Furness Show 5-22: Eno Sarris, Corbin Smith, Addressing the Elephant in the Room.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Fun show. Coming up today. Ino Sarrus is going to
join us in a little bit. We'll talk to him
from the Athletic, our weekly visit brought to you by
Georgetown Brewing with the Athletic. He's kind of a he's
I would say, he's kind of a numbers nerdy numbers
guy that can explain him in layman's terms and make
game even more fun to watch and so forth. He's
going to join us, coming up for his weekly around

(00:21):
one twenty this afternoon. I always enjoy talking to you know.
I want to talkhim about Felix or Felix, where are
my mind? All? Right?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
I want to talk to him about Julio, George Kirby's return,
is this thing sustainable offensively? All those things. We'll talk
about that with him coming up at one twenty today.
The strike zone two has changed this year in baseball,
and we'll discuss that. I know EO has some things
he wrote great call him on it. Has some things
to say about that, including and Andres will get your

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thoughts on this in a second. The ABS system or
the challenge system what one of those two things we'll
discuss after our conversation with you know, one of those
two things is going to happen than later. And there's
some signs pointing that we'll get to all that coming
up with him, and obviously talking about the massive series
of the Mariners taking on the Houston Astros coming up
starting tonight Fource rate games before they come home Memorial Day.

(01:11):
So we'll get to all that today Corbyn Smith week
we visit two o'clock. I didn't even get too much
of this yesterday. With the NFL Tush push boom still there,
playoff seating, the other rules going on. We'll talk to
him about all goings on around the National Football leag
we're getting close to well they have OTAs do the
Seahawks right now. We're getting close to some open OTAs

(01:32):
open mini camps in June where we'll be out back
at Virginia Mason Athletic Center. So we'll get to all
that with our guy coming up, Corbyn Smith from where's
he from? Again? Andrews me out, where's he do?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
I believe it's something called the Emerald City Spectrum.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
I heard that, Yeah, I hear you, okay, and locked
the locked on network as well, So we'll get to
that coming up with with our our guy Corbyn Smith.
I'm gonna quickly address the elephant in the room. Then
we'll move on. I'll touch more on this at two
thirty today because frankly, the texts or we want me
a couple of days away from texts, but we'll we'll talk.

(02:07):
Mark made his apology at ten o'clock today. I'll just
I have a couple of things to sand No, Chuck
and Buck address it as well. I want to get
to that coming up probably abut two thirty today, and
what's going on here at the radio station, A place
that I've been at for coming up on nineteen years
this September, a place I'm proud to work at, in
a place that love the love the folks like Andrews

(02:29):
and Jess and everybody else we work with. So we'll
we'll dress that and then that will put a ball
on it, we'll put it bed and we move on.
I thought we would do it during cross talk, but
we'll do it at two thirty today, so we'll come in.
That's all coming up today, andres the the Kirby return tonight.
Like I know, God, I hope Jerry doesn't say this.
Please Jerry, don't do this.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
That he's like in free agent addition, yes.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Or trade or whatever, like God, don't do that. Yes,
but him coming back is like, what a boost? What
an absolute if he's healthy? And I'll ask, you know,
what he wants to see. I think there's I think
there's a couple signs. When a guy comes off the
injured list is a picture and you know it is

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because what's spring training about. It's about ramping up everything,
getting your velo there, all those things, right, that's all
it's it's all about that. So we'll talk to Eno
about what he wants to see from George Kirby tonight.
But my guy, what a boost of this lineup? A
team that is sitting at twenty eight and twenty best
road record in baseball. I don't know. I still to

(03:34):
this day, I'm trying to figure out how they're doing it.
Shout out to our guy, Matt Calkins Ginge Ginge columnist.
I love Calkins guy, Matt Maddie. He wrote a really
good column today on kind of the other guys. I
thought it was a really interesting cause it's like on
the other guys that are that are doing everything for Seattle.

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The Mariner's others. He called it the key to win,
and it's true because if you look at the stats
for this team and you look like like Cal's still
striking out at a pretty high rate. I mean, he's
on pace for what one hundred and seventy five plus strikeouts.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
He's gonna strike out a lot, he is, but his
on base.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Percentage is pretty good and sixteen home runs is no joke.
Milonco is. I mean, the average is batting average. And
I know I'm gonna use this only for this reason,
but like, we made a big deal when he's hitting
four ten, We made a big deal. And he's hitting
three fifty. He's hitting two ninety eight now, so it's
coming down. Is there some regression to the norm there

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for Poloco? I'm not sure, but I think there is
that wasn't sustainable. Julio is like Polanco might be trending
down a little bit. Julio's trending up.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I heard Dan Wilson say something the other day about
how he's not missing mistakes, yep, And that is huge
in his development. And I don't get into as a
guy a superstar or not all that stuff. To me,
he's our superstar in Seattle and Bay baseball. He's also
probably Seattle's biggest athlete, biggest named athlete right now in Seattle.
I don't think there's another guy right now. I don't

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even think DK was ever in that category. I think
Julio has a potential to be just an absolute magnet
for all, you know, not just our town, but for
baseball as a whole. He's friending up. So then where
do you get everything else from? Right? Like? Where do
you get everything else from? You know? And what Matt
Road is so true? This is what's weird, And this
is why I want to ask, you know, if this
is sustainable. You get guys chipping in. One day it's

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Rowdy Tilez, one day it's Demo, one day it's Randy
Rose Arena. JP Crawford has had a resurgence this season,
absolutely no doubt about that. He's looking like a legitimate
major league baseball hitter, which is really good to see
you on the way. So you've got all these guys
that are starting to kind of that chip in here
and there. I just look at our group chat.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
With the volley offers.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Okay, somebody doesn't like Ben Williamson, Nathan, I get it.
But you know what, Ben Williamson's had some big hits
for this team. Yes, he's had some big hits, and
there's probably a nerd number out there, and I'll get
onto it. Well, we don't. We don't have a show
Monday because I am WORL day. We'll do maybe we'll
do a Wednesday mulliwap next week because we've been a
busy on Tuesdays. We'll have to ask about that too,

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because Williamson's run prevention has to come into play. Yes,
so he chips in here and there. You're good with that,
But there's another like Reevas has got some speed and
he gets like they're a team that can run the bases.
It's really remarkable. And I'm not ready to tell Jerry
Depoto I'm sorry yet for doubting him. With him and

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Justin Hollander, We'll wait and see how this thing plays out.
But it's start trending in the right direction that these
guys now maybe guys are just having career years. I
don't know, but I thought what Calkins wrote today and
The Times was bang on, Like it's the others. The
others are chipping in, and then if the others are
chipping in and then you keep getting some product, good

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production at Plocko Julio, does he go crazy at some point?
Does oors a rain to get white hot? All those
things come into play, So we'll talk about that with Eno.
Coming up, huge, huge series with the Houston Astros, where
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Speaker 1 (07:45):
Hi. Welcome back in Sports Radio ninety three point three
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All here for some stuff later on with kracking. So
happy to be out here today, but as I look
at a couple of sheets, I want to talk baseball.
And our guy joined us right now. You know, Sarah's
from the Athletic a week we visit. Hello, sir, how are.

Speaker 6 (08:06):
You doing great? It's going to be a great weekend
full of baseball and.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Grilling exactly Memorial Day weekend. Doesn't get much better than that.
I want to spend some time on our local teams. Also,
there's something caught me at my attention in a recent calling.
Me wrote two which we'll get to in just a second,
about strike zones. But let me just start with a
general thought from the national perspective. We love when when
our local teams are going well and national guys can

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give us some love, give us me, give me your
thoughts right now, your summary on the Mariners sitting at
twenty eight and twenty with the best road record in
baseball and oh, by the way, getting some reinforcement which
we'll talk about as well heading into Houston.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
I'm just so happy that this lineup is doing what
it's doing right now. By park park adjusted offense, they're
the sixth best offense in baseball.

Speaker 7 (08:58):
Sometimes, you know, the park makes it.

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Seem like they're not as good.

Speaker 7 (09:01):
I mean, this is.

Speaker 6 (09:03):
A lineup that is making more contact, hitting situationally, Huai
Polonco is.

Speaker 7 (09:10):
Out of his mind. But you know there's also kind.

Speaker 6 (09:13):
Of people doing their regular thing, like cal Raley hitting dongs.
Yeah he strikes out, but he does everything else so well,
you gotta love him. So it's just a great line
up top to bottom, and they're doing it without some pieces.
So it's not like you can say it's been lucky
in any way so far.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Really, I wonder in the pitching up. We'll talk about
the pitching in a second, but you know, like when
when we look at the you know, the stats that
just for the park and some of the deeper numbers,
and we you know, we always talk here about the
the the marine layer and how it's hard to hit
it at T Mobile Park. Hell, they just played in
a place in Chicago that I think it would have
been would have been a one nothing White Sox winning.
They probably should have been a four nothing win, but

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it was cold as hell. Bal didn't go anywhere. But
but I'm looking at this lineup and I'm trying to
figure out how, like, how is it just every single
because it feels like every single night somebody different chips in.
Is that sustainable in baseball over one hundred and sixty
two games.

Speaker 6 (10:09):
I think so. I mean the underlying numbers are pretty good.
What you want to do is you want to barrel
the ball, to hit the ball hard in the air,
and they're fourth.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
And baseball on that.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
You know, if you don't do that, you want to
hit the ball hard, just just hit the ball hard somewhere,
and they're ninth in baseball and hard hit rates, So
that's balls over ninety five miles per hour.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
You could look at.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Something as simple as batting average of balls and play,
which across the league is three hundred every year, and
Seattle's got a two seventy six right now. So you
can't even say that they've been fortunate.

Speaker 7 (10:43):
On the bouncing ball.

Speaker 6 (10:45):
So you know, could they be fortunate in terms of
like all these guys are kind of playing well at
the same time. We've definitely seen that with Seattle, where
oh this this breaks and this sixes.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Yeah, but again, like you know, you're getting some guys
back and it's not like it's just been you know,
there's no idy like I don't even know. I guess
Plonko is the one guy that you'd point to and say, well,
that seems a little bit unsustainable. But he's a switch
hitter who's had this kind of power in the path
and this could just be a really good year for him.

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And even if he takes a step back a little bit,
there's other guys. Dab Crawford has had better power stretches
in his career. Randy Crawford, the University, Randy Crawford, Randy
Rose Arena gets white hot and he has not, you know,
like there's there's the white hot Randy or Rose Arena
is like still waiting to come out.

Speaker 8 (11:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
You know, Sarah joining us, you mentioned a number there,
and I'm curious about it because this is why I
like having you on, because you can kind of help
educate me and others. I'll just say me though, in
this case, in regards to the balls, you know, the
hard hit balls, is it better to have it hard
hit ball on the ground or in the air. I'm
thinking fly ball versus ground ball finding a hole? But

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what how would you how would you what was the
number you look at it. What's more important.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
It is just it's just hard to always get the
angle right because if it's you know, high pitches you
know are hit for different angles and low pitches, you know,
and you could if you always pick the exact right
ball to put the right swing on, you would you
would put it in the air. So all things considered,
I would say, yes, it's more important to hit the

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ball in the air. And in fact, in terms of
predicting future power, the barrel rate, which includes an idea
of launch angle and hitting in the air, that's more
predictive of future power. But hard hit is more predictive
of future batting average, you know. And you know you
can still hit line drives hard, you can still hit

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ground or so you know you've seen this before where
someone hits like a one hundred and fifteen mine, our
ground ball just eats up the defender, you know.

Speaker 7 (12:55):
Yeah, So so.

Speaker 6 (12:56):
Hitting the ball hard is good.

Speaker 7 (12:58):
I would start there.

Speaker 6 (12:59):
And then you know, hitting is all hard in the
air is good, and they're pretty good at that too.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
It's just remarkable, I mean, from where this team was
in the offseason and an offense that added nobody. I mean,
I guess you could mention somewhat Polancal, but even then
he was here last year, they caught him, they get
him back for a reduced rate. Outside that, nothing added
as Solono is a non factor that they're doing well.
Do we give credit to coaching? Do we give credit
to Sitzer and Edgar?

Speaker 7 (13:26):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
You know, one of the things that I notice when
I'm looking at the Mariner is their top ten in
bat speed and they get the ball out in front.
Only two teams in baseball get the ball further out
in front of the plate. That's where power is. But
yet they also hit opposite field ground balls. You know,

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they're good at that. So to me, they're being coached
really well in situational hitting. And you know, that's something
that I think is really important because you can just
go up there and this is when we're yelling at
the screen about Julio. At times, you can go up
there and kind of take the big daddy hack on
every pitch. And this team as a as a general example,

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I think has been has been doing different things with
different balls in the zone.

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All right, you mentioned his name, Julio, and I think
I mentioned this to you two weeks ago. We're all

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we're not going to get through many weeks where we
don't talk about Seattle's young player, number forty four, Julio
Rodriguez hitting two thirty one on base three h nine,
slugging four point fifteen. Uh, the power is coming. He's
got nine home runs. It feels like the strikeout rates
a little better than this bin Walk's okay, But but
what's your assessment of in all the numbers that you

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see and what you see with your eyes, what's your
assessment of Julio Rodriguez through the first forty eight games.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
So I just I just know that he always has
it's a little bit like Randy where he's got a
white hot level in him.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
And I think he's putting the pieces together.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
You know, I saw that big hit against the Yankees
where you know, he kind of hit that opposite field double.
And what I'm seeing right now over you know, in
the swing data. So the swing data has come out
right now where we can say something about how long
their swing is, with their attack angle and things like that.
And what I'm seeing from him right now is in

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recent time his swing has gotten shorter and more powerful
in terms of bad speed. And so I think he's
gonna put those two pieces together where he can go
the opposite way on that pitch they're really trying to
get him, you know, thigh high, you know, away do
something with that opposite way, but also crush anything on

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the inner half of the play. So I think I
see the pieces coming together. If you look at a
rolling chart, you know, he's starting to hit a few
more flyballs when he was super hot.

Speaker 7 (16:29):
In the past. He's been hitting a lot of flyball.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
His hard hit rate is up recently, So I think
these things are starting to lock in.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
And that feels like that's coaching when you talk about
shortening up the swing and some of those things. I mean,
we've seen him chase some bad pitches. We've seen him
you know, off balance, you know, in the past couple
of years and trying to find himself and fighting, and
it feels like he's he's more in a comfortable swing
zone too right now, where things just you know, feel
better for him. He's less mistakes and you mentioned it,
like he can get hot. He also seems to be

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a guy the defense have to come into play too, right,
Like what he's able to do defensively, what he's able
to do in the base pass. I just feel like
we're still scratching the service with this young guy. And
maybe we expect them, I say, we maybe fans expect
too much of Julio at this age, or maybe those
expectations are realistic.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Well, he's twenty four, and the fun thing about being
twenty four is things are going to get better?

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Are they really? You know, are you sure, because I
think I'd rather be twenty four again.

Speaker 6 (17:27):
Yes, that's what I'm saying. No, I mean as a
twenty four year old, things are still getting better. You know,
things they're not getting better. But when you talk about
aging curves, one of the things that will really helped
him is he's pretty aggressive. He swings a lot, and
he chases a fair amount. And the thing that happens
with age naturally for all players as a group, is

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they swing less and they chase less. And it's about
knowing yourself, about knowing what you can do damage with
what you know. Sometimes you're gonna let us right go
because you can't do anything with it. That's something a
veteran olgen and so you know the thing that that's
the good thing about being where he is at his age.

Speaker 7 (18:09):
Like you see, he.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Came in with a twenty five nine point nine per
strikeout rate. He's improved it over time since then. That
is what agent Kurve said he would do. So I
think part of this that's still there.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
You still got about two or.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Three more years of improvement till his peak that's going
to come in his swing selection.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
When did you peak? You know what what what year
was your peak.

Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well, I'd like to think I.

Speaker 7 (18:35):
Had a light peak because I switched careers. I switched careers.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
I used to do uh, I used to work for
Kuman and I used to do educational publishing for kids.

Speaker 7 (18:45):
And I've only been.

Speaker 6 (18:47):
I've only been a baseball writer since I turned thirty.

Speaker 7 (18:50):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You're still you still have you haven't peaked yet? Then,
I don't think you've peaked yet. I think I think
by the end of the season, I might say we
might see your peak. On these weekly visits athletic joining up.
You know, I still I scratched my head. I'm amazed
at what this team has done. Maybe part of it
is the division they're in, but you know, they've they
beat everybody else too. They've been they've been kind of
cruising along and they're gonna get help. George Kirby makes

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his debut tonight. He's coming back off of you know,
the sore arm and the issues he had in spring training.
What kind of boost can that guy be to this rotation?

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Oh my god, I think he's got the best commands
of the majors. And oh, by the way, great stuff too.
So just a real rock has been a real rock
for that rotation. And you know, I think, you know,
not for nothing, like there's a little bit of an
emotional He's kind of a he's an emotional guy. He's

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been pouting, you know. Yes, that's how I thought in spring.
He was pouting, he was mad, he wanted to be pitching.
So there could be lifts for the entire pitching staff
of just having Kirby back. They revere him so much.
They call him things like the nine pocket God, and
you know they learn from him and they feed off

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of him, So you know, it could be good even
for guys like Emerson, Hancock and Logan Evans, to have.

Speaker 7 (20:11):
You know, a leader up there.

Speaker 6 (20:13):
I'm gonna be looking at the fastball velow. I'm a nerd.
I'm gonna be looking at that number. I want to see.
You know, it becomes meaningful really quickly. So it's a
number that will tell you something really quickly, even in
his first start.

Speaker 7 (20:26):
If I'll tell you how you.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
What do you want to see? Like when we're watching
him tonight, what do we want to see?

Speaker 6 (20:31):
I wanted to see him sit ninety five plus and
I want him to I wanted to throw the slider
as much as he wants. You know, I don't want
to see not you know, not using one of the
pitch types because that means maybe that pitch hurts.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Ah, so yeah, so so slider ninety five fastball, but
not just throwing fastballs and see because that the slider
gives more tor because that's kind of what it is.
That could be more pressure. And if he's feeling that,
I can't imagine he would be though, right, I mean,
there seem to be treating these guys with kids loves
these days, unless.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
He's maybe bring him back up probably, But you know,
one thing that happens when you have TJ for example,
they tell you not to throw the slider, you know,
until you're almost all the way back, so you know,
and you'll just see guys who you know I've I've
talked to is like, yeah, Crochet was like I threw
a couple of splitters. It hurts when I threw it.
I stopped throwing them, you know, right, right, some of

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them pitches don't feel good just because they've learned to
be a certain way and that pitch maybe touches them
in a different way. So like maybe it'd be possible
that he didn't use a pitch, but I would just
love to see him use all his pitches and said
ninety five. Maybe the command won't be elite right off
the bat, but that wouldn't worry me as much as
you know, sitting ninety four and not throwing a slider
or something.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
We'll keep an eye on that tonight. Houston comes in
three and a half games behind Seattle twenty five and
twenty four. They lost too straight to end the series
down in Tampa. Their best pitcher pitch yesterday didn't do
all that well, so Seattle gets a little bit of
a break there. What can we expect to see and
what is I mean a massive four games? I mean
Houston could come out of here in first, Seattle could
come out with a pretty commanding lead, or it could

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look the same when it's all said done if they split.
So what are we looking at with the Houston Astros.

Speaker 6 (22:09):
It's a It's a huge opportunity for the Mariners because
you know, Jordan Alvarez is not there, and even if
he comes back for the series, the hand is bothering him.
He's not been who he's been and they get, yes,
they do get from Rivaldez, but the Mariners are the
second best team in baseball against the Van Thinkers, so

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maybe that's not the scariest you know, matchup in the world.
And then they get Colton Gordon and Ryan Gusto. What's
happening in Houston is the vaunted you know, pitching development
machine has flowed. Now. I'm not saying these guys are terrible.
I'm just saying they throw ninety one ninety two, they
have multiple pitches, and they have okay command, but there's

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nothing to really be scared about. They should put some
numbers up against Gordon and Gusto and at least win,
you know, two of those games. So there's an opportunity
here for them to do real damage and come out
of this putting some distance between them, because this isn't
quite the same Asters team and their best hitter is
not quite who he's been.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
We love that along the way, you know, Sarah joins
before I let you go, We'll encourage people to read.
This was back on May second on the Athletic but
I just got a chance to go through it today,
and it's talking about the strike zone. It feels like
in baseball there's probably nothing talked about more than the
strike zone at times, and of course abs and everything else.
And I just think I saw a story the other
day that maybe there's some things off with abs even

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but what is the difference in this year's strike zone
and maybe kind of explain to folks what that's doing
to the game.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
Yeah, So they.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
Changed in the umpires. The umpires just had a CBA.
They had a collectively bargaining agreement between the Empires Union
and Baseball, and they changed the way they're grading umpires.
And they used to have a two inch buffer zone
and now it's a point seventy five inch. So they're
really what that means they don't get penalized for pitches
they get wrong in that buffer zone. So they used

(24:04):
to have a two inch buffer zone. Now it's sixty
percent smaller, and so that is that they're really pushing.

Speaker 7 (24:12):
These guys to be as tight as possible.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
And so it's the smallest zone it's ever been. Baseball's contention,
and they're correct, is that this is the most correct
it's ever been. Umpire's wrong call percentage is down around
seven percent, the best they've ever been. It's pretty amazing
if you think about how many calls they make seven
percent is not bad. I understand though some of those
are bad and some of those are bad mistakes. What

(24:37):
this looks like, what this zone looks like now is
the zone that was used in Triple A for the
Challenge system. So I believe, and this is where I
editorialize a little bit. I believe that Baseball is preparing
us for the Challenge system next year. We just tried
it in the spring, and now we're basically looking at
what the challenge zone is. And so next year when

(24:59):
they roll out the Challenge Zone, and I'm actually.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
All for it.

Speaker 6 (25:02):
The challenge zone means you have to hit your helmet.
You have three seconds to hit your helmet or you know,
tap your glove or whatever it is. Like, say you're
going to challenge and it can only be the hitter
catcher of the picture. They're not looking over at the
at the coach, they're not waiting, you know, and they
just immediately put it up on the screen. Everybody watches
and they go, oh, strike, you know, and it's kind

(25:23):
of fun. And and then the big calls don't get wrong,
like no, no game ends on a bad call.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
And there's a limit right to that, how many you
can do.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
It's like three perteen you get to I guess you
get to keep one if you get it right. So
there's some ability to keep it. But you know, and
and there'd be some there'll be some intrigue there, you know,
do you use the challenge the second ending space is loaded?

Speaker 7 (25:47):
You know, do you use it or you keep it
for the ninth or you know, stuff like that.

Speaker 6 (25:49):
And then and I think what's most gonna happen is
the catchers are gonna be the one to call it
because they see the zone the bath right, you know.

Speaker 7 (25:56):
But and then some hitters.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
It'll be hilarious when those hitters who think they know the.

Speaker 7 (26:01):
Songs really well.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
And you know, we'll have we'll have percentages like, oh,
this hitter is challenged and he's been right ten percent
of the time.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
Maybe he's just stopped challenging.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
We call you know, we call that, we call that
the Pete Carroll Challenge here in Seattle, because I'm not
sure if he ever got one right, and I would,
I would, and I would say Mike holmgrin, but he
lives here, he does shows with us. He might be listening,
and I don't want to piss off big man, but Mike,
you know, you weren't very good at that either, but
Pete was worse so so, but no, I think it's
I love it. I think it's I think the fun
part of it, that element of it is good. I

(26:32):
wonder if this takes away from a guy like cal
Rawley who's so good at framing pitches, you know, like,
does that change one of his advantages as a catcher,
because he's as good as there is it.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
That right, Well, I know that one of the reasons
that we discovered that the strike zone was different this
year was that there were R and D departments around
baseball that were like, hold on, our good framer. You
know that we've got you know, like Patrick Bailey in
San Francisco, Ory cal Rally, our good framer has some

(27:00):
surprisingly mediocre numbers.

Speaker 7 (27:02):
What's going on?

Speaker 6 (27:03):
And I even know that one front office like spend
a day diving into it and came out being like, well,
strike zone is different. So they're they're you know, as
the strike zone gets tighter and as it gets more correct,
you know, there's a little bit less value in framing,
but there's still game calling blocking, you know, and you
will still get value out of framing. With the challenge system,

(27:25):
you will lose it with ABS, And in fact, ABS
might lead to an entirely new what we think of
as a catcher. They may they may line up as
an infielder, you know, like they may not look at
all like.

Speaker 7 (27:38):
We look now. They might be there.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
They might be there to just like just get ready
to throw, you know, for for for the space dealing.
They may they may not even get into a squad,
you know. So there's you know, there's all sorts of
weird things that might happen if we go to a
full ABS system.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
I like the challenges more. I hadn't heard it described
in the level you just did. I like that. It
sounds like fun thlown up on the screen. Way we
go and have some fun, you know what. That's why
I like having these conversations every week, you know, because
I learned something, listeners learned something. We have some fun
along the way, and at some point this year, you're
gonna peak, and we can't wait for that as well.
We'll just wait for that to happen along the way.
I peaked about twenty years ago. It's been all downhill

(28:15):
since and every listener, I'll tell you that as well
as my producer Andrews. Thank you so much. Have a
great week. In the meantime, you can go read ENO's
work at the Athletic the Athletic dot com click on
the MLB tab. Whether it's Eno or Jason Stark, whoever,
it might be. Some great baseball writers and this year
at twenty eight and twenty, we're all baseball fans in
Seattle and hoping the same continues. Will talk to you
next week. Thanks, you know, thanks for having me. There

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Speaker 1 (29:11):
Let me preface this by saying, we will have a
new open next year. All right, Yeah, we tried to
do one. Didn't work out for a variety of reasons.
Sometimes the best laid intentions don't go through for us. Right,
Sometimes that does happen. But no, we'll have a new
open next year. We'll have some familiar voices.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Maybe the Hans Zimmer theme in there. Oh, I love
that would be fun. That would be fun.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Yeah, I think we're just gonna run with that. We're
just gonna run with that.

Speaker 2 (29:39):
I love that. As long as we get all the
licenses that we need and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I think I think we're good. I'll double all right.
I guess that's a me thing. I better you thing.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
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as we speak, in the thirty two bar and grill,
where I'm gonna tell you again the best club sandwich
I've had in a long time. I'm I'm. I'm a
huge sucker for the club sandwich. I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
What is it about it?

Speaker 1 (30:06):
You know what? I like a good sandwich, but the
club when you kind of stack it all together, Yeah,
something different.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
I think the avocado is the key for the club sandwich, right,
I think that's the key. I think that's the key.
A great one at drewis Gwyn at the at the
Woods Taphouse there. I love that one, but this one's
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King County. We just had a massive upset in the
International Ice Hockey Federation World Championships. What what's going on
when we mean World Championships? He in, Well, every year
in the spring, they have the World Championships for hockey. Uh,
basically it's all the you know, some of the best
players in the world that aren't playing in the Stanley

(30:56):
Cup playoffs and some that were just eliminated for the
Stanley Cup playoffs, including Team Canada with guys like Sidney Crosby,
Jordan Bennington, Nathan McKinnon, et cetera. That's a pretty good lineup,
isn't it, Andrews, if you just kind of look through it.
By the way, we should also mention a couple of
cracking players, Ryker Evans Brandon mon Tour playing for Team
Canada the World Championships right now. Canada came in at

(31:17):
six and oh six one in the tournament. My heavy
favorites against Denmark. Moments ago, we're watching here to the
thirty two bar and grill. Uh. Denmark scores with less
than a minutes ago against Jordan Bennington and they knock
off Canada two to one in the quarterfinals. Canada is hockey.
Canada is not having a good year. I'll tell no,
they are not having a good year. I mean Sidney Crosby, Maclin,

(31:42):
Cela Briney, Philip to Know. I mean Nathan McKinnon, Ryan O'Reilly, Our,
Guy Montour, Jared Spurgeon, mckenson, Leger, Jordan Bennington against a
bunch of guys. I started going through the list for
these guys for Denmark, like it is, huh what Nowaika
Nick l Delers is playing for them? He scored a goal,

(32:02):
but the guys scored the game winner Nick Olison. I
don't know. I mean, it's just come on, Canada, what's
wrong with you? Anyway, they losed that game, huge upset,
one of the biggest upsets in a long time. And
this goes back to the flag football conversation with my
man Chris Kidd. Maybe this proves kids point, but I
think it proves my point. You know, there's just not

(32:27):
enough team to play certain sports to make it competitive
at the Olympic level. Flag football kids trying to tell
me some team from Mexico or Canada could beat a
bunch of Division one college football players.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
I disagree with that.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
I think that's wrong. Maybe we'll find out. First of all,
the NFL shouldn't send players, You shouldn't risk players going there.
But Denmark upsit in Canada. The best thing about World Championships,
international competition or the upsets along the way. So you
know what if Justin Jefferson and Lamar Jackson and everybody
else gets beat by Team Mexico or Team Canada, then kid,

(33:02):
I will come on the air and say I was
wrong and you were right.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
I think the biggest thing with that though, it's more
of a chicken or egg situation, right, So do you
have to have the good players from other countries first
before you can have the competition, or just having the
international competition in a big event like the Olympics make
other countries care about putting stuff like that?

Speaker 1 (33:22):
Why would you care about a sport that's not really
a sport? Yeah, I mean training mechanism for football. Yeah,
that's what it is. Like I man, I'll tell you.
Listen to Petros yesterday we pick he had the Bessie.
He went off on this for a while and I
was like nod in my head cause ID said the
same thing earlier in the day. But he went, I mean,

(33:42):
this is a guy. He went off on it. He
called it a cult, said flight football is a cult time,
which he might be right. He might be right along
the way anyway, that's our daily power play was a
flight football mixed in from my man, Chris Kid, My
Oday Alum and Wazoo alumba man. But yeah, shout out
to Chris kids see kid two o six at kid

(34:05):
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Speaker 4 (35:42):
Here's Ian.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Corbyn Smith. Emerald City Spectrum, locked on all things Seattle
Seahawks football joins us on Thursdays because you know what,
I don't know, Corbyn. If you know this, I'm gonna
give you something. I'm gonna give you some knowledge you
had no idea about as a as a scribe for
the National at Ball League and the beat guy for
the Seahawks. Did you know the NFL is a three
hundred and sixty five day a year deal. Did you

(36:05):
know that?

Speaker 7 (36:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I did not.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
I mean I usually take two here, you know.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
Yeah, it's it's a long process here, the old the
National Football How are you, my friend? I'm good. How
are you? I'm good. I'm good. We're hanging in there.
There's a lot of news going on around the NFL,
and I want to get to some of those topics
in a second. I know you wrote about this on
Emerald City Spectrum, but I love the topic because I
totally agree with this. Let's talk running backs and what

(36:37):
the Seahawks have in that running back room as we
get hear through the OTA's going on right now, and
we'll have mini camp here in a couple three weeks
that we'll all be hanging out at as well. The
addition to Damien Martinez, what we saw from Kenny Macintosh
in Spurts last year, we saw at times from Zach Charbonay.
And I still think the most talented guy in the roster,
and it's really not close is Ken Walker if he's healthy.

(36:59):
How deep in how can headed is this room?

Speaker 3 (37:02):
So I'm gonna say that just from somebody as somebody
that has covered the Seahawks.

Speaker 9 (37:06):
Now, this will be my ninth year covering the team,
and I've been following them basically since I was four
years old, so I've been watching this team for a
long time.

Speaker 3 (37:15):
This might be the deepest running back room they've ever had,
from top to bottom.

Speaker 9 (37:20):
You know, when they had Marshawn Lynch and Seawn Alexander
and players like that.

Speaker 3 (37:23):
Obviously those were the elite of the elite.

Speaker 9 (37:25):
Running backs, but you didn't have two or three or
even four deep guys that could start in National Football League.
I think you can make an argument all four backs
that the Seahawks have atop their depth chart, including the
new rookie Damian Martinez, I think all four of those
guys have enough talent that they could start in the
National Football League. So the talent is there, there's no

(37:46):
question about it. But the running back room was impacted
by the offensive line last year. The line has got
to be significantly better, and my opinion is that it's
going to be a much better group with the line
new line coaches they have. Drafting Gray's able in the
first round, a lot of other young players are gonna
be a year older, should be stronger, should be better players.

(38:08):
They're gonna be better coached. That's gonna have a lot
of bearing on how these running backs perform. But I
am really fascinated to see what the competition looks like
behind Ken Walker. I expect that he's going to be
the starter because you said he is the most gifted
back on their roster. I think the zone heavy system
will be a good fit for him. I'm just looking

(38:30):
forward to see how things play out behind him, because
I wouldn't be surprised if Damian Martinez pushes Zach Charbonney
and Kenny McIntosh right away. I mean, we're talking about
a guy that averaged six yards per carry his entire
college career. He's explosive, he's powerful, and he brings that
physicality I think Mike McDonald desperately wants to add to
this offense.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah, I think that's the thing with Martinez that jumps
out of me. I don't know why this was, Maybe
because he was a bigger back and he wasn't you know,
as as shifty, maybe say as a ken Walker. But
you know, sharbon Ay came in and there's like this
talk about you know what a power back he was
and short yard and I don't think i've seen now
we've seen him make some terrific runs, especially when ken

(39:11):
Walker was hurt last year. I'm not trying to take
anything away from Zach Sharboney, but if you want to
see a true physical back, and Husky fans and Wazoo
fans know this about Dami Martinez because they watched it
when he was at Rogan State. That is a powerful
yards after contact back. He's different than anything else they
have on the roster.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (39:29):
He's two hundred and seventeen pounds and he runs like
he's two thirty two thirty five.

Speaker 9 (39:34):
I mean, he is a tank and I think in
most drafts ian he would have probably been a fourth
or fifth round pick, but this year was so deep
at running back that you could get starter quality players
in the sixth and seventh round. It was the deepest
running back class I've ever seen. This kid is a
really talented player. And here's the thing ian I think

(39:55):
a lot of people there's just kind of this preconceived
notion that, well, he's a bigger back.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
He isn't very fast. He ran a four or five
one forty at his pro day workouts. He's not slow.

Speaker 9 (40:06):
And if you turn on the tape, he had a
seventy yard i think it was seventy two yard touchdown
run in their bowl game, the Pop Tart Bowl, and
he just burst out of the scene there. And he
is more than capable of ripping off big runs. And
what I think the Seahawks were very intrigued by is
the fact that you go back and look at the
Oregon State film in particular, Oregon State ran a lot

(40:28):
more zone than what Miami did, and he was extremely
effective reading his blocks in front, being decisive cutting back
against the.

Speaker 3 (40:36):
Grain when he needed to.

Speaker 9 (40:38):
You're talking about a big, powerful back that also is
really good at reading his cuts and understands how to
run the zone concept. So he just checked off all
the boxes from a running standpoint that I think Mike McDonald,
Clink Kubiak we're looking for before.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
I get to the news week in the nflm the
rules changes and some rules changes weren't changes. Do you
think that they I think they need four on the
roster in today's NFL guys get banged up, But do
you think they keep four or do they keep three
on the fifty three man? And if they keep three,
they're gonna try to float somebody through onto a practice squad.
My guess with that, My guess that would be would

(41:15):
be Macintosh. But you know who knows what they're able
to do in that regard. What do you think they
end up doing roster wise?

Speaker 9 (41:22):
Well, I think with the offense, they're gonna be running
the Clint Kobiak runs a lot of two back SATs
and he is more of a conventional pro style than
what we've seen from the last couple of offensive coordinators
the Seahawks have had. I think they're gonna have five
running backs total when you include the full back, because
that's gonna be the big difference here.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
But I think you got.

Speaker 10 (41:42):
Four running backs and you also have I believe it's
gonna be Robbie oots that wins the full back job.

Speaker 9 (41:48):
That's my prediction right now. But I think they will
keep all four of those backs.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
And I think George.

Speaker 9 (41:52):
Hallani could be on a lot of rosters. He's not
gonna be on seattles. But that's your guy that you
have in your practice squad, is your insurance. That also
is a very capable NFL back.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Gormn Smith joining us emeraldcy Spectrum make sure you subscribe
to you about that at the end of the broadcast.
Here with him in a few minutes, let's let's talk
about the news in the NFL. I'll start with the
I'll be honest with you and maybe you'll change my
mind and I'll be come passionate about it one way
or the other. The tush push it's still there. It
didn't didn't get out lawed. I don't necessarily love it.

(42:22):
I don't think it's necessarily football. I'm but I'm not
gonna lose sleepover it as an NFL fan either. Would
you think about that rule?

Speaker 3 (42:30):
Well, I'm glad that they didn't ban it.

Speaker 9 (42:32):
Personally, I get the argument, well, it's more like a
rugby play, but look, what if it was so easy
one more than one team would be doing it the
way the Eagles are doing it, and I just don't
think it's fair to ban something just because one team
got so good at it.

Speaker 3 (42:48):
I just don't think that that's fair at all.

Speaker 9 (42:51):
And if you're banning it, these other teams should figure out, like,
how can we use it?

Speaker 3 (42:54):
How can we make effective part of our offense? They
can do what we can't do.

Speaker 9 (42:59):
The Eagles obviously the personnel to do it. But I
am interested to see if Seattle tries to put Jalen
Milrow in for those plays and maybe let big Robbie
Jots push him from behind and you'll have your own
version of the chess push.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
But I personally was glad they didn't ban it.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Well, I think it matters about one thing. It's fantasy football,
to be honest with you. Jalen Hurtsby remains a top
first round pick as a quarterback because he's had twenty
nine touchdowns combined in the last two years, and most
of those have been the two yard line. So that's
as far as most of us are concerned, that's the
biggest thing. This is the one I was interested in
Corbin the whole scening in Wildcard and it got tabled.

(43:36):
They ended up tabling the seating in wildcard and what
it was basically there was the Detroit Lions proposed it,
they won, alter the NFL playoffs, how they were seated.
It was taken off the table. It may get reintroduced,
but it looks like it's gonna be basically the same
as we've seen for the twenty twenty five season. Explain
exactly what that is and what your thoughts are on that. Well.

Speaker 9 (44:01):
The reason that this has cropped up as an issue,
you look at what happened this past season, and this
isn't the first time this has happened, it's kind of rare,
but you had a fourteen win team that was a
wild card, the Minnesota Vikings. Detroit ended up winning the
division with fourteen wins and they got the number one seeds.
So think about the difference there. Minnesota went from being

(44:22):
the number one seed to playing a road game in
the first round. And so there's been a lot of
people that have been complaining about that, Like these teams
that win fourteen games and they're a wild card, they're
clearly in a better division than say the NFC South,
where everybody except Tampa Bay had a losing record, So
that's been the argument. Everybody looked back at the Seahawks
in twenty ten when they had a losing record and

(44:44):
won the NFC West and then won a home playoff game,
the famous Beast Quake game. It doesn't happen very often
that you see a team that has that bad of
a record that wins a division.

Speaker 3 (44:54):
But my viewpoint on this is, if you're going.

Speaker 10 (44:57):
To make it that the seeding is just based on record,
then get rid of the divisions. What's the point of
having a division if winning the division doesn't get you
a home game, Like I still think it should have value.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
At that point, you might as well do what soccer does.

Speaker 9 (45:11):
And just say we have a Western and Eastern conference
and you play seventeen different opponents every year. Get rid
of the two games against three rival system and move forward.
I personally think that they have a really good system
right now. If it's not broken, there's no reason to
fix it. So that's another thing that I'm glad they tabled,
and I'm hoping that it doesn't re emerge, because.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Again, division champions, you should get a home game.

Speaker 9 (45:36):
I understand the sentiment with well a crappy team that
wins the NFC South, they shouldn't get a home game
over this fourteen win team. But at the end of
the day, there's got to be a reason for the
division to matter. And if win getting a home game
isn't part of the equation to winning the division, then
what's the point.

Speaker 1 (45:54):
Well, if you get the if it's automatic bid to
the playoffs. I guess that would be my arguing against
that is if listening you win your division you're in,
doesn't mean you're going to have necessarily a home game,
but you're in like you've got it, You're like you're
into the playoffs at that point. That would I guess
that would be the argument there. I I you know,
I think it happened once after twenty ten, didn't happen

(46:14):
like two years later, didn't the Giants win the NFC
East or somebody when the NFC East for a seven
to ten rounds I thought it was Carol, Maybe it
was it was, but it did happen again.

Speaker 10 (46:23):
Panther had an eight and actually I think Tampa Bay
a few years back went eight to nine and won
the NFC South. It was Tom Brady's last season.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Actually, yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
They lost their playoff game.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
So I think of today's NFL, I mean I would
rather see I don't know what the what the what
the the the purpose of a division is in today's
NFL for this reason, it's it's we're playing so many
games not on this continent, right, We're playing in Europe. Hell,
we for some I don't know, some money grab reason,

(46:56):
we're gonna play in Brazil this year, right, isn't that
Friday game in Brazil?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Ill?

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (47:01):
So you've got like all this travel taking place. These
teams are on charters. It's a once a week thing.
It's not like you're playing, you know, back to back
games like the NBA or the National Hockey League. You're
you're playing once a week. I don't understand that. The
I think we've moved past divisions anyway, I guess that
would be my point. I think I let's just let's
get rid of the.

Speaker 10 (47:18):
Divisions, and that's where that, you know, just having sixteen
teams in each conference and then like why does it
Why did the Seahawks need to play the Cardinals twice
a year?

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Anyway, It's not like that was a rivalry before they did.
The realignment. I just that would be a fine system
to me.

Speaker 9 (47:35):
I just I don't see any point keeping the divisions
if it's gonna be you know, Oregon's gonna give the
high the best records, the highest seed. If you're gonna
do it that way, then just make it all one
big conference and orchestrate your schedule with seventeen different opponents
every year. I think fans would actually enjoy that because
there's more of a chance that you're gonna be able

(47:55):
to see your favorite team if you don't live in Seattle,
because they're gonna have more different opponents every year.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
Yeah, I mean, you maybe would get I guess I'm
trying to argue against myself and you here, but maybe
you would get pushed back where there's traditional rivalries, right
with like say Dallas and Washington, uh in the NFC East.
The NFC North seems to be a division filled with rivalries.
If I'm not mistaken, right, I mean that it seems

(48:20):
like you.

Speaker 9 (48:21):
Knows fans would be upset if Green Bay and Chicago
only played once a year. And I think the NFL
would look at like Dallas and New York Giants and say,
we don't get the revenue from having two games a year,
so there would be the pushback.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
Yeah, and AFC North, right that like the Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Baltimore,
like those types of rivalry, because I would say, I'm
just kind of going through, let's look at teams right now.
Maybe like there's really no rivalry in the NFC South.
I don't think is there like between New Orleans or Carolina, Atlanta,
Tampa Bay. Probably not in the NFC West, I believe,

(48:59):
and I talked to you know, my buddy John Lunn
comes on every week on Tuesdays with John lenn Unleashed,
and I think he shares these same sentiments, having covered
the forty nine ers for the last decade plus. I
think you could make an argument in the NFC West,
the only real rivalry is Seattle in San Francisco. I
think that's a rivalry. I think it always has been
wherever the Rams are playing this year, Saint Louis, Anaheim,
La Inglewood doesn't matter, nobody cares. And Arizona, like you said,

(49:22):
is a nothing burger. So there's no real rivalries there.
NFC South, No, the two NFC other NFC divisions, Yes,
AFC South, God do we really need to see Indianapolis
play Jacksonville twice a year, right, Like, do we need
to see that? Probably not. I think you'd have pushback.
I think you're right. Networks might push back because they
want two Dallas New York Giant games. They want to Washington,

(49:43):
you know, Philadelphia, whatever it might be. But yeah, Corman,
I think just from a competitive standpoint, I don't understand
that they the necessity have divisions either.

Speaker 10 (49:54):
But I also think, and now I'm thinking about this
a little more, you could rekindle.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Some of the rivalries from the pre too. Like you
could set up the schedule.

Speaker 10 (50:02):
You could set up the instead of having six games, Yeah,
instead of having six games against Arizona, San Francisco and
the Rams, you could work back in Kansas City, Denver
Chargers and make it that you know, and and the
travel would be cut down somebody and listen Broncos.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Seahawks every year. That would be huge for both fan bases.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
Yeah, you could.

Speaker 3 (50:27):
You could place the division set up and do that.

Speaker 9 (50:29):
And think about this too, like there's some rivalries that
were outside of the West divisions that get split up
by realignment.

Speaker 3 (50:37):
You could do that with every team, and you could
set it up.

Speaker 9 (50:40):
Jacksonville plays Tampa Bay every year in a battle for Florida,
and you know that there's a lot of fun things
that they could do with it. Actually, now i'm thinking
about it, I'm actually starting to wonder if I might
actually want that system in place, and then you could
do your seating. You can do your seating based on
record then and nobody's gonna care.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah. I think there's probabrobably more teams, and there's probably
a fewer true rivalries in the NFL than like true
rivalries in the NFL than there are just hey, let's
just go play games. I mean, it just isn't And
I like the thought. Yeah, because Seattle play in the
AFC West for all those years, rekindle the Raiders and Seahawks.
I mean, although their Raiders are now and they're what

(51:18):
fourth different city, third different city, But yeah, you could
do that Denver Seattle every year. Awesome. I mean, that's
a that that goes back so many years. There's so
many layers to it. There's other layers to other sports,
including say, you know, wait for it, the NBA when
it comes back Denver, the Nuggets and Sea and Sonics. Hell,
we even have a little bit of that with Colorado
and the Kraken, right with the playoff series a couple

(51:40):
of years ago with kill mccarr, you know, with a
hit from behind all those things. So yeah, I think
there's a better way to do it. I just I
I think there's not only a better way to do it.
I am still a believer that you should not penalize
teams for having great records at the at the so
another team with the lesser record, you can get a
home game. But you know, we're ways away from that.

(52:00):
I am surprised. I'm surprised they didn't do the receding though.
I am a little bit surprised by that.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Yeah, I thought it was heading towards the direction that
it was going to go there.

Speaker 10 (52:09):
But I still kind of feel like we're to me,
the feeding thing is kind of me personally, and nothing
burger this to me.

Speaker 9 (52:16):
The system has worked for a long time. I just
don't understand why we'd have to mess with it personally.
But that's just the way I feel about it. I
feel like that, you know, you can make sound arguments
on both sides of the coin.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
So alrighty, well, oh yeah, we're good we're done for today.
We'll get we got when new OTAs that we can
get back out there start again. It's coming up, is
it next week or so?

Speaker 9 (52:39):
Yeah, I'm May twenty seven to the first one. I
don't know when the first one open to media is
going to be. That has not been announced yet, but
I know they have three next week.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
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Speaker 1 (54:56):
All right, we are back at the Kraken Community ice PLA.
Expecting to have Jason Bodill new GM for the Crack
and on the show tomorrow Crack and nine three point
three krafm me bet you. I haven't had a chance
to talk to him yet. We've got a little event
we're doing later on today for season ticket members, so
I'm excited for that as well. I'm sure things like
coaching search will come up.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Yeah you think so.

Speaker 1 (55:17):
My buddy's texting me today. Hey, I'm a non season
ticket holder, but I go to about twenty games a year.
Can you ask about the coaching search? Well? And I'm like, yeah,
you know what. I'm glad somebody reminded me about that.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Yeah, I'm not sure if it would have been brought
up if you didn't text me.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Not sure. But we'll get to that and we'll have
him on again. The plans to have him on the
show tomorrow, and we'll kind of get an update from
the man himself. As you remember when we were out
here last it was when they announced the changes. Roden
Francis moving upstairs the role of president on the hockey side,
and Jason Bodol moving from assistant GM to GM and
he will have the say and the coaching decision when
it's all said done. Well, a'll give input, but Ron's

(55:50):
kind of bigger picture now as well. They've got all kinds.
They got the amateur scouting meetings going on here too.
I'm getting ready for the NHLNHL Draft, which is June
twenty seventh and twenty eighth. They had the pro scouts
here last week, which obviously you're preparing for free agency
and so forth. So it's been a busy time here
at the KSEI is what is it twenty eight of
the thirty two teams in the NHL are in the
same mode right now. Then the off season, who are

(56:12):
going to target and all that? Okay, I want to
hit on this. Excuse me, I want to hit on this.
I know that Chuck and Bucky and Ashley addressed it. Yesterday,
and I know Mark mentioned it at the top of
his show today. In fact, you can listen on the
podcast we always joke about the shameless plug and all
that on the iHeartRadio app and how you go ahead

(56:33):
and make sure you preset number one ninety three point
three k r FM. And in this case, I would
urge you to do so, and I would urge you
to take listen to Marks if nothing else, listen to
the first segment he did today his show at ten
o'clock and you can make your own decisions and judgments
from there. I'll try to address a couple of things
just from my standpoint and where we are. Every show

(56:55):
is different, every show on this radio station, whether it's
Chuck buck Ashley, whether it's MJ and the Midday, whether
it's myself with Anders and Jess, or whether it's the
afternoon show with Softy, Dick and Jackson. Every show is
kind of like its own little island. We all do
our own thing, and we all do radio differently. It's

(57:18):
what makes this place very unique. There are some sports
radio strations across the country that are a little more
cookie cutter. Everyone sounds the same. Maybe they all yell,
maybe they all are very quiet. Maybe they're all analytical.
Maybe they're all very buttoned down. Maybe every maybe there's
shows that do nothing but interview each other and little
stick things and stuff like that. Our shows are all different.

(57:41):
They are. I mean, it's amazing how different our shows
are and how the sound of the station with the
liners and our guy, a great voice, Guy Vick Orlando.
The sound of KJR has been the same for thirty years.
But the shows are different. And the one thing that
three of the four shows have in common is they
have a long long history in this market. I mean,

(58:03):
Chuck Powell and Bucky Jacobson and Ashley their show is
the up until recently was the infant of the station.
And Chuck's been here for over a decade. Now, that's
a lifetime in radio. What's really a lifetime in radio
is Dave Softie Maller thirty years or so at this
radio station, close to thirty years. Dick Fane just under

(58:23):
that forever. I still kind of feel like the new guy.
I've been here nineteen years, start in September, nineteen years.
But we're all different shows. And as we sit on
these islands together, you know, kind of a conglomerate. We
sit on these islands. We do things differently, but no
show speaks for another show, and I think that's important

(58:45):
to know, you know, I think Mark realizes he made
a mistake, and not just one, but two. Ryan Roland
Smith is really well respected here, at least amongst media
members and listen from a fan standpoint, there is no
broadcaster in the world that is universally liked or universally disliked.

(59:07):
Nobody gets one hundred percent approval rating. Nobody does not
in this business, whether you're a play by play, color analyst,
talk show host, sports anchor, reporter, what have you. If
you are on the air with a microphone in front
of you, nobody in this planet is universally beloved. There
you will find somebody that somebody does not like. It's

(59:28):
as simple as that. It's a very subjective world that
we live in. But I think, you know, for me,
I'm never going to focus in on how someone looks
or how they sound, because frankly, I do this for
a living every day, and for seventy two to seventy
five days a year, I do it on the Crack
and Hockey Network, and I work with people. We all

(59:51):
get abuse. We all take a shot from people on
a daily basis. I don't think it's rare that we
do a broadcast on TV, and for sixteen years at
Fox thirteen, it's where we do a thing on television
in which we would not hear something positive negative and
usually both. It's just the nature of the beast. You
get into this business, you've got to have thick skin.

(01:00:13):
You have to have thick skin. But in this market,
the one thing I've learned over nineteen years, it is
a very tight knit media community. And you know, Andrews,
you've only been in it for a few years now,
but you see it. Many of us that have been
here for a long time are friends or friendly. I
may not agree with how someone writes, does a show,

(01:00:35):
a column that he or she does, or a radio
show that he or she does, but if you're working
in media market twelve, I've got pretty good respect for you,
and hopefully the other way around. All of us work
hard to have the respect of the listener. All of
us work hard to have the respect of fellow media
members who we rely on for information, who we rely

(01:00:56):
on for content on our radio shows or on our
television broadcast or wherever it may be. If you don't
have those relationships, frankly, you have nothing. And I know
for me personally, I've made plenty of mistakes along the way,
especially younger and earlier in my career. I look back,
there's a many things I said in Salt Lake City, Portland, Oregon,

(01:01:16):
and even the first couple of years here at KJR,
and hell, even probably the last two weeks here at
KJR that I probably look back and say, I wish
I hadn't said that. But I do try, and hopefully
do try to treat people who are my peers, colleagues,
people I know, with respect. Mark made a mistake but
that's his and he talked about it today and you

(01:01:37):
can listen to his apology in his podcast from the
first hour today. But I do want to make one
thing perfectly clear. Whether it's Mark, James, Chuck Powell, Dave Maller,
or anybody else, they don't speak for me or my show.
They are not who I am. They are not who

(01:01:57):
anybody on my show. Is the closest when somebody comes
to speaking about our show would be Jessamine or Anders.
But really it's me. My name's on there. This is
my show, and I will have guests on that I
want to have on. No one's going to tell me otherwise.
I'm going to have somebody on, whether you like him
or not, simple as that. And you know what's funny,

(01:02:19):
there have been many instances over the years where I've
had guests on and people say, why do you have
it from my station? Why do you have that person on?
I can't believe you have that person on because I
want to and I think they add something to the station.
And if the listeners tell me different, then we make
a move and we pivot. But my biggest thing that
I want to kind of get across is, you know

(01:02:39):
Mark said in a tweet that he SEMs deleted, and
I think this was as big a mistake as he made,
is you know you're never going to come on my
show or any other show on KJR. Again. No, you
don't speak for me. Nobody speaks for me. But you
don't speak for me, and you don't speak for my show,
and you don't speak for the entire station, none of
us do. I don't speak for Chuck and Bucket or
Softy and vice versa, all the way around. You guys,

(01:02:59):
get the point. The final thing I want to say
about that whole situation is this, because it's become a thing.
I'm not sure if there's someone I didn't hear from
in the last forty eight hours, team executives, team personnel, people,
media members, listeners, friends. I've heard from all of you,

(01:03:20):
as have Chuck and Bucky and Ashley and Jess and
Andrews and Jackson, Softy, LUCKI is out of the country,
fain right, doesn't matter. But the last thing I want
to point out is this. None of us are bigger
than KJR. None of us. Yeah, maybe Softy. None of
us are bigger than KJR. None of us are. This

(01:03:41):
is a brand. When I got a job in two
thousand and six, when Purple Sheet said I'm going to
offer you the job in two thousand and six, I
don't think I've ever been more professionally satisfied in my
life than I was that day. Because Sports Radio k
whether it be Sports Radio nine fifty KJR at the time,

(01:04:03):
or Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM now
or the iHeart Sports Radio which you can listen on
the podcast, things have changed, it's evolved, but KJR has
remained the same since they won all sports, from the
days of Keith Shipman, and Rick Dupree and Bob Blackburn
and Kevin collabor the early days with the Sports Babe
with Nancy Michael Knight, New York Vinnie, Brian Wheeler, the

(01:04:29):
late great Brian Wheeler, of course, gros and Gas, and
so many others. This radio station is Seattle Sports. It
always has been, and it always will be Seattle Sports.
None of us are bigger than that. But we all,
I think, I hope we all understand the responsibility we have. Listen,

(01:04:49):
there is another sports radio station in town. We know
that they do their thing. We do our thing. But
there is one one radio station in town that has
been a sports radios for three plus decades and it
has always been there first and foremost for you, as
the sports fan. You may not always agree with what
I say, my opinions, my guest's opinions, my producer's opinions.

(01:05:14):
That's fine. Respect is all we ask for, it's all
we should give, and in this case, it's also responsibility
as hosts on one of the great sports radio institutions
in the country. People talk about ratings all the time.
Who do you have under contract? Who are you a

(01:05:34):
flagship for and all of that, and those things are
all very important, but the most important thing, the most
important thing for all of us that work at KJR,
is that we have a responsibility to uphold, in a
respectful fashion to the history of this great radio station.

(01:05:58):
We have our ups and downs, we have our fights
internally as almost like family members, but most of us realize,
most of us realize that this is a big deal
to be working at Sports Radio KJAR, and our responsibility
individually as hosts is to keep that tradition and the history.

(01:06:22):
The graz Gas, the sports Babe and others that came
before us have provided. And I say that as someone
who's been here for twenty years almost that's our responsibility.
This radio station is our responsibility, and I take it seriously,
and I hope everyone understands that nobody speaks for the

(01:06:42):
entire station, but we all have a responsibility to the station.
Our responsibility is to make sure we do our very
best to keep that tradition, the history, and the respect
alive because this is a brand that means a lot
to so many of us. So that's all I got
to say about that. We're going to move on. We're
all moving on. But I wanted to get that off
my chest, and no, Chuck and Bucky and Ashley addressed

(01:07:03):
it yesterday. So we move on. Dick Fane will join
us coming up next. I've been saying this for years,
and I think it reminds me very time. We need
like when when Softy is gone and I think he's
gone for like I don't know, a month or something.
Is he on a sabbatical? Is he on a dimich sabbatical?

(01:07:24):
What's he doing? We need to We need different music, Fain,
can you we need different music for Dick Fane. This
is a this is a Softy thing his NERD star wars.

Speaker 11 (01:07:34):
Well, I mean, I just went through the entire season
of and Or, but I'm not doing what do you think?
I thought it got better and better as it went along.
After three episodes, I was calling Jackson, going what am
I watching?

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Like?

Speaker 11 (01:07:48):
Help me figure this whole thing out? But yes, they
got a lot better.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
Hey, Dick, tell the truth. You called Jackson because you're
kind of planning the seed. You want to be on
the podcast with those guys.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
Yes, that's what I want to rank movie and TV shows. Absolutely,
I'll be a guess. I'll be a guest on the pot.

Speaker 11 (01:08:05):
Come on, I can probably you know, I can probably
add something in there, the nineteen eighties and nineties genre.

Speaker 4 (01:08:11):
I might be able to add a little to that,
to that cattle agent agent flavor, to the show man.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
We do need like a representative from under holder generation
to say, yes.

Speaker 4 (01:08:22):
The geriatric generation has softly on that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:24):
Yet has he been on that? No?

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
I don't think Jackson wants him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Actually, you know what true, very true. I don't you
know what I don't play.

Speaker 4 (01:08:35):
You can play as far as the song goes. You
can play whatever you want.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
May choose something though it's we're somewhat restricted, now, are
we not. We have the whole music library world.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Even THO when we play for soft he's like a
knockoff Star Wars one.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
So it's like, well, because you know what has happened,
Dick is and Andrews is. This is basically we've we've
kind of entered in this world's like the nil of
of of sports radio and stuff. Now everybody wants to cut.
Everybody wants a piece the actions right on their hand
out give me something, give me something along the way.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Well, after last night's game, you can play anything NBA related.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
My wow, you know what I was wild about that.
We got in We had a little weekly golf league.
Get in and I sit down, We're all sitting there.
We had TV kind of where we sit in the
back of the corner of the place, and and it
was it was what it was, a thirteen fourteen point
lead with two or three minutes left, and I'm like, okay, well,
this thing's over. The hockey games a one goal game,

(01:09:27):
so we flip it over to Stars Oilers. They immediately
within a second the Stars score like two quick goals. Okay,
five to three. Waitress comes over and she server comes
over and she says, hey, can we switch it back
to the basketball And I'm like, game's over, isn't She goes, no,
she flipped it over. Then we started looking on social media.

(01:09:48):
It's like, uh, what happened at the other game? And
how I mean, wow, that was That's why playoffs are fun.
I've heard this for a while, Dickon. Yes, playoffs are
fun in all sports.

Speaker 7 (01:09:57):
Fun.

Speaker 11 (01:09:58):
Yes, the fun particularly the NBA, because I don't think
there's any sport that looks more different in the playoffs
the NBA. And I you know, people accuse me of
trying to preach the word too much, and uh, you know,
and that's one thing we're going to talk about in
the in the first segment with Hugh is just you know,
what is the the size of the vocal minority, because

(01:10:19):
you know what I'm talking about, there is a vocal
minority in this town that not only takes it that far,
not only takes it to the to the point where
they say we don't watch the NBA. They take it
further and say the NBA is a crap product.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
And I'd be like, how do you know that if
you don't watch?

Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
Yeah, well, that's that's my favorite. It's I've said this
for years. It's my The NBA is Seattle's sports porn.
Nobody admits to watch. Nobody admits to watching it, but
we all do. And that's what the NBA is. It's
sports porn in the city and and it always will
be until it's until it comes back, and then we

(01:10:58):
can all gladly watch it again even though we haven't
been watching it. Wink wink for.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
The you're saying that the porn can be out in
the open. Then when the Sonics come back, is at
the the end society.

Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
Yeah, I think so, I think we do that. I
think it could be. But I will say I'm not
a huge fan of regular season NBA. I find it
well and part of it is guy sitting out and
all that stuff, and there's a lack of It's a
sport that does have a lack of effort at times.
You get to this time of the year, whole different world, man,

(01:11:28):
a whole different world effect. Even go back two weeks
to the first round of the playoffs, it's a whole
different world. So I'll look for that conversation day. What
else you got coming up?

Speaker 11 (01:11:35):
Oh yeah, Bill Kruger at four o'clock talking about our
red hot lows, Marin Arrows and uh, you know, just
sweet maybe little Leu you make the call. Hugh and
I have got a lot to get to on the Seahawks.
I want to find out when he thinks about these
points spreads. We're favored in seven of seventeen games, and
only I believe two of them are greater than a
point and a half. I don't understand the hate that

(01:11:59):
Vegas has for this ten and seven football team that
I don't think exactly half it's seven and a half
seven and a half. Yeah, I don't understand now a
team that went ten and seven that now, in my
opinion and opinion of many.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
Not everybody, but the opinion of.

Speaker 11 (01:12:12):
Many, has a better quarterback now than they did last year.

Speaker 4 (01:12:16):
The defense didn't get any worse.

Speaker 11 (01:12:18):
We know that a second year under a head coach
instead of a rookie year in their head coach.

Speaker 4 (01:12:22):
I just I don't understand it. I don't get it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
I kind of like it.

Speaker 4 (01:12:26):
I kind of like, well, that's true.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
No, I don't like it exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:12:29):
I think you can.

Speaker 11 (01:12:30):
I think you can have both takes. I think you
can be kind of befuddled by it but also be like, okay, fine,
I'll just I'll just make a lot of money betting
the over.

Speaker 4 (01:12:39):
Thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
Hey, even twenty twelve and thirteen. I think you have
to go back and look at the historical things. But
even then they weren't getting any credits and they fed
off of that. Yes, absolutely fair. Hell it's Earl Thomas
thing Man. He gives me respect. Did you were first
round pick? Shut up like you know it gives you respect.
You're a six tyme ball bro. No man, respect those guys.
They all everyone disrespected them. And it helped them. Maybe

(01:13:02):
it'll help this team as we all right, Dick Faine,
will Hugh Millin coming up next to you tomorrow

Speaker 4 (01:13:06):
For the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness, This is
paddle day, saying so long everyone,

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