Furness Show 4-21: Mollywhop Monday, Breaking Kraken News and Seahawks pre-draft

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Chill Mariners. How about this? Took on the Blue Jays
over the weekend, won the series two games to one,
winning the last couple of games of the series as well.
Saturday with something else, Rowdy Teles home runs in all
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NHL didn't really have any surprises. NBA had plenty, including
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Nicks went on a twenty one ozero run to beat
the Pistons one twenty three to one to twelve. I
don't care about the thunder, and they will never get
mentioned again out of my mouth. No, that's fine. Cool
news today, great story. WIAA finally saw the light. They
approved girls flag football's varsity sport in our state. Finally,

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well done. I know the Seahawks pushed hard for that. Congratulations.
A lot of young ladies are gonna get a chance
to play a sport at the varsity level in high
school that didn't get a chance before. So that's really
a cool deal. Let's get the show started. I looked
down the standing stay because I do like to look
at that. I know people sometimes scoff at that. I
don't want to look at the standings. It's too early
to look at the standings. Oh no, not when things
are going well, It's never too early. Then Bearers are

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actually a one game behind the Rangers, who inexplicably are
still holding on to the lead in the Al West.
I say that after Seattle smacked him around last weekend.
But Seattle now at twelve and ten, two games above
five hundred eight and two in their last tens. I mean,
they're just they're cruising along. Nine and three in their
last twelve games and a positive run differential after a

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really slow start to the season. They're better now on
the road. Eight and five on the road this year.
I'm sorry, four and five on the road this year,
they're eight and five at home. They they live good
and we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna have a fun,
positive glass half full, God forbid. Molly Watt Monday coming
up at one twenty today with the boys. Wow, we're

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gonna do that at one twenty with Nathan and Chris.
So standby for that. Brought to you by Simply Seattle,
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Speaker 3 (02:46):
Man their gear, just.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
Keeping good gear.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
I should probably turn off my computer.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
My apologies.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I'm that guy. You can all be that guy. Yeah,
Basy week Seahawks are talking right now, and I say
the Seahawks, Mike McDonald and Judge Schneider, we'll bring the
highlights for you coming up in the two o'clock hour.
We're hoping Kyle Williams joins US. An NFL draft prospect
from Mawazuo wide receiver has been climbing up on the boards.
He was one of the thirty visits fork for the

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Seahawks as well, So hopefully that'll come to fruition coming
up in the two o'clock hour today. But we will
play some of Schneider and Carroll whatever is most relevant
from them coming up today. Having been to a lot
of these pre draft news conferences, I don't expect a
lot of information and or news to come out. I
don't ever remember, for example, thinking to myself after the

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draft or even during the draft. Yeah, that's exactly that
we're telling us and stuff before they are. They're not
going to play any hands in front of us. No,
but there's always stuff they might be talking about other
personnel moves and things like that. So we'll get that
coming up at two o'clock today. It is draft week. Finally,
I say finally, I'm one of those I just want
to get to the dan drafts. I mentioned this last week.
I'm the mocks and this and that. It's a great

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time filler for us in the you know, in these
last couple three months. But I'm ready for it. I'm
ready for the draft. I'm ready for for the vMac
on I'm sorry, Virginia Mason Athletics Center coming up on Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
I'm ready for all of that. I'm ready to be
out there. I think the fun part I like, And
this is why I don't like the mock drafts, because

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not just Seattle, but the unpredictability of the NFL draft
is a ton of fun. Well, and it's one little
piece that could change the entire thing. Yeah, it's we
call those things, no, one of those things the Jumanji
boards or not Jumanji, but you know what I'm talking about.
You know, I was going with dominoes, but the board,
the things, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like, yeah, one little

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thing happens and it just comes down. But that's that's
the beauty of it. Sitting there watching, Okay, who's on
the clock now the Giants are on the clock, and
this team's on the clock and that team's and then
seeing what happens and wondering if you know the guy
that you as a fan want to see Seattle Pick
is going to be there, and seeing him come out
off the board. It's very fantasy football like, to be
honest with you, in that first that first round is

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specifically second round on day two a little bit. Third
round kind of gets a little bit different because outside
of you know the rob rangs in the world, you
don't know all these guys. But that's where I think
it's a ton of fun. That's when I say I
look forward to it. I don't really look for the
first round is what it is. I look forward to
rounds two and our days two and three. Those to
me are fun and those are those are where you
really make, to be honest with you, that's that's where

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you put a team together. That's where you have success.
And when this team has had success in the past,
and when they have been great, and they were great
for a while for a little short period of time,
it's because why it's because they did their work in
those middle rounds, and they did great work in those
middle rounds. They've had better drafts lately, but it's all

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been top heavy. What I mean by that is, you
know Witherspoon, good draft pick, top heavy, JSN good draft pick,
top heavy. Right, those are the guys Murphy Jury's out on.
But when you know when the chancellors and the show.
Deherrmans and those kind of guys are getting drafted in
the middle of that's where you put your team together.
That's what's kind of fun. And we don't know. We

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won't know until next season.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
Last year we're singing the praises a Christian Haynes. He's like,
you know, we have Jim Mora junior on it. He's
telling us this guy's going to come in and start
right away. He didn't wasn't close. Maybe he'll take a
step forward this year. Hopefully he does. But all the
different stories these guys have to tell and everything else,
I look forward to it. When I say we're out

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there all the time, we are out there all the time.
We'll have our cover starting at one o'clock on Thursday, Friday,
nine am on Saturday, and on Thursday and Friday will
go until nine pm ish, depending on when the second well,
the first the first round, we'll go to no later
than nine on Friday or Thursday. I should say first round,
because the first round there's a little TV window they

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got to be done by, so we'll wrap it up
and be done around you know, thirty or nine on Thursday.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Yeah, we will get the post first round right from.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Yeah, but they the first round is is a made
for TV event and it's over a certain time, so
we'll be fine with that Thursday Friday probably at nine
or two nine or so as well, but we'll have
that coverage for the same thing. When they're done, they'll
come out and talk and we'll get to some of that,
and then Saturday is a fun I've done Saturday mornings
at the Draft since two thousand and seven, and for

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a good chunk of those that's been with Rob Rang,
and it's fun to sit with him because we'll kind
of look back at what Sale did the first two days,
and then we'll look ahead and see what they start
going through their you know, rounds four, five, six, and
seven picks and what they're doing. Rang is so good
at that. It's a ton of fun. And I always
tell people it's the time of the year. I know,
this time of the year when you're probably driving around,

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kids have games. You got a baseball game, liter league game,
softball game, track meet, lacrosse game, soccer game, something going on, right,
Maybe you got a honey do list. You're driving around, Listen,
you want to know what the local team is doing.
Just be with us starting at nine o'clock in the
morning on Saturday, and we'll be with you, and then
somebody takes over at new and then we're on un
till mid afternoon. And that's so literally the end of

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the draft.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
We will have it all and I will be there
for all of it too, just to make sure that
you know the what you do stays on the track.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
I'm glad you're going to be there because I'll tell
you right now, certain time on Saturday, I'm out of there. Anyway.
We're have fun. We'll have fun, and I think we're
also doing some stuff with Fox thirteen too, So okay,
we're gonna molly wop in a second. And I want
to get to the boys right away. I want to
get into what's going on with this baseball team cal

(08:33):
Rawley is putting together just this crazy stupid year. Power
numbers are through the roof. Plus you got a chirp
at Burials the other day, which I love. That was
kind of cool. That was fun watching that. But just
overall clutch inting, winning close games, then blowing close games
wide open an extra inning, things like that. They're they're

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they're a wild bunch. Right now, and they're starting to
get a little bit of caught contributions from not just
the big guns, but everyone up and down the lineup.
So we'll talk about that, talk about the pitching staff,
and much more. We are gonna mollywop with Chris and
Nathan coming up on I three point three KTERFM.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's Monday, then that means one thing. It's time to
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Speaker 5 (09:41):
Thank you.

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Although Nathan I did have a little bit of a like,

(10:29):
oh when Chris put his name up there. We always
put names up on I see these guys via we do.
We do a video chat so we can see each other.
Carlister Crumpler, Nathan, you remember that name from the Seahawks
way back when Algae's brother I believe, is that correct?
It might be East Carolina Pirate. I think too correct?
Am I right there?

Speaker 6 (10:48):
Algae Crumpler of the Atlanta Falcons. Carlist Crumpler of your
Seattle Seahawks. This every single week, Chris logs on and
chooses a name that wants to make sure you know
how old he is.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Week he's old and older. Yeah, that's very true, very
very true. New guy Mark was asking me, He goes, oh,
what's going to happen? It's a mollywap, but they're winning
right now, And I said, well, we are capable of
having fun on malliwap Mondays. And to be honest with you,
I think, if we're being honest, I think we'd much
rather talk about good things happening with the local baseball

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team as opposed to what we do talk about way
too often. And if if we would have been doing
a Molliwap Monday back when the team started in nineteen
seventy seven, like, we would have had a lot of
bad ones over the year, so it's kind of nice
to enjoy a good one, right, Huh. Can you imagine
malliwap Hey? Can you imagine maliawap Monday in nineteen ninety two,
We're going to fire Jim Lafever first manager, to get

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us over five hundred and bring in Bill Plumber and
probably lose a one hundred and sixteen games where they
lost that year, So that would have been a fun
ye to do mollywap.

Speaker 7 (11:48):
Guys, that was the first year I was actually in
Sorry to interrupt, Nathan, my old age doesn't allow me
to let other people talk it's that was the first
year I became a huge baseball fan, Like I was
literally obsessed with the Seattle Mariners, and I got maybe
the worst Seattle Mariner team ever. It's one of the worst.
It's certainly the most disappointing Seattle Mariner team after that

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trade for Kevin Mitchell. Like, this would be a disaster
of a segment, and nobody would give two pounds of
you know what to listen either.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So well, let's get to it. Let's get to the
opening statements after another week in which they have a
winning week, two series wins, Nathan Bishop, your thoughts.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
Well, I'm happy because they've played really well for two
straight weeks. But it's also like one of those things where, yeah,
I enjoy talking about good things about the Seattle Mariners.
I enjoy talking about them playing well and winning games,
But if they could do so in a manner that
doesn't make me look quite as stupid, I'd be really
really grateful for it, because what they're supposed to do

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is come out and pitch their lights out and win
games two to one. And they're very, very unready and
unproven third baseman who they just called up in a
rush job. Is supposed to play terribly and hit a
bunch of weak grounders to shortstop and look like he's
overmatched in the big leagues. But instead, none of that happened.
The Mayors hit the living crap out of the ball
for an entire week. Ben Williamson, after Rosey ber Barrios

(13:17):
tried to pick a fight with cal Crawley, got vengeance
by hitting the ball definitely harder than he's ever hit
it in his life. I don't think he had any
idea what to do as he was rounding the bases
there as that.

Speaker 7 (13:28):
Ball cleared the left field park.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Hey man, this is the kind of stuff this week
and to a lesser extent, last week, are the kind
of things that make me I still can't stop loving
baseball because there's so much information, so much data that
we look at, and then the dumb team comes out
and just hits like one of the best offensive teams
in baseball for a week. So I don't know, I'm
really happy, but I also look like an idiot, which

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I guess is kind of like the resting state in
which I exist, except I'm happier now, so I guess
it was a good.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
Week somewhere Dick Fan and Chuck Palace all are smiling
right now right.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
I'm so happy for those guys.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
They need to win.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Christopher Crawford, Carlister Crumpler, what are your thoughts of the week?

Speaker 7 (14:11):
It still makes me laugh here in it. Maybe it's
because I want Colton Loveland to be a Seahawk or
something like that. Good week. It was a good week
of good baseball games. Like all of those games, outside
of watching Luis Castillo's scuffle, and he wasn't great on
Sunday either. We're a lot of fun to watch, and
of course the Friday game wasn't a ton of fun.

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But watching Brian wu bounce back and give them seven
innings and that ended up being massive because you needed
that bullpen for the twelve innings showdown on Saturday. It
was just fun to watch. And watching Ben Williamson, there's
nothing cooler than watching a guy get a hit in
front of his family in baseball. There's nothing cooler seeing
all of his family just hoot and holler after he

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lined that bass hit. I hope they were there. I
don't think they were in Toronto for the homer, but
that ball was absolutely Molly Patent pending. It was a
good week of baseball. It was fun to see, and
it's fun to see two weeks in a row.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
Now.

Speaker 7 (15:06):
If you want to get frustrated, be frustrated that they
started three and seven, and because what are we talking
about if they play like this and they have a
five and five and six and four start and aren't
playing that catch up again? And of course there's lots
of baseball left to be played in all of that.
But I just really enjoyed watching all of these Mariner games,
watching the run big dumpers on, watching Julio just mash

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a couple of baseballs one hundred and ten miles per hour.
Of course, Ben Williamson, and watching Rowdy Teles like as
bad as he's been to have so much fun watching
that guy rediscover some form.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was just great.

Speaker 7 (15:41):
And if you don't enjoy that, you probably don't like
the Seattle Mariners, which is fine. But we like the
Seattle Mariners and that was fun.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Let's let's stick with rowdy Tells for a second. Home
runs in three straight games, got four in the year,
still still hitting one fifty six on base percentage of
two oh four, slugging at what four forty four as
ops is six forty eight. But that's over the whole season, right,
Is there Chris a sign more than just the three games?

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Do we think maybe there might be? We're not expecting
him to do what he's doing, keep up that same
pace he just did in Toronto Hitters Ballpark and everything else.
But is there a hope that maybe Rowdy Teles can
can fill a massive need for you in this on
this team, in that infield.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
I kind of you take a look at the metrics
and there's a lot to like. This guy ranks in
the ninety fifth percent Island average ax velocity, the ninety
six percent Tiland barrel percentage, the ninety first percent Island
hard hit percentage, and he's finding the sweet spot forty
four point eight percent of the time. That's in the

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ninety third percent tile as well. Those are all really
good numbers. And there is zero question that Rowdy Telez
had some bad luck at the beginning of the year.
There were some atom balls, then there were some nice
defensive plays on the balls that even weren't pit particularly hard.
He's also swinging and missing a lot thirty five point
two percent of the time, and he's not drawing walks,
and for Rowdy to Les be successful, he's going to

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have to draw walks. You need that speed on first base.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 8 (17:10):
You just need him not to give up outs like
he can't walk four point one percent of the time.
That's just not going to work. But I also think
that Rowdy te Lez, while he has the range of
a boost mobile cell phone that's a really old joke.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
He does do a great job of picking the baseball
and what he has done in terms of saving the
lackluster to be completely honest and nice arms in the
Seattle Mariner infield, the job he's done there has been huge. Ideally,
Rowdy Teles is not your starting first baseman, and certainly
ideally Roddy Teles isn't hitting six for a teams whose

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goal should be to compete for a World Series championship.
But that doesn't mean that Rowdy Telez can't have a purpose.
That doesn't mean I would love Rowdy te Lez to
be a guy who plays one hundred games against right
handed pitching and then when southpaws are out, it's a
very nice little weapon off of the bench. Because there's
no doubt that he has always got a chance for
hitting that long, long ball, that round tripper. So ideally

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it's not what he is now. But that doesn't mean
that Roddy Tilez can't help the Seattle Mariagers.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Pro hitter man though, Like it's a three two pitch
yesterday in that situation, and and like he knows what's
coming right, yeah, Like and that's a pro. That's a
you know, you know, a pro at bad that type
of thing. Not ever, but he sat on that thing.
He waited for it exactly, and good for him. Like
in it that we the last thing Toronto wants to
do is give up that second run. No, you're gonna
give up four more. Actually in that situation. Nayson's thoughts

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on Big the Big fell at first.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
Well, I mean, you're gonna put it back into my
wheelhouse now because I don't think Rowdy Tills is very good.
I'm really happy for the guy that he got up
off the mat here and that he's had a nice
weekend and hit some balls really hard and had some
good bab blah bluck go his way.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
But he's not a league average hitter.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Even when with hitting all of those home run three
home runs over the weekend, He's still running aligne mostly
because he's not drawn any walks and not get any
base hits. It's like, I remember, Ian, You've asked the
question before in previous shows. Are the Mariners more x
when they're at their best or are they more y
when they're at their worst? And I'm a jerk, so
I say something patronizing like, well, they're probably just what

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they've been over the entire course of the season. And
with rowdy to les, I mean, I'm just looking at
the guy's stats here. Man, he's been in the major
league since twenty eighteen, He's played in six hundred and
eighty two games. There's just nothing there that makes me
think he's particularly great.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
Again, really happy for the guy.

Speaker 6 (19:38):
I think that there's, to Chris's point, situationally, a guy
who can absolutely hit a home run in any given moment,
especially facing a right handed hitter if he wants to
be If the Mariner has had the luxury to put
him on the bench and utilize him as a bomber
off of a right handed reliever late in games, and
that was his only major role, I'd be super happy
to see that. So I guess I'm not really disagreeing

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with Chris, I'm just having a harder time being as
enthusiastic about it, just because I think it's such a
flash in the pan. But I'm I'm super happy for
the guy. I still think the position is in desperate
need of it upgrade.

Speaker 4 (20:09):
Totally agree.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Breaking News, Boys and Girls, Breaking Mariner Baseball News. Major
League Baseball now today that a Mariner has been selected
as the American League Player of the Week for April
fourteenth through twentieth. Nathan, who do you think it is?

Speaker 6 (20:30):
It's gotta be Dona Vinsilana, Right, You're wrong, close though, Christy.

Speaker 5 (20:36):
My dumper?

Speaker 2 (20:36):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (20:37):
My sweet sweet dumper?

Speaker 2 (20:38):
What do you think, Nathan, it's gotta be It's gotta
be cal Rawley. There's no It's a gold Glover though
his name is Dylan Moore. Oh, is your player of
the week in the American League six games, five stars,
hit three eighty five six runs of double, three home runs,
five RBIs, a walk, three stolen bases on base at

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a four h seven clips like seven sixty nine with
a one point one seven seven ops. First weekly award
won in his big league career. Chris Clin a stat
sheet like Lebron that's my boy. Demo is your American
League Player of the week. Chris Crawford thoughts.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
That's awesome. It's good for him. Everyone I talked to
just has unbelievably nice things to say about Dylan Moore.
And by the way, I think last week the player
of the week was Ty France.

Speaker 8 (21:26):
So Seattle Mariner fans are deserving of something nice happening
in that regard, so getting a chance to win Blair
the week.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Sure it's a very small sample, but he's claboring the
baseball right now. In fact, I never thought I would
be someone who would be upset to not see Dylan
Moore in the lineup against a right hander. I was
upset when Dylan Moore got the day off. He makes
the team better right now, and he goes through these
runs and I can't help but think. And I brought
this up on mile Y. If Dylan Moore played in

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a different ballpark for his home games, I wonder what
kind of player we'd be talking about. Because his skill
set and I've mentioned it so many times, but I'm
going to do it again, does not work for T
Mobile Park. It just doesn't.

Speaker 8 (22:06):
And not take a look at his stats last year
on the road compared to at home, it is lappable
and it is the exact same stats, like the exact
same number of opportunities, is what I meant to say there.

Speaker 7 (22:16):
It's awesome to see though. It's great to see Dylan
Moore and on the road. Dylan Moore has been a
well above average offensive player for the last year plus.
At home, it's been pretty ugly, but he's on the
road right now and he's taking advantage of the opportunity,
and it's awesome to see.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
Nape I was talking to I had a similar conversation
with some friends about dmo and we were kind of thinking,
if Dylan Moore were a Red, could he be a
thirty thirty guy, Like, Yeah, I don't know, man, He's
got legitimate pop and he's been a great bas runner
for years now, whenever he does get on base. Look,
my whole thing with Demo for years has been is

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he a great player?

Speaker 2 (22:53):
No?

Speaker 7 (22:54):
Is he deeply flawed?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (22:55):
Are the things that he's good at in baseball kind
of unique to the Mariners ross and also things that
tend to be overlooked by average baseball fans. Also, Yes,
positional utility, great gold Glover, we can say with a
nice smile on our face and be very happy for him,
because Rafael Palmero also won a Gold Glove for playing
DH so that's a very auspicious award. But I think

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that it's just really, really really cool to see the
guy get some shine because I think he's been an
underrated player in Seattle while he's been here, and part
of that, to Chris's point, is he is an awful
fit for t Mobile Park. But I also think the
next time you're at a game and Demo's playing, just
keep an eye on what he does. He's probably gonna
draw a walk, maybe two. He's probably going to steal
a base, and he's probably gonna quit himself at whatever

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position he ends up playing that day pretty well. And
I think he's it's cool to see him get this
kind of moment because go a player like Dylan Moore
winning a Gold Glove, winning an Ale Player of the
Week award, those tend to be like career highlights for guys.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
So it's awesome to see him get these moments in
the sun.

Speaker 7 (23:56):
The only thing I want to say about Dylan Moore
is stop wearing the tank top. It's making me look bad,
like it's just ridiculous to see that guy's traps and
then look at my body.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
We have more breaking Hey, we have more breaking news.
Oh good, you're ready for this more breaking news. Dam
Miles out as the head coach of the Seattle Cracking.

Speaker 7 (24:16):
Whoa, Nathan, you can go ahead and log off, you know,
and I got a stock.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
I'm gonna get on my phone.

Speaker 6 (24:23):
You guys do your thing.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
No, no, no, yeah, how about that? We have break
double breaking news for the first time in the middle
of a mulliwop went Monday. Huh wow.

Speaker 6 (24:32):
You can only be like the Seattle Marriers for so
many years before you finally get canned.

Speaker 7 (24:37):
Gonnas two and two years. By the way, Leviolet, go
get him right now.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
They'll they'll be paying three head coaches next year. We'll
get to that in the Daily power play coming up
at one, and maybe we'll keep Chris on for that. Actually,
be kind of fun because you're writing a little stuff
for Emerald City Specrum. I'm not mistaken, so absolutely, okay,
be happy to let's let's get to By the way,
big Dumper was a good guess because if you're looking
at who probably finished second in the voting four America
Player of the Week a big dumper in the last

(25:03):
seven days, played in six games, had thirty one played appearances,
only had four home runs and seven RBIs, only had
a three five on base percentage seven to forty one,
slugging in a one point zero nine to six ops
during the last seven days, So it very well could

(25:23):
have been big Dumper if not for the fact his
teammate was that much better. So Nathan the Mariners an
offensive juggernaut.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Who knew you know.

Speaker 6 (25:32):
I think this is just a testament to Edgar Martinez,
just like telling the guys, you know, when you get
a pitch to hit, you just go out and you
hit it, and the guys you're like, oh great, I
don't have to worry about swing path or exit velocity
or all this other nonsense, Like hitting is just such
a reactive thing. And maybe there's a new message that's
triggering there. But look, the cool thing to see is
it's been so long as a Mariner fan where I

(25:52):
feel like they've had two, three, four guys all clicking
at the exact same time, and that's what it felt
like it was this week.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
I just checked.

Speaker 6 (26:00):
Svender has had five hitters with a w rcplus of
one fifty or higher last week. That is some line
up length that they had last week.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
So it's great to see.

Speaker 6 (26:10):
What we need to see though, is have this transition
even a little bit to their home games. They have
now proven that they can score runs on the road
and in run neutral environment or offensive friendly parks.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
We need to see something like that at T Mobile Park.

Speaker 6 (26:23):
But for now, hey, I just need to add it's
also great that cal Rawley was able to put up
all those stats that you just mentioned while existing solely
in the head of the Toronto Blue Jays and their fans,
because that guy is so up in their business. They
cannot even they can't they can't handle what big numbers
bring in. And I think it's beautiful to see. So
it's just super fun to have a different kind of

(26:45):
baseball to watch. Felt like I was watching nineteen ninety
eight again, both good and bad.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
It was it was a who Christ is sustainable.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Kind of kind of. I think this is going to
be a pretty good offense on the road. And by
the way, I just have to toot my own horn
a little bit because when we first started molliwat Monday,
I got asked a lot of questions about cal Rawley
and whether or not he was a starting catcher, and
I said, absolutely that cal Rawley is a starting catcher.
And I didn't think he would be this good, but

(27:15):
I knew he was gonna be a starting catcher and
he's that. And then some do you know how many
people are barreling the baseball more than cal Raley right now?
The answer is none. Twenty seven point six percent of
the time, So over one fourth of the time that
dude is making contact, he's barreling the baseball. And sure
torpedo baton. By the way, I just got the simply
Seattle Torpedo shirt. I cannot wait to wear that. I'll

(27:35):
wear that on the next mollywat Monday for sure. Like
that's a special baseball player and the type of guy.
And I posted this on Blue Sky He's gonna win
an MVP someday. Cal Raly is going to be an
MVP sud.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Day a catcher not named Gary Carter and man Johnny
Bench what.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
Yeah, it's gonna happen. It's gonna happen because people appreciate
his defense so much. And even when we have the
automatic ball system and I cannot wait for that. The
umpiring all week, which just hot garbage. He's still so
good behind the plate that he's going to be appreciated
enough to win an MVP someday. I'm predicting that right now,

(28:15):
and I will just forget about it if it never happens.
But he's a special offensive player. And the Mariners have
two legitimate MVP candidate talents on their roster, and they
have four pitchers who would pitch at the top of
the rotation. I get frustrated with this organization as much
as anybody else, but you better bet your sweet Bippy
that I do appreciate that. I do appreciate that there
is actual star talent in the Seattle Mariner system, in

(28:39):
the farm system, of course, but actually on the MLB roster,
and Big Dumper is at or near the top of that.

Speaker 4 (28:45):
And it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (28:46):
Well it's uh, I mean, and we're not even have
time to get to a rose arena, but I mean,
he's looks so good. He's got one of the weirdest
stat lines ever. And this is probably where you just
don't look at stats right in the sense of don't
look at a batting average for him, Uh, don't look
at his on base percentage even his slugging. Just just
look at the fact that when he comes up and
there's a runner in scoring position, I don't even know

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if he's got a good numbers are Chris.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
It just it just feels like this guy just makes plays.
Like he just makes plays, He just gets it done.
He just like one of the biggest plays from that
game on Sunday. I know they scored six runs, but
Big Dumber failed with the bases loaded in two outs
and you're thinking, uh, you score three in the first inning,
Castillo doesn't look good. What's gonna happen here? No, he
pokes a two run single and that breaks open the floodgates.

(29:31):
Randio Rose Arena is one of the best traits that
Jerry Depotto made. Even if the guys he gives up
being ended up being quality major leaguers, and we'll see,
the ability to get Randio Rose Arena without giving up
your very best prospects is one of the best moves
to putto has made by far.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
I love watching that guy play baseball.

Speaker 6 (29:47):
If if anybody's not familiar, go check go just go,
like do some research on what Randy's journey was like
to get to America to play Major League Baseball, and
then that guy went through to get here. And that's
what I love thinking about when I watch him play
baseball in close and late situations, because you can tell
there is nothing that the game of baseball on Major
League Baseball can give Randy a Rosarina. It's more intense

(30:09):
of what he's already gone through in life. And that
guy is cool as a cucumber. When he's out there
in a close and late situation. It's super fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
All right, let me wrap things up because I gotta
go deal with this other thing. Let's tell us tell
people where you can find light Bat and all your
fun work.

Speaker 6 (30:23):
Nate, Sure, yeah, check it out at the lightbat dot
substack dot com. It's a twice weekly newsletter and then
a semi biweekly podcast and it's all one hundred percent free.
You can support financially if you want, but you do
not have to. Thank you very much.

Speaker 7 (30:39):
Christopher Crawford mile Y on YouTube, NBC Sports Road a World.
And then also please check out Emerald City Spectrum, the
very best in local sports writing right now. I don't
think that's even tiny bit hyperbolic anders is even good?

Speaker 4 (30:55):
And who knew that was going to happen?

Speaker 2 (30:57):
Who knew?

Speaker 4 (30:58):
Who knew?

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Yeah? All right, go check out the guys work. They
do a great job. I think next week, are we
having another fun week? Yes?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
I think so.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
I think so, Wow Miami. If it's not a good
weekend against Miami, we will be back on the yellie.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
I want to see them win some normal baseball games.
They haven't won any normal baseball games. They're gonna give
me a art.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Just win it, like, just win a game six to
three and be done with it and move on. Shut out. Yeah,
not to go to extra.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah, just actually Sunday yesterday was a great example.
More like yesterday would be perfectly fine.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
That would be fun. All right, guys, thanks, I'll let
you go. That's Nathan, that's Chris Big. Thanks to simply
say how simply Seattle dot com. That is the website
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(31:59):
right now, An Bilesma out as the head coach of
the Seattle Kraken. Crazy uh, and we'll get to that
coming up next.

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Kracking ninety three point three kjr FM. We've got breaking news.
If you're just joining us just a moment ago. Uh,
let's we'll get it out there for you right now.
Elliott Friedman from Sportsnet the first to report that Dan
Bilesma is out as the head coach of the Seattle Kraken.

(32:58):
No word on the rest of the staff, which of
course would include the first female coach in the history
of the NHL, Jessica Campbell. But I can tell you
that it is indeed true that Dan Bilesman is out
as a head coach of the Seattle Craken. So that
is a done deal. I can confirm that for you.
The story that first broke courtesy of Elliott Friedman for

(33:21):
Sportsnet what does this mean? First and foremost, five years
into the organization, they're going to have had three head coaches,
none of whom were Introm Dave Hackstall for the first
three years, one year, year four of Dan Bilesman, and
whoever takes over for year five, and what have you.

(33:43):
There's a couple of ways to look at it. One
we heard ed Zoe on Friday tell us a the
old Czech.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
That.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Let me get past that for a second. What Eddie
said on Friday. He's right, this was this team was
better talent wise than it showed on the ice. That's
the reality that there's there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
Losing Jordan everly for an extended period of time, losing
Vin's done for an extended period of time, Joey getting
banged up, hurt. It's not Damn Bilesma's fault necessarily that
Philip Grubauer couldn't stop a beach ball from center ice
when he was in there for a few weeks. When
Joey was banged up, they had seventeen of a possible

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fifty seven or fifty four, doesn't matter, it's over fifty,
but seventeen possible points and Philip Grubauer starts this year.
That's that's just your non competitive in those games. Is
that Bilesma's fault? I don't know. Here's where I would
look at with BILESMNT. This is did you find that

(34:58):
sound on from.

Speaker 9 (35:00):
Eddie Ulchik who joined us last week and we were
talking about the talent on the rous.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
Let me get to that in a second. Okay, The
number I would look at if I'm going to say,
what was the coaching staff, not just Dan Biles, but
the staff Owen twelve. In the second game of back
to back games, they left twenty four points on the
table and they missed the They missed the playoffs by

(35:24):
twenty points. Even if you get half of those points,
because at the end of the season, you're kind of
falling apart. And ninety six was a big number. That's
the ninety six points got in this year with the
second wildcard, and that would be the say Lewis Blues.
That's a big number. Usually ninety two ninety three can
get you in. But Owen twelve and back to backs.
Something wasn't working there. The power play for the most

(35:45):
part this season wasn't working, and at the end of
the day. This ownership group, guys, they have no patience
for mediocrity. They want to win, they want to win now,
and if they feel like something's not working, they don't
care about pain. In this case, three coaches starting next
season because they'll be paying for two. Hack will be

(36:05):
the second year of his extension. He never got a
fulfill and bilesma, I'm sure insign a one year contract
and the old check with us on Friday talking about
the team.

Speaker 5 (36:15):
For people to say that the roster wasn't good enough,
I would vect to differ one hundred times over. I mean,
it's just think about when, like to go back before
the trade deadline and when Ronnie's handlers forced you had
Chandler Stevenson, Matty Vanier's Yanni Gord and Shane Wright as

(36:36):
your fourth son Risler. Now what again, going into the season,
you didn't know what was going to happen with Shane
and Sin had a tremendous year first first year in
the national hockey because let's just call it what it was.
So you'll get some potholes in the in the during
the season, for sure, but you know, for me, when
you look at the back end, I mean you've got
gun and Larsen, You've got you know, you got Montor

(36:56):
and Morgan was you know, was there at a particular time.
You have Alexi At, you have Ryker Evags, Josh mererra
had a I mean I talked about him a lot
towards the end of the season. Maybe I should have
done a better job earlier, but you know, for a
role player, he came in into the hell of a
jobby on the back end. So I like, I looked
at it, at the team and look at there's some
guys that had you know, had sub part season. Now

(37:17):
the question is you got to figure out, well, A
is an upper management team. You have to figure out
is why they weren't closer to the playoffs. And B
is look at the players and go, okay, well are
these players are are what we thought? I mean, Montorn
Stevenson pretty good seasons. I mean I think you know,

(37:38):
with the way that they played and performed, and you
know there are only two players. So for me, that
would be the one thing is like I said, I
couldn't buy this. I think the team that was rostered
was good enough to compete. When I look at teams
that were battling to the end. Like I look at
the Calgary Flames and I look at teams that were
on the on the so called bubble. I looked at Vancouver,

(37:58):
you know, I looked at the teams that made it.
Saint Lewis in Minnesota. Well, I look at the rosters
and go, okay. Maybe the difference might be is maybe
you don't have like, look, you need stars. You need
superstars to win a Stanley Cup. Do the krack and
have any superstars? Right now? The jury's out, so the
question is probably right now the answer is null.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
All right again, Dan Biles out as the head coach
of the Seattle Kraken. There's some other rumors out there
that are going out and about that Jason Botterroll is
gonna be moved up to the GM role and Ron
Francis moved up to upper management role and kind of
change some roles there. That's very Mariners, like with Topoto
and Justin Hollander if that is the case. But we'll

(38:42):
wait and see. They have news conferences set for tomorrow
which we will be there for so and we'll be out.
I'll be out of the thirty two bar and grill
out there tomorrow and chase the stuff down along with
the captain Mike Benton. So, yeah, what's going on, Dan
biles out, head coach of the Seattle Kraken. We're gonna
hear from John Schneider and Mike McDonald when we come back.
We'll get more into this. Four nine four to five

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word to the rest of the coaching staff, but biles out.
News conferences schedule for tomorrow at k c I. More

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breaking news on a better front. Dylan Moore, named the
American League Player of the Week, had a massive week,
probably edged out his own teammate Cal Rawley for that award.
What was all said and done? Ms are off today,
took two or three from the Taranta Blue Jays over
the weekend. Head to Boston next with the day off
today again twelve and ten on the season now had
a one game behind first place Texas and the American

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Speaker 2 (40:40):
Oh Man wild Day, Crazy Day Day.

Speaker 3 (40:45):
Who knew?

Speaker 2 (40:47):
This is not a news dump Briday? Here we are, Yeah,
here we are just mining our own business, waiting for
you know, waiting for the draft coming up on Thursday,
doing a little mall. Didn't even have time to go
deep into molliwop today because cracking news breaks all kinds,
all hell's breaking loose along the way. Let's let's do this.

(41:09):
I do want to do this. The the Seahawks and
the draft start coming up. Our Seahawks draft is Thursday.
NFL Draft starting on Thursday. John Schneider and Mike McDonald.
I still want to say Pete Carroll every time I
say John, John and Peach John and p right Mike. Yeah,
I want to say that so bad, but I can't.
But as John and Mike McDonald had a pre draft

(41:32):
news conference a short time ago, as we get ready
for the draft on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, remember round
one on Thursday, rounds two and three on Friday, and
four through seven coming up on Saturday. And we will
be there for all of it here on ninety three
point three kJ RFM. Of course, uh, because we're up there,

(41:52):
We're gonna be on till nine o'clock most every night.
And we should mention the Hawks do have a lot
of picks, a lot of picks early in this draft.
But let's hear from they have from the general manager,
John Schneider and the head coach, Mike McDonald's.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Big thank yous to Mike and his staff with all
the work preparation, obviously, the scouts, all the hard work
they put in being away from their families in the spring,
in the fall, and out here for the last two weeks,
three weeks, Sam Ramsay, David Strickland, all the docs, Uh,

(42:27):
just everybody involved in the process. It's been a it's
been a great progress process this year. And yeah, I
just really really thankful and grateful to uh be geting
ready for our our sixteenth drafter flairwly John, we asked.

Speaker 10 (42:48):
You about this, you know, before them at the combine,
all through the process, but just having Mike and the
coaching staff more involved than they were able to be
last year. Now you've been through all this is what
was that like working with them.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
It's been on standing, you know, being able to having
the the uh majority of the offensive staff. You know,
our new staff haven't been through the process several times
at different you know, different buildings and organizations has helped
as well, but I think every just has a better
feel for each other naturally. Uh, you know your value.
You you're Mike and are constantly like evaluating the evaluators, right,

(43:21):
So that's you know, that's coaches, it's it's scouts, it's doctors, trainers,
it's everybody, And it's just a much stronger comfort level.

Speaker 10 (43:31):
Like for you, just same kind of thing. Just now
that you've gotten all of this experience doing this with John,
what's it been like for you?

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 11 (43:38):
I think you just you have a really really strong
feel for the cadence about what happens and when and
what those conversations are like. But just like John said,
I mean, it's just it's year two understanding of just
understanding our process and how we do it.

Speaker 4 (43:54):
Just it really helps.

Speaker 5 (43:58):
How do you.

Speaker 12 (43:58):
Avoid all the information you have a bail to you
overthinking as you get closer to the draft and what
are the points that change your opinion the most about
a player in the process?

Speaker 4 (44:07):
Did you did you see that? Were you're here yesterday?
You see the draft board yesterday? Yeah, it's funny you
say that. It's a great question. Uh, it's really just
we're we're just kind of wrapping up everybody's opinions and
you know, we'll get to a spot where you know, Mike,
I just can walk through every scenario, and so we're
not in a position to overthink things, especially once we

(44:28):
get to the weekend. We want to be able to
have it look like we wanted to look you know,
and and uh, you know our kind of guys and
and uh just just be able to maneuver and and
uh pick good players for this this talented staff, and that.

Speaker 12 (44:45):
At the leading meetings you had mentioned that the compensation
for trading back and in the back of the first
round has kind of changed in recent years.

Speaker 4 (44:52):
Is so yeah, I mean there's just a lot of
there's tons of different We used to just a lot
of people, uh used to use Jimmy Johnson's you know,
great scale right the point system. Now that like the
advent of analytics, there's like more and more, you know,
like you have salary caps, you have salary cap numbers,
you have always you have a lot of people that
just have different systems. So what we're doing over the

(45:14):
next two days is really having our guys, you know,
make sure they're contacting the other teams, the teams that
they're responsible for in terms of trades and uh, and
making sure that we're if you know, we're in the
same vicinity because everybody every seems to be using different
yet different grading or trading scale system points systems, and yeah,

(45:36):
and so you know, you want to be able to
move in a very fast manner. And uh so we
want to get get all that kind of laid out
ahead of time. You don't want to be you don't
want to be like in the moment and having like
to be negotiating a ton There's a certain level of
negotiation that goes on there, but you don't want it
to be, you know, taking up more than the decision

(45:58):
making process, more time than the decision making props.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
Analytics traded as analytics adjusted. How your chart has maybe.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
Changed over the year, Yeah, yep, yep, we've switched it
a little bit.

Speaker 12 (46:08):
Yeah, you never traded up in the first round, but
you've traded multple times.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
On day two.

Speaker 3 (46:13):
Is there a reason for that?

Speaker 4 (46:16):
No, just this hasn't happened. Yeah, the fact there.

Speaker 12 (46:24):
Haven't been any trades in the first round yet among
the first round picks.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah. I was just talking to a gentleman this morning
about that that from another team. It sounded like last
week people were going to be active and then nothing's
really happened. So we're just trying to stay in contact
with everybody. I don't know, it's hard to tell. I
don't know if that's just because of what the top
of the top of the first round looks like. I

(46:49):
don't I don't know, Mike.

Speaker 12 (46:53):
There's all sorts of hybrid players, and there's something in
this draft that play off ball linebacker and also play
It seems like a potentially challenging combination and like they're
down when you take a linebacker off or how do
you kind of think about the new hybrid players.

Speaker 11 (47:11):
Well, they're really exciting, I think, especially in this year,
it's you know, you're evaluating these guys. You try to
have a vision for what their role would be immediately
and then what it would grow to. But it felt
really clear, you know, from our coaches, from how I
saw it, and you know there's several guys like that
you mentioned.

Speaker 4 (47:31):
That are in the draft that are will be really exciting.

Speaker 13 (47:34):
John, you mentioned to us at the combine that you've
made your biggest mistakes when you've pushed a guy up
the board for need. When does need actually come into play?
When when does need it later rounds that when you
actually form your draft board, when does need.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
Come in, it ends up it ends up pretty pretty
much being all the way through. But really, you know,
your need ends up being part of our grading system too.
You know, it's part of we're comparing UH prospects to
our players. Not necessarily, it's just the way we do it,
not necessarily the rest of the rest of the National

(48:09):
Football League. What does our team look like? And so, yeah,
what I was talking about the combine is, you know,
sometimes you just you're you think you're just you know,
filling a hole, and you're you're you're jumping that player
ahead of more talented players. Back to the trade value
things getting I'm not going to give your trade values
you want to, I'm not gonna text it to you.

Speaker 12 (48:31):
Yeah, So has there been Is there a big discrepancy
in how teams view or how teams value future picks.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
No, everybody's pretty much on the same page there. Yeah,
you're looking one up every year, so that's kind of
how everybody's. Everybody's viewed that. Now, some people try to
put that into a point system and we we don't.

Speaker 14 (48:50):
John, what do you think of where your roster is
right now, after the moves you've made this offseason, bringing
to your lock back just some of the recent little
ads around the edge of since last time we talked
to him. Where you guys are sitting here before the drive.

Speaker 4 (49:02):
Yeah, we like it like we're at Yeah, I think
we can just we can just go pick darn good
football players. You know, we're excited to have you know,
four of those quarterbacks. We have three quarterbacks that have
you know, thrown for over three thousand yards in the season,
and all of them can move.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
You know.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
It's that's a pretty cool group. Getting Drew back here.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Jew.

Speaker 4 (49:24):
Jew's very well respected in the building and uh so,
it's just it's great. It's great to get in back
here into the mix. He had other opportunities, and we
just stayed in touch with his agent and I wanted
to be able to we spend time with him in Florida.
Someone could get to know him a little bit when
we were down there. And he's just a great, great person,
great competitor. Auted this this building.

Speaker 12 (49:43):
The roster weird is like you said, right now, how
exciting is it to have the five picks in the
first time? Q To even add to that whether his
positions need or death of spots.

Speaker 4 (49:52):
That's exciting. I mean, we're yeah, we were in there
yesterday afternoon staring at it for a while. It's it's
it's fun. There's a lot of there's a lot of
room for activity. It's a movie line. Yeah, there's just
there's there just provides us with with more opportunities to
either just stay and pick good players or or maneuver around.

Speaker 11 (50:15):
Did you learn about Drew when you got to spend
some time, Well, I think it's exactly what John said.
It's just an any time opportunity to spend time with
the guys outside of like the football setting. It's a
great opportunity to connect with him and just spend time
with him and just just a great, great guy. You
can tell he's just he fits in great with the

(50:35):
locker room and the leadership qualities he brings, and you know,
for him, it's probably not easy to be in those
settings with like with with the guy you know, with
me and having not met him and just be able
to move and shake and have a good time and
talk about things outside of football.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
So it was it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
We stayed in contact too, and just a big fan
of Drew Skiel sets and trades and all that aside,
Where do you guys feel like your roster is at
and terms of having like a locker room full of
players with the right edge that you want, like the
personality types.

Speaker 11 (51:06):
I mean, this is an interesting timing for me and
our I as a coach because normally you're about a
week or two into the process as the drafts Draft
week comes up.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
So it's I'm.

Speaker 11 (51:20):
Excited to start our process as a team to see
kind of see how everything's going to kind of come
into focus over the next you know, eight to ten
weeks and into camp. But I'm really excited about our
guys and it's just just today a lot of the
guys are starting to trickle in. You know, we start
officially tomorrow, so seeing guys who haven't seen in a
good bit and just like they're excitement for the off
season program and just feels like spirits are really high,

(51:43):
enthusiasms high, and we got a lot of work to do.
But I feel like the guys mentals in the right
spot and we got a great opportunity in front of us.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
John Leonard that keeps.

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Coming up in terms of me is offensive Live.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
This team has been the graded blow by you know, evaluators, analytics,
sites and stuff in terms of that position group. Do
you think there's validity to that?

Speaker 4 (52:05):
Is that I took your hands to it. Are you
gonna pick where you're gonna go? What is there so.

Speaker 7 (52:09):
Validity to that?

Speaker 4 (52:11):
I think it's an area of need. Yeah. Absolutely, I
think We've been been very well documented throughout the spring.
But you know, it's also a little bit of a
lazy narrative because every team is looking for offensive linemen.
We're trying to create guys every single year. We're trying
to end up finding It. Used to be when I

(52:36):
started in the league with Ron Wolf, it was like
a free agent had had to have three redeeming qualities. Okay, well, now,
especially with offensive linemen, you know, you have guys maybe
in the fourth round that I have two redeeming qualities
tall and long, strong and quick or whatever. I mean.
It's just it's just happened. It's not it's not anything
that anybody in football is happy about, to be honest

(52:57):
with you, It's just it's an area that hasn't been
uh developed as well as as the other side of
the ball. For one, reason or another, And it's really
I think it just fundamentally comes down to like, uh,
you know, if you're gonna be playing football at a
young age, you want to you want to go sack
a quarterback and do your sack dance? Or do you
want to go block for a running back or a quarterback?

(53:21):
I mean, I think it comes down to that.

Speaker 12 (53:24):
Talked about how that position there's there's kind of a
dearth of talent there and you maybe have to adjust
your draft board and push guys up farther than maybe
their grade would would justify. So are there other positions
you've seen like that have to quarterback? Seems like maybe
one is this a unique situation or there other times
you've seen this happen.

Speaker 4 (53:41):
No, it's just quarterback, quarterback, and offensive lineman. And that's
just you know, the the position too. They don't you know, Mike,
Mike's been there, but they don't. They to spend much
time with these guys in college anymore. You know, you
just used to be able to go to a practice
and spend you know, the first you know, twenty five
minutes watching an individual per and now it's like you

(54:02):
go there and there it feels like They're just guys
are out there is running plays. So you know, things
were much better when we had NFL Europe. We were
able to put guys in there and have you know,
have coaches, experienced coaches training these guys away from the
building and getting those those extremely important reps again, same

(54:24):
thing with the quarterback position.

Speaker 14 (54:26):
I know your ability to talk to guys is a
little bit limited right now this time of year and everything,
but pretty big change over on the roster with no
Geno and DK Tyler all moving on different places and such.
What's been the kind of the feedback you guys have
got about just where you guys are heading directionally the
shift and having so many guys that have been a
big part of this team not be here in the

(54:47):
shift that that's made for you guys so far.

Speaker 11 (54:50):
Well, I think I kind of answered that the last
time is there's a lot of enthusiasm. Our guys are
really excited. I'm going off with the conversations I've had
with the as on our roster, and it's not to
make a comment about the guys that weren't here and
the guys that are here. It's just there's a lot
of respect for the guys that are on our football team,
and a lot of prior relationships too that have kind

(55:11):
of come back into the into the end of the mold,
and so guys are excited about kind of renewing that
relationship that they've had with those guys and and being
in this setting here, you know, at the vMac every day.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
So I'm really I'm really encouraged. I'm really excited.

Speaker 11 (55:25):
And uh, you know, this time tomorrow we'll be finishing
up our first day and then we'll go do a
day two and do that for the next ten weeks.

Speaker 4 (55:34):
It'll be a lot of fun.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Mike, what is the Acquire and Drew meaning for Sam Powell? Well,
it means that those guys are going to be competing.
So both guys know that.

Speaker 11 (55:44):
And Jared's part of the mix too, He's gonna be
competing with those guys. But anytime you're adding competition to
a room and the side of the ball and a
football team, it's good forced especially when they're great players
and great guys, and it's gonna be fun to see
how it shakes out.

Speaker 10 (55:57):
Nice when you spend time with a draft prospect, whether
it's like a thirty visit or combine or whatever.

Speaker 2 (56:03):
What stands out to you is like, this is my
kind of player?

Speaker 4 (56:05):
Is it like a football knowledge things, an attitude?

Speaker 11 (56:07):
What gets your well, I think from my perspective, I
think it's kind of irresponsible to say, like I can
I can get this guy figured out in twenty minutes
or an hour or a day. It's just you got
to go with this perspective of there's not like one
singular thing uh that was red flag, like can't touch
this guy? You know, It's just it's just I don't know,
it's just feel like that's a little overconfident in the process.

(56:30):
So or my role is in my opinion is it's
another data point to augment like what all the scouts
have done, what the rest of the work that our
coach has been doing with all their interviews, and I
just want to I want to just have an opportunity
to connect with that person. It's for that, you know,
time that they were at that opportunity. And really excited
about the guys that I've met and been able to

(56:51):
connect with over this process. There's a lot of great guy,
great human beings in this draft that have awesome stories
and and it gets you excited about the opportunity to
coach some of these guys, so when they're in the building,
you get a better feel for who they are and
kind of what have what has got them to this point.

Speaker 12 (57:07):
Leading the off season program last year the first time
you can kind of.

Speaker 6 (57:10):
Take care of this year.

Speaker 11 (57:14):
I think we have a very clear vision about what
we're trying to create and what it takes to get
to that point. And uh, it's not just me, you know,
sitting there saying this, you know, it's it's everybody, I think,
all the coaches. We have a we have a great
alignment and how we want to go about our business.
And again, we've done it before, you know, together and
we've gone of gone through that feedback loop already and

(57:35):
our you know, just talking to one of our players
about an hour ago, and he knows who he's talking
we're talking about, but like they know, they know that
there's a reason behind what we're doing and why and
what we're trying to chase. And it's not that some
big secret on you know, what day and day out
looks like. And we can get that message spread across
the guys so we can hit the ground running.

Speaker 12 (57:54):
You guys both talked about adding the right guys into
the room, not just the right you know guys on
the field. Ken Chasher talked about and you need to
get to a dark place to play the way he
played on the field. How do you guys balance like
good humans and also finding guys that are gonna be
dogs on the field.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Yeah, I'll take that one.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Like it.

Speaker 11 (58:11):
Yeah, I mean you go rattle off the guys on
our roster that are I mean, Leonard Williams, Jaron Reid,
ken Walker like just I can rattle off a ton
of guys on our football team that are great human
beings here in the community with their families, Guys that
you know you want to emulate and are our leaders

(58:32):
for us, but on the field are not to be
messed with.

Speaker 4 (58:35):
And those are the types of guys we're looking for.

Speaker 13 (58:37):
Back to quarterbacks, Are you guys cool with having three
on the roster because of the experience you have right there?

Speaker 4 (58:43):
Yeah, to approach a quarterback, no, I'll talk about the
other day. It's just it's it's hard excuse me to
maneuver around with quarterbacks to get to a call it
like a safe, safe place. You know, you feel like
you're in an ideal world of acquiring quarterbacks. It's just

(59:05):
I've talked about it before and if we've going drafted too,
it's just, you know, it's a Brian's point. You gotta
be careful, like how far you push those guys. So,
but no, it does not the report that you guys
never seen emquiries about Sam how potential trade? Is that accurate? Yeah,
that's accurate. And uh, we have a great relationship with Bruce,

(59:28):
his agent, and Bruce is very well known and respected
throughout the National Football League, so he has a ton
of contacts as well. So it's a very open dialogue.

Speaker 2 (59:38):
That would be something you can building to move and how.

Speaker 4 (59:42):
Uh, I don't know. We're not there yet.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Way to press of Ale. That's a good question and
even a better answer after that. Yeah, he's open to it,
but I'm not open to it. I mean Sam Hell
could certainly be I mean that's one of the things
that can happen to our three days of draft cup.
Just Sam Hell could get traded and you know that
would probably net you a mid day three pick. But
you know, I can see that happening. I still think

(01:00:09):
it tells you as much. When they resigned Drew Lock
and all the stuff at the start of that news
conference when they're talking about, you know, the culture and
how he fits and how well respected he is. It's
a lot of stuff I heard about Geno Smith, by
the way, I just heard about Drew Lock. But I
think it says enough as much as anything else about
the fact they don't like the quarterback class. They don't
like the quarterback class. I don't think a lot of

(01:00:29):
people do. And the problem is is that it's two
guys that would not have been first rounders even this
year given the seasons they had last year. Maybe Cam
sneaks in should or for sure not if they were
going against the six guys that got picked in the
first round last year. So just a different quarterback class.
All right, good stuff there once again. For I'm looking
at the text on a ton of texts already about

(01:00:51):
the Krakens move today. If you just did earlier, Dan
Biles out as the head coach of the Seattle Kraken
after just one season. It has been confirmed by the
team as well, so that is a done deal. One
o'clock news conference will be out of the thirty two
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Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
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Speaker 3 (01:01:46):
Just looking for the best burger joints. Yeah, this manor
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Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
Camerlo is playing great hot blockers, play great.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Julio Tuck.

Speaker 7 (01:01:51):
I'm gonna keep paying at Julio Suck. Who is at
the supertarme Seattle? Now come still bet on Easter? Have
I got a pick for you? Take your kids Easter
eggs and fill them all with Jerry Depoto quotes, Hide
the eggs.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
And think me later day. You know the best thing
about the MJ and the Midday uh voice text? Is it?
MG in the Midday actually likes him. I love that
because he's got it down though the high like one
thousand miles an hour, like just throttle down and then
and then just shut it down right now. He definitely

(01:02:29):
has a cadence that I'm not accustomed to, and I
like it. It's MJ in the mid Day's ten to
one right here, and I think one three k RFM,
all right, let's get to and we've got text four nine,
four to five one. A lot of them haven't had
this many kracking texts in a while. I'm gonna read them,
and I'm gonna very interesting US two six good news

(01:02:50):
about the crack and low energy, uninspiring coach. Move on
three six. So I don't pretend to be a hockey savamp,
but they kept taxed all for three years. Now dump
a clearly better coach after one. I don't get it, man,
that's unbelievable crack and fired the coach again to fire
the general manager instead.

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
He's been reassigned.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
We'll get to that a second, four too.

Speaker 9 (01:03:12):
Five.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
He's not putting the players out there, give me a break.
Season tickets done oh, don't give up four towo five.
This is what I want to comment on forty five.
Who's coming here as a coach if you don't give
them a chance? All right, let's go. I got a
bunch more cracking ones. I'll get to in a second.
Let's just I want to jump off on that one

(01:03:33):
just for a second, because I think that's a good point.
I was talking to Purple Sheet about that exact thing
a minute ago. The I think there's a lot of
layers to Dan Bielesma and his staff being put together
last summer and being hired. I can tell without getting
into the nitty gritty and the dirty, they needed to

(01:03:56):
make a change and move on from Dave Hackstall for
a lot of different reasons, a lot of reasons. So
they made that decision to move on from Dave Hackstall.
But the hiring of Dan Bilesman felt like a collective
group effort. I'm not sure, even though Ron told us
on TV on our Crack and Hockey Network broak up, Yeah,

(01:04:19):
he's my hirer when he kind of did the damage
control when Lawiki was on the road trip, I was like,
what's going on? They fired a coach? Why is Lowiki
on the road trip. I think there's a lot of
layers of the biles my hiring. He had done a
good job developing the young guys in Coachella Valley for
a couple of years, took him to the Collar Cup
finals twice, had a Stanley Cup to his resume. It
just didn't work here. It just didn't work. But as

(01:04:42):
the Texter says, who's coming here if you don't give
him a chance. Three coaches in five years, three coaches
in three years is what it'll be. There'll be actually
three coaches on the payroll. I think the selling point
to bringing coach here is that this is an organization

(01:05:03):
that will do whatever it takes to win, but they
also expect you to put the best thing on the
ice as the head coach, and if you're not doing
the job, you're not going to be here for too long.
Takes some point this year. You heard the sound we
played with Eddie Olchek earlier from Friday. He and many
others believe, and obviously those in the organization making the
decision believe that this team had better talent than the

(01:05:25):
team that finished twenty points out of a playoff spot
went Oho to twelve and back to backs lost critical
games to Anaheim and San Jose during a stretch, they
obviously feel better. I think the thing with hockey coaches
is they all think, like any other coach and any
their sport, that they're the smartest guy in the room,
and they can change things and they can make it work,

(01:05:47):
and they can change players. They can get the best
out of guys. The eagle comes into play, you offer
them to this will be a well thought of job.
I can tell you that the facilities are phenomenal. Just talking,
I was just talking to somebody that to day that
that has worked for an NHL team is probably going
to work for another NHL team, has been out the
league for a while and in a role in the
business side of things high up, and he was telling

(01:06:10):
me that there's a lot of teams that don't have
Most teams don't have the facilities and the support that
the Crack can have. That's a good job. Now, roster wise,
they've got to do some work, but they'll they'll find
a guy. How does the crack and GM still have
a job two five feet there's a lot of that.
There's a lot of reports out there that I think

(01:06:31):
I can tell you're pretty accurate that Ron Francis is
going to move up in the organization. Jason Bottrell, who's
one of the assistant gms right now, will move into
the GM role. I'm not sure what the actual title
for Francis will be when he moves up, but kind
of think to Poto Hollander, like, so add some people

(01:06:53):
to the Hockey Operation staff. But yeah, man, it's they're
they're making moves. They are not God. I just I
think that the positive here is this. They will not
stand pat They will not stand pat four. Promote Ron Francis.
He's the one that put those players together. We have
the Maria's franchise all over again. No, you don't know,
you don't and the Mayor's by the way, you're playing

(01:07:14):
well right now. So I'm not sure if that's even ashult.
You don't that they are very different in how they
run things. There is zero, and I mean zero patience
in ownership with the Kraken for not winning. Complacency is
not who they are. Those people that run that team,

(01:07:35):
those people that got to that point, the people that
have money invested in this team, they didn't get there
by being complacent and it's pro sports, cutthroat world. Man,
it's not working, and you know it's not working, you
make a move. I go back. Seahawks did that once
before they fired Jim Moore after one year. People couldn't
believe it. Yea, And in the end it was a
great move, phenomenal, great move.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
Look what happened.

Speaker 5 (01:08:00):
Three.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
I hope the crack and bring a coach with the man,
toughness and grit. I'm tired of watching a ford Is
getting pummeled in front of the net with no retaliation
by guys. You cannot win the West if you're not tough. Yeah,
they've got to be, but they've got to be a
tougher team. That's team toughness. That is somewhat roster makeup,
but a lot of times that comes in from inside
the locker room. You watch the playoffs and you tell me,
you watch the response that happens when stuff goes on.

(01:08:22):
They had that two years ago, they didn't have in
the last couple of years. Give me Tortorella, Vigno, Boudreau,
someone who's won consistently before. Well, I can tell you
one guy ain't coming here is John Tortorella. But how
fun would that be be awesome. I would pay so
much it would be awesome. That would be sick it is,
It would be phenomenal. But he ain't coming here. Ain't

(01:08:43):
no way Towards is coming here. No, no, no, I'm
just telling Towards ain't coming here. No, Towards ain't coming here.
It's just isn't.

Speaker 7 (01:08:56):
He just reminded me of ain't coming home?

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Hey, Ian, can we expect the basketball team whenever gets
you to be running a similar fashion. I like the
aggressiveness and the desire to be the best, considering it's
probably gonna be the same ownership group. Yeah, oh my.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
Gosh, you just made me yearn for Tortorella.

Speaker 2 (01:09:14):
Torts will be fun.

Speaker 3 (01:09:15):
Give me the quotes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
You know who doesn't want tortses Beton because he'd be
yelling at Betton every single day.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Yes, Beton wears it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:09:23):
Actually, I want Tors to come down just for that,
just to see how Benton would happen.

Speaker 4 (01:09:27):
I think he'd be phenomenal. He's like the perfect person
in that situation.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
Had one goal at whose fault is that?

Speaker 4 (01:09:34):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
I had two? They did that too, The one guy
that played well, one guy that didn't. Okay, when does
Ron Francis start getting some heat? Says A two five
to three. He's getting some. I was gonna say, isn't
it right now he's getting some. You'd imagine that the
next move that they make will squarely rest on his shoulders.

(01:09:56):
Two six biles be fire. Whatever they know, it's the
only way to get rid the worst power play coach
in the history of the game. This team has built poorly,
verily poorly constructed. I said last year you could ask
Scotti blanken Bowman as a coach. We still have won
seventy games. We will only won seventy games, like to
go to the University of Denver coach Team USA and
or twenty gold medal World Championship twice. David Carle, Yeah,
that's a guy. His name is gonna be on the
list you have Denver coach. But I think they'll stick

(01:10:18):
with the Nane Shell guy. We'll see.

Speaker 11 (01:10:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
Jessica did run the power play. I think she's being
retained right now. I'm not sure the rest of the staff.
Lowry's contracts up, so I'm not sure about Bob Woods.
The only thing I've seen is Bilesma and that's from
the team. Bilesman the only name mentioned there. Okay, we'll
be out to Casey atamorrow doing shows. Betent'll be out
there with me run around. We're supposed to get Ron
Francis on one on one, so we'll see seeah that

(01:10:42):
goes tomorrow. Dave Softie Maler joins us from the EQC
next or then let's sit down to the e QC
Emerald Queen Casino but home away from home for one day.

(01:11:02):
Hello sir, Yes, sir, how are you.

Speaker 3 (01:11:04):
I'm good. How's our guy biles Onile doing Man? And
when check in with him?

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Holy moly, I blame you guys. You did a weekly
show with him.

Speaker 9 (01:11:11):
Yeah, I'm trying to think of guys that have done
a weekly show with us. There's not been many coaches,
to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
They got they got turfed after one year. Yeah, was
more part of that.

Speaker 9 (01:11:25):
Did I did the Jimmy Lake show when he got whack,
but that was technically a year and a half later. Yeah, Cod,
that's right. He never did a show with Mara. Did
a show with more after you got fired? Studio me
and Hugh That videos on YouTube, By the way, if
you want to watch it is if you're really bored
over the weekend.

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
But yeah, I mean the first thing I thought of
when they fired Dan Bilesman is actually, you know what,
the first thing I thought of was did Philip Grubauer
just cost him his job? That's the first thing I
thought of.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
That was one of the reasons talking.

Speaker 9 (01:11:56):
About Grooby and how obviously ineffective he was. I mean,
how many many general managers get to hire and fire
three different coaches in five years and keep their own gig?

Speaker 3 (01:12:05):
Yeah, that's that's the Is that typical in hockey?

Speaker 11 (01:12:08):
Like?

Speaker 3 (01:12:08):
Is that different from well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
A little bit. I've found this. This is an interesting thing.
The coaching tenures NHL, NFL, NBA, Major League Baseball. What
do you think the long the league that has the
longest average coaching tenure is?

Speaker 9 (01:12:22):
Ah, boy, it's a great question. It's definitely not the NBA.
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say the National Football.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
League National Football League is number three.

Speaker 13 (01:12:32):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Really?

Speaker 9 (01:12:34):
Well, you know, well, let me backtrack, because if Scott's
service can get ten years, then anybody can, right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Baseball four point three to zero average years average tenures
in terms of years of head coaches NBA four point
one two. Wow, Now I'm gonna get to back to
that a second.

Speaker 3 (01:12:49):
And of one and Dune's in the NBA recently, man
for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
NFL four point zero four and the NHL two point
three zero and probably going down because that doesn't include
Dan Al's been one.

Speaker 9 (01:13:00):
Now there's extremely sounds like research you did by yourself,
not at all put off from Twitter.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
I did, and but but Allison's podcast partner showing got you.
But here's the thing, So look at look at the NBA,
because I would have guessed the NBA too, But the
NBA is probably skewed because Kerr and Popovich have been
there for like three decades. It feels like, right right,
the NHL would be even lower, except John Cooper's been

(01:13:27):
there for like almost twenty years in Tampa. But so
there are some outliers along the way. But I think
the NBA is really skewed by those two guys. With
with Kerr and with.

Speaker 3 (01:13:36):
Podocast, I guess the question would be why did they
do this? Today?

Speaker 9 (01:13:40):
We had Dan was on with US Wednesday of last week,
and there were rumors that something was going on behind
the scenes at kCi because Dan was supposed to come
on the show at three forty five, and he ended
up I think coming out of five forty five.

Speaker 3 (01:13:54):
Dick, is that right? Last week?

Speaker 9 (01:13:55):
Yeah, he was a couple hours late, you know, which
is fine. I got stuff going on exit interviews whatever.
But I wonder how long they've known about this for
I don't think Bilesman knew he was getting fired.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
On he was on our show on Wednesday.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
I don't think he did.

Speaker 9 (01:14:06):
Otherwise he went to come on, right, Why should I
do a radio show if you're gonna turf me?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
So why?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:14:13):
What took place? When was the last game of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Week a week ago? Tomorrow night?

Speaker 9 (01:14:18):
Six game right Tuesday night? So what happened between Wednesday
morning and last night? Slashed today that led them to
make this move? Because was he not allowed to go
through all the exit interviews?

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Well he would have, and I think this the exit
interviews are also through the GM and the you know,
the hockey ops staff. So maybe I mean all I mean,
I've got Francis tomorrow out there at CACI. That's the
first question, right, Like what because remember last year when
Hackstall got let go and there was a story that
came out that the players they are players going into
Ron Francis saying we won't play for this guy. You

(01:14:53):
got to get rid of them and all that stuff,
and they kind of lost their mind. Go and that's
not true. We had everly on the show. He's like,
I didn't, that wasn't said. But I've think in hockey
that exit interviews me in a time. So what whatever
message they were.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Getting, I got you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they did the
wrong thing.

Speaker 2 (01:15:08):
They got the wrong they had. I think I think
enough people said they had the wrong guy that that
they had to evaluate it.

Speaker 9 (01:15:13):
And well it sounds like again, I mean, the Kraken
made that big announcement with their ticket price reduction, I
could go and they listened to their fans, and now
they're listening to their players for the second consecutive offseason.

Speaker 5 (01:15:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:15:25):
I mean the players were the ones that told them
to fire Hackstall, right or they they got they got
a bad vibe from them after the Hackstall thing, and
now apparently the same thing has happened with Bousman. I
don't know, man, I mean, I just think the question
for Ron Francis, you know, Nico Harrison said, Harrison, is
that right? The Mavericks GM was asked today saw that
why he should not be fired.

Speaker 3 (01:15:45):
That's a great question.

Speaker 9 (01:15:46):
First of all, the way the guy phrased it was
awesome and good for him for just coming out and
asking it, and I thought Nico gave a pretty good answer.
But I mean, the same question probably should be asked
if Ron Francis by somebody.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
I mean, you've whacked two coaches.

Speaker 9 (01:15:58):
I mean, yeah, it's an expansion team, and you've had
a lot of injuries and all that stuff, which you detailed,
you know, about an hour ago on on your show.
But why should Ron Francis be here and now they're
promoting them? I mean, is this more of a hoblunder
depoto thing? You think that's what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:13):
That's okay that Francis And in fact, for a hockey
example of it, there's two that are very close Vegas.
Kelly McCrimmon was the assistant GM and George McFee was
the GM when they first started. George mcfee's now the president.
Mccrimmon's a GM. They bumped him up similar fashion and
up north of the border. Patrick Elvin's a GM. But
they've got Jim Rutherford who kind of runs the show

(01:16:33):
as the president so it's done in hockey a lot.
It was done by the Mariners.

Speaker 3 (01:16:38):
I think the only reason it still stops with Francis
is yes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:41):
The Bucks still much. I mean, like, we all know
who runs the show with the Mariners, right, it's cheer, right,
I would the one thing as far as far as
the tenure is, I think because of the way hockey drafts,
I think you got to give a guy four or
five years. I got it, like his players. These drafts
are just coming in and ild somebody get texting a
great question like do you I think since it's going
to be probably the same type of ownership, same ownership

(01:17:02):
group with the NBA, that they'll have the same you know,
the same way of going about things. In other words,
if he doesn't work aggressive and I think that's the
message if you're a cracking fan and a sonic fan coming.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Up right, great, you want that?

Speaker 9 (01:17:14):
What do you think Todd did when he ran the Seahawks.
He whacked Jim Moore after a year. It's the second
time he's fired a Seattle coach after a year. Yeah,
And the last time he did it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
The next guy he hired won a title four years later.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
And kind of worked out, Okay, didn't it?

Speaker 14 (01:17:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:17:26):
Kind of okay. I mean I love it, to be
totally honest with you.

Speaker 9 (01:17:29):
You know, I kind of feel a little bit bad
for Dan because I think injuries kind of bit him
in the ass last year, and the play of Grubaier
was horrible obviously, So you.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Know that's I mean, you know you you detailed at
oh and twelve and back to backs.

Speaker 9 (01:17:40):
I mean, even if they split those and they went
half of them, they're still not making the playoffs, right
when it's all said and done. So I don't know,
I mean, I just think you're exactly right that as
a sports fan, you should love Todd light Wicki's aggressiveness.
He was aggressive with the Seahawks when he realized that
something wasn't working, and now he's aggressive with the Kraken
when he realized something isn't working. But this is now

(01:18:01):
the second time in two years he's realized something isn't working.
So they need to reevaluate their coaching, you know, higher
process here, and yeah, maybe you got a guy who's
a little more of a ball buster. I don't know,
I mean, Torts is available, adopt they'd hire that Gamelable, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
He would shake it up, man, There's no question about
that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
I know we got to go, but let me just
I wanna throw one thing at you as we get
ready to go. I think they also need somebody. I
think they need a total package I need. I think
they need somebody that can sell the game a little
bit too.

Speaker 9 (01:18:31):
I totally agree with you. I was thinking the exact
same thing. They need personalities. They need stars, they do,
but everybody needs a star.

Speaker 3 (01:18:39):
They need personalities.

Speaker 13 (01:18:41):
You.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
I was one of the things I was most disappointed
with with with Disco was he's just he was just
so dry, so mundane. They need they need a Brian Schmitzer, like,
they need a personality. They need a guy that could
Mike McDonald can be boring as a day is long.
He's a Seahawks coach. I can need somebody that's better
than that.

Speaker 9 (01:19:02):
In the NFL has got personalities on the field, right right, Yes,
the Seahawks have personalities on the field.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
Yeah, I could have.

Speaker 3 (01:19:09):
They need some juice on the iceman.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
They do, right, I agree, no doubt. So we're on
the same page, all right, Brian Schmetzer, Yes.

Speaker 14 (01:19:16):
My walls down.

Speaker 9 (01:19:17):
Never mind, what's today Monday, Let's see, we're gonna head
the Cleveland and the Giants two and three on the
on the draft clock. Uh Millen will join us a
little more at four with you, and then Mina Chimes
is gonna be with us at five o'clock tonight because
she's a little busy starting Wednesday, so we're

Speaker 3 (01:19:33):
Gonna have her on the air five o'clock tonight talking
rapt ship, all right,

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