Furness Show 5-1: Gregg Bell in for Ian Furness, Eno Sarris, Corbin Smith.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Beautiful day here for the rookies to report. The veterans
are doing conditioning on the field. The veterans six are
in the second week of their offseason conditioning program, and
the rookies are coming in now for the first time.
Many of them have never been in this building before.
About half of the ones that are going to be
in this rookie mini camp Friday, Saturday, and Sunday won't

(00:20):
even be on the team their tryout guys. There's some
undrafted rookie free agents who right away, even after you've
signed them maybe to low cost deals, show them either
they're not in shape, or they can't grasp an NFL
pace of a practice or an NFL playbook, and they'll
go away. But the draft picks, of course, here we go,
and they had eleven of them, so and they'll they'll

(00:41):
keep about a half dozen or so of their undrafted guys.
They've already paid a couple hundred thousands of dollars to
a couple, and when you start paying a couple hundred
thousand dollars the guys you'd even drafted, they're probably gonna
stick around two. But this weekend is really for acclimation
to the pro lifestyle to our guys in shape. Are
they able to conduct the practice pace that the NFL wants,

(01:02):
that the Seahawks coaches want. Are they able to at
least the beginnings of the terminology in an NFL playbook.
They don't give a much jessamine for the playbook because
as I said, so many of them aren't even going
to be on the team that they don't want to
give away their secrets.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
And then those guys, well, exactly right, So if they're
not going to be with this team, you know, feasibly
they could get picked up in some one else's camp.
And I've heard off the record from other coaches who
are in the league that that is something that they're
not opposed to doing. Yeah, so exactly, Bryce Rippin, exactly,

(01:37):
it's not a state secret, but they're not going to
make it look like that. And so yeah, we're not
going to see a lot I think, you know, like
you had said earlier in cross talk with Mark James,
that we're going to see guys just working out.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
They're learning the weight room.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
They are the guys who are projected to be on
this team will start to go to meetings and learn
a moderate amount of the playbook, but we're not going
to see anything really real until this summer, but we
will have. Gray's Abel is going to hold his first
press conference today, and I know he joined our morning
show yesterday, which was great, but I will hear from

(02:13):
him in a more formal setting today at three thirty.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
I was on the radio in Pierre, South Dakota, his hometown,
last couple of days ago, and man, are they excited
about Gray's Abel being on the Seahawks and a first
round pick. And there are a lot of people into
Dakotas that are excited about Jalen Sendel and Gray's Abel
being on the same offensive line. There is a chance,
and it's a pretty fair chance, that the Seahawks are

(02:38):
going to have to North Dakota State Bison as recently
as two years ago playing together at North Dakota State
starting on their offensive line. I have not heard of
an undrafted rookie from a previous season get as much
coaching attention and love this offseason as Jalen Sendell has
gotten from Mike McDonald. It started right after the season

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ended when they hired the new offensive coordinator, a new staff,
Kln Kubiak and Rick Dennison and John Benton in the
offensive line. It continued at the combine. Hey, Jalen Sondell Man,
this new system is outside wide zone block. It really
fits him that he can move latterly and this is
really gonna help Jalen Sindel. He played mostly as a
guard in the tackle last year as a backup, but

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he is going to get a run at center. And
it would not surprise me, Jessaman anders if our new
starting center in Seattle is Jalen Sandel starting next to
fellow North Dakota State Bison Gray's Abel at left guard.
And let's face it, they've got to change the interior
of the offensive line. Oli over with Timmy was only
starting at the end of last season because Connor Williams

(03:42):
up and left in the middle of the season just
retired at needs twenty seven in October. The Seahawks had
no inclination that was going to happen when they signed
him in August coming off the knee injury. And that's
why Ola with Timmy was starting. It wasn't as though
he earned it. It was that he was the guy
who was left standing after Connor Williams left. I would
keep an eye on Jalen Sindel, and it would not

(04:03):
surprise me at all if he has a great opportunity
in training camp to be a new starting stege.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, and I really like it, especially because you know,
when you talk about offensive lineman, it's speaking the same language,
right Like these guys kind of know the same language already.
And I know that John Schneider has always valued versatility
on the offensive lineman that we've seen come in throughout
his tenure here in Seattle. But I know that that

(04:28):
has much come at the frustration of what we've seen
from fans who watch the offensive line not be as
strong as what we have seen. I think everybody wants
this Stalworth. You know, Okay, this guy's playing this position,
this place guy's playing this position. But if you have
two guys in the interior who speak the same language,
one happening to be a first round draft pick wherever

(04:51):
he might be, whether it be you know, guard, tackle, center,
I really really like that, and especially on the right
side of the line, I think it could be pretty good.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Here's the difference in this year, Jessaman, that language is
the same now this time. Last year, of course, they
had Scott helf coming in from the University of Washington
as a first time NFL line coach and Ryan Grubb
coming in as a first time NFL play caller, and
it was Pope Perrie. As far as style of blocking
on the offensive line, there was some pulling and trapping,
there was some inside zone, there was some wide zone,

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but it was a little bit everything. And as a
matter of fact, during the season, once the game started happening,
they did a little more pulling and trapping blocking and
man on man stuff and inside trapping stuff than they
had earlier in the season because they thought that was
working better. But there was just this barrage of styles
and different depending on the play call. Not this year.

(05:45):
This year it's wide zone er bust. And they brought
Rick Dennison n a Super Bowl line coach from the
nineteen nineties Denver Broncos. They brought a twenty year coaching
line veteran coaching in John Benton in the NFL from
the Saints coming with Clint Kubiak, and then bring kuba
with the Mike Shanahan. Think Terrell Davis nineties Broncos outside zone.
That's what they're doing, and it's clear to the linemen

(06:08):
it's clear to the coaching staff the direction. There's a
universal pulled in one direction now, and the linemen aren't
gonna be asked to do three or four different styles.
They're gonna be asked to do one. So what's outside zone.
It's lateral movement, running, running off the ball where they
aren't gonna try to maul the guy in front of
him and drive him into the ground. They're gonna actually
run past that guy and get to the assigned hole

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for the play. If the play is an off tackle
play to the outside, those center and guards are gonna
run to the off tackle. They're running to a zone.
That's what's called zone blocking. They literally are vanguarding blocking
a zone. They're not blocking a man. And if a
man happens to be in that zone, your job's to
block him and grit him out of the hole. But
if there's no man in that hole, you progress to
the second level and go keep going in that zone.

(06:53):
It's much different than man on man blocking. Think DJ
Flucker right, Oh gosh, that was a road greater man
on man blocker. Yes, they don't want that anymore. They
Anthony Bradford to me, seems miscasting this Bradford is more
of a street maller man on man DJ Flucker type.
He to me, would have a hard harder time in

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this system, and it says has to adjust to that
to try to win back and starting right to guard job.
They went through three of those last year. But a
guy like LeMay at the end of the season was
more agile, was more quick laterally, and he would have
a chance to start again at right guard. But they
are When you ask Mike McDonald and Clint Kubiak to
crystallize what they're asking for their linemen to do it

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outside zone, they all say the same thing, run off
the ball, and it means it's simply as exactly as
it says, run off the ball. So there's a different
kind of linement that they want. They would not have
grafted grays Abel first overall last year in their draft
because their system wasn't fitting him. Gray's Abel fits the
system because he's athletic and can run. And this is

(07:56):
it's just a clearer mandate for their offensive line, for
their coaching staff, for their scouting and personnel side of
here's what we want. They're going wokstock and barrel with
this outside wide zone and we're gonna that to me
is the biggest difference to clarity of purpose. There is
a singular purpose for their offensive lineman. And now they
have until now in September to hone that we'll see

(08:17):
if the results change.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
I was going to ask you how much of a
difference this makes in their changing of I mean, obviously,
if you know you go to Ryan Grubb, from Ryan
Grubb to Clint Kubiak, obviously that was a huge change
on everything. But how much does this tell you? Mike
McDonald is like, this is my team mail, these are
my fingerprints, and it seems to me that John Schneider

(08:38):
is completely Yes, it is, especially you know, defensive coach,
but Mike McDonald is not.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
I'm not just the head coach of the defense.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
And that in just year two, seeing him make a
move like that spoke very highly of his leadership to me.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, and I said it last year and I wrote
it for the News Tribune. Mike McDonald and his coaching
staff will never be less involved in offseason personnel moves
than they were last year by nature of how they
got here. When they got here, it wasn't until the
first of February that they hired Mike McDonald. It wasn't
until eight or nine days after that, in the mid February,
that they hired Ryan Grubb. It wasn't until after that

(09:16):
that they hired Scott Huff and that now we're getting
to the combine in March without a clear mandate and
system of what they were. They didn't even have all
their assistant coaches in until after the cony.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
It was a late hire sure, as.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Twenty one assistant coaches came in last year. This time
last year, Mike McDonald was still trying to figure out
which keys work to which doors to this building, let
alone getting his personnel that he wants playing the style
that he wants. That's what we're going to talk about
later in the show is how the personnel. Three picks
in particular of the eleven last year are direct Baltimore

(09:49):
Ravens style, tone strategy picks. Jalen Millroe is one of those,
and they McDonald was unabashed about talking about Jaln Milroe
and Lamar Jackson and how he thought of what Jackson
when he was evaluating Milroe, and how hard it is
for how Jackson stresses a defense and he wants Milroe

(10:09):
to be in that same ilk, and so McDonald wasn't
doing that this time last year. He didn't have time
to do. They was trying to put together game plans,
training plans, figuring out what mini camps are going to
look like. Who is twenty one new coaches are Hi,
I'm Mike McDonald. And that's what they were doing this
time last year. And so now he is so much
morely involved in the personnel side, in the player development,

(10:31):
player evaluation side, than he was last year. Last year
he basically relied on John Schneider in his side of
the house to do that, and John Schneider on their
side of the house relied on what they'd known for
sixteen years. Here, they didn't know Mike McDonald. They had
an inkling because they'd hired him, but they didn't know
intimately what Mike McDonald wanted. And Mike McDonald frankly didn't
even have his staff. Did he want. No.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
He came in and had to learn. He came in
and had to learn as much as everyone else had
to learn about him. And one thing, he's still Greg
Gasel of NFL Films joins ian what you know once
a week? He obviously it will have some time off
until we get back into the season. But he said
yesterday that and you know they're not. He obviously doesn't.
Jaylen Millroe doesn't have NFL film on him, but said

(11:14):
that he's more He's more athletic and more explosive in
certain situations. So that is backing up everything that you
are putting on the table when it comes to Miller.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, this team is far more interesting just the fact
that they've drafted Jaln Miller. We'll get to that too,
But up next, we're gonna talk to Eno Saras. He
talks to Ian Jessmon and Andrews every Thursday. At this time,
he's gonna he's the Athletics Major League Baseball writer. He
is going to talk to us about the first place Mariners,
among other things. Even East Coast people are noticing the

(11:45):
first place Seattle Marylands. We'll talk to Eno Sarah's we're
Gonn talked to Corbyn Smith at two o'clock about the
Seahawks here from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, and I'm
going to talk to you about how the baltimoreification of
the Seahawks has begun in earnest with three particular draft
last week. All that coming up from the Seahawks headquarter.
Jasman McIntyre Anderson Hurst, Greg Bell in for Infinez, Thanks

(12:06):
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Speaker 4 (12:12):
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Speaker 1 (12:49):
Back the in for this show, Greg Belt and who's
to being pinch heating for Ian? Who's off Today? We're
at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center at Seahawks headquarters. Gray's
Abel press conference at three point thirty. Corvin Smith will
joined me at two o'clock to talk about what we
he and I witness saw reported last week of the
Seahawks draft. Right now you know Sarah's a weekly guest
at this time of Ian's joining us on the Beacon

(13:11):
Plumbing Hotline. You know, you know, I'm gonna talk right away.
First of all, welcome back to the show. And we
got to ask you about the first Place Mariners.

Speaker 5 (13:18):
Hello, yeah, yeah. And and the offense. I mean, that's
the thing we've been talking about on the show, is
the offense and just wondering about, you know, what would
it come together because the pitching has been has been
always been so good, and yeah, the offense is doing it.

(13:40):
And one thing that I did find that was really
interesting about it was that they were really good at
pulling the ball in the air last year when they
were really bad at everything else, and yeah, exactly, And
this year they're still pulling the ball in the air
and they're still decent at it, but they're also near

(14:01):
the top at going the other way with grounders. And
I think what Kevin Sitzer and the new hitting coach
has brought to the team is just like maybe a
better two strike philosophy, maybe a better sense of like, hey,
sometimes you go for it and you pull the ball
in the air and you get that ball out in front,
and sometimes you let that ball travel and you and

(14:23):
you go the other way with it, sort of, you know,
take the ball where it's pitched to you and go
with it. And so it seems to be working out
for all of them. In particular, Jorge Polanco has like
comparable numbers to Aaron Judge.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
Who saw that coming the phone for him out here
third base, second base. Do we even bring him back?
Let's cut him and bring him back on a new salary. Yeah,
you just you're right.

Speaker 6 (14:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
When I see the Mariners, I mean they're doing what
I teach my high school baseball players, like coach, go
the other way. Don't s any percent swing with two strikes,
go where the pitch is pitched opposite field, up the middle, opposite.
I've seen them win a couple of games the last
couple weeks just because of that two strike, two out hits.
I said, JP Crawford do it. Last week, I saw

(15:14):
Julia roun Rigez used to try to hit every pitch
to Mercer Island pull on the pool side. Was hitting
the ball the other way, the opposite field. It's almost
like exit velocity and launch angle have finally gone out
of the sea. The Mariners' minds. Would you attribute it
to Teken?

Speaker 5 (15:33):
I do think it's it's a siteser led philosophy. It's
something you started to see a little bit with Edgar
taking over last year. And I think it's, you know,
in the summer sense of reaction to the park, like
you know, the park is cold, it doesn't let you know,
doesn't it's not very conducive to homers, and so why
go for homers all the time? You know, like if

(15:55):
it's like, take what's giving you given to you? And
then there's another which is just that the park has
got some glare issues and some things going on with it,
where you know, it becomes easier over time. So somebody
like Tolanco he arrived last year and he was hurt
and he was dealing with that park and understanding it,

(16:17):
and then he kind of figured it out, you know,
And I think he's just gotten more comfortable in that
park and in his role, and you know, I think
he's just he's settling in basically, And that can be
said for a lot of the guys in the line.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
This is the vay I said Eno Harris, he's our
weekly guest here and the Beacon Plumbing Hotline of the
Athletic Major League Baseball covers for the Athletic. You know
elsewhere around the league is Detroit Tigers in first place.
The San Francisco Giants have spent a lot of time
in first place, although the Dodgers have eclipsed them recently.
In the National League West, the Yankees, of course, as

(16:54):
usual at the top of the Red Sox are off
to a good start right behind them. What has surprised
you so far? Cubs being in first place at eighteen
and twelve going into last night, what has surprised you
most about those leaders and others that are at the
top of their divisions, at least early on after thirty
some goals.

Speaker 5 (17:11):
I think it's the Giants offense. Actually, you know, they
did do some work in getting Willie Domas, and i'd
like I think match Upman's a good hitter, and Elie
Ramos is a good hitter. But I think they're over
their heads a little bit offensively. I've been surprised by,
you know, somebody like Wilmer flores In. I think he's

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one rbi off of Judge for the league lead, and
I just don't I don't think he's going to keep
up that sort of pace. So I think that they're
a little bit over their skis offensively, but they also
have a really really good bullpen and a really really
good rotation, and it's you know, they have some similarities
to Seattle always because of those facts and because of

(17:55):
how their ballpark plays. So I think that they're going
to hang around, but I don't know that they're gonna
threaten to be division winners.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
On the other side of it. You know, you wrote
about this, but the Rockies, I mean, I mean, you
wrote that that was the fortieth worst run differential for
a month in the last seventy five years. Seventy five years.
That means how bad was the Rockies? Start at four
and twenty five? How many ways of bad are the

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Rockies right now?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
It's that month, just as a month among all the
months that have ever been played, basically is in the
worst point five percent. Like it just it wasn't the
worst month of all time because there was a month
where a team went one in twenty five I think,
and so I guess that's that's worse. And in fact,

(18:51):
on the list of worse months that were worse than
Rockies just put together, there were two seasons by last
year's White Sox.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
If they want to, if they want to have one
of the worst seasons of all time like the White
Soxes last year, they're going to have to have another
month like this. And I wouldn't put it mask them
because the Rockies.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
You know.

Speaker 5 (19:13):
That's to say one thing on the Mariners, which I think.
I think that they do things, they try things. They've
been they've invested a lot in their pitching development. They've
tried different types of hitters. They've they've got different hitters,
They've they make trades, they make moves, they they have ideas,
you know, they try things. They have a park that's
a little bit tough on them, and they've tried to

(19:34):
figure out a way through it. The Rockies park, a
GM told me might cost them five to six wins
a year just because it's so hard to play in
and uh, it comes to altitude rest injury, and then
all the pitches don't move, all sorts of things, and
so they have a deficit that they have to overcome.

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And they've tried nothing, and they're all out of ideas.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
They really I've done.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Nothing they've done. They've they've never done any sort of
innovative thing there and it shows it's just it's just
a really sad state of affairs where it's a boring
team in a really hard park that just hasn't tried anything,
and it's it's just sad.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Really, it's the voice that ino sarahs joining us and
becon plumbing Highland in the athletic Major League Baseball writer
Wan Soto finally hit his first city field home run
a home game for the Mets today. Since sending seven
hundred and sixty five million dollars deal, is there concern
at all in New York it is the case of
thirty games in Wan Soda will become one Sodo eventually,

(20:37):
or is there any cause for alarm? Do you think
around New York for investing three quarters of a billion
dollars and not getting so much of return yet?

Speaker 5 (20:46):
Yeah, I mean, you know, he's it's a it's a
little bit like the the Rock. He's like, you know,
there have been bad months, he's had bad He's had
months like this and he's come out of it. One
thing that bothers me a little bit is his bat
speed is down two miles for hours. So I don't
know if there's a physical component to this or whatever's
going on. The Other thing that's a little bit weird
is he hasn't been doing the Soto shuffle. My colleague

(21:10):
Will Samon did a like a kind of a deeply
reported piece about you know, where did the Sodo shuffle go?
And so one thing that I have noticed is that
big contract players in their first year don't often have
their best years. And it comes for a couple of reasons.
One is, if you get a huge contract, a lot
of times you came off your career year, so you're

(21:32):
just have a little bit of natural regression. The other
is you land in a new situation, the new park.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
You have to learn that.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
You have to learn where you like to eat, where
you like to sleep, where everything is in the clubhouse.
And then the last part is you put a lot
of pressure on yourself because you just signed a mega
deal and the fans are out there saying we want
to win. What's nice is the Mets are winning, and
so as long as the Mets keep winning, then we
don't have to have you know, these pieces that are like,

(22:01):
oh Man Soto, worst deal ever? You know, you know
backpage tabloid stuff in New York that would make it worse.
So I think he'll just come out of the slump,
and it be partially because Francisco Lindor is playing so well.
It's a weird thing how the sports work.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
You know, you mean it's not one guy four exactly
the fourth computer that as you're human. The checks are
clearing for seven hundred and sixty five million, guaranteed. I'm
good for a couple of months before I have to
turn it up right, you know, it's great to talk
to It's great tosact you. We'll keep an eye on
whether the Mariners can stay in first place next time

(22:39):
we talk to you next Thursday. With it the Giants
with their Little league home runs can continue to stay
in first place. It's great date to hear from me.
We'll talk Togain next week. Thank you, sir, all right,
thank you. HEO. Sarah's from the Athletic. You can follow
him at Eno. Sarah's at E N O S A
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(23:02):
You think he's Northern California based the way he talked
about the Giants. I think he's yeah, the Giants are
the surprise.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
One, but he sees the whole country all the time.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Especially the first place Mariners, who again are off today,
heading to Texas to play the Rangers for a three
game weekends series to begin a road trip. They've won
seven consecutive series. And man, that's the offense. Is what
he just said. Jorge Polanco is the epitomely of how
they've changed offensively and the fact that their approach. I
really have noticed it watching some of the games I've

(23:30):
watched about two strike approaches not being try to hit
the Balti Mercer island every time anymore, the actually are
going the other way and trying to go up the
middle of the opposite Next the Daily Power Play at
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going to be their eighth team. They're gonna play next season.
The Climbate Pledge arenas co tenants with the Kraken four
nine four five one on the text line the still
to be named new name text line wide open forbidding,
get on it. But on the text line tell us
who would what would you like the nickname to be?
For the new professional women's hockey team in Seattle, the

(26:36):
eighth team in the league. What would you like the
nickname to be? What do you think it should be?
Do you have any idea? Shows?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well, there were some that got floated when the cracking
came around, right, So I really liked the Soackeys as
I wanted the Krack in for the NHL team, but
they were a lot of good ideas that came out
of that, and I think the Sackys could be a
good one.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Socks, what do you think, andrews Uh?

Speaker 8 (26:58):
Yeah, I think they should lean into maybe the ideas
that weren't floated around for the Kraken. So I want
to see something like kind of completely new for me personally.
But yeah, I don't know. I haven't I haven't seen
any like rumored ones because you, like you said, they
kind of floated those around when the cracking came along.
So I'm curious if they have like a list of
them that they're trying to choose from at this point,
that'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
You know, Like I don't think the I think there
can be different ones for you know, just like you know.

Speaker 3 (27:21):
The men's league and the women's league.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
I just really liked the Soackeyes and just for regional purposes,
I guess, yeah, But I do also like you know,
like you know, the Rain, I don't think that was
floated for you know, you know Lloyd Even's soccer team,
that wasn't floated for the men.

Speaker 8 (27:38):
And like you could tell those like franchises and any
sport that have kind of tied in you know, names
like the Storm and Sonics were obviously pretty tied in
together because they were obviously by the same group, right,
and then the Rain and the Sounders pretty tied in
together just because you associate one with the other. But
and do you have other ones where it's like the

(28:00):
Austin Bruins and then the Boston Fleet, I think, which
is completely different. So yeah, you just don't know if
they want to lean into what the Kracking are doing
it kind of be like a similar brand or kind
of be their own things.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
So I don't know that's a good question though.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, they were represented well by the Cracking yesterday. If
they're climates are in as Matho Halloway Pardona tim owner.
The team was a Toddway Wikie was there. A bunch
of Crack and staffers were there and they were going
to be co tenants. But it'd be kind of hard
to play off the Kraken from a female hockey standpoint,
wouldn't they? What would the female al timat? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (28:30):
I think kracking's pretty gender neutral.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
Yeah, but I mean you couldn't be cracking ass. Oh no, no, no.

Speaker 3 (28:36):
I wouldn't use cracking out.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
How can you play off of that doesn't seem to
be a natural part.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
We need to find another mythical beat.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
Yeah, well, I was thinking like anything that's like kind
of similar to it, Like the Sakas to me would
be like another sea creature that's kind of like the
in the same realm. And I don't know if they
want to like lean completely into that and kind of
be a similar brand or be something totally different. So
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Four nine and text and your thoughts on what the
hockey team new women's professional hockey team in Seattles canna
play Climate Pledgerina next year should be nicknamed switching gears
were at Seahawk headquarters because Grey's abel is going to
talk at three thirty. He's the first round draft pick
eighteenth overall, the first interior lineman drafted by the Seahawks
since two thousand and one some guy named Steve Hutchinson.
That worked out pretty well for them. It's the first

(29:21):
lower division player to be drafted in the first round
by the Seahawks since nineteen ninety nine. Yeah, Lamar King
Saginaw Valley State and that was Division two. Grey's able
from Football Championship Subdivision North Dakota State. I made the
point at the top of the show and Mike McDonald
it wasn't last year because this time last year was
hiring twenty one new assistant coaches. But how he's making

(29:43):
this Baltimore Ravens West and it makes sense because that's
what he knows. He's spent ten years under John Harbor in.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
Baltimore when he got hired for a reason, and he.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
Got hired because he had the number one defense in
producing turnovers, sacks, and fewest points allowed with the Baltimore Ravens.
He was hired for what he did with Kyle Hamilton
turning him into an All Pro safety and is just
the second year he became a Pro Bowl safety moving
all around the defense. Well, this draft, Jesseman and Andrews
I mentioned, is this draft really shows the Baltimification of

(30:12):
the Seahawks, and in particular three picks nick Emmon Warry
at the top of the second round they drafted, they
picked they trade excuse me, seventeen picks. Uh moved back
eleventeen picks, traded a third round pick to get the
big safety six three to two twenty from South Carolina
and the first two guys they mentioned, And in fact
em and Warry said that the Seahawks and Mike McDonald

(30:33):
mentioned to him Kyle Hamilton six four to two twenty
for the Ravens and Cam Chancellor royalty here in Seattle
say no more Jalen Milroe. When they drafted Milroe, the
first guy that Mike McDonald said, he's thinking of using
him like Lamar Jackson, exactly who he went against and
practices at Baltimore for all those years. And they said

(30:55):
how he stresses defenses not only the first play, but
the second play and third play on the same snap.
And then the third guy was Robbie Oots, the mustache man.
He's got a big mustache. He and Zabeler in competition.
But Oots was a tight end in Alabama. But the
Seahawks drafted from this new position called fullback. They're actually

(31:16):
going to use a fullback this year. With Kin Kubiak's offense.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
It made that apparent immediately.

Speaker 1 (31:21):
And yes, Oots is going to be a full back.
He's going to compete with Brady Russell, who had been
converted from tight end this spring to full back for
that position. And I asked Mike McDonald how much to
full back two backs are going to use? He's going
quite a bit. That is Baltimore Ravens. When you ask Oots, hey,
who do you pat in your game at if you're

(31:42):
going to play fullback in the NFL? He said Patrick Riccard.
Riccard is the three hundred pounds pullback for guess who
with the Baltimore Ravens. So there's no doubt where Mike
McDonald's trying personnel wise now to head style of play
players to match that style of play. It's worked in Baltimore.
You can say, well, the Bravens haven't won Super well,
they've been to more Super Bowls in the Seahawks more recently,

(32:05):
and they've won more division titles. And Seahawks have more recently,
and they've won more playoff games that the Seahawks have
more recently. I'm gonna talk to Corvin Smith about that.
Coming up at the top of the hour at two
forty five, we're gonna cross talk with Dick Vane and
Dave Softy. Mall are heading into a show. Oh way, really, yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:22):
We're gonna milling experience.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Coming four hours enough for those two.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
No, it's not. They probably keep talking up here anyway.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
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Speaker 3 (33:18):
If won, let's not go through PTSD right now.

Speaker 1 (33:22):
They start a six game road trip tomorrow. They're flying
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Speaker 4 (36:48):
It's time to take a deep dive into all things
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dot com. Now with Gorbyn Smith, here's Ian.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Or Greg Dan Corby, you get an open and everything.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
Man, I'm still trying to figure it out, Greg, I
don't understand.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Way to go, man, all right, Colevin Smith joining us
before he flies in for rookie Why are you flying
in for rookie mini camp by the way you could
save the money. Why why would? And I it's John
eleven eleven new picks. There's all kind of stuff going on. Yeah,
they are.

Speaker 3 (37:43):
I'm a nerd.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I'm a nerd, Greg. I think you probably already know that.
So no, I'd be here. But I have something that's
even better tomorrow. I'll talk about that later today. But
the eleven draft picks that you mentioned tied for the
largest draft class of the John Schneider era, plus a
couple dozen will be be between trial players and undrafted rookies.
We've gone on and on so far about the draft picks,

(38:05):
and we're going to get to those in a second.
But talk to me, Corbin about who's caught your eye
the undrafted rookie free agent signings and why.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
Easily the number one for me is Jared Ivy, the
defensive lineman out of Ole miss. I had him at
one fifty three on my big board. And look, I
know he didn't test well. His athletics score was two
point zero, which is abysmal, but the guy was an
All SEC performer against the best competition in college football.

Speaker 7 (38:33):
He throws bricks for hands.

Speaker 6 (38:35):
I mean, he knocks three hundred and twenty pound offensive
lineman back off their feet, and he's kind of slithering
even though he didn't test well, he's kind of got
this ability to just slither through gaps. And I just
think he's a really good football player. I was stunned
that he wasn't drafted. And he can play inside, he
can play out on two point stance. He's the kind

(38:56):
of guy that Mike McDonald likes, and I see him
being kind of like a br urban type that played
for the Ravens where maybe he didn't test great, but
he's just a really good football player. And I think
the fact he didn't really invest and he picks other
than Riley Mills there. I think he's got a pretty
good chance to make this football team.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
We're talking to Corbyn Smith as we do every week
at this time, and we're talking about undrafted rookie free agents.
Why are we talking about Seahawks undrafted rookie free agen
signings because a couple of them make the team. Every
year this team has been among the league leaders and
not only signing but then playing undrafted rookies. And right away,
what is your impression of Zia Alexander, the cornerback from LSU.

(39:32):
They also signed him this week. If you're a cornerback
at LSU and you're playing in the NFL, that means
you're probably in the SEC. You were probably pretty good
at your job.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Yeah, you know, it's interesting, Greg, I actually had another
corner that the Seahawks signed that Isaas Waxter from Villanova.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I actually had a new higher on my big board.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
And the big reason why is Alexander's got good ball production,
but he's also been very susceptible to giving up big
plays in coverage, and part of that is the teams
he's played against, obviously, but you also have concerns about
the recovery speed and against NFL receivers, that's an issue.
Now we'll see how he holds up when we get
into the offseason program. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if

(40:13):
he ends up finding his way in this roster because
of the talent he's played against. But I think Waxter,
at six two, two hundred and ten pounds, he fits
more of the mold of what I think Mike McDonald's
looking for at corner because he's a physical player. He
likes to press cover, he comes up and hits people
roughly the same athletic metrics is what Alexander brings to
the table. But he's got to me more positional versatility.

(40:36):
You might have a guy that could be a corner
safety flex, which Mike McDonald he loves those guys that
he can move around the defense. So but either one
of them I can see making this football team. So
they didn't draft a corner, but Waxter is a name
that I would keep an.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Eye on here. And as you mentioned, they didn't of
their eleven draft picks, did not draft a cornerback. We
you and I most people thought they were going to
and so they are gonna probably sign keep the couple
of the signed cornerbacks they've had his undrafted rookies. An
ultimate flyer among the undrafted rookies as I see at
Corbyn is a six to seven wide receiver Tyrone Broden

(41:08):
from Arkansas. He barely had any production last year. I
think he had one hundred and ninety some yards and
a touchdown for the Razorbacks last year. But you're laughing,
This is exactly what you do with an undrafted rookie.
Tried to see if it is a six can this
six seven wide receiver. I don't know what you know
of Tyrone Broden, but just your curiosity of having a
six to seven wide receiver in camp.

Speaker 9 (41:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
I've actually been following him since he was at Bowling
Green and part of the reason was because of his
crazy metrics. Like you said, he's sixty seven and he
ran in the four threes, so he's got phenomenal athleticism
and he really changes directions quite well for a player
of that size. The issue has been is he is
I don't even know if feast or famine is the

(41:53):
right way to put it. He had like a forty
percent catch rate last year at Arkansas. You can get
some big plays from him, but he can also go
several games where you don't get anything. So I think
with a guy like that, it's got size and traits,
it's worth taking a flyer on him and seeing what
you have in camp, and if he provides some value
as a special teamer, then maybe you can look into

(42:15):
him as a practice squad guy. I think we're getting
ahead of ourselves a little bit there, but he does
have the traits that always are fascinating when you're looking
at undrafted guys, and that's why you sign him and
give him a shot in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
Yeah, you're right about the special teams all rookies, especially undrafted.
You got to go specially. That's your main curse. And
Doug Baldwin about that, you got to be special teams player.
That's what made Ricky White an interesting pick at the
end of the draft. UNLV wide receiver who blocked four
kicks scrimmage kicks, field goals last year for you, and
at four, four is more than any team in the

(42:49):
Football Bowl Subdivision, any and total team had and he
had four by himself. Asked him about that and he said, yeah,
it's all about effort. Who interested you particularly we'll get
to the headliners in a minute, but the third day guys,
and of those third day picks, and they had five
of them, Who's who was most interesting to you for
the Seahawks draft picks last weekend and why.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
It's the two receivers.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Tory Horton would have been a third round.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
Pick, maybe a second round pick if he didn't miss
half of this past season injured. The Seahawks benefited from that.
He's a legitimate four to three guy that's six foot two,
can sky over corners, big play production. Just turn on
the tape against Travis Hunter two years ago. Maybe the
only receiver that has made Travis Hunter look bad. I
just think he is an undervalued receiver that fell in

(43:34):
part because of the injury. I just think he's a
really good football player. No, by the way, he had
three punt returns for touchdowns in his college career. So
you mentioned the special teams. He can He can handle
himself on special teams. But in terms of value, you
mentioned the name Ricky White the third I had a
late fourth round great on him. They got him at
two thirty eight. I don't care what his pro day
workout or his combined workout looked like his pro day workout.

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He ran much faster. That's what what I saw on
tape was a guy that ran in the high four
to fours, low four fives, not a four to six guy.
He's tough as nails. He is an excellent run blocker.
Like this guy just prides himself on everything that he does.
When he's on the field, he gives you whatever it
takes to help.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
Your team win.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
UNLB was one of the worst programs in football. I
think you can look at Ricky White as the catalyst
the last two years that made it that they became
a top twenty five team. For most of the last
season they followed his lead. You know how much Mike
McDonald and John Schneider value that type of stuff. You're
getting a really good all around football player that I
was stunned was still there.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
What do you think, sorry, Corbyn, what do you think
a wide receiver? Corvern? They signed Cooper cup Marquez Marquez
Valleis Scandaling who seems like a one year trial basis guy.
He's had four teams in the last four years. And
then you have Jackson Smith and Jay Wick coming back
with Jake Bobo and where do you see them at
wide receiver. You've mentioned the reasons why those rookies could

(44:56):
have opportunities right away, but if how do you feel
about that whole position group right now?

Speaker 6 (45:03):
I think Jackson Smith and Jig but we saw it
late last year, was already starting to look and I
think this is part of the reason that DK Metcalf
wanted out, to be honest with you, I think he
felt like, oh man, there's another number one receiver here,
and he wanted to be the alpha. I think that
that was part of it. But JSN is ready to
erupt to this year as the number one receiver. I
think this offensive scheme is going to be a really

(45:24):
good fit for him with Kubiak and Cooper Cup that
it's just about a health if he can stay healthy.
He's still been very productive when he's been healthy, it's
just been the health issues. I'm actually wondering at this
point if Marquez Valdez Scantling he ends up being one
of those guys that when he signed him, it looked
like there was gonna be a significant role.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
But to me, Tory Horton is already.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
The downfield threat that can do a lot more things
than what he can and so I would not be
surprised if we see Horton jump over him pretty quickly.
And I would not be shocked if Ricky White ends
up being their number four receiver because, as I mentioned, hisness,
he gets after the run blocker, you know, Kubiak is
gonna want that he can create after the catch, and
he's got some downfield capabilities as well. He's played in

(46:08):
the slot and outside. So I think they're much better
off with those two players. I think got really good
values adding them. Jake Bobo, I think, because of his size,
still stays on the roster and he's a good special
teams player. I think the one that's gonna be in
a tough situation is gonna be Durake Young now because
special teams has been a huge advantage for him. Now
you've got Horton and White coming in who are elite

(46:29):
special teams players. That edge no more is gonna is
no longer gonna work in his favor in my opinion, Yeah,
that's gery.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Young to your point, is an inherited player from this
coaching step. They don't know him, they don't have they
didn't draft him, they didn't they don't have the relationship
with him that Pete Carroll and the former staff did.
This is Corbyn Smith Emerald City Spectrum. You mentioned the
wide receiver spots. Cooper Cup has been so brilliant in
the slot, and of course Jackson Smith and Jig but
played slot quite a bit with Tyler Lockett did as well.

(46:58):
Where do you see that breaking down? And can Jaxon
Smith and jigmit to you be a true X type
outside receiver not quite the size for that. Where do
you see the arrangement array of those receivers to be.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
I think the Cup and JSN can both play some
on the boundary, and I think Smith and Jig, but
it is better suited for it because he got a
little bit more burst. And in fact, the first Rams
game last year, you're gonna remember this, he went up
for one hundred and eighty yards in that game and
he could have had two hundred and forty if not
for penalties. A couple of those big plays that were

(47:32):
called back Gino Smith hit him from the outside on
downfield routes, So he is more than capable of doing
damage out there. I think he's the better fit, at
least at this stage of his career to play there,
and then when they go into three receiver sets again,
I think Tory Horton is gonna end up being the
guy because he's going to bring you size and speed,
downfield threat capabilities, and I'll throw you an X factor here.

(47:56):
And I don't think it's a coincidence that John Schneider
mentioned that Elijah Royo could be an X receiver because
I think that the Seahawks, especially giving him number eighteen,
I think they view him as a guy that's gonna
play quite a bit on the outside. Two hundred and
fifty pounds X receiver might seem crazy, but he can
move that way, so he might get some reps out

(48:17):
there as well.

Speaker 1 (48:19):
Like Jimmy Graham out there and way back in the day,
Corvin Smith joining his Emerald City spectrum. Jalen Milroe, to me,
is the most fascinating guy in this draft. He I
was going back. I cannot think of a quarterback with
his skill set the Stales have ever had, and they've
never had a quarterback who could pressure the edges and
make a defense defend that particular part of the game.

(48:40):
Russell Wilson ran around to throw, and he ran around
to extend play sure, he took off down the field
if it was available, he had to, but he really
did run outside to extend plays to throw the ball.
Jalen Milroe runs outside to run you over, and he'll
run over linebackers. Thirty two rushing touchdowns the last two
years at Alabama, seven hundred and forty plus yards rushing

(49:02):
last year for the time. Yeah, his accuracy and passing
is the reason why a lot of people have questions
of him why he's lasted till round three? Cormyn, Do
you see them having I do. I just want to
get your opinion. Do you see them having a package
of plays or at least making the league think they
have a package of plays that defensive coordinators are gonna
have to game plan four of him, specifically running and

(49:25):
challenging the edges.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
If they don't, the coaching staff needs to have their
heads examined.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
That's my opinion on it. I don't know. I don't listen.

Speaker 6 (49:35):
I was talking about this in the pre draft process
that if they were gonna take a QB after signing
Drew Locke, he was the only one that away from
a seventh round flyer made sense to me because you
can justify keeping a third quarterback on the roster when
he has his skill set, and I just I just
think it would be an incredible waste of talent not

(49:55):
to have a package of plays or a few formations
that you have where Jalen Milroe can come in because
teams have to respect he might not be a great
passer at this.

Speaker 1 (50:03):
Point, but he has an incredible deep ball.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Opponents will have to respect that when he comes in.
It's not like he's just gonna run every time, and
so it really hamstrings what the defense can do. I
think Mike McDonald made it very clear with the way
that he was talking about how it makes things difficult
for the defense. I would be stunned if they don't
have packages in there, and Kubiak likes to mix things
in like that anyway, I would be stunned if they

(50:27):
don't have some packages for him.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
It was also interesting McDonald said last week before the
draft when we met with him, and he's a straight shooter,
he doesn't usually bsha and he said Sam Donald is
gonna play by far ninety of the snaps. Ninety percent
in Seattle is different for a starting quarterback. We're used
to Russell Wilson getting every single snap and Gino Smith

(50:50):
getting every single snap unless they're injured. There were entire
seasons the Seahawks backup quarterback never even saw the field,
not even for mop up duty not so long ago.
Eight percent of the SAPs, I means ten percent of
the snaps are out there, and I totally get it
to ten percent of the snaps. We're talking six to
the eight snaps a game, perhaps five seven snaps a
game to be Jalen Milroe. I'm with you, Corbyn. I

(51:14):
predicted they were gonna draft him, actually thought they were
gonna draft him in the second round. But for those reasons.
I had heard of the combine, how interested they were,
how much they loved him off the field. Nick Eman, worry,
I know you love him as a pick as what
they could poss he used. Tell me about what your
enthusiasm for how the Seahawks can use him. I'll tell
you what.

Speaker 6 (51:33):
In the twelve years that I've been doing scouting and
watching players for the draft, I don't know that I've
ever seen a defensive back that has the tools and
already refined skills that this kid brings to the table.
I was stunned, and I think John Schneider was stunned.
I mean, he made it clear they were thinking about
trading back into the first round to get em and Warry.
I could not believe that he was still there when

(51:55):
we got into Day two. Not just the fact that
he had incredible testing numbers. He had eighty eight tackles,
four picks, two of them returned for touchdowns last year.
He is an incredible coverage safety at six three two twenty.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
You just don't.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
I mean, he's a guy you make in a lab.

Speaker 6 (52:13):
And John Schneider normally loves players like that. We've seen
it with DK Metcalf and a few others in the past.
But this guy is a really productive football player.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
He's got some work that he's.

Speaker 6 (52:25):
Got to do in the box in terms of his
instincts and getting off blocks, and sometimes he doesn't play
with the physicality that you expect, and there are times
that he lays big hits. He's been inconsistent in that regard.
But I can't think of a player that would be
a better fit for Mike McDonald than this guy. Again,
if Mike McDonald could create a safety in a lab,
I think that this would be it.

Speaker 8 (52:45):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Corvin Thank you. I know you got a plan to
catch to get here for rookie Minnicamp tomorrow. We'll see
you out here at Seahawks tomorrow. Thanks for joining us.
We'll be on again next week with Ian.

Speaker 8 (52:55):
That sounds good.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Thanks Greg Zeia, all right, thank you. Corvin Smith College
might on the Seahawks be joining as he always doesn't
become plumbing hotline this time every Thursday. He'll be back
with the next Thursday up next, your chance to be
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Speaker 1 (53:12):
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text line next and then up two forty five with
cross talk with Dave Softy Maller before he and Hugh
Mellon will take over from three to seven. All that
coming up. We're at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center, Greg
both filling in for Ian Forness on ninety three point
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Speaker 9 (53:32):
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Speaker 1 (53:49):
Welcome Mackett's Notty Inferness. It's Greg though the News Tribune
with Jesmin McIntyre and Anderson Hurst. Just with Corbyn Smith
talking about the Seahawks not only their draft picks eleven
draft picks, but he's really into the undrafted rookie free agents.
Some of them always seem to make the team because
they do the NFL teams, Seahawks are among the most
user friendly for the undrafted freeings. If you missed that conversation,

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or you know earlier about the first place Seattle Marriners.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Yeah, I know which I thought that might be fleeting,
but they have shown some offensive prowess recently. I was
actually mad because they had that two game series. I
was talking to Andrews about this when we were back
at the studio and how it just made me mad
that if they split a series it would end their
series winning streak because it was only two games, right, yeah, yes, exactly.

(54:56):
And I know Andrews and Chris Kidd wrapped up the
NFL Draft on Saturday, and you know, we're talking about
those undrafted free agents and how they could make it,
and we waited a good what would you say, enters
like forty five.

Speaker 8 (55:10):
Minutes for my Yeah, that's pretty standard.

Speaker 3 (55:12):
That was pretty quick. It was pretty quick.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
But they made their final pick, you know, with a
still good like twenty five picks left in the draft, right,
so they're on the horn. They're probably evaluating during those
twenty five picks whether they might have some interaction they
could make as well.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
But those that's when they make those calls.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
They're not supposed to, but that is when every team everybody, okay,
you're not supposed to do any contact to be undrafted,
but what they do is they say, hey, if you
don't get drafted, we want to sign, and they'll do
that as early as fourth or fifth or sixth round.
Now every team in the league does it, and.

Speaker 3 (55:49):
It's the agent's job to make that contact as well.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
So yeah, any anyway, but yeah, that that wasn't actually
the longest way that we've ever had waiting for them
to come out, but just knowing that that's exactly what
they're doing.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
Once the draft ends, they're going to take their sweet
time to get to the media.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
So this year it sounded like they farmed a lot
of that out to their scouts and to their assistance.
One Teasley, for instance, assistant general manager, was instrumental in
signing and getting those deals done, but they did farm
out and delegate some of those responsibilities for signing the
undrafted rookie free agents. Andrews, what interested you on the
still to be named text line? It's open forbidding, by

(56:25):
the way, Yeah, the text line you.

Speaker 8 (56:27):
Got to throw on the bed here first. But at
a lot of people kind of praising the return of
mister Greg Bell.

Speaker 1 (56:33):
So oh, I'm humbled. Yeah, it can't be my wife.
She's in with patient for Filment hospital right now. I
know that for a fact. So she's not in its
populating the text line.

Speaker 8 (56:46):
Yeah, there is some questions on whether they reached a
little bit on Robbie Oots and Ian touched a little
bit on this. I think it was yesterday, maybe it
was two days ago. He was I think slated to
be mostly an undrafted free agent, so they probably could
have gotten him for that. So I'm curious on your thoughts,
Greg Bell and if they reached in order to get
him in.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Well, the reason why they had him higher than any
other team did is because they had him as a fullback,
and very few teams in the NFL have fullbacks on
their roster and want to employ him. So you know,
a team like say the Los Angeles Rams, they're not
going to have a fullback even on their board, so
they would have Hoots on their board. So if enough
teams are in that elk and most of them are

(57:27):
in the league without using a pullback, that's how you
get to be an undrafted status because most teams don't
have a guy on their board. The Seahawks board is
different because it had fullbacks on their board, So that
is why Bots got picked. It maybe was a little
earlier than they even could have gotten Himpour and drafted
him and say round six or seven, but at the
time they did it, they didn't have a six round pick. Yeah,

(57:47):
and they traded down to get that six round pick later,
So there are factors of why.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
He Yeah, and if nothing else, it shows how important
they thought getting a true fullback was into the team
and it needed to be done before. And there's probably
so few of those guys that are available, so you
want to make sure you at least get one of them, right.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
Yeah, think about college football? How many fullbacks although boots
played tight ended? Yeah, how many fullbacks have you seen
in college football? Ye, Stanford formation, there will be I
formation Seattle.

Speaker 8 (58:20):
Oh God, here we go.

Speaker 3 (58:21):
It was a good accent replication right there.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
I just remember the ad I formation.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
I formation.

Speaker 3 (58:27):
Yeah, you know, you don't used a lot, but you
have traditionally used here in Seattle. Though.

Speaker 8 (58:32):
A couple thoughts on names for the p w h
L Seattle Barracudas. I like that kind of in line
with the kraken, a sea deep sea creature. The Seattle Freeze.
I think that'd be a kind of cool one.

Speaker 3 (58:43):
I like the one syllable.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
It goes with you know, you got storm, rain freeze,
you know, and it's it's weather related, and so I
like that one.

Speaker 8 (58:52):
Seattle Mermaids kind of leaning more towards the Yeah, a
women's hockey team, and I.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Think it's two women's I like the Sirens, which we
had a bunch of people write and I like that
better because it leans into the mythical side of it.
Mermaids is a little too little mermaid for it was
a little too Disney for me.

Speaker 8 (59:12):
Yeah, that's fair. The crackeats, that's funny. That's funny, a large.

Speaker 3 (59:23):
Too much like another issue we have in the city
of Seattle.

Speaker 8 (59:26):
So yeah, yeah, lots lots of good uh, lots of
good names.

Speaker 5 (59:32):
Uh.

Speaker 8 (59:33):
I'm seeing a lot of Greg miss you sort of
texts here, So.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Yeah, I like uh a lot of that Seattle. Pine
wave was another one.

Speaker 8 (59:48):
Do we like the Uh? I guess it's still technically
well the non plural names, so like the wave. The
pine oh has been a trend for yes a point. Yeah,
what do we think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I don't mind it. I like I like wave.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
As a sports writer, it's always a question of do
I do singular? Yeah? We always we always end up
deferring the very hard, like the rain.

Speaker 8 (01:00:17):
What do I do that?

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because otherwise it's it so it would
have to be there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
Yes, yes, two of six. Not Greg's wife, but still
great to enjoy the show.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
Yes, my wife is not texting you.

Speaker 8 (01:00:37):
And now I see a text from a certain two
O six. This may be from inside the studio here,
but Greg, what do you think of the Champions League
game yesterday?

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
Mande? Dude, that was one of the better soccer football
matches I have seen.

Speaker 8 (01:00:52):
In a wild man two great teams man and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
It was really fascinating to watch how inner they just
laid back, encountered the whole game. And we're so effective
at doing it, yep. I mean usually when they count
with a team counters, you might get one or two
chances max. They got chance after chance after chance. Yes, countering.

Speaker 7 (01:01:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:01:11):
And what Greg's referring to encounter for maybe a novice
soccer fan is when you kind of know that the
other team likes to have a lot of possession, you
almost let them have it a little bit, let them
have a lot of the ball, kind of sit back
and make sure that you're hard to break down defensively.
But then when you get the ball back, because the
other team's so focused on attacking, there's lots of space
for you to then quickly spring on the counter attack.

(01:01:34):
And there's happened time and time again. The game I'm
referring to is the Barcelona versus inter Milan game yesterday
and the Champions League. I agree with you, Greg, was
one of the best games of soccer I've seen a
long time.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
On the tech signed four nine, four to five one.
Those are their footies out there. Tell me a better
player in the world than your mall right now? No,
and he's seventeen years old.

Speaker 8 (01:01:55):
Yeah, he's the best player in the world and he's seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
That loft off the crossbart late second half. Everyone even
they play by play guy, everyone thinks that's a pass. Yeah.
And I don't say what you will about Ray Hudson.
I love the guy.

Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
Oh, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
I love his passion, I love his poetry Death by
a Thousand Passes. He said that they were one.

Speaker 8 (01:02:15):
Of the love soccer metaphors or similes. Look up Ray
Hudson highlights on YouTube. You will have a field day.
And how much fun that guy hasn't calling his side.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
I know he's not everybody's cup of tea, but when
I heard him on the call yesterday, I was delighted.
And then he just went to work. I mean, Jamal,
he's breathless. Yes, if that guy is at seventeen, can
you imagine Andrews having come up through the youth soccer
ranks and playing college soccer. Can you imagine how good
he was at fourteen fifteen years old? Yeah, and how
much better he was than anybody on any pitch.

Speaker 8 (01:02:48):
The craziest thing I've heard about last night, he's he's
already played one hundred matches for FC Barcelona at age seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
That's insane.

Speaker 8 (01:02:55):
One hundred matches. That's like almost over two years worth
of mat just seventeen. That's crazy, crazy man.

Speaker 1 (01:03:04):
Yeah, he's incredible, man, Yeah, he's incredible.

Speaker 8 (01:03:07):
Yep. I think Okay, everyone is worried about Ronaldo and
Messi retiring and what's going to happen. He's like the
next phase of it for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
My son the college soccer player, and he's graduating from
Washington State this weekend. Actually, that's why I'm not going
to be at Seahawks mini camp tomorrow. I'm driving the
Pullmanson's this show ends.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Oh we wanted to talk about that, yes.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Cook's graduation weekend. I'll start kicking off tomorrow. But my
son was going crazy yesterday watching that game, texting me
and he was he mistakenly tuned in like five minutes
late and he missed a goal and about the first
chances a backield goal at that Dumfries was fantastic too. Yes,

(01:03:46):
Dumfries's gotta be they thirty plus years old Netherlands.

Speaker 8 (01:03:50):
He's an outside back like and he's playing like like
he's a striker. No, man, I'm telling you guys. I
love the Sounders, I love the rain. But if you
want to watch the highest level of soccer beam playing
in the world, it is in the Champions League. It's
not even close. So I understand why some people have
some uh like hesitancies to get into soccer here. It's

(01:04:11):
because you're not watching the highest level being played. Please
please watch the Champions.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
League said the return matches of the tie next weekend
Tuesday and Wednesday. It's on big CBS, so you can
turn it on. You don't even have to have cable
for it. Just pull your TV in and get it on.
Champions than Chiro. That is the text line. Remember it
is to be still to be named. Text line. You
actually got to open and offer to sponsor today on I.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Had more than one and I have written back those
who have been interested. Let's get that conversation started.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Look at that, Tolly, and I came in and got
a sponsor for the whole thing, the whole damn second,
the whole damn station's text line. That's what I contributed to.
Next Dave Softie, you millon. But next Dave SOFTI, MA
is gonna I'm gonna tell him I got a sponsor
for his damn text And that's next A ninety three
point three kJ FM, Welcome back. We're on our horse.

(01:05:21):
It sounds like you're the Virginia Mason athletic city that
I see.

Speaker 10 (01:05:27):
It's funny, you did not know that I felt like that,
right Greg about this rejoined bumper music we have here.

Speaker 7 (01:05:32):
I have the same exact.

Speaker 1 (01:05:34):
React like gun smoke or something.

Speaker 10 (01:05:36):
Yeah, it's like, you know, I'm with a bucket hat
on or something, or a ten gallon hat like you know,
blazing saddles man.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
What the hell hold? That is the voice of Dave
Safti Maller.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Of course, you know when I found you new music,
I just typed in creepy into the library and this
is you know what.

Speaker 7 (01:05:53):
When I see your face, that's what I think, creepy.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
I knew that that nice.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
Let me let me reorient the conversation.

Speaker 7 (01:06:03):
Good to talk to you too, lady. Holy crap, my.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
God, if I may, let me reorient the conversation, looking
forward to having a nice conversation with Greg and you
stick your face into it.

Speaker 7 (01:06:16):
Well, it was my voice in the corner, and just
be quiet. Let the adults talk for a Why.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
I come back for a day and I got here,
I got I came back for Dan. I got you
a potential three potential sponsor for your text line that
I didn't know much boards out for.

Speaker 7 (01:06:32):
Tell us about it.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
We've got some inquirt Where are you sing? I have
them in the right place.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Jesus, unbelievable, man. They're legit though.

Speaker 10 (01:06:43):
The moments like this where you just youve got to
tell yourself. I don't miss this at all, right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
Craig, honestly, this is how crosstalk. Safty and I throwing
barbs at each other.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
All right, let me reord again. And I tried to
pivot one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:56):
Trying to get control of the situation.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
First place, Mariners, Dave Softy, you saw it coming, Yes,
I saw. I know you saw Jorgete Polanco hitting six.
Totally called that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:05):
I called that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I called that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
I did say that when ninety three games though when
the year began.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
So look at that. They seem to be well on
their way to that.

Speaker 10 (01:07:15):
Eighteen and twelve the total the over under was like
eighty four and a half or whatever, and I put
a couple of coins on the over by the way.
But now I'm seeing that the Seahawks. I saw my
buddy Hawk blogger tweeted this out last night that Vegas
has the over under and the Hawks at seven and
a half.

Speaker 7 (01:07:29):
Yeah, it feels like easy money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Yeah, you kids on the outside, that's what happens.

Speaker 7 (01:07:33):
When taking a bottle of whiskey from a drunk guy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
Man, are you kidding me? Just give me that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:38):
That's easy money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
My god. Well, they still got some line of scrimmage issues.

Speaker 7 (01:07:42):
Oh you stopped that right now, You stop that right now.

Speaker 10 (01:07:46):
They have solidified the offensive, live with the arrival the
Great White Hope and Gray's Abel. The Gray White Hope
is back, baby, to save our ass and save Schneider's bacon, the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Most a weighted les garden NFL history. Coming to see
how this is going to be interesting today at three
point thirty in the press conference here, what of all
the picks, eleven of them will tie for most yes
of the Snyder erop yes. Which one do you get
jazzed about the most?

Speaker 10 (01:08:13):
Well, the guy from Iowa, Mason Richmond. I'm just really
curious what happened to him. He started like forty games
at left tackle of Iowa, So how does that happen?
Where a guy like that falls that far in the draft.
So I'm just curious about him. I'm obviously curious about
Emon Warri, his position coach. By the way, Tory and
Gray from South Carolina is going to be with us
in about twenty five minutes on the radio show.

Speaker 7 (01:08:35):
There's been a lot of comparisons to Cam Chancellor.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
From from Wori himself.

Speaker 7 (01:08:39):
Right, Well, he coached him.

Speaker 10 (01:08:42):
He coached Cam at Virginia Tech, and he coached Emon
Warri at South Carolina.

Speaker 7 (01:08:46):
So we'll get we'll get Torrian on.

Speaker 10 (01:08:48):
I mean, if he's if he's even a reasonable facsimile
of Cam Chancellor, then look out right. So we'll talk
to you about that. But I think those two guys
probably fire me up the most. I mean I can
just sit here and give you reasons why every other
pick is exciting. I mean, the Jalen Milroe thing is
obviously the most intriguing one, just to see what.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
They do with him.

Speaker 7 (01:09:06):
And I remember I said on the air, I'll tell
you what I said on the air. Last week.

Speaker 10 (01:09:09):
I was asked by Dick and Jackson what I want
him in the first three rounds? And I said, absolutely not.
Do I want Jalen Milroe in the first three rounds? Now,
technically he was a third round draft pick, but without
comp picks, he was four picks away from the fourth round.

Speaker 7 (01:09:23):
So I'll settle for it. It's fine, right, But I
was wrong, But I was.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
I was all, can you da I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:33):
Have I have?

Speaker 10 (01:09:34):
By the way, Greg, you want to hear this is
my new uh one of my new favorite drops that
I like to use now on the radio.

Speaker 8 (01:09:39):
I'm just an idiot. I give him an idiot.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I give him a gym every once in a while.
I think that's because I proceeded that with I trust Softy.

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
What if I miss for all?

Speaker 10 (01:09:51):
I don't know, Man, it's falling apart. We needed we
needed an adult in the room. And when you left,
the whole thing just went to hell.

Speaker 1 (01:09:57):
Man.

Speaker 7 (01:09:57):
It's like mom and Dad went that for the evening.
The kids just burned the place down.

Speaker 1 (01:10:01):
Dude, exactly. Seriously, do you know what position Cam Chancellor
was when we got to virgin Tech? Very first?

Speaker 7 (01:10:07):
I believe he was a tight end or a quarterback
when he was a quarterback.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Yes, quarter freshman year. I was watching USC and Virginia
Tech at the Redskins Old Park and the Commander's Park
in landover right. They were playing an opening game on ESPN, right,
and they mentioned this freshman that was six three six
four two twenty. Yeah, you know why, Chancellor.

Speaker 10 (01:10:25):
You know why quarterback is When a guy that shows
up and looks like Cam Chancellor says I want to
play quarterback.

Speaker 7 (01:10:29):
You say, Okay, whatever you want, Boss, your call.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
So you got Torrian Gray dude about twenty five minutes.

Speaker 10 (01:10:38):
Who else you got the Brett Boone's gonna hop on
a four and talk about the red Hot Mariners, baby,
and then lent Zerline, NFL Network, NFL Dot comm gonna
recap the draft courtesy at queen An Beer Hall round
five twenty and plus we'll hear a bit from grays
Abel as the show goes on. So, hey, thank you
for babysitting Jessman. By the way, we appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
Thank thank you for letting me rejoin your world for
a day long. Appreciate it all right, Thank you, Dave,
Dave Saftie Maller, Hugh Milliner up next again. Thank you.
It's great to be back, even if it was for
a day. The Infnest will be back tomorrow. I'm at
the Virginia Mason Athletics Center with Anderson Hurst and Jessmin McIntyre.
Thank you for listening. We will talk to you next

(01:11:21):
Thursday with the Infness in the same guest lineup as today,
but right now Hugh Millin, Dave Safty Maller on ninety
three point three KJRFF for.

Speaker 7 (01:11:29):
The mild mannered and marginally objectionable e Infness. This is
paddle day, saying so long everyone,

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