Furness Show 3-6: Corbin Smith and Gary Parrish

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and Spokane, Washington, where I got to find out where
the Zags are. I didn't see him in the top
five seeds. I don't think they think they're down there
a little bit. Saint Mary's a higher seed. Who's the
number ones, who's on the some legacy schools, big brands
on the bubble. There's one guy to talk about that with,
and he is here, Ladies and gentlemen. It is our
friend Gary Parrish, CBS Sports, CBS Sports dot Com, I

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on College Basketball podcast and you can watch them on
the CBS Sports Network.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Hello, sir, how are you I'm wonderful, you've been all right.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (02:51):
I I you know, music to my ears on I
think it was well. I was listening to it maybe Monday.
I think maybe he put it together Sunday, the Matt Norlander,
you know, just real fast.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Because it was a pretty cool tribute.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
I would urge people go listen to the Iron College
Basketball podcast. I think it was the one you posted Monday,
and there was about three and a half four minutes
that your partner, Matt Normander put together and it was
a soothing voice and sounds in March of the late
great Greg Gumbel, and it was just absolutely fantastic. And
I don't think he was on the shows last year.
He was already ill. But we lost Greg this year,

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but boy, he just was the voice of March madness.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
Gary.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
He was the voice on Sunday with the bracket reveal,
and then for us nine am Pacific time on Thursday,
hearing those docal tones coming through saying we're heading out
to Syracuse, New York for the first game tip off.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Here we go. We're gonna miss Greg.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
It's an incredible legacy and just think about what he
did every selection Sunday for decades. And what I mean
is this, like he made drinks come true. Like there
are people players, coaches, fans of lums all over the
world watching your television show and waiting to.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Hear what you say. Where are we going first? Are
we in the bracket or not? Okay?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
If we are, where are we going? What seed are we?
Who are we playing?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
If we win? Who might we play next? Where are
arrivals seated?

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Like Greg is the man, the person who's response was
responsible for delivering these these these these these dreams that
people will have forever, and he was the voice of that.
And you are right. He had been sick for a
while and he was not on the selection show in
twenty twenty four. Adam Zucker hosted in his absence, and

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Zook will take on that role going forward, starting in
you know, in a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
But yeah, Greg will be missed. And I will just
tell you.

Speaker 5 (05:04):
It was not something that we were all privy to
exactly how sick Greg was. It's just not something that
was said that. There are people who I don't want
to overstate it. I worked with Greg, some knew him
a little, but mostly just looked at him in amazement.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
From down here.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
There are obviously much more important people at CBS who
had real friendships with him, in long relationships, and even
some of them didn't know exactly how sick he was
and what he was dealing with. Greg kept it private
until the end, which I think says something about him.
And I didn't mean to turn this into this, but
he isn't somebody who wanted the sympathy or the empathy

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or any of that stuff that comes along with it.
He just wanted to fight his fight privately best I
can tell. And it's a big loss for not just CBS,
but for college basketball in general.

Speaker 4 (05:56):
Well let's Gary Paris Shornings buch to Nolae Brewing. Yeah,
it will.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
And Adam Zucker does a phenomenal job with you guys
on inside college basketball and overall, I mean, he's a great,
great guy to step in. And so when we get
to selection Sunday and we are, as we say here
and tape this today, what are we ten days away
from Selection Sunday? As we get closer and closer to that, Gary,
there are some big brands out there that are squarely

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on a bubble. Right now, we'll talk about one Seeds,
and especially Auburn, because you guys made the comment the
end of the day, and I think Jerry Palm even
wrote about it as well, like, hey, there's probably nothing
they can knock Auburn off the number one line. They
did lose the other night. So we'll get to them
in a second. But let's start talking about some teams
that are massive brands that may be in danger of
missing the tournament.

Speaker 4 (06:42):
I want to start, if I can, in the ACC a.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Little school you might have heard of called the tar
Heels of North Carolina. Are they in danger of not
hearing Adam call their name on that Sunday?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yes, I mean they're one in ten in Quadrant one.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
These quadrant systems have become just sort of a part
of the vocabulary of college basketball, for better or worse.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
And I understand if you want to.

Speaker 5 (07:03):
Argue worse, because I find myself sometimes talking about these
things and recognizing there's people listening who follow the sport,
but it's like I'm speaking in a foreign language. But
the way the selection committee does evaluate resumes is with
the quadrant system that was created by the NC Double A,
and the most important quadrant is Quadra one. That's where
you get your big wins, and they have won one

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of those. They're one in ten in quadrat one. So
it's not like they haven't had opportunities, they just haven't
taken advantage of them.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
They can get there.

Speaker 5 (07:31):
They've got an opportunity to add one of the biggest
wins you could possibly add this weekend, but that will
require them to upset a dup team that has been
absolutely rolling, beating everybody, and I don't mean just badly,
but by twenty five thirty to thirty five points, killing people.
There's nothing that's happened this season that would lead me
to try to convince you that North Carolina is about

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to be that team. But it is a rivalry between
in state competitors, and we've seen where things happen before.
But it appear no matter what happens with this tar
Hill season, Hubert Davis is going to be brought back
for another season.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
And that's fine, that's up to North Carolina.

Speaker 5 (08:08):
But I have made the point that you know, taking
personal feelings setting them aside if you're North Carolina, because
sometimes fans get caught up in these types of conversations
like if you missed being some of a tournament, you
must be fired.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
But if you make it, then you're good to go.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
And it's like that could be the difference in one
game and making long term decisions, or it could be
the difference in one person's opinion on the selection committee.
I just think taking that type of responsibility and placing
it in you know, drawing arbitrary lines and placing it
in other people's hands seems crazy to me. Like at
the end of the season, if you're North Carolina or
anywhere else, you should be asking yourself, is this the

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best coach we should have? Is this the best coach
we could have? North Carolina is maybe the best job
in the sport. If you put it up, you know,
to a poll and ask college basketball coaches if they
can have any job in the sport, North Carolina might
finish number one for a variety of reasons. Well, that
means North Carolina should have one of the best coaches
in the country, one of the best coaches in the world.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Does it?

Speaker 5 (09:08):
That's a question they can answer, right, But do they
have one of the best coaches in the world. And
if they don't, if you cannot say definitively yes, we do, well,
then you don't have the right coach for the job,
and you're gonna have to fix that at some point,
whether it's this year or next.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
Or winning all right, So, one of the best coaches
ever in the history of the sport, he now finds
himself in Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Is Calipari in Arkansas? Are they in danger of missing
this tournament?

Speaker 5 (09:38):
Yes, but not as much danger as they seem to
be three weeks ago, a month ago, when they started
zero to five in the SEC the Ji Caliperi stuff
at Arkansas got off to a horrific start.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
You know, he needed to bounce out of Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
The quality of life had become miserable, and just for
the sake of his family. Frankly, he needed to get
out of there for the same reasons that Tubby Smith
once upon a time needed to get out of there.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Like don't ever forget this.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
The last three Kentucky basketball coaches, they fired one of
them after two years, that was Billy Gillespie, and the
other two the fans made life still miserable for them
that they left for inferior jobs. Tubby Smith voluntarily left
to go to Minnesota. He wasn't fired, he said, I
don't want to be the Kentucky coach anymore. This thinks

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this is miserable, and John cali Perry more or less
made the same decision. But Arkansas did say, Hey, we
might not be Kentucky, but we can match him dollar
for dollar. You know, we can give you all the
nail money you need to go out and buy a team.
And he did that, and he built a team that
people like me thought on paper was good enough to
be preseason top twenty, and then they started zero to

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five in the SEC and no matter where this goes,
it's still going to be a disappointing season. I've heard
some people try to give John credit for turning things around.
I heard one analyst even say it's one of John
cali Perry's best coaching jobs ever.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
No, he had a preseason top twenty teen.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
This is the man who's coached in multiple Final four,
has been in a national championship game. Those are his
best coaching jobs ever. He had a preseason top twenty
team that's now on the bubble. This is a bad
coaching job, but he has turned it around. They're seven
and five in their last twelve and that doesn't sound
like much.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
But in the SEC that's.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Actually very good and good enough to get you safely
in the Innfanglay Tournament. They've got a shot to get there,
but it has been a roller coaster of a ride
and fail when yeah, largely a disappointing season for John.

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Before I go back to a couple Bowl teams. A
sidebar here, real quick, Garry Perry Joining's cursy, no I bring.
And I'm gonna be maybe almost hypocritical here when I
say this, because with the college football playoff and even
with and we've seen this forever with the NCAA Tournament
and March madness, unto the bracket comes out. Big brands matter,
sometimes at the expense of lesser brands that could be

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more deserving or are better teams along the way. And
I say that with this in mind this year the
bubble and then you can kind of describe it if it's
soft and how it would be. But an NCAA tournament,
if you have the potential to have John cal Party
in it, I want to have a minute like if
that sounds right. And I just felt as a guy
that school got destroyed by the demise of the Pac

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twelve and I'm so sick of big brands and the
snobbiness of the Big ten and the SEC. I'm a
little bit of a hypocrite to say that, but if
Calcamby in the in the tournament, that's kind.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Of fun, of course.

Speaker 5 (12:26):
And I stopped short of when you see interesting matchups
or potential matchups in the bracket, insisting that the committee
did that on purpose. For instance, like you could get
I'm just making this up. But let's say there was
a potential second round matchup between Saint John's and New Mexico,
and people will get, yeah, all the committee did that

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on purpose, And as somebody who used to actually create
brackets and follow the procedures and put them together the
same way Jerry Palm does now and Joe already does now,
like before Jerry Palm was doing it full time for us,
I would do this. I would spend part of my
February and March creating brackets. I can just tell you
there is not a bracket of sixty eight teams that

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has ever been created that didn't unintentionally just have interesting
matchups that popped up. They're unavoidable. So you're always going
to see things like, oh, that's a coach against the
school that he used to work at, or that's a
coach against one of his former assistants, or that's the
coach against his brother. Like these things are they're just
going to pop up because there's so many potential storylines.

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So I stop short of saying that that's done intentionally,
but I will agree with you these people who make
these decisions are humans, and humans have biases, whether you
know it or not, and those things can play a role.
I'll tell you where it might come into play in
the National Player of the Year race, because right now,
National Player of the Year voters have the power, for

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lack of a better word, to do one of two things.
Give the National Player Year award to Jeni Broom, who's
a perfectly great college player, but he's just a guy
who started his career more hits state. He might be
picked in the twenties of the draft. He might be
a good NBA player, but probably just a role player
and whatever.

Speaker 3 (14:13):
Or you got the power to.

Speaker 5 (14:15):
Make Cooper Flag the youngest National Player of the Year
in the history of the sport, on his way to
being the number one pick in the NBA Draft. It's
kind of a cooler story, and I have been doing
this long enough to know that some voters are interested
in the cooler stories and the more fun stories. And
I think Cooper Flag is going to get some votes
he might not otherwise get because it's just a cooler

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story to have him as the player of the Year
as opposed to the guy who started his career at
Morehead State Gary.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
I'll make it.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
I would make a quick prediction though, if you had
Saint John's in New Mexico, Patino versus Patino in the
second round. All due respect to your friends at True
TV and even TNT, I have a feeling I know
where that game would be at. It would be it
would be on a different network. It would be the
one that you work for, the big network, right.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
I would assume.

Speaker 5 (15:01):
So, I mean, Saint John's has really captured New York
City in a way that it hatten't for decades. So
you know, yeah, it's Rick Patino, it's the New York market,
it's a big East brand. Saint John's is one of
the biggest things going right now. I promise you, my
boss is they'll take them anytime they can get them
right now. With Ricketino, you know, in a white suit

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or otherwise they'll take them anytime they can get them.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
Yeah, they would be on CBS and there will be
absolutely no doubt about that big ten Ohio State, Nebraska, Indiana,
all bubble teams right now, how many do you think
are going to get in?

Speaker 4 (15:35):
Two of those three, of those one of those three.

Speaker 3 (15:38):
It's you know, it's always a fluid situation.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
But I'll tell you what I'm rooting for, and that's
Indiana to get there, because it's just.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
You're rooting for anarchy, you're rooting You're rooting for the
story right there.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
I just root for things that will make me chuckle
and Indiana.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Indiana being in the incident a tournament in the same
season where the fans were chanting at home in the
middle of games to fire the coach, so much so
that depending on who you listen to, either Indiana did
fire the coach or the coach said I don't want
to continue after the season.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
Either way, the results same.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
I just think for a fan base that is constantly
being told you, guys need to calm down a little bit,
you're not helping the situation, and they get very offended
by that every time you say it or anybody says it,
they just insist you don't understand. Nobody understands. You're all
talking out of school. But don't ever forget this is
a fan base who just convinced its coach or its

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administration either way, to remove a coach in the middle
of a season that wasn't going that badly, like they
still might make the incident of a tournament.

Speaker 3 (16:44):
In fact, as of this minute, they're projected to be
in it.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
And if you can't even enjoy a season on the
way to the incident of la tournament, yeah, maybe you
need to listen to Purdue coach Matt Painter when he says,
just as somebody who's worked in the state for a
long time telling you, you fann at least the diehards,
the hardcore wins.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
They're not helping the situation.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
They're not helping Mike Woodson, just like they didn't help
Archie Miller before him, just like they didn't help Time
preem before him.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Gary Perry shorting his courtesy of our friends and Noel
lae Brewing. All right, let me get to the top seeds. Auburn.
All year long, you've had Auburn as a number one seed.
Along the way, maybe the number one overall seed. Took
the loss the other day.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Can they take more losses and still be the number
one overall seed?

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Does that matter? They still on the one line no
matter what. What do you see with Auburn.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
They will be a one seed no matter what. I
would bet like.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
And they have Alabama this weekend, by the way, so.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
Yeah, and they could lose that game and then they
could be the one seed the SEC tournament, play in
the quarterfinals and lose that game, and they will be
a one seed. I was gonna say, I bet my
life on it. I don't want to gamble with my life.
But you get the point. They're gonna be a one
seed no matter what. I guess it's a question about
whether there'll be the number one overall seed no matter what.
For some it's not really a quick in my mind.

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I'll just give you some numbers. They're fifteen and three
in Quadrant twenty seven and three overall. If you don't
make Auburn number one right now, the school everybody wants
you to make number one is Duke, which is fine.
Duke's great Duke is also six and three in Quadrant one,
so they have nine fewer Quadrant one wins and a

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lower winning percentage within the quadrant than Auburn has. So
it's one of those things where if you're a Duke
fan and you want to say, hey, that's cool that
we have nine fewer Quadrant one wins than them, but like,
what are we supposed to do? We don't get all
those opportunities we play in the ACC and not the SEC.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Well, you even in the opportunities.

Speaker 5 (18:40):
You were given, you haven't won them at a rate
similar to the rate Auburn's won it's games. So I
really do believe Auburn could lose to Alabama this weekend.
I don't think it will, but it could, and then
Auburn could lose its first game in the SEC tournament,
and Auburn on selection Sunday would be fifteen and five
in quadrat one.

Speaker 3 (18:56):
Nobody is going to be able to match that. It
not even close. Really.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
You could take Duke, let them went out, Houston, let
them went out, Florida, let him went out, and nobody's
gonna be able to sniff Auburn's resume. It doesn't matter
what they do going forward. And I think that's why
they lost the other night. They've wrapped up everything you
need to wrap up, and they lost focus just a
little bit. Bruce Pearl said it after the game. Auburn
will be the first name to circle back to Adam Zucker.
The first name you hear Adam Zucker say on selection Sunday,

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that will be Bruce Pearl's Auburn.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Garry Perrys brout to me, no life, Okay, I'm gonna
ask you just a kind of a different question here
to wrap things up. As we look at the top
sixteen seeds, the one through four lines along the way,
and I look through there, there's six SEC teams. Three
could be number one seeds about to combine, roughly eight
between the big twelve and the big ten. One from

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the Big East. Saint John's solidly in that top sixteen.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Probably.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
I think they have Jerry Palm's inm a three seed
right now and just one out of the ACC, the
same number as the Big East, and that would be
of course the Duke Blue Devils.

Speaker 4 (19:58):
What's happened to the ACC.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
A lot of things.

Speaker 5 (20:03):
I think the most obvious one is that you just
look at some of the biggest brands, right. Pitt was
a big brand under Ben Holland, under Jamie Dixon. It
fell off completely after Jamie Dixon. Wake Forest is historically
a strong basketball brand, hadn't been the instul A tournament
in a long time. Florida State was really good under

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Leonard Hamilton going to Elite eights. Fell off to the
point where Leonard is this is his last season. Notre
Dame under Mike Bray was consistently a top twenty five program.
Mike Bray gets pushed out. That program has been down
for a while. Virginia won a national championship six years ago.
Tony Bennett has retired. That program is outside of the

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top one hundred in the net right now. N C
State is a historically strong program. It's one hundred and
thirtieth in the net right now. Syracuse is one of
the biggest brands of my entire life. Jim Beheim retired.
Looks like they made a mistake in the hiring process.
There are one hundred and four in the net right now.
Miami was in the final four just a few years
ago with Jim. Larenega is currently ranked two hundred and

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thirtieth in the net, and Larenega is on his way
to retirement. Simply put, and oh and that doesn't even count.
They lost Rick Patino, they lost Mike Krzyzewski, they lost
Roy Williams. This is all stuff that's happened like in
the past five, six, seven years, and it's taken a
toll on the league. It's the fifth best league in
the country right now according to the net. But and

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this is brute as crazy as it sounds, closer in
accomplishment to Conference USA and the Atlantic Ten than it
is the SEC and the Big Ten. It is still
a power conference with some big brands, but it is
down as bad as it's ever been.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
In my I think life, probably.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
And unless they make some really good hires to get
these things, these programs that need to be good back
on track, it's going to stay down here significantly trailing
the SEC and the Big ten.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
And oh, by the way, Nil is also a big
problem in that league. Duke has it. North Carolina has it,
but too many of the other programs are not.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
They don't have the funds the resources to compete with SEC,
Big ten, Big twelve programs. And that shows up. People
used to always look at recruiting rankings. Now the most
important thing. Go look at transfer portal rankings. Every off season.
That's where the money is being spent, and it's being
dominated by the SEC Big ten and Big twelve.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
When we talk next, we'll be in the middle of
conference tournament week. Some dreams will be being busted on
that Thursday a week from now. Some others will be
realized too. So we are on the cuspit. The music
is playing in the background.

Speaker 3 (22:38):
I feel it.

Speaker 2 (22:38):
Here we go. It is a great time of the year.
Love it and we love having you on every week. Gary,
Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
All right, brother, can't waite. We'll do it again next week.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
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Game day, Game day for the Kracking, which is a
weird vibe because just everyone kind of waiting to see
what shoe drops next, but probably nothing else is going
to happen today, but we'll see what happens tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (24:05):
Will be at the thirty two Bar and Grill. Are
you out there with me tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (24:08):
I would love to be. If you would have me,
absolutely yes, then I will be.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You can help me corral one Ron Francis and we're
out there tomorrow. Hey, before I go any further, I
want to wish my mother a happy birthday as we'd
say north of the border. My mom a happy birthday.
She is eighty eight years young today.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
Happy birthday, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Carl Ferness, happy birthday to you and born in moose Jaw,
Saskatchewan back and eighty eight years ago today, man grew
up a little bit in the Prairies, moved to British Columbia,
beautiful Nelson, BC. And my Canadian mom is celebrating her
birthday today. So hopefully I obviously won't be able to
get to see her since I'm over here, but hopefully

(24:53):
she'll be able to get to enjoy her favorite thing,
which would be a vodka martini with not a lot
in it besides the vodkast.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
So hey, at eighty eight, you get whatever you want, right,
you get what you want?

Speaker 4 (25:06):
Yeah right, Jess, you get whatever you want at eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
And you you you enjoy it and you hopefully will
be getting pampered. My sisters will take care of that
tonight for me. So uh yeah, So happy birthday to
my mom who's eighty eight today from moose Jaw, Saskatchewan
and as her son gets ready to do a hockey
game tonight, so all right, let's get to us in
text four nine four five one tell them text line it's.

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Game, it is time.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Hey, it's the unofficial start to the weekend.

Speaker 4 (25:32):
Yeah, you know what it's I'm kicking myself right now.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
These days get away from me. I'll be honest with you,
because I thought of that today. Oh and I thought
of that today and on my in my like, oh,
I need to I need to text Jess and we
should just play that or something, do something, because we
do that during for people don't know, during the fan
during the football season. We have our friend Brendon Funston

(25:58):
on every Thursday and we talk fantasy football and we
call it the unofficial start of the weekend Thursday afternoon
because really, I mean, I don't know. Jess was a
lot better student, I'm sure than me. But when I
was in college, our weekend kind of started on Wednesday,
but really started on Thursday over in Pullman, in God's Country.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
So yeah, I'd thought about that, the unofficial start of
the weekend. Man.

Speaker 7 (26:20):
During my spring season, I did start on a Thursday
or two.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
But do you even have a weekend. I know, I
don't have a weekend. This weekend we got cracking games.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
No, we got a lot going on this weekend. It's
still not the typical shift. Yes, I guess I can
say that.

Speaker 4 (26:36):
Yes, yes, I thought so. All right, shout out to
our buddy Mitch too. Get well, Bundy, get well.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Okay, let me let me do this. Let's get to
text four nine, four or five one. Let's see a
punk move by DK, didn't the Seahawks fire Tyler Lockett? Yeah,
listen to six. Give your head a shake for a second. Well, yeah,
just just give your head a shake. The Seahawks and
Tyler Lockett worked out. They knew, both sides knew what
was going to happened. It was an amicable release, and

(27:02):
they were trying to pay tribute to him that day yesterday.
They set it up. If you noticed, they released four
guys the day before that didn't have the equity longevity
that Tyler had. They made yesterday it was gonna be
Tyler's day. We could all celebrate and pay tribute to Tyler.
And you know what, the DK stuff kind of jumped
right over that.

Speaker 7 (27:20):
All the news would have been about Tyler in this
market at least.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, yes, that's the point.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Let's see, I'm just looking for something I wonder you
know what, I'm gonna do instead. All due respect to
your texts, I have no time for your negativity today,
So let me do this.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I want to do something else.

Speaker 6 (27:42):
Okay, Okay, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (27:44):
I wanted, I forget.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
I wanted to do this yesterday and I did not
get a chance to tell a Tyler Lockett story.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
I told you guys what to help you know?

Speaker 2 (27:51):
We all think you know any of us, just me,
anybody has dealt with them softy, whoever it is. We've
all had great interactions with Tyler Lockett over the years,
over his decades.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Yea.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
And it was funny because I saw this from John Boyle,
because it reminded me of a story that kind of
epitomized who Tyler Lockett is. And I don't want to
say was he's still with us? But who and what
Tyler Lockett is? But who he is as a teammate
as well. So two years ago when the Seahawks finished
the season, So two years ago, three years ago, it

(28:25):
would been three years ago when the Seahawks finished the
season in Arizona against the Cardinals.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
And do you remember when Quandry Diggs broke his ankle
in that game?

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Remember that one yes, and.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
So you know, in Quandrey was going to be an
unrestricted free agent, he was in line for a pretty good,
pretty healthy contract, which frankly he ended up getting a
pretty good one, but maybe not as good as he
would have. But he broke his leg in the last
game of the season, playing a game that frankly didn't
mean anything. Seahawks weren't going to get to the playoffs.
They were eliminated before the kickoff that day. They got

(28:58):
down to one game, but they were eliminated before the kickoff.
He broke his leg in that game, so you know,
he and it was it was a clean ended up
being a clean fat fracture, but it was bad as
a compound fracture and they needed to get it, you know,
surgically repaired pretty.

Speaker 4 (29:12):
Quick they do.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
And where they go for that, you know, all these
NFL teams have their places they go for things. Where
they were going to go for this was actually, of
all places, Green Bay, wisconsinant So whoever the doctor is
out there is he's the ankle doctor. Let's just say that, right.
So game's over, season's over. A bunch of us that
were covering the team, we went out to dinner and

(29:36):
we came back to the team hotel at I don't know,
nine o'clock, eight thirty nine whenever it was, walk into
the lobby and sitting in the lobby were Tyler Lockett
and Quandre Diggs and along with one of the Seahawks
PR guys are Buddy Chris and they were getting ready
to jump in a car and Jody Allen.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
And this also.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
Speaks a little bit to the organization they had. They
had a plane that was chartered to come down to
pick up to pick up Quandre Diggs and take him
back to get the surgery. Well, Tyler Lockett last game
of the season said I'm sticking around. I'm gonna fly
back there with you. Yeah, didn't get on the team plane,
went with his teammate and flew back east along with

(30:18):
with Chris.

Speaker 4 (30:19):
I think Chris Whitehead was back there our PR front.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
But they went back there and they he but Tyler
decided he's going to fly back there with his teammate.
And I remember we walked in the lot and we
see him there, Hey, what's going on? And by then,
I mean, if you remember, Kwandra was pretty distraught when
he came off the field, not because of the pain
as much as just you know, bigger picture do I
Am I going to still get paid? You know, it's
it's my chance to get the contract that kind of
sets up my family for.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Life and all those things.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Yes, he was a lot better spirits by then, but
having Tyler there certainly helped him.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Or we've talked to him for I don't know, probably
ten minutes or so.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
He was telling us about the break because yes, probably
it's not there's no leghm in damage and stuff, and
Tyler's just like, yeah, this is you know, I'm going
back with him, and I just I I remember thinking
to myself, man, that's that's a teammate, that's a friend,
that's a quality guy. Because the season's over, you're you
should be on the charter back to Seattle, clean out

(31:11):
your locker and off to vacation the next day. And
instead this guy's like, no, I'm flying back there with
my with.

Speaker 7 (31:18):
My teammate and not even same position group, not even
same section of the locker room, not even close, right,
you know, if it's DK and Tyler for instance, that's
the thing.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
And I saw John Boyle from Seaux dot com put
that out yesterday because John was. I think John went
to dinner with us, we all go out to dinner together,
and I remember he said that. I'm like, God, I'm
glad to remember reminded me of that, because that was
one of those things that you just see and it's
not something you're gonna report on or talk about. It's
not sports radio fi. It's just but it showed the
quality human being Tyler Lockett is. That's one of the

(31:48):
reasons I thought yesterday's stuff by DK was just a
punk move, just a chump move along the way Tyler Lockett.
Tyler Lockett deserved better from everybody, not just in the organization,
but his teammates and others too, because you know what, DK,
if that would have been you, Tyler Lockett would have
done the same damn thing.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, the same damn.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Thing, even if it was his agent.

Speaker 7 (32:10):
DK had the where like he could have said, not today,
not today.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Not today, not today, not today. Anyway, that's who Tyler
Lockett is. I think I think that's more important than
some of the yes I know about the Mariners, Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Ron Francis, Yes, No, I think that's more important to
tell you about what a quality human being Tyler Lockett
is okay, well think a break, come back, check king
with Softy.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
Next already then wrapping things up, getting ready to hand
it off for an extended version of Dave, Softy Maul
and Richard L.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
Faine starting on track clock today.

Speaker 9 (32:48):
That's right, you know what, all those days where we
have to stay on the air past bedtime, or work
on a Saturday, or work on a Sunday. I don't
know when those days are, but when they do happen,
we'll look back at days like today.

Speaker 10 (33:00):
They were all worth it.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
I think for you, sir. They're during the football season.

Speaker 9 (33:03):
Yeah, twelve hour days on Saturdays. Man, sometimes they get
kind of along.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
But can you get out and hit some golf balls
or anything?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Today, I've been I've been inside in the studios, here
the outdoors weather.

Speaker 9 (33:15):
It's phenomenal right now, I'll be there tomorrow morning, and
i'll be there over the weekend. So h yeah, no,
I'm good. So hey, happy birthday. And to mom, by
the way, she appreciates very cool.

Speaker 10 (33:25):
Uh. And I agree with everything you guys said.

Speaker 9 (33:27):
When you reach that age, hell, when you reach our age,
you should just get to do whatever the hell you
want to agree, But no, judgment whatsoever.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
I might pass out along to the wife this weekend. Hey,
you know what, you know what my friend Softie says.
He says I should get anything.

Speaker 9 (33:41):
Or anything, if anything, do whatever, consume, whatever, partaken, whatever, anything.

Speaker 4 (33:47):
How do you think she'll accept, especially if they say
it's coming from you.

Speaker 9 (33:50):
I think if you say that to her, you'll call
me or text me and say, I'm coming over. Can
I sleep in your basement? I might be a time
like you know, like I'll be telling you, honest with you.
I'm fifty one, almost fifty two years old this August. Right,
I've never done coke good, never done heroin, never done
crack good, any of that stuff.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Aren't you the human version of both of those things?

Speaker 9 (34:13):
Yes, I have those I have the materials already naturally
being created by my body.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
Yes, all those things would cause you to spond to But.

Speaker 9 (34:22):
If I if I'm sitting there on my deathbed and
you know, God forbid what forty years I don't know,
thirty years, twenty years, five years from now, whatever that is,
and I've never done it, and somebody says, hey, you
want to you want to go down the cocaine road?

Speaker 10 (34:34):
I said, sure, Why not sure, why not? What the hell?

Speaker 4 (34:36):
That might end it right then and there though it
could problem it?

Speaker 9 (34:39):
Could you know if I ever get diagnosed with a
you know, incurable disease or illness or whatever, Yeah, I'll
be like you ever see what was the movie? Not
not not Brewsters Millions with Richard Pryor, but what's the
movie where the guys dieing and goes out and just
does whatever the hell he wants?

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Yes? Can you help the bucket List? Yes?

Speaker 9 (35:00):
The bucket List? The four guys, right, Morgan Freeman I
think was in it. Nicholson was in it.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
I don't think either.

Speaker 7 (35:07):
Four Oh are you talking about like wild hogs or
something like that?

Speaker 4 (35:11):
Who they were dying? That one? They're no country.

Speaker 9 (35:16):
The bucket List is Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson. Yes,
that's the one, and they were dying, and so they
just went out and just blew their entire savings account
and did whatever the hell they felt like doing.

Speaker 4 (35:26):
Would you be the guy that you would make you
go do that?

Speaker 2 (35:28):
By the way, No, would you be the guy that
want to want to jump out of a plane or
do something crazy like that?

Speaker 10 (35:34):
I probably would do that. I was supposed to do that.

Speaker 9 (35:37):
With my dad for his like seventieth birthday and both
of us whipped out.

Speaker 10 (35:40):
Didn't happen.

Speaker 9 (35:41):
God, we had the whole thing set up up there, moro,
they have a little airfield up there.

Speaker 10 (35:45):
We were going to do it and just said no.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
So I just I hope my kid never says, my
kids say, hey, what's out of a plane?

Speaker 10 (35:51):
No, you wouldn't do that.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean it's a good plane. Like,
why do you need to leave it?

Speaker 7 (35:58):
No?

Speaker 4 (35:58):
I'm good.

Speaker 9 (35:59):
But the Brians, you know, whatever, don't you want to
be like Felix Bumgarner and do like a fifty thousand
foot drop from space?

Speaker 10 (36:08):
Whatever?

Speaker 4 (36:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:09):
No, no, no, Yeah, if you want to go have
a drink on your on my seventieth birthday.

Speaker 9 (36:15):
About how about one of those submersibles and go visit
the Titanic.

Speaker 4 (36:18):
Well you saw how that ended.

Speaker 10 (36:19):
Not well, well that's one time.

Speaker 9 (36:21):
There's been a lot of them that have been okay, right, God,
you're like my wife when it comes to cruises. Oh,
she will not go on a cruise at all.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
My wife won't.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
She won't do it.

Speaker 9 (36:31):
You know why, remember that Italian boat that ran aground
like a decade ago, yeah, whatever that was.

Speaker 10 (36:37):
She's like, no, I'm out, won't do it.

Speaker 9 (36:41):
She's afraid of picking up some disease or getting sick
and being stuck on the boat and then the boat capsizes.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
And that's what alcohol whatever, that's what?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Well, here here, what is It's March sixth, about five
years ago. There was a bunch of those boats were
you know, bellied up next to up here with people
couldn't get off.

Speaker 4 (36:56):
That's right, this little thing called COVID exactly.

Speaker 10 (36:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (36:59):
I would not want to sit there on one of
those during some kind of a crises. So I kinda
get her point, but you know whatever, But they are fun.

Speaker 10 (37:06):
They are funny.

Speaker 4 (37:06):
All right, what are you doing to.

Speaker 10 (37:07):
The short show today?

Speaker 9 (37:09):
Well, Bob Nightingale I wrote a story yesterday about how ridiculous,
ridiculous it is that the m's aren't spending money and
got a quote from Justin Turner, which, my god, if
not for the DK Metcalf deal, yesterday would have been
Mariner Bash day. They got to reprieve until today. So
Bob's gonna join us at three point twenty. We'll do
a little fun with audio. Everett's gonna join us from Nashville.

(37:31):
Right before the pregame show starts and then face off
at five with the Pareds and Krack and your Home
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Speaker 4 (37:39):
Did you did you see the athletics.

Speaker 10 (37:41):
Story today, Diana's story?

Speaker 4 (37:43):
No? No, the one the long form interview with Jerry Depodle.

Speaker 9 (37:47):
Oh no, I did not. I know about it? Where
he U? He said, I can just say hello and
people would rip my ass. That's not really true, Jerry.
People rip you because of the other stuff that you say.

Speaker 2 (38:00):
Yeah, he had, They haven't had a good couple days,
but they can thank DK for that getting put it.

Speaker 9 (38:03):
Yeah, well that that comes to an end in about
five minutes from now.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
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(38:56):
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(39:37):
Speaking of college hoops, our guy standing by Gary Parrish,
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Speaker 2 (40:08):
Ah, the music is sounding, and this is the first
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(40:30):
and Spokane, Washington, where I gotta find out where the
Zags are. I didn't see him in the top five seeds.
I don't think they think they're down there a little bit.
Saint Mary's a higher seed. Who's the number ones? Who's
on the some legacy schools, big brands on the bubble.
There's one guy to talk about that with, and he
is here, Ladies and gentlemen. It is our friend Gary Parrish,
CBS Sports, CBS Sports dot Com, I on College Basketball

(40:52):
podcast and you can watch them on the CBS Sports Network.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
Hello, sir, how are you.

Speaker 3 (40:56):
I'm wonderful you've been all right.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
I'm good. I'm good.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
I you know, music to my ears on I think
it was well. I was listening to it maybe Monday.
I think maybe he put it together Sunday, the Matt Norlander,
you know, just real fast. Because it was a pretty
cool tribute. I would urge people to go listen to
the Iron College Basketball Podcast. I think it was the
one you posted Monday and there was about three and
a half four minutes that your partner Matt Normander put together.

(41:21):
And it was a soothing voice and sounds in March
of the late great Greg Gumbel.

Speaker 4 (41:26):
And it was just absolutely fantastic.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
And I don't think he was on the shows last year,
he was already ill. But we lost Greg this year,
but boy, he just was the voice of March madness.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Gary.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
He was the voice on Sunday with the bracket reveal
and then for US nine am Pacific time on Thursday,
hearing those docal tones coming through saying we're heading out
to Syracuse, New York for the first game tip off.

Speaker 4 (41:50):
Here we go. We're gonna miss Greg.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
It's an incredible legacy.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
And just think about what he did every selection Sunday
for decades. And what I mean is this, like he
made dreams come true. Like there are people players, coaches,
fans of lums all over the world watching your television

(42:16):
show and waiting to.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
Hear what you say. Where are we going? First? Are
we in the bracket or not? Okay?

Speaker 5 (42:26):
If we are, where are we going? What seed are we?
Who are we playing? If we win, who might we
play next? Where are arrivals seated? Like Greg is the man,
the person who's response was responsible for delivering these these
these these these dreams that people will have forever, and

(42:49):
he was the voice of that. And you are right.
He had been sick for a while and he was
not on the selection show in twenty twenty four. Adam
Zucker hosted in his app since and Zook will take
on that role going forward, starting in you know, in
a couple of weeks.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
But yeah, Greg will be missed. And I will just
tell you.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
It was not something that we were all privy to
exactly how sick Greg was. It's just not something that
was said that. There are people who I don't want
to overstate it. I worked with Greg, some knew him
a little, but mostly just looked at him in amazement
from down here. There are obviously much more important people
at CBS who had real friendships with him, in long relationships,

(43:34):
and even some of them didn't know exactly how sick
he was and what he was dealing with. Greg kept
it private until the end, which I think says something
about him. And I didn't mean to turn this into this,
but he isn't somebody who wanted the sympathy or the
empathy or any of that stuff that comes along with it.

(43:55):
He just wanted to fight his fight privately best I
can tell. And it's a big for not just CBS,
but for college basketball.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
And Jenner, well, let's Gary Parrish jorning to I know,
I brewing, Yeah, it will. And Adam Zuker does a
phenomenal job with you guys on inside college basketball and overall,
I mean he's said he's a great, great guy to
step in. And so when we get to selection Sunday
and we are, as we say here and tape this today,
what are we ten days away from Selection Sunday? As

(44:24):
we get closer and closer to that, Gary, there are
some big brands out there that are squarely on a
bubble right now, we'll talk about one seeds and especially Auburn,
because you guys made the comment the end of the day,
and I think Jerry Palm even wrote about it as well, like, hey,
there's probably nothing they can knock Auburn off the number
one line.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
They did lose the other night.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
So we'll get to them in a second, but let's
start talking about some teams that are massive brands that
may be in danger of missing the tournament.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
I want to start if I.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
Can in the ACC a little school you might have
heard of called the tar Heels of North Carolina. Are
they in danger of not hearing Adam call their name
on that Sunday?

Speaker 3 (45:00):
Yes, I mean they're one in ten in Quadrant one.

Speaker 5 (45:03):
These quadrant systems have become just sort of a part
of the vocabulary of college basketball, for better or worse.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
And I understand if you want to.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
Argue worse, because I find myself sometimes talking about these
things and recognizing there's people listening who follow the sport,
but it's like I'm speaking in a foreign language. But
the way the selection committee does evaluate resumes is with
the quadrant system that was created by the NC Double A,
and the most important quadrant is Quadra one. That's where
you get your big wins. And they have won one

(45:31):
of those. They're one in ten in Quadrant one. So
it's not like they haven't had opportunities, they just haven't
taken advantage of them.

Speaker 3 (45:37):
They can get there.

Speaker 5 (45:39):
They've got an opportunity to add one of the biggest
wins you could possibly add this weekend, but that would
require them to upset a DUP team that has been
absolutely rolling, beating everybody and I don't mean just badly,
but by twenty five thirty to thirty five points, killing people.
There's nothing that's happened this season that would lead me
to try to convince you that North Carolina is about

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to be that team. But it is a rivalry between
in state competitors, and we've seen where things happen before.
But it appears no matter what happens with this tar
Hill season, Hubert Davis is going to be brought back
for another season. And that's fine, that's up to North Carolina.
But I have made the point that, you know, taking

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personal feelings, setting them aside if you're North Carolina, because
sometimes fans get caught up in these types of conversations
like if you missed being some of a tournament, you
must be fired.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But if you make it, then you're good to go.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
And it's like that could be the difference in one
game and making long term decisions, or it could be
the difference in one person's opinion on the selection committee.
I just think taking that type of responsibility and placing
it in you know, drawing arbitrary lines and placing it
in other people's hands seems crazy to me.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Like at the end of the season.

Speaker 5 (46:49):
If you're North Carolina or anywhere else, you should be
asking yourself, is this the best coach we should have?
Is this the best coach we could have? North Carolina
is maybe the best job in the sport. If you
put it up, you know, to a poll and ask
college basketball coaches if they can have any job in
the sport, North Carolina might finish.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
Number one for a variety of reasons.

Speaker 5 (47:10):
Well, that means North Carolina should have one of the
best coaches in the country, one of the best coaches
in the world.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
Does it?

Speaker 5 (47:16):
That's a question they can answer, right, But do they
have one of the best coaches in the world.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
And if they don't, if you cannot say definitively yes,
we do, well, then you don't have the right coach
for the job. And you're gonna have to fix that
at some point, whether it's this year or next.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Or winning all Right, So, one of the best coaches
ever in the history of the sport, he now finds
himself in Arkansas.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
Is is Calipari in Arkansas? Are they in danger of
missing this tournament?

Speaker 5 (47:46):
Yes, but not as much danger as they seem to
be three weeks ago, a month ago, when they started
zero to five in the sec The Ji Calipari stuff
at Arkansas got off to a horrific start.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
You know, he needed to bounce to Kentucky.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
The quality of life had become miserable, and just for
the sake of his family. Frankly, he needed to get
out of there for the same reasons that Tubby Smith
once upon a time needed to get out of there.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
Like don't ever forget this.

Speaker 5 (48:13):
The last three Kentucky basketball coaches, they fired one of
them after two years, that was Billy Gillespie, and the
other two the fans made life still miserable for them
that they left for inferior jobs. Tubby Smith voluntarily left
to go to Minnesota. He wasn't fired. He said, I
don't want to be the Kentucky coach anymore. This thinks

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this is miserable. And John cali Perry more or less
made the same decision. But Arkansas did say, Hey, we
might not be Kentucky, but we can match him dollar
for dollar. You know, we can give you all the
nail money you need to go out and buy a team.
And he did that, and he built a team that
people like me thought on paper was good enough to
be preseason top twenty and then they started zero to

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five in the SEC, and no matter where this goes,
it's still going to be a disappointing season. I've heard
some people to give John credit for turning things around.
I heard one analyst even say it's one of John
Cala Perry's best coaching jobs ever.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
No, he had a preseason top twenty teen.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
This is a man who's coached in multiple Final four,
has been in a national championship game. Those are his
best coaching jobs ever. He had a preseason top twenty
team that's now on the bubble. This is a bad
coaching job, but he has turned it around. They're seven
and five in their last twelve and that doesn't sound
like much, but in the SEC that's actually very good
and good enough to get you safely in the Innfanblay Tournament.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
They've got a shot to get there.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
But it has been a roller coaster of a ride
and fail when Yeah, largely a disappointing season for John.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
Before I go back to a couple of Bowl teams,
a sidebar here, real quick, Garry Perry joining's cursey, No
I bring and I'm gonna be maybe almost hypocritical here
when I say this because with the college football Playoff
and even with and we've seen this forever with the
NCAA Tournament and March, badness unto the bracket comes out.
Big brands matter, sometimes at the expense of or brands

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that could be more deserving or are better teams along
the way. And I say that with this in mind
this year the bubble, and then you can kind of describe
it if it's soft and how it would be. But
an NCAA tournament, if you have the potential to have
John cal party and I want to have.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
A minute like if that sounds right.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And I just felt as a guy that school got
destroyed by the demise of the Pac twelve and I'm
so sick of big brands and the snobbiness of the
Big ten and the SEC. I'm a little bit of
a hypocrite to say that, But if Calcamby in the
in the tournament, that's kind of fun.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Of course.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
And I stopped short of when you see interesting matchups
or potential matchups in the bracket, insisting that the committee
did that on purpose, for instance, like you could get
I'm just making this up, But let's say there was
a potential second round matchup between Saint John's and New Mexico.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
And people will.

Speaker 5 (50:56):
Yeah, all the committee did that on purposebody who used
to actually create brackets and follow the procedures and put
them together the same way Jerry Palm does now and
Joe Lonarti does now, Like before Jerry Palm was doing
it full time for us, I would do this. I
would spend part of my February and March creating brackets.
I can just tell you there is not a bracket

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of sixty eight teams that has ever been created that
didn't unintentionally just have interesting matchups that popped up.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
They're unavoidable, so you're always going.

Speaker 5 (51:27):
To see things like, oh, that's a coach against the
school that he used to work at, or that's a
coach against one of his former assistants, or that's a
coach against his brother. Like these things are they're just
gonna pop up because there's so many potential storylines. So
I stopped short of saying that that's done intentionally, but
I will agree with you these people who make these

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decisions are humans, and humans have biases, whether you know
it or not, and those things can play a role.
I'll tell you where it might come into play in
the National Player of the Year race, because right now,
National Player of the Year voters have the power, for
lack of a better word, to do one of two things.
Give the National Player of the Year award to Jeni Broom,

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who's a perfectly great college player, but he's just a
guy who started his career More Hits State. He might
be picked in the twenties of the draft. He might
be a good NBA player, but probably just a role
player and whatever. Or you got the power to make
Cooper Flag the youngest National Player of the Year in
the history of the sport on his way to being
the number one pick in the NBA Draft. It's kind

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of a cooler story. And I have been doing this
long enough to know that some voters are interested in
the cooler stories and the more fun stories. And I
think Cooper Flag is going to get some votes he
might not otherwise get because it's just a cooler story
to have him as the player of the Year as
opposed to the guy who started his career at More
Hit State.

Speaker 4 (52:49):
Gary. I'll make it.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
I would make a quick prediction, though, if you had
Saint John's in New Mexico, Patino versus Patino in the
second round. All due respect to your friends at True
TV and even TNT, I have a feeling I know
where that game would be at. It would be on
it would be on a different network. It would be
the one that you work for, the big network, right.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
I would assume.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
So, I mean, Saint John's has really captured New York
City in a way that it hatten't for decades. So
you know, yeah, it's Rick Patino, it's the New York market,
it's a big East brand. Saint John's is one of
the biggest things going right now. I promise you my
boss is they'll take them anytime they can get them
right now with Ricketino, you know, in a white suit

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or otherwise, they'll take them anytime they can.

Speaker 2 (53:32):
Get Yeah, they would be on CBS, and there will
be absolutely no doubt about that. Big ten Ohio, State, Nebraska, Indiana,
all bubble teams right now, how many do you think
are going to get in?

Speaker 4 (53:43):
Two of those three? Of those one of those three.

Speaker 5 (53:46):
It's you know, it's always a fluid situation. But I'll
tell you what I'm rooting for, and that's Indiana to
get there.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
Because it's just you're rooting for anarchy, you're rooting you're
rooting for the story right there.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
I just root for things that will make me chuckle.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
And Indiana, Indiana being in the incident of LA Tournament
in the same season where the fans were chanting at
home in the middle of games to fire the coach,
so much so that depending on who you listen to,
either Indiana did fire the coach or the coach said
I don't want to continue after the season.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Either way, the results same.

Speaker 5 (54:20):
I just think for a fan base that is constantly
being told you, guys need to calm down a little bit,
you're not helping the situation, and they get very offended
by that. Every time you say it or anybody says it,
they just insist you don't understand. Nobody understands. You're all
talking out of school. But don't ever forget this is
a fan base who just convinced its coach or its

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administration either way, to remove a coach in the middle
of a season that wasn't going that badly like they
still might make the incident LA Tournament. In fact, as
of this minute, they're projected to be in it. And
if you can't even enjoy a season on the way
to the incident of Lay Turner. Yeah, maybe you need
to listen to Purdue coach Matt Painter when he says,

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just as somebody who's worked in the state for a
long time telling you your fan base, at least the diehards,
the hardcore wins, they're not helping the situation. They're not
helping Mike Woodson, just like they didn't help Archie Miller
before him, just like they didn't help Time Preem before him.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
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Speaker 4 (55:21):
All right, let me get to the top seeds.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Auburn all year long, you've had Auburn as a number
one seed along the way, maybe the number one overall
seed took the loss the other day. Can they take
more losses and still be the number one overall seed?
Does that matter? They still on the one line no
matter what. What do you see with Auburn.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
They will be a one seed no matter what. I
would bet like.

Speaker 4 (55:46):
They may have Alabama this weekend, by the way, so.

Speaker 5 (55:48):
Yeah, and they could lose that game and then they
could be the one seed the SEC tournament, play in
the quarterfinals and lose that game, and they will be
a one seed. I was gonna say, I bet my
life on it. I don't want to gamble with my life.
But you get the point. They're going to be a
one seed no matter what. I guess it's a question
about whether there'll be the number one overall seed no
matter what. For some, it's not really a question in

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my mind. I'll just give you some numbers. They're fifteen
and three in quadrant twenty seven and three overall. If
you don't make Auburn number one right now, the school
everybody wants you to make number one is Duke, which
is fine. Duke's great Duke is also six and three
in Quadrant one, so they have nine fewer Quadrant one

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wins and a lower winning percentage within the quadrant than
Auburn has. So it's one of those things where if
you're a Duke fan and you want to say, hey,
that's cool that we have nine fewer Quadrant one wins
than them, but like, what are we supposed to do?
We don't get all those opportunities we play in the
ACC and not the SEC. Well, you, even in the
opportunities you were given, you haven't won them. At a

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rate similar to the rate Auburn's one it's games. So
I really do believe Auburn could lose to Alabama this weekend.
I don't think it will, but it could, and then
Auburn could lose its first game in the SEC Tournament,
and Auburn on Selection Sunday would be fifteen and five
in quadrat ie.

Speaker 3 (57:04):
Nobody is gonna be able to match that, not even close. Really.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
You could take Duke, let them went out, Houston, let
them went out, Florida, let him went out, and nobody's
gonna be able to sniff Auburn's resume. It doesn't matter
what they do going forward. And I think that's why
they lost the other night. They've wrapped up everything you
need to wrap up, and they lost focus just a
little bit. Bruce Pearl said it after the game. Auburn
will be the first name to circle back to Adam Zucker.
The first name you hear Adam Zucker say on Selection Sunday,

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that will be Bruce Pearl's Auburn.

Speaker 4 (57:31):
Garry Perry's bout to me no life.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Okay, I'm gonna ask you just a kind of a
different question here to wrap things up as we look
at the top sixteen seeds, the one through four lines
along the way, and I.

Speaker 4 (57:43):
Look through there, there's six SEC teams.

Speaker 2 (57:46):
Three could be number one seeds about to combine, roughly
eight between the Big twelve and the Big ten. One
from the Big East. Saint John's solidly in that top sixteen.

Speaker 4 (57:57):
Probably.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
I think they have Jerry Palmers in a three seed
right now and just one out of the ACC, the
same number as the Big East, and that would be,
of course the.

Speaker 4 (58:05):
Duke Blue Devils. What's happened to the ACC.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
A lot of things.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
I think the most obvious one is that you just
look at some of the biggest brands, right. Pitt was
a big brand under Ben Holland. Under Jamie Dixon, it
fell off completely after Jamie Dixon. Wake Forest is historically
a strong basketball brand, hadn't been the Insula Tournament in
a long time. Florida State was really good under Leonard

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Hamilton going to Elite eights. Fell off to the point
where Leonard this is his last season. Notre Dame under
Mike Bray was consistently a top twenty five program. Mike
Bray gets pushed out that program has been down for
a while, Virginia won a national championship six years ago.
Tony Bennett has retired. That program is outside of the

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top one hundred in the NET right now. N C
State is a historically strong program. It's one hundred and
thirtieth in the NET right now. Syracuse is one of
the biggest brands of my entire life. Jim Beheim retire.
Looks like they made a mistake in the hiring process.
They're one hundred and fortieth in the NET right now.
Miami was in the final four just a few years
ago with Jim. Larenega is currently ranked two hundred and

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thirtieth in the NET, and Larenega is on his way
to retirement, simply put, And oh that doesn't even count.
They lost Rick Patino, they lost Mike Krzyzewski, they lost
Roy Williams. This is all stuff that's happened like in
the past five, six, seven years, and it's taken a
toll on the league. It's the fifth best league in
the country right now according to the net. But and

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this is brute as crazy as it sounds, closer in
accomplishment to Conference USA and the Atlantic Ten than it
is the SEC and the Big Ten. It is still
a power conference with some big brands, but it is
down as bad as it's ever been in my I

(59:57):
think life probably, And let's they make some really good
hires to get these things, these programs that need to
be good back on track. It's gonna stay down here
significantly trailing the SEC and the Big ten. And oh,
by the way, nil is also a big problem in
that league. Duke has it, North Carolina has it, but
too many of the other programs are not. They don't
have the funds, the resources to compete with SEC, Big ten,

(01:00:18):
Big twelve programs, and that shows up. People used to
always look at recruiting rankings. Now the most important thing.
Go look at transfer portal rankings every off season. That's
where the money is being spent, and it's being dominated
by the SEC, Big ten and Big twelve.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
When we talk next, we'll be in the middle of
conference tournament week. Some dreams will be being busted on
that Thursday a week from now. Some others will be
realized too. So we are on the cuspit. The music
is playing in the background.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I feel it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
Here we go. It is a great time of the year.
Love it and we love having you on every week, Gary,
thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
All right, brother, can't waite. We'll do it again next week.

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All right, we're back on our Foundation studios today.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
He internesced with you. Jess Went's back at the studio
doing some double duty.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
You gotta do the afternoon show as well Jackson working
cracking tonight, so we were kind of all over the
place on this kracking.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
Thursday afternoon are everywhere day.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Game day for the Kraken, which is a weird vibe
because just everyone kind of waiting to see what shoe
drops next. But probably nothing else is going to happen today,
but we'll see what happens tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Will be at the thirty two bar and grill. Are
you out there with me tomorrow?

Speaker 7 (01:02:16):
I would love to be. If you would have me,
absolutely yes, then I will be.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
You can help me corral one Ron Francis and we're
out there tomorrow. Hey, before I go any further, I
want to wish my mother a happy birthday, as we'd
say north of the border. My mom a happy birthday.
She is eighty eight years young today.

Speaker 6 (01:02:37):
Happy birthday.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Yeah, so Carol Ferness, happy birthday to you and born
in moose Jaw, Saskatchewan back and eighty eight years ago today,
man grew up a little bit in the Prairies, moved
to British Columbia, beautiful Nelson, BC, and my Canadian mom
is celebrating her birthday today, so hopefully I obviously won't

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be able to get to see her since I'm over here,
but hopefully she'll be able to get to enjoy her
favorite thing, which would be a vodka martini with not
a lot in it besides the vodka.

Speaker 7 (01:03:08):
So hey, at eighty eight, you get whatever you want, right,
you get what you want?

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Yeah right, Jess, you get whatever you want at eighty eight.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
And you you you enjoy it and you hopefully will
be getting pampered.

Speaker 4 (01:03:20):
My sisters will take care of that tonight for me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:22):
So uh yeah, So happy birthday to my mom who's
eighty eight today from Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan and as her
son gets ready to do a hockey game tonight. So
all right, let's get to us a text four nine
four five one tele text line.

Speaker 4 (01:03:36):
It is time.

Speaker 6 (01:03:38):
Hey, it's the unofficial start to the weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
Yeah, you know what, it's I'm kicking myself right now.
These days get away from me. I'll be honest with you,
because I thought of that today. Oh and I thought
of that today and on my in my like, oh,
I need to I need to text Jess and we
should just play that or something, do some thing, because
we do that during for people who don't know during.

Speaker 4 (01:04:03):
The football season.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
We have our friend Brendon Funston on every Thursday and
we talk fantasy football, and we call it the unofficial
start of the weekend Thursday afternoon because really, I mean,
I don't know. Jess was a lot better student, I'm
sure than me. But when I was in college, our
weekend kind of started on Wednesday, but really started on
Thursday over in Pullman, in God's Country.

Speaker 4 (01:04:24):
So yeah, I'd thought about that, the unofficial start of
the weekend. Man.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
During my spring season, I did start on a Thursday
or two.

Speaker 4 (01:04:32):
But do you even have a weekend. I know, I
don't have a weekend. This weekend. We got cracking games.

Speaker 7 (01:04:36):
No, we got a lot going on this weekend. It's
still not the typical shift. Yes, I guess I can
say that.

Speaker 4 (01:04:44):
Yes, yes, I thought so.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
All right, shout out to our buddy Mitch to get well, Bunny,
get well. Okay, let me let me do this. Let's
get to the text four nine four or five one? Uh.
Let's see a punk move by DK, didn't the Seahawks
fire title lockett? Yeah, listen to six Your head of
shake for a second, well, yeah, just just give your
head a shake. The Seahawks and Tyler Lockett worked out.
They knew both sides knew what was going to happen.

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It was an amicable release, and they were trying to
pay tribute to him that day yesterday they set it up.
If you noticed, it released four guys the day before
that didn't have the equity longevity that Tyler had. They
made yesterday it was gonna be Tyler's day. We could
all celebrate and pay tribute to Tyler. And you know what,
the DK stuff kind of jump right over that.

Speaker 7 (01:05:28):
All the news would have been about Tyler in this
market at least.

Speaker 6 (01:05:33):
Yeah, yes, that's the point.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Let's see, I'm just looking for something I want to
you know what I'm gonna do instead, all due respect
to your texts, I have no time for your negativity today,
so let me do this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
I want to do something else.

Speaker 6 (01:05:50):
Okay, okay, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:52):
I wanted, I forget.

Speaker 2 (01:05:53):
I wanted to do this yesterday and I did not
get a chance to tell a Tyler Lockett story.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
I told you guys what to help.

Speaker 2 (01:05:59):
You know, we all think you know any of us,
jes me, anybody has dealt with them softy, whoever it is,
We've all had great interactions with Tyler Lockett over the years,
over his decade in Scout. And it was funny because
I saw this from John Boyle, because it reminded me
of a story that kind of epitomized who Tyler Lockett is.

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And I don't want to say it was he's still
with us, but who and what Tyler Lockett is, but
who he is as a teammate as well. So two
years ago when the Seahawks finished the season, So two
years ago, three years ago. It had been three years
ago when the Seahawks finished the season in Arizona against
the Cardinals. And do you remember when Quandry Diggs broke

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his ankle in that game?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
Remember that on? Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
And so you know in Quandrey was going to be
an unrestricted free agent. He was in line for a
pretty good, pretty healthy contract, which frankly, he ended up
getting a pretty good one, but maybe not as good
as he would have But he broke his leg in
the last game of the season, playing a game that
frankly didn't mean anything. Seahawks weren't going to get to
the playoffs. They were eliminated before the kickoff that day.

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They got down to one game, but they were eliminated
before the kickoff. He broke his leg in that game,
so you know, he and it was it was a
clean ended up being a clean fat fracture, but it
was bad as a compound fracture and they needed to
get it, you know, surgically repaired pretty.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
Quick they do.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
And where they go for that, you know, all these
NFL teams have their places they go for things. Where
they were going to go for this was actually, of
all places, Green Bay, wisconstant. So whoever the doctor is
out there is he's the ankle doctor. Let's just say that, right.
So game's over, season's over. A bunch of us that
were covering the team, we went out to dinner and

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we came back to the team hotel at I don't know,
nine o'clock, eight thirty nine whenever it was, walk into
the lobby and sitting in the lobby were Tyler Lockett
and Quandre Diggs and along with one of the Seahawks
PR guys, Chris and they were getting ready to jump
in a car and Jody Allen. And this also speaks

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a little bit to the organization they had. They had
a plane that was chartered to come down to pick
up to pick up Quandre Diggs and take him back
to get the surgery. Well, Tyler Lockett last game of
the season said I'm sticking around. I'm gonna fly back
there with you. Yeah, didn't get on the team plane,
went with his teammate and flew back east along with

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with Chris I think Chris Whitehead was back there our
pr front. But they went back there and he but
Tyler decided he's going to fly back there with his teammate.
And I remember we walked in the lot and we
see him there. Hey, what's going on? And by then,
I mean, if you remember, Kwandra was pretty distraught when
he came off the field, not because of the pain
as much as just you know, bigger picture do I
Am I going to still get paid? You know, it's

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it's my chance to get the contract that kind of
sets up my family for life and all those things. Yes,
he was in a lot better spirits by then, but
having Tyler there certainly helped him. Or we've talked to
him for I don't know, probably ten minutes or so.
He used to us about the break because yeah, probably
it's not there's no legament damage and and stuff and
Tyler's just like, yeah, this is you know, I'm going
back with him, and I just I remember thinking to myself, man,

(01:09:11):
that's that's a teammate, that's a friend, that's a quality guy.
Because the season's over, you're you should be on the
charter back to Seattle, clean out your locker, and off.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
To vacation the next day.

Speaker 2 (01:09:22):
And instead this guy's like, no, I'm flying back there
with my with my.

Speaker 7 (01:09:26):
Teammate, and not even same position group, not even same section.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Of the locker room, not even closely.

Speaker 7 (01:09:31):
Right, you know, if it's DK and Tyler for instance,
that's the one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:35):
And I saw John Boyle from saux dot Com put
that out yesterday because John was I think John went
to dinner with us, we all go out to dinner together,
and I remember he said that. I'm like, God, I'm
glad to remember reminded me of that, because that was
one of those things that you just see and it's
not something you're gonna report on or talk about. It's
not sports radio fi. It's just but it showed the
quality human being Tyler Lockett is. That's one of the

(01:09:56):
reasons I thought yesterday's stuff by DK was just a
punk move just to chump, move along the way. Tyler Lockett,
Tyler Lockett deserved better from everybody, not just in the organization,
but his teammates and others too, because you know what, DK,
if that would have been you, Tyler Lockett would have
done the same damn thing.

Speaker 4 (01:10:15):
Yeah, the same damn.

Speaker 6 (01:10:16):
Thing, even if it was his agent.

Speaker 7 (01:10:18):
DK had the where like he could have said, not today,
not today.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
Not today, not today, not today. Anyway, That's who Tyler
Lockett is. I think I think that's more important than
some of the yes I know about the Mariners. Yes, yes, yes, yes,
Ron Francis, Yes, No, I think that's more important to
tell you about what a quality human being Tyler Lockett is. Okay, Well,
take a break, come back, checking with Softy.

Speaker 8 (01:10:38):
Next already, then wrapping things up, getting ready to hand
it off for an extended version of Dave, Softy Maul
and Richard L.

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Faine starting at traclock today.

Speaker 10 (01:10:56):
That's right.

Speaker 9 (01:10:56):
You know what, all those days where we have to
stay on the air past bedtime, or work on a Saturday,
or work on a Sunday. I don't know when those
days are, but when they do happen, and we'll look
back at days like today and say they were all
worth it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:09):
I think for you, sir, they're during the football season.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Yeah, twelve hour days on Saturdays. Man, sometimes they get
kind of along.

Speaker 4 (01:11:15):
But also can you get out and hit some golf
balls or anything?

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Today, I've been inside in the studios, here the outdoors weather.

Speaker 9 (01:11:23):
It's phenomenal right now. I'll be there tomorrow morning, and
I'll be there over the weekend. So yeah, no, I'm good.
So Hey, happy birthday. And to mom, by the way,
she appreciates. Very cool.

Speaker 10 (01:11:34):
And I agree with everything you guys said.

Speaker 9 (01:11:35):
When you reach that age, hell, when you reach our age,
you should just get to do whatever the hell you want.
I agree, but no judgment whatsoever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
I might pass out along to the wafe this weekend. Hey,
you know what, you know what my friend Softie says.
He says I should get anything.

Speaker 9 (01:11:49):
Or anything, if anything, do whatever, consume, whatever, partaken, whatever anything.

Speaker 4 (01:11:55):
How do you think she'll accept, especially if they say
it's coming from you.

Speaker 9 (01:11:58):
I think if you say that to her, you'll call
me or text me and say I'm coming over.

Speaker 10 (01:12:04):
Can I sleep in your basement.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
Place?

Speaker 9 (01:12:07):
I mean there might be a time, like you know,
like I'll be telling you honest with you. I'm fifty one,
almost fifty two years old this August. Right, I've never
done coke good, never done heroin, never done crack good, any.

Speaker 10 (01:12:18):
Of that stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
Aren't you the human version of both of those?

Speaker 10 (01:12:21):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:12:22):
I have those, I have the materials already naturally being
created by by my body.

Speaker 4 (01:12:27):
Yes, all those things would cause you to spant to
But if.

Speaker 9 (01:12:30):
I if I'm sitting there on my deathbed and you know,
God forbid, yeah what forty years, I don't know, thirty years,
twenty years, five years from now, whatever that is, and
I've never done it, and somebody says, hey, you want
to you want to go down the cocaine road?

Speaker 10 (01:12:42):
I say sure?

Speaker 4 (01:12:42):
Why not? Sure? Why not?

Speaker 10 (01:12:43):
What the hell?

Speaker 4 (01:12:44):
That might end it right then and there? Though it
could problem it? Could you know?

Speaker 9 (01:12:48):
If I ever get diagnosed with a you know, incurable
disease or illness or whatever, yeah, I'll be like you
ever see what was the movie not not not Brewsters
Millions with Richard Pryor, but what's the movie where the
guy's dying and goes out and just does.

Speaker 10 (01:13:05):
Whatever the hell he wants?

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
Can you help the bucket list?

Speaker 9 (01:13:08):
Yes, the bucket list with the four guys, right, Morgan
Freeman I think was in it.

Speaker 10 (01:13:12):
Nicholson was in it.

Speaker 6 (01:13:14):
I don't think was there four?

Speaker 7 (01:13:16):
Oh are you talking about like wild hogs or something
like that.

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
Who they were dying? That one, they's no country.

Speaker 10 (01:13:24):
The bucket list is Morgan Freeman and Jack Nicholson.

Speaker 6 (01:13:27):
Yes, that's the one.

Speaker 9 (01:13:28):
And they were dying, and so they just went out
and just blew their entire savings account and did whatever
the hell they felt like doing.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
Would you be the guy that you and make you
go do that? By the way, would you be.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
The guy that want to want to jump out of
a plane or do something crazy like that?

Speaker 10 (01:13:42):
I probably would do that.

Speaker 9 (01:13:44):
I was supposed to do that with my dad for
his like seventieth birthday and both of us whipped out.

Speaker 10 (01:13:48):
Didn't happen.

Speaker 9 (01:13:49):
God, we had the whole thing set up up there, moro,
they have a little airfield up there. We were going
to do it and just said no.

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
So I just I hope my kid never says, my
kids say, hey.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
What's out of a plane?

Speaker 10 (01:14:00):
You wouldn't do that?

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean it's a good plane,
Like why do you need to leave it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:06):
No, I'm good.

Speaker 10 (01:14:07):
But the experience, you know, whatever.

Speaker 9 (01:14:09):
Don't you want to be like Felix Bumgarner and do
like a fifty thousand foot drop from space?

Speaker 10 (01:14:16):
Whatever?

Speaker 2 (01:14:17):
No, no, no, no, yeah. If you want to go
have a drink on your on my seventieth birthday.

Speaker 9 (01:14:23):
About how about one of those submersibles and go visit
the Titanic.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
Well you saw how that ended.

Speaker 9 (01:14:27):
Not well, well that's one time. There's been a lot
of them that have been Okay, right, God, you're like
my wife when it comes to cruises. Oh, she will
not go on a cruise at all, my wife, she
won't do it. You know why Remember that Italian boat
that ran aground like a decade ago, Yeah, whatever that was.

Speaker 10 (01:14:45):
She's like, no, I'm out, won't do it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:49):
She's afraid of picking up some disease or getting sick
and being stuck on the boat and then the boat
capsizes and it's what alcohol.

Speaker 4 (01:14:56):
Whatever, that's what I here here is. It's March sixth,
about five years ago.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
There was a bunch of those boats were, you know,
bellied up next to up here with people couldn't get off.

Speaker 4 (01:15:04):
AT's right, little thing called cod exactly.

Speaker 9 (01:15:07):
Yeah, yeah, I would not want to be sit there
on one of those during some kind of a crises,
So I gotta get her point. But you know whatever,
But they are fun.

Speaker 4 (01:15:14):
They are funny, all right, What are you doing to.

Speaker 10 (01:15:15):
The short show today?

Speaker 9 (01:15:17):
Well, Bob Nightingale, I wrote a story yesterday about how ridiculous,
ridiculous it is that the m's aren't spending money and
got a quote from Justin Turner, which, my god, if
not for the DK Metcalf deal, yesterday would have been
Mariner bash Day. Uh, they got to reprieve until today.
So Bob's gonna join us at three point twenty. We'll
do a little fun with audio. Everett's gonna join us

(01:15:38):
from Nashville right before the pregame show starts, and then
face off at five with the Pareds and Cracking and
Your Home for Cracking Hockey ninety three three kJ rf N.

Speaker 4 (01:15:47):
Did you did you see the athletics.

Speaker 10 (01:15:49):
Story today, Diana's story?

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
No, No, the one the long form interview with Jerry Depotle.

Speaker 10 (01:15:55):
Oh no, I did not I know about it?

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
Where he uh he said, I can say hello and
people would rip my ass. That's not really true, Jerry,
people rip you because of the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
That you say, yeah he had they haven't had a
good couple days, but they can think DK for that
getting put.

Speaker 9 (01:16:11):
Yeah, well that that that comes to an end in
about five minutes from now.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Yeah. I love it.

Speaker 10 (01:16:15):
I mean

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