Furness Show 2-19: Bruce Harrell's Idiocy, Bucky Jacobson, Eddie Olczyk.

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Speaker 1 (01:01):
All right, welcome in Sports Radio ninety three point three
kjr FM. He internasced with you on a Wednesday afternoon.
Lucky Jacobson coming up at one thirty day live from
Mariner Spring Training. Everything is rosy and glorious down there
right now. We'll talk to him about a lot of

(01:24):
things coming up at one thirty two. They had pictures
Day today. I guess it was Picture's Day something like that.
I don't know Chuck. Chuck makes up like things all
the time about like was it pictures Day? Is what
he called it? Like almost Christmas or something? He does
the draft miss. I saw him on TV this morning
talking about Picture's Day. I don't know it's because that's
all the interviews dated today. Yeah, which is good. I mean, honestly,

(01:44):
outside of Julio and Cal, who else do you want
to talk to you? It's worth of damn Like, if
you're being honesty, it's five guys and then Cal and
Julio and you could be done at that point because
those seven guys are the ones that matter after that whatever.
But that's uh. I did hear are a little bit?
Who was I listening to? I think Brian Wu was
on right, he was on this morning. Yes, I think

(02:05):
I heard WO a little bit with those guys When
I was driving around. But yeah, good stuff. Those guys
have been doing a great job all week. So down
in pure A spring training two o'clock we've been I've
had people ask me a lot, Hey, when are you
gonna get ed zone? On Eddie Olchek from the KRACK
and Hockey Network and the tn T NHL broadcast, he
did a couple of the games for the Four Nations
Tournament on TNT. He's going to join us at two

(02:27):
o'clock today and we'll talk about the game on Thursday tomorrow.
Canada US and what it has done for hockey in
this country, what this tournament and especially US versus Canada
has done, what it means. He played for Team USA,
played for the national team a number of times a
number of years. He's one of the all time league

(02:48):
scores as far as an American is concerned in our
country from in the NHL. So Edge was going to
join us. We'll ask him a little bit about cracking
as well. He's always, shall we say, outspoken. I love
it for some of who works for the team. God,
there's a with him and Foreslyn there's a Dave Kneehouse
element to them that they have enough equity in the

(03:09):
game and enough juice. They can say things that the
rest of us can't say. And we might think things,
but we can't say things.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Right or anything that comes from does it come from
just kind of being a legend of the game sort
of thing.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
It's equity, it's being you know, I mean now, I
mean we were only four years into the hockey team
and Edge was only three years into doing games here.
But he's, you know, of the most well respected broadcasters
in the game and was again he's a he's a
US Hockey Hall of Famer. He's done it on a
national scale, done it on a national international scale. And then
John fors Lynn's, in my mind, is the best in
the business. Uh, He's just he's phenomenal. It's such a

(03:46):
bummer that he's not on the Four Nations call. I
don't understand it. I don't get it. I don't get
to Kenny Albert Love and there is nobody for ESPN
that is worth a damn calling hockey. So I it's
a bummer because John's John's the best, He's best American podcast. Oh,
they're just they're unreal, They're absolutely unreal. But yeah, well
we'll check in with him. At two o'clock today, four nine,

(04:06):
four five one tolemar new text line when his game
does absolutely toy Timy and I could use some toy.
You sure could. Uh So we'll get to those. We'll
get your text later on today, and we're gonna have
a lot for you to discuss as well. I'm Bucky's
gonna join us one three, we'll spend some time here.
I'm gonna just walking out our good buddy Matt Hobbs

(04:27):
sales guy out there, going you can't have hate, can't
have that kind of hate. I don't have a lot
of hate in my life, I really don't. But we
all have a little bit of hate here and there,
and we all have sports hate. But then there's times
when it just the sports hate crosses a line, and
it did yesterday. It just did. The mayor of our

(04:54):
city crossed the line. You know, Softy loses his mind sometimes,
well not sometimes. Anytime he hears you know, Kenny Wheaton's
going to score the little highlights from the Huskies back
in when was that ninety eight, ninety four? Whenever the
hell was that ninety four that brock hewred through the

(05:15):
uh no, Damon Heward one of the Hwars, some Huans,
somebody named Heward, Sam Brock, Damon doesn't matter. I Huard
through an interception that was critical, which happened a lot.
Actually you think about it, because Sam through like nine
of them in the Apple Cup. But no, when Damon
here through the pick six, Kenny Whets can score. Every
now and then that highlight'll play or it gets brought up.
Sometimes Dick likes to poke the bear and brings it

(05:36):
up and he loses it like lou like, it's not funny.
It's not something that I joke about. Same thing with
what happened in Super Bowl forty nine and the pick
sick or not the pick, but the Malcolm Butler interception.
Certain things, you just certain things just aren't funny. Yeah,
especially to Seahow sports fans. Losing your NBA team isn't funny.

(06:01):
Teasing that the NBA team's coming back when you really,
frankly have no clue or any any stake in it
is even less. So I think we'd all agree, and
we don't tread down the world too often in the
station of the world of politics we have over the
years where it was gas and graz and those guys,
you know, rallying the troops, trying to get stadiums built,

(06:23):
T Mobile slash, Safego built, stadium bonds passed, loom and Field,
all those things that have gone on over the years.
I mean, the station was the forefront of that, but
it was sports related. When the Sonics were on their
way out and you know, we're trying to do the
save our Sonics stuff, and we got to know Brian
Robinson and Paul Schneiderman and the others are involved with

(06:44):
the Save our Sonics group. We had them on. I
remember that's when I was starting into two thousand and
six and Elise and I had those guys on. We
became friends with Brian, still am with Brian, and we
were behind their efforts to save the Sonics. Even though
the team had stiffed us as a radio station and
just some unsavory stuff there, we still it was all
about let's keep the team here. When the team went

(07:07):
into a court battle with the City of Seattle and
we sided with the City of Seattle, we spent time
down there doing that as well. So we don't always
we try to venture away from from political things, but
sometimes it does crossover. State of the City address yesterday
been to Royal Hall Mayor Bruce Harrell Garfield alum, University

(07:29):
of Washington alum, former football player at UDB knows Seattle,
Seattle native also should know better. And I'll paint the
picture if you haven't seen it yet. But here's the audio.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Right now, at this moment, I have an announcement in me.
I'm just kidding ized.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
This es.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
I got.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Okay, okay, there's a long space. I had to break
it up a little bit here. The visual that you
didn't see was him holding reaching down inside the podium
that he was speaking at, reaching out and pulling out
of basketball and teasing people that the Sonics were coming back.
The NBA had awarded a franchise here when we just
finished an All Star weekend in which the commissioner of

(08:29):
the NBA wouldn't even discuss the thought of expansion, wouldn't
even take a question on it. Before we get into
all of all of what it is and where we're
at and why it angered me and so many others.
Little context. Here's Chris Daniels on earlier with Mark James.

(08:49):
Chris Daniels, of course from COMO.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Seen Bruce enough where he makes a Sonics joke in
his State of the City address every year, and in
the year before it involved me. Oh, it was at
the Museum of History and Industry. He made a joke
about waking me up for the Sonics news and Chris,
I don't have anything to say today about the Sonics news,
so I know that this is a running gag in

(09:11):
his hour long State of the City address. He likes
to go off script. He's known for going off script.
Part of me thinks he was trying to make eye
contact with me to do the same thing this year,
but I was sitting up in the rafters and I've
been to Roy Hall and he didn't know how to
finish the joke. But yeah, he's done this before, but
maybe not to this extreme that you saw on camera yesterday.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
So the context, I don't know if i'd call it important,
but I think it's informative in that regard that he
had done that before. And actually, when Chris mentioned that
with Mark James today, I remembered a little bit of
that last year. But it wasn't funny. And there's a

(09:57):
couple of reasons why. One On July second, two thousand
and eight, after forty one years when the Sonics left
this town and left a community heartbroken, it was because
of politicians that they left. Understand that now we can
do the blame game all day, every day, three sixty five,

(10:21):
twenty four to seven here in this town we have
and we have, but understand inherently if we want to
go back in time, why did the Sonics leave? Why
when did the issues first come up? Well back in
the mid nineties when they decided to renovate the Seattle
Center Coliseum. The decision was made by politicians and then

(10:44):
owner Bury Acrely and Listen Bury Acrely founded this radio station.
There's a lot of people that still work here that
are very fond of the late Bury Acrely, his family
still involved now with the new ownership group, with the
Kraken and so forth. Not all has been bad with Acries,
but very accurately in the city made a decision that

(11:05):
forever changed what would happen with the NBA here, Make
no mistake about that. While Chicago was building a brand
new state of the art building, while Portland, Oregon, was
building what was then known as the Rose Garden is
now the Modi Center, very actlely urged the city of

(11:25):
Seattle and they accepted this to build a basketball only
facility at the Seattle Center Coliseum site, using, of course,
the iconic roof. And that's what they did. Remember that
the politicians made that decision from the second the day

(11:47):
that it opened. That building was outdated. It was such
a shortsighted, cheap decision that the inevitable was going to happen.
The team was going to have to move or they'd
have to build another building soon thereafter. Well, let's fast
forward to two thousand and eight and go ahead twelve

(12:07):
years from then. What happened, Well, we all know what happened.
Howard Schultz in two thousand and six sold the Sonics
to a group from Oklahoma City. Why because he couldn't
get the politicians to buy into building a new building.
And listen, I probably don't blame some of them, but
there needs to be some sort of partnership along the way.

(12:27):
But that went south. Howard sold the team to a
guy that he knew full well was going to move
the team. He is the villain. David Stern is number
two on the list and always will be. But politicians.
But there was a battle that took place. Remember the
battle that took place. I remember it because every single

(12:49):
flipping day when I was doing a show, starting at
one o'clock, I would meet Steve Kelly from the Seattle Times,
well co host mister Puckett, Alice Woodward, and others. We
would meet down at the US Federal Courthouse and sit
through boring ass testimony because we felt like we needed

(13:12):
to be there for our show to show support as
voices in this town as they tried to save the Sonics.
We sat through that entire flip and trial, the highlight
being the day the Mariners fired a manager in the
middle of the trial. We found that out during a break.
The eight Mariners were awful by the classic. It was

(13:33):
so good. We couldn't make this stuff up. And then
the Huskies went oh to twelve three months later. Ah,
what a year. Had one win two wins anyway, and
the Seahawks were bat by the way too. Yeah that
was That was Holgman's last year. Last year. Yeah, oh wait,
it was fun. Anyway. We were there every day. I
sat through. Every day I sat there, all of us

(13:56):
sat there and listened to it. I remember talking to
my man Paul Schneiderman, who was the kind of the
attorney just by the way. Shout out to Paul to
celebrate twenty five years. He celebrated twenty five years as
as an attorney. And I love you, Paul to death.
And I'm going to get back to Bruce Harrol on
the second. So those of you that are trying to
forgive him, I'm going to give you a reason why

(14:17):
you will never forgive Bruce Harrel. And I swear to God,
I do not want to see that guy anywhere near
Climate Pledgerina when we throw the ball up in the air.
But I'll get to that in a second. This was
a city that was fighting to keep them here and
the least agreement at least fulfilled for the next two years. Well,
with what happened in our economy, with what happened with
the co owner, with Clayton Bennett of the Oklahoma City

(14:39):
Thunder and his company going belly up, that team would
have stayed here. They would have found local ownership. Clayton
Bennett would have been forced to sell it back to
someone here in Seattle. We would still have a team here. Now,
we wouldn't have Climate Pledgerina, we wouldn't have the NHL.
But let's just take care of two thousand and eight
for a second, because forty one years of history were
flushed down. Why because because of a gutless city government

(15:03):
that decided to take a buyout. They decided that it's
okay to get bullied by David Stern and the NBA
with a promise that was as empty as an empty
suit can have. And you're gonna go ahead and say,
you know what, hey, we're going to bring the team back.
You'll get your best chance of getting a team back
is take this settlement. You're gonna pay off the debt
for this albatross, this atrocity of a building that I like,

(15:28):
I wish that thing would have been imploded. I don't
care about the damn roue or not. It was just
a disaster. It's the reason we're not having a team
here anymore. But they took that. On July second, two
thousand and eight, we sat there and I went back
down there with that same group of people. I thought
Alice Woodward was going to jump up and strangle somebody,
including the mayor at the time, Steve Kellen. I looked
at each other. I mean literally all was had tears

(15:49):
in our eyes.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Right.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
This didn't just happen and they laughed. Do you know
who one of the city council members was, Bruce Harrel?

Speaker 5 (15:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
That was a unanimous city council vote. Unanimous Bruce Harrel.
Bruce Harrel voted for the Sonics to leave. Understand that.
Understand that Bruce Harrel voted for the NBA to take
our team and move it to Oklahoma City. He was
part of that. It wasn't just Greg Nichols, it was

(16:21):
a city council as well. Council has changed, but you
know who's still there, That city councilman. He's now sitting
in the mayor seat. And he thought it was okay
in some way, shape or form. He thought it was
okay to tease us. Listen, the history is what it is.

(16:41):
We can't change that. We need to look forward and
we will. This group, this group the wiwikis Todd, Tim
Sam Holloway, one roof Climate Pledge, Kraken, et cetera. How
whatever umbrella group we're going by these days, they are
the ones working on bringing the team back. There's rumors

(17:03):
and rumblings about a second group somewhere along the way.
Chris Hansen's still out there. Whatever it ain't gonna They're
gonna play an NBA game forty one a year soon,
probably twenty twenty seven in Climbate Plagarina Bruce Harrel. I swear,
my friend, you you are the life. There's two people

(17:25):
that better not be around. Howard Schultz has won. We'll
get to that in the two at one forty five.
We're gonna do the daily power play at two with Eddie.
We'll get to that at one forty five. Howard Schultz
has won. Bruce Harali or the other. In no way,
shape or form should you be taking a victory lap
of any sort. That's when what I saw yesterday, I
knew what I knew he was just. I knew he's

(17:45):
just being a dipstick. And here's the thing. I haven't
checked lately on social media, but twenty hours had passed
last I checked with no acknowledgment from him. And I
had a guy tweet me or text and tweet text
whatever earlier tweet something. You know, Hey, he's not a
big deal. Blah blah blah. It's the number one most
read story. It's like three paragraphs that Tim Booth wrote

(18:07):
on the Sale Times website today. It's what everyone's talking
about today. Bruce Harrel, you should learn from history as well,
because what happened to Greg Nichols his reelection bid the
next year, he didn't get out of the primary. As
a sitting incumbent mayor didn't get out of the primary.

(18:28):
Mister MySpace got more votes than him. You better learn, Bruce,
because you stupid moron. What you did yesterday was unacceptable.
I'm a twenty two year old son who's a huge
basketball fan, high school basketball player, played AU, loves the sport,
loves the NBA. He grew up in this town without

(18:51):
the NBA. I can't ever get that back. Anders, you
can't ever get that back. Chris Kid can't ever get
that back. None of us can get that back. It's
going to be twenty years and Bruce Harrel, you were
part of the problem, and you sure as hell aren't
part of the solution. So when you tease people like that,
even though most of us knew that it was bs
because we just had an All Star weekend in which

(19:12):
nothing was mentioned, and there's zero chance then announcement of
an NBA team is going to come back during a
State of the City address. Just the fact that you
did that and thought it was funny. And then the
you played like thirty seconds of him laughing.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I kept that in there for sure, Like that was
more cringe worthy than the Scott Service when he used
to do that stuff all the time. Yeah. I mean,
like if you're going on in terms of a likability
factor or an unlikability factor, like Bruce Harold just passed
Jerry to Poto and lapped him. Yeah, but I I

(19:47):
mean this sincerely. I can't wait till it comes back.
But when it does, my goodness, Bruce Harrel, you do
not deserve to take a victory lap. You do not
just you're it's not your money. It's not your money.
The four six eight ten billion dollars is gonna cost.
It's not your money. It's not his doing either, and

(20:08):
it's not your doing. It was you and others doing
to have them leaving. O. Wait again, part of that
city council, right, yes, vote, So don't you dare try
to do that again. I don't care if you're messing
around Chris Daniels or not know the room guy, know
the room. No one thinks it's funny. And I drove

(20:30):
into Seattle today, looked around. I think you've got some
bigger fish to fry in this city right now. City.
I grew up in a city I grew went to
school in. I took the metro buses to school every day,
every single day. I took the metro bus to school.
I took the metro bus to work when I worked
at KBI Downtown. I wouldn't jump on a metro bus

(20:51):
right now. They're not safe. But Bruce, that's okay, buddy,
that's okay. Your city's fine. You can You can afford
to make jokes. You can afford to tease the emotions
of fans that frankly have no patience for it. Do
not take a victory lap. Do not make yourself available.
That's not you, buddy, It ain't you. It's not you.

(21:11):
Dalt Constantin or whoever's going to be in that office,
because he's almost out anyway, when that happens for King County,
it's the folks at case I, Tim Leiwiki and the
Oakview Group. That's who it is. It's sure as hell,
isn't you, guys? Period end of story. Bucky Jacobson's next.

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Speaker 5 (21:46):
We'll get the.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
Text in about an hour's time. A lot of text
masters is coming in, so stand by for that. If
you're sitting in your feedback from that opening segment, we
will talk to you. Then in the meantime, it's head
down to Peoria, Arizona. Bucky Jacobson with us right now,
Chuck and Buck every morning six am, Peoria, seven am there,
so you know, it's like an Earth It's it's an
easy day for a seven am. Why aren't you in

(22:08):
the bar right now, buddy.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Because I get to talk to you and we're waiting
to maybe get a couple other recordings. We're trying to
get a little Edgar and Jay Buner combo.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
Whoa, whoa.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
But it just happens at that Edgar Martinez fellows in
some sort of hitters meeting with coaches.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
Why's he doing that? What the hell?

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Well, I'm okay with it. I would rather him and
the rest of the coaches figure out how to get
this team to score runs, then come do an interview
with us.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
A big day of talking to pictures today. What'd you learn?

Speaker 7 (22:43):
It was horrible?

Speaker 1 (22:44):
I know, I know you were I did think about that.
I'm like, oh, Chuck's just loving this. We're talking about
we're doing this and my you know, here's what my
velo is, my spin rate and all this, and you're like, hey,
when are we gonna talk to the real baseball players exactly?

Speaker 7 (22:58):
I mean, he ad the Picture's Day and I'm like,
it's not a holiday. Let's be real. No. I mean,
I kid, because I don't really like pictures in general.
That's just the nature of the beast. But I always
like my pictures, and yeah, these are my pictures, and
so I like these and I really like our group
of pictures. I mean, we ended up getting everybody on

(23:21):
except for Kirby, which I think we will have him
on tomorrow. He was busy doing some other stuff. But
even Luis Castillo ended up just he didn't want to
do an interview with translator and that whole thing. But
he did end up saying Happy Pictures Day in Spanish,
so we got a little Castillo action in there. But yeah,

(23:42):
Wu and Gilbert and Bryce Miller, I mean, these guys
are kind of walking sound bites. The nice thing is
is they enjoy each other so much that they talk
trash all the time. Like Bryce Miller kept poking his
head out of the door from the cafeteria out to
where where we're at, just to talk trash. You did

(24:03):
it to cal yesterday when we had cowl on or
the day before.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
I don't know what day.

Speaker 7 (24:07):
It was yesterday, I guess anyways, and he and then
he does it again to Gilbert here and they just
kind of rib each other and and then obviously this
is what they do on the field kind of speaks
for itself. So it's a it's a very enjoyable experience
talking to those pictures, even though I don't really like pictures.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
How important is that part of the of of it?
I mean, all the clubhouses you were in, major leagues,
minor leagues, asn't matter college. Is it important to have chemistry,
camaraderie and a sport that's so individually tailored.

Speaker 7 (24:38):
Uh, it kind of broke up there. I didn't hear
what you said.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Is how important is that part of the I mean
all the clubhouses you were in. You probably had some
great clubhouses with a lot of chemistry, some clubhouses where
guys didn't like each other. Does it matter at all?

Speaker 5 (24:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Yeah, I mean it does. It can I should say
it doesn't. It doesn't guarantee it. There's I I played
on some good teams. I'm played mostly in the minor leagues.
I played on some good teams and won some championships,
and they weren't the two that I can remember. One
had great morale and had a great team chemistry. The

(25:12):
position players still kind of stick together, and pitchers kind
of still stick together. But this one was where their
little clicks or their groups still kicked it with us.
It was even though there's a separation, they were still
we were still kind of all in it together beyond
just on the baseball field. And then I had another
one where I mean I didn't want to hang out
with any of those clowns, and they didn't want to

(25:33):
hang out with any of us, and yet we still
went to battle out there. I would say, first and
foremost talent wins, right, I mean, you don't have to
have the most chemistry. If you have talent, and then
when you get out there inside the lines, you go
play for one another. You're not hoping that this guy
fails because you don't like him. Obviously that would not
benefit the team or you individually. But for the most part,

(25:54):
I think talent is kind of what you'd rather have
talent versus chemistry. But if you can have talent and
chemistry that does along.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
With the It's always the time of the year where
guys talk about, Oh, I worked on this pitch or
I've got this new pitch. I think it was WU
saying that there's somebody works on like nineteen pitches a year,
and WU just goes in with whatever he has. So
what did you learn in terms of what those guys
come into the year with.

Speaker 7 (26:14):
Yeah, well, I mean Gilbert is working on new pitch,
and he's also still trying to hone the stuff that
he brought in last year, the curve ball that he
was working on last year, trying to make sure he's
got that closer to perfected being able to throw it
for a strike versus just being able to bounce it
as a chase pitch, just kind of put away pitch.
Miller is working on a cutter. He wants something that

(26:36):
kind of will ride up and in on the lefties
and break some bats and just make that a little
bit better when you got that lefty going up against him,
and we know lineups like to they like to stack
lefties against him in particular. And yet then you have, Yeah,
Wu's the type of guy that just basically is like,
I just like what I got and it works, so
I just want to get better at what I have right,

(26:57):
And for the most part, that's you know, Kirby's the
type of guy I think that. I think it was
Bryce that was saying he can just pick up a
pitch in like a day. He can just figure it
out in a day. So I think he might be
the most mad scientists of the group when it comes
right down to it. But ta Varian degrees most of them.
Luis Castile, I think just he knows who he is,

(27:18):
he knows what he has. I think Brian Wu's same thing,
and I think both of that. The reason for that
to some degree is both of them kind of have
a little bit that lower arm angle, so they have
a little bit more of deception. I think that they
both kind of come at you with a little bit
more of a of a Cadillac smooth delivery and then boom,
the ball jumps out of their hands. That'll get on

(27:39):
you a little bit. It's we used to call it
like a heavy ball. It had late life and kind
of kind of gets on you quickly. Whereas you know Gilbert,
Kirby and and Miller, they all kind of max effort
like they're even in their wind up boom, but when
they reach their leg at the pinnacle, then they're coming
downhill at you with everything you know, a holes and elbows,
just coming at full blast. So I mean, I think

(28:02):
that that's a I think that's a difference between those
guys is because of the armslot of Castillo and Wu,
they don't really have to come up with seven eight
different pitches. If you come from the what we used
to just call the Joe white righty, just over the
top kind of three quarter high three quarter. That's what
you see a lot of pitchers coming from that same spot.

(28:22):
So those guys maybe feel like they need to come
up with something a little bit different because they don't
have deception in their delivery.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Bucky Jacobs of joining us chucking buck there all week.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
Long, flipping me off with my analysis, can you believe that, well,
I mean over here flipping me.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
The bird, Well, then he hasn't changed. It's good, right,
he hasn't changed one bit. That's good. We like that.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Surprised you didn't say it.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
Well, just to keep HI away from the hot mic
if you can't true. You know, if I know you
probably are spending any time you're not doing interviews, you're
probably you are probably by a batting cage, but you
probably have wanted to buy a bullpen session or two.
You've watched these guys throw over the years so well,
Bucky Jacobs from the player like in your prime, like

(29:03):
when you were launching balls at T Mobile and the
folk hero that you were, and you have that confidence
of all those guys number one and number two, the
guys you would not want to face.

Speaker 7 (29:14):
Ooh of our starting rotation. Yeah, number one and number two.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
I will make it go. I'm make it go one
through five. Just whatre the two guys you would not
want to face. It might be all five, but who
are the top two?

Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (29:27):
I mean, honestly, these guys on any given day would
just shove it where the sun don't shine on me.
I guarantee it. I you know, I thought about it
the last shoot. You know, definitely eight years that I've
been doing this job, you just kind of think about
the way that I break the game down now. I
would have loved for pitchers to pitch up in the zone.
Back when I played, they didn't pitch up there. Now.

(29:47):
Part of that was because they didn't get that high strike,
cald that was a ball back when I played. So
now that they get that called, they can pitch there
and above that. Once they established they can throw the
high strike, they can go and keep kind of climbing
the ladder. I took pride in the fact that I
had a short enough swing that I could get on
top of high fastballs.

Speaker 5 (30:04):
He used to.

Speaker 7 (30:04):
Be a guy to hit a ball in the seats,
and what did the announcers say, Oh, the pitcher left
that ball up. You don't hear that as much anymore now.
I think that's a combo of more pitchers throwing harder,
more pitchers that throw hard. I don't necessarily think they
throw harder than back in the day. It's just a
matter of where you measure and they're catching it right
out of the hand now versus it used to be

(30:25):
closer to home plate where they were measuring the velocity.
But I think there's more guys that throw hard, and
the fact you couple that with the up fastball, I
think that they can kind of live up there a
little bit more successfully. I always thought, man, I would
love to have just a bunch of guys that I'm
facing that think they can blow it by me, because
I'd never found a fastball that I didn't like. I

(30:48):
think Gilbert, with how tall he is, how close he's
releasing the ball to you, couple that with his split finger,
I think he would be really really dirty if he
got ahead of me. I think he would be able
to have some high sich that's pretty much across the board.
Luis Castillo has probably the dirtiest stuff. That little weird

(31:08):
borderline short arm, but it's side arm, not sidearm, just
really low three quarters. He's got some run that would
have probably jumped in on my hands and broke my
bat a few times, and I would have been pretty irritated,
you know, jogging down to first base with half my
bat in my hands. I would probably say Castile would
have been the one I would have been least. Yeah,

(31:29):
you know, a guy like Kirby, he just goes out
there and says, I like my stuff and I'm gonna
pound the zone with it. That would not have been
a good recipe against me because I was a free swinger.
I was going up there, I was gonna get my
three hacks, and chances are two, if not three, of
those pitches he throws are going to be in the zone.
And there wasn't anything that I couldn't hit necessarily. It
was just themo on getting me out was throw something

(31:51):
that looks like a strike and it ends up not
being a strike. I might still swing at it. If
you can do that a bunch of times, I'm gonna
go sit down and look stupid doing it. But so,
I mean, they all would have their day against me,
I'm certain, but I think the guys that don't have
as good off speed stuff that the split finger is
a nasty pitch. If you can pitch the top rail

(32:13):
and you can drop a split finger that falls off
the table way Kirby's looked, or the way that Gilberts
looked last year, that would be trouble.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Oh so tease the show, as I say, tease the
show for tomorrow, Bucky.

Speaker 7 (32:24):
Oh boy, tomorrow, we are going to have your favoritest
person and probably one of the all time favorite sons
of Seattle, Jerry Depotle.

Speaker 1 (32:34):
We're gonna be able really Okay, okay, we'll get.

Speaker 7 (32:38):
Jerry to Poto, so we'll get to ask him some
of the questions that everybody's interested in hearing and see
how he answers it. That will be interesting. What times
that we know, well, we don't know what time that's tomorrow,
and so what else do we got. We've got Luke Rayley,
one of my favorite players. That's if any kids are

(32:59):
listening right now, if you want to know how you're
supposed to play the game, yes, that's how you're supposed
to play the game. Watch Luke Raley. I's maybe not smooth,
maybe it doesn't look pretty hard, but the dude plays
hard and does whatever it takes to to uh to
help the team win. Like I said, I think we're
gonna end up having a kirbyond as well. So we
got we got a pretty full one. We got Jay here.

(33:20):
Like I said, he was just flipping me off new TV,
New TV. Yeah, new TV guy. He's got a face
for radio, So we're gonna get him on radio.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
How much how much make of it? I know, how
much makeup I use? How much is he gonna need?

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Well?

Speaker 7 (33:33):
I know the thing too, and you need to be careful. Okay,
you're talking about folloically challenged people. We stick together, Okay,
mister fullhead, all right, Yeah, it takes us a little
We have a little more skin to cover up. So yeah,
I think we'll have Jay. We're trying to get Jay
and Edgar together, but Edgar's in a big team hitting meeting,

(33:53):
like I said, so I think we'll at least have
Jay at a minimum. So pretty full show.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
We're looking forward to listen to you guys. I said
it yesterday. I mean it. You guys just you go
down there and you absolutely crush it. There's other stations
and TV and radio and mediums that go down there.
What you guys do during the course of the five
days is is it's honestly, it's remarkable. And I've done that.
I've done it a few times, and there's a reason
they don't send me back. You guys have a far

(34:18):
far greater work ethic, much less knowledge of baseball, but
just a far greater work ethic along the way. So
keep up the good work, man. It's fun listen to
what you got going on.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
I appreciate it. I appreciate it, and I'll tell you what,
I take the other fifty one weeks of the year off.
You want to talk about work ethic, I'll give you
one good solid week.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
That's all you need, buddy, That's all you need along
the way, all right, man, take care, all right later. Guys,
that is Bucky Jacobson down there doing a great job.
Fantastic job throughout the throughout the week those guys are doing.
I've been. It's just fun.

Speaker 5 (34:52):
I mean.

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Speaker 1 (35:36):
Eddie Old Check ed Zel's going to join us top
of the hour, USA, USA, they're all shatting that right now.

Speaker 5 (35:43):
USA.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
Huh, it's gonna be a good game tomorrow about it.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
I'm scared for a Canada comeback and win in the final.
Very reminiscent of the twenty ten Olympics fall Sits gonna
get a golden goal for you. I would really hope
not You like what I said you last night?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Say you like to say last night about Sid Yeah,
that guy's awesome. Huh, he's so good, so good.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
Because didn't USA beat them in the group stage they
might have Yeah, I feel.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Like they did.

Speaker 5 (36:12):
And then.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
The final. I know where I was. I know where
I was during that gold medal game. Yeah, Hooters in Peoria.
There you go. You're watching the game, and yeah we
got it was the first day we got there for
spring training.

Speaker 5 (36:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Boy, had a lot of texts coming in four nine
four to five one four nine four or five one
Tullomer text on when it's game time. It's of course
there's a few people like, ah, you guys are just soft.
Why are you upset? Then? But majority of people are like, yeah,
Bruce Harreld's an idiot. Translate soft. I don't know, because
you get offended by things that you know, when you

(36:49):
get your heart ripped out and then you're offended by
people mocking it. I don't know if that makes you
soft or that just make you human.

Speaker 7 (36:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (36:56):
One other thing I want to touch it on just
I'm not gonna play the sound weich just gonna short
segment here. This will be maybe time and place again
down the road when Mark James New Guy by the way,
if he heard a new Guy MJ Midday, He had
Chris Daniels on from Calmo TV today and Chris just
dropped this one in there. I'm gonna have to call

(37:17):
him off the air. So I didn't realize this. Apparently
Howard Schultz and I gotta be careful. Howard Schultz gave
some money the new project that they're putting on over
at the Seattle Center with Memorial Stadium, that that fe
O few and all those guys are doing. That's in fact,
that's taking up I know a majority of toddlig Wiki's

(37:38):
time right now, among other things. And apparently Howard Schultz
and his wife, through the foundation, made a donation to that,
and then Chris dropped, Okay, that's fine, whatever, Nothing you
can do can erase what you did, Howard. But then
he dropped in Daniels did, well, there's a chance, you know,
like maybe Howard is going to be part of the
you know, one of the minority owners of the new

(37:59):
NBA team and try to come full circle with it.
I'm going to tell you right now, what the mayor
did yesterday would just that's that's child's play compared to
I don't know how you could you tell me, could
you sell Howard Schultz as a minority owner for the Sonics? Uh? No, no,

(38:21):
you cannot. I don't think I think it would poison
an incredible situation.

Speaker 3 (38:27):
Yeah, and so many fans that would have maybe been excited,
and maybe some fans are already feeling this way that
when the team comes back, they're just doing him feel
so disturbed about how it went away in the first.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Do you feel betrayed? Yes, I think betrayed would be
the word I would use.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Now.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
I know Todd well, I can see him. Todd has
a bigger vision, he's more forgiving, he's more mature. I
just soft, He's in I think he's in Hawaii. I'm
gonna pull that, man, I'm gonna pull that sound and
we'll play it during his first cross talk back next week.
Please do Howard Schultz part of the ownership group and

(39:01):
see what he says. I just I don't, I don't.
You can't sell that now. I don't know what your reaction,
but four nine four or five one, I don't know
what your reaction would be. I I just don't even
think you can even come close to selling that.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, because it's him just trying to save face and
be like, oh, I've learned from.

Speaker 1 (39:16):
Doesn't erase from forty one years of history and twenty
years without a team, sixty one years of equity that
you have screwed up nobody. It does not help that.
I wouldn't. I wouldn't care because I think there was
a time there was talk about him coming back, bringing
a team back period as a majority owner, and people
are like, no double birds. Yeh yeah, all right, uh

(39:38):
Eddie oldcheck ed Zoe. We'll talk to him about four Nations, USA, Pride,
the game, what are the cracking gonna do? Trade deadline?
Why is it going? Where has it gone wrong? Edzon next?
Oh yeah, here we go. It's uh headlines might to
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the Big Ten Conference tournament. Last night was bad for
Washington and Rutgers. Rutgers is here tonight. Why cause Minnesota
beat mccrodon. Going from win number five hundred, he's still
at four ninety nine. Why the Golphers came from behind

(40:22):
and got a win. They're solely in the top fifteen.
Washington is the first team out. Rutgers is sitting at fifteenth.
That game tonight right here on KJR, starting at seven thirty.
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Speaker 1 (41:34):
We've been waiting for k j R f M. All right,
welcome back in Here we go on the two o'clock hour.
He infnesce with you and h a daily power Play
that is a little later, fifteen minutes later than normal.
But that's all right because I want to spend some
time with our next guest. We haven't on had him
on for a while. Uh And in fact I have people,
including my producer Anders here, uh ask me all the time,

(41:56):
when are you gonna get ed Zoe? When's Eddie Oldcheck
gonna come on the radio show, and you know what,
I would have him on more often, but I don't
want to. I want to put the burden on him
because a guy is traveling everywhere all across the country
working for TNT, working for the Crack and Hockey Network,
but he's been newing the world the Four Nations Tournament.
So I wanted to get him on right now in
between flights, and he joins us right now in the

(42:17):
Beacon Plumbing hotline. Ed, Zoe, how are you hey?

Speaker 5 (42:20):
What's up? Being nice to be with your teammates, and
I hope you're well. And it's been been a lot
of fun playing on the on the same line here
for the first time, so I enjoyed it very much.
And it's nice to be on your on your other jake,
so to speak. So thanks for having that. I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (42:35):
Well, I'll just say this on on a personal note,
I I haven't had this much fun professionally in a
long time. Being part of what you guys do, and uh,
just being the new guy that kind of slid in there,
but listening and having the headset on and listening to
to you and and Johnny, who's the best in the business,
your chemistry, the two of you, and add JT into
that mix. It's I'd be hard pressed to think there's

(42:56):
a better local broadcast around the National Hockey League than
on when you guys put together. So for me, it's
just been a cur.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
High Kate, thank you very much since you've been a
big ad. So thanks thanks to you and looking forward
to the uh, you know, to the stretch round here
so to speak, cracking got to go on a heater,
but hopefully they can start off in a good way
on Saturday night in South Florida.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I'm gonna get back to that team, our local team
the second. I want to just you were a big
part of the tn T broadcast he in T and
ESPN splitting up the broadcast for the four Nations, which
has proven to be this incredible. I mean, just a catalyst,
a jumpstart for for hockey for fans that were kind
of like, hey, you know, the NHL, what's going on?

(43:39):
And I don't think there's been anything outside of the
Olympics which we haven't seen in a long time, best
on best that has provided a boost to the sport
of hockey in our country, Eddie, in a long time.
Just give me a quick summary of what it was
like for the first few games that you were a
part of and watching in Montreal and Boston, well.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
Watching in a couple of different fronts as a fan.
He is a broadcaster prepping for the two games in Boston,
as you said, and then you know, being a proud
alum of Team USA in a long time ago. I
played in the Olympics as a seventeen year old for
Team USA in nineteen eighty four and cheeriao Yugoslavia, and
I was lucky enough to play and kind of the

(44:19):
you know, the Four Nations version back in eighty four,
eighty seven and ninety one for Team USA in the
Canada Cup. And I played I think in three different
World Championships for Team USA. So there's obviously that great
pride in always cheering one into Red, white and Blue
to win. And especially you know, when you play our
arch rival in Canada, whether it's you know, in the

(44:40):
Olympics or in Canada Cups or the Four Nations based off,
is you know there our greatest rival. And I think
for me it's they've always been our greatest rival, Team
Canada always for Canada for the most part, it's always
been the Russians, and I think that that is you know,

(45:04):
I don't want to say is not sat well for
many many years. Now people may say, well, in order
to have a rivalry, both teams, both countries, both players,
you know, however, you want to look at it and
have a rivalry, one's got to win another one's got
to win. Right. For so many years, Canada had the
upper hand on US as a hockey nation. But I
think since nineteen ninety six in the World Cup of Hockey,

(45:28):
you know, we've taken that step back. But I still
believe as there is a there is I think more
respect for American born hockey players. And you look at
the numbers obviously in the National Hockey League and of
where you know where the National Hockey League as far
as American born players is now compared to where it
was just say nineteen ninety let alone when I broke

(45:50):
into the National Hockey League in nineteen eighty four. So
I think that has always added and I think a
lot of US men's and women's hockey have always looked
at that. Now it's a little different on the women's side,
because you know, Canada and US has been one to
two to one, you know, forever, but it always hasn't
been that way in men's hockey. So I think that

(46:11):
that has led to the uh, you know, to the rivalry.
And when that game happened on a Saturday night in
Montreal last week, and then you know, within one second,
you got you know, you got Matthew ku Chuck dropping
the gloves with Brandon Hagel and then you know, two
seconds later, here comes his younger brother, you know, taking
on Sam Bennett. Matthew kuk Chuck's team made in Florida.

(46:33):
And then you know, some eighteen seconds later, here comes JT.
Miller and he's grabbing cold and Paraco and the rest
is history. So and and then you add in you know,
the the you know, the you know, what is going
on off the ice with the two countries, and then
you have the you know, the booing of the anthem
and so there's just so many things that were going on.

(46:55):
And for me when I was watching, like I said,
I was watching with a couple of different hats, and
you know, to be able to do to do those
two games in Boston. Now, unfortunately the game you know
between Tusay and Team Sweden, you know, in the tournament
was irrelevant obviously because of Canada winning the earlier game
against the Finns. But look to call those games I've
called the Olympics. That was in Vancouver in twenty ten,

(47:18):
that was over in Sochi in twenty fourteen, and that's
the last time that the best, not best was playing
as far as the national hockey that he got the Olympics.
So it's been unbelievable. You know, Do I think the
start is going to be the same with the other
night in Montreal tomorrow night in Boston. I you know,
I don't think so. But would I'd be surprised if

(47:39):
it ever got to that fever pitch at some point
in the game, depending on the score and what have you. No,
I would not be surprised if something like that happened.
But again, this is for all the marvels here. So
I think discipline, playing whistle to whistle, you don't want
to put your team down a man. So I think
it's just been a flat out awesome job by the league,
by the commissioner Gary Bettman up to mister Bill Daily

(48:01):
and the NHL Players Association. And one last thing I
will add, I've talked a lot about this, and Johnny
and I talked about this. I think we talked about
it on the broadcast. Is you know people were questioning,
you know, or just going to be an exhibition, you
know what kind of an effort. Well, right away, Hey,
look it's going to be plumps to the wall and

(48:22):
don't I don't doesn't matter what happens with my team
at home, my NHL. I'm going there to win. And
I think we've seen that and it's been a win win,
I think for the game of hockey.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
It has been a massive win for the game of hockey.
It's been a huge jump start the TV numbers through
the roof idial check joining us here part of the
Crack and Hockey Network T and T broadcast as well
with the NHL. And so I want to touch it
on that a little bit before I talk about the
game tomorrow, just the emotions you mentioned, because I know
even you know, in Allison and us on the studio
when we've talked about it, you know, we've kind of went, Okay,

(48:51):
how is this going to go? It's a made up
event kind of taking the place of the All Star Game.
It's a break for a couple of weeks, a couple guys,
I want to say, opted out, but you know, injuries
were like a concern or worried about it, like Quinn Hughes,
Like I really, let's be honest, Quinn Hughes. If you
didn't just miraculously get cured in four days like you're,
you probably could have played, but you opted out. Prad

(49:12):
Angela did as well. And Ene mean, so the guys
like that kind of happened, but something changed. And you
mentioned all the dynamics, the political dynamics, the booing of
the anthem, but maybe you can talk more about what
the dynamics are regarding a player in the world of hockey.
A hockey player, to me is just cut from a
different cloth. We just went through the NBA All Star weekend.
Guys do want to know part of it. They don't

(49:34):
want to be there. They're not playing for anything. There's
something about a hockey player that's different. Did you ever
doubt that once they put on the Team Canada, Team USA,
the Team Finland, the Team Sweden jerseys, that there would
be any type of you know, exhibition field or did
you feel like this was going to happen all along?

Speaker 5 (49:50):
No, we talked about it. I mean Johnny asked me
that question and that not a chance, not a chance.
It was going to be all out. You're representing your
country and look and let's not forget too. And I
didn't mention this earlier. Is you know, they're like, this
is an appetizer for one year from now, Yes, when
the Olympics are happening. So you've got players auditioning, You've
got players trying out, You've got players wanting to be

(50:13):
a part of that because the league is going to
shut down for three weeks next year and you're going
to have the best hockey players in the world and
obviously going to have more time so you can have
you know, more countries playing and what have you. So again,
different type of game. No fighting allowed at the Olympics,
no fighting, and international competition. So I mean, those are
things that people should be ahead of, you know, coming

(50:33):
up a year from now. But these are NHL rules
and we all know what happened on Saturday night. So
I'm I'm proud of I'm proud of being an alum.
I'm probably have been a small part of it on
the broadcast. I probably be a fan when you look
at everything that has taken place to this point and
you know that, you know it is back. I'm going
to play in the NHL All starting for many many

(50:53):
years in NHL and NBC for all those years, and
as you All Star Game went on, and there's no
other way to say it, he became in a the
NHL of what how the players were starting to handle
it where they started going through the motions, you know,
they started going and just you know, not breaking the sweat.
So that's why they changed to go to a three
on three, a three on three format, and to try

(51:16):
to bring a little bit of energy, they put a
million dollars up. Okay, so I feel for NBA fans.
I see you what the NBA has tried to do
here this last you know, just a couple of days
ago in sam fran But we did have an issue
with the NHL also. And now just be clear, is
that this tournament, Yes, it has substituted for the All

(51:38):
Star Game this year, but once we get back at
some point here, the NHL All Start Game will be
back and you know, you'll go back to that format
and the skills competition and what have you. But with
the you know, the foreign nations, this year the Olympics.
The next year you get an All Star game. I
think it's twenty seven if I'm doing my math quickly enough.

(52:00):
And then in twenty eight we'll get back to something
that is more than a four nation face off. It
might be, and again not going in the political area,
but you know what, what will happen, Will will will
will the Russians be able to have a team in
h in this tournament in a couple of years. So

(52:20):
I know there's a lot there, but not not one
second that I ever think that this was going to be,
you know, handing out banners and you know, in pins
and you know, and just not breaking the sweat. These
guys have laid it on the line and I could
not be more prouder of being a very small part
of this game for a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:37):
So I think there's you know, there's two sports. It's
soccer and hockey are the two sports that you put
the You put the jersey on for your country, and
it just trumps everything. It just impartant, that pun, but
it just it does it takes over everything. You'd be yeah,
I mean that, trust me, but it does it. You
put the jersey on USA Canada. Doesn't even matter what
the country soccer and in hockey, the two that you

(52:59):
just you go. You go balls to the wall. Man,
It's as simple as that. That's what you do. And
I can't wait for tomorrow. It's going to be awesome.
Give me just a thought, like, if we're we're opening
up the show here and so what you got USA
and Canada, We're probably not going to have a scrap
off the top of the top of the game. But
what do you expect to happen?

Speaker 5 (53:18):
Yeah, well, I mean, look, I think you know. The
area of the ice that I would tell hockey fans
to watch tomorrow night would be the area in between
the two blue lines. The Neutrals only call it. And
because both of these teams, obviously with the best players
in the world, they have that ability ian as you know,
is to create and generate off the rush. So I

(53:39):
would try to make either side, all due respect, either
side take penalties and power plays out of it. I
would try to make this a sixty foot type of
game where you're going to have to grind it out,
like it's going to be from the blue line in offensively,
it either ends in the rink and the one team
that gives up a rush chance, a two on one,
a three on two. Remember the goal that David's scorer

(54:01):
in the first game against the USA, Zach Warinci got
outside the faceoff dots right like on a Crack and
Hockey Network when we talked about on the TV side,
talk about defenseman counting and seeing and then staying inside
the dots. Because once you get out the outside the
face offf dots and the neutral zone against the really
really good players, and every guy on Canada and every
guy in the US is really really good. If you

(54:23):
give him that space, they're going to create a chance.
And all of a sudden, he gave mc david about
two feet and all of a sudden he had ten feet,
and all of a sudden he was in all alone.
He scores a beautiful goal on counter hollibuck. So that
would be the area of the ice to me, No,
Charlie mackavoy to me is a massive loss. But in Canada,
they didn't have cal mccarr, did they. Cal mccarr in

(54:44):
Game one is arguably the best defenseman in the world
and he did not play for Team Canada. So that's
a huge ad. That's a huge swing, so flight advantage
all being equaled. Not knowing who's going to get in
is Quinn Hugh's going to show up and play now
with all the injuries going up to you, I don't
know any of that, but I'm just looking at it
knowing that because they said mack Up ways out, I
would assume cal maccar is good to go and play.

(55:06):
I would give a slight edge to Canada. But look
at full disclosure, I'm pulling for the I'm gonna um man,
I I'm pulling like us A and I'm I'm hoping
for an entertaining game. And I know regardless, hockey is
gonna win. I really believe that that's the game of
hockey will win regardless. But my heart is with with

(55:27):
team us A and I'm hoping we can be at
our tribals.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
I think I think the goaltender is is is the
X factor. I liked. I like the guy. He's just
he's just better.

Speaker 5 (55:37):
And I and as we say on our broadcast when
we do the Winnipeg Jet games, how a buck of
a goaltender?

Speaker 1 (55:43):
He's uh, we would say on the set, he's good
at hockey, really really good at hockey. I guess a
couple of the things before I let go, I thought
it was listen. I know there's a lot of things
that go into it, but the fact that Finland didn't
play Coppo Cocko in the first game, a game that
was going to be played along the wall, a heavy game,
a game that he needed all that, and they just

(56:04):
get drilled by the US. He comes back and by
what the second period of the of the first game,
he's playing on the top line. I thought Krack and
fans should be thrilled what they saw from number eighty four.

Speaker 5 (56:15):
Yeah, he played really well. He did, you know, younger
guy and I get it. I understand. You know, a
certain situations, you get a certain number of players to
choose from or whatever. Yeah, I would have had him
in a bigger body type of game, especially with the
Ka Chuck brothers in there. But he came in, he
got the big goal. He was very instrumental in the
one goal. You know the game that I did against Canada.

(56:36):
Watching the game, you know in Montreal, when Sin was
able to beat Sweden, I thought he was very effective.
I thought he had a couple of really strong shifts
against against the team Canada, in that game against Boston,
and look, I think general manager Ron Francis made a
solid trade. I mean it was a really good trade,
so win win for both. YEA Rangers needed a vetter

(56:57):
defense and Will Morgan, you know, he was a great defer.
He was a very good for the Seattle Kracking, and
the Kracking needed to make a change and they got
depth on the back end. And Tacos come in and
has got great chemistry with Maddie and with Jayden and
his turn both of you know, his turn Maddie season around,
There's no doubt about that. And I think Jayden sports
has been the most consistent forward all season long with
the way that he has played and put the buck

(57:17):
in the back of the.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
Final thing for you, ed Zoe, Crack and fans. They
got the two games this week in Florida Tampa, both
at three o'clock. We'll have him here on nine three
point three KJFM, also over the Crack and Hockey Network
two thirty pre game each day Pacific time. Then Saint
Louis before they come home next Saturday. It's they're eleven out,
four teams in between them and Vancouver right now. The
Crack and it doesn't look good. Zero point eight percent chance.

(57:40):
If you want to look at some of the numbers
of making the playoffs. We're kind of in that mode.
You've been there before. What's going on in that locker room?
What's going on in that room? Because they're probably looking around.
There's gonna be guys moved. I think that's safe to say.
And I've told fans just before you may see some
of your favorites not here in a few weeks time.
So what's going on in that locker room right now?

Speaker 5 (57:58):
Yeah, whatever the percentages are, you win that first game
against Florida, those numbers are going to go off the end.
I read it, you know, like, I mean, that's the
way you got to look at it. You got to
go on a run, you gotta go on a heater.
And yeah, it's going to be difficult, there's no doubt
about it. But as I said in training camp, as
I set fifteen games in, and as I said thirty
five games in, this team assembled is good enough to

(58:22):
make the playoffs. And to this point it hasn't. It
hasn't manufactured, and you're eleven points out. So something has
to give that. There's no other way to say. It.
I like the team. This is the best team the
Cracking it had since they've come into the league. There's
no doubt about it. And it's disappointing. The power play
has been awful, and yeah, has it had some games.

(58:46):
It has had some stretches. Yeah, But is the power
play and the people that they have on it and
have the ability to have on it, this thing should
be way better and that wins you five to seven
games into the fifty five game that the Crack and
have played so far, Now do that math, that's ten
to twelve to fourteen points. Where does that put them?

(59:07):
If you have a better power play? And we've talked
about it. Look, we've talked about it on the show.
Let's just call it what it is. It's been a
major disappointment. So if you look at what's done, is done.
They got to correct the problem. And whether it's seven
games from now, it's eighty, you know, after eighty two
games or whatever, the fact. Again, for what it's worth, again,

(59:27):
that's just one sin's opinion. And I've been around the
block a few times. I said it. I'm going to
be consistent. I'm not going to stray from it. They
haven't performed to their ability, and then the next question
is is why, And then that's for the powers of
be that's ownership, that's the hockey operations department, and then
that's the guys inside that dressing room. So you got

(59:48):
to go on a run, and hey, look at if
you win five in a row, maybe you could close
the gap to I don't know, six or seven. It's
tough to give yourself a hole, and they've certainly done that,
there's no doubt about. And they need to start off
in a big way against the Florida Panthers at defending
Stomach and A Cup champions on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Who might have some guys that are fairly fatigued since
half their roster is playing in the Four Nations.

Speaker 5 (01:00:10):
So yeah, that is true. That is true, and maybe
you could take a little bit of advantage of that.
But I'm I'm looking forward to at reception for Monty
and for Josh Brandon Monto and josh Uma Hura going
back to Florida for the first time. I'm sure they're
going to get a I'm sure they're going to get
a unbelievable warm welcome again. Two acquisitions by Total manager

(01:00:33):
Ron Francis's played. Yeah, they played to their ability. I mean,
you know, like really like when you really look at it.
So I'm excited for those guys. I'm gonna be really happy.
I'm sure it's going to be an emotional time for them.
And I look forward to getting down there with Johnny
and JT and Piper and looking forward to the next
couple of stretches that I'm able to get on the

(01:00:54):
Crack and Hockey Network.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
My friend, the Cookie Monster will be in Florida, So
Brett and I holding down the Florida here, all right,
So be nice to right.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
And I'll look forward to the Cookie Monster, and hopefully
you guys can come on empty handed because we've got
to make sure we're taking care of Johnny too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:07):
Hey listen, buddy, I appreciate this is a ton of fun.
Let's do it again. Maybe right after the trade deadline
we'll kind of reset things. But safe travels. You're all
across the country doing things, So we'll look forward to
seeing you on the Crack and Hockey Network on Saturday night.
My friend, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:21):
Keep up the great working in Eddy old check so.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Joining us take a quick break. Text nine text messages
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Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
We'll check text in just a second on the tulln
or new text line. When it's game time. It's Tully time.
Looking forward to Chuck and Buck tomorrow morning from Peoria,
talking to Jerry Depoto. I listened this morning to the
Chuck and Buck Show while I was running around a

(01:02:12):
couple errands Little Fred Fitness in the gym. Nice to
have the preset button on there on the new iHeartRadio app.
If you haven't seen it yet, go check it out.
The iHeartRadio app is free downloaded and you can you
can preset us at nine three to three point k
nine three point three KJRFM if you want. There's other
stations across the country, but really it's about us. Podcasts

(01:02:34):
are there, easy to find, easy to download. If you
miss something, you miss some of the Mariner interviews this
morning with the guys, you can go check that out.
If you miss the rant about Bruce Harrel, you can
go check that out. It's easy to see. For some reason,
that's under my recently played I have a picture of
Faine and am Softy and Jackson. That's how user unfriendly

(01:02:56):
it is. You see those guys staring you in the face. Now,
it's actually really good app. It's uh, they change things up,
just the precepts things nice. Yeah, I'll check in you
know maybe. In fact, this weekend I was kind of
curious how the t Birds are doing. Yeah, able to
get that real quick on the old Patriots. So it's
all easy. In fact, there's a Tiber logo there, Husky
game tonight, all those things that are all there for you.

Speaker 6 (01:03:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
I'm one of those guys that I have to listen
live if if we're on the air, because I do
the same thing with live broadcasts.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
I can't record. I'm not one of those guys that
can record and watch later.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
So I wait until if there's something I need to hear,
I listen to the live and then maybe it's a
weekend or later in the evening. That's when I go
back to the podcast and be like, all right, what
did I miss today?

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Go check that out new iHeartRadio app a right, let's
get two some text messages four nine four or five
one on the Tollmard text line again when it is
game time, you know it's to time. It is a
little bit different text music, but I like it. Hey,
real quick sounders, I misspoke. They're not at Starfire. They're
in Guatemala on Digua and so really you're screwed tonight

(01:04:00):
because no radio, no TV. They took it off f
S two for some reason. Yeah. Just follow Jackson on Twitter.
Reil he is.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
He's a little salty about no broadcast decision. But I
guess Lionel Messi Trump's all because they move the into
Miami game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Oh that's weird. Huh yeah, strange best player of all time,
huh strange. All right, here we go twent six. I
hate to say it because I used to watch as
many song games as possible, and I'm just hard of
hearing about them anymore. I haven't watched a full NBA
game since the Song's left. When I start to watch
when it's was born, with all these three point shots taken,
I'm afraid we'll get back. I won't be interested. Hopefully not,

(01:04:39):
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I like the open mindedness about like wanting to be
interested in them when they come back.

Speaker 7 (01:04:45):
Becau.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
There's a lot of fans out there that just because
we don't have a team, they refuse to watch, and
then therefore I think the product sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
And I never got to that point, you know, with
it right, My bitterness was there, But then I was
actually doing stuff for the LA on Comcast Sports Net
right after the Sonics left, starting in nine, so I
was kind of like still thrown into the NBA world,
which was good, and I enjoyed the games. Yeah, I
can tell you this now. I'm I just I've turned apathetic.

(01:05:14):
I just don't care. It's just been too long. We
don't have skin in the game. I don't care anymore.
I will when they come back, for sure. But in
the meantime, no, okay, what else we got here? Let's
see this monologue makes me want to fight the entire
city council. Since the two six club.

Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
In the Club two.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
Three, I was at the final save of our Sonics
rally at the Courthouse when Clay Bennett snuck out the
back door and jumped into Black ass UV. Everyone tried
to chase him, mount I was there too. That was
that was nuts. Yeah, there was a lot of there's
a lot of bitterness. Harrold was on the city council
when he took the money from OKC. Yes he was.
But Kobe were like saying, hey, you can't blame him

(01:05:54):
for that. It was already done deal. Let's again stop
with the revisionist here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Set little history lesson, go ahead, thank you for so.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
Here's how it worked. They NBA and specifically the NBA
and Clayton Bennett. They came to the city council and
the mayor and said, this was the day that the
verdict from Judge Marsha Peckman was going to come down.
We want to just have a settlement. Well what's that settlement.

(01:06:24):
It's paying off the And when you think about the
remaining debt on Kyerne, it was like it wasn't much,
especially by today's standards. And you'll have a better chance
to get a team back. If you let the team leave,
you have a better chance to get a team back,
as opposed to we could see what the verdict is
because they break the lease self to pay for money,

(01:06:46):
pay for something on the way of town instead of
seeing what the verdict is. Most legal observers not me.
People that know this stuff felt like the city was
going to win. That's why the other side came to
you offering a settlement. Yea, that's whole point. For it
to be okay. For the settlement, the council had to vote.

(01:07:06):
They voted unanimously. Bruce Harrel, By the way, how about
the strange sick twist, ironic twist the day or the
morning early morning hours after Bruce Harrel mocks Sonic and
NBA fans. Here, guess who's small business got broken into again?

(01:07:26):
Shawn Kemp's sonic legend, the one down in Soto got nailed,
this one up on first and Denny got nailed last night.
Take care of your city, Bruce, you moron. Take care
of your city, especially you like the Sonics. Take care
of small business owners like Sean Kemp. Yeah, and look
up on Lower Queen Anne. It's kind of coming back

(01:07:47):
a little bit. But there are still a lot of
empty buildings up there. Why because people don't want to
do business. Small businesses don't want any part of your city, Bruce.
That's you, Bruce. Let's see what else we got.

Speaker 3 (01:08:01):
I got one, Dear Mayor, thank you for the reminder
and painful stroll down memory lane. Honestly, I mean that
because unfortunately too many people have goldfish brains and they
don't remember that last year, let alone the harsh and
brutal history of the city's failure. Please replay that rant
every day. Mind us to blame. Who's deserving of arbitrial?

(01:08:22):
Uh two oh six?

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Herold was horrible on the council, just as bad, if
not worse, as a mayor, empty suit, weakling, pathetic joke.
Let's see, that was absolutely wonderful. Thank you, and I
think we all needed that again. A couple people going,
this isn't great. He didn't vote for the Sonics to
believe they were already gone? Why lie, I don't know.
I was there. I'm not lying. I'm just telling you
what happened. I mean I can. I can make stuff up.

(01:08:46):
This isn't a pining. That's actually what happened. Yeah, that's
actually what happened. On July second, two thousand and eight,
sitting down the street three fifty one Elliott, fourth floor
in the studio with Brian Robinson, who got called down
to City Council because they needed him to try to
paint the picture that this was a good thing to do.
That we're accepting this, even though again most legal experts

(01:09:09):
believed that Judge Marsha Peckman, a federal judge, would rule
and favor Seattle. And guess what would have happened. They
would have stayed for two more years minimum. And guess
what happened about twelve months later, Aubrey McClendon, who was
the other owner his business natural gas. Thing went sideways.
He commits died by suicide. I mean it went south

(01:09:32):
in a hurry. But they were gone. They would have stayed,
they'd probably would still be here and we would have had,
by the way, a team in nine, ten, eleven, twelve,
Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, James Harden, Serge Ibaka. Pretty good
team and what's the finals? They were okay? Yeah, you

(01:09:52):
think in market twelve with things could have got better.
Maybe they would have kept some of those guys there too.
I think so maybe.

Speaker 5 (01:09:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:00):
Two, anybody that says Messi is the best player of
all time doesn't know the game. Well, I would ask
you two, five, three, who do you think is best
player of all time?

Speaker 5 (01:10:07):
Pale?

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Do you think? So? It's just my go to answer.
That's fair I mean he was pretty good. It was
pretty good. Yeah, and he wasn't high on co collect
the guy from Argentinas. Yeah. Two six, keep Howard out.
I get upset with the other teams in town. Partner
with Starbucks. I know they have to still bugs me.
Do not them, Let do not let them near the Sonics.
The word poison is perfect. And if you miss that,

(01:10:30):
it was brought up by Chris Daniels today with new
Guy MJ and the midday New Guy guy. It was
he brought Chris Daniels dropped this little nugget in there.
And even Mark who's only been here a week, whoa what?
Wait a second, hold on that. There's a thought that
Schultz could be part of the minority ownership group of
the Sonics when they come back. No, nothing, No, you

(01:10:59):
can't do that. You cannot do that. Where's my one
from two three?

Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
By chance, was Jerry Dipoto part of the city Seattle
city counsel at any time? Take a key job for
a guy who likes to do people favors.

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
No, Keith, he wasn't. But here's the interesting thing. Forty
eight hours after Bruce Harrell takes the mantle as the
most hated man by sports fans in the city of Seattle.
The former title holder will be on with Chuck and
Buck tomorrow. Jerry Depoto, Actually it was Jerry Jerry er stand.
If you were to pick, like, you can only have
one who's more disliked. I think Jerry's more disliked because

(01:11:37):
he's a face. Yeah, and just the way he talks,
you mean, his condescending tone.

Speaker 3 (01:11:42):
Yeah, how he talks down to fans and media. Yeah,
that's gonna be That'll be an interesting interview tomorrow. Yes,
it's must listen for me. That's That's one of those
on my app where I'm gonna be listening live.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I need I need Chuck just to go after him.
I have a feeling you will. You did stove with him?
I did stove? Did I see what you did there?

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Anyone else who's listening knows how Chuck Start changed his
tone a little bit. He used to be a pretty
big defender of the rebuild and Jerry's you know position
all that, But I think he's starting to get a
little frustrated. So we'll see, uh how that goes tomorrow.
I'm curious to see what he.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Asks stove stove.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
And remember it won't be like, why aren't you spending
because like supposedly that's not up to him. But there's
a lot of opportunities for trades in terms of trading
your number one prospectory that supposedly you have to get
players to win.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
Now, we're gonna play the if game all year by
the way that gave us yesterday, We're gonna play that
all year game.

Speaker 3 (01:12:44):
I like that theory. If you have so many ifs,
your team sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Final one, two, five three. I heard after the State
of the city addressed the mayor beat up a third
grader and kicked a puppy, but he was just kidding.
Well that love that you guys are awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:13:02):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Fane joins me. It joins me. Next quick note, just
saw this. Are friends at the thirty two Bar and
Grill tomorrow or throwing a watch party for the championship
game and the four Nations face off? Specials begin at

(01:13:24):
four seating first come, first serve. I would get there
no later than four for the five o'clock drop of
the bucket game that you can hear right here on
ninety three point three KJRFM. Dick Fane is distraught over
the fact that he gets off early tomorrow.

Speaker 8 (01:13:37):
Yeah, you know that's too bad, crying shame. Glad US
made the finals. Hey, way to go USA.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Hey you're glad and sore the networks.

Speaker 7 (01:13:47):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Food specials two dollars off poutine for the Canadians, Coors
Light buckets of beer and Molson buckets of beer on sale,
so they've got if you're a Canadian, you can drink
your Molson American, you can drink a Coors Lights. All
American burger specials as well. So all kinds of food
and drink specials at thirty two Bar and Grill. I
understand the place was jammed for the Finland game against

(01:14:10):
the US that they thought was gonna be Coppo Cocko's
first game in the Four Nations. He of course a
healthy scratch that first game and then played the next
two and played great in the next two. But they
say it was crazy out there for all those games
at the Four Nations. So head on out there, get
there early tomorrow. Still hand out Canadian flags, hand out
USA flags. Place. I think it's an American bar. I
think they'll be thin, so they're serving an all American burger. Yeah,

(01:14:33):
now now they are. They're smart. They do have the
poutine specials and they get the Mulsen specials. It's I'm
mean to guess it's gonna be a rather raucous crowd,
especially based on how the games have gone so far.
And I don't know if you guys know this, there's
some things going on between the two countries. Yeah, actually
not between the two countries, just a leader in the country.
But that's neither here nor there. It seems like we

(01:14:55):
can't quite separate church and state sports and football politics
these days. You know, so way you go huge basketball
game tonight Rutgers in Washington, you.

Speaker 8 (01:15:04):
Know that this Rutgers team, This Rutgers team reminds me
of the Isaiah Stewart Jabie McDaniels Washington team. It's like
two unbelievable talents and they suck.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
You know what they And you thought I was gonna
say the god Zaga Wazoo game, but that's six o'clock,
that's on ESPN. Two years I.

Speaker 8 (01:15:21):
Watched them both. I'm gonna I'm gonna do. I'm going doubleheader,
dude Dix and I will be watching. We're going double
header basketball.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
We'll see if we'll see if Wazoo cares if they
can bring some I mean, just the Pacific loss sucked
the life out of them, like literally suck the life
one of them, honestly, the first one. Yeah, the first one.
But they played with six scholarship guys that game, and
no excuse. At some point when you lose everybody, you're
not gonna be good. Like guys they didn't play that game.

(01:15:47):
And that was when you lose that quad four game
at home, they knew they were done. Yeah, like they
knew they were done. They knew they were done. And
they haven't been the same since. But they'll have the
sellout crowd at Beasley tonight. It's been sold out for weeks.
It's going to be crazy in there. Gonzaga is good
for business, There's no doubt about that. They are really
good for business to be a cool atmosphere. So we'll
see if they can crank it up.

Speaker 8 (01:16:07):
I have a tough time rooting against Wazoo, even against
even when they're playing Gonzaga, just because I love Isaiah
so yeah, I mean, he's just my guy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
If he hadn't been missed, if he hadn't missed a
month and a half, it would be a different, different
story because he's playing really Coward's an NBA NBA player
that got hurt, you know, ten games in when they
were pen and O. You know, like I mean, it's
just it's interesting because I bring up two really good
players for Wazoo. And usually in college basketball, if you
have like two just absolute horses, two thoroughbreds, you're going

(01:16:41):
to be at least a tournament. Absolutely. And you know
who's proven that wrong. You mentioned the Washington team.

Speaker 8 (01:16:46):
LSU did with Ben Simmons then another guy.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Yeah, And and Rutgers is the same way. And I
brought up the Rutgers Sho Shack and Stanley Roberts. Yeah
for that, Yeah, and they would have a good tournament. No,
And and Rutgers has two guys that we drafted in
the top five of the NBA draft and they are
not good. That's crazy. That's a coaching change coming, you
know what I think it is. I think it also
shows a little bit what happens in today's nil world

(01:17:11):
at that sport level. If you spend a bunch of
money on one or two guys and you don't have
anything left over to supplement that roster, you're in trouble.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
That's called the Cincinnati Bengals twenty twenty four.

Speaker 1 (01:17:23):
Or not so great Osa War and the rest of
the team this year. Yeah, two million dollar player and
you're not so great or some more because he's not
he in a two million dollars player. Agree, But that's
money not well spent. And that's the hard thing with
the world of nil period, right right, Because I mean Rutgers,
you still team's got two top five picks their tournament team.

(01:17:45):
No they're not, No, they're not. They're barely a big might.
We're gonna knock them out a Big ten tournament tonight
with a dub.

Speaker 8 (01:17:50):
No, not entirely, but we're going to take the spot
from him, at least temporarily.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
If you didn't like that mc mccrodon not doing well
last night, that was not good for you guys in
Minsoda getting a win. So yeah, all right, what else
get coming up today?

Speaker 8 (01:18:02):
We got Hugh Millin, We've got Dan Bilesman. We'll talk
a little four Nations with with Dan Bilesman, three forty
five Petros Papa Dagas at four o'clock today as well,
so UH and we'll talk with Chuck from UH from Peoria.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I got ad Poto on tomorrow. That would be interesting. Wow,
what time is that? I don't know. Hopefully he knows
by then, so they were still waiting. Oh boy, that's
a must listen, I think so. All right, Fade and
Hugh coming up next to you.

Speaker 8 (01:18:27):
For the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
This is paddle day, saying so long everyone,

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