Furness Show 4-30: PWHL to Seattle, Nick Emmanwori, Greg Cosell.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Great news, you know. I mean, as a father of
a daughter who played sports growing up, what are you
laughing about that phrase?

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Yeah, the father of a daughter, I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
The as someone has As someone who has a daughter,
I think it's great. More women's sports. It's good Andrews.
People know Andrews's sister plays in the NWSL. I you know,
I wish my daughter had more growing up in terms
of women's sports to look up to and to emulate
or just kind of enjoy. Not that guys can enjoy

(00:31):
it too. That's kind of a misnomer out there. But
and listen, the WNBA is not for everybody. I if
you watch the NWSL, I think it's it's pretty high level,
and I think it doesn't have the complain about the WNBA,
And you can comment at four nine, four or five.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
One.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
The complain about the WNBA is it just doesn't look
like what you think of as basketball at the highest
level because you're used to college or NBA where they
play above the rim. WNBA doesn't do that. I mean,
it's a huge deal that the woman Malonga Malonga.

Speaker 4 (01:04):
Yeah, a Storm draft pick, the.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Number one draft pick, Storm, that's number two overall, that
she can dunk. Okay, Like you know, fifty percent of
the kids playing in high school basketball can dunk, so
that's not a big deal to most people, but it
is in that game. You can enjoy that game for
what it is, though doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Certainly,
what Kate and Clark did to get more people interested,
along with Angel Rees and others, it was great at

(01:28):
the collegiate level, and for a while it translates to
the WNBA. That's always the complaint I hear about the WNBA,
and you know, it's just it's for me, it's not
for me. But WSL looks and it's pretty out, it's
pretty awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
The PWHL is interesting because if you watch Women's International Hockey,
there's a very much a WNBA element to it. It's
obviously slower h there's not technically you're not a half
to have not allowed to have contact. The p WHL
has like a hybrid body checking Paul, like you can
actually do some body checking. So if you watch that,

(02:02):
I PWHL watching a little bit of that this year
Compared to Women's Olympic Hockey or International Hockey PBHL is
a better product. Now, maybe you don't have the best
players like I. But in international hockey it's the US,
Canada and everybody else. It's kind of what for a
long time, it's what women's soccer was like, right for
a long time, women's soccer anymore? Canada, US thanks for coming,

(02:25):
But that has evolved and changed and hopefully with the
PWHL that will allow others to get competitive. Is so
every World championship in every Olympic Games, isn't just US
versus Canada and women's hockey. What I hear growth and
growth is big, yes, And I think that people that
go to the games will enjoy the product. I think
you'll enjoy what you see. I think it's more NWSL

(02:49):
than it is WNBA. If that makes sense, And that
sounds condescending, I'm just being realistic and that's just my thoughts.
I I do find it aggressive in a market where ma'am,
I was reading some stuf. You know this quote unquote
great hockey market and all these things. We're still a
growing hockey market, and I think we're a hockey market
that doesn't get as much credit as it should. For

(03:09):
a lot of us that grew up here, we grew
up watching CBC Hockey Night in Canada. Vancouver's very close.
We had the Totems for a zillion you know, the
team that never gets the credit here, it's like I
love you Todd. Nobody cares about the Metropolitans. It was
nineteen seventeen, but the Totems carried the torch for a
lot of years sixties and seventies, playing the Portland Bukaroos

(03:30):
and others. And then obviously we got the dub with
the Breakers slash Thunderbirds, silver Tips jumping in all the
rivalries here. Hockey has grown a lot. I was just
last night with my buddy Stu, who's our great editor
at the KRACK and Hockey Network. If you watch the
breakdowns that Allison does and brettdu in intermissions with all
the graphics and here's what happened, and highlight this and
do all that, all whistles and bells. Stu does all that,

(03:53):
and he's incredible. He played junior hockey here for a
lot of the younger teams and he went on to
play college hockey album Burningham I think it was. And
we were talking with somebody last night and like the
junior minor hockey scene here has been growing and thriving
for a long time. All of that said, can we

(04:14):
sustain NHL p WHL, WHL times two all in this
area in this region? Probably because it's different. Probably because
it's different. And what I mean by that is you
probably won't have a ton of crossover fans because the
competition would be probably Everett in Seattle, Tips and Thunderbirds,

(04:36):
not not the NHL team. And I don't know how
much crossover you'll truly have the fact that they are
playing at Climate Pledge is probably good because you know
Everett in Seattle. Again, slash kent very kind of like,
if you're a Silver Tips fan, you've probably live in
Staholmeis County, right, if you're a Thunderbirds fan that if

(04:57):
you're a Thunderbers fan, you're probably in Southeast County maybe
to call them in that area, right, this team you
got to come to Seattle. It's one thing, it's ahl game,
but you'll so I think it. I think it will work.
And I did you know if they want to call
us a thriving and growing hockey town, man, I'm in
one hundred percent. Yeah, Like let's go, like, let's make
that be the case.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
I could see this being a very good family friendly
event too. But you know that's a family.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Spend spend that I hope. I don't know if they
talk ticket prices today. That's a good question.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
What I'm curious about A good question, Jess, because you
see it being because when I went to Thunderbirds games,
I was able to bring a ton of people for
a very good price point. When it comes to a little.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
More expensive have the t birds and the tips, like
they're a little there.

Speaker 2 (05:38):
Due to demand because we are a hockey western part
of the state.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
But it's not like the ten dollars tickets it used
to do, right, yeah, right now? The two for one
the tee birds was great on Tuesdays. That's all do
good deals. Yes, yeah, I don't know whatever it does,
but I know they do that. I think that's a
really cool Hopefully Mike knows that. Give him a heads up,
did I or should we just throw it cold at
Benton and see how he reacts.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I'll do There's no way he's not listening all sent.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
I'll reach out to a couple of people too in
the organization, see, because I price points going to be huge,
Like that's going to be huge it will if you
can go to a hockey game and just if nothing else,
let's use this go to Climate Plage Arena for an
event and it's inexpensive or affordable, that's great.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Well, you'd have to think that Kracken leadership has some
say in everything that's going on. Toddler Wickie was at
the press conference and Sam Holloway, yes, and so you
would have to think that, considering what they did this
season to lower their prices while they're selling out every
single game, point that the leadership might have some say

(06:48):
in making this an affordable event for multiple people because
they're more interested in growing their fan base than making
a profit.

Speaker 1 (06:56):
Yeah, that makes sense. I think that. You know, it's
good for the businesses around Climate Pledge two. You know,
I mean our friends Justin and Gary to Queen and
Beer Hall. That place is always hopping. You know, you
still up Buckleys. There's a couple other spots that have
opened up around there too. And then I guess what
Tom's the place across. Have you guys been there?

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (07:12):
No, I'm excited though. I think we should do a
show outing.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
Sure, we could do that. I can't wait for the
new bar to work. The New Hall. Yeah, that's going
to be great by next to Team Mobile too. So
I mean, my wife's at the game today with cousin
Eric from Alabama, and I was like, man, too bad
that the place isn't open right now. It'd be perfect
place to go before the game. Okay, we'll take a break,
come back, Let's talk to one of the newest Seahawks.
Is he Kyle Hamilton? Is he Cam Chancellor? Is he

(07:37):
a combination of both? Or is he just Nicky Mantawarri?
Who knows? We'll find out.

Speaker 6 (07:42):
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Speaker 1 (08:02):
All right, Welcome back in Sports Radio ninety three point three. KJRFM.
Wrapped up last week a lot of draft coverage out
of the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, hours and hours and
hours and into the night. And on Friday night we
saw a little surprised the Seahawks. John Schneider, not a
guy that usually trades up in drafts, did just that,

(08:23):
flew up. The draft board went up all the way
to the number three pick in that second round, and
with that selection, he picked a safety that maybe reminds
Seahawks fans of a legend along the way from South Carolina.
And Nick emn Owari joined us right now. First and foremost, congratulations,
you're not nestling, I'm talking to you on the phone.
But welcome to Seattle, sir, Welcome to Seattle.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah, I appreciate that. Man.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Walk us through this man, you had a thirty visit
with Seattle, so I'm assuming you had an inkling. I
know you talked to some of us on last week
on draft Day, but this is a first chance for
a lot of Seahawks fans to hear from you. So
walk us through the process. When did you think that
maybe Seattle'll be interested in you?

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (09:02):
Honestly, when I came back from the visit, I had
a good feeling.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
I actually take it.

Speaker 7 (09:07):
Like my brothers and our group chaid, I was like,
I think it's gonna be Seattle. So I had a
good good feeling about it going into the draft. I
had a good feeling about a lot of other teams,
but I was pretty high in Seattle. Itsually gonna be Seattle.
Or the Cincinnati Vengas. So I was thinking like they
picked right perform or sowing that range. But yeah, that

(09:31):
was that was I had.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
I had a good feeling about it going into it.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
Hey, hey, Nick, tell us what this is like because
we keep you know, it's one of those things that
you hear throughout the draft prospect, the process, the thirty visits,
the thirty visits, you guys have done all these other things,
the combines and you know, all these other The world's
hardest job interview probably is NFL draft. You're going through
all these different things, whether it's physical or mental. On
the way when a team brings you out here, when

(09:56):
specifically when Seattle brought you out here, what was what?
What was all entailed with that?

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (10:01):
Yeah, so they they bring you out there, you know,
get on the flight, get out there kind of like
meet the staff, meet the coaches, meet the equipment people.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
So you meet it to meet everybody, just going through
like your due diligence. Uh So it's not really like
nothing were to give you any hints, but it's like
you're just trying.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
To catch vibes. They're trying to catch a vibe with you.
I'm trying to catch a vibe with them, if it's mutual,
if they like me a lot. You know, you don't
really have to say so wherever you're going in the NFL,
So just trying to present yourself as best as you
can will also being really yourself. So oh yeah, that's
not really how the thirty visits go. So you really
have no idea.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
What team's gonna get you. That's kind of like the.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Thing about the drafts, kind of little get a little
nervous kind of because like ultimately you have you're confident,
but you just never know how things go, especially like
every year in the NFL draft, it is like some
dudes fall who are supposed to pick, get picked tied,
some dudes get picked tired who you never thought were
going to go there.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
So you ended up coming out here. You walked into
a building that there was a little thing called the
Legion of Boom a little while ago, that that was
running and terrorizing the National Football League. I know you're
familiar with those guys, and you're walking through the hall
where Cam was or Earl and Sherham and all that
that group was, and I know you reference this on
your conference call with all of us but what do

(11:18):
you remember about the Legion the Boom and what does
it mean to you to try to come and try
to replicate that.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I remember, man, I love Leadion of the Boom Man.

Speaker 7 (11:27):
Honestly, I think one of the like I said, I
think that one of the best defenses in NFL history,
a lot of swagger took everybody man the whole defense,
the defensive front, the linebacker corps, and the secondary. It
just you know, a lot of people just focus on
the secondary, but it takes everybody on the whole defense
to become that.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
But I don't necessarily want to like, you know, like try.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
To bring it back.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
But like my whole idea of.

Speaker 7 (11:50):
Is like the Leads of Boom and me is just
us having an elite defensive, top five defense. So I
definitely want to be a part of a team that's
you know, that's that's their goal. But you know, it
just happens. It just happens to be that. I'm on
the Seahawks and I'm a big safety and I play dB.
So it's like it kind of like history almost repeats itself.
So it's like, you know, bring it back, get a

(12:11):
good ring to it, something for the fans to hop
on and enjoy. But yes, I remember leasing the boom Man.
I remember them terrorizing a lot of teams. Uh remember
remember them like just playing in a bunch of big games,
playing together. Uh you know, like you got Richard Sherman
playing corner, and if he's not there, you got Earl
Thomas or camp.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
Chancer over top hitting them hard.

Speaker 7 (12:32):
You know, if Richard Sherman is not there, or you
got Bobby Wagener in the middle.

Speaker 3 (12:36):
Just make it play silid the sideline. So you know,
it's just a great thing to kind of like come
back into.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
Like I got a bunch of videos saved on my phone,
like literally just highlight to them guys, and they just
they just created a great thing in the NFL long
time ago. So it would be fun to kind of,
you know, recreate that moment, uh in Seattle. Part especially
what the dude secondary.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
So yeah, I mean, and part of that was the
stadium here and and I know you haven't been out
here for a game at Looming Field, but uh, you
know back then, it was that the stadium. Like I'll
just tell you this, the south end zone, the but
where you guys come out of the tunnel, there are
some scary dudes down there. They they wanted to intimidate
people too. So I mean you say they need to
get that stadium Hammon again, which I think they will.
Nick Imano Wardy joins us here. He is the second

(13:20):
round pick for the Seahawks. Have you watched much film
on Devin Witherspoon, because you talk about the swagger they had,
h he has that. He definitely has that for the
Seahawks secondary.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Yeah, Devin Willison definitely got that swagger.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
Man.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
He got a little I don't know what game it was,
I thank you.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
They're playing the Bengals, and I remember him just chirping
back and forth to Jamar Chase and.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
I like, dudes again whose energy I can kind of
feed off of.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
And you know he's talking smack. I'll be right behind him,
talk to snack with him, you know. So like bringing
that that swag to the defense.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
You know that. I respect dudes like that always, so
uh great corner.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
So yeah, you got to back it up and he
can do that. There's no doubt about that. Obvious. The
connection with Cam. It's body size, body type, style of play,
all those things, and you know, you know what we
all know what I mean, that's a really high bar.
That guy's a legend. Not just in the NFL, boy,
he's one of the legendary figures ever in the history
of this franchise out here. But you actually have a connection,
right position coach connection with Cam.

Speaker 7 (14:20):
Uh Yeah, My defensive back coach at South Carolina was
also his defensive back coach when he was in college
at Virginia tich So that I was crazy.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
I didn't when I found that out. That kind of
like was a crazy coincidence.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
So he kind of already knew how to like kind
of he already knew what type of he already had
the experience of like super big safeties, like we're talking
about six three, two twenty five, you know. So he
told me like whenever Cam was most to the NFL,
he used to tell a bunch of scouts like, no,
Cam's not a linebacker, He's a dB. Like he's like
staying on the table for Cam. I think a lot

(14:54):
of the scouts were like saying Cam was a linebacker
and he was going back and forth. So when Cam
got an NFL, phove those guys wrong. He was just
like telling me that story. Uh so just just a
great connection to coincidence.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Kind of Yeah, Tory and Gray right as a coach,
if I'm not mistaken, that's that's who the coach is
for both of you guys. Yeah, yeah, I'm you got
to you come here with a coach named Mike McDonald.
It's a defense first guy. As a defensive guy, you
gotta love the fact that the head coach is a
defensive guy and really consider one of the brightest minds
in defense in the NFL. He had another guy named
Kyle Hamilton that that kind of similar body type as well.

(15:28):
I'm as listen, there's a lot of big names I'm
throwing out there, Nick, and you're coming in here, I know,
look ready to work and get after and stuff. But
do you see and if you talked to them about
the style of play a guy, I mean, you could
play in the box, they said the other day. You
could play on the outside. You could play like a
boundary corner if they needed you to do that as well.
So it sounds like you're you're very versatile. But but
do you foresee like a three safety look of a

(15:49):
big nickel. So to speak with you and Julian Love
and Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Uh, you know, because Mike came from Baltimore and he
had a lot of got a lot of experience.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
From over there, had Kyle.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
So he he was telling me about how Coy started out,
and uh kind of like he kind of seen the
same vision for me, uh, but in a different way
in my own my own play style. We dot kind
of got the same play style, same body type.

Speaker 3 (16:14):
But I trust coach Mike. You know, he he knows
exactly what he's doing.

Speaker 7 (16:18):
So that three safety look and this defense will be great.
I can you know, Rumber real versatile. We got a
real versatile back in.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Sometimes you see different witdspoons in the nickel too, so
uh we just have.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
To wait and see.

Speaker 7 (16:30):
But uh, the names you're pulling out, man, honestly kind
of like be humble, like you know, I think I
can live up to that hype, honestly, so my own belief,
for my own confidence, So I think I'll be ready
for that challenge.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Where are you most comfortable on the field, in the box,
in the in the secondary, playing a little deeper, maybe
playing on the outside, maybe playing a nickel a nickel corner.
Where where do you think you're the most comfortable.

Speaker 7 (16:54):
Throughout my years at South Carolina, I'll play a little
bit of everything. Actually, I played deep in the half
of it, deep in the middle of the field, play
nickel nickel like big Nickel, press man, reps, off man, reps.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
Boundary safety.

Speaker 7 (17:09):
I'm kind of in the box a little bit more so, honestly,
whenever I get to the NFL, I'll just have to
see where I fit in, because you know, college he
kind of had to do a little bit of everything.
If you guys were lacking at somewhere else on the defense,
but the NFL, you got good players all around you.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
So I like playing towards the box where there's more action.

Speaker 7 (17:26):
But you know, if I need to play in the
back end, I think I think I do that really
well to you know, go pick some balls off, protect
the deep end.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
But I think where the action is. That's why I
like dam so so.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Nick. We had on a couple of days ago, we
had the quarterback coach slash co offensive coordinator Nick Sheridan
on from Alabama talking about Jalen Milroe and we asked
him about you, and he basically he said he glad
he didn't have to see you anymore, is what he
kind of said all the way. But because Milroe was selected,
you're familiar with the Seahawks quarterback they took in the

(17:59):
third round. Tell uh, tell Seahawks fans they're getting the
Jalen Milroe.

Speaker 3 (18:03):
Yeah, you're a dog man. Honestly. Uh, I'll say this
for my own personal experience.

Speaker 7 (18:08):
You know, I played a lot of games in college,
seen a lot of different dudes, but Jalen Morro is
probably like the the fastest player I've ever played against.
And uh that's coming from me. You know, I'm like
a four to three guy. I played against definite a
chain when he was at tax A and M. But
Jalen Morro is like in game speed, It's probably like
the most like the fastest dude I ever had to

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like line up against it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
He's just a dog man, honestly. He can kind of
take the take the game in his hands whenever he
wants to. Uh.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
So it'd be exciting to go go against him and
practice and chune with myself again just like how we
were back in college. So I'm excited to see him
as a teammate, and I hope fans are excited to
get him as as fans.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
So did did did you have a pick against him?

Speaker 3 (18:53):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I didn't. Oh okay, okay. We see so many highlights
running through there. I'm like, I thought I saw that
might have been from you. So what with him? Like
because the passing part of it, like, you know, was
he accurate? Is all those things? And I know, like
McDonald said the other day, they'll probably have some sort
of package for this guy. Uh for for Jalen Milroe.
When you say like fast, like he's not just quarterback fast, right,

(19:16):
like he's NFL player fast.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
Yeah, Like he's he's fast.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
Like I don't want to compare dudes or nothing, but
uh like I seen like something online like about him
and Lamar Jackson speed. I'm not sure how fast Lamar
Jackson is, but Jalen Morrow, he's like he's he's legit
fast like any QB runs or if he's just scrambling,
he just moves at a different pace that I don't
think a lot of guys really understand. But you know

(19:41):
from when he watches Alabama, for him, he's just he's
a different dude. You know, once he gets the ball
in open field, it's like you if you don't have
that second geary, you won't catch him. And you know
he has he has a beautiful deep ball too, you know,
one of the best deep balls in his quarterback class.
Uh you know, thrown outside the hashes or even in
the middle of.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
The field, but he has he has a beautiful deep ball.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
So yeah, you know, nickod So like your pick at
thirty five, A lot of people had a first round
grade for you, a royal, the tight end from Miami.
Same thing, and Milroll is a guy that people feel
like could be a steal in the third round when
he develops two. So kind of a solid top of
that draft class for Seattle. Final thing for you, you came
out to Seattle. You played in South Carolina, a little
different part of the world out here in the Northwest.

(20:21):
What was your impression of coming out here to Seattle.

Speaker 7 (20:25):
It's a different city for sure, but you know, I'm
from Columbia, so it was a little small, medium sized town,
super humid, so I'm not sure what they expect when
I get out there, but it seemed like a beautiful city.
I've been trying to do my research online and see what,
you know, try to get a better look at it.
But it seems like a beautiful city, not too too

(20:46):
much going on, but also has some life in there too,
So I'm excited to get up there.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
Hey, I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a little,
a little a teaser. You're gonna be happy to hear
this coming from where you came from playing college football
in the SEC country too. The guys that come from
down there and come up here training camp in July
and August, it gets like eighty five ninety degrees, which
for us out here, Nick, it's that's hot as hell.
But you know what, no humidity, buddy, no humidity. There's

(21:11):
a little breeze blowing off Lake Washington on the practice field.
You're you're gonna be loving it compared to what you're
probably used to.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
Yeah, someone have messed that too. Man. It doesn't rain
as much as they say it rains.

Speaker 7 (21:24):
But no, they're clean, clean weather man gig clean air,
not too hot.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
So you're gonna love it.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Hey, listen, Seahawk fans, I can't wait to watch you
play either, and they're'd be loving watching watching you out
there with that. Yeah, that secondary with guys like Kobe
and Julie and and Devin Witherspoon and Rek Wolan. See
who's faster You a Reek along the way too, huh.
We'll find that out as well. Hey, Nick, thanks so
much for joining us. Man, welcome to see how congratulations.

Speaker 3 (21:50):
Yeah, man, I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Good stuff there, he uh. He joins a defense that
got really really good good as year went on.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Well.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
Greg co Sell, by the way, is coming up at
two o'clock today, about twenty five minutes or so, and
I know Greg is really high on what McDonald's defense
did at the end of the season last season and
how it started to develop. And now you add a
guy like this to the roster and it gives you

(22:21):
so much versatility, you know. I mean, Kobe Bryant and
Julian Love your two safeties. Jeric Reid's kind of the
interesting guy in the mix. He's been hurt a lot
in his first two years playing with Seattle, but good
special teams player, kind of a deaf guy. I'm excited
to see what Emana war he does and how he

(22:42):
fits in, how they use them, how they utilize him
because one of the things he's not as big as Cam.
That's the one thing he's not as thick as Cam.
Steve Atwater is the only safety in the history of
man that was that big like Cam's just different level.
But their their lack of depth at linebacker and inside

(23:03):
linebacker is kind of striking. They didn't address that at
all that you know. And I both our buddy Corbyn
Smith and UH and Candota both did their you know
which I love. I love roster roulette, especially on what
is the day today?

Speaker 2 (23:19):
All we have is postseason of.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The winter sports and so we do roster Roulette on
April thirtieth. Their lack of of inside linebacker depth and
think stack linebacker's kJ Bobby is striking. It's Ernest Jones
and Tyree Knight and then the drop off from there
is massive John Ross, Drake Thomas, Patrick O'Connell.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Yeah, so you see some sort of like creative usage of.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, because I think, I think if you want to
get heavier in the box, maybe he's down there and
you still keep and with there's in love and UH
and Kobe Bryant on the field. Now, Kobe Bryant's contract
runs out after this year, but I've I've heard that
a lot I would caution people with this. Kobe Bryant
rookie season, came in, was your slot corner. There was

(24:16):
the year before Witherspoon got here, slot corner, played outside
corner in college. They make him a slot corner, nickel
guy basically, and he had a solid season, and then
Witherspoon comes in and he's kind of a lost guy.
He's a lost soul. And you've got all that you
had going on in that secondary, right with knucklehead Adams.

(24:38):
You had Julian who remember there were there were games
that digs and Love and digs in Adams were getting
ninety nine percent of the snaps, and there was a
couple of games that somehow Julian Love made a Pro Bowl.
With a couple of games that he had he had
snaps in the thirty percent count. But you but you
have those guys. But Kobe was just lost his second

(25:00):
year and then last year obviously he comes in and
they decide to make him a safety, so they convert
him to that, they make the move. He goes back
there because they had Jenkins here, who we kind of
thought was going to be a dude, got hurt. And
then Kobe just hasn't let go of that role. Yep,
And he's a good player back there, and there's a
different body type and everything else. So when you hear

(25:22):
the following, well, and Kobe Bryant's in the final years contract. Fact, Yes,
that's a fact. It's a fact. But I think Kobe
Bryant might be part of what they want to do
in the future. I don't think they drafted this guy
to say, Okay, well he can play wherever this year
and he's gonna replace Kobe Bryant. That's not what they did. Yeah,
there's a weird dynamic in sports. And I'm gonna be

(25:45):
somewhat condescending and sarcastic here, and I've sort of apologized,
but I don't apologize to the people that I'm talking to.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
Sorry, not sorry.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Pretty much, you win with good players. You don't get
better by getting rid of good players. Yes, and I
know I know there's a salary cap, and believe it
or not, so does John Schneider. Really, he does know that. Really,
So adding as opposed to just replacing is usually beneficial,

(26:13):
and I think that's what they're doing here, is they're adding.
I'd still like this seems some depth in inside linebacker
kind of terrifying. If Jones or Night got hurt and
Night we're still kind of waiting to see. I mean,
he kind of stepped in last year and played well. Obviously,
there's no doubt about the fact Mike McDonald believes in him.
Otherwise that would have been a priority in the draft,
at least in rounds Day three on four, runs four

(26:33):
or five, six or seven. Right, So they obviously think
a lot of him, but they're just not a lot
of depth right now in the system as far as
as far as inside linebacker. But the amount worries is
Emun Warri is gonna be a guy that's gonna that's
gonna impact this team. I would be stunned if he
doesn't this draft. I can't wait to hear co Sell
at two o'clock because this draft, it feels like it

(26:54):
has the potential to be an impact draft like we
saw in the first three years of John Schneider. Now,
I'm not saying you're gonna have guys that are all
going to be Hall of Famers, Pro Bowlers, all Pro players.
Those drafts were beyond special, right, and they caught lightning
in a bottle, And they also got some not just
great play, they got guys that were legendary figures here
as well, like guys that are Ring of Honor players.

(27:16):
But this is a kind of draft when you look
at the guys on paper and you look at who
they brought in. You've got a starting offensive lineman that
immediately made like like, if he's eighty percent of what
we think Gray's abel is, you're better on the offensive line.
If he's what you expect him to be, you're significantly better.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
And they they brought in six people, six offensive linemen,
but I'm not I know you're talking.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
About one because you can't look at the guys at
the bottom end. Because here's the thing. Someone of the
bottom end guys from last year and this year is
gonna get cut. That's when like Bob and Corden both
wrote that, And it's true, like some of those guys
like are not like Mike Darrell might not be here.

Speaker 4 (27:54):
Not all of the eleven picks are going to make
the roster.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
No, I think it's safe to say that if you
look at that got I mean, it's it's kind of
I'll do my rosterlete right now. Who's going to make
the roster? I have a second, right, I guess.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Yes you do. I just really liked the investment that
they made because they have never picked that much. And
also I think it was.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
They picked a lot of offensive.

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Linemen, but they've tied for the most offensive lineman ever
picked in a direct But.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Picking a guy in the first round that maybe can
play as a postry Mainefetti or others is a nice step.
Like I got to meet him, Zabel makes Zabel starts.
Uh is going to start or play a lot. He'll
be a nickel guy. Arroyo is in the mix, Milro's
on the roster. We know that Riley Mills is pup.
He's physically he'll be a pup guy. Like you will

(28:39):
not see him. I mean you may see him at
the end of train. I think they're going to try
to just put p upm unless he makes this. He
told us when we had it, and we'll probably play
some of that Friday. We have a conversation with him Saturday.
He thinks he's ahead of schedule, and most guys do
every after.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Of course, but I still think I'm eighteen, but I.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Think he's I think he's pup. Tory Horton's in the mix.
He plays Oots is your full back YEP for an
offense and needs a full bet. Make it after that? Uh,
Cable do right, I pronounce it, yep, Cable do fifty
to fifty. Davy Martinez is on this team, you think, so?
I like that Davy Martinez is on this football I
like that. Well, because you can't trust the other guy

(29:17):
to stay healthy.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
Yeah, well you need four now, I honestly think you
need four running.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Fact you do. Uh, we'll be helped. San Francis going
through like six last year.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, they had a rough gown.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Mason Richmond fifty to fifty. Ricky White probably a practice
squad guy. So seven, eight of the nine, eight of
the eleven guys are probably on your roster. Pup guy
and a couple of practice quad guys.

Speaker 4 (29:37):
Okay.

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Hockey League is now in Seattle, joining Vancouver as the
two expansion teams alongside the inaugural six markets. Mike Benton
was at the press conference at Climate Pledgerina right now
and he this afternoon, this morning he joined us right now,

(30:54):
Hello captain, and.

Speaker 8 (30:57):
It's been a while and they will be that first
time caller, long listener guy work for you.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
It really has it really hasn't. It really has not
been a while because you're involved in two different texts
chains that I'm on, one with the Mulliwop guys and
one with Anders. So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 8 (31:14):
I'll give you a break.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
I do. I get my daily Philip Bent and you
get your daily phil Avians. So it's all good, all right,
walk us through it, Big day to day for our
first pro sports in our city.

Speaker 8 (31:26):
Long time coming, and the pw HL is a reality.
I think today showed that the league is ready for
this city, and this city is ready for this league.
So yeah, you mentioned it off the top. They're going
to be one of eight teams that they'll they'll be
competing in the pw HL Women's Hockey League, which lounged
sixteen months ago and has been a tremendous movement so far.

(31:51):
The reception has been phenomenal throughout the first six cities.
Vancouver was ushered in about one week ago. It is
now Seattle's turn, and I think just based on where
a lot of the the remarks and the feedback flowed
through today, there were two things that really showed that
this day was coming, and I was at one of them.

(32:13):
Number one was the rivalry series game about two years
ago between Team USA and Team Canada, which had over
fourteen thousand fans and at one point was it broke
the record for the largest women's hockey game for Team
USA on North America or on US soil. And then
this last year, about three months ago, the PWHL Takeover

(32:35):
Tour between Boston and Montreal that drew an over twelve
thousand fans, and so you could basically imagine that it
was a matter of time and this league walked away
from this building saying, Yep, it's a right parket, it
is a fertile market. We're ready here for this league
and let's go.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Thirty games? Is still I know it's twenty four games
the first season, it's thirty games last year. Is that right?
Are we still in a thirty game season.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
We're looking at Yeah, it'll be a thirty game season
coming up here for twenty twenty five and twenty six,
and then before that we do know that there will
be the entry draft coming up of the league on
June twenty fourth. That will take place. I want to
say it's going to be at a hard Rock Cafe
hotel set up at Ottawa. And then the expansion draft

(33:23):
is sometime in June that we're still waiting for it
for that day.

Speaker 3 (33:26):
Go off.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
All right, they're gonna play all their games at Climate Pledgerina.
Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (33:33):
That's what it sounds like. Yeah, so it sounds like
Climate Pledge Arena will be the permanent home my surface
here for the team. Now, there could be you know
a few maneuvers here and there, because you are operating
with an eighteen league that's got five teams on the
East coast Boston, Montreal, New York, et cetera. You have

(33:55):
one team plays in Saint Paul, Minnesota, and then you
have two teams out here in Seattle of Vancouver, and
every team is required to travel, so you can't have
Siana of Vancouver playing, you know, fifteen times a year.
So to get around that, Amy Sheer Through's the EVP
on the business side for the PWUHL, said that they

(34:16):
are looking at more takeover tour stops like this last
year and what they have through Seattle and other NHL
cities in Quebec, et cetera, and that would maybe even
kind of take a home game put it in a
neutral side type of games. So how many games they do,
we don't know yet. A matter of fact, they don't
even have ticket pricing out yet here for this team,

(34:37):
but step one has essentially been cleared here for this.

Speaker 1 (34:41):
I'll just give him a pro tip from a guy
that knows the Northwest just a little bit because I've
worked in a couple of markets, and Andrews, you would
probably back this up. Since your your daughter, your sister
is a member of the Thorns, correct of the of
the NWS they're nuts if they don't play a game
in Portland, Mike we can. I love the my favorite
chant on the world's Portland sucks, but I'll be honest

(35:01):
with you, like, they're crazy if they don't play a
game in Portland. Mikey, you do games down there. I've
done games down there for WHL. They support the Thorn.
I think the Thorns might be the best supported NWSL.
Take Yeah, Like, Mikey, don't you say Portland should either
have a game or those takeout one of those touring games,
or have a team at some point.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
Consider me one hundred percent right behind the movement for
the PWHL takeover tour game in Portland, Oregon, whether it's
gonna be at the Coliseum and they're gonna get renovated
seats out there for the Winterhawks, you know, for for
this next year, or if they can find a way
to squeeze us back into Motus Center. He and I've
called games down there. I still do. You've called games

(35:43):
down there as well, you know, on the TV side,
you and me, and when you can pack twelve thirteen
thousand fans at one of those two venues. It is
electrifying and I fully agree. I think Portland would draw
very well for that type of setup and that type
of takeover to our stop, and I think it can
make a big, big statement here for this league where

(36:04):
they may want to go.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Next final thing for you, Mikey, the this is not
a team owned by the crack and we should point
that out right. It's a the league is centrally owned
all that all the teams are owned by a single
uh entity ownership group.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (36:17):
So I had a great conversation with Amy Sheer separately
and we're gonna have that for an overtime podcast this
week coming up. And I asked her, I said, what's
what's been a big uh source of help to get
this league on solids putting in a way and the
one thing she pointed out to with single entity ownership,
so it's all wrung by by by Mark Walter, who

(36:39):
owns Los Angeles Dodgers, his wife as well as involved
in this. They put a lot of their money into
this year from the the Walter group. And so that's
what essentially is taken over here for this operation. So
the Crancket won't own the team, they'll they'll be involved
kind of like in a neighbor like setup, from you know,
sharing front of pledge arena to even sharing case I

(36:59):
as far as their training complex here. But that's up
to a lot of teams in this league, and Seattle
is going to be on the same on a very
very similar pudding as well.

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Great stuff, Mike. I'm sure you've got some stuff up
on the podcast page on the app as well. We
should be make sure you present that on the iHeartRadio app.
But great stuff today. Cover to that, my friend. Thank you,
plug plug plug away.

Speaker 8 (37:21):
And as I say, as I have a first time caller,
longtime listener, I will hang up and listen to your answer.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Yeah, if you don't want to hear what I have
to say about you, but I love you, buddy, love you,
talk to you soon. There you go. That is that
is our guy. He is the captain. His name is
Mike Benton, and he is a true treasure in American institution. Uh.
He's right though, Like I think both of us agree,

(37:47):
Mike and I have done a lot of hockey down
in Portland. I'm like, you've got to play down there.
I mean not just play down there, but you've got
to have a team down there at some point.

Speaker 2 (37:57):
We have the Blazers when it comes to professional sports, correct, well,
they have the pickles and the thorns and the timber
when it and the Timbers, I guess I was thinking
of the Big Four of the Big Four, right, So
it's not flooded like we are here in Seattle where
we have a lot of major sports.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
And they've got they're getting. The WNBA is starting there
twenty twenty six, I believe it is. Is WNBA franchise
down Allan too, so I think I think that'll be
the next step. This is a great deal today, So
congratulations PWHL. THEPWHL dot com as a website, and as
Mike said, ticket information is not out yet. I checked
as well, heard the same thing, so they don't have
that out yet as well. All right, Greg co sal
joins us talking Seahawk Draft coming up next.

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(39:04):
Playoffs one elimination last night took place Carolina, knocking out
the Devils four games to one. There are a couple
games tonight in the National Hockey League playoffs. Capital's trying
to eliminate the Canadians a lead three to one in
that series. Lightning need to win otherwise Florida can win
that series. The Panthers leading three games to one, b
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(39:24):
games apiece as well. NBA same thing. Two teams were
elimited last night, Bucks getting knocked out of the playoffs
by the Pacers and the Celtics knock out the Magic
with their win. Lakers need to win tonight to stay
alive in their series against the Timberwolves of Minnesota. What
does Great cosl say that the tape says about the

(39:44):
Seahawk Draft. Here he is.

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Speaker 1 (40:02):
All right here he is Greg Cosell. Ladies and gentlemen,
boys and girls, and this would be the final visits
of the year, well of the spring. Well, well we will.
We will get a hold of him again at some
point late summer, early September to resume. But I know, Greg,
you're broken hearted, you're distraught, You're sad. This is the

(40:25):
last time we're doing a weekly for a while because
the draft is over.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Are you okay? Can I do you need condolence? As
a hog? What do you need here, buddy?

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Well, just if I fall asleep while we're doing this,
just yell at me.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I think you'll be fine. I think you'll be fine
when it's all said and done. Well, we've we've really
appreciated this all year. It's you know, obviously the weekly
things on Fridays before the Seahawks play, we give you
a couple months off and then we go heavy heart
into the draft and and your draft analysis and preview
and the show we did last week with Hugh and
you was fantastic, and people loved it. So we'll do

(40:57):
that again during the Sea bye week next year too,
if we can.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, And I'd just hey, you know,
I love talking ball. It's no problem at all.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
All right, let's get to it. Let's talk ball, let's
talk Seahawks football. We'll go through some of the specific
players in a second, but in general terms, you know,
you know the Seahawks roster, Mike McDonald enough and we've
talked about it with you and you and I for
a long time, especially their topics, Gray's Abel Emana Warre Arroyo, Milrow, Mills, etc.

(41:27):
Torry Horton, all those guys. In general terms, before we
get specifics with players, what do you think about Seattle's draft?

Speaker 5 (41:34):
Yeah, and just so and you probably know this anyway, Ian,
but the only way I can evaluate a draft, it's
based on how how I evaluated the players. I don't
get caught up and did they reach? Did they do that?
Because to me, if you say, oh, well they reached,
what you're saying is I'm smarter than the thirty people
that were involved in that organization, you know, making the

(41:55):
you know that went through all this, that have people
that do it. You know that's their life's work, So
I don't, you know, I don't. I don't feel comfortable
ever seeing anything like that because I know how hard
I work, so I know how how thirty people for
an organization work. So all I can say is that, hey,
here's how I evaluated the players, and based on my evaluations,

(42:16):
I really like their draft. Now there are a couple
of guys I didn't see obviously, you know, because I
can't see five hundred guys. I'm one persons, as you know,
but I've seen the large majority, and you know, and
the other thing people should should keep in mind is
as you get later in the draft, you know, that's
when you start to get into players that you know

(42:36):
could make the team, could not make the team. There's
a reason they're drafted later. And they didn't have a
fourth round pick, and they had three fifth round picks,
so you know, when you start to get to the
fifth round. Even though two of those picks I find
very interesting that I kind of liked on tape, you know,
you have to understand that their fifth round picks for
a reason.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
I'm gonna go I'm gonna get crazy here a little bit, Greg,
because instead of going to the top of the draft.
Let me go near the end because you mentioned some
of the guys at the end, and one guy we
talked about on the show on Monday, even talked about
when we were at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center at
CIA Corps last week. Damien Martinez was, you know, one
of their last picks, a seventh round pick two and

(43:15):
twenty third overall. From now. He's from Miami but via
Oregon State, so we're very familiar with watching him play.
Cougar fans and Husky fans up here know all too
well about Damien Martinez. And I mentioned this Greg on
the air the other day. I I like, you know,
Zach Scharbeney came in this league with this kind of
thought that he's a bruising, you know, yards after contact
guy and all that type of stuff, short yardage guy.

(43:36):
I haven't really seen that as much. I know this
watching in college. I saw a lot of that at
Damien Martinez, like too much for my Wazoo heart to
handle at times, and same with Husky fans too.

Speaker 9 (43:46):
Well.

Speaker 5 (43:47):
Well, it's funny because I watched him last summer when
he was at Oregon State, and so you've seen that,
and that's what you're referring to. And then of course
I watched him again at the U this year. He
was to me, again simply based on my evaluation, one
of the rising picks as to where he was taken, because,
to be honest with you, I think, depending on your
team and scheme, and that's what so much about this

(44:08):
league is about. Coaches talk about scheme adaptability, but so
depending on team and scheme, I think Damian Martinez could
actually be a feature back in the league.

Speaker 1 (44:18):
Now.

Speaker 5 (44:18):
I don't think he was drafted by the Seahawks to
be a feature back, but in my view, I think,
and I don't think it's that close. To be honest
with you, I just think he's a better runner than
Zach Sharbonay. Now I can't speak to all the other
elements past protection, other factors that go into why you
play a player versus why you don't play a player,
but to me, Damian Martinez is a better runner than

(44:40):
Zach Charboney and I'm very anxious to see how that
plays out. Now, being a seventh round pick again, you know,
then you wonder about the opportunities he may or may
not get in camp because they have charbon Ay, They've
got Kenny McIntosh, who's a totally different back obviously than
Damian Martinez and will probably make the roster because there's

(45:02):
no other back like him on the roster. But but boy,
I was really surprised that Davey Martinez lasted until what
the two hundred and twenty third pick, something along those lines.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Yeah, that's and I was surprised too. And it was
one of those ones when they got it got you know,
when it got picked, I'm like, wow, he was still available.
That's weird, like that was that was kind of strange
to me. So yeah, I'm kind of curious about that too.
It is our friend Greg Cosell. He is joining us
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(45:32):
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Then Grey's Abel played literally every position. It felt like
in college. They probably project him as a left guard.
He was their first round pick and it was a
John Schneider, let's go get something that we need, and

(45:53):
that's an interior offensive lineman.

Speaker 5 (45:55):
Yeah, I mean that was that was a you know, again,
I don't know where he was on their board. I'm
sure he was close to that point, you know, you
hope he wasn't the fortieth player on their board and
they take him eighteenth. But that's clearly a position of need.
You knew he's going to move inside, either to garter
center because his arm length is meaningfully below the NFL
standard for the offensive tackle position. But I got to

(46:17):
tell you he was an interesting guy to watch because
you could tell just watching him that either he's coached
really well or and that he takes to coaching really well,
because everything he did was sort of technically sound, you know,
and with what I really loved watching his tape. And again,
he played tackle in college and he's not going to

(46:37):
play that in the league. And everybody knew that, you know,
as they evaluated him. I thought his run blocking, both
at the first level and the second level were really good,
low pad level leverage. He had lyft that's what you want,
you want to lift when you hit guys.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
He had.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I thought his out his timing on on combo blocks
getting to the then second level was really good. That's
kind of an innate thing, that timing to do that.
He's got power, he's got physicality, he's got mobility, he's
got competitive toughness, he's relentless. You know, he's just one
of those guys to me that I feel like, Okay,

(47:14):
this guy's just gonna be a good player. I mean,
I can't sit here and say he's gonna be an
All pro he's going to be the you know, the
best guard in the league. But he's an excellent prospect.
And just his consistency of execution, with his efficiency, his fundamentals,
you know, in many ways, he was like Graham Barton
last year who was a left tackle at Duke and
became the starting center from day one for the Bucks

(47:37):
and had a nice season. He's he's just a good
football player, and I think he'll be successful in the league.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
Greg. Do you see traits on him on film of
him being able to play center?

Speaker 5 (47:50):
You know, to be honest, I'm not an expert on that.
I'm just being honest as to you know, but I
knew he was going to move inside, so you know,
I think I ended up I transition by saying that
he possessed the traits and playing personality to become a
starter at guard or center in his rookie season. So again,
then it comes down to scheme. I think he's a

(48:10):
better prospect and player than and now I'm losing track
of his name the Michigan the kid from Michigan who
ended up starting at center last year. Later ol Timmy,
Ola Timmy, Old Timmy. That's right, Sorry about that. I
just couldn't place it for a second, Old Timmy. I
think he's a better player than ol of Timmy. So
I think if if they wanted to make him the
center and they went head to head in competition, I

(48:32):
think he'd win the job.

Speaker 1 (48:33):
All right, is our friend Greg Cosell Seahawks John Schneider
traded up in the second round. They had a lot
of draft capital to work with, and he started moving.
That's when his maneuvering started. He went up and he
got a safety. Nicki Monta Worri is a guy out
of South Carolina who is big, fast, physical, had a
great combine all those things. And we know that Mike

(48:55):
McDonald likes to play big nickel at times. And three
safeties out there, they got love and Kobe Bryant already
do you think of that pick?

Speaker 5 (49:02):
Loved it. He was my number one safety in the draft.
And I understand why the Friss the Ravens didn't take
him when they took Starts, I think at twenty seven
because they were looking for just a pure post safety
and him and warr is not just a pure post safety.
But to me, he was the best safety prospect in
this draft. I mean, I'm sure a lot of people
have spoken about the similarities in the in McDonald's defense

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to Kyle Hamilton in Baltimore, and I think those that
is a valid similarity point to make this guy's a
multi demendal safety prospect. He he's a freakish athlete. He's
six to three in an eighth two twenty ran a
four to three eight. He vertical jumped forty three, he
brought jumped eleven six and then he plays like Dunct tape.

(49:43):
So I thought this was a great, great pick. And
again we talked about this all through the draft process
when we were just talking in general bal in general
about defense. I am really excited to see the Seahawks
defense this year. I mean, this to me could be
one of the best defenses in the league. Mean, and
I think they have really good players, you know, and

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they've got a lot of guys who who are just
good at what they do. They might not be like
DeMarcus Lawrence, may not be the same player he was
four years ago, but he's a good player, you know.
But em and Warri, to me, I'm really curious to
see how he's deployed early on because to me, he'll
end up being the starting safety Knicks to love. Now,
that may not happen week one. Maybe they'll play some

(50:25):
big nickel as you suggested, Ian, But I loved his
tape and when I saw him at the combine and
saw the way he moved in person, you know, up
close and personal, it just validated what I saw on tape.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Yeah, It's one of those things that with him, I think,
you know, the obvious comparisons in Seattle because of his
size were Cam, and he mentioned Cam on draft night.
He was very well aware of the lob and what
Cam Chancellor was.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
But and then obviously the Hamilton comparison and what McDonald
likes to do that, you know. Kobe Bryant had a
strong second half of the season. Julian loves a pro bowler,
So they've got some option, is there with Witherspoon. They
can keep him on the outside if they want, right,
I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot. He gives
you options. I like what you said about the defense too,
in this sense, Uh, it gives it. They have a
bunch of they don't have a bunch of all pros.

(51:11):
They don't have an All pro probably on their team,
but they've got some bunch of guys that are good
at what they need to be good at in that defense, right.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
Yeah, And and McDonald's obviously a really good defensive coach
who knows how to deploy his personnel. But you know when, then,
when when I was at home watching this on on
Friday night and they made that trade, Now, I didn't
immediately say I'm not gonna act like boy, I'm that
smart and say oh, they're going to take him and Warden.
As soon as I heard the name, I was like, oh, wow,
that that that makes absolutely perfect sense. And I thought

(51:40):
it was a great pick. And and again because I
really liked the player on tape, I mean I thought
he was worthy of being a first round selection in
this particular.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Draft, we give him a couple of the guys. Elijah
Royal is a tight end out of Miami. He's not
your blocking type of tight end. He's your pass catching
type of tight end. Correct, Is that what you see
on tape with this guy?

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Well, don't forget he did have to block, see, you know,
That's what I remember over the years having great conversations
with coaches talking about blocking for tight ends, and one
of the things they always said is that as long
as a guy is willing to block, okay, you can
teach him to become a better blocker. I remember talking
to a coach who was with the Kansas City Chiefs

(52:20):
when Tony Gonzalez came in the league, and he said Gonzalez,
in terms of like technique and those kinds of things,
was terrible. But he said he was willing to block,
and he became a good blocker, you know, because he
was willing to do it. Now, keep in mind that Miami,
because they did have Damien Martinez, they did run a
lot of what you'd call pro running game concepts, and

(52:40):
so Arroyo did block. I mean he was he was
a featured blocker in their run game. I mean it
wasn't as if he didn't block. So is that the
best thing he does that you're going to say is
the best blocking tight end? No, but he did block.
But the thing that he was the best at of
all the tight ends, including Warren in Loveland, is he
was the most vertically explosive tight end in this draft.

(53:04):
And I'm sure that was one thing they considered because
you know, Fan has not proven to be that guy,
even though coming out of college in Iowa people thought
he might be that guy, but that has not happened
in the league. And the other thing about Arroyo was
he's location versatile within the formation. They were snaps at
boundary X in college. I mean, he was a motion

(53:25):
receiver in college as well. But this guy, I mean,
I forget who was against but he had a seventy
five yard touchdown where he caught an inbreaking route and
he and he just turned on the Jets and he
can he can go. Now, this guy, he's a vertical
dimension and he's a run after catch dimension.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
We say with the receiver, I'll get back to the
quarterback in a second. I'll wrap it up with the
Jaylen Millroe in a moment. But Tory Horton is a
receiver out of Coloriado State, and they you and I
talked about it, Hugh, and you and I talked about it.
They needed an next guy. Is this an ex receiver?

Speaker 5 (53:59):
I guess we're gonna fight because you know, he had
a shortened season in twenty twenty four because he was injured,
but he showed I watched him last summer from his
twenty twenty three tape when he caught I think ninety
six balls. I mean, he's got a sleek, long frame,
he's got stride length, he's got build up speed. He
can be a vertical dimension. It's very, very possible.

Speaker 9 (54:21):
You know.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
I made the point when I finished watching him that
I think early in his career he would be best
be deployed as a movement's ear slot, where he has
more free access off the line of scrimmage and can
generate stride length, you know, and build up speed to
be a weapon on on movement type routes, you know, crossers,
those kinds of routes. And then I said, as he
gains more experience in a better field for corners and coverage,

(54:44):
it is possible he could become a factor at boundary
X but then he'd have to defeat press coverage better
than we've seen now that can happen. You know, none
of these guys are finished products. But he's an interesting guy.
I mean, he's six two and a half, he's won
ninety six. He ran well, his vertical jump was really good.
The athleticism is there in his body, and he could

(55:06):
well become a boundary X down the road.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Riley Mills missed some time last year with Notre Dame.
Kind of a penetrating defensive and defensive lineman that can
kind of play a couple of places, right.

Speaker 5 (55:15):
Yeah, he's a glue guy. You know, he's not a
big time pass rusher. I liked his tape a lot.
I watched him last year. This year, he's a glue guy.
He's one of those guys you love to have on
your team. You know you're going to get in tremendous competitiveness,
the work ethic, the individual all those things. You know,
he's just in some ways. I bet he's similar in
some ways to Jared Reed. That would be my guess,

(55:38):
And he probably has a similar football character. I don't
know either player. You've told me about Jared Reed and
the football character that he has. I would bet Riley
Mills is very very similar.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yeah, I'm a Jared Reid fan, all right. I saved
the most talked about guy for last Jalen Milroe for
the third time. Greg for just the third time in
sixteen years. Our guy John Schnet drafted a quarterback, and
this time there was also a third rounder. Twice in
the third round, one guy was named Russ. The other
guy name is Jalen Milroe from Alabama.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
Yeah, just a quick point about Milroe. A lot of
people thought he had a down year because he didn't
hit as many deep balls as he did in twenty
twenty three. But actually thought, in watching his tape, and
he was a guy I knew that would be polarizing,
so I watched a ton of his tape. I actually
thought he was better this year than in twenty twenty three.
It's just that he missed some deep balls which made
it look like he wasn't better. But I thought in

(56:33):
terms of some of the nuances and subtleties of playing
the position, he was better. But think of it this way.
What has become such a big factor in the NFL,
and you see it with a team like the Eagles.
You know, obviously Super Bowl champs. Design quarterback run game
in the red zone that has become such a big
factor in the league. And Milroe can absolutely give you that.

(56:54):
This guy is an incredibly dynamic, explosive runner. He's faster
than Lamar's more explosive than Lamar as a pure straight
line runner. And you know, the game is situational football.

Speaker 8 (57:07):
Now.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
He's not going to play in you know, third and
ten in the middle of the field, but you get
in the red zone and this guy can become a factor.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
They reassigned Drew Lock since we last spoke to a
two year contract. It feels like Drew Lock will be
the backup quarterback. But Mike McDonald told us in the
press conference after they drafted Milrow, he said, Hey, Sam
donalds are starting quarterback, but he's and he mentioned he
made this mention, and I think it caught all of
our attention because when we in the heat of the moment,
when the draft pick has made, you know how it is, Greg,

(57:35):
it's live radio. I'm with Hugh Millen and Rob Rang
We're going all around and we're all starting to kind
of envision the mill Roll thing. After resigning Locke and
what you just said, design quarterback runs. For a second,
is he a Taysom Hill. No, he's not a Taysom
Hill because he's not. He's going to play quarterback. In fact,
McDonald said McDonald's paraphrase McDonald he said, no, he's a quarterback.
He's going to play quarterback. Sam Donald's is going to

(57:55):
be our quarterback for about ninety percent of the snaps,
which leads me to believe Drew Locks your primary backup.
But Milroe would be active and ready to go for
what you just said, and that would be some design
quarterback runs red Zoner otherwise.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Yeah, I mean, and I can understand that point. And
I think we know the game is situational football, and
it's those kinds of situations that dictate wins and losses
in a league that's close that you know, where games
are usually close. And you know, again this is not
a profound statement, but we know how important scoring touchdowns
in the red zone is and I think that that's

(58:29):
where Milroe becomes a big, big factor. I mean, this
guy and plus his body type, he's really he's put together.
So you know, I don't think Drew Lock's getting time
when he says mc donald's getting ninety percent. I think
that's more about Jaln Milroe in situational football.

Speaker 1 (58:44):
Can you see Milroe's passing ability as human will to say,
if throwing on time, accurately to the right person and
all that stuff. Can you see that improving to the
level of being a starting quarterback in the NFL?

Speaker 5 (58:57):
Can I see it?

Speaker 3 (58:58):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Does that mean it's going to happen? That's impossible to know.
But I do know somebody in the Alabama office football office,
and I'm told that Milroe is incredibly intelligent, almost too intelligent.
He thinks the game too much. And that's why that
you know, sometimes he's late with throws because he just
thinks it. You know, he's too much is going on
in his brain. And that he's a phenomenal kid. He's

(59:21):
just want you know that there's something special about the kid.
So we'll see how he develops. Obviously, the traits are present.
I'm talking about the physical traits. Obviously there's quarterback traits
which you know, the subtleties of the position which clearly
need to be worked on, and and you know, we'll
see how much time that takes. But you know, i'd

(59:42):
be hard pressed to say that he can't become a
good player. You know, he's Look, he's a third round
pick for a reason. If everybody thought that it was
an automatic ian that he'd become a great quarterback, he
wouldn't have been a third round pick. So you have
to understand that he's a third round pick for a reason.
So that means there's a question as to what his
development will be. So now it comes down to coaching

(01:00:04):
and the player and how it all works together.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
That's what makes it fun. Especially in the summer months.
We're sitting out there and we're watching training camp, mini camps,
ot is all that other fun stuff as well. I
tell you this often and I truly mean it. This
is one of my favorite things we do on the
radio show and the radio station. The feedback we get
is fantastic as well, and I know you only do
a handful of these across the country, So we feel
lucky to have a chance to talk to Great Cosel

(01:00:27):
every week during the season and then obviously leading up
to the draft as well. Maybe just maybe you can
walk away from the computer and the screens and the
video and the tape and take a deep breath. And
relax for a day or two. My friends.

Speaker 5 (01:00:40):
Well, you know it's funny. I finished watching something I
had to watch at about noon today my time, and
I said to myself, you know, I don't really know
what to do right now when I'm feeling awkward that
I didn't have something that I had to do like immediately,
you know, and I just I don't know what to do.
I'm feeling kind of weird.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
Here, take a walk, read a book, say how to
your friend's family wife whatever, I mean, just do something, sir,
you need, you need a break. But we do appreciate
all the effort you put in, and especially it's you know,
Seattle specific and all of that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
And we will now no guarantee that we won't call,
just won't call you between now and the start of
the next season and I catch up. Yes, yeah, there's
no yeah, but one of those one of those times,
she may be calling and say, hey, ian Ian really
needs to have you on for X, Y or Z,
So we may we may bug you again in the summer,
but for the most part, we'll We'll give you some

(01:01:34):
time and then check back in with week one of
the NFL season.

Speaker 5 (01:01:38):
All right, I'll be ready to go. You can count
on that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
I appreciate it. Thank you so much, Greg.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Thanks Greg.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
Thanks that is a Greg co Selle huge Thanks to
Seattle Cider as well for bringing you Greg Cosell. More
to come. We'll check the text line next. Ninety three
point three kJ FM.

Speaker 9 (01:01:57):
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Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
All right, let's go check the text line. It's the
unrestricted free agent text line at four nine four five one.

Speaker 4 (01:02:28):
Are you sure it's not restricted free agent?

Speaker 1 (01:02:30):
It's not. There's no offer sheet here, there's no offer
sheet here. It's unrestricted right now. It's there for the taking.
This is not like Matthew Nyes or anything like that.
Go get him to match, yeah right now on this station. Yeah. Uh,
restricted offer sheet nys today, tampering who cares him?

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
And Cocko on the wings.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Oh yeah, there to dream. Yeah. So I meant to
ask about this on Monday, but spaced, didn't you guys
see the mel Kuiper meltown about Shie or Sander's going
in the fifth and how competent the NFL is evaluating
quarterbacks out of college. He was big, Matt Lol. Okay,
I'm reading that text. I'm trying to figure out, are
you on Kuiper's side and thinking the NFL is incompetent
at evaluating quarterbacks at a college? I think that's what

(01:03:17):
I read there. Let me just comment with this. Rob
Rang had the best line Saturday morning. He said if
any team thought he was a surefire starting quarterback, they
would not have passed on him in rounds one, two,
and three. And he said that in the middle of
round four, and they again passed him on round four.

(01:03:38):
So I don't think it's the NFL being incompetent the Kuiper.
I think with the Sanders world, there's you're on team
Dion or you're not kuiper Is, obviously, and that's fine.
I mean everyone's your opinions are based on relationships. There's
no such thing as objectivity. I laugh when people say

(01:03:59):
they're objective. No one's objective. You can't be objectivities.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
If you're a human.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Objectivity is impossible. If you're a human being, you can
you can aspire to it. You can try to be it.
But you know, journalists the holier than now, journalists that
I always say that we're objective, you know, writers and
so forth, and print guys. I'm like, you're not. You
have your built in biases. You're a human being. You
can't be in kind of have opinions too well, but
you're not. They try not to. I get that you

(01:04:24):
can't not. Deep down, you are going to write something
or say something based on how you feel, and in
the case of Kuiper, he feels strongly about the Sanders family.
Now everyone passed on this guy. I asked Rob a question,
and we'll have Robbie either this Friday or the following Friday,
kind of depending on scheduling and stuff. Again, some Seahawk

(01:04:46):
rookies we're gonna get on as well on Friday, so
we're kind of dancing around some things. But I asked Rob,
I said, and I said, maybe it's Hugh.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
I asked.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
I said, if if shid Or Sanders's name was Joe
Smith from the University.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Of Virginia, you did you asked it if he was
actually from Nevada.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Nevada, that's right, yeah, because would he be drafted would
be talking about this. The answer is no. You know,
he went Hugh broke down his footwork and some other
things that were red flags. He was a mid round
pick at best, and that's where he went. So, you know,
I don't think the NFL is incompetent and evaluating quarterbacks.

(01:05:24):
I think quarterback position is incredibly difficult and hard, and
the transition from college to the pro game is massive,
really challenging, really hard to do. So no, and then
you're also sometimes in that position, you're taking a flyer
on guys and saying, what's the upside? Right, Well, Jaylen Milroe,
you just started ring co sell pretty big upside like

(01:05:46):
like because of like the ceiling is really high, the
basement's not too low because because he can do some
things for you, and the ceiling could be through the roof.
So yeah, man, I don't know. I don't I don't
buy into the fact that they're incompetent and evaluating quarterbale.

Speaker 10 (01:06:04):
We haven't talked a ton of chadur on here. I
just to me, it's just a question of you know,
whether his relationship with his dad or his last name
or however you want to put it. Uh, made him
a lower draft pick than he should have been or
is his last name make him?

Speaker 3 (01:06:21):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (01:06:21):
People just overestimated because of his game was a story
because of who he were.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Exactly, well, he was a story because of where he went,
because of who he is. Also, like, if we go
back to Colorado, then that's why he got put on
the map in the first place. Drum's Hunter was the
story there, and then you know Dion made Colorado the thing,
and that's what made Shador think.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
The NFL doesn't care about you. The media does like
and who you are and where you come from. The
great example is that Mike White, right is the past
rusher from West Virginia, got some red flags all over him.
Mike Mike Green, Sorry Mike Green, Mike Green. It was
a four quarterback in Virginia. Actually, Mike Green a couple

(01:07:04):
three allegations of domestic violence. He denied it. They said
they did their due diligence, while every team does their
due diligence. Sure he did whatever, but they did the
Bolden Kit I think a text has had some similar
allegations against him. See the NFL that if you can play,
they don't care. If you've got to you know this,
this or this if you can play. If Shadoor had
the athleticism and the arm strength of JALN. Milroe, I

(01:07:28):
think he would have gone I'm sure he would have
gone higher. He doesn't just listen to our guy QB
One Hugh Millen for a millisecond, who likes Dion Sanders,
by the way, who likes dial Yeah, there's not an
anti sad by the way. No, I'm not a mil
Kiper sites text. Okay, I don't know how to read that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
But that's fine, going well, that is our first text
that came in where you couldn't tell yes going down
to Kuyper. Though, a lot of these guys put their
reputations on the line when are high on somebody, so
they're going to defend what they had said earlier when
what they predicted didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Sometimes you're wrong. It's okay to say you're wrong sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
And mel Is I worked with mel a long time ago,
and he is not a super defensive guy. But I
can see being in that position, getting that way where
you don't believe what you thought would happen didn't happen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
There's so many guys that do the draft thing now
that are really really good at it. Kuyper was the first.
I'm gonna I love John Clayton, God rest his soul.
John Clayton was the first, kind of the first. Him
and Chris Mortenson. They were the first insiders breaking news
and all.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
That that weren't former athletes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
Right, no, but but the newsbreakers. They were the first insiders.

Speaker 3 (01:08:44):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
As time went on, others came along that were younger,
did the job differently, arguably did it better, and that evolved.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
That world evolved, well he did with social media.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
I think it was a big part.

Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Of right, it evolved. I think you could say the
same thing about that. At one time Kuyper was the
only guy. He was the man he was. He was
a one man show. Nailed it for a while, but
he was the only guy. Yes, correct, Kuyper was Kyper,
the mic Shane Kuiper. But then all of a sudden
you start getting others, the Dame Bruglers of the world,
and all the you know, our guy rang and all
of a sudden it became a bigger thing. More people

(01:09:21):
started doing it, and maybe it's sometimes you just you
just get phased out. And so that's whye Kuyper did
his thing. He's got to do his thing. I got it.
But he was wrong with Shooto or sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Hey, and he was wrong. But I respect the fact
that he stuck to with guns at the same time,
you know, I don't agree with him, but he was very,
very steadfast.

Speaker 1 (01:09:45):
He was heels and it was over. Final one from
our guy, Keith Miller. He gets a final word as normal.
Best part about the NFL season consisting of more than
just the games. He's getting Greg co sell for eight months,
the best Guess You book, in my opinion, thank you.
We're lucky to have Greg. I think he does five markets,
six markets.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
He told me five. Yes, he only does by because
he wants to make sure he has the time to
spend with each one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
And he does a couple of national shows. I think
he's just still does Colin Show and that's where I
first met him, when I was filling in for Colin
in Portland. But he's We're we're all lucky. We're lucky
to have Greg. He's great, he's fun. My two favorite
shows that we've done with him are the ones with
you One of the Fall. Yeah, we just did two
weeks ago, and I think I mentioned that to Greg.
We'll do that again in the fall during the bye
week with you and him. It's just just let them

(01:10:28):
talk fall and it's specially and I can tell you
we tape it because it just goes on and on
and on, and we could probably do two days of
shows and I might just take two days off in
the bye weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
That sounds good. One last shout out from our text line. Yeah, yeah,
I noticed this week that one of our best Texers, Marcus,
it's his birthday tomorrow, and I know that you won't
be here with us. We have Greg Bell filling in
from Rickey Minniicam tomorrow and I thought you might want
to say happy birthday to market.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Happy birthday, Marcus. We love you. We appreciate you listening
and texting every day very much. So we saw him.
I saw him a couple of years ago, the Mayor
and Maple or the Mayor IPA release, good dude, we
love our guys like Marcus. That listened on.

Speaker 4 (01:11:05):
Also recently, one than Malon Millen mocked, I heard that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Yeah, yes, exactly. All right, so you right come back
checking with Softy next. All right, softies here, let me
just mention something real quick. It was made much. A

(01:11:30):
couple of guys made mentioned this to me. Federway baseball coach.
Actually Thomas Jefferson High School baseball coach. Joe Townsend had
been the coach there since two thousand and nine. Highly
thought of beloved died last night of a massive heart
attack at the age of fifty two.

Speaker 5 (01:11:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
He'd been coaching Raiders baseball for two and a half decades.
He's from Brooklyn, New York. Just talking to some coaches
that had coached against them, some people in the NPSL
and others in the baseball community. It is a really,
really difficult and I just wanted to give a shout
out to to I mean, there's not enough Joe Townshend's
in the world as it is today, with great high
school coaches and just great mentors of young people. Joe

(01:12:10):
Townsend was one of those. So thoughts go out to
the Thomas Jefferson High School community and the baseball community,
especially in the South Sound, who all were very close
to uh to him, So, uh, condolence is there. I
don't like to always start with down stuff, Dave, but
I want to say that is very sad. I want
to mention that. Kudos to you for mentioning that. And
now I get to go on the air. Yes, now
we got to do the transition do what?

Speaker 5 (01:12:31):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Hi? How are you? How are you? How are you?
How are you? How are always different? It's you.

Speaker 11 (01:12:38):
You end the updates with stories like that, and you
have transition to some hard to do. It's hard to do.
That's stinks, man. I mean, he's my age. I'll be
fifty two in August, for God's sake in four months.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
Right, So that stuff happens all the time.

Speaker 11 (01:12:50):
Self checked out, make sure everything's ticking properly to young lady.

Speaker 2 (01:12:56):
Hey, I get poked in prodding quite a bit.

Speaker 11 (01:12:58):
Yes, okay, context to that, Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
I go to the doctor.

Speaker 11 (01:13:03):
Thank you very much for that. Then he flips on
the radio. The first thing they hear.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
You wanted a good transitions going on, You wanted a
good segway. She gave it to you right there. She
can I sue her for making me uncomfortable? Is that
a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
I will put that on my resume, as.

Speaker 11 (01:13:21):
I always tell her, you can go to the HR department.
Well that's land, by the way, is the HR department?
Is she really for she speaks for the HR department
in San Antonio. She does what I've been told. At
least have you had true you had to go there
already a deal. I filed many complaints.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
You are the.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Dwight True Jim complaint closet that is actually just a warehouse.

Speaker 1 (01:13:41):
Fin I used to have. We used to actually have
any short apartment Barbara Bye.

Speaker 11 (01:13:46):
And then they decided that was no longer necessary because
we're all saints around here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Everyone quits around you.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
I think what it was is softie, is right. I
think they looked around and said, there's no need for
HR here for this. These guys are all perfect, they're angels,
and if.

Speaker 11 (01:14:00):
They're not, nobody should know about what's going on over there,
so just keep it quiet.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
I think it's more that I think back in the day,
when you guys like the old old building two buildings ago,
two buildings ago, is when you really needed it. Well,
you've been in this business longer than I have, but
you have no idea, man, Is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
That what I hated you?

Speaker 1 (01:14:15):
No, this is two buildings ago when I hate you.
This is this is before. This is like two thousand
and three or two something like that. When did you
guys move to three fifty uh. Dick and I were
at the final four in Detroit when we moved to
three fifty one, so fifteen years ago, I think sixteen
years ago. Yeah, I was longer than that.

Speaker 11 (01:14:34):
Yeah, because I got here those six and you guys
were there when was the Michigan State Uh final four.
That's when we had Plexico Burists on the air and
I asked him if you shot himself in the leg.

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
No you didn't. Yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 11 (01:14:48):
It was around the end of the oughts, if you will,
the start of the two thousand.

Speaker 1 (01:14:52):
Stories from old KJR that god like the HR stories
and radio Yeah, I mean w k RP and since
an it was based on factual events. We never threw
turkeys out of a plane though, so no, we never
did that. That would have been tame compared to what
we did exactly.

Speaker 11 (01:15:08):
I mean we used to have four or five inner
office relationships going on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Oh my gosh, back when, back when we were at
one ninety. My wife was one of them. Yes, I
mean I met my wife here, your first or my
second one? You putt whats wrong with you?

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
I don't know you married people within the buildings. So
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
It was miss miss Gina was it was the wife
he's referring to. So, well, Glenn met his wife?

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
You won this freaking Yeah?

Speaker 11 (01:15:35):
His name, I'm aware, CEO guy, he's very we have CrossFit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:41):
CrossFit is his official time. I called market president president?
What is what is Rich's role? What's purple sheets role?
Nobody knows?

Speaker 11 (01:15:48):
Well, he was the program director for what I first
started working here thirty one years ago, thirty one he
was the assistant program or the assistant promotions director.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Now what is he now?

Speaker 11 (01:15:58):
He's I don't know, boss. You know what's the title? Hey,
do we really we introduce him?

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
What do we say?

Speaker 2 (01:16:04):
Market program director?

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Okay, hey do we really know he's a boss? He's
my boss? I sure, yeah, i'mre And he just tells
you that I can show you the marks to prove it.

Speaker 11 (01:16:14):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
What are you doing today? Petro speaking of HR? Oh yeah,
they on this afternoon.

Speaker 11 (01:16:23):
Also Mike Florio speaking of HR. He'll join us the
boughtole himself at three ten. And then Larry Stone, who
never I mean, if there's ever a guy who never
got accused of wrongdoing in the workplace, Yeah, it's Larry Stone.

Speaker 1 (01:16:35):
There's one of those guys you kind of don't like
because he's such a good dude, like really having you
know what.

Speaker 11 (01:16:40):
Though, Guys like that, they gotta they got a side
to them, man, they got a dark side that people
don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
About and we don't talk about because he is a saint,
all right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
It's like Jackson, something creepy is going on there. Man,
something's going on. It's awesome. Hey, that's what you think.
Report him to. HR twenty one reported HR yeah for
the mild mannered and marginally objectionable in for no Us,
this is paddle day, saying so long everyone,

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