October 21, 2025 • 34 mins
There are a lot of emotions that come with the Mariners' loss and Ian shares his own. He relents on what is lost in the Mariners season, which is everyone coming together. Chris Crawford and Nathan Bishop join the show to give their thoughts on the way the Mariners' season ended. How much heat should Dan Wilson be taking right now? The guys dig into the decisions with the pitching staff. We take feedback from listeners on the Mariners' loss last night. Ian closes out with his thoughts on the Seahawks win on Monday Night Football last night and what it means for them in the division.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let me get to this. We've got a big show
coming up. The Mollywop guys are standing by, and I'll
tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna have just
a quicker segment today with them for a few minutes.
I texted Nate and Chris didn't even use our normal
group text that include one includes Anders and Benton, one
includes Just and Benton and Anders and I don't know
all these things. I just could the two of them
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last night and I said, you know, what I think
we need to do is just to have the three
of USBs for a second and just talk about last night,
and then we move on. We'll have our final regularly
scheduled Mollywop next Monday. That will be when we look
in the crystal ball. We'll look into the offseason, and
next week we'll look back more so at the entire
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season this year and looking ahead to next year. We'll
do that on Monday, and we've all had a chance
to decompress. Today's not for decompressing. Today is a date event.
The day is a day to talk about what happened
last night and in the series specifically, not about what's
to come, not about what could come not about what
but tonight Today's d They do that, So we're gonna
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have those guys here in just a few minutes. We'll
stand by for the Mully whoppers and then Joe Shean,
which I guess will be his final visit of the
year regularly scheduled, which is a bummer. We'll talk to
Joe at one thirty today and then a little Seahawk
conversation at one forty five to wrap up the show.
Probably no cross talk because everything's short today. And I'll
be honest with you, I think SOFTI needs to come
on cold and not cold, but I think come on
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hot at two o'clock and do his thing, and you know,
and you know, along those lines real fast before I
get to Nate and Chris. Everyone's feeling different today, talking
anders off the air like you know how you feelone's
feeling different today, and you know all the different stages
of grief so to speak, you know, and are you angry?
Are you sad? And everyone's feeling different today because everyone's
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fandom is different today. It's the beautiful thing about sports,
the emotions that come with it. They're not always good. Obviously,
we don't have good emotions today. But the beautiful thing
about sports is we're so invested, We're so damn invested,
and then all of a sudden, it can come to
an end. It can come to an end on the
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two yard line in Glendale, Arizona. It can come to
the end with one swing of the bats in Roger
Center in Toronto, or sometimes in a more glorious fashion,
with a double down the left field line, or a
home run with three guys on on a Friday night
at Team Mobile Park. It can come to an end
in different ways. So we all have different emotions that
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we're feeling today and we'll get to all that. I mean,
I'm sad. Mostly I'm sad because we as a family, like,
enjoyed something in sports together for the first time in forever,
and it was really cool for me personally. Most of
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the time I'm working Seahawks. I was always working for
the Seahawks when they had their great success, I was
always there. I never shared any of that with my family,
and I had to work, and you know, like I
tried to treat it as a job. It's probably why
the Malcolm Butler interception doesn't affect me as much as
others because I had to immediately go onto the field
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and interview players and do a postgame show for Fox thirteen.
I just didn't affect me as much. I mean, it
does today, probably more so as the years went on.
Probably the next year, when I went to that stupid
building and did a live shot for a pregame show
on the sideline, I could look over and see the
hashmark where the ball was sitting. Yeah, then it bothered
me certainly a lot. But the Mariners first time in
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a long time I've been able to share sports non
Wazoo related with my family, my wife, my son, my daughter,
And I'm bummed that that part of the year is over.
And I'm more bummed because I don't know when we're
ever going to get it back. That's the problem. When
Malcolm Butler had that pick at the goal line in
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Super Bowl forty nine, I think everyone in our city
and certainly you know, all of us covering that team
talking to players like whatever, it sucks, and that's probably
wasn't affected as much of the time. You know, legacies
are cool. Back to back would have been cool, But
I think we all look in ato that team. They'll
be back, They'll be back. In the Super Bowl next year. Hell,
if not next year, the year after, they'll be back.
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For sure, they'll be back. Have them been back? Have
them been close? And then the best organization in the city,
and it's not even close, most successful, the best, the
best run they have been back when the Kraken went
and took out the defending Stanley Cup champions in seven
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games three years ago in their second year of existence.
And then they followed that up with a seven game
series against an absolute wagon in the Dallas Stars. Took
them to seven, took them to the brink. I'm like,
this is the start of it. This is the start
of something cool to come. Stanley Cup playoffs every spring.
Sign me up, baby, have n't been back, haven't been close,
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been out of it for the last two years. By
December now, if Lane Lambert can see a healthy hockey team,
which doesn't seem possible in the near future, but if
he does, like he could get him there. But there's
no guarantees. And that's what I'm sad about. There's no guarantees,
Like Thanksgiving ends, Christmas ends, what do you guys do? Hey,
you know it's cool, great time. Can't wait to stuff
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my face next year. There is no guarantee for next year.
There is no guarantee that will be here again, and
that bums me out because it feels like a massive
opportunity lost and we'll get more in the bigger picture later.
I want to talk about last night because I think
now is the time to get angry if need be,
and frankly, if that's going to happen, hit them because it.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
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Speaker 1 (06:19):
So Mark James asked me MG and the Midday asked
me about what I was thinking yesterday when Springer hit
the home run or Brizardo came in, and I said,
the problem was I had just we literally got off
the air for Kraken postgame. I want to thank that
tens of people watching last night, we got good night
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for them, not you know what, good night to have
that game happen. By the way, I jumped in the car,
was getting trying to drive home. Want to watch last
few innings of the game with my with my family,
and then and then the Seahawks. Obviously, as Holland asked,
I'm listening to ESPN broadcast, and I didn't have the
full context of what was going on. I was like, wait,
wasn't w went there? Why is Bizarto in there? Oh Springer,
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Oh my god, this is bad. So I didn't have
a full context. I listened to the postcast last night,
Chris and Andrew's great job. Got a better feel for
what was going on than listening in. Carl Ravich and
EDWARDO Perez and Tim kirksh Caon do a terrific job.
And all I heard from them over and over again
is I don't understand Tim Kirsch, I don't understand what
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he's thinking. I don't understand what he's thinking. So let
me do this two up coming home for three straight
at Tea Mobile, one of the most incredible nights of
sports in our city's history. On Friday, Gino's Grand Slam
capping it off three to two. You got two chances
to close it out. It doesn't happen. More importantly, up
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two oh, up three to two, and then up three
to one in the latter innings with that bullpen, and
you don't close it out. So now I'm getting angry, Chris,
I'm gonna start with you today. Oh boy, I'm gonna
start with you. Dan Wilson is taking a lot of heat.
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How much heat should he take for last night and
for the series loss as a whole.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So I did a video on mayle Y right afterwards
because I really wanted to break this down. How much
blame do you really give the manager of the Seattle Mariners.
And what I ultimately came down to for yesterday's game
was I gave twenty five percent blame to only scoring
three runs. I gave twenty five percent blame to Eduard
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Bizardo and Brian Wim and I gave fifty percent blame
to Dan Wilson. Because I've talked about this ad nauseum.
The number one thing a manager does is the clubhouse.
It's the most important thing. It's the thing we can't
quantify it's impossible. It's the most important thing. The second
most important thing is putting your players into position to
have success. And Dan Wilson may have succeeded and had
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them ready to roll for Game six, and that was important.
He screwed the on number two and that is unacceptable.
It's unacceptable. I have multiple texts. I have a text
on my phone right now from someone who is going
to get Hall of Fame boats saying that's the worst
decision he has ever seen from a manager. Now does
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that make him right? No, it's not a there's not
a this. It's a fallacy to just say, uh, major
league baseball player who was really good at thinks it's
a bad decision. It doesn't make it a bad decision.
When everyone texts me and tells me that this is
a horrible decision, you gotta start thinking about it. And
I'm just gonna be honest. I've watched a lot of
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Seattle Mariner baseball. I am forty two years old. I
have been a fan a long long time. He's the
worst end game manager I've ever seen. He's the worst
in game manager that I have seen by a large amount.
He is probably great in the clubhouse, and that matters.
In fact, you could argue it matters more unless you
take a look at last night, and then you can
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wonder how much does it really matter? So ultimately, yes,
you have to do give blame on the offense for
only scoring three runs. Yes you have to give blame
on bizarre of throwing a disastrous pitch. But you also
have to blame Dan Wilson for not putting your best
players in position to succeed. And now you have the
Andreas Munio's Craig Kimbrel mame and those familiar with it,
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there's a meme of Craig Kimberl standing at a bullpen
waiting to get used, Andres Munhos got used, but it
was too little, too late, and it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Sucks Nathan.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
The team's best reliever. The Mariners were nine outs away
from the World Series. The Mariner's best reliever didn't get
to pitch with the lead because somebody who's unqualified, who
was hired through a process that was laughable that they
didn't they didn't even go outside of the organization to
look for anybody. They didn't even cast in that. They
just said, this is a guy. They plucked a guy
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from their team Hall of Fame to be their man.
Maybe there was more to it. They're more than welcome
to give us insight onto the process that led to
hiring Dan Wilson, and I would take it gratefully and
be happy to know the context. Sure looks like they
just grabbed a guy who is who was there that
they knew the fans would rally around and put him
in there and this team, I think part of what
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to Chris's point, when you're trying to divide a blame,
part of this is whatever part of it is the
manager's fault, it's the easiest for us to relate to
his fans. I can't hit a fastball. I can't hit
a one hundred and two mile an hour cutter. I
can't run, you know, one hundred and five feet to
track down a ball on the gap. I can't do
those things. So when players maybe miss a pitch by
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a half an inch, they like, there's two millimeters on
the bat, that's the difference between a home run and
a flyout. Like it's frustrating for me, but it's not relatable.
I can't relate to that. When the top of the
seventh starts and I know Ryan wu has two days rest,
has pitched one time in the past month because of injury,
and you're going to try to go out there without
anybody else ready in the seventh inning. You're just gonna
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pray that that works out to the point where now
you have to scramble and get the pitching coach out
there talking to Brian Wouo, so that you get not
your best reliever, not your second best reliever, your third
best reliever. And this is no shade to Edward Bizardo,
who was amazing in twenty twenty five. Of every pitcher
on this staff, I would argue you got more from
him than you had any reason to expect in the
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entire season. Full stop. I am not mad at Edward Bizardo.
I'm not trying to put him down. You had a
fully rested pitching staff. Every it was all hands on deck,
and that is the best that you have in that situation.
You did not go down with your best effort, and
you could see it. That's what's so frustrating. We shouldn't
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be able to tell this stuff when it's happening. Two.
I'm sorry to toot my own horn two months ago
for the newsletter I wrote for twenty twenty five. He
is almost ser going to be a liability in close
and late situations. Assuming the team makes the postseason. He
is going to have Mariner fans crawling on the ceiling,
so that will be fun. I shouldn't be right about that,
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and I shouldn't be able to see it coming from
two months ago. It is outrageous watching Cal Rowley cry
in the dugout after that game for the season that
he had, for Julio Rodriguez to scream and anguish because
their manager can't do the stuff that every other manager
in Major League Baseball can do. It's not acceptable to me, man.
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It's whatever organizational structure put this man this season in
this position infuriates me. I'm so mad today, and I
will be so happy when we recap this season. Best
season of my life, so many great things. But today
I am so pissed off that he was allowed to
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take this moment from us in such an obvious an
avoidable way. If Andres Munhoz had gotten beat by George Springer,
I'd be so sad it happens. It's baseball to make
clear and obvious tactical choices where the entire industry is
texting Christopher specifically and saying, Chris, this guy sucks at this.
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That shouldn't be happening. How does this happen?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Anyway? I'm done well, and I think listen, the frustration
is that you had. They put together a team and again,
we'll recap everything on Monday. We'll givebody a few days
and kind of wrap it up in six days. They
put together a team that arguably was the best team
they've had since O one, easily maybe the second best
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they've ever had period, just in terms of the starting pitching. Chris,
would you agree?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Right, I mean you had and yeah everything, Yeah, and
you do all that, but you don't give them the
most basic and probably the easiest tool in the sh
to work with the manager. And that was a thing
that bothered me. Nate, you hit at the end, Chris,
let you jump in. If George Springer beats Andras Munhos, hell,
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I'll be honest with you. If George Springer beats Andras
Munos or even Matt Brash, righty, right, if you want
to go that route, I'm okay, more so with Munos
than Brash. But as as Nathan said, this is what
I was listening on the radio driving home, Like listening
to those guys on the ESPN broadcast were like, no
one's warned, Like they're ill prepared. They sounded ill prepared.
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Chris for the biggest moment of the year. Nine outs
biggest moment of the year, Chris, how not. And it's
not just Dan Wilson. It can't just be Dan Wilson,
can't it, Chris. It's gotta be that entire dugout of coaches.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean I I said this on the postcast,
and uh, someone with more experience who is going to
be more in Dan Wilson's ear needs to be on
the staff next year because clearly, clearly there's nobody getting
through to him right Like, and I respect a lot
of those guys. I've talked to a lot of those guys.
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I've interviewed some of them on this ear radio station.
But that's just a complete We talk about process and
failure all the freaking time in sports. It's one of
the most common phrases now that it's an abject failure
and process, and boy, oh boy, is it a failure
and result, because look what we're talking about right now,
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it's just unacceptable It's unacceptable to lose in that fashion.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It is.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Go down with your best right. If you're gonna lose,
let Andrex Munials be that guy. And that would have
been heartbreaking, and I would have had to deal with
a bunch of idiots who claimed that Andres Munals isn't
Bill for this and the crap like that. But in
my heart of hearts, I know that Andrex Munhals can
get the job done, because look, he's gotten the job done.
He's been an absolute wagon in this postseason. And Edward
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Bizzard always had some great moments in this postseason. And
one of the biggest issues I have is after throwing
two innings yesterday, that's who you're going with too, like Captery.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
For two innings.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, it's just a complete failure and process and results,
and it's it's it's it's kind of embarrassing. It's kind
of embarrassing to root for a manager who's making decisions
like this.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Nate, will we wrap it up with this? Was this
an opportunity lost? And did a better team not win
this series?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
It's absolutely an opportunity lost. You were nine outs away
from making the first World Series. We spoke about it yesterday.
I think these teams were in very different and incredibly
evenly matched. I think that player to player, all the
way down the lineup, I think the Marriags were a
slightly better team. It's absolutely an opportunity missed, and there's
I mean, we'll talk about it next time. There are
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so many questions now about what's going to happen between
now and opening day in twenty twenty six, and that's
what stings the most. To your point, Ian, that feeling
after the second Super Bowl, not just that they had
won the one the year before, the feeling that we
were just aring a window was so tangible with the
Seahawks at that time, and I put it out to
somebody else in a conversation I was having, you know
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what was so fun about the last couple of months.
And I know that I can be a negative guy.
I hope people notice the change in the past four
to six weeks. For me is because I was trusting
the players. The players had the season in their hands,
they decided what was going to happen. And now what's
so hard is I got to depend on people I
don't trust again to get this right so we can
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
Chris Mile, Why Mile why?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
NBC Sports locked on Seahawks for the rest of the year.
I'm sure Andrews and I'll do some locked on Mariner
stuff as well, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You guys did a great job, by the way, Thank
guys did a great job. And you know how I
know you did a good job is because I could
sit there and see how many views you were getting
in everything else. You guys built up a hell of
a little product there with the Menor's postcast. You guys
did a great job with that. All right, Uh, we
reconvene on Monday. Okay, we reconvene on Monday, and we'll
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look at the bigger picture because that's next And there
are a lot of questions free agents, coaching, managing, front office,
will ownership spend the money? We got a lot to
look in some ways. You could make an argument because
of where you are right now on the mountaintop. This
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is maybe the most important offseason they've ever had. Can
you retain and maintain what you've already built and add
on to that or are you going to be content?
We'll talk about that on Monday. Guys, thank you so
much for joining me. That's Chris Crawford, Ate Bishop Nathan Bishop.
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Speaker 5 (21:12):
Not yet.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
No, we we haven't tell.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I spoke with him earlier and he was good to go,
so maybe he got caught up. We will find out, Okay,
I want to he he's gonna actually, my surprise people,
he's gonna somewhat defend Dan Wilson if we get him
on only. But his newsletter yesterday prior to the game
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was oh yeah, let's see, m let's see I'm gonna
read a couple of texts. Then four nine four why
not you guys, you guys tell me if if we
get him on okay, Nathan is dead wrong. One through nine,
Toronto was a better team. I think we're and we'll
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talk about this more on Monday. I don't know. Seattle's
bottom of the order obviously was awful at times, and
I was surprised. I thought can Zone would be better.
And you know what, I wouldn't give up on him.
He's not gonna win any gold gloves or anything. But
I thought, I don't know, man, I thought I thought
he would be better. Obviously, the bottom of the order
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was a struggle for Seattle. But it's kind of a
struggle for them. I mean they got him and as
hits the two home runs, like, what the hell? Where'd
that come from? Guys are of the worst hitters in baseball?
For God's sakes, I mean, stuff happens. Let's see. Thank you, Ian.
More often than not, you say what we all want
to to me. This year's a failure. We had it
in our grasswood away. I don't think we'll get back
there anytime soon. Again, thank you. I'm not calling this
season of failure though, I'm going to be perfectly clear
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with that. It's just it's not Now were the playoffs
of failure? Yeah, they should have been to the World Series.
That part of the year was a failure to look
at like a semester of classes. I mean, overall, you passed.
But it was a pretty good season, like a really
good season, some great memories. But to have a two
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zero lead after two wins on the road, and then
to have a three to two lead with two games
to go on the road again, but just win one
of two and a three to one lead with nine
outs to go in a game to clinch it. Yeah, man,
that's that's not good. That's that's just that's just not good.
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All right. Well, I'm gonna punt on Joe. Yeah, that's
kind of what I'm thinking to Let's just put let's
get him on next Tuesday. You guys can figure out
what happened there and let me know. Four to two five.
I agree Dan Wilson gets a lot of blame here,
but obviously are absolutely correct to focus on the process,
and the process is put in place by upper management
and ownership. Those are the people you blame. Ultimately, forty
nine years of mediocrity. We don't care about winning or fans.
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I just want to make money. That's what we saw
go sideways last night. See, I think that's a I
think we're over. Here's the thing with that, and I
understand what you're saying from the forty five. I get
what you're saying. The thing is is that they were
Jerry and Justin were allowed to go out and add
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to the roster. It's kind of what has separated some
of the other teams that have been going to the
postseason this year. They went out, there were a couple
glaring meats first base, top of the list, upgrade offensively
at third base. They went out and got both those guys.
They got the best they could on the market. They
got a you know, forty five to fifty home run
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guy in Gino, and they got a guy in Naylhor
This is just an absolute baller. They were allowed to
do their job as a front office, at least in
terms of player acquisition. My concern is will they be
allowed to do that same job in the offseason this
year and resigned Naylor and all that. But that's for
a different day. Andrews, glad you're still alive. Great job
putting in that work yesterday in Toronto. That was a
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lot of work. It was you're a busy guy yesterday
I was Toronto Radio is for sure using Ian as
a sound bite. What did I say? Did I say something.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I think people have misconstrued when it was too daily
you said something along the lines or you were looking
ahead of the World Series?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Hell? Yeah, it was nothing. Yeah, damn, Ron, I was
one and four. You went one and four. By the way,
it was yeah. I mean, here's the thing, it was
two all with two wins on the road. You're coming
home where you have been the best home team in
the second half of the season. That's oh yeah, yeah,
it was over. Hell yeah, who we playing the World Series?
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I didn't think. I didn't think it was. I could
not listen. I know what our history is here, and
I know the doomsday world that we live in as
Mariner fans like get all that. I could not fathom
what happened and what you just said, And what was
the record after that one and four?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
They went one and four.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
They lost four of five games. It had been since
win June that they had done that. No, I guess
they did that. No, No, that's wrong after the trade deadline.
They had that little stretch right they went, uh.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
It was second and twenty second half of September, Yes, yeah,
six one or whatever. That was second half of augustus.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Isn't Woodworth part of the blame pie?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
And you said it, and I think you mentioned it
in the Mollywop segment. It's not just Dan, it's the
whole Staf.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Wilson leans on Winworth for in game pitching decisions. We
should have pushed harder from Munos entered the seventh inning.
I love Maniacta and Perry Hill's great to those two guys.
Perryhill and many are great on our show, great to us.
But man, I think with managing, there's it's got to
be a collective effort.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
In game.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yes, the pre game decisions are obviously inspired or you know,
obviously influenced by more than just the manager and his
coaching staff, GMS and analytics team and all those guys.
They all have a say too. But when you get
in the heart of it, you don't see Dan. Dan
can't be on a cell phone talking to Jerry. It
doesn't work that way. So true, Dan completely wasted the
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best catching season of all time.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, that's why I that's what it hurts from me,
and I kind of mentioned this to you in the
break is the players did enough to win this game.
There were just so many moments that could have gone
down in Seattle Sports lower from that game seven, and
it's gonna be mostly forgotten. Like Julio with a double
and a home run in his first game seven in
his career, Kirby shoving in his third elimination game ever,
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pitched again, WU coming out of the bullpen, coming off
an injury and dominating the lineup. JP Crawford's hurdle double play,
Josh Naylor even the funny little moments that doesn't really
make a big difference on the game, Josh Naylor getting
the way of the throw because that's just who he is,
cal Rawly owning Toronto. Still, all of those things. The
players did enough to win this game, and their manager
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kind of let them down. I think.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Was that the worst loss in CL sports history. There's
gonna be a lot of talk about that over the
next few days. There's a lot of talk. I'm not
gonna get into it today. I just I don't want to,
but I'll let you guys do on that. You can
think about it, don't answer it right now, but you
can stew on it. I don't know, there's been a
lot too many Let's see, it's a great way to
(28:19):
put it in. There will there will be a baseball
season next year, guaranteed, just like there will be a
Thanksgiving next year. But you get to the point in
the postseason. It's the firsest thing from a guarantee. Yeah,
that's the thing I have is that when I mentioned
that in the first segment today. What saddens me. What
saddens me is this they they the Mariners, getting back
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to this position. We have no idea if it's going
to happen again in twelve months, twenty four months, forty
eight months, or fourteen to fifteen years. We don't know. Yeah,
there's no great they had it. They they've been fairly
okay health wise. Col stayed healthy, Julio stayed healthy. I
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don't know. Whatever, I'm gonna move on, we'll talk. I
was just say this two things. One, don't forget to
cracking ticket Tuesday. We told you about that already. The
next thing I would tell you is this, don't miss
soft the top of the hour two o'clock, we will
do Crosstock. We'll just let him do his thing. At
two o'clock with Faine, we'll come back quick thoughts on
the Seahawk game last night. We'll do that to wrap
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things up on this Cracking ticket Tuesday.
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Speaker 1 (29:49):
FM, Saftie and Faint coming up top of the hour.
I'll just I don't need to tease their show other
than just telling you this. I know my guy well,
and I'm assuming he's gonna have a lot to say
and be quite emotional coming up at two o'clock, So
stand to stand by for that. Krack and Hockey three
thirty pre game four o'clock drop with the puck in
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the Nation's Capital against the great hit eight Alexandrovchkin and
the Capitals. It's game five of a six game roady
Cracking losing their first game in regulation last night to
the h Where the hell were we last night? Why
can't I not remember? The Philadelphia Flyers?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yes, they were on the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
It was a very forgettable game in a lot of ways,
very forgettable. Well, let me get to this real quick.
Seahawks last night. I mean, I can't ever even fathom
a time at KGr when the Seawks have played a
Monday night football game and someone's done fifty minutes of
radio without mentioning the Seahawks outside of headlines. That would
be me today. But that's where the Mariners were on
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the food chain, and I'm sure that'd be the focus
of soft Ease show coming up here with Faine a
little bit. But the Seas get an important win. They
are one. And here's why it's important. You're trying to
keep pace, not just with San Francisco and the Rams
and the NFC West, but with the NFC as a whole.
There are six teams in the NFC that are at
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five and two. There is one team that's four to
one and one that's Green Bay. They're the top seed.
The next six teams are all five and two. And
the reason that Seattle's the sixth seed and the Rams
of the seventh and Tampa Bay is the fourth is
all kinds of tie breakers and all that kind of stuff.
But that's how it shakes out right now. Chicago four
and two is right there as the eight seed, and
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so is Dallas at three to three and one. They're
not done yet either. Washington massively disappointing season three and four,
but one and four in the conference. They're not done,
but they're on life support. They're in pretty bad shape.
But this is just a really, really good conference this year,
and Seattle's in the best division in that conference. And
the most remarkable thing about yesterday in the football game,
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and I probably the least watch Seahawks game ever, especially
in prime time, because I think by the time the
Merry game ended, it was mid like ten minutes to
go in the second quarter, and by the time that
was going on, I think a lot of people were
just in like Mariner hangover land and just trying to
figure out what the hell just happened after they got
kicked in the in the you know, you know what's
in the Jewels and the Onions. The Seahawks did everything
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in their power to lose that football game to a
pretty decent team, and they still want And what's cool
about that is that tells you're a pretty good football
team when you do everything possible to lose four turnovers,
only two receivers caught a ball three I guess three. Technically,
whatever it was, you didn't run the ball effectively until
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the second half, and even when you did, the guy
that was averaging five point six yards of carry in
the second half was Ken Walker, you still once again
decided not to give him the football enough. The insistence
on running Zach Charbonay is a mind boggling, a head
scratching move on Friday, I think, Jesse, I know you're
working on it. I don't know if it's confirmed, but
we're gonna probably try to do what we did last
year during the bye week. Yes, and have and have
Colles actually going to Okay, good Cosell and Hugh on together.
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That is one of the first things I'm an ass
those two guys. What are they doing at the running
back position? I don't get it. But all of that said,
they won. And there is nothing in sports that is
more important than wins. In the NFL on a week
two week basis, because you have so few opportunities with
a seventeen game schedule, you have to win, and sitting
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at five and two into a bye week, they are
in really good shape. And oh, by the way, they
were able to somehow get away with resting Witherspoon and
love Witherspoon, How bad are you hurt? By the way
you're jumping up and down celebrating on the sideline all
the time, Like I don't get it. That's fine, you guys,
do you? It's weird, a weird thing going on with him.
But he's going to be back and and they'll be
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back in a couple of weeks time. They'll have to
go to Washington. But this team, damn good man, damn
good When it's all said and done at five and two,
not even playing great, Dnald had I don't want to
say his worst game, but maybe a couple worst decisions,
and they still come away with the winds. So good
for them heading into by week at five and two,
all right, we'll take a break, or not take a break.
We're gonna take a bye. We're out.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I can see you, we miss you.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'll be back at some point in tracking studio. I
guess tomorrow. Back here on Thursday, anyway, softy faint on
a crack of ticket. Tuesday coming up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Next for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable in forness.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
This is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,
Let me get to this. We've got a big show
coming up. The Mollywop guys are standing by, and I'll
tell you what we're gonna do. We're gonna have just
a quicker segment today with them for a few minutes.
I texted Nate and Chris didn't even use our normal
group text that include one includes Anders and Benton, one
includes Just and Benton and Anders and I don't know
all these things. I just could the two of them
(00:22):
last night and I said, you know, what I think
we need to do is just to have the three
of USBs for a second and just talk about last night,
and then we move on. We'll have our final regularly
scheduled Mollywop next Monday. That will be when we look
in the crystal ball. We'll look into the offseason, and
next week we'll look back more so at the entire
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season this year and looking ahead to next year. We'll
do that on Monday, and we've all had a chance
to decompress. Today's not for decompressing. Today is a date event.
The day is a day to talk about what happened
last night and in the series specifically, not about what's
to come, not about what could come not about what
but tonight Today's d They do that, So we're gonna
(01:02):
have those guys here in just a few minutes. We'll
stand by for the Mully whoppers and then Joe Shean,
which I guess will be his final visit of the
year regularly scheduled, which is a bummer. We'll talk to
Joe at one thirty today and then a little Seahawk
conversation at one forty five to wrap up the show.
Probably no cross talk because everything's short today. And I'll
be honest with you, I think SOFTI needs to come
on cold and not cold, but I think come on
(01:24):
hot at two o'clock and do his thing, and you know,
and you know, along those lines real fast before I
get to Nate and Chris. Everyone's feeling different today, talking
anders off the air like you know how you feelone's
feeling different today, and you know all the different stages
of grief so to speak, you know, and are you angry?
Are you sad? And everyone's feeling different today because everyone's
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fandom is different today. It's the beautiful thing about sports,
the emotions that come with it. They're not always good. Obviously,
we don't have good emotions today. But the beautiful thing
about sports is we're so invested, We're so damn invested,
and then all of a sudden, it can come to
an end. It can come to an end on the
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two yard line in Glendale, Arizona. It can come to
the end with one swing of the bats in Roger
Center in Toronto, or sometimes in a more glorious fashion,
with a double down the left field line, or a
home run with three guys on on a Friday night
at Team Mobile Park. It can come to an end
in different ways. So we all have different emotions that
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we're feeling today and we'll get to all that. I mean,
I'm sad. Mostly I'm sad because we as a family, like,
enjoyed something in sports together for the first time in forever,
and it was really cool for me personally. Most of
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the time I'm working Seahawks. I was always working for
the Seahawks when they had their great success, I was
always there. I never shared any of that with my family,
and I had to work, and you know, like I
tried to treat it as a job. It's probably why
the Malcolm Butler interception doesn't affect me as much as
others because I had to immediately go onto the field
(03:14):
and interview players and do a postgame show for Fox thirteen.
I just didn't affect me as much. I mean, it
does today, probably more so as the years went on.
Probably the next year, when I went to that stupid
building and did a live shot for a pregame show
on the sideline, I could look over and see the
hashmark where the ball was sitting. Yeah, then it bothered
me certainly a lot. But the Mariners first time in
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a long time I've been able to share sports non
Wazoo related with my family, my wife, my son, my daughter,
And I'm bummed that that part of the year is over.
And I'm more bummed because I don't know when we're
ever going to get it back. That's the problem. When
Malcolm Butler had that pick at the goal line in
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Super Bowl forty nine, I think everyone in our city
and certainly you know, all of us covering that team
talking to players like whatever, it sucks, and that's probably
wasn't affected as much of the time. You know, legacies
are cool. Back to back would have been cool, But
I think we all look in ato that team. They'll
be back, They'll be back. In the Super Bowl next year. Hell,
if not next year, the year after, they'll be back.
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For sure, they'll be back. Have them been back? Have
them been close? And then the best organization in the city,
and it's not even close, most successful, the best, the
best run they have been back when the Kraken went
and took out the defending Stanley Cup champions in seven
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games three years ago in their second year of existence.
And then they followed that up with a seven game
series against an absolute wagon in the Dallas Stars. Took
them to seven, took them to the brink. I'm like,
this is the start of it. This is the start
of something cool to come. Stanley Cup playoffs every spring.
Sign me up, baby, have n't been back, haven't been close,
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been out of it for the last two years. By
December now, if Lane Lambert can see a healthy hockey team,
which doesn't seem possible in the near future, but if
he does, like he could get him there. But there's
no guarantees. And that's what I'm sad about. There's no guarantees,
Like Thanksgiving ends, Christmas ends, what do you guys do? Hey,
you know it's cool, great time. Can't wait to stuff
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my face next year. There is no guarantee for next year.
There is no guarantee that will be here again, and
that bums me out because it feels like a massive
opportunity lost and we'll get more in the bigger picture later.
I want to talk about last night because I think
now is the time to get angry if need be,
and frankly, if that's going to happen, hit them because it.
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Speaker 1 (06:19):
So Mark James asked me MG and the Midday asked
me about what I was thinking yesterday when Springer hit
the home run or Brizardo came in, and I said,
the problem was I had just we literally got off
the air for Kraken postgame. I want to thank that
tens of people watching last night, we got good night
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for them, not you know what, good night to have
that game happen. By the way, I jumped in the car,
was getting trying to drive home. Want to watch last
few innings of the game with my with my family,
and then and then the Seahawks. Obviously, as Holland asked,
I'm listening to ESPN broadcast, and I didn't have the
full context of what was going on. I was like, wait,
wasn't w went there? Why is Bizarto in there? Oh Springer,
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Oh my god, this is bad. So I didn't have
a full context. I listened to the postcast last night,
Chris and Andrew's great job. Got a better feel for
what was going on than listening in. Carl Ravich and
EDWARDO Perez and Tim kirksh Caon do a terrific job.
And all I heard from them over and over again
is I don't understand Tim Kirsch, I don't understand what
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he's thinking. I don't understand what he's thinking. So let
me do this two up coming home for three straight
at Tea Mobile, one of the most incredible nights of
sports in our city's history. On Friday, Gino's Grand Slam
capping it off three to two. You got two chances
to close it out. It doesn't happen. More importantly, up
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two oh, up three to two, and then up three
to one in the latter innings with that bullpen, and
you don't close it out. So now I'm getting angry, Chris,
I'm gonna start with you today. Oh boy, I'm gonna
start with you. Dan Wilson is taking a lot of heat.
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How much heat should he take for last night and
for the series loss as a whole.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So I did a video on mayle Y right afterwards
because I really wanted to break this down. How much
blame do you really give the manager of the Seattle Mariners.
And what I ultimately came down to for yesterday's game
was I gave twenty five percent blame to only scoring
three runs. I gave twenty five percent blame to Eduard
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Bizardo and Brian Wim and I gave fifty percent blame
to Dan Wilson. Because I've talked about this ad nauseum.
The number one thing a manager does is the clubhouse.
It's the most important thing. It's the thing we can't
quantify it's impossible. It's the most important thing. The second
most important thing is putting your players into position to
have success. And Dan Wilson may have succeeded and had
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them ready to roll for Game six, and that was important.
He screwed the on number two and that is unacceptable.
It's unacceptable. I have multiple texts. I have a text
on my phone right now from someone who is going
to get Hall of Fame boats saying that's the worst
decision he has ever seen from a manager. Now does
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that make him right? No, it's not a there's not
a this. It's a fallacy to just say, uh, major
league baseball player who was really good at thinks it's
a bad decision. It doesn't make it a bad decision.
When everyone texts me and tells me that this is
a horrible decision, you gotta start thinking about it. And
I'm just gonna be honest. I've watched a lot of
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Seattle Mariner baseball. I am forty two years old. I
have been a fan a long long time. He's the
worst end game manager I've ever seen. He's the worst
in game manager that I have seen by a large amount.
He is probably great in the clubhouse, and that matters.
In fact, you could argue it matters more unless you
take a look at last night, and then you can
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wonder how much does it really matter? So ultimately, yes,
you have to do give blame on the offense for
only scoring three runs. Yes you have to give blame
on bizarre of throwing a disastrous pitch. But you also
have to blame Dan Wilson for not putting your best
players in position to succeed. And now you have the
Andreas Munio's Craig Kimbrel mame and those familiar with it,
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there's a meme of Craig Kimberl standing at a bullpen
waiting to get used, Andres Munhos got used, but it
was too little, too late, and it.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Sucks Nathan.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
The team's best reliever. The Mariners were nine outs away
from the World Series. The Mariner's best reliever didn't get
to pitch with the lead because somebody who's unqualified, who
was hired through a process that was laughable that they
didn't they didn't even go outside of the organization to
look for anybody. They didn't even cast in that. They
just said, this is a guy. They plucked a guy
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from their team Hall of Fame to be their man.
Maybe there was more to it. They're more than welcome
to give us insight onto the process that led to
hiring Dan Wilson, and I would take it gratefully and
be happy to know the context. Sure looks like they
just grabbed a guy who is who was there that
they knew the fans would rally around and put him
in there and this team, I think part of what
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to Chris's point, when you're trying to divide a blame,
part of this is whatever part of it is the
manager's fault, it's the easiest for us to relate to
his fans. I can't hit a fastball. I can't hit
a one hundred and two mile an hour cutter. I
can't run, you know, one hundred and five feet to
track down a ball on the gap. I can't do
those things. So when players maybe miss a pitch by
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a half an inch, they like, there's two millimeters on
the bat, that's the difference between a home run and
a flyout. Like it's frustrating for me, but it's not relatable.
I can't relate to that. When the top of the
seventh starts and I know Ryan wu has two days rest,
has pitched one time in the past month because of injury,
and you're going to try to go out there without
anybody else ready in the seventh inning. You're just gonna
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pray that that works out to the point where now
you have to scramble and get the pitching coach out
there talking to Brian Wouo, so that you get not
your best reliever, not your second best reliever, your third
best reliever. And this is no shade to Edward Bizardo,
who was amazing in twenty twenty five. Of every pitcher
on this staff, I would argue you got more from
him than you had any reason to expect in the
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entire season. Full stop. I am not mad at Edward Bizardo.
I'm not trying to put him down. You had a
fully rested pitching staff. Every it was all hands on deck,
and that is the best that you have in that situation.
You did not go down with your best effort, and
you could see it. That's what's so frustrating. We shouldn't
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be able to tell this stuff when it's happening. Two.
I'm sorry to toot my own horn two months ago
for the newsletter I wrote for twenty twenty five. He
is almost ser going to be a liability in close
and late situations. Assuming the team makes the postseason. He
is going to have Mariner fans crawling on the ceiling,
so that will be fun. I shouldn't be right about that,
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and I shouldn't be able to see it coming from
two months ago. It is outrageous watching Cal Rowley cry
in the dugout after that game for the season that
he had, for Julio Rodriguez to scream and anguish because
their manager can't do the stuff that every other manager
in Major League Baseball can do. It's not acceptable to me, man.
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It's whatever organizational structure put this man this season in
this position infuriates me. I'm so mad today, and I
will be so happy when we recap this season. Best
season of my life, so many great things. But today
I am so pissed off that he was allowed to
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take this moment from us in such an obvious an
avoidable way. If Andres Munhoz had gotten beat by George Springer,
I'd be so sad it happens. It's baseball to make
clear and obvious tactical choices where the entire industry is
texting Christopher specifically and saying, Chris, this guy sucks at this.
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That shouldn't be happening. How does this happen?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Anyway? I'm done well, and I think listen, the frustration
is that you had. They put together a team and again,
we'll recap everything on Monday. We'll givebody a few days
and kind of wrap it up in six days. They
put together a team that arguably was the best team
they've had since O one, easily maybe the second best
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they've ever had period, just in terms of the starting pitching. Chris,
would you agree?
Speaker 2 (14:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Right, I mean you had and yeah everything, Yeah, and
you do all that, but you don't give them the
most basic and probably the easiest tool in the sh
to work with the manager. And that was a thing
that bothered me. Nate, you hit at the end, Chris,
let you jump in. If George Springer beats Andras Munhos, hell,
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I'll be honest with you. If George Springer beats Andras
Munos or even Matt Brash, righty, right, if you want
to go that route, I'm okay, more so with Munos
than Brash. But as as Nathan said, this is what
I was listening on the radio driving home, Like listening
to those guys on the ESPN broadcast were like, no
one's warned, Like they're ill prepared. They sounded ill prepared.
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Chris for the biggest moment of the year. Nine outs
biggest moment of the year, Chris, how not. And it's
not just Dan Wilson. It can't just be Dan Wilson,
can't it, Chris. It's gotta be that entire dugout of coaches.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, I mean I I said this on the postcast,
and uh, someone with more experience who is going to
be more in Dan Wilson's ear needs to be on
the staff next year because clearly, clearly there's nobody getting
through to him right Like, and I respect a lot
of those guys. I've talked to a lot of those guys.
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I've interviewed some of them on this ear radio station.
But that's just a complete We talk about process and
failure all the freaking time in sports. It's one of
the most common phrases now that it's an abject failure
and process, and boy, oh boy, is it a failure
and result, because look what we're talking about right now,
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it's just unacceptable It's unacceptable to lose in that fashion.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
It is.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Go down with your best right. If you're gonna lose,
let Andrex Munials be that guy. And that would have
been heartbreaking, and I would have had to deal with
a bunch of idiots who claimed that Andres Munals isn't
Bill for this and the crap like that. But in
my heart of hearts, I know that Andrex Munhals can
get the job done, because look, he's gotten the job done.
He's been an absolute wagon in this postseason. And Edward
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Bizzard always had some great moments in this postseason. And
one of the biggest issues I have is after throwing
two innings yesterday, that's who you're going with too, like Captery.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
For two innings.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Yeah, it's just a complete failure and process and results,
and it's it's it's it's kind of embarrassing. It's kind
of embarrassing to root for a manager who's making decisions
like this.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Nate, will we wrap it up with this? Was this
an opportunity lost? And did a better team not win
this series?
Speaker 4 (17:24):
It's absolutely an opportunity lost. You were nine outs away
from making the first World Series. We spoke about it yesterday.
I think these teams were in very different and incredibly
evenly matched. I think that player to player, all the
way down the lineup, I think the Marriags were a
slightly better team. It's absolutely an opportunity missed, and there's
I mean, we'll talk about it next time. There are
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so many questions now about what's going to happen between
now and opening day in twenty twenty six, and that's
what stings the most. To your point, Ian, that feeling
after the second Super Bowl, not just that they had
won the one the year before, the feeling that we
were just aring a window was so tangible with the
Seahawks at that time, and I put it out to
somebody else in a conversation I was having, you know
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what was so fun about the last couple of months.
And I know that I can be a negative guy.
I hope people notice the change in the past four
to six weeks. For me is because I was trusting
the players. The players had the season in their hands,
they decided what was going to happen. And now what's
so hard is I got to depend on people I
don't trust again to get this right so we can
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
Chris Mile, Why Mile why?
Speaker 3 (18:48):
NBC Sports locked on Seahawks for the rest of the year.
I'm sure Andrews and I'll do some locked on Mariner
stuff as well, But I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You guys did a great job, by the way, Thank
guys did a great job. And you know how I
know you did a good job is because I could
sit there and see how many views you were getting
in everything else. You guys built up a hell of
a little product there with the Menor's postcast. You guys
did a great job with that. All right, Uh, we
reconvene on Monday. Okay, we reconvene on Monday, and we'll
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look at the bigger picture because that's next And there
are a lot of questions free agents, coaching, managing, front office,
will ownership spend the money? We got a lot to
look in some ways. You could make an argument because
of where you are right now on the mountaintop. This
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is maybe the most important offseason they've ever had. Can
you retain and maintain what you've already built and add
on to that or are you going to be content?
We'll talk about that on Monday. Guys, thank you so
much for joining me. That's Chris Crawford, Ate Bishop Nathan Bishop.
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nights with Micjesus and dry Sidle, I like the wow, Wow,
that's a low bar man. That is that is that
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you win those tickets, they may actually have you play
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who knows, maybe you're gonna play for them. Might even
held open try outside of Casey, it's it's getting that
bad any any side of Joe.
Speaker 5 (21:12):
Not yet.
Speaker 4 (21:14):
No, we we haven't tell.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
I spoke with him earlier and he was good to go,
so maybe he got caught up. We will find out, Okay,
I want to he he's gonna actually, my surprise people,
he's gonna somewhat defend Dan Wilson if we get him
on only. But his newsletter yesterday prior to the game
(21:39):
was oh yeah, let's see, m let's see I'm gonna
read a couple of texts. Then four nine four why
not you guys, you guys tell me if if we
get him on okay, Nathan is dead wrong. One through nine,
Toronto was a better team. I think we're and we'll
(22:04):
talk about this more on Monday. I don't know. Seattle's
bottom of the order obviously was awful at times, and
I was surprised. I thought can Zone would be better.
And you know what, I wouldn't give up on him.
He's not gonna win any gold gloves or anything. But
I thought, I don't know, man, I thought I thought
he would be better. Obviously, the bottom of the order
(22:26):
was a struggle for Seattle. But it's kind of a
struggle for them. I mean they got him and as
hits the two home runs, like, what the hell? Where'd
that come from? Guys are of the worst hitters in baseball?
For God's sakes, I mean, stuff happens. Let's see. Thank you, Ian.
More often than not, you say what we all want
to to me. This year's a failure. We had it
in our grasswood away. I don't think we'll get back
there anytime soon. Again, thank you. I'm not calling this
season of failure though, I'm going to be perfectly clear
(22:47):
with that. It's just it's not Now were the playoffs
of failure? Yeah, they should have been to the World Series.
That part of the year was a failure to look
at like a semester of classes. I mean, overall, you passed.
But it was a pretty good season, like a really
good season, some great memories. But to have a two
(23:09):
zero lead after two wins on the road, and then
to have a three to two lead with two games
to go on the road again, but just win one
of two and a three to one lead with nine
outs to go in a game to clinch it. Yeah, man,
that's that's not good. That's that's just that's just not good.
(23:31):
All right. Well, I'm gonna punt on Joe. Yeah, that's
kind of what I'm thinking to Let's just put let's
get him on next Tuesday. You guys can figure out
what happened there and let me know. Four to two five.
I agree Dan Wilson gets a lot of blame here,
but obviously are absolutely correct to focus on the process,
and the process is put in place by upper management
and ownership. Those are the people you blame. Ultimately, forty
nine years of mediocrity. We don't care about winning or fans.
(23:53):
I just want to make money. That's what we saw
go sideways last night. See, I think that's a I
think we're over. Here's the thing with that, and I
understand what you're saying from the forty five. I get
what you're saying. The thing is is that they were
Jerry and Justin were allowed to go out and add
(24:14):
to the roster. It's kind of what has separated some
of the other teams that have been going to the
postseason this year. They went out, there were a couple
glaring meats first base, top of the list, upgrade offensively
at third base. They went out and got both those guys.
They got the best they could on the market. They
got a you know, forty five to fifty home run
(24:36):
guy in Gino, and they got a guy in Naylhor
This is just an absolute baller. They were allowed to
do their job as a front office, at least in
terms of player acquisition. My concern is will they be
allowed to do that same job in the offseason this
year and resigned Naylor and all that. But that's for
a different day. Andrews, glad you're still alive. Great job
putting in that work yesterday in Toronto. That was a
(24:58):
lot of work. It was you're a busy guy yesterday
I was Toronto Radio is for sure using Ian as
a sound bite. What did I say? Did I say something.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
I think people have misconstrued when it was too daily
you said something along the lines or you were looking
ahead of the World Series?
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Hell? Yeah, it was nothing. Yeah, damn, Ron, I was
one and four. You went one and four. By the way,
it was yeah. I mean, here's the thing, it was
two all with two wins on the road. You're coming
home where you have been the best home team in
the second half of the season. That's oh yeah, yeah,
it was over. Hell yeah, who we playing the World Series?
(25:36):
I didn't think. I didn't think it was. I could
not listen. I know what our history is here, and
I know the doomsday world that we live in as
Mariner fans like get all that. I could not fathom
what happened and what you just said, And what was
the record after that one and four?
Speaker 5 (25:51):
They went one and four.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
They lost four of five games. It had been since
win June that they had done that. No, I guess
they did that. No, No, that's wrong after the trade deadline.
They had that little stretch right they went, uh.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
It was second and twenty second half of September, Yes, yeah,
six one or whatever. That was second half of augustus.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Isn't Woodworth part of the blame pie?
Speaker 5 (26:17):
And you said it, and I think you mentioned it
in the Mollywop segment. It's not just Dan, it's the
whole Staf.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Wilson leans on Winworth for in game pitching decisions. We
should have pushed harder from Munos entered the seventh inning.
I love Maniacta and Perry Hill's great to those two guys.
Perryhill and many are great on our show, great to us.
But man, I think with managing, there's it's got to
be a collective effort.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
In game.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Yes, the pre game decisions are obviously inspired or you know,
obviously influenced by more than just the manager and his
coaching staff, GMS and analytics team and all those guys.
They all have a say too. But when you get
in the heart of it, you don't see Dan. Dan
can't be on a cell phone talking to Jerry. It
doesn't work that way. So true, Dan completely wasted the
(27:06):
best catching season of all time.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
Yeah, that's why I that's what it hurts from me,
and I kind of mentioned this to you in the
break is the players did enough to win this game.
There were just so many moments that could have gone
down in Seattle Sports lower from that game seven, and
it's gonna be mostly forgotten. Like Julio with a double
and a home run in his first game seven in
his career, Kirby shoving in his third elimination game ever,
(27:34):
pitched again, WU coming out of the bullpen, coming off
an injury and dominating the lineup. JP Crawford's hurdle double play,
Josh Naylor even the funny little moments that doesn't really
make a big difference on the game, Josh Naylor getting
the way of the throw because that's just who he is,
cal Rawly owning Toronto. Still, all of those things. The
players did enough to win this game, and their manager
(27:57):
kind of let them down. I think.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Was that the worst loss in CL sports history. There's
gonna be a lot of talk about that over the
next few days. There's a lot of talk. I'm not
gonna get into it today. I just I don't want to,
but I'll let you guys do on that. You can
think about it, don't answer it right now, but you
can stew on it. I don't know, there's been a
lot too many Let's see, it's a great way to
(28:19):
put it in. There will there will be a baseball
season next year, guaranteed, just like there will be a
Thanksgiving next year. But you get to the point in
the postseason. It's the firsest thing from a guarantee. Yeah,
that's the thing I have is that when I mentioned
that in the first segment today. What saddens me. What
saddens me is this they they the Mariners, getting back
(28:45):
to this position. We have no idea if it's going
to happen again in twelve months, twenty four months, forty
eight months, or fourteen to fifteen years. We don't know. Yeah,
there's no great they had it. They they've been fairly
okay health wise. Col stayed healthy, Julio stayed healthy. I
(29:09):
don't know. Whatever, I'm gonna move on, we'll talk. I
was just say this two things. One, don't forget to
cracking ticket Tuesday. We told you about that already. The
next thing I would tell you is this, don't miss
soft the top of the hour two o'clock, we will
do Crosstock. We'll just let him do his thing. At
two o'clock with Faine, we'll come back quick thoughts on
the Seahawk game last night. We'll do that to wrap
(29:29):
things up on this Cracking ticket Tuesday.
Speaker 6 (29:35):
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Speaker 1 (29:49):
FM, Saftie and Faint coming up top of the hour.
I'll just I don't need to tease their show other
than just telling you this. I know my guy well,
and I'm assuming he's gonna have a lot to say
and be quite emotional coming up at two o'clock, So
stand to stand by for that. Krack and Hockey three
thirty pre game four o'clock drop with the puck in
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the Nation's Capital against the great hit eight Alexandrovchkin and
the Capitals. It's game five of a six game roady
Cracking losing their first game in regulation last night to
the h Where the hell were we last night? Why
can't I not remember? The Philadelphia Flyers?
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yes, they were on the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
It was a very forgettable game in a lot of ways,
very forgettable. Well, let me get to this real quick.
Seahawks last night. I mean, I can't ever even fathom
a time at KGr when the Seawks have played a
Monday night football game and someone's done fifty minutes of
radio without mentioning the Seahawks outside of headlines. That would
be me today. But that's where the Mariners were on
(30:53):
the food chain, and I'm sure that'd be the focus
of soft Ease show coming up here with Faine a
little bit. But the Seas get an important win. They
are one. And here's why it's important. You're trying to
keep pace, not just with San Francisco and the Rams
and the NFC West, but with the NFC as a whole.
There are six teams in the NFC that are at
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five and two. There is one team that's four to
one and one that's Green Bay. They're the top seed.
The next six teams are all five and two. And
the reason that Seattle's the sixth seed and the Rams
of the seventh and Tampa Bay is the fourth is
all kinds of tie breakers and all that kind of stuff.
But that's how it shakes out right now. Chicago four
and two is right there as the eight seed, and
(31:36):
so is Dallas at three to three and one. They're
not done yet either. Washington massively disappointing season three and four,
but one and four in the conference. They're not done,
but they're on life support. They're in pretty bad shape.
But this is just a really, really good conference this year,
and Seattle's in the best division in that conference. And
the most remarkable thing about yesterday in the football game,
(31:57):
and I probably the least watch Seahawks game ever, especially
in prime time, because I think by the time the
Merry game ended, it was mid like ten minutes to
go in the second quarter, and by the time that
was going on, I think a lot of people were
just in like Mariner hangover land and just trying to
figure out what the hell just happened after they got
kicked in the in the you know, you know what's
in the Jewels and the Onions. The Seahawks did everything
(32:20):
in their power to lose that football game to a
pretty decent team, and they still want And what's cool
about that is that tells you're a pretty good football
team when you do everything possible to lose four turnovers,
only two receivers caught a ball three I guess three. Technically,
whatever it was, you didn't run the ball effectively until
(32:41):
the second half, and even when you did, the guy
that was averaging five point six yards of carry in
the second half was Ken Walker, you still once again
decided not to give him the football enough. The insistence
on running Zach Charbonay is a mind boggling, a head
scratching move on Friday, I think, Jesse, I know you're
working on it. I don't know if it's confirmed, but
we're gonna probably try to do what we did last
year during the bye week. Yes, and have and have
Colles actually going to Okay, good Cosell and Hugh on together.
(33:05):
That is one of the first things I'm an ass
those two guys. What are they doing at the running
back position? I don't get it. But all of that said,
they won. And there is nothing in sports that is
more important than wins. In the NFL on a week
two week basis, because you have so few opportunities with
a seventeen game schedule, you have to win, and sitting
(33:26):
at five and two into a bye week, they are
in really good shape. And oh, by the way, they
were able to somehow get away with resting Witherspoon and
love Witherspoon, How bad are you hurt? By the way
you're jumping up and down celebrating on the sideline all
the time, Like I don't get it. That's fine, you guys,
do you? It's weird, a weird thing going on with him.
But he's going to be back and and they'll be
(33:48):
back in a couple of weeks time. They'll have to
go to Washington. But this team, damn good man, damn
good When it's all said and done at five and two,
not even playing great, Dnald had I don't want to
say his worst game, but maybe a couple worst decisions,
and they still come away with the winds. So good
for them heading into by week at five and two,
all right, we'll take a break, or not take a break.
We're gonna take a bye. We're out.
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I can see you, we miss you.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
I'll be back at some point in tracking studio. I
guess tomorrow. Back here on Thursday, anyway, softy faint on
a crack of ticket. Tuesday coming up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
Next for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable in forness.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
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