Furness Show 3-25: Cal Raleigh Extended, Steve Palazzolo, Sam Darnold.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Lots going on. Man, what a crazy busy day. Sports.
First of all, shout out to UH to the crew.
We all came in early today, early for us being
nine o'clock. But found out why I like the mid
days because traffic isn't what it normally is in the middays.
Oh my gosh, oh yo yo. The importance of the
morning radio show at KJR was readily on display for

(00:21):
me today driving in for two hours. That was That
was something else. I think you know what it was
to like fog, like we just find like.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
I drove through a cloud.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Well I was in a cloud the whole way. Yeah,
and then I think that's what it is. I think
our our town can't drive in snow. The rain really
throws people off because it never rains here. That throws
people off. And fog today because there was there wasn't
an accident or a stalled vehicle to be found on
the on the route I took, and it's the same
route it's normally thirty five minutes if there's no traffic.

(00:52):
So yeah, just cruising along today. Lots of fun and
but we got in and we had two hours on
the round table. It was fun.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
It sounds so good.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
The podcast will be up on all the podcast pages, right, all.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Of the shows, everyone who participated, it'll be on all
the show pages.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Okay, perfect, All right, let me just make sure we
know two o'clock, so about fifty four minutes from now,
Sam Darnold's see how quarterback's gonna jump on the show
and call me in and we'll have him on live.
We're looking forward to that conversation. And you know, he
kind of crushed his news conference. Was it a week ago?

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22):
I was there and.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
It was two weeks ago. Two weeks ago. I think
it was two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was a Thursday.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
It was two weeks ago. Yeah, it was two weeks ago.
But he crushed that. It was a ton of fun.
So we're gonna we're gonna have him on for the
first time. So we haven't had a I don't know
if Gino ever did radio on our station.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
No, he did after he signed his new contract. He
went on with you first.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
He did.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, own that.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Okay, yeah, so first time I had to go. Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
I remember we had some technical difficulties because we had
to jump into a different studio.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah, and still he hung on for it. He was
very generous with his time.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
How did I forget the fact that we had the technically?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Why did I bring that up?

Speaker 5 (02:08):
You didn't forget it because it happens so much, you know, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
It's like daily. Well, god, now we just checked you
know what? You know, what do I sound? Okay?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
What's softy right now?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Anyway, Yes, Gino did come on with us, and that
was really awesome of him, and.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
That was the last time. I don't think he was
on any other shows after that, and it was just
kind of like he signed. Yeah, so that's cool. Have
the Seahawks starting quarterback conversation? Great? So well that at
two o'clock today and then we'll talk to Palazolo here
in about fifteen minutes. We want to We spent a
ton of time this morning talking about offensive lineman, interior
offensive lineman, just the the lack of good drafting by
the Seahawks for the offensive line. So we'll go through

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some of the names you should know for the draft.
Palozolo's got that list, and we'll we'll start breaking guys down.
I don't know if any of them, and I don't
Steven doesn't do this. I don't think Cossell does either.
But you know, we always Holmegroun always tells us about
how many guys have first round great, right, like first
round great for a draft. I don't think any of
these guys truly have a first round grade, but there

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will be guys that go in the first round and
whether a guy goes at eighteen to Seattle or somewhere else.
So we'll talk about the top guys coming up with
Palozolo Daily power Play one forty five again Darnold at
two four nine, four to five one. Text in your thoughts, comments, questions,
and concerns. Let's just get to this real quick. The
cal Raley signs or has signed or has agreed to
a contract, everyone's reporting it, passing Rosenthal, Divish blah blah

(03:27):
blah everyone. So we'll just try to give it attribution
to everybody. The bottom line is this, it's a win win.
It's a win for the team. It's a win for
col he gets a guaranteed a hundred million dollars plus payday,
and I think it's a win for the fans as well.
The day that Scott Boris was no longer the agent
for cal Rawley, I think a lot of the stress
left the city in terms of will Cow will Big

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dump or re sign with Seattle agreed because there's no
way Boris is gonna let him resign here. He's anti Seattle,
He's anti everything. And so that happened. And the guy
that is one of the top players at his position
in the game was a gold glove and a platinum
glove and all the platinums and goals he won last year,
but also hits big play, you know, hits big home

(04:10):
runs and does his thing and just an immensely popular player,
a team leader in every sense of the word, is
going to be here for a while. And that's a
that's a win for the organization, that's a win for
everyone around. And I think we all listen when the
streaming app was announced, that should have been good news
Formericer fans, it wasn't. People got pissed. Yeah, they were unhappy.

(04:31):
I think this is one of those things I think
you'd have to really really try hard, like you really
have to try hard.

Speaker 5 (04:38):
Oh they're still out there ian the ones that are
not happy about this?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
Why what? What is the negative to this?

Speaker 4 (04:44):
The main thing?

Speaker 6 (04:45):
And I don't disagree with this thought, but this isn't
what you should be thinking about at this point, is like,
this doesn't make this team any better. He was already
going to be on the twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
Yeah, sure, I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, but that's not a negative.

Speaker 7 (04:56):
It's just it's just a fact.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes it is. It's just it's a fact that, yes,
it does not make today's team better, but it does
make the next year and the year after and the
year after. And I think he's two years away from
actual free agency. They locked another of their few of
their homegrown They really have two homegrown players if we
don't include the.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Pitchers, right, Yeah, they have grown position players.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Yeah, that are good that we know that we can
truly say are good. And Leo and Julio and Cal
and they've both been signed to long term extensions. And
that's a win for the organization. I know nobody wants
to give these guys credit for anything. Everything is negative,
everything is bad, blah blah blah. I get all that.
This is a big, big deal for Seattle, and it's
a great deal for Seattle. It's a great deal for

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you as a fan as well. So like, let's enjoy
this thing. Today's not the days to tear apart ownership
or what have you. Today's a day to be happy
as a mannor fan because finding that type of player
is hard. You don't find offensive minded catchers anymore in baseball.
They're hard to come by. They're hard to find. And
why it's a win win all the way around. It's

(05:57):
a win for Cal two because you know what hurt
Chris on when he was cheating earlier on me? Yeah,
one half of the guys, And yes I did. I
did suggest that.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
The narrative that Chris cheating.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'm going the narrative Chris is cheating.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
Okay, even though you're the one that exitsfort But you know,
I think you know, he brought up a good point.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
I was talking to one of the guys here. You know,
we share the studios here with the root guys that
do the Mariners, like MLB TV whatever it is. Now
when we're talking about this, you know, he plays so much,
and he plays a position that is so physically demanding
on the body. Uh, you know, and and like Chris
was saying, it's true, like like this is a guy
that probably needs a d H a little bit more

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in the coming years. Uh, and his body could certainly
break down at any point. But he's got that money
in the bank, and that's good for him for the Mariners. Listen,
there's no salary cap, so this isn't like signing, you know,
like when people say in the NHL, you sign a
hockey player to a max deal seven years, eight years,
whatever it is you do that, there's a lot Oh
what's he gonna be you like at thirty three or
thirty four.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
And you're not signing in Cal to like forty and
paying in twenty million, right, And it doesn't matter, right.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Because there's no cap. It does not matter. It's not
your money, it's not my money, it's it's Stanton's money.
But there's no cap to worry about, like there are
another sports, so it doesn't matter. Like the Raiders, if
you signed Gino to a long term deal, he's be
thirty nine years old. Yeah, that's that's a concern in
the salary cap league. There is none here. So it's
a win for Cal, it's a win for the team,
and it's a win for the fans. And for anybody

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to think there's a negative aspect to it, I just
at this point you should just kind of just find
another team to root for. Honestly, like, just go find
another team, because if you can't find a positive in this,
and if you want to pick apart this signing, then
you really just want the team to be bad. You
really aren't a fan of the team. You can't be
if you want if you think it's a bad thing,
because it is a good thing. It's one hundred percent

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of good thing. The biggest concern we had a year
and a half ago, even last year we talked about this, God,
what happens if cal hits the free agent market and
Boris is his agent, He's gone. There's no way they'll
be able to retain him. Well, he turfed Boris and
he re signed, So that's that's a pretty good thing.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
What a pro move to turf Boris too? Right, Like
that doesn't happen very often.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
No, that's that's that takes a little bit of gumpsh
I don't know. I mean, it's you know, like if
you're a Boris client or you're a or you're a client,
you know, yes, yeah, those guys have the same they
have so many big dudes, you're probably not getting the
attention you want either, you know. That's the other thing. Yeah,
all right, we got to take a break. Steve Palozolo
thirty thirteen. We'll talk offensive lineman. Can the Seahawks find

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a guy? Does it have to be an eighteen or
can they find a guy later in the draft. Can
they improve their offensive line through the draft. That's the
big question we'll find out.

Speaker 9 (08:40):
Next, we're diving into the numbers and the grades around
the NFL with Steve Felazolo from the thirty third team.
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Speaker 4 (09:06):
Now with Ian, here's Steve Fellazolo.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Steve Fellosol thirty thirteam, joining us as he does as
we head into the draft week and just went over
a month away, a little over a month away for
the NFL Draft. Hello Steve, how are you dude?

Speaker 4 (09:21):
And great? Thanks for having me as always.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I appreciate you jumping on. Let's let's let me start
with this.

Speaker 7 (09:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
We we talked, We're gonna talk interir offensive lineman as
far as the draft is concerned. In a second, I
want to get your thoughts on the following quote from
John Schneider. He said on his radio show. He says,
you can't just throw money at marginal players. We want
to be a championship team. We don't want to be
an average team. So we can sign guys that can
fill a specific role. But it's to a point right now,

(09:47):
you're not gonna go sign a guy that's for sure
gonna be or starting left guard or right guard. He's
getting some heat for that. He doesn't like to overpay
for interior offensive lineman. I do get the point where
he says, you can't just throw money at marginal play
And you know, I don't know if that would be
like a Will Fryes or guys like that. Tevin Jackson
would have you. But two things, what do you think
about the comment? And two are there any guys left

(10:10):
on the free agent market veteran wise that would be
an upgrade for Seattle?

Speaker 10 (10:16):
Yeah, I think they're running out of those players at
the moment. I would have said Tevin Jenkins would would be.
I mean, I think I'm higher on Tevin Jenkins than
maybe the rest of the NFL. I tend to be
higher on players than the NFL guys that have an
injury history. It's it's easier for me to say that
because I'm not dealing with the missed games. But I
think Tevin Jenkins would would have been the upgrade. I

(10:38):
think you are running out though, so I think you know,
the context of the quote from John is important, one
of them being right now, are you going to find
an upgrade at this very moment, after all of free
agency is mostly done?

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Probably not.

Speaker 10 (10:50):
And there's enough teams around the NFL that are, you know,
holding on to their own offensive line starting offensive linemen
and they're not letting those guys hit the market. So
it's a it's a difficult spot right now. I would
just say the only thing I would say is the
idea of average. You know, again, this is like a
I don't know, however you wanted to find that concept.
I always joke that if you have a bad offensive line,

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you need to get it back to average, right.

Speaker 4 (11:14):
You at least need to get it to serviceable.

Speaker 10 (11:17):
And so you know, if you had five serviceable starters
on the offensive line, you can win with that, whereas
if you have five, you know, serviceable defensive linemen, it's
not as it's not as good.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
You want more disruptors there.

Speaker 10 (11:29):
So the word average I use says like, look, if
you're below average on the offensive line, you better get
some upgrades quickly. So that's where I might disagree a
little bit. But it's all relative, right, I mean, if
you know you have a guy that can start, that
is valuable on the offensive line. But I do agree
with the point that it is difficult to find players

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you know that can step in and do that right now.

Speaker 4 (11:53):
And I would say Will Frys is is a huge risk.

Speaker 10 (11:56):
That Minnesota made eighty eight million dollars over four or
five years for a guy that you know, using PFF
grades has basically a five year goods a five game
good stretch in an okay season.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
As a starter. So I think that is risky, and
I think that's.

Speaker 10 (12:10):
Probably a little bit of what John's talking about throwing
many of players that are riskier and don't necessarily have
a great track record of success on the offensive line.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
Before we talk about specific names interior offensive lineman this
year's draft, you know, I hear it's a deep group,
but maybe not top heavy in terms of high end talent.
How would you describe overall the guys we're going to
talk about in terms of interior offensive lineman in the draft.

Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, I think it's just okay overall. I think there's
some truth in what you're saying. You're not getting.

Speaker 10 (12:43):
You know, in some years you get like the Quenton
Nelson or you get this slam duck type of guard
where you're saying, hey, how high can I take this guy?
Or it's center, like a Tyler Linderbaum, How high can
I take this guy who looks like one of the
better center or guard prospects that we've seen in years.
I don't think we have that in this year's draft.
So most of the talk in this year's draft was

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maybe one or two interior offensive linemen sneaking into the
first round. And then historically, if you look at position
trends around the NFL, and I think John has referenced
this a lot, and as part of the reason why
he doesn't want to take a first round guard center
is because historically you find a lot of starters on
Day two, and you can find starters all the way

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into Day three, right, So round two and three for
sure is where you generally find value for guards and centers,
and then even on day three sometimes you can find
some value. So I think this draft is similar as
far as that day two, round two and three mix.
You definitely have some players that can you step in
and become starters.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
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All right, let's talk about some of the names. Tyler Booker,
Gray's Abel in Jackson, those kind of seemed to be
the top three guys. Do you do you like one

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is the top one along the way and any of
those guys first round worthy at number eighteen, well, you know, like.

Speaker 10 (14:10):
Any other position, the fit is going to be huge,
and I do think with Seattle it's a very specific
fit with Klint Kubiak coming in and that that offense
they run the wide zone that the Shanahan scheme has
you know, made famous through the years, So that is
a slightly different style player. So I think for that
for those purposes, I got like Gray's Abel does make
a lot of sense. That guy you know, played left

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tackle at North Dakota State, made a huge name for
himself during Senior Bowl Week. He stepped in, played some guard,
played some center, really held his own in all the
pass pro drills. He was kind of the name that
everybody that was at the Senior Bowl kept mentioning as
one of the Senior Bowl Week winners had to find combine.
So I think I think from a steam fit perspective,
he makes a lot of sense. Tyler Booker is interesting

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because he on paper doesn't fit the scheme whatsoever. More
of an old school, downhill throwback type of gu you know,
you know, one of those you know, phone booth type
of mauling guards. Right, that's gonna move people off the ball.
But anytime you're asking him to move lattery laterally, it
doesn't look great. And that showed up if the combine
had a you know, kind of a blow average workout

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as far as the movement skills go. It is interesting
though there are players who did that similarly in recent years.
Guy like Aaron Banks came out of Notre Dame, was
a multiple year starter for the Niners and he just
got paid in free agency. Banks didn't look like a
Shanahan type of guard, but they still drafted him, developed him,
and he became a serviceable starter.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
So never say never.

Speaker 10 (15:35):
But on paper, it looks like a guy like Tyler
Booker isn't a great fit even though he's the consensus
top guard, and a guy like Gray's Abele in particular
looks like he would be a really nice fit for
Seattle system.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Yeah, Graysabel by the ways from North Dakota State and
Tyler Booker from Alabama, and he's describing Tyler Booker, I'm
thinking that just sounds like every interior offensive lineman that
Alabama has produced, like ever, like just big I was
road greater, maybe not the athletic dude in the world.
This is gonna, you know, beat you up at the
line of scrimmage.

Speaker 10 (16:04):
I was trying to look up players with as slow
of a three cone, as slow of a shuttle as Slova,
as of a forty, as as Tyler Booker, and Chance
Warmack was one of the guys who came up former
top ten.

Speaker 4 (16:15):
Pick out of Alabama at guard. So it was funny. Yeah,
he is.

Speaker 10 (16:20):
He is very much in line with a bunch of
the previous Alabama guards historically.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
What is Zabel from North Dakota State. So he was
a tackle at North Dakota State and then they moved
the Senior Bowl. They decided, hey, let's let's move you inside.
Teams want to see him play inside. And you said
he looked pretty good there he did.

Speaker 10 (16:35):
Yeah, he played center too. I think some teams will
have him as a center. And you know, it's kind
of like what Graham Barton did last year out of Duke,
where Barton played left tackle in college. And I think
size wise and movement wise, arm length wise, a lot
of people liked Barton as a guard or a center.
He ended up getting drafted in the first round, started
at center for the Bucks. I think Zabel similar. He's

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got good. He's six six three twelve is what he
weighed in at the combine, thirty two inch arms, so
that's the you know, you usually want to see that
at thirty three per tackle, So that almost immediately put
him as an interior player. I think he could play
guard or guard or center. And like I said, he
really held his own, especially in the one on one
drills where offensive linemen are supposed to lose. Those drills,

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you know, you don't have help. There's no double teams.
You're one on one against the defensive lineman who you
know doesn't have to worry about gap control getting after
the quarterback you're supposed to lose, and Zabel did a
great job holding his own in pass.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Protection throughout the week. During the Senior Bowl you.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Were down there. Do you like him as a center?

Speaker 11 (17:32):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (17:33):
Yeah, I think he can do both. I think that
versatility is huge. And again, much like Barton would Duke.
Like if Barton got drafted somewhere else, he might have
played guard, but the Bucks liked him as a center
and they had a need there. So I could see
Zabel being a guard or center depending on where he
gets drafted.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, because I'm intrigued by that, because I mean, Seattle,
depending on if and we don't know if their new
offensive line coach Benton likes, you know, likes Oulu Timmy,
and you know, Schneider's kind of made a point of saying, hey,
we probably have some guys here, whether it be oh,
you know, Olu a Timmy, their center that they drafted
two years ago on Day three out of Michigan. Maybe
along the way it could be a guy like you know,

(18:07):
La Maya out of Utah last year who played some
right guard for him. At the end of the year,
they talked about Jason They we kind of feel like
they like one or two of those guys, and that's
maybe why they haven't done this. And so it's the
new offensive line coach, new scheme, and maybe some of
those guys fit. So is there a need of center,
Maybe maybe not, Maybe there's just needed guard. Who knows,
but Sable does intrigue me a lot? What about this
is the guy we talked about a lot. At least

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we talked We heard his name a lot because you know,
they I don't know, won a national championship and everything,
so we saw him playing a ton and and you know,
watching what their offense was doing. Is Donovan Jackson from
Ohio State. What are your thoughts on him?

Speaker 10 (18:40):
Yeah, just a fascinating prospect because he's he is a guard,
you know, he's a guard type of body. And then
the potential first round left tackle Josh Simmons at Ohio
State got hurt about seven or eight games into the year.
Donovan Jackson kicked out from guard to tackle and he
was the left tackle on that run. And he was
fantastic during the playoffs. His first game, I believe his
first game was against Penn State and at Duel Carter

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it was okay, Like you know, for Donovan Jackson.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
It was okay for a guard. I mean it was
good for a guard.

Speaker 10 (19:07):
It was okay, you know, for a guy playing tackle
at Duel Carter got him a few times, but Jackson
did a nice job filling in at left tackle. So
between his ability to kick out to play tackle down
the stretch and then he's at the combine and he's
kind of playing through injury, I think the broadcast was
talking about that, Charles Davis talking about how he's playing
through injury and hobbling through it. I think teams are

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gonna love Donovan Jackson. And there were there was talk about, hey,
how much we'll kicking out to left tackle hurt his
draft stock if he goes out there and you know,
the PFF grade doesn't show up great or he looks bad,
And those were legitimate questions, but Jackson did it anyway.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I think teams are gonna love that.

Speaker 10 (19:44):
And again he kept improving and and he locked down
the left side during that stretch run. So I think
he's one of those Day two types. Again, I don't
think he's gonna play tackle at the next level, but
just the.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Ability to do that.

Speaker 10 (19:56):
You see a lot of college guard NFL guards who
played tackle in college. Cooper Beebe is a guy that
comes to mind. Played center last year for the Cowboys,
but when he was at Kansas State, he had to
play left tackle and held his own.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
And I think that.

Speaker 10 (20:09):
Bodes well when you see those guys hold up at tackle,
even if they're projected a guard. And I think that's
just a feather in the cap for Donovan Jackson, who
looks like, yeah, probably the second or third best guard.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
In this draft.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Steve Pallas over about to by Georgetown Brewing talking NFL Draft,
getting ready with the interior offensive lineman today after Jackson,
and I'm gonna butcher the kid's name for Arizona, Jonah
sava aya Ana. I don't know. There's him, Marcus Mbau
from Purdue, Tate Rattledge from Georgia, Jared Wilson from Georgia.

(20:42):
Do we start kicking into Day three at that point?
Are those guys all still Day two guys in which
guys jump out at you?

Speaker 4 (20:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (20:49):
So consensus board wise, and I used I just use
a consensus board. It's just a way of gauging where
the value is in the market. A lot of those
guys are definitely day two. I mean we're talking round
like late round two and into round three. Depending on need,
they'll go a little bit higher. Arizona kid, I'm not
completely high on.

Speaker 4 (21:05):
I think he's you know, he's a he's another tackle
type of conversion. MBO.

Speaker 10 (21:11):
I believe that's the name from uh Marcus Mbo from Purdue.
He's the guy that I watched who kind of reminded
me of Christian Haynes. And I know Haynes had his
struggles at times as a rookie and special especially in
pass protection. But last year's Seattle third rounder, I thought, Mbo,
he's he's gonna be a right tackle conversion. He's right
around three hundred pounds, so a little undersized, but he
is extremely quick. I mean, the guy moves so well.

(21:33):
And when you think of that the old the the
outside zone scheme and what you're asking those guys to do,
You're asking them to explode off the ball, you know,
make backside cutoffs, make front side cutoffs. Basically just be
a little bit quicker than that defensive tackle and get
yourself into position to make those run blocks. Mbo looks
like he could be a really really nice fit for
what Seattle wants to do. So he's the guy that

(21:54):
I would peg. Is maybe that that Day two type
of fit again, much like a Christian Haynes. And I think,
by the way, I think Haynes does fit the new
scheme really really well. He's got to be better in
past pro anchor a little bit better. But Haines, you know,
who struggled as a rookie. But I think he's he'd
be actually a good fit for what they have. And
then all the Georgia guys are intriguing to me. Tate Ratledge, Yeah,

(22:18):
Sora Ratledge is the guard.

Speaker 4 (22:20):
That had the mullet. He had a beautiful mullet running
through the forty.

Speaker 10 (22:26):
Dylan Fairchild, both of those guys pretty big guards. I
like both of those guys. And Jared Wilson might be
the best pure center in the entire draft. So I
think the Georgia interior offensive line are all worth a
look in all potential Day two or maybe into Day
three type of picks.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
My god, I'm just looking at that list right now
thinking get the entire interior of the Georgia offensive line.
Our guys are going to go on day two, well
probably day two, maybe day three, But those guys are
all gonna get draft. Got is that not Georgia sec
football and nuts Shell Steve the fact that, yeah, yeah,
we had three offensive linemen. Maybe they have a tackle
out there too. I'm not looking at the tackle page,
but they probably had a tackle too. They're probably on

(23:02):
entire offensive line goes the NFL.

Speaker 10 (23:05):
The only thing that's surprising is they're not all the
fringe first rounders you know, know in Georgia. But yeah,
I thought they worked. I was just watching them a
little bit closer today. I thought they worked really well
at this job on the interior. I thought the tackles
at Georgia may have actually been the weakness for that
offensive line this year. So I would really keep an
eye on Jared Wilson. You know, most of these guys
that we're talking about guards or tackle conversions, Wilson played center.

(23:28):
It looks like a good pure center.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
Again.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
I'm surprised he's not going a little bit higher. The
consensus sport has him at number eighty four right now.
But for center needy teams that aren't you know, taking
a guy like craze Able and moving him. I think
Wilson very much in the mix there. And like I
said with Ratledge about six six, really good size for
a guard anchors. Well, I think he'd be one of
the better pass protectors in this draft. So Tate Ratledge,

(23:52):
the other Georgia guy that I really like, played right
guard for them, and I think he would fit in
well enough with Seattle.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
One more name I want to throw at you because
it's it's a name that it sounds familiar, uh, and
also played at a smaller school. Jackson Slater is an
interior offensive line and played at Sacramento State. Feels like
he's one of those guys that's been rising up.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Yeah, Sacramento State.

Speaker 10 (24:14):
Anytime you have that, you know, the off season is
really important, and you know that's where that's where Slater's
been able to make his name a little bit. He's
six 's four six three three eleven and other you
know arm length wives you know, definitely in the in
the guard category. Had had an okay workout. I think
some of his uh, some of his jumps were pretty good.
So I think he went was he at the I

(24:36):
think he was Senior Bowl. Just checking really quick here.
He had a really nice I know, pff past blocking
grade at Sacramento last year, and yes he was at
the he was at the Senior Bowl. Didn't stand out
the same way a Gray's abel did, but he did
well in a lot of the eleven on elevens, you know,
so not as much on the the one on ones,
but in the eleven on eleven he did well.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
And that's always big.

Speaker 10 (24:57):
There's not that many small school guys anymore because they
end up transparent, so when you go there and hold
your own, it's huge, and I thought Slater did a
really nice job of doing that.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And just real quick to revisit Christian Haynes from last
year because it was I mean, you drafted a guy,
you know, in round three and and you have a
need at that position. You kind of expect him to
step in right away and play, and that just didn't
happen with him. The scheme though, you like him more
in this scheme, you think that's a better fit for him.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
I do.

Speaker 10 (25:24):
The outside zone stuff was I thought what Haines really
excelled at at Yukon. And even if you look at
last year, if you just look at some of his
better blocks. It was on Moore zone scheme type of stuff,
the gap scheme, downhill type of system or plays he
was less effective. So again, pass pro wise, that was
a concern. I mean, some of those plays were the
entire right side collapsed. Haines was a part of those,

(25:47):
and he wasn't He didn't play a ton of snaps,
but he was a part of those. He was only
out there but two hundred something snaps. So pass blocking
was an issue. But I think he would fit. I
think he fits with what they're doing. And you know,
he was awful a little bit. It looked like you
put on a little bit of weight, you know, for
the combine and heading into the next year.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
But I think he moves really well. So I would put.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
My money on Haynes getting a shot to play early
and having a chance to improve upon that rookie season
if he could get a little bit better and in
pass protection anchor a little bit better than he did
as a rookie.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
All right, my friend, what do we got going? On
the Check the Mic podcast courtesy of the thirty thirteen.

Speaker 10 (26:23):
We're just doing all draft one month out draft Draft Draft.
We are ranking quarterbacks tomorrow, which I can't stand.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
I don't like this.

Speaker 10 (26:30):
I want to keep I want to I want everybody
to be tied for like seventh in this quarterback class.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
So that's what we're gonna do tomorrow.

Speaker 10 (26:37):
We're gonna rank all the qbs and then rank all
the receivers on Thursday on Check the Mic.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Maybe we talk quarterbacks next week, since you are so
excited about talking quarterbacks on the podcast. Obviously, may we talk,
But I mean I want to talk about the guys
like Tyler, Shuck and Jackson. Like Seattle's not drafting cam Ward.
I don't care about that. They're I'll get your thoughts
next week, maybe on Shador because that's an interesting one, right,
That's that's kind of an that's an interesting one.

Speaker 10 (27:03):
But maybe it's a very interesting class for like everybody
has something that might be development worthy, but they're all
developmental type of quarterbacks you know later in the draft.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
Yeah, so maybe we'll do that next week. In the meantime,
go to where you get your podcast, Check the Mic podcast.
If you're an NFL fan, your football fan, it's you
should be Just have that subscribed already downloaded, ready to
rock and roll. Sam and Steve do a terrific job.
I know Andrews can attest to that. I can attest
to that. We both listen to it all the time.
So go check that out. Check the mic podcast. My
friend will talk to you next week.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
All right, sounds good, appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Steve Palazolo joining us. Check the mic podcast. Go find
that download and the way you go interesting. Christian Haynes
is Christian Haynes.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, I kind of like that a little assessment there.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Well, and I've heard that a little bit. I think
I heard that from Cosell as well. I've been to
ask Cosel. I think we have Cosell on tomorrow. I'll
love to ask him the same things. I think that.
I think that the whole Christian Haynes new offense zone blocking,
all the stuff that they want to do with that.
I maybe maybe it is simple as that, you know,
maybe it is a scheme fit for an offensive lineman
along the way. So we'll find out tomorrow. We'll check

(28:07):
in tooth Cob with with our guy.

Speaker 5 (28:09):
Great that Tate Ratlege mullet. Look in the Seahawks uniform.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
If you look fantastic. Yeah, I mean, I think the
last mullet they had might have been the boss. Yeah,
I mean the boss. All right. We got Daily power
Play coming up next and then top of the hour,
don't forget just after two o'clock. Right at two o'clock,
Sam Darnold's gonna join us live right sorry. Ninety three
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Speaker 7 (28:35):
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Speaker 6 (29:16):
And Calgary, Yes, Gary, No, cal Gary, Calgary.

Speaker 1 (29:23):
Cal Gary, Calgary, the Calgary Flames.

Speaker 5 (29:26):
We're not doing this.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
You guys enjoyed the tournament.

Speaker 5 (29:31):
Uh stop it, stop it please.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
Anyway? The uh we're we're.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
And he's got so much more work to do.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
I've got a lot.

Speaker 7 (29:48):
Are you rubbing that in?

Speaker 2 (29:50):
I'm empathizing?

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Is how you're doing?

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Is that what you're doing?

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Let me start this again, cracking tonight. Sandra, by the
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(30:19):
two teams it's not named Seattle, No, it would be
the Calgary Flames. They're just sitting four points out of
the playoff spot. They've got three games in hand, though
I'm Saint Louis, so this is one of the ones
you gotta go.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
Get's spoiler.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Would that'd be good? Accept except actually should be good.
Here's what Cracke have won their last four times to
Scotia Banks saddle. Though it's their longest road streak winning
wins ever against a given opponent. God is me a
long day, longest road winning streak ever against an opponent

(30:54):
four straight games. It matches an active one against Anaheim
and Buffalo, both on the road as well. Though kracking.
This is why Calgary is an outliner on this list,
but I think it's an important one to look at.
The Kracking take care of business against bad teams for
the most part. Yes, with the you know, the November
swoon against Anaheim slash Sanse notwithstanding, they do take care

(31:16):
of but the fact that they're doing it against a
good team in Calgary, it's just been a good matchup
for them along the way. They've they've lost lost eight
of the first nine, but they've won for their last
five against Calgary. So they've been doing really well against
this particular team. And uh, you know, Calgary is a
weird team. They're in the playoff race.

Speaker 5 (31:34):
They weren't supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
They're minus twenty two in goal differential. What which like
how that happens? It's I mean, they're they're they're having
a year that just doesn't make any.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
Weird Sense's weird team.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Goaltender's great Dustin Wolfe gets to start tonight. He's a
former Everge Silver Tip. I think if they get to
the playoffs, he's the NHL Rookie of the Year. One
one team got to the playoffs because the rookie the
other team didn't. I think it's honestly, it's that simple.
I mean, you can make the same argument for Land
Hudson in Montreal.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
But it's true.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Dustin Wolf's been great again. Former Silver tip been really
really good for them. And you know the fact that
they're they're sitting there at at minus. I mean, I'll
give you example, Scattle's gold differential is better than Calgary's,
so yeah by three. Yeah, So how they're in it,
I don't know, but they are, so go get them.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
A nice fun differential ian don't you know that?

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Oh we're bringing that back.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
Yeah, we are.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Well, we've talked about this morning in our the roundtable.
Dick brought it up. I think it was off the year.
Actually at the end we ran out of time. But
you know, like you know, if that matters, and him
and Chuck were talking about it, and I think baseball
run differential does kind of matter.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
It feels like it's more predictive than it is.

Speaker 1 (32:44):
That's what it is. It's predictive metric. Yeah, yeah, and
I think in the NHL, if you look at the NHL,
it's a pretty good predictive metric. Like, right, Washington is
the best team along with Winnipeg right now. They're gold
differential at plus seventy six on the season is the
same as Winnipeg plus seventy six. That's not the two
best teams in the NHL right now have the best

(33:04):
goal differential week. Yeah, plus seventy six. You look at
the other team's Dallas plus fifty five. They're the second
best team in the West right now. Yep, Golden Nights
plus forty seven. You start going through the list. I
think that is a predictive measure. That does mean something.
So the fact that Calgary is sitting in a position
to get to the playoffs, maybe they're kind of a
paper tiger. Oh and go get them tonight. So anyway,

(33:25):
Seattle Calgary five to thirty pre game, the Captain will
roll into Network Central.

Speaker 5 (33:29):
Might clean it up.

Speaker 1 (33:30):
We've cleaned it up Network Central for him after our
roundtable this morning. It's all sparkly clean in there. Nobody's
in there right now. It's all perfect. I'm here, Oh
you're there.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Yeah, so it's thirty.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Don't make a mess. People will complain.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
You got start rubbing my armpits on these mikes and.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
People will complain. The Captain likes to have a perfect
little setup.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
It actually looks perfect in here.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
Yes, good, all right again? Five thirty is our pregame show.
Two night, six o'clock drop the pot Cracking back Home
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they play the same night as opening night at T
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Speaker 5 (34:06):
Interesting and sweet sixteen.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Of who has a bigger crowd? I know there's gonna
be seventeen thousand at Climate Pledge. Who has a bigger crowd?

Speaker 5 (34:17):
Well, yeah, a Biger stadium, but yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Who has a bigger crowd Saturday?

Speaker 5 (34:23):
Probably still Marriners for opening weekend.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Do you think they'll have more than seventeen thousand?

Speaker 5 (34:28):
Yeah on a Saturday, Yeah, an opening weekend.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Oh yeah, I mean it's not really a fair comparison.

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Yeah, it shouldn't be. It shouldn't be a conversation.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
It's not a shot at the crack. I just think
I mean, no, I'm just yeah, I'm.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Just telling you, I'm not so sure. Look at the
tickets available, all right, tickets are available for opening day
for the marriage Go gohet a kick out out there
and support. If you're not going to the Cracking game,
I'd rather see you at the Cracking game personally, because
you know that's what I worked for. But if not,
I don't know. We'll take a break. Sam Darnold's coming
up next.

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Speaker 1 (35:14):
All right, we're back two o'clock Gallery internetcere with you,
and we're getting ready for the final hour of the show.
I'm at the Kracking Hockey Network TV studios getting ready
for a broadcast night Cracking at Gallery. Five point thirty
drop of the pregame six o'clock is the face off tonight.
But joining us right now on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline.
We don't want to keep this guy waiting. We're really
excited to have him on the air first time here

(35:34):
on your home for the twelfth Man to ninety three
point three KJRFM. It is your Seahawks quarterback, your new
Seahawks quarterback, Sam Darnold. Sam, how are you?

Speaker 11 (35:45):
What's up being I'm pumped me on the show Man.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I appreciate it. Now I got something for you right
off the get go. I need you to You're gonna
have fun with this. Now there's a backstory, which I'll
tell you on the other side. But do you remember
your first ever touchdown pass in the National Football League?

Speaker 11 (36:04):
Yes, I believe it was a touchdown to Robbie Anderson.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Do you remember how far it was?

Speaker 8 (36:12):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (36:13):
Man, door was like forty five yards.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Oh, you're close. Here we go. We got this one.
I'll tell you the story in the backs.

Speaker 12 (36:19):
I go ahead, anders, Sam Donald, good time looking deep
downfield into the end zone. Touchdown Jacks, Robbie Anderson, and
the first td T of Sam Donald's career goes forty
one yards.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Forty one yards.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
You're close, You're close. I only had This is the backstory, man,
you were really close, buddy, you were really close. Now
here's the backstory. Our afternoon show uses that, as they
call it, a drop in the radio business. And we've
been playing Beth Mowen saying Sam Donald in that voice
and forty one yards for about a I don't know
how long you've been the league, about eight years now,

(36:58):
seven eight years, right, We've been playing that all the time,
and now here you are in Seattle. It makes even
more sense. So it's a it's a it's come full
circle to sdam It's come full circle.

Speaker 11 (37:09):
Yeah, that's incredible, man, that it makes too much sense.
But I was, to be honest, I was kind of
pissed that I got that wrong. Man. I feel like
I should know that in about you know, if I
have that ball too. It's like right on my like
on my mantle, right on my TV, and I just
I guess I don't look at it enough.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Well, listen, we're hoping there's a heck of a lot
more of those footballs on your mantle this year. And
it's insteadive to Robbie Anderson, it's to Jackson Smith and
Jigba or Cooper Cup or whoever it may be, Marcus Faldez,
Scantling River, Creak Craft, whatever, it doesn't matter what. You're
a Seahawk now and we're happy to have you here
in Seattle. Let me ask you the obvious question. You
know you answered some of these at the news conference,
but Sam Darnold, you're a free agent. You could probably

(37:49):
have a lot of choices to do it, go around
the NFL. Why come to the Seattle Seahawks.

Speaker 11 (37:56):
Yeah, man, I mean, obviously, after weighing my option, it
just seemed like obvious choice. You know, once I once
I found out about the Geno trade, that's when I
kind of obviously knew that it could be a potential
landing spot. And you know, it was just you know,
weighing the options and it became very clear, you know,
what the obvious decision was. And I'm just very happy

(38:18):
that it worked out and that the feeling was mutual.
You know, I'm just very happy to be a Seahawk
and ready to hit the ground running.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
What is it about the organization that's appealing? I mean,
we've all been you know, I've been here forever. I've
covered the team forever, and whet it be John Schneider
before that, Mike clm grin and Pete Carroll and on
and on through and through. But uh McDonald Schneider, the
organization as a whole. You've been in the league long enough,
you've played here, you've played against his team. What is
it about the organization as a whole that's appealing?

Speaker 11 (38:52):
Yeah, I think the people. I've always said this, but
the people are what made the organization great, you know,
and it's not just the coaches It's not just the
front office. It's not just the players. You know, that's
you know that those all those groups kind of speak
for itself, but it's all the people that work in
your day to day. You know, the people in the
cafeteria every single day that you say hi to, and

(39:13):
you know the training staff and the and the strengthening
conditioning staff, and you know the the you know, just
the people that work around the building every single day.
You know, you hear all these great stories about Seattle
and how nice it is to be in Seattle, you know,
just because of how great the people are. And I
think that you know, that joy of being in Seattle

(39:35):
not only comes from being in the organization, but also
outside of it. You know, when you go into the
city and you know you're around town and you know,
all the twelves are just kind of roaming around the
city and and they you know, they recognize recognize a
lot of the players because they're so entrenched in in
what we are as a team and in the organization.
They love it so much. And you know, you can

(39:57):
you can really feel that even from Afar And like
I said, I've had tons of you know, former guys
that I've played with guys who are done playing that
have you know, been in the organization and speak so
highly of it. So there were so many things that
we're appealing about, you know, joining, joining this team and
in this organization. But you know, after after putting some

(40:20):
thought into it, it became so clear that I wanted
to be a Seattle Seahawk. And yeah, again it's it's
just incredible, man. I'm ready to.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Get to work.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Sam Donald joining us here he in fronesced with you
and to be come plumbing hot line new Seahawk quarterback.
You obviously are familiar with Clint Kubiak. The fit I
think for any NFL player and even offensive lineman, whether
offensive lineman, quarterback, running back, what have you. The offense
has to fit skill set and what you like to do.
What is it about Clint Kubiak's offense that you like
and what should Seahawks fans expect from that offense?

Speaker 11 (40:54):
Yeah, I think first and foremost, you know, Clint's gonna
want to run the football. And I always say that,
you know, a good run game as a quarterback's best friend,
when you can run the football and play action off
of it, run keepers, it keeps the defense guessing, and
you know, especially that front seven, it keeps them guessing
and and you know they feel run and all of

(41:15):
a sudden, it's play action and you're throwing right behind
the linebacker's head or you know, even if a guy
steps up on the back end, you can throw it
over a safety's head. So there's so many different ways
that you know, we love to attack defenses in the system.
And again, the dropback game is great too. I feel like,
you know, it was really good in San Francisco, and

(41:36):
I feel like Clint, even being in New Orleans this
past year, has really evolved the drop back game as
well when it comes to you know, getting back on
track and second and longs and even attacking on third
down so and then the red zone obviously as well.
So it's a it's a very exciting offense to be in.
But I think it all starts, you know, the most

(41:57):
exciting part for me is that it all starts with
the run game. And I think that's something that the
Twelves can look forward to this year.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Pretty good running backs, nice little tandem. Actually i'd say
a threesome because we saw at the end of the
year Kenny McIntosh got a chance as well, Zach s Charbonay.
But boy, I I I don't know how much you've
had a chance. You when you're studying film, you're not
watching necessarily the other team's offense. But what do you
know about Kenneth Walker, Because it feels like when he's
been healthy, he's been one of the top backs in
the league, no doubt.

Speaker 11 (42:26):
And you know, it's it's actually funny like just you know,
obviously playing the NFC West last year, you know, we
got to see a lot of Seahawk State, you know,
kind of seeing what they were doing on offense and
see all the weapons that I know have at my disposal,
and it's incredible, man, just to see these these backs
go to work, you know, catching catching the rock out

(42:48):
of the backfield, obviously toting the rock the way they
know how, but you know, just to be able to
have such a special tandem and and some other guys
as well in that room to just do the do
the little things man, whether it's you know, obviously it's
running the football, but it's pass protection. You know, it's
known when you're hot, if you're the first progression in

(43:09):
the scout protection, like it's it's all the little things
that I see on tape that excites me about these
running backs and then obviously all the skilled players that
we have as well, the tight ends and uh man,
just talking about I'm getting fired up. I want to
get out there. So it's a you know, it's an
exciting time for me and I'm just you know, ready

(43:30):
to get in there. Get in there, get to know
these guys a little bit and it gets work.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Could you expand on your comment in the press conference
about wanting to be a point guard a quarterback being
a point guard in the Kubiak offense, because I I
think that's it feels like that's exactly what a coach
would want his quarterback to be. Is truly a point guard.
Yet I think there's a lot of coach or a
lot of guys that would if they're a quarterback, they say, yeah, man,
I'd rather be the shooting guard. I want to you know,

(43:54):
do the thing. What do you mean by being a
point guard?

Speaker 11 (43:59):
Yeah, you know, I think there's a time and a
place to be the shooting guard. You know, when you
got to you know, attack up top kind of like
I mentioned before, if a if a safety or a
corner kind of bites on her oute and you feel
like you got them over the top. That's great, and
you know you can make those flash plays when they're
there to be made. But at the end of the day,
I feel like, you know, eighty percent of the game
is just you know, getting it down underneath to her,

(44:20):
you know, to to your playmakers and letting them go
run with it. And I think that's kind of what
I meant by that was just being able to dish
the ball out, you know, in a in a timely matter,
you know, within the within the progression, within the timing
of the play, and doing it with a with a
ton of accuracy. And you know, that's what I'm excited
about this offense. There's there's so many answers if one

(44:42):
and two aren't there, just to be able to get
to three and four and get to my check down
as you know, as fast as you know I can.
You know, it's a it's a really exciting offense to
be in that way because that's when you get guys
to step up and you get to make those long
range you know, three pointers as a shooting guard would,
So you know, it's a that's kind of what I'm

(45:03):
looking forward to the most and that's I feel like
that's kind of what I meant by that. I don't
know if that that helps kind of explain. No, it
doesn't meant being a point guard out.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
There, but yeah, if yeah, I think that, I think
it's a great explanation. Sam Darnold with us, Sam the
when you were looking at tape, you probably saw it.
You know, number fourteen and number sixteen Metcalf and locket
on there as well as JSN to those guys too.
Of those guys are gone now it's now it's JSN.
But then they go out and they pick up Cooper Cup. Uh,
you had a pretty good tandem if I'm not mistaken.

(45:33):
Jefferson and Addison worked too bad for you in Minnesota
last year. Those are some pretty good receivers. But now
you come here, we're gonna assume, and I'll make this assumption.
I'm gonna assume Cooper Cup's healthy. And I would say
that because I know the Seahawks. They were very adamant
about not signing offensive lineman unless they knew they were
one hundred percent healthy. And they're gonna sign Cooper Cup
if they didn't feel like he was healthy. So making

(45:54):
the assumption that Cup is healthy and you've seen what
JSN can do. How excited are you to work with
those guys and what are their skill sets that really
appeal to you?

Speaker 11 (46:05):
Oh, I'm so excited to work with them, man, And
not just those guys but the entire skill group. But
you know, yeah, those I mean, you look at Cooper
and you look at Jason, I feel like, really both
of them, like they have such good feel which you
you know, I love when a receiver has really good
feel in that kind of intermediate area to be able
to just feel space. Sometimes you run those inbreaking routes

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and you need someone to be able to kind of
feel the defense and feel the safety coming down, and
you almost want them to kind of, you know, not
slow down a ton, but just throttle a little bit
in that window. And I feel like I saw that
a lot out of Cooper and Jasn, you know the
tape that I've seen of them, and you know, just
being able to hear those guys talk about football, even

(46:48):
you know, in press conferences and you know, after games
stuff like that, it's you know, it's very exciting as
a quarterback to have receivers that can not only feel
the game out that way, but also can talk ball
and kind of understand football from a quarterbacks perspective. It's, uh,
you know, it's exciting and really excited, really really pumped

(47:11):
to have both those guys to throw it in.

Speaker 1 (47:15):
Sam. I mean, I've been watching you. I'm a Watchington
State alum. I've been watching you play all through college.
We had Clay Helton on our show after you signed.
He was effusive in his praise about you, and and
you know, talked about not just your athleticism and your
arm strength, but you're also your character, your leadership, and
and kind of how you see the game and feel
the game. And as I'm talking to you more and more,

(47:35):
I think it's kind of fun to listen to you
talk about you sound like I'm gonna describe you here.
You tell me. Are you just a football junkie slash
football nerd? It feels like, I mean, you're piss because
you didn't remember it was forty one yards of Robbie Anderson?
Is is Sam Darld's like just mister film study? And
is that kind of who you are?

Speaker 4 (47:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (47:54):
I mean I feel like you can't be any other
way as a quarterback man. You got to you gotta
love this if you know, and if you don't, you know,
the game will, you know, chew you up and spit
you right out. So man, it's but I love it.
It's It's everything that I've ever lived for. I've loved
playing football ever since I put the pads on when
I was nine years old, and you know, it's it's

(48:15):
just so it's fun, man, to just go out there.
And you know, sometimes I feel like people lose that,
you know, when when they're kind of you know, growing up,
you have so much fun playing and then all of
a sudden, football gets a lot more serious, you know,
in college and especially the NFL, and you kind of
lose the kid aspect of it and having fun part
of it. And I feel like, you know, I've never

(48:36):
really lost that, and I'm very thankful and grateful, but
I haven't. And uh yeah, man, I just I love
ball and I'm excited to to you know, to be honest,
I'm you know, tired of talking about it. I want
to get out there and start playing bull again and
you know, get to know my teammates a little bit more.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
You took my last question away. I was going to
ask you if you ever lost that that fun part
of the game. You know, you went through a lot
playing for a couple of different orders, and it doesn't
sound like that ever sucked the life out of you,
like you still have that desire to play.

Speaker 11 (49:06):
No. No, I will say though, like losing sucks. You know,
there's nothing worse than losing. But at the same time,
like whenever I get get out there on the on
the field and you know I can lace them up
and you know, play ball, it's there's nothing like it.
And you know, I always try to keep that perspective
of you know, anytime I get a chance to go

(49:26):
out there and play, it's a great day. And you know, obviously,
you know winning and losing is a part of the game.
But you know, I've just learned to, you know, kind
of take it more as a lesson than a loss.
I think that's kind of a good way to look
at things. And you know, I'm just very very excited,

(49:48):
like I said, man, to just get this thing rolling.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
I love it. I appreciate you jumping on. I know
you got to go. I was told Luke Falk your
your former backup, and the Jets tells us that we're
having him on next week since recoup. Uh he he
speaks very highly of you, highly of you, except he says,
he says you owe him for a ping pong loss.
Is that right?

Speaker 11 (50:09):
Yeah, he's got my venmo.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
He'll be all right.

Speaker 11 (50:12):
He can he can send me a venmo. He doesn't
need to make that. He doesn't need to make that
national news. But uh, I'm glad Luke told you about that.
And uh, by the way, you're probably I mean, you know,
you're probably uh psyched about the River Creakcraft news. I
mean he was. He's a Washington State legend.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Man, buddy, I'm I'm sam. I can't tell you how
psyched I'm about that. That's that's that's off Bran Cooper
cup I love it, man, and he can block. I'm
excited for River Man. He's listen more Coug's the better.
So yeah, I'm glad you're psyched about it too.

Speaker 11 (50:46):
Yeah he U No, we actually grew up pretty close
to each other. He went to Sant Margarita High School.
I went to San Clementy. So in the off season
I throw with River a ton. So he's actually a
good buddy. But uh, yeah, man, he's I'm excited for
that obviously, MBS. There's there's a ton of guys that
you know, have a lot of opportunity to you know,

(51:07):
to make some hay this year, and I'm excited to.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
You know, just kind of.

Speaker 11 (51:13):
You know, just just play efficiently. I think that's the
biggest thing, is playing consistent and playing efficient And if
I can do that this year will.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Be all right. I gotta let you go because I
know you've got another thing to do, So go do that,
and we appreciate can't wait to meet in person. Hey,
thanks for your time today, Sam, I really.

Speaker 4 (51:27):
Appreciate it, all right, and appreciate it. Man.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
There you go, Sam Darnold, new Seahawt quarterback joining us
here on the Beacon Plumbing Hotline this afternoon. So yeah,
I don't know. We'll get Luke on. Luke's coming on next.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
Week and he is and I told him that we
were having Sam on, so he probably tuned in because
I told him we'd get the ping punk thing.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah, So I'm not sure. So it sounds like so Luke,
oh Sam, is what it sounds like if he needs
his venmo?

Speaker 2 (51:53):
No no, no, no.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Request?

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, all right, Well you know what it was public now,
So I.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
Mean Luke tweeted it at me, so it was public
from Luke.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
Anyway, maybe maybe what we do next week just is
we get uh see if we can get River on
at the same time, maybe we'll get Louis didn't. I
didn't know there was a Yeah, we didn't know that
there was a connection between River and Uh and Sam
and we we were kind of running out of time.
I'm wondering if I'm wondering out loud here connecting some dots.

(52:28):
Almost sounds like his River creak Craft became a free agent.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Sam with that working out in the off season together,
that sounds like kind.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Of sounds like the new quarterback did his buddy, Uh,
you know, a little favor there would.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Get River is a perfect Its awesome.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Yeah, we didn't talk about him. Listen. River hasn't had
a huge, you know, uh career in terms of production.
He's been banged up, he's but he's a great story
of perseverance, spent a lot of time on a practice squad,
kind of found himself a home in Miami the last
couple of years. Really good too at the wide receiver position.
And that's you know, if if you've listened to Hugh
uh and others, but especially Hugh talk about this new offense.

(53:07):
Those wide receivers have to be able to block, and
that's that's a big part of what they're going to
have to be called on to do. U River kind
of fits into that category. I like to call him
kind of off brand Cooper Cup No, not just because he's
the white receiver, but but they kind of possession guy,
strong as hell, physical receiver plays in the slot. They
got here. The thing, there is some redundancy there. There's
no doubt there's some at the wide receiver position with

(53:29):
with Craig, with Craig Well, Craig Craft, he's like he's
the number three or four up like four on the
depth chart. But you know, there is some redundancy in
terms of the guys playing in the slot. But you know,
I always think and people bring that up. You know,
guys like Clint Kubiak and and Mike McDonald, they didn't
get into positions they were by being dumb. They know that.
You know, as we were talking I'll take people behind

(53:50):
the curtain. We were talking to Great closel last week
about that and he brought it up on the air.
His comments off the air were a lot more colorful
in terms of you know, people are telling me there's
well no, yeah, we know that, everyone knows it goes yeah, right.
But but I think in the case of Darnold, you know,
listening to him get excited about talking God, you can
tell the guy's a perfectionist, right, like he's he's pissed

(54:13):
it himself. Thoughtful, but he's pissed himself. And you know,
it's forty one yards to Robbie Anders, where's that drop for?
It was forty he did, he was mad he didn't.
He's got forty five instead of forty one. But I
think that also might explain how brutal it would be
to be in New York. You know you're coming in,
you're a.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
High draft picktest.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
You can listen, and you listen to this guy, who
is obviously just a savant, wants to you know, just
the way he's I can't remember talking to I mean,
the last two quarterbacks we've interviewed here have been Russell
and Gino, And all due respect to russ and Gino,
I don't think I've ever had a conversation with a
Seahawk quarterback that was that in depth in terms of

(54:57):
the offense, what he likes to do, just the nuances
of everything. I mean, hopefully Hugh was listening to that,
because I mean I felt like I needed you at
my side to kind of decipher and translate some of
the stuff. But it was like the guy is is
He's impressive in that regard, and it's probably the fit
that they need for this particular offense. And again, is

(55:19):
he as good as Gino? Is? He has he been
as productive as Geno? Well, there's a lot of similarities
in terms of higher draft picks. Gino wasn't as high
as Sam, but higher draft picks kind of the Jets
flame out doesn't work. Why. Sometimes it's not the player.
Sometimes it's the organization backup. Yeah, probably with Gino and
Sam kind of the same way. And then you know,

(55:40):
one man's misery is the other ones, you know, ends
up being the other one's great benefit. JJ McCarthy blows
his knee out Sam Donald's an insurance policy and leads
Minnesota to this great year and gets paid for it
and then gets a new lease on life as a
free agent coming to Seattle in what probably feels like
for him, listening to him the perfect thing it for
the offense, loves the organization and just all the way

(56:03):
around is just kind of a win win. But yeah, yeah,
listening to him talk about just you know, what these
guys can do, what the offense can do, how it
can do it, how he is truly the point guard.
And I appreciate Dick. Dick kind of pointing that out
to me. We're talking after a round table day, says
you ask Hi about the point guard thing. That's a
great it's a great way to I'm glad that gave
me that because I think that's a good way to

(56:25):
look at the position.

Speaker 5 (56:25):
You know, I don't think a lot of quarterbacks do
look at it that way.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
I think a lot of quarterbacks look at it. It's like, man, man,
I'm you know, I'm the guy, right, I'm the guy,
and they have to be the guy.

Speaker 11 (56:33):
Right.

Speaker 1 (56:34):
They are the most important player in the field, right,
But you don't have to make you don't have to
swing for the fences every time rowdy tiles right like
you can do. But no, that's I think that's what
it is, all right. Your thoughts on the new seat
quarterback you heard that. Your thoughts on Cal Rowley resigning
with the Mariners four, nine, four or five one. Let's
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Sam Donald, good time looking deep downfield into the end zone.
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Speaker 1 (57:52):
Day in.

Speaker 13 (57:55):
What would have happened if actually Pete Carroll had drafted
Sam because he was playing at USC, We may have
had a whole different story up here in Seattle.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
And not have to suffer the last seven years. Well,
they weren't. Here's the problem with Yeah, I understand what
you're saying. All joking aside, the problem with Seattle drafting.
When Pete was here for the most part, they never
drafted that high. What's that? In fact, I was looking

(58:37):
this up earlier. We'll get to text here in a second.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
No, no, no, no, we have one more talk back.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
Okay, why don't you do that because I'm doing some research.

Speaker 5 (58:44):
Sounds good, Okay, good hard hitting researching for this.

Speaker 4 (58:47):
That's it.

Speaker 11 (58:49):
Again.

Speaker 14 (58:49):
Fantastic job with Darnold Man. That was a great interview.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
You know.

Speaker 14 (58:53):
The question I have is would he have really a
fit with DK because heisa like he likes to dink
and dunk, take what the defense is giving versus Gino
always shooting for that long ball, always looking for that
bag of gold. And that's not Sam Donald, but that

(59:14):
is Gino.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
That's actually a misnomer too. I think Hughes got I
don't have the number in front of me. Hughes brought
him up a few times. There were a lot of gunshy,
there were a lot of dink and dunks, lack of
intended air yards by the Seahawks, and with with with
Gino Smith. So he wasn't Gino is a little seventy

(59:39):
percent deal that he was in. You know that he
was in on last year. His seventy percent what you're
gonna call it a contract? Yeah, that that dude was
doing that. Why because he's trying to get I don't
think that's his game. And the other thing, what Donald
is We talked about this with Clay Helton and other guys.
Click Sam, girl's got a gun man he is. He

(59:59):
does not have of a noodle arm by any strategy.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
Not fun for the Kochs to face. I'll tell you
that much.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
He's he's got. He will chuck it, man, he will.
He will chuck it down the field if need be.
But I get what you're saying. I want to go
back to the last the last one. So the highest
draft picks the Seahawks had in the era of Pete
Carroll obviously Devin Witherspoon, but that was a trade at

(01:00:25):
five Charles Cross, I think right after since twenty ten,
Charles crass Cross at nine. That was the only top
ten pick they had since twenty ten. So they're never drafted,
They're never drafting high. You know, that was a key
with Seattle, So yeah, could they would have been different,
I don't know, but they just never they they weren't
working looking for a quarterback when Sam Donald came out

(01:00:45):
of college and buy they never were in contention for
those top quarterbacks because they were too good.

Speaker 4 (01:00:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
That's the problem with trying to draft those guys along
the way they were. They were too good, so they
couldn't do that. I mean for Sam Donald and for
Pete probably worked out. But the other thing is contrary
to kind of the fun narrative, Pete didn't just say
I'm gonna draft guys from USC. Hell. The first thing
he did when he got here in twenty ten, he
had Lendale White in his USC running back, had him

(01:01:12):
here for like four days and said, yeah, you know what,
you're out, you know, working hard enough, I'm out. Lawrence Jackson,
the USC guy, thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
I mean well, Also, he didn't go for Taylor Made, didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
Draft Taylor Made. Yeah, like yeah, so there was no
Pete knew one thing. It was about winning, man. It
was there's no loyalty to USC or drafting his guys
or even a USC.

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Guys, was just knowing them. Okay, I'll give you a shot, Nope,
doesn't work by And.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
The one guy he gave a shot to was Lendale White,
and Lendale decided he wanted to just be Lendale and
that was That was good enough for Pete to say.
And I think that was one of those kind of
watershit moments too, because when he cut Lendale White was like,
damn man, if he's gonna cut the guy to help
him get to a national championship, he'll cut anybody like
he didn't care. Yeah he didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
He's not drafting Taylor and burning that year.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
Yeah he's not. I'm not He's not drafted Taylor Mayze.
He's cutting Lendale White. I think that was a hell
of a statement, Pizza, you know, like you're sitting here going,
we're not gonna mess aroun Le's get some text messages
four nine four five one four two five. You can
say Russ was a game manager at first. I mean
he could when he could run. Yeah, we used to
always talk about this. I remember when I was doing
the show with my former co host back in the day.

(01:02:18):
We used to always talk about the fact that Russ
had the governor on, you know, like you have a
governor on like a golf cart or a car or
like the U haul, so you can't go a certain speed,
he can't go over speed limit like Russ kind of
had that governor on for the first year or two
and he was truly quote a game manager.

Speaker 2 (01:02:33):
He was very accurate, but he was but he wasn't
but beautiful.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
But they did. What I mean by that is they
didn't open up the offense.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
No, they didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
That's where lett Russ Cook was born. Yeah, because they
wanted it to be there for it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Russ wanted it to be there, and it was there
later in his career. It was Seattle, but it wasn't
there early. He was more. I don't think what Sam
Donnell was talking about is being a quote game manager.
I think what he's talking about and that's a we'll
have to maybe revisit that sound bite maybe next week
when and I think I should be a good thing
for Luke Falk to talk to us about and he
can break that down because what he's talking about is
just like it's he when he was describing how Cooper

(01:03:07):
Cup and Jackson Smith and Jigbo run routes and the
intermediate routes and finding the subtleties out there and stuff
like that. As a quarterback, you've got to be able
to find that guy. It's like point guard find a
guy in a back cut right, Boom, there he is.
Pass has to be boom just like that and you're
gonna see it. So why point guard plays so big
in March Badness? It's massive in March badness. Guy with
the ball, whoever's whoever the point guard is or dominant,

(01:03:29):
has the ball domination. That guy's huge. And I think
that's what he meant along the way. Okay, let's see, Uh,
point guard's his game manager me And I don't think
that's a bad thing. Again, I don't think it's a
game manager. I think it's just more of like that's
he's He's.

Speaker 6 (01:03:44):
Like he've used his job as getting into his playmakers
no matter where that is.

Speaker 1 (01:03:47):
And that's what he's said, actually exactly what exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:03:49):
Also, I liked hearing him say that a running game
is a quarterback's best friend, like that he understands that's
a priority, because that definitely sounds like what Clint Kooby
yeah wants to do.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yeah. Oh let's see what I'll we got here forty
one yards? Yeah, we got a few of those texts
in uh love that love that did you do? I'm
excited about the cal signing, says the four two five.
But because there's no cap in Major League Baseball doesn't
mean there's unlimited money. That's Johnston justin.

Speaker 6 (01:04:16):
But it is true unless you're the Mats. Are the Dodgers, right?
Everyone else has?

Speaker 4 (01:04:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
No, But but here's here's the difference. Yes, there's not
unlimited money in terms of what you can spend, but
there's a difference between unlimited Dodger Mets money and just
not wanting to spend, you know. And the best thing
about baseball is because there's no salary cap, if you
have good players, you should always be able to retain
those good players. In sports with salary caps, Football is

(01:04:45):
the best example. You think the Seahawks would have loved
to have kept the band together? Yeah, that won the
Super Bowl in thirteen and got back there in fourteen.
They couldn't afford to because all of a sudden, Byron
Maxwell and Jeron Johnson and Chris Merrick Goes and Golden
Tate and all these guys that were kind of nice
little pieces to the team, they're all getting paid and

(01:05:07):
Seattle couldn't Seattle couldn't retain guys that you know, they
couldn't retain their own guys because these guys that were
really important to the to the team, the backbone of
the team, the spine of the team, they couldn't keep.
For to keep those guys, they had to pay Russ,
and they had to pay Marshawn, and they had to
pay Sherm and Earl and all those guys Bobby and
kJ and everything like that. That's the difference in baseball.

(01:05:30):
If you have really good players and Cal. And here's
the thing, their two most important position players are locked
up in Julio and Cal. Now, as as time goes on,
you have to lock up that entire pitching staff, yep,
and make sure that those guys don't hit the free
agent market and make sure those guys are getting paid.
And you don't have to worry about that as well.

(01:05:51):
Let's see four five CW Central is just finally routinely,
routinely go to the playoffs more often than any school
in Washington. Go wild again. This brought up earlier team
that played last week in the tournament at Division one
basketball in March. Badness played the tournament playing game, yes,
but play the tournament are dropping down to D three

(01:06:12):
and why is that? It's because of nil revenue sharing
and the money and people are going to bypass D
two because there's athletic scholarships. Now I've seen that twice.
Now there's a Pacific did it last week and Saint
Francis did it this week. D two is going to die.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Middle class is dying in spir the D two.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
It's going to be Division one and Division three and
that's going to be it. It's going to die. You
can't afford to play Division two football. It's just and
it sucks because there's so many kids that want to
play it, and those opportunities for education are are really
really big.

Speaker 6 (01:06:43):
Fire away Marcus from the two six, one of our
loyal listeners, Roots Sports app to get rid of Fubo
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day Thursday and Cal extended. This has been the best
week of my life, Breach.

Speaker 2 (01:07:00):
That's great, Mars is a good listener.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yeah, let's see what else you got? Uh, this is
this is now Anders. You did tell me that there
are some negative ones out there. Just one four five
CAL signing is just MS treading the water instead of
moving forward. I agree with want to put my head
through a walk. I just want to put my head through.
So you so four two five you would rather they

(01:07:27):
not re sign or sign Calraly to an extension. Is
that what you're telling me?

Speaker 7 (01:07:31):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:07:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
What's the alternative?

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Like like like I don't. But the unfortunate thing is this,
this is where we are with this organization, yep, is
that no matter what they do, there will be people
that find something negative to attach to it. And the
only way you change that is by winning and not

(01:07:53):
winning because winning's not no, it's by going to and
having success in the playoffs. That is the only way
you change that. If you don't get to the postseason,
then no matter what you do, whatever positive steps you
take forward, it will not matter because the fan base
will look you and say that's right because you can
win like the Seahawks won. They've won the last two years.

(01:08:17):
But here's the things exactly, they're exactly the same. Yes,
both teams missed the playoffs by effectively one game. One
team had a GM that came out at the combine
and said, I'm sorry, I apologize to the fans. Wasn't
good better? Wasn't good enough. The other team said, you know,
we're doing you a favor, right, yeah, and so until
they The only way Jerry flips the script is by

(01:08:41):
getting if they're playing baseball in the middle of October
this year, I think you buy yourself equity that you
can't even fathom right now, organization.

Speaker 6 (01:08:49):
I always question whether if they actually did win a
World Series, if there would still be fans that would like.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Well, then at that point, you're just not a fan.
I'm being honest, like, at that point, you're not a fan.
You're just a dipstick that almost swore in the air.

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
Whoa, hey, thank you for not.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Hey? Now hey, now I think a breaks soft He's
gonna join us, coming up neck already, then wrapping things up,
getting ready to hand it off to one day Softy
mallor Richard Lphane And Jackson, Yes, sir, what's his last

(01:09:30):
name again?

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Jackson Felts by the.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Way, Seltz, Jackson Seltz.

Speaker 7 (01:09:34):
Which is the uh ironically enough for a coincidence?

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Is it?

Speaker 15 (01:09:38):
Is it a coincidence or irony that he shares the
same last name as my mom's neurologist, by the way,
doctor doctor Felts Kaiser Permanence.

Speaker 7 (01:09:47):
Yeah, shout out doctor Felts, shout out, my wife is
a doctor felt.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, did show too?

Speaker 7 (01:09:53):
Did How many people?

Speaker 1 (01:09:54):
Do you know?

Speaker 15 (01:09:55):
How many people you know? No to doctor Feltz's not well,
it's you, That's that's right. He's saying doctor Feltz from
Kaiser Permanen baby doctor did doctor Risa? Did she take
Jackson's last name? Or did she just say, yeah, I'm
a doctor who.

Speaker 7 (01:10:09):
Professionally, I have no idea. You'll have to ask jack.

Speaker 5 (01:10:11):
He's not in the studio yet, but I'll ask pops in.

Speaker 15 (01:10:13):
Yeah, well I would take his name. He's a big
time celebrity walking around the last name Felts. Everybody knows
who you are. You're Jackson, related to Jackson Felts of
kJ R. That's my husband.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
God, really, Hey, I did ask your guy Sam Darnold
about the touchdown pass.

Speaker 5 (01:10:33):
I know forty one yards.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
I heard he got he got it wrong, He got pissed,
he was pissed himself he got it wrong. I kind
of liked. I like the fact that the guy was
mad that he got he was off by four yards.
God thought he thought it was forty five yards?

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
Thought five yards?

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
Wow.

Speaker 7 (01:10:48):
Well, he said he's got the football, right, he has
the football still? I was his mantle aka chosen Anderson?

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:10:55):
Or did he change his name back to rock?

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
Oh? I forgot about that?

Speaker 7 (01:10:59):
Is he still in the NFL, by the way, chosen?

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
And I don't know?

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
Robbie Anderson, I don't.

Speaker 15 (01:11:03):
Maybe if nobody chose him for the roster, you should
go back to just call himself for Robbie, Ladies and gentlemen.
You'll be here all week, ladies and gentlemen. Robbie Anderson
is now known as Waved Anderson.

Speaker 1 (01:11:16):
Hey, do you do you think the Mariners could have
announced that for nothing?

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
Do you think we could have got the cal Rawy
news like before our roundtable was off today?

Speaker 7 (01:11:24):
I don't know.

Speaker 15 (01:11:25):
But how about simply Seattle having them out at their
new store today.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
So they're out at it and and I I like
you have been told so cal Rawley's gonna go sign
is having a signing thing out.

Speaker 7 (01:11:35):
He's there in ten minutes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:37):
I'm heavy over there.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
I thought it was four to five.

Speaker 7 (01:11:39):
Uh, he's gonna be there at three, but the public
portions are four.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
So you and and Jake at simply Seattle says get
there early. So if you're in fact, if we're telling
you now you unless you're close by, you may be
too late to meet Cal Rawley.

Speaker 15 (01:11:52):
Well I haven't. I haven't been to the New Story yet.
I've been to their warehouse, which is kind of right
behind where the old Burgermaster used to be. In the
fact that we have to say the old Burger Master
just breaks my heart wrong, but it's gone now.

Speaker 7 (01:12:04):
But that's where it is.

Speaker 15 (01:12:05):
Their warehouse isn't a secret location behind the U village,
so it only makes sense to have a store there.
And I wonder, like who's next door, Like is there
some yogurt shop or it's like Johnny Rockett's next door.
They might just kill it with the amount of people
coming by to see cal Raley.

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Well Cal would I mean in the fact, now that
he's resigned, you're gonna have all I mean, it's just
help me out here. What is the negative as Yeah,
what is the negative to resign Cal? Zero?

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
Negative?

Speaker 11 (01:12:31):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (01:12:31):
People actually talking about that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Just I'm gonna I'm gonna warn you. Just don't look like.

Speaker 7 (01:12:36):
There's no negative to resigning him.

Speaker 15 (01:12:37):
He's like one of the best catchers in baseball, you know,
he's the third highest paid catcher in baseball. Baseball, right, yeah,
I mean somebody would say Reo Mauto might be better
than him, Uh, you know, Wilson Contreras, Salvador Perez. But yeah,
six to one half dozen, you can make an argument.
I just think he's the exact kind of person you
want in your clubhouse. Yes, and I don't want to

(01:12:58):
give away too much of my great model, because it's
gonna be great.

Speaker 7 (01:13:01):
I don't have much to offer besides that's but I'm
fired up for this.

Speaker 15 (01:13:05):
I've been asking for this for a year, a year
and a half to get this guy re signed. I'm
glad they did it. I wonder if it happens without
him firing Scott.

Speaker 7 (01:13:13):
Boris as.

Speaker 1 (01:13:16):
He's got three more years.

Speaker 7 (01:13:17):
Left until he's until he's a free agent. What is
he twenty eight Andrews? Is that right? Twenty eight years old?
I think he's twenty eight?

Speaker 15 (01:13:25):
Yeah, right, So he would have had to have waited
until he was into his early thirties to sign a contract,
and I just thought that was too long for him.

Speaker 1 (01:13:32):
Man.

Speaker 15 (01:13:32):
I mean, well, you get banged up, whatever, you kind
of decline, blah blah blah. It's a great move for him,
and you know what else, it's a great move for
the Mariners. Man seventeen and a half is in the
end in the grand scheme of things, is nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
Well, it's a win win for everybody, especially for both
size like you mentioned for the Mariners too, but also
for Cal. He plays a position that just he gets
the crap beat out of him on a daily basis.
I mean, you know, and who knows how long he's
going to be catching one hundred and thirty games a year, sure, right,
And so he gets money, they get some security. And
I think if a year ago, because he still had Boris,
right about a year ago, right, he got.

Speaker 7 (01:14:04):
I think you fired about a year ago.

Speaker 8 (01:14:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Yeah. And if you would have said, if we would
have this car, hey, do you think Cal's gonna resign here?
Well Boris's agent, No chance in hell. If I would
have told you a year ago, hey, Cal just resigned
and he's gonna be here till he's in his mid thirties,
you'd be like, right, awesome, great, Yeah. So I think
what I just when I'm when I mentioned the text
line is this. We talked about this this morning on
the roundtable. No matter what they do, people will find
negatives to it.

Speaker 7 (01:14:26):
Yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 15 (01:14:27):
And I think overall there's a lot of negatives to
what's happening with the Mariners right now, but there's also
a lot of positives.

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
And I think alex Aquida's right. This has maybe been
as far as.

Speaker 15 (01:14:36):
Good vibes right, maybe the best week the Mariners good
for a while, with the streaming thing coming out and
the the news about them eating Handigger's deal and saying
enough is enough, and now given cal Rally an extension.

Speaker 7 (01:14:47):
And look, I mean Depoto said this.

Speaker 15 (01:14:49):
It was either with Chuck and Buck or the press
conference he had a few weeks ago or a month
ago where he said, look, we want to build from
within and resign our own guys. Okay, then fine, then
don't let cal Raley get away, and don't let Logan
Gilbert and Bryce Miller and Brian wu and George Kirby
and all those guys get away.

Speaker 7 (01:15:04):
So this is another step in making that happen.

Speaker 15 (01:15:08):
You know, I wonder what this means for like a
Harry Ford by the way, guys, I mean he was
the next up and cover in the Miners. I mean,
I think he's an obvious trade piece. He was probably
an obvious trade piece to begin with. But yes, like
you said, cal Rowley's twenty eight, he'll be twenty nine
this November. He did have twenty games at DH a
year ago. He's not going to catch forever.

Speaker 7 (01:15:27):
And having this guy locked up till he's at least
thirty four, I saw were passings reporting there's a seventh
year player option for twenty thirty one for twenty million bucks,
So they could have this guy till he's thirty five
years old at nothing money. I mean, what is seventeen
and a half billion dollars base bat? Nothing in four
years from now? Yeah, five years? It's nothing zip right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
Yeah, no, it's it's nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:15:48):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
I think that's a great day, great day for the
Mariners man, no question.

Speaker 1 (01:15:52):
He played one hundred and fifty three games last season.

Speaker 7 (01:15:54):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (01:15:56):
I was looking back at splits. I don't know how
many played catch.

Speaker 15 (01:15:58):
Right, and he caught one hundred and thirty one, James.
That's a lot of thirty one.

Speaker 1 (01:16:02):
That's a lot. God, get him down to like one ten. Yeah,
I let this guy just do his thing, all right.
What are you got coming up today? Is a great monologue.

Speaker 7 (01:16:10):
Yeah, we'll talk a lot about this.

Speaker 15 (01:16:12):
Uh, it's gonna be excellent, man, the monologue, and then
it's all down hill from there.

Speaker 7 (01:16:16):
Well, we'll talk a lot about cal Raley. I think PJ.

Speaker 15 (01:16:19):
Carlismo is gonna hop on with us today and talk
a little college basketball getting ready for the Sweet sixteen.
We'll hear a little bit from your phenomenal award winning
conversation with Sam Darnold coming up as well. Donald, and
then John Wilder joins us at five o'clock. You saw
where Stanford just fired their football coach. Yeah, Andrew Luck
just whacked the guy. He's the GM of Stanford football.

(01:16:39):
I wonder if he'll make himself the head coach down here.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I know he say he's gonna name it in.

Speaker 7 (01:16:44):
We'll see, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
You think he'll make himself the coach?

Speaker 7 (01:16:47):
When Greg Popovich made him himself the head coach after
the Spurs got Tim Duncan, He's like, you know what,
I think I want to be the head coach now
I got Tim Duncan.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
I think the difference is Stanford don't have Tim.

Speaker 15 (01:17:00):
JII joined us around five and then Cracking Flames coming
up by pregame five thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Make sure you keep the studio clean and networks central.
But you know, Benton just gets on one. If it's
if it's a little all right.

Speaker 15 (01:17:11):
I'm just going to destroy the place now, please do
please do it to dirt in his life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
It's fine later. For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness,
this is paddle day saying so long everyone,

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