done. Man. Young couples, older couples,
my daughter, my in laws, all those they've all talked
to MK. So go check them out with Guild Mortgage
and Alex, I'm looking to train. I'm looking to put
some gear on. What can I do?

Speaker 8 (01:36:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
I was just gonna say that's a big thing too, because,
as as Alex mentioned, it's not just football. I say,
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(01:37:32):
to this on a podcast later on the iHeart app.
Go check those guys out as well. All Right, gentlemen,
have a week off. We got a buy a week.
I'll give you guys a bye week because weve got
hockey next Tuesday, and we'll talk to you in two
weeks time. All right, go Cooog's, Go Coog's, Go Coog's.
That's Alex, It's MK. Those are our legends. We've got
a Factor fiction pick coming up at two thirty five
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