Furness Show 5-21: No More USC vs Notre Dame, Pat Forde, John Lund.

Ian relives a great weekend celebrating his son's graduation. In the tumultuous world of college football, losing the USC v Notre Dame rivalry is a sad reflection of where we are right now. The tush push lives on! Plus, would you want your Seahawks to play in Olympic flag football?  Pat Forde, Sports Illustrated tells us why it's a sad day for college football, knowing the USC v Notre Dame rivalry is going away. He says the NIL is less of a problem in college football than the transfer portal.  Ian thinks the future head coach of the Kraken is not one anyone is thinking about right now.  John Lund, Unleashed! John joins us from outside the Brock Purdy press conference and shares some insight from what he learned. Is Purdy really worth the amount the Niners are paying him? Plus, some reaction to the 'tush push'.  Checking in on the Text Line!  Crosstalk with Dick Fain!

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I did not plan well. You know who planned well.
My friends at Whitworth University planned well. But I like that. Yeah,
it was. It was great. We had a really good time.
I know this. I cannot keep up with kids, even
at a Catholic or not a Catholic, even at a
private school. I cannot keep up with the kids anymore.
We had a long three day weekend.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
It only took you to this time.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
To figure that out. Yeah, pretty much, pretty much, that
was it. It was. It was fun though, you know,
like kind of the end of an era for us.
You know, watching you know, watching your kids grow up
is is awesome. It's also emotional at times too. The
emotions were all good though. It was. It was really cool.

(00:41):
I got to give a shout out to the kid man.
He's he's a special dude. He graduated cum laude, which
we're taking pictures. I don't know if he's humble, or
if he's naive or all the above. I don't even know.
I don't know if he even cares. But you know,
I was certainly not the best student in the world.

(01:03):
My wife will tell you even she was, she wasn't
a great student either. I mean, we got through it
and stuff, and we got through it. I mean we
she was better than me, but we got through it,
right And but you know, you always want your kids
to be better than you, right, Like that's what you want.
You want your kids to be better than you. And
we're taking pictures on Saturday on campus. His girlfriend was

(01:26):
in town. She she just graduated from Coastal Carolina. She
played soccer there and was a stud She was a
defensive Player of the Week once this year. I just
I'm really proud of Viv too, but were and so
they she had her cap and gowns. So we took
pictures of them together and then took pictures separately with Kiefer.
And he had the courts. Hey, all these courts. They
have cool stuff for student athletes and some other things,

(01:48):
but they had these courts. I go, what are the
courts for? I don't know. I think he goes, I
think great point average or something. And I was like,
I love it, and I like and I look at
Viv and she just kind of she just and she
was this. She was the political science student of the
Year at her University of Coastal Carolina. UH graduated like
a three nine five going to law school at SEATTLEU.

(02:09):
So she's a brainiac and a student athlete. But she
looks I look at she just rolls her eyes and
shakes her head. She's just like, oh my god, Like,
what is wrong with you?

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Kid?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
And I said, dude, seriously, like what's it for? Just
great point or something? I don't know. Well, then we're
looking through the program on Sunday, Sunday morning, we get there.
It was probably the one time I kind of got
I choked up a little bit. You know, it has
his name in the program looking through it and it says, uh,
you know Keifer Furness, you know Maple Valley cum laude.
And I'm like, dude, like you graduated with the honors

(02:39):
of kum la Like what He's like, h yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think I might. That's just so funny, just.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
No clue whatsoever. And and I just which I was
more impressed with because we played golf yesterday at Druid's
and he kicked my ass, because that's all I think
he's been doing. They found him and his buddy, his roommate,
his roommate's friend went, his roommate went to meet high school,
and his buddy had a his friend from high school
that he was a linebacker at Whitworth is one of

(03:08):
his roommates. His good friend from college or from I'm
sorry from high school is assistant pro to golf course.
So they had it dialed in. He's played more golf
than I will all year in the last month. And
I'm like, well, like, are you even going to class?
Apparently he was? Apparently he was. I so good for him.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
I think it's usually traditionally over a three point seven, yeah,
three point seven five something like that. That's at least
at my school is a three point seven.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yeah, I don't even know what it is. It was
good and so and I said, well, because he beat
me by nine strokes yesterday, which is the worst he's
ever beaten me. And I'm like, you apparently were going
to class and playing golf. Good for you. You know,
he got everything out of college shit. But no, it
was a really good dive. We went to their dive
bar Friday and Sunday, had a great time Saturday at
No Lie. Good shout out to our friends at No
Lie that bringing Gary Parrish all year. So we spent

(03:54):
a good four hour session at No Lie on Saturday.
So that was a ton of fun out there. If
you're in Spokane, make sure you swing by there. Those
guys support our show and us a lot, so we
really appreciate them. So he has a good, good weekend.
And then we had to move him home and he's
been living the same house with seven guys for the
last two years, so that was something. On Monday yesterday
was a reset day, play some golf, and back here today.

(04:14):
So thanks for everyone. I think it was Faine and
Bell filled in for me.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Is that right, Yes, it was Jack on Monday and
then Greg Bell.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Yes, perfect, Well, thanks to those two guys for filling in.
I appreciate them. I appreciate you guys as well. And
away we go. We have a fun show coming up today.
The I read here our guest list is just follows.
I think I think we're gonna have London too, but
that could change, Jess, depending on other things that are
happening elsewhere in the country. Yes, but we think we

(04:43):
have London too, I know this. Coming up to the
bottom of the hour, we're going to check in with
Pat Forty from SI dot com, a long time college
athletics scribe journalists. I'd say college football, but he writes
on all things college athletics. He wrote a story, Yes Stray,
that caught my attention that was just it was really good,

(05:05):
And what it was was he was talking about the
loss of rivalries in college athletics, which I found it
interesting because I feel like, for far too long there
have been a lot of these. A lot of national
writers have just ignored the traditions of college athletics, especially football,

(05:26):
but traditional rivalries have long just kind of forgotten about
those and kind of dismissed them as no big deal.
The fabric of college athletics to me, and everyone has
their own opinions on what it means and maybe life,
you know, things change. You know, I just talked about
the evolution of my son graduating. Both kids are done,

(05:46):
two kids, three degrees. Thanks for coming.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
We're done the big life change.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah yeah, hopefully we can now focus in on mom
and dad and maybe retirement someday and all that fun stuff.
But you know, things do change. I get that life
doesn't stay the same. It moves fast. But the great
thing about college athletics forever has been and have been
has been the rivalries that exist between schools that are

(06:12):
anything like sometimes they're traditional geographic rivals. Sometimes they're in
state rivals, interconference rivals, whatever it might be. And Matt
has been that has gone away. Power wrote a great story.
And what I liked about it is not that not
only did I agree with everything he wrote, because you know,
I'll have guys on I don't agree with That's fine.
But what I liked about the story was the fact

(06:36):
that he blamed USC. And what I mean by that
is this, he blamed USC in this sense he brought
up Texas and Texas and Oklahoma going to the SEC,
the changing of the world in college athletics. Listen the

(06:59):
Big Twelve, as he points out, and I agree, the
Big Twelve was a tenuous at best, not a lot
of history type of conference because remember we used to
have a little Southwest Conference and it merged with the
WAG all the different things, you know, so is it
kind of a like a conglomeration of things. It did
not have one hundred years of history like the PAC
twelve did. But USC, in what is only could only
be termed a money grab, decided that they're going to

(07:23):
move to the Big Ten. They would bring UCLA along
because cash strapped, as he said, UCLA really had no choice.
UCLA had no choice. They had to go. Well, that
just started the whole the demolition of the PAC twelve,
which right wrong, in different good bad, doesn't matter. The

(07:43):
PAC twelve at one hundred plus year, a century worth
of tradition. It was the West Coast premiere conference. Geographically,
it's needed. It was needed for a lot of different things,
including television, which still to this day makes no sense
to me. Nevertheless, we go through that. But the PAC
twelve was demolished. Why because USC and is money grab
and the gist of it also came out to is

(08:04):
this because there's a lot of stuff. I think I
would assume SOFTI is off today, right, I would assume
that I would assume that Faine has Petros on today.
I would hope. I'll check with Jackson.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
We will have to check it.

Speaker 1 (08:17):
But because I know Petros has been losing it and
as have others. Because wait for it, the USC Notre
Dame rivalry is probably coming to an end. Why is that, Well,
because USC doesn't want to go and play another game
in the Midwest every other year. They tried what Washington
tried to do with the Apple Cup. Some Bastardiye here

(08:38):
we go, let's play in a neutral site Apple Cup
last year in Lumenfield for example type thing. Would we
play USC Notre Dame in wherever, uh, you know, Indianapolis
in the you know, in the cold stadium there, or
would we play like what will we do?

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Right?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Like like like they're looking at this and it's just
a pure money grab. Lost in all that is the
tradition of USC, USC and Notre Dame, which is one
of the great traditional rivalrieson of all college sports in football,
and Pat's right like this, it's just what's going on
here is wrong. I saw today Matt Rule, the coach

(09:14):
at Nebraska, said, you know what, we should should probably
look at doing a forty team playoff for college Like
what are we doing? It didn't work with the with
the BCS, with two teams playing because inevitably it just
wasn't there were other teams deserving of a playoff berth
or a chance in the national championship. It definitely did
not work. It definitely did not work when we just voted, right,

(09:34):
we just voted like arbitrarily, very subjective. You're the national
champion now, sometimes it might be obvious. You know, you've
won every game you played on your schedule, blah blah blah,
all that stuff. Okay, we get that. But where we've gone,
especially in college football, and the thought that we may
end up going to a bigger tournament in college basketball,

(09:55):
it's just wrong. It's just wrong. But it took no
not to have a little bit of Christons for pat.
It took USC Notre Dame, for people to kind of
get their attention to go, wait a second, this isn't right,
This isn't good for college sports. We're getting of you know,
John McKay, Newt Rockney, you know, Pete Carroll, the the
Bush push with Reggie Bush getting pushed, you know, pushing

(10:16):
Matt Leiner and Angel and all those things. You know,
all the great all the great things that we had
in college. It took that to get people's attention. You
guys know my stance. The Apple Cup to me died
after the final year of it in Husky Stadium two
years ago. Cam Ord couldn't figure out a way to
win that game. You should have still ended up being
the number one overall pick. But that's when it ended

(10:37):
to me. An Apple Cup in September is not the
Apple Cup in my mind, never will be just can't
replicate it. They'll play the game. It's cool. We beat
him last year. If we beat him next year, I'll
be thrilled. They'll be great. But we move on because
it happens early in the season. There's there's ten games
left in the year by the time they play, or
after they play. That's not that's not the Apple Cup
Civil War. Same thing in Oregon. That's not. That's not

(10:59):
what you're doing. It's it's not that. That's not the
Civil War. I'm sorry, I'm gonna call it that because
that's what they call it down there, So don't text
me I want that's not what it is. They moved
on and I get listen. I don't like the fact
Washington left. I don't like it in one bit. I
hate it. I hate how I hate how it came about.

(11:22):
I hate how it was done kind of with some deception.
But I understand why Washington left and Oregon left. I
understand that when USC and UCLA left the conference. I
think a lot of us hope that we could kind
of survive, we could put this thing back together. Tell
Washington and Oregon could have been the flagships for football.

(11:43):
Arizona and UH and whoever could have been Arizona and
Oregon probably would have been flagships for basketball. Have been fine.
We could have put it back together out of San
Diego State along the way, maybe out of UNLV, get
back to twelve teams in the Pac twelve and with
some of those schools it would still be a Power
five conference. But I guess reality is as soon as
USC left, it was over. And now USC is the

(12:03):
one that's trying to screw up the tradition of Notre
Dame and USC a long time tradition. So we'll talk
about that with Pat Ford coming up today at forty.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
I should say forty.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Forty coming up today at one thirty. Yeah, but I
look forward to is really good and we'll all send
a link out later. We'll just send it out from
the station account history because it was really really good. Yes,
a couple of other things that want to hit on today.
The tush push lives on. Oh Hugh, I'm sorry, buddy,
The tush it four nine four five one. You can

(12:35):
comment on any of these comments, any of these things today,
but the tush push lives on today. There's it's it's
a really funny thing that this this push sort part
of the punt, but the push for the tush push
had come from a handful of teams, some individ I
think Detroit was near the top of a green bay.
I guess at the top of the list in you know,

(12:56):
in the NFC. But the toush push lives on. Is
it a football player not a football player? I think
that's the most subjective thing.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
In the world.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
I think you could have arguments both ways. You could
certainly make an argument that it was that it's not
a football play, it's a rugby play, which is not football,
which I'm going to get to something else is in
football in a second. But you could make that argument.
Or you could make the argument that at the most
basic core of what the game is is you exerting

(13:31):
your will on your opponent at the line of scrimmage,
and that, in a sense would be football. I never
honestly had a strong feeling one way or the other.
Bad sports talk guy, I'm sorry, don't have I just don't.
It had become such a hot topic amongst NFL media
and others, fans, etc. I just didn't have a strong,

(13:54):
strong opinion on it one way or the other. If
it went away, fine, If it didn't, that's fine. The
only thing I could think of, Jess, honestly, is the
impact it had on fantasy football. And here's why.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
I think that's where the real.

Speaker 1 (14:09):
Jalen Hurts had twenty nine touchdowns the last two years rushing,
and I believe it was like twenty five of the
twenty nine geames inside the five yard line something like that.
I mean, it was an extraordinary number.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
This is actually money.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, this is actually a Brandon Funston topic, our fantasy
football guy. That's what this topic is. It's a Funston
topic because twenty nine rushing touchdowns by a quarterback who's okay,
he's got some wheels. He's not Josh Allen, he's not
Lamar Jackson. He doesn't have those wheels, but he's got
some wheels. But he got it because the dude could

(14:46):
squat six hundred and fifty pounds. That's why he got it.
That's what That's what happened there. So I bring all
of that up for this reason. The touch puss lives on.
If you're a fantasy football player and you have the
ability to keep Jalen Hurts, you do so because he
remains a top five pick in fantasy football. That's all

(15:06):
that matters to us. The rest of it. You know what,
if you play him, you stop it, you move on,
and that's all it is. We'll probably talk about that
a little bit more tomorrow with Corbin Smith when he
joins us for his weekly visit because there's some other rules,
the seeding in the NFL debate and all that stuff
going on. We'll get into that with Corbyn tomorrow. But
I think just for our for my audience, who I know,
because we see the text, we see the phone calls

(15:28):
every Thursday, yor in football season, you care about fantasy football.
Jalen Hurts went from being a premier high draft pick
in fantasy football with the tush push twenty nine rushing
touchdowns combined. I think it was fourteen last year, fifteen
the year before, vice versus doesn't matter. It's fourteen to fifteen.
He could have gone from that to being I don't know,
a later draft pick. Nope, he's still a barquee guy

(15:50):
because a tush push lives on and nobody can figure
out a way to stop the damn thing. That's it.
So we'll get to that a little bit more with
Corbin tomorrow and the final thing, speaking of football, you
know what isn't football? We could debate all day long.
The tousch push. We could debate that all day long.
Is it touch push? Football is a touchbush?

Speaker 7 (16:08):
Not?

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Football is a rugby and it kind of looks like
rugby to me if I was and I let me
take a step back, if I were to be pressed
into a corner. Ian give us your thoughts. What do
you think about the touch push? Should it be legal?
Should it not be legal? I would probably say no.
I would probably say it is the games evolved to
the point pass leather helmets and scrums and everything else,

(16:30):
that it is a rugby play. That's probably the side
of lean on. I'd probably go down that road. I
just I just didn't care enough to worry about that.
But but but what I know what is in football,
and that's something called flag football, which is now going
to the Olympics. I can't fathom why the debate will

(16:56):
be do you and I saw I think the station
account today on on x slash Twitter put out a
thing do you want the Seahawks players to play in?

Speaker 3 (17:04):
You know?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And all that? Well, I guess I don't really care.
I don't think I'd want them to play. There's you know,
I remember the Roberts somebody what was his name? There's
a why there's a running back. He was a rookie
from the New England Patriots years ago that played on
the they had like a flag football thing on the

(17:27):
beach in Hawaii at the Pro Bowl and destroyed his
knee and never played again. Basically, right, So I guess
I'd say I'd rather them not. But and I wish
Chris Kid was here because I've had this debate with
him before. Flag football is not football.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Oh, he would totally dig into this.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Football. Football is football is about tackling and blocking it.
What we're talking about is a game of tag that's
played in the playground and you can call it seven
on seven. Now, is there a place for that? Sure?
In training? Absolutely. College coaches want to see guys play
play seven on seven. They want to see quarterbacks and

(18:06):
wide receivers. They want to see, you know, guys, can
a guy cover a receiver and all that stuff. But
there is no blocking. There is no pass rush, there
is there's none of that. You run arount and listen.
I think there's a place for it. Absolutely, there's a
place for it in terms of training. But in the Olympics,
what do we the Olympics years ago got rid of.

(18:26):
I think they just brought it back, right, the women's
softball fast pitch softball? Yes, do you remember why? A
refresher memory?

Speaker 2 (18:34):
The reason why they canceled it, or why they brought
it back?

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Why they canceled it? Oh, it was non competitive for
any country not named Canada or the United States. Either
Daniel Lourie for Canada or whoever Jenny Finch for the
US was going to win a gold medal every year.
Nobody else played it, not at a high level. Hell,
I'll be honest with you. We're just now starting to
see women soccer at that level become good enough like

(18:59):
other teams. Besides forever it was US, Canada, the US, Canada, Japan.
We're starting to see some other teams become good in
Europe and so forth. But they got rid of fast
pitch because no one could be competitive. Who's going to
be competitive in a game of glorified tag where you
throw a football round besides the United States, who's gonna
be Who's going to be competitive?

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Uh? Maybe Canada because there's a couple of players from
the NFL, who are from Canada.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
We do not have a wide.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
Broad global reach when it comes to the NFL, which
would probably exactly why they're doing this.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
But would they be competitive would be the question? Yep, right,
would that be the question? Anyway?

Speaker 2 (19:39):
No, So the NFL could get their fingers in other countries, but.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
At what cost you're gonna have? So Lamar jacks Like,
who actually wouldn't want one Lamar Jackson? You probably wants.
I don't know, Pat Mahomes throwing to Jamar to you know,
justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase, and I think who's going
to cover them from from Great Britain.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
It's a it's a that's not worth taking.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
A dumb idea. Yes, it's a dumb idea, is what
it is. All Right, I'm done for now. Pat forty
is going to join us. Come it up next.

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I'm excited to have him on. Pat Forty is the

(20:52):
senior writer for Sports Illustrated. Covers college football, college basketball,
and so much more. I always just think him of
his college sports writer, kind of the godfather in so
many ways of that, and he joins us right now
in the Beacon Plumbing hotline. Hi, Pat, how are you
doing Wellye?

Speaker 6 (21:05):
And happy to be on with you.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
I appreciate you doing this. I've admired your work for
many years from Afar and the various places you've been
at as well. And like you, I have a your daughter.
I've loved watching you kind of chronicle of her success
swimming and everything else, and I think that's awesome. As
a student athlete, which I'm gonna get to in a second.
I have a son that just graduated he was a
college football player small college, which I think is an

(21:27):
important part of college athletics, but another important part. You
wrote the story yesterday and it just resonated with me.
I'm a Washington State alum, and so what happened with
the PAC twelve really cuts to the core for me.
The headline for patstoryedesli dot com. USC versus Notre Dame
football rivalry must continue. But it's much more deep than that.
Let me just start with this, Pat, what pushed you

(21:49):
just to kind of There's a lot of things to
write about in college sports right now and even college football.
What got you to this point? What was a tipping point?
USC and Notre Dame and that great tradition?

Speaker 6 (21:59):
Yeah, you know, I just think that rivalry. I mean,
I'm old. I've been around this for a long time,
and I grew up watching that game in the nineteen
seventies and to watch you know that Thanksgiving weekend SoCal
Sunshine and then you know, the lights come on and
the game ends at night, and it's always a great game.

(22:20):
And then when they're play in South Bend and it's
autumn and the leaves are turning and you get a
little crisp Midwestern air, and the teams are great, and
the traditions are great, and the players are great, and
to me, it's just one of the great rivalries out there,
and to be at a point of potentially losing it,
I think it's an outrage. And I think kind of

(22:42):
points to USC kind of dismantling its own heritage to
a degree here in recent years.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
USC. You kind of point this out in the article,
and I agree. I mean, I listen, I don't like
I mentioned this in our first segment. I didn't. I
really didn't like when Washington and Oregon bolted for the
Big ten, because that was that was kind of the
final thing that as soon as that happened, every you know,
the other the corner schools were going to all go
down to the Big twelve, and that was gonna lead,
you know, the acc up in the air with Stanford
Cow which still obviously makes no sense whatsoever, and then

(23:12):
of course left the two lang grand schools augustate and
watch the state to fend from themselves and try to rebuild.
I don't blame Washington for do it. I don't. I
don't like them doing it. I don't like how they
did it, but I don't blame them as you point
it out. I'll let you kind of explain to our audience.
The demise of the PAC twelve in many many ways
does rest on the shoulders of USC, does it not?

Speaker 6 (23:31):
It does in my opinion. You know that they really
swung the first and most lethal blow uh to the
PAC twelve when they and obviously UCLA left for the
Big Ten. And I think really it was the triggering
point to not just the demise of the Big of
the PAC twelve, but really a lot of the damage

(23:52):
that was done to college sports and realignment. Texas certainly
started it, you could say, when they in Oklahoma went
to the SEC a year earlier. But you know, the
Big twelve didn't have the longevity and the regional kind
of anchor that the PAC twelve was.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
You know, that was an.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Amalgam of two conferences that was thrown together in the
mid nineties and they never got along, and the PAC
twelve was something different entirely in my opinion, and USC
absolutely triggered the implosion there. And yes, I mean you
can you can absolutely say that some responsibility rest with
Washington in Oregon for finishing it off, so to speak.

(24:34):
But the whole thing was thrown into major jeopardy when
USC left in a move that maybe makes financial sense,
but makes no sense in any other capacity. It doesn't
make sense geographically, it doesn't make sense for your athlete
well being, it doesn't make sense for tradition. It's no
fun for the fans who all of a sudden have

(24:55):
to get excited about playing Rutgers in Maryland. And it's
it's I thought it was very bad for college football,
other than the fact that USC and UCLA could make
more money.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
Pat Forty joining us here on the Beacon Plumbing hot line,
how important in your mind? I mean, I think I'm
gonna know the answer. I'll ask you thet This is
a softball question of the day for you. Pat. How
important is tradition in college sports?

Speaker 6 (25:15):
That's pretty good softball there. I mean, it's really the
lifeblood of it to a large degree, you know. I
mean the games that people casual fans across the country
stop what they're doing on a holiday weekend and watch
are Ohio State, Michigan, Auburn, Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Georgia,

(25:39):
Georgia Tech, USC Notre Dame. And those games matter, first
of all to the fans themselves and the alums. They
matter deeply. But that is part of the reason that
you get people like me, as a kid in Colorado
to stop everything and say, I need to watch these
really cool rivalries as they play out on Thanksgiving weekend.

(26:01):
And there's so many people like that around the country.
And you know, football is such a kind of ritualistic,
rhythmic sport, you know, and people just kind of get
into those rituals. And if you start tearing them down
and taking them away, and it becomes even more NFL light,
there's just not a lot of the actual charm to

(26:23):
the sports.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
It's left at forty joining us. Do you think we've
reached a point of no return or can we ever
get back to some sense of normalcy? I bring this
only in this sense, pat, like when we're talking about
expanded playoffs, you know, maybe even a division one that
looks like, you know, thirty or forty teams basically the
big ten in the SEC and nobody else. You know,

(26:45):
all those things that just the professionalism of college football
nil aside, you know, the house suiticide, all those other
things aside. Have we reached a point of no return?
Do you think.

Speaker 6 (26:59):
I can't say for sure, it feels like it, or
it feels like we are heading that way, you know,
like we're right kind of there on the precipice. And
you know, I don't in any means I want to
say NIL has ruined college football. I don't think it has,
because the players should have been paid decades ago and

(27:19):
they weren't, and now they're getting paid. The transfer policies
I think are problematic, but that's also been forced upon
college sports by the courts. Yeah, and so you know
that was an involuntary thing. The realignment stuff is voluntary,
that self sabotage, that self inflicted wounds. Where this is headed.

(27:40):
I mean, I think everybody can look and say, okay,
twenty thirty, twenty thirty one, twenty thirty two, when the
major television contracts that are currently binding things in place
come up, that's probably when the next major thing happens.
And I think most people think the next will be

(28:01):
a further consolidation of who can actually play for a
national championship and who cannot, who gets kicked to the curb,
who does not, And that's probably when we have we
have arrived at the point of no concern or no
no return there.

Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, I think again, this is a Wazoo fan in me.
But I was actually, I'll go back even further in
time because I'm also old. I was in Salt Lake City.
I just started working there. I was actually doing hockey,
but I just started working there when the Breakaway eight
started the Mountain West Conference. I was there for that
first year of that, and they left the Whack and
that was Utah and BYU New Mexico, San Diego State
Air Force, et cetera. That started that that conference. And

(28:38):
you know, I remember like people people called, people called
the Mountain West Conference the Whack for years and years,
and I understood why they did it. Though they were
trying to they were trying to better themselves. They were
trying not to get drugged down by some of the
other you know, the also rans in there, including a
funny thing Utah State, who they left behind. But they
did that, you know, for those reasons, but they also
left a lot of rivalries. Intact ended up working well.

(29:00):
But then I look back and I say, well, like
the cool thing about that was whether you're in the
Mountain West Conference, whether you're Oregon State or Hell Arizona
in football, whatever it might be, you had a chance
to compete with the big boys every week, like you
could knock off Oregon, you could knock off us. Pete
Carroll's USC team couldn't win in Corvallis. It felt like
for years, right they'd go play there. It felt like
a Thursday night in the fog, and that was something

(29:22):
else that's only college football special. If we go to
that consolidation, Pat, we'll never get that again, will we.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Well, yeah, I think we further reduced, yes, the chances
for an Oregon State to have a special period in
time for as you mentioned in Arizona, Washington State, you
know that played in Rose Bulls to have that chance
to take on a Michigan in the Rose Bowl. No,
you know, those things are all being disposed of, and

(29:52):
the trend toward even further, you know, reduction of chances
and opportunities is seems pretty apparent. You know, they want
to remake the playoff with sixteen teams, but they want
to guarantee bids for the SEC and Big ten double
the bids for them. They shouldn't need to have anything predetermined.

(30:14):
They're good enough on their own. And this is just
rigging the system. And if we get to a point,
which we probably will where the SEC and Big ten
also says we're just going to schedule each other non
conference because it's going to help our TV deals. That
cuts out more games for teams in the ACC and
the Big twelve and you know, the new Pac twelve

(30:35):
and the other group of five conferences to have any
chance to even.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
Play those teams.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
So, you know, this is a self fulfilling prophecy. They're
going to continue to rig things in their favor, the
teams that the programs and the conferences that have the
most money.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Peder wrap it up with this, I think there's collateral
damage to that. I worry about, you know, and I know, listen, football,
we all know football carries the weight of the financial
and the financial burden of athletic departments. That's that's the
way it has been forever, and you know, right wrong
and different, that's just kind of the way it is.
But it also provides opportunities for literally, you know, thousands
and thousands of other student athletes across the country in

(31:13):
non revenue sports to a continue their careers and continue
to be able to compete. But more importantly, a lot
of those, you know, young people wouldn't have a chance
and an education if not for that as well, which
is kind of the whole crux of a university, I
would think. Now I mentioned my son plays small college football,
I'm seeing it at that level, the pushdown of kids,
high school kids that aren't getting opportunity more because the

(31:35):
transfer portal coming down. They're not even having walk ons
at my son's school anymore. And that has nothing with NCAA.
They just don't have room because there's so many kids
coming down now to smaller institutions where there is no
athletic scholarship. Are you concerned, especially with your background and
with your family, of the collateral damage that could destroy
the opportunity for so many kids to have athletic scholarships

(31:56):
in the future.

Speaker 6 (31:58):
Now there's the real softballigan for me.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
I know it is. I know it is. I know
what I'm doing here very.

Speaker 6 (32:02):
Passionately about this.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Yes, yes, I uh.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
I got had three kids at swam in college, and
the Olympic sports are very much in jeopardy. I was
just at a night commission meeting yesterday in Indianapolis where
they devoted a lot of time and a lot of
energy and talking from smart people about this, uh you know,
involved in college sports, and they're all very worried. They

(32:27):
you know that the the math is not mathing, if
you will, in terms of making sure there's going to
be scholarship money, uh enough might have a program, travel
money for swimming, volleyball, softball, wrestling, soccer, and on and on.
And yet to your point, there's there's five hundred thousand

(32:50):
kids that play NCAA sports and you're taking away potentially
opportunities from them so that we can cantinue to take
care of football. And I get it. Football makes the money,
and football deserves most of the money and gets most
of the money. But it has never been a situation

(33:11):
where football, you know, college sports was never created so
football could have everything and nothing else existed. That's never
been the way it's been. I don't think that's the
way it should be. A lot of the best students
on campuses are athletes. They get higher grades, they actually
transfer less than regular students. And to reduce that population,

(33:35):
to make sure that your thirteenth financial analyst gets paid
to you know, break down third and short for the
upcoming opponent just really is the wrong. It's the wrong idea.
It's not what college sports is about. So but there is.
We're at a real reckoning point there and I'm not
sure how this is going to work out, but eventually

(33:57):
I think a couple of major program are going to
start whacking Olympic sports. Somebody's going to be first, and
somebody's going to start taking real heat for it. But
then once they start, others will follow.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
And they're going to see the fall out at that point,
especially with the title nine battles that are going to
ensue and everything else that's going to happen, and we'll see. Well,
it helps when we have, you know, powerful voices like
you writing stuff like you did yesterday. I think that
does help bring because it's just sometimes the awareness is
just a football and I look, I'm a football parent.
I love football. Think it's a great thing that ever
happened to my kid. It changed him immensely, and there's

(34:31):
a place for it. There's a place for but there's
a place for all of these sports and that's kind
of my concern as well. Pat, great stuff. Really enjoy
talking to you today. Hopefully we can do it again.
I appreciate jes getting you on today. I heard you
had a nice compliment to her yesterday, and I would
share those feelings. I'm very lucky to have her running
my show. I think you guys go back to the
ESPN day. So thank you so much for coming on today.

Speaker 6 (34:50):
Yep, happy to do it. Thank you, Ian, thank you, Jess.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Thank you, thank you very much. It's Pat forty from
SI dot com, longtime college football and college writer along
the way, and I love to have him on to
the last stuff he said, Jess. Maybe we'll clip that
last cut and use that later on this week. That
was very powerful stuff. All right. Uh wa, wait went late,
Sorry about that. Let's take a quat. Yeah, that was
where Let's take a quick break to a quick daily

(35:14):
power play coming up.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
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Speaker 3 (35:46):
Dot dot dot.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
All right, not a lot of time for daily power play.
I was gonna mention, gotta be careful here. Notice story
in the sale t'mes today regarding cracking coaching search.

Speaker 2 (36:03):
Yes, I did read that.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Actually, I'll just I'm gonna just say that I just
didn't find there to be anything in there worth reading.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
Didn't let us know anything that we've been.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Well, no, there's not, there's it just it's a nothing burger.
I'm gonna I'll find out more. I got some stuff
going on tomorrow. I think that they are. I think
there's some erroneous stuff out there. In terms there's between
reporting and rumors, like yes, and I think I think

(36:39):
it's a very fine line between the two. The Talcket thing,
Are they really going after Jeff plas Hill? I don't
think so. Does it seem to make any sense at all?
I think I've told you before. I think there's another
name out there that we're not discussing enough. In fact,

(37:00):
there's like three names that I know are being discussed
internally that weren't even mentioned in that article today. The
other thing about it is this timing is everything in
hiring a coach, and sometimes when you have I don't know,
key leadership that are unavailable or doing other things or
out of town or what have you, or meetings and

(37:20):
things like that, there's no sense of urgency to hire
the coach unless it was unless you truly were trying
to beat somebody else to the punch and outbit like
if you really really wanted Rick first of all, if
they really want to Rick Talcket, they would have got
Rick Talcket. I'm pretty confident that for this reason, I

(37:41):
think in part, I think so and maybe a couple guys,
I think they're doing their due diligence. I like the
fact that they didn't just hire somebody snap of the fingers.
Could be somebody still involved the playoffs. There's four teams
left still, who knows. But anyway, I just I I
was a little frustrated by that. When I read that today,
I was like, you're missing, like there's like four as
three four names or anything mentioning and like this didn't

(38:03):
like it, just didn't like it. Well, I thought it
was nothing. I thought it was a nothing burger. And
I guess I'm very defensive of the of the organization,
and I just think that sometimes it's easy to trash
when we don't know. I just say, cracking fans, be patient,
you'll be fine. Hey, Joey and Joey and Maddy playing
really well. The World Championship right now, by the way,

(38:24):
So all right, Mariners by the win, just by the way,
just one, six to five, or the Chicago White Sox
will discuss that much more coming.

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four straight games, still in four first place in the
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Speaker 1 (39:57):
All right, it's a Wednesday. Normally on a Wednesday, what
do I do? Well? Not much normally on a Tuesday,
though at this time at two o'clock, I check in
with my buddy John Lund from down in Beautiful Bay Area.
Of course, John Lund on Leash you can watch, listen
and learn every day at eight o'clock in the morning.
And I think you got another show coming up here
soon because the fifty five million dollar quarterback is speaking today.

(40:21):
Brock Purty, what's up, buddy? How are you?

Speaker 3 (40:24):
God? You know, I'm so glad you asked that because
my phone rang and I walked out of the press
conference just for you, coming to you live from the
bowels of lew Stadium. And I just walked out of
Brock Purty's press conference. So I'm gonna ask you a question. YEP.
Two hundred and sixty five million dollars, one hundred and
eighty one million dollars guaranteed. You would think Brock Party

(40:45):
would be all blinged out, because that's how he is
guy from Arizona via Iowa State. No, he's not blinged out.
He was asked at the end of the press conference.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
And he's newly married and minted and all that kind
of stuff. What was the first thing he was going
to purchase with this Uh, with this large amount of money.
He said, I've always been a big fisherman. I'm gonna
buy myself. I'm gonna ask my wife. That's what he said. First,
he goes, I'm gonna ask my wife if I can
buy a big bass boat, big bass boat, the Triple
B and he but he did press it by saying,

(41:16):
I'm gonna ask my wife. It's like, dude, what do
you mean You're gonna ask your wife? Like I'll due
respect you ask your wife, Like, dude, I'd buy the
biggest bass boat. Ever, what would you do if you
just got turn sixty five with one hundred and eighty
one million guaranteed? What would be the first purchasers boat?

Speaker 1 (41:30):
First of all, I would ask my wife. That would
be the first thing I would do, as you, Yes,
I would.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
Divorce your wife. Is what you do, because that's the
kind of guy you are.

Speaker 1 (41:40):
Come on here, Oh my gosh, come on now now,
I would ask my wife.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Or a guy by the way, for a guy who
just finished all the kids are out of college, by
the way, Yeah, congradulations.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
Thank you, thank you amazing.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
That is a great feat by the way, I don't
know if you've spoken about it, but that'd be wonderful.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
Yeah. No, I would ask my wife if I could buy.

Speaker 7 (42:05):
How much?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
How much is it guaranteed?

Speaker 3 (42:08):
One hundred and eighty one million dollars one eighty one
he I don't know if that goes in. I don't
know how that works. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Today was like, did he get a check today? What
was a bonus check?

Speaker 5 (42:18):
Like?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
What's this? What's like, what's the first check he gets?

Speaker 3 (42:21):
I think it's like a hundred and I swear to god,
I think it's like one hundred and I think he
got like one hundred and six or something on the day.
So I can you imagine, like I would just sit
there all day long if you stare at my bank account,
I would just stare at my bank account. And I
just feel like, are you kidding me? Like, and he
is a simple dude. I mean there's lots of guys,
you know, you know, lots of guys like I mean,
real simple dude. He's not going to go out. He
don't have a posse. He's got to deal with Toyota.

(42:43):
So he's gonna get like the biggest, like the best
soil koya, but not with rims or anything like. It's
you know, it might be smoked windows, maybe a little dark,
but not really dark. You know, it's gonna be real
dad kind of car truck. He's not, dude. He drove
a and he had off the field stuff. But he
drove like a nice Camry, like that's what he drove.

(43:04):
I probably he drove like a nice Camray.

Speaker 1 (43:06):
Well he drove well that I mean, first of all,
I love that. I don't think he'd be driving that anymore.
I think that I think that as I'm listening at
first of all. I saw a story today that I
think the Bay Area or San Jose, but I mean
the stadium's close to San Jose, right, It's well, of
course I've been there. What am I asking you that
I know U in?

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:25):
You find Yeah, so I saw today that you need
to make It's like the it's the highest amount of
money in the country to live in the Bay Area
unless you make one hundred and twenty five thousand. I
was like one hundred and twenty two thousand dollars. Then
you can't afford rent, not a house payment, you can't
afford rent in the Bay Area. So I guess the

(43:47):
first thing he's going to do is see if he
can find a place to live that's affordable. That would
be number one.

Speaker 3 (43:52):
You know what's so funny about that. Up until he
just he just got married. Up until that point, he
had like two offensive linemen living with him. And now
remember he was only making like a million bucks on
the field, but he had toyota, I mean, anything that
wasn't nailed down he was endors or for. So he
made like five million last year, which again, as an
NFL quarterback, he's gonna make like two point three million

(44:13):
per game this year. But he had two offensive linemen,
like guys who don't make any money, ones like Nick
kel who was like a sixth round pick. They were
living with him, and he was like the breadwinner of
that house. Like he was buying food for guys. Money
couldn't They're like dudes were like six round pick and

(44:34):
practice squad guys. Yeah, and Perty is such a nice guy.
I know people see hey to might get it, but
he's such a nice guy that, Like the dudes were
living with him and he's like, yeah, that's cool, you
live with me. It's fine. I don't think I'm the
big seventh round quarterback making five million this year, but
you're right, I mean five millions a lot, but after taxes,
you pay a guy this that and the other. Yeah

(44:55):
around here.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
Like come on, I'm gonna just check the text line
for me a second. I'm gonna ask a question here.
I think of the three quarterbacks in this division, I
think he'd be like the least disliked, like like you know,
like Kyler Murray is just a sullen He's just he
just is annoying, like yelling at teammates and things aren't

(45:17):
going well. I'm gonna put the towel on my head
and you know, drooped down. And you know, I used
to I used to laugh because listen, Russ is full
of it. I mean, he just is. But but you
would but you would never see Russ, Like Russ could
be down and it never really happened. But let's just say,
for example, Russ was down forty five nothing, he'd still
be on the sideline. Let's go, man, come on, now
here we go like like Kyler Murray throws an interception

(45:39):
that it's one hundred percent on him, and he'll be
on the sideline bitching at teammates and yelling at Marvin
Harrison Junior and just being a just a dipstick Stafford.
He's annoying because of his wife. Uh and you know, right,
like and you were around him in Detroit, were you
weren't you there in Detroit when he was in there?

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah? Well well and here's the other thing too, is
last night he was in a Dodger's gaming best friends
because they go up together with Clay Krushaw. So there
is I don't play root for the Dodgers. Dodgers, so yeah,
he's in LA. Of course, you can hate anybody in LA.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Yeah, you hate everybody Kershaw. Now it's like, yeah, he's
a tool a party seems to be the most likable
of all of the other three four nine four five
one of my right or wrong for just can keep
an eye O.

Speaker 3 (46:18):
Well, you know, there's a philosophy. I have a philosophy
on that, which is, if someone's on the team that
you hate, he could be the nicest guy in the
team you hate, but you hate him so like, for example,
I brought up Kershaw. He's good friends with uh, with
Stafford Clayton. Kershaw is so good and has been so good.
And the Dodgers of the rival to the Giants because
they're in LA. But I don't hate Kershaw. But he
wears Dodger blue. You know what I mean? Anybody in

(46:41):
that other on that other team, it's like party, by
and large. I can just tell you that lots of
people be friends of them. I mean, he's kind of dorky.
It looks like he dresses from like the Sears catalog
from the eighties or like maybe maybe an updated thing
would be like Cole's. Like he's probably like Cole's Cash
or Cole's Bucks or whatever they call that. He's got
that like a house. He's like a mini virsual like

(47:02):
Kirk Cousins, you know what I mean. Like he's not
gonna spend money. He'd be a guy like he said
he's gonna buy a bass boat, like that's his big purchase.
And he said he had to ask his wife. Like
he's a down most down to earth guy you could
ever meet. He is. He's like the nicest guy this
and that, But he plays for.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
The Niners, you know what I mean, Well, that's by the.

Speaker 3 (47:19):
Very virtue of that he might Yeah, I mean, he
might be the least hated of the forty nine ers,
but he also is the head of the snake on
the forty nine erst the same time.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
You know, does is he gonna have a boat like
a bass boall? So it will be like when Clay.
It will be like when Clay had the boat. When
when Clay had the boat Captain Clay and he put
the skipper's hat on and he's his cruiser around the
bay with his dog and like a bunch of models
before he got married, Like that was.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
The He's totally he's totally like that's Clay, Like that's
totally Clay. And he has a big like they would
they would take that thing to games because traffic is
so bad. And now Chase Center, where the Warriors play,
is right on the water, and Chase would act or
Clay would actually do that and he would take teammates
and then they would like and they'd have a guy
standing there docking for Clay and then they like walk

(48:03):
to the red and into it. To Dallas. It was like, dude,
what are you What are you gonna do with Dallas?

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Look at the flat ground and nothingness. That's what you're
gonna do?

Speaker 3 (48:13):
I mean exactly, like, what are you gonna do? Go
to Cowboys?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Come on now, you're gonna now you're gonna defer to
uh Cooper flag is what you're gonna do now?

Speaker 3 (48:22):
In Dallas?

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Though all click what man, I'll tell you right now,
I'd have a couple of vacations. Well, first of all,
I probably walk into Purple Sheets office and quit uh.

Speaker 3 (48:31):
The second like, but you probably still do the hockey stuff.
Though you love hockey, you probably still do the hockey stuff.
He's quick kJ R.

Speaker 1 (48:39):
I don't even know if I think. I think with
that kind of money, I'd come down bother you and
I want to be on John London Leash. You know,
probably want to join John London Leash and be on that.
And so what's going on? Money?

Speaker 3 (48:49):
I'm glad my wife. I'm glad my wife works does well.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
You got sponsors? I lest start your show now? You
got to sponsor something about you know, blood spinning and
uh and and talk to stoster and shots and stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (49:04):
Ooster on replacement, you know all that. Yeah, dude, I
got sponsors coming out of my ears. I have to
turn them down.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Yeah, I bet you, I bet you.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Yeah, you know, you just don't fit my brand. But thanks,
I'd like to take your money, but I can't.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
What is your brand?

Speaker 3 (49:18):
You know what it is. It's just it's just weirdness
and straightness and what the hell did you?

Speaker 1 (49:23):
Short old white guy? That's your brand? Your brand is
short old white guy, That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (49:27):
Yeah, exactly. There are lots of people just you know.
That's why I have to start my own thing, because
you don't how. I know this sounds crazy, but no
one's knocking down the door to pay to pay a
fifty seven year old white guy. I mean, it's just
not happening.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
It's weird. It's talent. I don't know what as talent,
as talented as you are, I can't I find that
amazing strange. John Lone, Johnny John London least in a
in a in a serious note for brock Perty Seriously,
he's worth that kind of money or were they just
kind of painted into a corner? I mean, I it's
that might be the strangest roster i've They've got like

(50:01):
five guys that are getting paid about the salary cap
right heavy.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
Yeah, Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of like KJR,
you know what I mean. Yeah, it's kind of like
makes exactly exactly right soft to make some money. Nobody
else makes any money pretty much. Uh, It's that's pretty much.
You know, that's brought pretty now. You know what, if
you look at the numbers and this is one thing
and it's led by national media and jackasses and everything
like that, the guys, the guy's been really good. I

(50:27):
mean last year he had injuries whatever you can call
that excuse or explanation, But his first two years in
the league, he went to then FC championship game, got hurt,
and went to a Super Bowl. I'm not saying he
did it alone. Because he didn't. But it's similar to
and I you know, I like to make these comparisons
because people in Seattle are like, what do I care
about the Niners. But it's a lot like when Russ
was doing his thing up in Seattle. Take the weirdness
away for a second. I'm not talking about mister unlimited

(50:48):
before he got really weird and stuff. I'm just saying
when he was young and they had a really good defense,
and they ran the ball and everyone Russ is along
for the ride, right, Well, yeah, to a certain extent
he is. But you know what, the quarterback has the
ball in his hands every play. So if your quarterback
really really sucks, you're not going anywhere, even with a
bunch of talents. So, you know, Party is a really
good quarterback. Now there's you know this as well as

(51:09):
I do. There's four quarterbacks in the league right now, right,
really really good ones. Mahomes is really good, Josh Allen's
really good, Burrow's really good, Lamar is really good. Outside
of that, your quarterback, and i'll throw Donald in here too,
your quarterback on your team outside of a numb you know, Cleveland, Tennessee, Atlanta. Okay,
they're not in this conversation. But there's a lot of
teams whose quarterback, Yeah, exactly, But there's a lot of teams,

(51:31):
probably ten or fifteen, whose quarterback you could say was
the fifth best quarterback to the twentieth best quarterback on
any given Sunday, like all of a sudden, this guy's greater,
this guy's greater, this guy's great. You know, it can happen,
you know, but it consistently. Who's I don't know who
the fifth best quarterback in the league is consistently because
for the same reasons that people want to knock Brock Party. Okay, well,

(51:52):
Jalen Hurts has a hell of a lot of talent
around him. But I don't often hear that. I hear
that Brock Purty has a lot of talent, and he's
got a great head coach and all, you know, great
play call or it's to me, it's just excuses. He's
pretty good. He's pretty good.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Well, I think I think that the thing is John,
is that you know, at some point your quarterback has
to carry a team, whether it's for a game winning
drive or a game in which your defense isn't doing
anything or the running game's not going or whatever, like
you got to have a guy that can go, at
any given time win a game for you, Like he's
got to win a game for you, and his block
pretty capable of that. Yes, absolutely is. And I think

(52:25):
what you said is interesting because you know you go
through that, like there's probably I'm gonna say there's about
I don't know if I go twenty, but I bet
there's about ten to fifteen quarterbacks that literally could carry
a team for a week, like one game, one week,
whatever it might be, and or or even sometimes it's
a drive. And Russ is a good Russ is a
good comp not yeah, you're right, not mister unlimited Russ,

(52:45):
because that's a different Russ, right that guy. Now, that
guy's that guy's wearing a top hat and has a cane,
is going to the met gal and all that kind
of stuff. I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
I didn't think he could be more annoying than he is.
But carry on, he's just a dumb I don't want
to go on a tangent.

Speaker 1 (52:59):
But no, it's the King. I mean, was a topping
part like that was the worst.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
But here here's a great point of what you're just saying. Look,
Gino Smith gets traded to the Raiders, and I'm sure
he drove Seahawks fans crazy. But on a given week,
he could be the fifth best quarterback in the league
after that top four, and he could carry in he
could be great. Then the next week he started a
couple interceptions in the red zone and he goes, what
is he doing? And that's what you know. Party can
do that. Sam Darnold can do that. I mean, Donald

(53:27):
looked great in Minnesota. I mean Sam Donald in Week
two against the forty nine ers last year, crushed him,
threw like a ninety yard touchdown to Justin. Jefferson look
good doing it too. It wasn't just Jefferson making the play.
I mean, I agree with you. The next ten quarterbacks.
It just depends Stafford. As we do talking about Stafford.
He could look great on a given week, So could

(53:48):
Jalen Hurt. So could you know, go on down the
line to whoever it is that you like. I think
there's only about four great ones in the league. And
then after that he's going to be the eye of
the beholder or depend on who you play on a
given week or whatever. But you know, is he worth
the money? Everybody wants to talk about that. But what
I think is, you look at him, you don't see it.
He doesn't have the big arm, he doesn't have the
you know, the height, the weight, the whatever you know

(54:09):
with Al Davis used to fall in love with. But
the one thing he'll never get past is he's picked
two sixty two and in some people's minds, they just
can't get past it. But you know what, he's better
than Trevor Lawrence who is the first pick, and you
can go on down the line. He's a comp to
Jared Goff who was the first pick. Everybody just he
will never outrun two sixty two unless he wins the

(54:30):
Super Bowl and then things might change.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
It's weird too because it's the league filled with guys
were undrafted free agents to go on to have great careers,
right and like, because you're mister irrelevant, it comes into play.
John Lon John Lona Leish, what'd you think of the
tush push getting pushed back and being allowed?

Speaker 3 (54:44):
Still, Yeah, you know, I get it where people would
be upset, But I'm of the opinion that because you
can't stop it doesn't mean you should change the rule.
Like baseball, even though I was gonna say, you know,
Baseball said they were going to do some something to
the shift. They never really did. Shortstop still play right
up the middle shone. It's not really changed. I guess

(55:04):
I was gonna try to comp that to the rule.
But because you can't stop something doesn't mean that it
shouldn't be none. Now, having said that, I do think
not just that, not the tush push, but I do
think and I don't know when this came in vogue,
but being able to push a player forward in general
I think should be illegal. So in other words, when
you see a running back will have the ball and
then he'll get two big linemen behind him as he's

(55:25):
you know, up against the gold and they'll push him
into the end zone, I don't think that should be legal. Yeah,
if you're gonna, if you're gonna say that the rule
is the rule, then say you can't push players. Because
you want to talk about injuries, I think the guys
are gonna get hurt. When you know, six or you know,
eight hundred pounds of beef is pushing a guy into
the end zone, I think there's gonna be injuries that way.

(55:45):
I never thought that that should should happen. I think
you're you stop a guy. You don't. Your lineman shouldn't
be able to get behind the guy and push a
guy in the end zone, which is the tush push.
But also you see that all the time on plays.

Speaker 1 (55:56):
My buddy John Boyle, he writes for Seahawks dot Com,
I'm gonna throw this. I read it today and he
called it a ridiculous since it's an NFL change rule change,
She's and allowed me to propose my probably ridiculous idea.
But this is an interesting one, he says. And here's
the thing. It makes sense. It would never happen. He
calls it ridiculous. John writes, if we're going to allow
offenses to assist runners and push the pile, then as

(56:18):
soon as that action takes place the scrum, the lineman
pushing the ball, carrey, et cetera, the offense the forfeits
the benefit of forward progress. So if a scrum takes
place and the defense is able to win and drive
the runner back ten yards while he's still on his
feet feet, it's a ten yard loss. If the ball
comes out during the action, it's a fumble. In other words,
forward progress right, Because really, you watch a tush pusht

(56:39):
Yeah you know what, and all of a sudden, you
push a guy back ten twenty yards. No, no forward progress, no, no,
no you It actually makes sense. See John should have
been on the committee because all it just turned into
was basically, I know Philadelphia versus the rest of the league.

Speaker 3 (56:52):
Friend of yours, A friend of yours.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
I would call John is an acquaintan's borderline friend. It's
a good dude, really good guy.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
I don't know if you I would consider Jonathan.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
There's no way that you know someone that's small I consider.

Speaker 1 (57:05):
I would consider John Boyle a friend. I don't know
if he would consider me a friend. All Right, you
know how that works with a lot of people. For now,
my friends with him, now I know who he is. Yeah,
not for your.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
Friends with someone if it's if it's advantageous, Like I'm
friends of that guy. I give a bad idea, he
comes up with the dumb jackass idea, like I mean
I know that guy.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah, I mean that's that's kind of what it was.
I just think the whole thing is based on one thing.
It's fantasy football. Jalen Hurts had twenty nine rushing touchdowns
for the last two years. That's what it's based on.
It's a fantasy football thing, like because hurts a.

Speaker 3 (57:34):
Billion dollar business. It's a multi billion dollar business, and
for some reason people think it's birks and geeks. It's
everybody who plays it. And it's a multi billion dollar business, right,
And so the toush push gives it there's more points
to it. We all love points and yards and you know,
stuff like that runs and so yeah, that's a great point.
And again I'm usually much smarter than this, but I
never thought of that.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Well, okay, I'll just I'm not even going to touch
that one. I'm not even gonna touch that.

Speaker 3 (57:59):
Well, it's a it's harder to the west.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
Hey, uh no, but listen, you gotta give you one
more thing before you go, oh god, oh my god.

Speaker 3 (58:10):
The Mariners of the Giants are both good.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
Just saying no, yeah, I know, that's actually pretty well. No,
I just I just saw that SGA won the MVP.
Maybe that happened earlier and I just pasted. Uh, is
there any chance? Can you give us any chance at all?
Like you're you're the NBA guy here, Is there any
chance to Minnesota? Is Minnesota or the Knicks. Somebody we
have any chance at all that this thing is not

(58:31):
going to happen.

Speaker 3 (58:33):
Yeah, I think both of you. I don't think they're
making in the finals. I just saw Minnesota up close
and personal. That's a good team. They just they just
played horribly last night. I understand that. Look, Oklahoma City's okay.
I still think they're too young. I still think they're
an eighty two game team that has a lot of
depth what we'll see and look, I like SDA. I
got no issue against them. Yo Kis had the better
regular season and but but you know how media types are.

(58:55):
We get bored giving the MVP to the same guy
all the time, so so they give it to him.
But and he just outplayed mini series, so it's convenient
the timing. But actually, I think I'll be in the
minority here. I think Minnesota's gonna win the series and
come back, and I think the Knicks are going to
win the title, which means neither will happen. So you
should bet against me and get a new house. But uh,
I mean, and for one time, I can't stand the Yankees.

(59:16):
I don't like the Yankee or I don't like the Jets.
I don't like the Giants, but it's kind of a
cool story that the Knicks, after all of their years,
would kind of win behind this guy, Jalen Brunson. Who's
I mean, what's Sandon Brunson? Not even six foot? Yeah,
I mean it's a pretty cool story. Gotta gotta be
even though it's New York. You gotta be honest, that's
a pretty cool story.

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Speaker 3 (59:53):
Yeah, Minnesota is gonna beat Oklahoma City and you could
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Come on, well, then your dad used to say, son,
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dad used to it all the time, that old man
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Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
Yeah? I told I told my kid that the other day. Kid, Yeah,
he's smarter than just looks at me like you're just
a dipstick? What are you talking about? Leave me alone?

Speaker 3 (01:01:00):
Now here's the big question. Is your kid moving out
and does he have a job or is he going
to hang out at your.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
House for a while after he graduated a job? Come on, man,
you mean no, no, he's uh he's he's working on
some stuff. He's trying to become a firefighter EMT SO
and all the booth. Yeah, he's there's a bunch of stuff.
You gotta go through tests. And he's gonna do all
the testing here in the next couple of months with
the written test, if the physical test and all that
and then and then so yeah, and the fire departments

(01:01:26):
out there, Keith for fernest student athlete. He'll he'll pass
the physical test without a problem. That's I mean, that's easy.
But and then actually I mentioned this earlier. He is
a kum laude student. Like I guess that's good, like
when you're cum laude, right, and so he should he
should pass the written test, I would think as well.
I would assume if not, then we've got some issues
with Worth University. So if you can't pass that along

(01:01:50):
the way. So, no, he's gonna he'll live at home
for a little while. He's already you know, hey, what's
for dinner? That kind of stuff. I'm like, fella, Oh yeah,
I was.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Gonna say, he's not small. It's not like you're gonna,
you know, give him a little bit of food.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
He's smaller. Now he's smaller. Now he might, he might,
he might weigh less than I do. Yeah, he's, he's,
he's that's the problem is problem. That is a that
is one hundred percent of me problem. All right, tell
tell our great listeners up here, and what about John
lond unleashed. I know, like I think two people have
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Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Yeah, at least from Seattle. And plus I got people
sending any stuff about how you're becoming a Seahawks fans.

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I uh, I bust his chops all the time. It's
actually it's great stuff. And you do a hell of
a job, buddy. So I know I couldn't do that. Wow,
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uncomfortable right now, so I'll say goodbye.

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least go check it out. We'll tell you break. We'll
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Ah, what a blissful existence that must have been.

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Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
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the best road record in Major League Baseball, which is
wild Seattle is twenty four and twelve since April ninth.
That's tied for the best Major best record in the
majors with Detroit. And it was a little bit harder today.
They had come from behind a couple times in this
game and get the win. Theoda Tavares got the game
winning home run, a two run shot who had a

(01:06:41):
home run as well in the game. Boy, he is hey.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Schedule?

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
He yeah, a three run home run today?

Speaker 5 (01:06:48):
He is?

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
He teeing up is old Leo. Well, we'll talk more
about that obviously on Monday, maybe even tomorrow on the show.
But I can't wait. Did we mollywop this week?

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
We did, but we had Nathan on with Dick Fay
oh yeah, so Chris wasn't able to join, okay, and
so it was molly.

Speaker 1 (01:07:06):
Half yeah, half a wop, okay, half a one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
I don't know what to call it, but they actually
it was.

Speaker 4 (01:07:11):
It was really good conversation too, because I don't think
that Dick Vane and Nathan Bishop talked to each other.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
All that often on the air.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
No, so no fact to the contrary.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
It was really good.

Speaker 4 (01:07:20):
If anybody's interested in listening to it is podcast, Okay, Yes,
it actually.

Speaker 2 (01:07:24):
Was really good. It was a good conversation.

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That was good. Text four nine four to five one.
That is the still is it still an unrestricted free agent?

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
It is, but we have been getting the fish up
and biting. We have people, uh who are interested?

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
All right, what do we got? You have something for me?
That's that you can read on the air. Yes, I
thought you said you found one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Yes, that's all I saw.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
A couple actually, this one the two of six that
last white sox better wanted nothing to do with He
wrote senior smoke, but I think he meant senor smoke.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Well, if it's if it listen, it has to do
with Andre's moony Yes, and he might have been doing
a voice text. I do that sometimes. I don't know
if you've never noticed that one. When I do that,
sometimes maybe it doesn't translate all that well, I don't know.
Maybe you can tell me. It seems like it not always.

Speaker 3 (01:08:06):
Does it do that?

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
This is another one that I thought that you would
like to address from the two oh six. Could the
coach that the Kraken are going to still be coaching
in the NYHEL playoffs?

Speaker 1 (01:08:21):
Four teams were me, Oh god, here's one. This is
this is this is almost that you can only have one.
Oh oh, well, don't do I'll pitch this to Dick
when we do cross talk in a minute. Though, would
you rather have the Mariners reach the World Series but
lose or have the Thunder lose in the finals? And
I assume the next part that would be Thunders losing

(01:08:42):
the finals or Thunder I mean, like yeah, because I
think the alternative is Thunder win the finals. Is how
that should have?

Speaker 4 (01:08:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Yes, Manner's the World Series, but the trade off is
the marriage get to the World Series. The trade off
is the Thunder win the NBA title if the Mariners win.
That's kind of what he's saying. I think, yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
So Mariners win the World Series one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
I think the Marriage win the World Series would make
me really forget about the Thunder pretty quick. Yeah, I
think I think I would. Because he didn't. That's kind
of a hey, listen, poorly written text, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
I think a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Your text wasn't great in how you did it, but
I understand what you're saying because there was more to it.
Let's go this, let's let's let's do it for you
would you rather have the marriage recent World Series but lose,
or have the Thunder lose in the finals, or Manners
get to the World Series and win, but the Thunder
win the NBA title.

Speaker 2 (01:09:48):
I take that option too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:49):
I would take option two as well, because I would
forget pretty quick that the Thunder won an NBA title.
If we're having a parade for the Mariners. Yeah, Like,
I don't think I would even haves a I.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Think it would have raised every everyone's emotions when it
comes to that, to be honest, ye whould just be Yeah,
I think so.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
A listful thing to happen here.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
I found myself a little stressed. Like on a scale
of one to ten, I'm probably at about a six
for the Thunder to win it all. I almost feel
as if it's an inevitable. I kind of feel like
it's inevitable this year. Maybe maybe then I have this
really really bad feeling we're gonna putll our eggs in

(01:10:32):
the Knicks basket at some points, and that's just that
just you've been around that for a long time. That
doesn't work out, well.

Speaker 4 (01:10:40):
No, it usually doesn't, actually, But I am now that
the Celtics are out, I'm all nixt.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
You can send this to Lund. I'll read it on
the air, but you can send this to Lund from
Keith Miller to wrap things up.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
It's last word.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
I can hear it in Lund's voice. He has Mike
McDonald eight by ten on his bedstand and he kisses
it good night before he goes to Hawk Dreamland. Yeah,
I think Lun likes Mike McDonald the Seahawks. He's a
closet Seahawks fan. He really is. He might deny that publicly,
but I've known John for a long time. He's kind
of a Seattle sports fan.

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
To be honest with you, right, well, he pays a
lot of attention, so it'd be hard to believe.

Speaker 2 (01:11:15):
He isn't just a little bit of one.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
He's just such a dipstick.

Speaker 2 (01:11:19):
He's so fun. Okay, I love him.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
Sell.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Some of those guys got too much energy for me.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
So one time a week, I know, it's almost like
you're cross talks with Softy.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Yeah, we'll take him in five minute doses.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
God he's in Greece.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Yeah, we'll come back refreshed, So be prepared.

Speaker 1 (01:11:39):
All right, two, five, three, after this be the last
one members make the series and lose all day. Screw
that with the thunder do or don't that's being said?
Go te wolves. Yeah, it might be a topic tomorrow. Okay,
we'll take a break. Softy Softy Faine joins us. Fact,

(01:12:07):
all right, wrap the things up. Richard L. Fane is here,
Softy is somewhere in Greece, probably ruining all international relations
with that country. If there's no question. Actually there's no question.
I would even joke about the fact we don't have
international relations anyway. But we move on. So, uh, yeah,
it's all good. Is it good?

Speaker 6 (01:12:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
Yeah, we're good. Jacob Jackson, We're all good.

Speaker 3 (01:12:27):
Man good.

Speaker 7 (01:12:29):
I love that Jackson just pops in, or are we good?
He's referring to my conversation with Petros.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yes, I would hope. I mean, you guys record that.
Usually he's got to show on. Yeah, he has to
show the same time. They tell me he went off
on the USC thing with Notre Dame.

Speaker 7 (01:12:44):
There was a reference, Yes, there was a reference. It
was a snide reference. It's yes, he talked to but
we talked a little bit about that. I've never seen
anybody hate his Alma modern more. Oh, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
We did actually tell you It's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:12:59):
You bring that up because there was a good two
three minute a monologue of swings against Lincoln Riley and
USC football, which I really didn't even bring up.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
It was just just bringing up by Osmosis. It was very,
very funny. What happened. Was it just the fact that
they turfed him from me in the basketball pa or what?
Where did he go south with him? And that's a
great call.

Speaker 7 (01:13:21):
I don't know, but they don't put him up on
the wall, right. He's as we heard, he's too ugly
to be up on that wall, the Wall of Fame.

Speaker 1 (01:13:26):
It was a cat to see.

Speaker 7 (01:13:27):
We've got we've got a freaking you know, we've got O. J.
Simpson on that wall, but we don't have uh, Petros
Papadakis on that wall.

Speaker 1 (01:13:34):
So that just got to get up there. Yeah, yeah,
I don't. I don't know, man, that's just that's a
that's an I've always thought that was kind of an oddity,
like here's a guy that's it's just every chance, he
guess he just destroys his own school. I just don't
know many people to do that. Very fun now, I
guess nowadays you probably could because guy's have gone to
like six schools, right, so probably there might be five

(01:13:54):
you don't like out of the six along the way.
So it's fine. Congrats to Dixon. It was like top
twenty finish his first year playing high school golf in
the States. That's awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:14:04):
You always say birdie eighteen. You always like, well, you
always like walking off the always like walking off.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
The course with a with a birdie. When did he
beat you for the first time? Very early last year?
So he was and he is like just alone pass
So I got, I got my My guy has been
off and on beating me. And obviously he's not a
high school golfer, but good enough. But he's been off
and on kind of right there with me the last

(01:14:31):
year or so. But he is so much longer than you, though,
so much longer, I mean, like fifty yards long. He's hitting.
He's hitting pitching wedges where I'm hitting a seven iron,
and and like we did this yesterday, Drew. It's like
he was just like we had. I took the day off,
we got back from school Monday, moved him out and
all that stuff, graduating, and we so we set up
a tea time yesterday and luckily the weather held, which

(01:14:54):
was nice. I was kind of stressed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
We play.

Speaker 1 (01:14:56):
He beat me my nine strokes yesterday and like his
putting and it's gotten better. But I was telling the
story earlier, like like I don't I was worried about
the graduation because he was playing golf every day for
the last month in Spokane. They had a deal at Wandimere.
One of his teammates. His buddy was the assistant pro,
so they just played there all the time. Yeah, like, oh,
you know guys, you guys want to walk out and

(01:15:17):
there's like five minutes from their house. Okay, cool. So
he's played a lot of golf, but yeah, like now
it's I can I can probably beat him on a
given day and vice versa. But we're not too far
away from that. Not even happening right right. I like
the humbling experience that that will be.

Speaker 7 (01:15:31):
So I have beaten him this year, but it took
I beaten him twice, but it took my two lowest
rounds I have ever shot, and it took him playing
like d plus.

Speaker 1 (01:15:43):
Yeah, not even not even seen a day one of
those days. I'm gonna throw this at you. We got
this on the text line earlier. I got to make
sure I phrased this correctly, because the text came in
and it was kind of almost an incomplete text, but
it was a great but the text. We appreciate the text,
and also you made me think and and blew my mind.
It's kind of you can only have a one, but
it's like a little bit more to it. Would you

(01:16:04):
rather the Thunder? Would you rather the Mariners get to
the World Series and lose, the trade off being the
Thunder also lose in the finals? Okay? Or that's what
he wrote. I would add to that, or Mariners go
to the World Series and win, but the Thunder also win.
The I will I will buy the equal sacrifice.

Speaker 7 (01:16:25):
I will sacrifice your title for a Mariner title because
I know the Sonics are coming back soon. So yeah,
I mean I suck to have a Sounder. I would
pretty much sacrifice anything sports wise for a Mariner champ.
I would I would give I would give Oregon a
national championship for a Mariner's World Series. You know, I
think I would rather if I had to see one
of the two Thunder Oregon. I think I'd rather see

(01:16:47):
a Thunder title than an organ title, just because the
Oregon Washington rivalry is so hot, and it's yearly, right,
it's every single year. You have to deal with those
crazy people every single year when you go down there
or they come up they come up here. Whereas the Okay, see,
I mean, it's it's awful, it's horrible. It's eighteen years

(01:17:08):
of frustration watching them playing us not play. But I
just don't have that bitter animosity towards the players versus
what I have to order.

Speaker 6 (01:17:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
Okay, now, Jess, we're gonna have to have this discussion
tomorrow because now he's making me think Washington National Championship
trade off being the Mayor's World Series or like what
you just said, thought, wouldn't you take?

Speaker 7 (01:17:32):
You take a Washington title for a Mariners World Series
championshipouldn't you I'd take a Cougar title.

Speaker 1 (01:17:38):
I might have to. I'm gonna have to think about that.
I'm gonna have to think about that. I'm really gonna
have to think about that. I'm really gonna that's gonna
take me some that's gonna take a night. I'm desperate
for a Mariners champion.

Speaker 7 (01:17:48):
Should you imagine like we'd be bawling after forty eight years,
nine years of nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Yes, yes, but hearing about the Husky's national championship every
day would be really difficult. I don't know, that's a
hard trade off.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
Happened, just like an Oregon national championship is gonna happen.
A Washington A Washing championship is gonna happen, an ok
C championship is gonna happen. We don't know if a
Mariner championship is ever gonna happens.

Speaker 1 (01:18:14):
You're list in the Athletic the top twenty five college
football teams will last twenty five years. No, if you
look at it, I would I would argue that it
would happen for either school Washington or Oregon. It would
or would not. It would. I think it's gonna be
harder than you think it's. It is the same cast
of characters. Well, yeah, they just spent Huskies.

Speaker 7 (01:18:32):
They did one of these last year, and the Huskies
run the top ten, the top the top ten times
in the last ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:18:37):
To make the top twenty five in this list. So
it was interesting. I just think it's we live in
Ohio state in Alabama and Georgia's world right now. That's
the problem. Anyway, we got we're gonna go. What do
you got coming up? Petros?

Speaker 7 (01:18:47):
Petros making fun of USC and talking tush push hate
my home on all those things. Larry Stone to join us,
good many good Mariner series win. Gotta get me, you
gotta get that series win right, but you got that win.
At five o'clock today we'll have Harry Stone on and
right off the gate. Three ten Mike Floria a ton
to talk about in the NFL.

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
One or two things for one or two? How can
you see you? Thanks man for the mild mannered and
marginally objectionable in forness. This is paddle Day saying so
long everyone