Furness Show 2-12: Coach Holmgren with Jess and Anders.

Coach is HERE! Jess and Anders talk to Mike Holmgren about the Seahawks season as a whole, the hiring of Klint Kubiak, and much more.   Former Seahawks WR Bobby Engram joins the show to talk to coach about some stories about being coached by Mike Holmgren, now coaching with DQ, and much more.   Daily Power Play.   We talk to Mike Holmgren more about his thoughts on the Super Bowl, Jalen Hurts winning MVP, and the off season schedule in the NFL, and much more.    We check the Textline as they ask coach their questions.   Softy joins for cross talk.

Episode Transcript

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Speaker 2 (00:51):
The new era of the offense is on the way.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
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Speaker 3 (01:33):
You heard the big voice Jessamine McIntyre anders Hurst with
you today, joined by Mike Holmgren, coach.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
Thank you so much for spending extra time today.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
You know, it's really nice to be here with you
and Andrews. It's a pleasant change from the guys I
usually work with.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Don't worry, he's on vacation and outlets.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
Yeah, thank you for inviting me. I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
I think that this is a really special show.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
You know, it's hard to fill shoes, but you anyone,
So thank you for being here today. And you know
we we were talking off air and listening to the
morning show or the midday show, I should say, Morning
two Afternoon with Mark James talking about Geno Smith will
have to get into that.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
But how are you right?

Speaker 3 (02:17):
Now, I know that football season is wrapping up and
we're not going to get to see as much of you.
So how would you wrap up this football season? Starting
with a Seahawks perspective, Well.

Speaker 4 (02:29):
I think the Seahawks, you know, exceeded some people's expectation,
but not their own. I think Mike and talking with
him a little bit, which is understandable the head coach
that you want to get into the playoffs, you want it,
that's your goal. And but taking over a team coming
in in his first go round at being a head coach,

(02:50):
I think he did a heck of a job and
I think people can be excited about the future. Having
said that, you know, this offseason is very important to
to fill in the gaps in some areas, I think.
But I've got a lot of confidence in him, and
he has a lot of confidence in Clint so and

(03:11):
that's important because Mike's a defensive guy, so his offensive
coordinator that'll be important. And how they get along and
how they communicate and understand each other. Yeah, that's big.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
I completely agree coach Holngrin, Jessman, McIntyre, Andershurst with you.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Ian's on vacation.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
One of the questions that I'm sure you've been asked already,
but this is the first time I've gotten to sit
down with you since.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Then. I'll start with my opinion on it.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I thought that he showed a lot of leadership in
deciding to cut ties with an offensive coordinator and Ryan Grubb.
That didn't fit what he wanted, but this is his
first time as a head coach and to do that
showed a lot of strength and leadership, and I'm sure
it was extremely hard for him. What was your first
reaction to that, and what does it say about his

(03:59):
hire of Koobiak that.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
He must have done his background.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I'm sorry that's a super loaded question, but you can
start with your reaction to the firing.

Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, if you remember the day before, I think the
day before in here, that topic came up and I said,
no way, you don't fire your offensive coordinator. I know
you did not like it after one year, and I
said that, and I qualified it by saying I never
did that. I didn't feel I had to.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Well, you didn't fire anybody, no one year.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I fired a couple of guys, But the idea of
bringing somebody in and their family moving in, I thought
it was my responsibility also to take care of them
and to make them better, not only the players but
the coaches. And so it's surprised. The next day it happened,
and I went on the radio and I said, gee,
I don't that surprised me. I wouldn't have I don't

(04:52):
do I didn't do it ever. But then I had
a chance, which was good, to talk to Mike about it,
and uh, and then you know, I wouldn't change my
mind on how I did things, but I understood why
he did it. And he's the head coach and it
has to work. And if he felt down deep that

(05:14):
the communication wasn't there and it wasn't working. Ryan Grubbs
a good coach. I think he's a good coach. And
he's a smart guy. Yeah yeah, but you know, if
you have to be able to connect there with your staff.
And so he went ahead and did it, and now
he really he went through the process of interviewing a

(05:37):
lot of people for the for the coordinator's job, and uh,
one of them, I remember one of them was a
line coach. Uh, a young man named Frehley for the
Detroit Lions. And and I said, and then I said,
how's that going? He goes, well, you know, he wants
to call the place. I said, Okay, the one thing

(05:57):
I can tell you at almost one offensive line coach
can't call the game. Don't let him call the game.
He's really good at the running game and all that,
but you have to have a lot of other things
going so. But then obviously Detroit kept him because he's
really a fine coach.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Yeah, coach, so great to have you in. Thank you
so much for joining us. It's a it's a pleasure
to talk to you. I know, normally it's it's jess
and Ian talking with you. But thank you for coming
in studio today and saying hi to everyone. And you know,
let's go to general terms with Mike McDonald just mentioned
that this was his first year as a head coach
in the NFL. How would you kind of just evaluate

(06:33):
his first season as a coach head coach in the
NFL overall?

Speaker 4 (06:36):
I think I think he gets good marks because it's
it's I it's not easy to come into a new place,
particularly if it's your first shot at being a head coach.
You know, I I tell the story often when I
went into Green Bay my first shot I had been
in the league already six years, so I had a
little more time. But we lost our first game to

(06:59):
the minut a sort of Vikings, close game overtime. Next
game we lose to Tampa Bay, get killed down at Tampa.
Third game, we play Cincinnati and we're behind, We're getting killed,
and I'm standing on the sideline going, I'm going to
be the shortest tenured head coach in the history of
the National Football League. I thought that I really got it. Yeah,

(07:20):
and then and then Farv did some miracle things and
we won that game and went on to do some
good things that first year. But the first year is hard.
Andrews it's you don't eat. And he told me, you
learn a lot because you're doing You're going from a
being a coordinator and dealing with this pile of stuff
to a head coach dealing with this and and things

(07:43):
you never thought you'd have to deal with you have
to deal with.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
So what are things that you look for when you're
evaluating a head coach, especially in his first year. You
have to come in and kind of set your culture.
You have to kind of get the players that you
want in here. And then we found out you got
to get the staff that you want in here, Sometimes
it takes some time to do all that. So what
some things that you look for for a coach to
kind of set his style for a team.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
Well, the thing had happened in the middle of the season.
Remember one of the two linebackers we had, they were gone, right,
that doesn't happen very often now, and they had signed
those guys to be their starting linebackers after Wagoner left,
and so I go, wow, you know, the defense is
his baby though, and so he just thought they had
to make the move right then. And it paid off, right,

(08:26):
it really paid off. So that was one plus. You
get a good check on that one, all right. But
also his his you know, he is very cerebral, I
would say, yeah, And unlike me where I was renting
Raymond and yelling and everybody, he's very calm on the sideline,
I think, very very systematic, and so that impressed me

(08:47):
as well.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Oh, it's really good. Coach.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Holmgren is here in studio Jessman McIntyre and andrews hurst
Ian forness on vacation.

Speaker 2 (08:55):
I wanted to go back.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
I think we'll get to Geno Smith a little bit later,
but I wanted to go back on a conversation we were
having earlier, which was off air, but about the young
coaches and where you see the evolution of coaching going
in the NFL because we are seeing people with less
experience than we used to and there's also less longevity

(09:19):
in a specific position because things just turn over a
little bit more quickly. So Mike McDonald is in the
quote unquote class of young coaches right now, and do
you think that that's good bad?

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Have opinion on what it means for the league, you.

Speaker 4 (09:36):
Know, And it struck me the same way Jess. There
are Heck, they're coming in and they're thirty six years old,
thirty five years old, right in that neck of the woods.
And you know, I thought I was pretty young when
I got my first job, and I was forty four, and.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
You were though, yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, that's a trend. And it started with Sean McVay
winning the Super Bowl as a very young guy, and
then from his staff you had three or four coaches
get jobs from his staff, and you'll see, like the
Lions they have a great year, then people are going
to go after their coaches Philadelphia as a great year.

Speaker 6 (10:18):
You know.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
One of the hardest things to do is hold on
to your coaches. Bill Bill Parcells told me that when
we were standing in the middle of the field before
a game, a preseason game, and we won the Super
Bowl the year before and we were we became friends,
and he goes, you know, the toughest thing about repeating
is is you can't hold onto your coaches. Yeah, they

(10:41):
they you got to and it's different, and that changes.
You want it to be the same, exactly the same,
but it's not. It changes with the dynamic and the personalities.
So uh, I just think there's to me, there's way
more movement than there used to be. Yes, you know,
way more movement. And I think some of the new

(11:02):
owners now is one man's opinion, they don't have it
near the same patience as some of the older owners.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Well, when you see movement, other things move too.

Speaker 4 (11:15):
Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Everybody catches up to the same pace.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
So as far as where this goes in the future,
as long as you have young coaches, Siriani, yeah, you
haven't win in Super Bowls. That's what owners look at.
And so I think this is the way it's going
to be from from for a while now.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, I do too, And I always think that things
that go a little too far in an opinion, it
could be anybody's, but things that go really far one
way self correct back to the you know, regress to
the mean if you will. But it's kind of hard to.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Know in a money maker in the NFL if that
will actually happen. But it's almost a wait and see
and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
But we have a special guest coming up.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Actually I'm not going to tell you who it is,
and I'm not going to tell anyone else who it is,
but we do have that coming up. Andrews Herrist, Jessamin
McIntyre and Mike Holmgren.

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Speaker 3 (12:40):
Welcome back in Jessamine McIntyre, andrews Hurst and the one
and only Mike Holmgren with you. There are so many
things that I want to ask you in such a
condensed amount.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Of time, and we left a little Geno smith.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Part of it hanging on the Fine and I really, like,
I said, love that conversation that Ross Stalker with Chris
Kidden and Mark James this morning, And it's almost, if
you just still it down, sounds like, well, who else
are you gonna go with situation? And in my mind it's, well,

(13:13):
everyone's going to garner that wage at this point, right,
So would you rather have a guy that is proven
or you know, go somewhere else to take another proven
as to what he is?

Speaker 7 (13:27):
Right?

Speaker 3 (13:27):
You know, it's not like he's won a super Bowl
with this team or anything, but proven to the point
he is, or you know, I guess Sam Donerald's name
is out there right now?

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Do you go to someone like that? Who is I
think at a lower level than Geno Smith? So I
don't know what more people want than Geno Smith.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, it brings up a couple of things. If first
of all, I think Geno I will hope they keep him.
I think they should keep him because to your point,
just you know, who else if you don't keep him,
who's gonna play?

Speaker 6 (14:00):
You know?

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Really, and nothing nothing comes out like you're getting a
big advantage if you don't do that. But the second
thing is the money, you know, they're they're gonna be
both sides will be thinking about that. But it seems
to me the way Mike is connected with Gino and everyone,
if you try real hard and talk to Gino, let

(14:23):
him know we really want you, but we're going to
have to just change a couple of things so that
we can build a team around you.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Yes, exactly. And I think that's where I mean.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
I myself, I'm hung up on it when it comes
as salary cap and where the money can go. The
thing is that the people that they have put in
place on the offensive line have it just hasn't really
worked out under this regime very well. I won't say
it's horrible, it's just not very well. So I think
that from the outside looking in, people are wondering, are you.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You know, robbing one spot to pay enough? They're in
someone who is not the one that will be the
only piece to take you to success.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I think I think, I don't think they have much
of a choice right now. I think, however, that you
have to be looking for the next one, be looking
for the next quarterback. Every year, I'd create a list
draft choices, one list free agents, the second list to quarterbacks,

(15:27):
and then trade possibilities quarterbacks, and if it didn't make sense,
any of them didn't make sense, you're you're you're stuck,
and you build up someplace else. If something made sense,
like when we traded for assleback, you know he was
assist round, sixth round pick out of the back for
the backers. But I really like that, and so we
did the trade and we did that stuff. If you yeah,

(15:47):
but if you find, if you believe in somebody and
see him there, then the trading part of it comes
into effect. Draft choices, Yeah, you can pick up a
great quarterback in the second round. You can pick Tom
Brady's sixth round, Mark Brunell fifth round. You know there
are guy who's there. They go to the proper team,
I think, so I think they got to work out

(16:10):
the money thing and if they can do that, and
then secondly find the next young.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
Guy, yes, yeah, exactly, someone who can learn.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
Also, we have a special voice for you coming on
the show right now.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Let's hit it.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Hasslebeck at play action steps up to avoid the.

Speaker 8 (16:27):
Rush, firing caught touchdown Bobby Ingram, and the penalty gives
Seattle a lie for the Seahawks take advantage with a
nineteen yard strike from hassleback to Ingram.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Do you remember the wide receiver in that situation.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
Bobby Ingram? Yeah, he's one of my favorites.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Well time, guess who is joining us right now?

Speaker 4 (16:47):
Really?

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Uh huh Bobby?

Speaker 4 (16:50):
Hey, how you doing?

Speaker 7 (16:52):
Man?

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Like?

Speaker 6 (16:54):
I'm doing great?

Speaker 3 (16:55):
Man?

Speaker 1 (16:55):
How are you doing?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
I'm doing great? I think back. Listen, Bobby, remember this,
But Kathy and I went on walks for his his
charity here in in uh In, Seattle, and it was
one that meet his friends and his parents. Folks. Remember that,
Remember those days?

Speaker 6 (17:12):
Oh? I remember, man? I remember. I was very grateful
you and so many needed guys and the whole entire
organization just rallied behind our calls. Man so, and that's
kind of who we were. It was. Football was one thing,
but I felt like we had a lot of good,
strong connections in a family atmosphere over there. So I'll
never forget that.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
Really, I have to tell one quick story, can.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
I This is the only reason I want right now, Bobby.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Don't don't turn me off, Bobby, you listen to this. Okay,
We're in training camp, and you know Spokane was down
the road from from Cheenie and so on their night off,
Darryl Jackson, Bobby Ingram and Corn Robinson, who was one
of my favorites but you know, kind of a wild child.

(17:57):
They went. They told me they went to the movies. Okay, okay,
they went to the movies. But they had to get back.
They had to get back. They had to get back
in time, you know, for well, they got in late.
So the next one and I'm going the next the
next day, I call him in and I'm ripping Corn,
I'm ripping Darryl. I'm looking at Bobby, and I'm going

(18:18):
the one sensible guy on this team I'm looking at
right now. You've got to take care of these guys,
all right, because I promise, I promise.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You. Bobby, did you take.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
I was taking care of him? Coach knows that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:34):
But see then you went into coaching, and you know
what I had to deal with, you.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
Know for sure, for sure, man, But those are some
good time Mike congratulates though, man and making the ring.
I know what's coming next. I know it's a little disappointing,
but well deserved. And that's on his way too.

Speaker 4 (18:53):
Bobby. I can't thank you enough, and I mean it.
When I say, you were one of the best guys
I ever had.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
Really appreciate that man, So I got a quick story.
I got a quick story as well. So when I
first got out there, you know, I left the Bears.
I was coming off of a knee injury. Things got
a little crazy out there. So I got cut, got
signed by Seattle like the next day, and you know,
of course I'm doing my research, and I knew Mike
I was in Chicago, he was in Green Bay. We

(19:19):
played against him and had a lot of respect for
what they did offensively and just as an organization. So
when I got the opportunity to go out there, my
agent was talking about this team, that team. I said,
there's no question I'm going to Seattle. So I go
out there and everything's going smooth. My first practice, I dropped.
I dropped the first pass ever thrown to me. Right
and in true homegrown fashion, I'm running back to the

(19:41):
huddle and I run by him. He goes. I thought,
they said you had great hands, and we both just laughed,
and we both just laughed about it, and I knew
everything was going to be cool after that.

Speaker 4 (19:51):
Yeah, it was, you know what, honestly, that he is
one of the young men that the reason I got
into coaching the first place and then enjoyed it so much.
Really really, Yeah, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Ingram, who is joining us right now.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I'm live here on ninety three three KJRFM with coach
Homgren Anders, sarahs Jasamin McIntyre in for the mayor, but
we're hoping that we're filling this time admirably in the
mayor's absence.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Bobby that I've gotten to know you pretty in a
short time.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
You know some friends of mine that coach in Washington
where you are now the wide receivers coach. But you
got some really good news on Friday, and I'd love
for you to share.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
It with us.

Speaker 6 (20:31):
Absolutely. I appreciate that. So, Mike, you know, remember my
daughter Bobby. You know, Bobby had a rough gold That's
why we had the walk. We started the foundation because
of Bobby and run. She ended up transitioning in twenty
eighteen and that was tough for my family, but we're
still do on our faith and we had so much love,
so much support.

Speaker 4 (20:51):
It was overwhelming.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
So fast forward to now my daughter Phoebe, who also
has sickle cell disease as well, but the difference between
her and Bobby Is. We all got tested. My son
Trey ended up being a perfect match. It had to
be a perfect blood match. And she had a bone
maryle transfusion last Friday, and we just brought her home
on Monday, and she's excellent. She's doing she's doing the phenomenally.

(21:17):
She's healthy, she's whole, she's healed, and we're just thankful
for that.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
Hey, you know, thank you for sharing that. She will
be in our prayers. I promise you.

Speaker 6 (21:26):
I appreciate that, man. And it's a lot of people
from people all over the country have been hitting us up.
People out of the country. Me and my wife have
such a strong community and people that are believers and
that love the Lord and that have supported us football,
but family and off the fields meant more to me
than anything. And just a lot of cool people in

(21:47):
the DMV that have been supportive and instrumental in us
helping us get to this stage, which has been a journey.
But I'm happy for Phoebe. She's she's an unbelievable young lady.
She's so strong and so determined and now she gets
to have a completely different quality of life. So we
were able to do that with a lot of the
folks at Children's National and DC.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
This is absolutely wonderful to hear and we will definitely
be talking in the future, you and I and when
you talk about football and family. For me, it's one
in the.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
Same football as family in my heart and mind, and
I think it is well obviously to you and your family.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
I think Coach could agree with that with.

Speaker 3 (22:24):
His I want to one congratulate you and your wife
and your family on everything that is positively happening, but
also I want to know when football became family to you, Bobby,
And I'll let Coach talk about that afterwards.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
When it became family to me in general or in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Uh, either one dealer's choice.

Speaker 6 (22:49):
Yeah, I'll stay with Seattle, But I mean football and
me the way I grew up in South Carolina, Like
you grew up with the guys. You played Pop Warner,
you played middle school, you played high school. So to me,
those bonds in terms of how I grew up, those
guys I still talk to to this date. That's why
I fell in love with the game, because of the
guys and because of the type of teams that I

(23:11):
played on growing up, you know, and going to Penn
State was another part of that. But when I got
to Seattle, just the locker room, you know, the talent
that we had, but also just the locker room. Man Like,
we hung out a lot every Friday, couples. We would
go out to dinner, we would go bowl, and we
would hang out together. And you saw that team really

(23:32):
jail from when I got there in two thousand and one,
you kept seeing it bill till we finally won the
division in O four. And I think a big part
of that. Obviously we had talented guys and guys we
were growing up and mature, but I also think we
had a different connection in that locker room and guys
really cared about each other, and you know, and and
you play different for guys when it's like that, and

(23:53):
you could call guys out, nobody would get offended. You
would have an argument and it was like, Okay, I
hear what you're saying. So it was it was it
was one of those situations where you were accountable, guys
held you accountable, You worked hard, and you didn't want
to let anybody in that locker room or on that
coaching staff down. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
That sounds like a family to me.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, sure, does you know. And I one of the
best things I ever did was I established a player's committee,
you know, And and there were times when I didn't
think they were listening to me on occasion, so I'd
go to the players committee and try and convey that
what I wanted to say to them, and then have
them tell the people in the locker room. And that

(24:31):
group we had in Seattle was the best. They really were.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Bobby on it.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Bobby was on it.

Speaker 5 (24:37):
What was that like?

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (24:41):
It was it was It was like Mike said, you
got an opportunity to guys to speak their speak their
their hearts. And there was nobody getting offensive or defensive.
And and Mike you know, uh, you know, you know,
know Mike's intense. He can get intense, right and when
when he wants to get a pointed across, you know,
he's going to speak your passion. U uh And you
see that, you see it on the sideline. But I

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think that's why we were able to work well together. Quietly.
I was an extremely intense player, very competitive, and I
fed off of that intensity, and I know a lot
of our guys did as well. But but you know,
the committee was just one of where we could hear
Mike and we and there was legitimate he was our leader,
but there was also guys on that team that had
been around, that had had done some things, and we

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it was an opportunity for us to have some discussions
and really figure out what was the best for the team.
But also, like Mike said, just make sure that that
we needed to keep the team headed in a in
a specific direction.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
Bobby, I'm sure you know this, but you know, for
for eight years, nine years, Walter Jones never said one word,
not one word to me. And and now he's a
he's a he's a radio star. He just can't he
can't stop him from talking. Did you know that?

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Well?

Speaker 6 (25:56):
I did know that. I keep up with Walton everything
about the Seahawks as much as I can. He didn't
talk to many people. I would get him to talk,
but he didn't say much at all. He just did
his job. And that's but Tobeck was the mouthpiece of
everybody up there.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
You know that.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Oh, yeah, I do know that. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
They needed to get back to Mike. It was Tobec
was the guy.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh man, that's a tricky situation to me.

Speaker 7 (26:25):
Oh uh.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
He relished that he relished that. He relished that role,
trust me.

Speaker 2 (26:30):
Yeah, I know Toback well and he does like to talk,
so yeah, given the opportunity, I can see him doing that.
Bobby Ingram joining coach Holme, Grin, Andrew Sers Jessaman McIntyre here.
As we wrap things up, though, you got to tell
us about one of our favorites. How is it going
with dan Quinn?

Speaker 3 (26:48):
You guys had an unbelievable run this year, over over
delivered with low or we didn't know expectations. I don't
think there were expectations on a new team with new ownership,
a new head coach and rookie quarterback. How was it
out there in Washington this year despite the exit of
the playoffs, which you ended in the NFC Championship.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
I mean, you got to be happy about getting there,
right yeah.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
I mean obviously only one team is going to be
happy right now. That's the Eagles, and and you know,
hats off to them. They had a great year and
we did battle. You know, we won one, lost one
and then we lost another. So that was a tough deal.
But in terms of, you know, just the situation and
how it turned over here, it's rare that you have
changed with an owner, change in GM and a change

(27:38):
with the head coach. So you know, our owner, mister Harris,
did a phenomenal job of identifying you know, Adam Peters
and Adam and Adam and hired Dan Quinn and d
q's the unquestionable leader and just the unbelievable man and
how he goes about his business, how he relates to people.
And the big thing is he established the coach and

(27:59):
there was a brother hood where we had a lot
of fun. You know, we worked really hard, but we
had a lot of fun. And it was and it
was like that family atmosphere that I talked about when
I played in Seattle that as a coach, that's the
closest thing that I've seen and been around. It was
a lot of fun. But but the guys, the coaching staff,
everybody on the staff bought in and these players, this

(28:22):
team was a lot of fun to coach because they
were selfless, They worked really hard, They truly cared about
each other, and they held each other accountable. And they
went out and they played the game the right way.
We played hard, we played fast, we played physical, and
you know that was the standard. No and nobody gave
us much of a chance. But we knew what we

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had in the locker room, and we knew if we
just played well enough that we would give ourselves a chance.
And the young, young, young Jaden is special, you know,
Jayden Daniels is a special talent and even more special
person just the way he carries himself.

Speaker 4 (28:58):
You know, Bobby, when I go home this evening, I'm
gonna tell Kathy guess who I got the chance to
talk to today, And and then I'll tell Bobby Ingram
and she'll go, oh, how's the family. She'll you know,
she'll ask all those It won't be a football question.
It'll be all about the family. And you remember the
walk we went on and all that kind of stuff.
So this is a real, real pleasant surprise. I wish

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you all the best in Washington, and you know, our
time together I'll never forget it. So it was Thank
you very much.

Speaker 6 (29:30):
I appreciate it, Mike. Is a pleasure to be able
to talk to you and catch up man. And that
was the best thing that happened to me coming to
Seattle and those eight years and being able to play
in that offense with you and Gil and Nolan and
all of the guys, the coaches, but the players. Man,
I still talk to a lot of the players. I
still talk to the team chaplain Carl. What you built

(29:52):
there was special and I was I was blessed to
be a part of that.

Speaker 4 (29:55):
Thank you, sir, appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
Washington to Washington, Bobby in, Mike home, grin and don't worry.
I'll share his details with you. I'm sure you guys
can get in touch, right, Bobby.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
Yeah, you got my number right. Make sure Mike s
hasn't changed. That I have one, but I need to
make sure it's still the same.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, I know he's got burners all over the place.
This coach, thank you show.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Thank you so much coach for joining us and coach,
I really appreciate your time, and seriously, best of your family.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
Will we will stay in touch.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
I appreciate that you guys take care and have a
good day.

Speaker 4 (30:30):
Thank you, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
That was really, really awesome.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
I got in contact with Bobby and decided that while
you were in here for a little extended time that
I would at least bring someone on that you like.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
You know what, that was really nice. Thank you. I
can't thank you enough because I meant what I said
to him. I mean it really he's a special He
was a special player and a special person, and I
don't forget that time when he was here. It was
really said. That meant.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
It sounds like you guys very much agree with each
other on who each other is. And that's a beautiful thing.
And we're very lucky to have you both today, and
you're gonna have to keep on talking. So we'll give
everybody a little.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Bit of a break and we're gonna keep you here.
It's just a McIntyre Andrew Thurs thing. Coach Mike ho
grin with you right here. We'll be right back.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
We got four nations break right now, so we'll do
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we'll just get back into it because we have some
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Speaker 4 (31:58):
We've been waiting for can't you FM?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Welcome back in not Ian Furness, Jessamin McIntyre anders Hurst
andres how we doing today?

Speaker 5 (32:08):
Good?

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Good?

Speaker 5 (32:09):
How are you just you know what, I'm.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Feeling really good? We always given coach comes in, you know,
I know, it just lifts the spirits around here. Coach
Holme Grin is in with us and the Kraken have
a little bit of a break with the Four Nations
face off going on, and I believe tonight at five
pm Eastern time is the first game.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
I think we have Canada Sweden.

Speaker 2 (32:30):
Yes, yeah, Andrews, you have more knowledge on this than
I do.

Speaker 5 (32:34):
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to say I have
more knowledge. I just like follow across hockey a little
bit closer. But it's it. Normally we would have the
All Star break right about now, and with a lot
of the sports All Star kind of formats changing every
single year, they're trying to find stuff that works, and
I think this is one of the coolest things. In
the middle of the year, they get a two week

(32:55):
break every team from the NHL does, and then they
represent four of the biggest hockey cunes in the world,
which is Canada, USA, Sweden and Finland, and all the
best players from the NHL on those four teams are
you know, joining up with our countries almost like they
call it best on best, But it's kind of like
a tune up for the Olympics coming up next year,

(33:17):
which will also come around this time, so it's kind
of a tune up for that, and they're gonna take
it like super seriously because it's if you're representing your country.
So I think that's really really cool. I think the
Pro Bowls falling way off. The NBA All Star is
still okay at the Dunk Contest maybe, but nah MLB
All Star Game is pretty and cool still, but that's
about it, And I think this is will probably jump

(33:38):
up to my favorite all start competition if they continue
to do this, because like I said, it's a lot
of the other ones can turn up to be exhibitions,
but this is where you know you're representing your country.
It's like all the players are all in on it.
It's like no one's no one's sitting it out because
they have like a slight nick here and there. It's
almost more important than some of the maybe if you're
on a team where it's out of the playoff race,

(33:59):
this is more more important than than your actual NHL team.
So I'm super excited for it, and you know, there's
a lot of rivalries. USA. Canada is a big one.
I think Finland. Sweden's also another big one, and they're
both have all star teams, so it should be a
really really fun tournament. First game tonight, Canada versus Sweden.
Canada is probably the favorite, I would say, slightly over

(34:22):
the US overall, but I think honestly, any of the
four teams can win it.

Speaker 6 (34:27):
Well.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
What I like about this specifically is the excitement it's
bringing around the sport. And there are certain sports that
and I mean no offense or anything, but when it
comes to soccer, for incident, I don't follow it as
closely as I do when it comes to the Olympics,
and so yeah this, yeah, I'm sorry, the World time,
yeah yeah, but the you know, Olympic sports. I get

(34:52):
very into hockey when it comes to the Olympics. And
you know, I've lived out here for many years without
a hockey team here, so I feel like, especially even
though we're you know, a couple of years in now,
when it comes to hockey being here in the NHL,
I think there's.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
Room to recreate or and create more passion for the sport.
Do you think that this is something that could do that.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Absolutely. I think there's a lot of people that just
watch soccer when World Cup comes around, and it generates
excitement for it. So it really does, and I think
this could be one of those instances where you know,
maybe you haven't followed the NHL super closely, but you
know you're you're a big USA Pride person and you
watch like watching teams represent your country, so you check
it out. USA Versus Canada. Canada has dominated the international team,

(35:40):
but USA NHL teams have dominated the actual league. In
the NHL. The Canada Canadian team hasn't won the Stanley
Cup since nineteen ninety three.

Speaker 6 (35:48):
I believe.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Yeah, I mean it's pretty pretty dank cool. But I
have a question for coach.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Hmmm, yeah, Reddy coach.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Do you happen to follow any hockey and if not,
what sports sides football do you watch the most of them?

Speaker 4 (36:03):
I follow hockey a little bit, Okay, a little bit.
You know, I'm taking We're going to the Cracker game
in March fourth. There you go, taking the whole family,
So that'll be fun. My family, though, is crazy hockey people.

Speaker 5 (36:16):
Really.

Speaker 4 (36:16):
Yeah. My son in law grew up in near Detroit,
and so the Red Wings and tell me, oh, listen,
he's out of his mind. And my daughters now all
of a sudden talking about players and what their strengths
are and how they can go here, I go, really,
you know. So, but I enjoy what I'm amazed when
I watch them play, and particularly in person, I'm amazed

(36:40):
at the speed and what they can do. Now, I've
tried the roller ice skate, not for a few years,
but when I was younger, I wasn't very good. No,
and I fall down a lot. I don't know how
they do it. So, but what do I watch? I watch?

Speaker 3 (36:58):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (36:58):
No, I like Call of Sports, you know, I like,
but like I like it when it gets to the playoffs.
Baseball I can kind of follow during the year NBA,
not until the playoffs really right, you know, and things
like that. So then I coached track in high school.
So when when the Olympics, like you mentioned the Olympics
and and different track track things I like to involve

(37:22):
get involved in.

Speaker 5 (37:22):
Now, so to international tournaments where you're representing countries, does
that interest you a little bit more as a as
a maybe a casual fandom.

Speaker 4 (37:29):
Yeah, it does.

Speaker 5 (37:30):
Like hockey.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, it's particularly a sport like hockey. Now, the
thing that I don't understand. You explain it to me
that in soccer. Yeah, uh, you get you get a
guy who's a good soccer player for the Sounders. Yes,
then all of a sudden he leaves and goes someplace
and place someplace, then comes back. Yeah, how does that work?

Speaker 5 (37:51):
It's okay. Ian asked me the same question, so you're
not alone on this. Oh really Yeah. So the MLS season,
which is the American League, their season goes at the
same time as a lot of the international competitions. But
like the European all the best leagues in the world,
they stop for like when the countries are all playing,
so they don't have to the best players don't have

(38:12):
to leave their team and while they're still playing games.
So it's it's there's some scheduling stuff. I think the
MLS is trying to fix that so the play best
players on the team can still play for the team
when you're playing important games that are leading up to
the playoffs and such. So, uh, yeah, it is. It's
it's been a weird one. I think a lot of
because MLS runs during the summer and the European leagues

(38:32):
go during like the school years, they go fall to spring.
But yeah, I mean it's it's it's can be confusing,
I know, because there's a lot of competitions too.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
So yeah, and then and then soccer they don't score
as much as I would like that. You know that
they were saying the game was one to two to
one one and nothing allows a great game.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Really yea, As an offensive coach like you, I'm sure
that would frustrate you. Sometimes it's like, can you guys
like score?

Speaker 3 (38:59):
I love the intersecting opinions on the way that sports
happened because I was football, one played volleyball, and that
scoring system it just doesn't compare to anything that is
in the major kind of kind of yeah, I mean
technically rally scoring, Yeah, that has some similarities anyway.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
But you know when it comes to the Olympics and
you mentioned volleyball, yeah, that's there are certain sports you
just you're in awe of the athlete exactly like wow,
how did she or he do that?

Speaker 3 (39:33):
Right?

Speaker 4 (39:34):
And so that's fun for me.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
I like to watch that or like Ashley, you know
in the Morning Show, she's a big water polo.

Speaker 4 (39:40):
Yeah, how do they do that?

Speaker 2 (39:45):
And saying I lifeguarded for eight years and I could not.
I would drown playing water polo. I had to save people,
and I still would drown playing water pool.

Speaker 6 (39:57):
You know what.

Speaker 4 (39:58):
I went to s C and SO, and we known
for the football program, but also the water polo program.
And certain those guys went to the Olympics. They were
so good, and they used to hang out. The football
players and the water polo guys would hang out. Oh no,
and I go why, I mean, I, you know, with
a certain group because they were all kind of cranky.

(40:20):
They were all kind of this is all right, this
is this is the stuff that goes on underneath the
surface of the water in a water polo game.

Speaker 3 (40:29):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, there's As the Internet evolved, I
was burdened by seeing some unfortunate recordings of some of
those things.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
So I understand what you're talking exactly.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
You know, you appreciate it. It's like Rugby, what goes
on in there? Rugby?

Speaker 3 (40:47):
You know, you're just lucky. It's a scrum. I'll just
say that that you can't really see. Coach Holmgren is
in studio with us right now. Andrews Hurst, Jessamin McIntyre,
Mayor of Mapra Valley, Maper Valley, Ian Furness. The Mayor
is out today, hopefully enjoying his vacation. And we'll be

(41:08):
right back with Coach Holmgren. This is ninety three point
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Klint Kubiak introduced as the Seahawks new offensive coordinator yesterday
alongside Mike McDonald.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
The new era of offense is underway here.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Reportedly, former Mariners all star Ti France has landed a
new home free agent deal with the Minnesota Twins that
is a non guaranteed major league deal.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
It places.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
The Equity Baseball client on the forty man roster and
reportedly pays him about a million dollars if he breaks
camp with the team. So we root for time hope
he does well and I love a good comeback story.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Youth hockey parent. This was an unfortunate story.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
The youth hockey parent who is accused of assaulting two
teen referees during a match over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
He has been charged with two counts of.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
Assault and in a statement from officials with the Kraken
Community ice Plex, they are deeply disappointed in the behavior
caught on camera and are cooperating with the investigations so
we'll find out what happens. They are also in the
NFL Chief Star tight end Travis Kelsey says he's going
to take some time to decide on his future in

(42:45):
the NFL. Honestly, Travis, I think he's earned that time
and he and he and Taylor can just go on
out somewhere and do whatever they want to.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Shake it off. He did say that on the Yeah
I did it? Okay, that was for Augustina the swifty
in your Family Anders wife. Yeah, huge, totally yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
Anyway, he did say that on the New Heights podcast.
So he just said he's not making any crazy decisions soon.

Speaker 2 (43:11):
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Speaker 3 (43:46):
You heard it, Mike Congren, Yes he is in here.
Ian Furness with the day off, the rest of the
week off, andrews.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Hers full two hours of Mike Today.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
The full two hours. It is the best.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
You get a hot about emails, you'll get highly doubt that.
Where where do you go bring about you know, we'll
like jessin Anders But what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Yeah, yeah, I doubt you'd be at the top of
the list of who they don't want. Yeah, I don't
want to hear from I would be on the top
of it. So I'll take that from you. Okay, you
got it.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
But no, we are really privileged because we know we
won't see you for a while and you need your
time off as well. So Andrews and the three of
us were talking in the break about, you know, the
Super Bowl just ended, and I think Andrews had some
really good insight and thoughts about what actually happened in
the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (44:37):
I know we're days removed at this point, but I
liked what you had to say.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
It's our first time to talk to coach. So yeah,
overall thoughts, were you surprised at how it went down?
I'm sure you're surprised at the extent in which the
Chiefs lost, but I don't know. I kind of went
in thinking that the Chiefs were slight favorites, but I
thought it'd be close game no matter what. But to
see that was a huge surprise for me.

Speaker 4 (45:00):
It was a surprise to me too. But the Chiefs
season had many, many, many one score games, but they won.
They won most of the time. In fact, they lost
the last game of the year, but they didn't play
any of their players. So you have a fifteen and
one season. Basically, you know you're a good football team.

(45:21):
Now Philadelphia is going to be their talented too, and
you saw that. You saw that in the particularly offense
and defensive lines. But having said that, the Chiefs always
found a way to win, so I thought it would
be a very close game, and then I would always
I was always bet on my friend Andy Reid to
be the difference maker. And then Patrick Mahomes has always

(45:43):
been really good in those situations. So it surprised the
heck out of me. It really did.

Speaker 5 (45:48):
So do you think it was more I guess you
could say it's both. But do you think it was
more a story of how poorly the Chiefs played or
how well the Eagles played.

Speaker 4 (45:58):
I'm going to say that how well the Eagles play,
I think that what happened, in my opinion, is that
the Eagles could harass Mahomes with four guys. They didn't
blitz the whole game. Yeah, they rushed four men. And
then even when Patrick would sometimes take advantage of teams
that did that by running, they had they had such

(46:22):
discipline in their pass rush that when he tried to go,
they squeezed him, they tackled him. Okay, and they they
got off to a poor start. Kansas City did it
on the other On the flip side, the Eagles got
off in a really good start, and then when the
interception happened. You know, you kind of sensed, boy, this
is going to be a long this is going to

(46:43):
be hard.

Speaker 5 (46:43):
Yeah, and that when you said discipline, that immediately made
me think coaching, right, because that's all in the preparation
about you know what, you got to stain what you're
supposed to do, especially on the defensive end, when all
you're doing is reacting to what's in front of you.
So and I was surprised by that because I think
one of the biggest questions for me was like, if
you look at the comparison between the two head coaches
and the two quarterbacks, Sirianni versus Andy Reid, I give

(47:07):
it very heavy edge to Andy Reid. And then Dale
Hurts versus Patrick Mahomes. I think just by that alone,
I thought that would be the difference in the game,
and it turned out to be the opposite. Both the
Eagles of those two equations were far superior in that game.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
Yeah, but you know Andrews the Okay, you're talking about
the two head coaches, right, Well, that Syrianne doesn't call
the offense, right, Okay, they had the young man who's
going to be the Saints coach. Okay, Andy, so they
had different responsibilities. But Andy has shown a propensity to
win those close games. He's done so well, you know,

(47:43):
but you got to give Sirianni credit for how he
handled his whole football team. But you know, Patrick mahomes
A didn't have a very good game, and you just
expect him to play better than he played. And there
are reasons for that, the pressure and things like that.
But uh, and then Travis Kelcey, who normally lights it up,

(48:05):
was almost a non factor.

Speaker 6 (48:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:08):
I saw some people losing their mind over that in
the betting realm.

Speaker 4 (48:11):
Yeah, I mean, so you know, you go into the
super Bowl and you're you're you want to peek at
the right time. You don't want to pick it too early.
It's two weeks and uh, you know, you just hope
and pray that your your your team plays up to
their potential and play it plays a good game.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
And he talked to Andy Reid.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Yet you know, I'm giving him a space right now.
That's probably no, but I will, I will eventually. I
always do. I always reach out to him a little
bit afterwards and and make sure he's doing okay. But
and he will. He look at he bounces back he's
he's he's really a fine football coach and really a
good coach, and uh so he'll bounce back.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
So I think one of the big narratives coming out
of that game was Jalen Hurts. And you know, there's
a lot of talking whether he should have won Super
Bowl MVP. People talk about it Super Bowl MVP a lot.
I don't think it's the team performance, but because of
how well the defense played, a lot of people were
thinking it should have been someone from the defensive side
of the ball. And a lot of people kind of
think that just because Joen Hurts had such good protection

(49:09):
and you know, he was playing from in front the
entire game, it makes his job a lot easier. Were
you is that something you're thinking about when you're thinking
about Jalen Hurts his performance or were you as impressed
as Evidently a lot of people thought that when he
was named Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
No, I thought he played a very fine football game. Okay,
but you know he was surrounded by really good people. Okay,
that's right, but he I think it was seventeen for
twenty one, over two hundred yards passing, and then he
made some great runs. I mean, he just played a
really good football game. Yeah, and so you know when
the voting comes and as you know this better anybody,
the quarterback's going to get more looks than a defensive

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end right or a linebacker, right, you know, even though
even though a shoot I think number nineteen, which one
was that sweat?

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Is that sweats?

Speaker 8 (49:57):
Well?

Speaker 5 (49:57):
Yeah, he played really.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
Well against Sonny who is there left tackle? We should
have been a starting Let you know, he's there, all
pro left guard right a playing left tackle. It was
a bad day for him. It was, I mean, he
just and you could see that or watching the game
and one of my daughters goes, dad, number nineteen, I said, well,
it's the defensive end. What's he the left tackles having

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a real problem because he's just get pushed right back
into the quarterback.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
You could actually physically tell that.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Yeah, sometimes you only from your eyes you can see that,
but yeah you could for me mediocrity eyes, I could
see it.

Speaker 4 (50:35):
Well you often, you know, And so that was part
of it, and he should have been considered a little
bit in the n the quarterback is gonna.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Win, Yeah, And I think if you like, compare what
you expected him from him to play to what he
actually did. There There could be a lot said that,
you know, because of how well he played. That's why
they won by so much, because he expected the defense
to play well right, right, right, and.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
You know he has I think turned the course of
the year. You know, he'd have games every once in
a while where, you know, Barkley, he didn't have to
be lights out right, but Barkley only had fifty something
yards on twenty five carries. So Kansas City then one
of the reasons that I think Hurts had did what
he did is that Kansas City said we got to

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stop Barkley, we have to stop Barkley, and they did, right.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Do you think they went all in on that and
that's what opened things up though?

Speaker 4 (51:28):
Absolutely, Yeah, I think that's the we'll and then we'll
we'll try and do the rest of the stuff and
we'll rally and we can do that, but we have
to stop Barkley and they did, but they didn't. You
couple the turnovers with what you know Hurts did, and
you had that type of game.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, So MVP well deserved, I believe so.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
I would say so I did too.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
The other side of that coin, too, is that you
know Jalen is getting knocked because of the successful people
he has around him, because of all the talent around him.
But I mean, what more does the kid have to do?
But what more does he have to do?

Speaker 3 (52:03):
He you know, technically got surpassed by to at Alabama, right,
so he had to transfer and that was before the nil,
so he earned zero from doing that, and then basically
was an afterthought. And then he he's with the Eagles
and he wins the Super Bowl and people are tashing
on him after the fact that he just won a

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super Bowl ring.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
I just don't understand.

Speaker 5 (52:26):
He's bend to two.

Speaker 4 (52:29):
He almost won the first one. Yes, yeah, you know,
he's no Listen, people that do that don't understand the
game all that well, I would say another one that
falls into that category is not as physical as rock Party.
Yeah you know, yeah, he's he came in I think
his first sixteen games in the league he won fifteen
or something, right, and part of the reason, part of
the reason is that of the people around him. Oh

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but that's not the only reason. Right, he was accurate,
he was smart, he'd make good decisions, and so yeah,
I would take anything away from Hurts on this stale.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Yeah, it's weird. It almost seems like, but those two guys,
people look for reasons to think that they're not as
good as they have shown that they are.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
But also the reason, well, especially when you mentioned Rock Purdy,
the reason they can build successfully around him has to
do with the fact that he came at a lower
priced actually, and so you're gonna demean a guy for
getting paid less than your star quarterbacks for allowing them
to build around Like, I just don't understand it.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I mean, no one.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
The only thing that people talked about Russell Wilson in
that way was that he was too short, right, Nobody
said he's only successful because.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
Of Marshall Ninch.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Maybe a lot of people had to eat crow on
him because they were like Pete carroll'son saying why are
they starting him? But it was the same deal until
he got his next contract. The rookie deal they had
with him in the third round allowed them to build
around him.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
So, yeah, that's such a good point, and that's what
we talked about earlier. Would you you know, yes, you know,
if you're gonna have to juggling the money, juggling the
money is a tough thing, and you need really smart
people with you to do that. But I would do
I would say this, and I had really smart guys
around me, the money people. But we started with this

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is the roster I want, no salaries, don't put salaries
on the board. This is the roster I want. Now
put the salaries on the board. And now okay, we're
twenty million over. Okay, now you're trying, but this is
still the roster I want. So you're smart, You're a
money guy turning this out.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
So you know, I need people like that around me.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
Stop buying eggs, you know, just to do That's the
kind of money I have, is worrying about eggs. But
that is that's really interesting, and that actually I wanted
to transition to what is happening now right because those
conversations are happening. It's the off season, super Bowls over.
I'm sure those conversations were already happening to, you know,
with people who.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
Were in the postseason. But you're a coach home grid,
what are you doing right now at this time of year.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
I'm sitting on a beach in Hawaii.

Speaker 2 (55:11):
Oh my goodness, I'm so jealous.

Speaker 4 (55:12):
Yeah, no, I think I think everyone does it differently.
But yeah, and it might be it's a different listen.
I haven't coached in a long time, but everyone kind
of did it the same way because I remember seeing
other coaches in Hawaii other you know, oh yeah, you know,

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but you know you you finished the season. Whenever you
finish the season. Then personally, I always needed a as
Kathy would say, I got to bring you back into
the real world and re entered. And that takes some time.
So we'd go somewhere. We'd go somewhere, and typically it
was about two or three weeks. Then you come back.

(55:56):
You come back, you have your meeting with your coaches,
and then you start in on the off season. You
don't have a lot of time, but you started in
on the off season. You're starting preparing for the draft,
you start looking at film, you're having meetings like that.
You're also looking at free agency. So you're looking to
change your roster if need be, and how are you

(56:18):
going to do that? You're going to lose some players. Okay,
how are you going to do that? And that takes
a lot of work. When I was in Green Bay,
Ron Wolf, who was the general manager who hired me,
was excellent. He was one of the best ever and
for prior to the draft, so you're talking about February March,

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we'd have meetings eight hours a day, wow in the
film room, all the scouts, all the coaches looking at film.
They turn a film off on say you know, Brett Favre,
and then it was open for discussion. The scouts of talk.
Coach would talk. Ron would listen, you know and be

(57:02):
like that not everyone does it that way, but there
is a time frame where you do it that way.
Then the draft comes. Then what happens after you got
your players. Now you're merging your free agents, your draft
choices and everything, and you're starting to form the team
for your mini camps and things like that. Now, the
mini camps and the timing is different now than that.
We used to be able to actually play some football

(57:25):
during the mini camps and stuff. Now you know, there's
no there's no pads. There's walkthroughs there. Yeah, they got
all the pads and everything. You have the analytic guys
with the glasses on the sidelines and going no, don't
do that, you know, but it's different now. But there
is a timeline to get you ready for this season,

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and it I don't think that's changed dramatically. But as
then you approach and you got some time off in
the summer, and then then you're then you're back in.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
It because it goes rookies and then regular right rookies
in earlier.

Speaker 4 (58:00):
Yeah, they come in earlier. Yeah, and then you have
the you know you and you hope in those days
you had to show up.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Oh yeah, I forgot about that little you actually have to.

Speaker 4 (58:14):
You have some really good players not showing up.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, how does that? How does that hurt the chemistry?

Speaker 4 (58:21):
It can't hurt the chemistry, I should say effect. Yeah
it can, and it can affect the chemistry. It can
affect actually feelings between coaches and players. Sometimes players and players.
You know, I think some guys under Walter Jones as
an example, I.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Wasn't gonna say, but no, no, I think we it's
well known he didn't come in.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
He wanted in contracts anyway, he didn't come in. But
I never worried about Walt.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
You knew who would show up eventually.

Speaker 4 (58:50):
I knew what he was doing. I never worried about him.
Certain guys didn't show up. I worried about him, okay,
because they were maybe they acted up a little bit
more than Walter or they they you know, they're they're kind.

Speaker 5 (59:02):
Of wild children, were not as reliable.

Speaker 4 (59:04):
Yeah, that's a good way to put it on. Ye,
that's not the language I would use when no, but
you know they so, you know, yes, to your point, Jess,
I think it could now. It was my job not
to let it, you know, that's the coach's job. So yeah,

(59:25):
but it's an interesting thing. I loved listen. I loved
every minute of it though, you know, I really did.
And and uh, you know, coaching is fun.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Well, you're still schooling us, so thank you for being here.
You're teaching us more and more every day.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
And I can say that every player that I've ever
spoken to who played under you feels exactly the same
way about you and I that is a special.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Coach, even Robbie Tobec.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Yeah, especially Robbie.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yes, yeah, I think I think you guys have like
a scared of each other thing going on. Though. But uh,
when I was sitting with him at.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
The holiday, Bolie was so excited to hear because you know,
he's a flower to now and he didn't know that
you were doing work with us, and was extremely excited
and I said, well, I'm gonna send him a selfie.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Yeah, and I did.

Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You did, Yes, I did, and yes, Robbie has nothing
but nice things.

Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
Well, he looked very happy stuggling up with you. He
looked very happy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
I think it was the libation that gave him that face.
But I was actually doing a radio show at the time,
so I couldn't partake until afterwards, which I definitely did. Okay,
Coach Holme grin anders Hurst, Dane with Jessamin McIntyre. Here
Mayer is out today.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
Ian Furness well deserved vacation and we have some questions
rolling in on the text line.

Speaker 5 (01:00:41):
Send him into our voice chat too, if you know
how to do that. It's on the iHeartRadio app. Just
hit the red microphone, send in a question for coach. Yes, well,
play a few of them if we can get to
it by the next segment.

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
And if you don't want your voice heard today, which
everyone should, you can text us at four nine, four
or five one when it's game time.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
It's totally time. Jessmine was going to say that, tell
you to Yes, I knew it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Okay, We'll be right back with some of your thoughts again.

Speaker 3 (01:01:06):
Jessamine McIntyre, andrews Has and Coach Home Grin ninety three
three KJRFM, Welcome back in Ian finished show, Jessamine McIntyre,
Andrewsurs and Coach Home Grin. And you heard the horseback

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riding music and that only means one thing.

Speaker 7 (01:01:31):
And your voice sounds a lot different. Man, what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Oh it's great. I'm happy to be here with Jess and.

Speaker 7 (01:01:37):
Oh there he is. Yeah, worst coaches coach there too.
I just hear I and I hear Jess. Where's Mike homework?

Speaker 5 (01:01:42):
I don't hear it right where?

Speaker 7 (01:01:43):
Oh there you go?

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
Yeah, I just tried to sound different.

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
Voice sounds different.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
Where are you? Where are you? I wanted to see you.

Speaker 7 (01:01:50):
I'm in your family room right now, are you Yeah,
waiting for you to get home.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
Okay, see you tomorrow.

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
It's a five twenty bar and girl. We're at the
emeral Queen Casino. You know who Nicky Glacier is by
the way, Yeah, we're going to see her tonight at
eight o'clock.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
You're going to that show we are? Thanks for the tickets.

Speaker 7 (01:02:05):
Yeah, Well you know you didn't ask what do you
want from me? I can't read your mind.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
It's a really good point. It's only because I ask
you for any tickets available ever at EQUC. But that's fine.

Speaker 7 (01:02:15):
You know what you got to do if you want
to go to a show, you have to communicate.

Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
You know what one thing you had? You had a
Super Bowl party at the the mL Cream right, Yes,
we were here on so you know what I never knew.
No one ever mentioned that to me.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
Well, you want to come down? Would you have come
down if I would have invited you. No, there's no
chance you would have come down. You were with You're
with the family. The family party, Yeah, up on Comino,
Is that right?

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
No, it wasn't a comino. But you know the problem
was that during the game, everyone was talking talking to
then when the commercials would come on, they go, everyone
be quiet, right, and we'd have to watch the commercial. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
Well see, so we give away little cash prizes at
the end of each quarter. And when I say little,
I mean one thousand dollars to two people winning five
hundred bucks each. And what I would you to do
is I would used to jump on between the time
the commercial break ended and the time the play begun
or play started again. Yeah, I would take like that

(01:03:11):
thirty five to forty seconds and give away the winner
announced the winner because people get mad when you talk
over the commercials. Right now, they don't even want me
talking at all. Now. They just have a big you
know screen where they draw the winners' names and they
put them up on the wall and you can check
and see if you've won. So yeah, I mean people
are way more into the commercials the halftime show. I mean,
you heard the ratings for the game. It was the
highest rated super Bowl of all time, one hundred and

(01:03:32):
twenty six million people. But did you see the ratings
for the Kendrick Lamar halftime show?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
No.

Speaker 7 (01:03:37):
One hundred and thirty three million people.

Speaker 4 (01:03:39):
Yeah, well, you know what, you know what it seemed like.
You know what it seemed like to me though, that
the halftime was longer, The time between for the first
quarter of the second lor longer. Everything's longer. I had
bigger gaps, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:03:53):
Well, how long is the halftime show? Like forty five
minutes at the Super Bowl? Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Oh?

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
Fifteen minutes? For me, it's like fifteen minutes. Which one
the halftime show?

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
Yeah, oh no no?

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
And never you before, well, the actual perform Okay, you
mean there talking.

Speaker 7 (01:04:11):
About the time from the end of the quarter when
third quarter play starts, it's like forty minutes.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
Performance.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
No, it's way too long.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah, because they keep them off the field so that
they can tear down that stage.

Speaker 4 (01:04:25):
That they put I just remember going into halftime. Yeah,
and then all of a sudden. Normally you're going a halftime,
you go to the restroom, you have an orange, you
say ten words, and then you're back out in the field.
That's a normal game, right, No, in there you're laying
down your guys are you know, you're trying to get them. Hey,
we got to go back out there in a little while.
But it's longer.

Speaker 7 (01:04:44):
I think Russell Russell said he went to the locker
room at halftime. Is you're the Patriot game or never gaming.
He took a shower. Yeah, you could have had so
much time.

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
Yeah, you could have.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
Wait, I thought that was the San Francisco game where
it got locked out. No, that was the lights went out.

Speaker 7 (01:04:58):
That was that is a longer halftime show for sure,
or a halftime.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
No, it was like the lightning thing that I thought.
That's when he took a shower.

Speaker 7 (01:05:08):
Russell Wilson yes, he didn't play in the Niner game
because he played for the Seahawks. Talk when Russell Wilson played,
good grief, man, What is going on, Mike? Did you
bring in a bottle of wine or something?

Speaker 2 (01:05:19):
I know what you're talking about. I'm saying, I think
you're thinking of a different thing.

Speaker 7 (01:05:23):
When Russell Wilson talked about like taking a shower during
that during the Bronco game or during the Patriot game. No,
somebody else may have taken a shower or maybe had
a bath. I don't know during the nin or Baltimore game.
That's the game you're thinking about. I think Russell Wilson
did say that. Maybe he just said it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
To me previous game.

Speaker 7 (01:05:40):
I don't know where.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
The Seahawks had a bad start against the Niners, and
then there was lightning, they had to clear the field,
and then he took a shower to want to restart things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:50):
And I'm sorry for interrupting your lovely story.

Speaker 7 (01:05:52):
It was a great story. You ruined it. You know
what do you want from me? Phenomenal story? I don't
have phenomenal stories very often, and when I have one,
you gotta let me go. I'll just shut out.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
No no, No, I'm really sorry. He's not in here
to have this conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:06:04):
Hey, Mike, did you did you hear Mount Softie explode
on the air on Monday afternoon?

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
No?

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
I didn't.

Speaker 7 (01:06:10):
It was Hall of Fame related, by the way. Oh boy,
you know we got your back. Can you say you
got soldiers on the ground fighting for you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
I appreciate it, you know everyone, honestly, I think everyone.
Everyone's been really kind about that, honestly.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
Can I can? I just read you, by the way,
and I don't think that I'm violating any code here.
I got a text from John Gruden, by the way. Yeah,
and this was the day after and John Gruden told
me it's a joke. Makes me not even want to
watch football, says John Gruden. Wow, okay, after what happened
on Thursday night. So I know you're tired of hearing it, man,
But hang in there, pal, Yeah, right, hanging there? All right?

(01:06:45):
All right, let's see we got Mike Florio, Mike's favorite
NFL reporter, joining us at three ten. Oh good, Jason
Stark is gonna hop on talk some baseball with pictures
and catchers. Reporting around three point thirty today, Petro says
with us Kevin harl with us fresh off calling the
game on Sunday, and then we're gonna get to Uta,
Ohio State pregame five tip off, five point thirty right

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here on ninety three three k j R f.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
M ninth Voice. All right tof days next.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
See you guys.

Speaker 8 (01:07:11):
Bye,