Furness Show 5-7: We Root Against the Thunder, Gregg Bell, Brent Severyn.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Greg Bell is going to join us at one thirty.
We'll talking a little bit about Shaquille Griffin and is
that a fit here in Seattle if they do indeed
go ahead and sign them, which seems to be all
signs are pointing to them bringing back their former Was
he a second round pick? I believe he was a
second round pick?

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Maybe third. I was gonna say maybe third.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I'll look, yeah, look that up a little fact check
for me. I believe he was a second or third
day pick when it was all said and done. But yeah,
I mean, good player was a pro bowler for Seattle.
They let him walk in free agency because there's been
some sort of weird resistance to ever signing guys the
second contract, third round pick. Okay, so it was, but
we'll see if they resigned. We'll talk to Greg about

(00:38):
that as well, coming up at one thirty. I think
there's a fit, to be honest with you, So he's
not a pro bowler necessarily or an all pro guy,
but he makes you better. He's better than what you
have right now, better than pritch It for example, better
than Joe probably for sure, and depending on twenty nine too. Yeah,
And I'm telling you character through the roof as well.
Need that in the younger locker room. I talk about

(01:01):
Jared Reid all the time. There's guys like Reid and Williams,
but there's a lot of young dudes in that room too,
So I'm all in. We'll talk about that with Greg
coming up in a little bit as well. I retweeted
something today, reposted whatever the hell we call it these days?
A story from my friend Jason Quick. He works out
of Portland, longtime blazer beat writer for The Oregonian, now

(01:24):
works for the Athletics. Senior writer for the Athletic. Does
a lot of kind of in depth features on guys
around the league. And there is a story he did
Sonic fans, I go read it. It's about George Carl.
It's fantastic. It's so well done and really some great
insight on George. One of the things that came out
of it. So do you see how active Karl is

(01:47):
on X. That's not him, it's not him. It is
his manager, his business manager, and he has and he
and he for the most part, okay's what's being said,
But that's a lot of time because there's a lot
of back and forth. He goes after Kenner, Perkins and
some other guys. It's not really George. The story is

(02:09):
interesting because it talks about George and the voice of
and the and the opinions and and the knowledge of George.
Carl who is by the way, an Asmith Hall of
Famer twenty twenty two inductee, is kind of not being
listened to a lot anymore. And you know, George said
some things in his book about people and managed management

(02:31):
and players around the league that he's that he kind
of took a hit for his son's an assistant coach,
Kobe's an assistant coach in the NBA. He feels there's
some that feel that maybe he's been stymied a little
bit by being George's kid. Usually be the other way around,
should do her standards, but sometimes it works against you
as well. George call to me is arguably the most

(02:53):
popular coach that never won a title in our city.
I mean, Pete won a title, Lenny won a title,
But I think I think George in a lot of
ways for a lot of people, probably Trump's even Lenny Wilkins,
who is the only saw a coach to win lead
him with title. Lou had a special aura about him,

(03:15):
kind of bigger than life, grumpy curmudgeon, what have you?
Still does his commercials for what is it, the old
the Senior Home, Uh, whatever that place is. It's a
competitor for them. Shag shag. Oh wow that But those
are older because he's not of the same ability to
speak and do things anymore. But but you know, like

(03:37):
we've got a handful of coaches, I mean, Holmgren, Panela, Pete, Pete,
for sure, but George, for some reason, to me, has
always kind of stood above the rest. Four nine, four
to five one. You can chime in on this. But
he talked about a variety of different things. He had
battles with players, He was outspoken. He's a guy that
tells you exactly what he feels. I think it's one

(03:58):
of the things missing in today is real opinions, not
self serving opinions, just real opinions.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
And there's a big difference between the two.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
But I read Jason's story today, I would say, hey,
let's get Georgia on the phone. He's got if you remember,
he battled throat and neck cancer also prostate cancer. Still
got some issues going on with those. He's getting some
things done where hopefully his voice comes back soon or
better than it was. I saw him a year year

(04:29):
and a half ago at a cracking game. He was
in one of the sweets. We were hanging out in
before I worked for him. Spent some great time with him,
just had a ton of fun. His family was there.
His daughter works for the state, so she was here.
But you know, we talked for a while. But even
then his voice was kind of it was a little frazzled.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
I think soft.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
He's had him on since, but it's we're gonna get
the writer Jason Quick on at some point. But I
would read the story tells a great depiction of who
and what George Carl was very important piece to our
history here in Seattle. Also then, of course brings up
all the bad memories of the fact that this team left,
and he did say something in there that Sonic fans

(05:06):
won't like to Jason in the article about the great
respect he has for Sam Presty and the way they're
running the organization in Oklahoma City, which gets me to this.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Now.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Listen, George looks at it from a basketball standpoint, and
I understand that he also George also coached that had
a couple of coaching stops after he left Seattle, so
he lives.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
In Denver, that's right, coached Milwaukee and Denver. Right, So.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
He's a little different than someone like us that grew
up here. But I looked back and while these guys
are in the playoffs right now Oklahoma City, and I
kind of mentioned this.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
The other day, I always get this nervous.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Twitch this time of year when they're competing and have
a chance to get there to the finals or win
a title one seed, and it's not as severe as
it was a few years ago, like it was. It
has been worse. There's no doubt it's been worse. When
they lost in the finals back in twenty and eleven,
twenty twelve, Scotty Brooks, Kevin Durant Company, Russell Westbrook hard

(06:16):
in the whole nine years. When they lost in the
finals that year, I.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Was like, oh, thank god, thank god.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
And then since then they've they've you know, they lost
to the conference finals in fifteen and sixteen, they've gone
to the Western co Actually the loss of the Western
Conference final, that's that's the closest they've been since. But
he always get a little nervous. This is what's bothersome.

(06:43):
And I guess this is what kind of the pettiness
in me that I just won't get over. Is the
great job that Presty did do that Carl mentioned he's
one hundred percent accurate, Yeah, he is. Twelve out of
seventeen years they've been to the end A playoffs, the
exceptions year one in Oklahoma City, they were twenty three

(07:05):
and fifty nine. That's when they fired PJ. They brought
in Scottie Brooks. PJ was just an absolute guinea. He
was just a test pigeon flying a test canarrea flying
into the damn cave to see if there was carblon
n oxide poison.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
That's what he was. Anyone would have had it, nobody wished.

Speaker 1 (07:22):
I mean John Wooden himself could have given Mike Krzyzewski
or Greg Popovich or find any great basketball coach. Ever,
didn't matter. They were set up to fail because that
was the year. That would have been Durant's second year,
that would have been Westbrook, Serge Ibaka's first year, and
it was the year before James Harden got there. Like
they were just rebuilding that thing. But the job job

(07:44):
Sam Presty has done is remarkable. I mean, they went
to the playoffs five straight years. After that, they went
to the playoffs ten eleven years after that, they missed
it for three straight years from twenty twenty twenty one
through twenty twenty two to twenty three. But then they
also got the number one pick some guy named chet
Holgren too right, And they also got a generational player

(08:05):
in SGA. They've done an incredible job. And that's what
really bothers me.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
That's what Like.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
They're anywhere else, there's such a fun team to run.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
If they were anywhere else, they'd be a fun team
to root for, they'd be a fun team to watch.
But they were stolen from us, and I find myself,
eighteen years later, not over it in any way, shape
or form.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I don't think anybody should be. Maybe it doesn't hurt
as bad.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Well story, Yeah, well that's what I want to know, Like,
are you The NBA playoffs to me are interesting when
these guys are in it, and as long as a're
in it.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Because of that, I can't I just I.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Cannot stand the thought of hearing second championship in franchise history,
especially when George Carl, Sean Camp, Gary Payton, debtless Shrimp,
et cetera. Came so damn close in ninety six and
and probably should have won it two years prior to
that when they got out to buy the afore mentioned Denver.

(09:06):
Now it gets in the first round. We all know
the eight one situation and the late Kimmy with tumble
on the floor of the Coliseum Sales Center Colisseum and
I believe it was the last NBA game in the
Coliseum before they renovated. I think holding the ball above
his head. Yeah, no, it's it's brutal. It's hard to watch.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
More so Andrews because he grew up here and just
you got here in No.

Speaker 2 (09:32):
Eight right, eight? Nine?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Hey, No nine, the beginning about nine and the Sonics
that just departed.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Yeah, they left the year before.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
So did you remember and I joke, we always joke
about young Andrews here. Yeah, do you remember them leaving?
Do you remember anything about that?

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I've always said, like, h So, the first time I
ever loved as a kid with the Mariners. I yeah, absolutely,
in checking from birth. But wink if you're lying. Second
team I ever loved was the Sonics. I've been to
more Sonics games as a fan than I have Seahawks games.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Wow, it's total.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Yeah, and that doesn't include going as a media member
all that stuff. But I yeah, I went to the
playoff series in four? Was it against the Spurs?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
I think that was.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, that was so much fun. Rayaland was my favorite player.
I still have a rail and jersey, like that's the
team I grew up with. The Rail and Richard Lewis,
Luke Gridower, guys kind of before that, Kevin Durantz, Brookie
year sort of thing. So the early two thousand Sonics
were awesome, like the tail end of Gary Payton's ten
year here as well. Yeah, so that that's kind of
the Sonics team I grew up. But then I definitely

(10:33):
remember them leaving. I didn't have a full grasp on
it though, if that's what you're.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Asking, Yeah, no, but you remember, yeah, I mean it's
it's I mean I was an infants or a year
or two old. I guess when the when the pilots left,
like I wouldn't have but but so I had no
recollection that, but I thought you might have a little recollection.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
I was eleven, so like as you, yeah, that's when
I was.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, I mean they won the title. Yeah, when I
was that age, Yeah, I did the Sonics, And I
remember watching as many games as I could back then,
Like mostly I was listened to Bob Blackburn on the
radio because in a lot a lot of games are
on TV. But I'm curious four nine four or five
to one on the still unrestricted free agent text line?

(11:14):
Four nine four or five to one? Do you get
the nervousness this time of the year? Do you stress
about it at all? As a sports fan? Like you
guys have been around me for a long time, there's
a lot of things in sports that really get me
stressed out. Like maybe I'll get pissed off for like
a couple hours after a bad couver loss, yep, and
then we move on. It's just I I love being

(11:34):
a sports fan, but I've kind of tempered some things
over the years. This one is tempered a little bit
compared to where it was, but it's still something I
think about. It's still something I watch and like them
losing Game one was awesome, like thinking, Okay, you're three
games away from being out and then we go on
another year. I think when we get a team back,

(11:56):
it won't matter as much.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Well they still so you mentioned like you can't. You
don't want to hear the word second franchise, a second
championship in franchise history. So that will that change when
the team comes back.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I think it'll I think when it does come back,
I think the way it should and will work, I believe,
and there's still some questions about it. Yeah, but I
think that from you know, nineteen sixty seven expansion year
was sixty seven sixty eight, from them through two thousand
and eight, those that that part of history would come
back to Seattle. Yeah, and Oklahoma City would pick up

(12:29):
in eight oh nine. It's hard because they're not a
true expansion franchise, right, they went to Oklahoma City with
pieces in place. They the last bit of business they
did here in Seattle two and a half weeks before
they left, not even.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
That a week before they left. A week before they left.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
The last thing that happened here was they had a draft,
and that was the Russell Westbrook Surge Ibacca Draft, where
I remember Percy Allen tell me how bad Russell Westbrook
would be and that was a bad draft pick purse.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
You were wrong, by the way, I remember that.

Speaker 3 (12:57):
He can think what you want about Russ, like he
has laws as a player, but he's been an awesome
NBA player for his entire career.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
Well, him and Durant carried him to the finals. Yes,
but I remember that all joking side person. But it's
sitting there for Tintal Center and we're watching.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
This like, damn Westbrook. Nobody knew who Baca was. Right,
he's a good player, really good players, the real player.
But that was the last bit of business they did.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, you know that was the last so they didn't
go there empty handed, right, it's not like the kracking team. Yeah,
it's not like the Cracking start Like the Cracking started
from scratch. Yes, the Vegas Knights started from scratch. This
is more Utah Mammoth.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
Oh yeah, Mammoth.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
The Utah Mammoth hockey team that got renamed today the
old Arizona cry They went to Utah with a lot
of really good young players. Yes, and I don't put
it in the same category because sorry Arizona, you guys
had a number of chances to keep them and it
just didn't work.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
They also just did don't have a ton of history, no, right,
But the Sonics do we had forty one years.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Yeah, yeah, I was when I moved out here, though,
even though I wasn't here when I didn't grow up
with them.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
I was working at YES in Bristol, Connecticut.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
We had Sean Camp and Gary Payton on every single
television show, every radio show. I was friends with Sonic's
fans who had moved from Seattle to Connecticut, and my
thing was, there's.

Speaker 6 (14:14):
No way that's ever going to happen.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
We all thought that, Jess, I know, we all thought that.

Speaker 4 (14:18):
To me had never even been to the city of Seattle,
working in network headquarters for ESPN, we all thought that.

Speaker 6 (14:27):
So it wasn't just this, There's no way this is
going to happen.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
From a local we're a fan level, nobody thought that
would happen. And then I moved out here months after
they moved, and I lived in Lower Queen Anne about
like and I got I watched businesses closed, I watched
all this. So it's not as though it was my

(14:50):
fanhood heart, but I saw the effect it had on
this ada and.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
It still has.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
I mean, like all those like you go up there,
I mean there's some things that are starting to come
back a little bit so nobody wants to do business
with this city.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Like that's the problem.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Like I a shout out to our by our guy
Justin and Gary at the at the halls, whether it
be Queen Anne, Moss Bay or the new Occidental one
opening up soon.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
I mean they opened up. They're opening the one in Occidental.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Good for them, whoever the folks are at Tom's good
for you, you know, opening that up, because very few
businesses want to do want to work. I mean I
talking to a guy that closed a place down close
to Kirina two years before they started breaking around the building.
We all knew it was going to happen, said, nobody
wants to do business in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
They just don't.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
And so that's why it's been slower to come back.
That's on you, Bruce Harrel. But that's that's why because
that area used to be the hub when you call
it Seattle Center. It was the center of our of
our community. It was the activities, everything was going on there.
And hopefully we'll come back. I mean, what they've done
at Climbing Pledge is remarkable. You know, if whether you're

(15:53):
a fan or not a fan of the Kraken, it's
fine there's forty one dates a year, actually, more like
forty five with the preseason. Now you've got another fifteen
to twenty with the PWHL. You've got storm games. And
I'll tell you that building is never ever quiet. They've
done an incredible job with concerts and venues and different
things up there. Hopefully Queen Ane will come back, like

(16:14):
Jess said, like, hopefully that'll come back.

Speaker 4 (16:16):
But you see little gross spurts. Yeah, it's like receiving
a garden.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
They're seeing the little things here.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
But meanwhile, I'm in my normal this time of the
year stress mode, and it's happened. This is what pisses
me off. This is what really pisses me off. It's
happened twelve of seventeen years. Like they're always in the playoffs, Yeah,
they're always there, and here they are again the number
one seed in the West. Lord help us, please, please please, Joker, please,

(16:46):
you and your crazy ass mafiosa brothers do something. Help
us out here. Take care of business, boys, take care
of business. Just take care of business. The fighting Kevin
Shockey nuggets, You guys better take care of business.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Damn it.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Four nine four to five one. You share those same thoughts.
We'll get to those. Love to get a talkback or
two as well. You know, the talk back line is
pretty simple, is very easy. Go to the iHeartRadio app,
make sure you're presetting ninety three point three KJRFM on it.
And then speaking of the red microphone just likes to
go through those and she loves to hear your voice.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Make me a bad scientist today.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Go do that, goyead Just get.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
Them in early, please so I have time to bleep.

Speaker 1 (17:21):
Greg Bell joins us talking Shaquil Griffin.

Speaker 7 (17:23):
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Speaker 1 (17:50):
Hi, We're back in the R and R Foundation Specialist Studios.
Welcome back, we are joined. Now, I'm my friend Greg
Bell to come, a news tribute and Seahawk Beat Rider
also obviously contributed here on ninety three point three KJFM.
You here fan and fellow soccer fan as well.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
You also.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Can hear him filling in on occasion on ninety three
point three KJRFM, including tomorrow from one to three perfects. Hi, Greg,
how are you?

Speaker 8 (18:21):
I'm well, I'm there and always be there when you
call it.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
A long time ago, I.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Learned that I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
I got some other business to take care of tomorrow,
so you'll be in first before I get to Seahawk conversation.
Big shout out to the Bell family, specifically mister Eric Bell,
who is now a graduate of Washington State University. I
know proud parents there last weekend for grads, So congrats Dad, thank.

Speaker 8 (18:47):
You, and you know, we finally got to hit some
spots I'd never been to in my journeys. To Pullman
Seas was incredible.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
To go Cal's over pizza. What'd you do?

Speaker 5 (18:58):
I like colsone, of course, damn right.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well done, good, good good, I was.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
It was tough for I didn't even need a dinner breakfast.

Speaker 1 (19:05):
No, yeah, you're done for You're done for a week.
You're done for a week in that regard, so you.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
Just crawl under a table for the rest of the day.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 8 (19:13):
And then I went to jessm in South Fork, Oh
perfect after graduation.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
Leit, I can't we've got in here? Is that's crazy?

Speaker 5 (19:20):
You got it.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, I was surprised, and we waited till after the
Business and the Communications schools graduates.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
Good call.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
And there was a line out Beasley Coliseum like Clay
Thompson had come home or something.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
It was all the.

Speaker 8 (19:34):
Way up down the hill and passed the student rec
Center just to get in for the Business and the
Communications guys.

Speaker 2 (19:39):
But it's uh, it's quite the it's quite the same.

Speaker 5 (19:43):
I want to say this too.

Speaker 8 (19:44):
I've been a couple of graduations my nephews in the
Ohio States.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
It's just like a cattle call.

Speaker 8 (19:49):
It's just everyone down onto the floor of the horseshoe
and just passing out one after another, tens of thousands
of diplomas at BESA Coliseum, Wshue. They put each individual
graduate of one on one face to the Beasley Causium
video board with the student's name, their degree, and their department.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes, and so they.

Speaker 8 (20:11):
Had like a five to ten seconds of in the sun.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Yes.

Speaker 8 (20:14):
And it was really cool and personal for a school
that large.

Speaker 2 (20:17):
I mentioned. We were talking with some friends the other day.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
It's now my kids high school to Homa High School
in Maple Valley is I think it's the third or
fourth largest school in the state.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
It's enormous.

Speaker 1 (20:28):
And they used to have their graduation at the White
River Amphitheater and it was basically the worst possible experience
you could ever have. Like it was it takes like
four hours to get out of there after the thing's done,
but the experience itself as four hours bad speed. I
mean everything about it was bad. The best thing was
is my son had the COVID graduation.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
That was easy.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Pass through the parking lot, walk across the field. It
a walk with the guys. You want to walk with
your buddies. Boom, thanks for coming pictures with everybody. You're
done this. But wazoo for as large as it is. Yeah,
they do a great job in the little of the
flashing of the kids up there.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
So I'm glad you got experience that we did that
with my daughter.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
It's a blast.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
And and congratulations to young mister Bell and and best
of luck for him as well. My son graduates in
a couple of weeks and thankful. And by the way,
Eric graduating with honors. I should mention and yeah, let's go.

Speaker 5 (21:16):
I had to tell my son what meant.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Yeah, come on, man, takes some one somewhere.

Speaker 1 (21:21):
Yeah, I don't know if the young I don't know
if the young faness will have all I think he
might be. He'll be pretty close to honors. If he
doesn't have him, I'm not sure. If I asked him,
he wouldn't know, nor would he care.

Speaker 8 (21:29):
But you know, the being a full time varsity student
athlete at college and getting honors incredibly harmful. Yeah it is,
and knows and you know, and then it's not easy, and.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
Yeah, I was well, the only class, the only class
he had a hard time with was freshman year, an
English composition class, and I know somebody helped him get
through that with some some tutoring online. I might be
talking to that guy right now. The esteem journalists, and
so hey, let's get to some Seahawk conversation. I know

(22:05):
you were graduation last week, so we want to talk
about that the mini camps or the rookie camp as much,
but I do want to talk about the news. It's
kind of making its way around and I don't know
if you've heard anything new yet or not. It seems
like it makes sense, does it not, to bring Shaquille
Griffin back.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
It does, And they've been talking about this for weeks now,
since last month, actually early last month after the draft.
The Griffin, they loved him, of course when they drafted him,
and they gave him a starting spot, but he fits
the mold of quite a few of the draft picks
for John Schnewder.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
I know you've talked about it on your show too.

Speaker 8 (22:38):
And Schneider has a pretty high threshold for guys to
re sign off their rookie deals, especially offensive lineman, but
pretty much any guy. I mean, you have to be
leading a boom esque to get a second deal after
your rookie deal. And Shaquille Griffin was just too expensive
once he got the free agency. So once the Seahawks

(22:59):
decide I did what is it now three four years
ago twenty twenty one that they weren't they were going
to let him go to free agency, then you knew
he was gonna go. And then Jacksonville gives him a
forty million dollar three year deal. He only spends a
year or so there, two years there. Minnesota gives him
a five million dollar contract.

Speaker 5 (23:17):
For one year.

Speaker 8 (23:19):
A lot of people around Minneapolis Saint Paul think that
he's a safety.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
Plan for the Vikings to resign and bring back.

Speaker 8 (23:25):
So some of this news coming out as of course
his agent trying to leverage the Vikings to say, hey,
wait a minute, see I don't We'll bring him back
and you're gonna have to pony him Minnesota if I'm
gonna keep him. As far as the fit, Mike McDonald
wants to overload every position on defense, including the secondary,
with veterans, with guys who can play, who can fit

(23:47):
the schemes that he wants to do, and have versatility,
and Griffin has all that. You could say at first glance, well,
it doesn't seem like a need. You just drafted a
safety number two in the draft him and worry. McDonald
has said that he's already going to start a nickel
dying to begin, which would seemed to being that Devin
Witherspoon is going to play a lot more outside than
he has in the past. But corners still positioned in need.

(24:09):
We thought they were going to draft one all of
a sudden, Greek Wollan's in the final year of his contract.
Woolan is not someone that McDonald drafted, doesn't have a
huge connection with. He has struggled at times to the
point of being benched in each of the last two seasons.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
We've talked about his tackling issues.

Speaker 8 (24:27):
There's no guarantee week Wolan will not be different than
Shaquille Griffin and leave after his rookie deal hands. So
they have to think of now and next year. I'm
not sure if this would be a two year deal
with Griffin. But I wouldn't just think, well, they've got Griffin.
I mean, they've got Wooln and Witherspoon, so they don't
need corners. That's not the way they think at all.
Josh Jobes coming back, but he wants guys that can

(24:52):
a multitude of guys in similar positions so that he
can mix and match and move around and be matchups
and be a real amva defense.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
What what?

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
And I think everything you're saying is one hundred percent
what I would agree with the You know that, and
they need you need depth. You know, we need good depth.
You know, I'll due respect to me, am I a Pritchett.
That's not good depth, right, Like that's that's you need
better than that.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And you know we saw them go through a number
of guys last season. You got guys banged up and injured.
I wonder about Reek Wollen, and you know, what do
you hear about him?

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And what m I mean?

Speaker 1 (25:27):
We know McDonald benched him briefly last year and you know,
trying to I think mostly trying to light a fire
right get him going again. We've seen how great he
can be. I don't know what the regression is. I
don't know what you hear, but I still I hope
he gets back to where he was. To resigned him
because they're a better football team with a good reward.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
They are.

Speaker 8 (25:46):
Let's not forget Pete Carroll benched him too finally before
Carol left. The physicality piece and teams targeting him on
outside runs and on short catch and runs yards after
to catch passes is big concern. McDonald wants guys who
can be thutters and tacklers as well as cover guys,
and that's the question with Rik Wollen. Of course, he's slight,

(26:09):
he's tall, he's slender, long and rangy.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
It's a converted wide receiver.

Speaker 8 (26:16):
People forget he was a wide receiver until halfway through
his college career, and so it's not like this is
a seasoned veteran corner who's had his craft hon for
and cemented for years and years, he still learned how
to play the position at the highest level in the sport,
and there's growing pains with that. Most of them are
in run support and in tackling after the catch, so

(26:41):
that's the biggest thing. Can he prove to be more
of a thumper.

Speaker 9 (26:44):
He doesn't have a thumper's body, he doesn't have a
thumper's mentality, but they need. McDonald wants those type of
guys that corner as much as he wants cover guys,
and of course he was drafted willing to be a
cover guy along fit the Pete Carroll corner profile.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Cover guy Greg Bell with me for a couple more moments.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
I know you'll discuss a lot of these things more
in depth tomorrow, but I'll wrap it up with just
this one. What you know now that the draft is
coming gone, the first wave, big wave of free agency
has come and gone. June first is always a big
day to see if guys get released. Got to wonder
if Noah fen is going to be on that list.
I guess they could do even before if they wanted to.

(27:22):
But when you look at the roster after it's all
said and done, depth at corners one thing maybe they
address that with Shaquille Griffin. What are the other needs
besides I'm assuming they think that they've got the guys
in house now with the offensive line, whether it be
Grey's abel or a combination of what they've had last
year with some of the other guys like Haynes or

(27:43):
La Maya, Sundale, etc. What do you think the biggest
concerns would be roster wise and personnel wise with a
couple months before training.

Speaker 8 (27:51):
Camp, well, experience on the offensive line, they don't have
that Dwayne Brown or.

Speaker 9 (27:56):
Even Lake and Tomlinson type. They've let most of their
veterans go and that's because of an effectiveness. But so
now they have potentially starting They have two first round
picks and two third round picks within the last four
years on their offensive line, and you could have a
rookie starting at left guard next to a second year
undrafted rookie free agent if Jalenson Doe wins that job,

(28:17):
or even if over with Timmy wins that job, he's
in his third season and only second one of plan.
They're very young across the offensive line. I would expect
summer cuts, training camp cuts, salary cap cuts during the summer.
The Seahawks to sign a veteran offensive lineman. They always
add depth and need depth an interior defensive line with veterans.

(28:38):
Think of all the veteran defensive interior linemen tackles that
they've signed in training camp cuts that end up training camps,
that'd expect one there. And running back is still a position.
I know they drafted it and they feel like they
have enough after the draft, But all of a sudden,
you lead back is.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Now entering the final year of his deal with walker.

Speaker 9 (29:00):
Jack sharbon A really proven to be in every down
running back that could take that role.

Speaker 5 (29:04):
I don't think so.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
It wouldn't kill him to have a veteran running back
to come in who can both pass protect be a
third down back perhaps, but they're thinner than it looks.
And unless the rookie comes up and shows that he
can be like he was at Oregon State cornerback though
the next one because they didn't draft one.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
My friend great stuff as always read him in the
Tacoma News Tribune and in the meantime to tune in
tomorrow one o'clock he'll be sitting in for me and
I do appreciate that. Tomorrow again, congratulations to young mister
Bell and we'll talk soon.

Speaker 5 (29:36):
Thanks buddy, appreciate it. Go coo. There you go.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
That's our guy, Greg Bell joining us Skinhill film with
for me tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
It's interesting he brings up the offensive line because I
think they probably feel like they're going to be okay
in house, but the veteran part of it, I hadn't
thought about that.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
He's right.

Speaker 1 (29:51):
I mean, Charles Cross is a veteran for you right now.

Speaker 6 (29:53):
On that offensive line of crazy. He just feels brand.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Going into his fourth year.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, he's kind of your veteran guy, right, that's you know. Yeah,
So they're gonna they'll they'll I can see and cut
down days. June first becomes a big deal. I still
wonder if Noah Fan is gonna be on this team.
I kind of think not. Uh, the cap savings is massive,
but we'll see. Anyway, there good stuff from Gat. We'll
do a quick daily power play and the dumbest thing
you've ever heard coming up next.

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Speaker 2 (30:48):
Brent Severn. Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
One of the things we'll address with him, by the way,
is the conversation that you Anderson Hurst, you and the
Morning Show had you trade Matty beneers ooh to try
to upgrade the rest of your roster.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's an option. I didn't say that.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Those words did not come out of my mouth, but
I will have that discussion with one Brent Severn coming
up at two o'clock today. Also talking NHL playoffs with him.
That's coming up in just a short amount of time.
Other news outside of the scores last night. We all
told you everyone's happy because Edmonton beat the Vegas Golden
Nights last night, except for you, Carolina over Washington and
Alexander Ovechkin. More on Novechkin in a minute. The Russian

(31:33):
Superstar two games night, Panthers Maple League, Stars and Jets.
Those are Game two in Panthers leaves they lead, that
won nothing, and game one of round two Stars and Jetsgan.
We'll talk more about that in a second. Utah Mammoth
the Utah Mammoth. That's the new name of the team

(31:54):
in Utah.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Yes, no, thumbs up, thumbs down.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
So I don't hate it. But my question to you is,
we actually talked about this in the Morning show. What
are your thoughts on the non plural.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, that's pretty interesting too, because they have now too
in that market.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, jazz Jazz, So that was one of like the
first ones in the major sports which.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
And they inherited that from New Orleans. Right, I'm fine
with it. I mean cracking crack in exactly. Yeah right, Yeah,
I mean I wasn't loving the cracking initially, but now
I am.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
It's fine, come around to it.

Speaker 1 (32:24):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I like the stuff we can
do with it with an noddic theme especial. So yeah, right,
the mans is interesting. I like it better than yetti.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah too, I definitely do. Their logo is pretty damn
cool too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:38):
It's kind of a knockoff though, if you look at it,
it's kind of a knockoff of.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
What they did in.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Where is it Who posted something today? The Portland Winterhawks
and the Everett Silver Tips have kind of similar logos,
so I don't know they have the same artists do
it or something. It was not good for them, you
know what. Just the bigger issue is that they're a
good young team and they're in the Western Conference, and
that's why.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
You don't like him. Doesn't matter about the name. Okay,
let's do let's hit it.

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hear today, A real no brainer.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
All right, Now, we'll see how this goes. I'm trying
to keep it non political, because I think it is. Yes,
if you're you know, unless you're only listening to sports radio,
and if you are, hopefully you're only listening to us,
and thankfully we appreciate you. I think we all know
President Trump this week meet this week, met with Canadian

(33:54):
Prime Minister Mark Carney at the White House. A lot
of different things going on, tariffs, fifty first state and
all that.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
This has nothing to do with that.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
No, it has everything to do with complete and utter
ignorance and not like this is this should be common sense.
Here is the president's talking about one of the well
the relationship with Canada, but more importantly, one of the
greatest players in the history of the National Hockey League.

Speaker 10 (34:22):
I love Canada a lot of I have a lot
of respect for the Canadians, Wayne Gretzky. I mean, how
good the great one. You happen to have a very
very good hockey player right here on the Capitals who
I have a lot of is he is a big
tough cookie too. It just broke the record, and he's
a great guy. And you know, we had the we

(34:42):
had the team here and I got to know a
lot of the players. But now Canada is a very
special place.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
So big tough guy player right here, Alexandro Vetchkin.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Just just broke the all time goal scoring record.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Who he basically inferred was Canadian.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
Yes, that's the same Alexander Ovechkin who is buddies with
his buddy Putin and let me help help you again.
Alexander Ovechkin is Russian and Russian hockey player, not Canadian.
Hasn't even played in Canada with a team. He's been
with the Caps since day one. He has no ties

(35:21):
to Canada, but apparently he does. I guess he's getting
lumped in with Canada. Sure, sure, why not?

Speaker 2 (35:27):
Why not? I will throw him in there.

Speaker 6 (35:29):
Don't you know that all hockey players are Canadian?

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Apparently even the Russians then hang out with Putin. That's like, like,
if for no other reason he should know that relationship.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Take aside the fact that, like he's a hockey superstar
from Russia.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
From Russia, oh goodness. In fact, I believe would have
been born into what was then as old as he
is thirty nine, right, yes, I think that was. I
think we still had the Soviet Union back then. Yes,
so you can take either one Soviet Union or what
now is Russia.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yes, not Canada.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Neither one of those would be technically wrong.

Speaker 1 (36:11):
Was not born in Saskatchewan, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Newfoundland. Rather,
he has not born in any of those places. Not
born in white Horse, Yukon, Alexandrovitchkin, although you can see
Russia from there, but no, not born there. Not born
in Prince George where you can throw a stone to Russia.

(36:31):
No no, no, oh God, leader of the free world.
All right, that's good, We're good. I'll wait for the
responses at four nine four or five to one. Let's
get to Brett Severn talking all things Canadian, Russian, Swedish,
Switzerland doesn't.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
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know what happened in that game yesterday?

Speaker 2 (37:14):
By the chat, No, I don't. They won.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
They scored twice in the final three minutes. Get the
win over the Vegas Golden Knights. So even with the
salary cap issues that couldn't save him yesterday, Edmonton gets
a win.

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came at a heavy price. Let's talk more NHL playoffs.
It's been a while. It's been a long time. Brent Severn.

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Speaker 10 (38:00):
Are all right?

Speaker 1 (38:05):
Welcome back in Sports Radio ninety three point three KJR FM.
It's been way too long. We missed this a couple
of years ago. We had a ton of fun with
our guy, Brent Severn from the Dallas Stars broadcasting a
team joining us the former Seattle Breaker. Huh so you
did what you did? Get one at your Thunderbirds, right?

Speaker 5 (38:24):
Were you for them?

Speaker 10 (38:25):
So yeah, I'm so old that. Yeah, that's that's where
I blend in with this crew.

Speaker 1 (38:28):
God, there's people sitting there going thunderbrit Breakers. What's the Breakers?
That was the same franchise, just renamed the Thunderbirds. But
that was one or two years ago. NHL former NHL
are and my partner on the Paralympics in two thousand
and two, let's go where the Utah Mammoth were announced today,
my friend Brent separate jointes and talk Little Stanley Cup Playoffs,

(38:48):
Stars and Jet Star tonight. How are you, my friend?

Speaker 5 (38:51):
We missed you.

Speaker 10 (38:52):
I know it's been a while. It's great and too
bad the Kraken and the Stars aren't going at it.
But you guys had a little tough year and that
could be as be expected. You know, it's not easy, right.
I think Seattle fans are not noting now that it's
not easy to win games in the in the NHL, right.
You have to have good teams and they have to
be consistent. Any hiccup, any small disarray and something, and

(39:14):
it's tough. The consistency is key. Whether you're a player,
whether you're a team or you're a fan, your team
has to be consistent. If not, you're gonna have the
type of year that the Kraken had this season.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, you know, and they they're gonna go just real quick,
I want to quick fop from you from thirty thousand feet.
They're gonna go through and pick up their third coach
in three years. David Heckstall fired after last season. Dan
biles Will won and done and they're gonna get another guy.
You know, there's some here that are saying, oh, you
know you can't do that. It's but you just talked
about consistency. I would argue on the other side that, honestly,

(39:46):
if if you're looking at this from a standpoint of, hey,
you want to be better, like, there's no complacency and
the NHL is a league you've you've known it, you
played it, and you've covered it. The NHL doesn't wait
around like they I do. Actually, it's I kind of
applaud that if it's not working, fix it, and that's
what they're trying to do.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
Yeah, they don't mess around with coaches do It's when
I was when I was nineteen years old, before I
even started my NHL career, I wrote down everything that
I wanted to do after hockey. This kind of guy
I am. I plan I'm always planning stuff. And then
I looked at coaching and you look how much they
move and the type of lifestyle they lead. It's a
tough gig. Man that is a very tough gig, and

(40:25):
it's result orientated. You got to make sure you're winning,
and if you're not, they move you along and I
think ultimately though, ultimately it comes down to the communication
that your general manager and your coach has with your
team and all that. So I think there's a lot
to the relationship that's built with that is with anything
with bosses where you work, where I work. If you

(40:46):
don't have that relationship, if you mess up even a
little bit, they send you on your way. But if
you do have a relationship, that's a little bit tighter,
a little bit, a little bit easier, right, a little
bit easier to stick around. So, yes, maybe it wasn't
the year that you guys wanted, but obviously there was
some sort of disconnect I think with their general manager
and your team and your coach. So what do they do?

(41:08):
They move on and they try again. So that's just
the way it works. Because we have Pete Deboor here
now in Dallas and men. I tell you, I sat
down with their assistant coach and we went through how
they break down stuff and the process they have for
the players. It's pretty crazy. I never thought coaches in
my day. I know they had some influence on how

(41:29):
you played and that to organize us, but I doubt
it was at the level that Pete de Boor and
his coaching staff have here. It's amazing because right from
day one of training camp, from the very first meeting
that de Boor had with his team, you could feel
a difference in the way they played. You saw it
in practice. You saw a difference in the way they talk,

(41:51):
the lingo, the different verbiage they used, everything was different.
So a coach comes in and you can really a
team that has good players, but make them into a
good team. And you just felt that when he came
into the system. So yeah, I think in the NHL now,
with the analytics and the process they have, it is

(42:12):
a huge group of coaches that they have, whether it's
analytic guys, whether it's sport performance, nutrition, everything, they got
this thing dialed in. So the coaches are real important.
And if your head coach isn't dialed in and not
communicating with your general manager properly, there's probably going to
be an issue.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Brent Severn joining us from Dallas. We'll get to the
Jets and Stars in a second. You open up this
why I like talking to you because now I'm going
in a different direction for a second. But you know
you mentioned Pete Debor, and you know one of the
top coaches in the NHL in Seattle looking for again,
it's third coach in three years. I don't know this,
but when I hear Ron Francis, when I sit down
with Ron Francis, and he's telling me that, you know,
and this wasn't just a one time thing. At the

(42:54):
end when they fired Bilesmay, he had said it a
couple of times to us as well on our TV broadcast,
like hey, I don't like our struck. I don't like
and just little things like that. Yeah, man, you know
Bilesman had great success fifteen twenty years ago. Right, I'm
wondering if today's NHL coach as you just talked about Duport.
Let me just take it this way for Seattle or
other teams looking to hire a guy Vancouver with the

(43:16):
hire many Mahultra who's had one year of experience in
the AHL, probably not right, like bump them up from Abbotsford.
Today's coach in the NHL is a different guy than
when you were coaching. In other words, you better at
least get a guy that's a long time assistant on
today's NHL bench, right, or a guy that understands because
the analytics and all that and people get freaked out
with analytics. I've learned a lot more about it this season.

(43:37):
There is a use for that stuff. You never understand
all of the tools of the trade, right.

Speaker 10 (43:42):
But I think ultimately, here's what it boils down to.
And Ili laughed because I call it babysitting at the
highest level. It really is. When you're a coach, you
are babysitting at the highest level. Think you've got twenty
corporations that you're dealing with, and it's how you manipulate
those guys to get the most out of them. The
things that we talked about, the analytics, the on ice

(44:04):
all that, Yes, that's very important, but you better have
your room. You have to have your room. And because
the Dallas Stars had Joe Pavelski who is tied to
Pete de Boor, and he was the conduit between what
Debor's new system is coming in and saying. And then
Pavelski was the guy talking to the team. He says, guys,
this works. You have to listen to them. It's going

(44:27):
to be different, it's going to be unique. But if
you follow along what he is selling, then you're going
to be a good team. And that was a big
part of the transition of this team. And now with
Pavelski out he's retired, the team believes in Dubor. He's
got the team. He's got his assistant coaches just pumping
out stuff. They talk about Ellen Nazerdin, their assistant coach

(44:47):
on the Penley Kill, which is outstanding. And then all
these players believe what those coaches are selling, so they're
more apt to change. And even for our players that
are sitting out, he has a way of talking to
them and letting them know that there's still a big
part of this team. You've got to be ready, and
they are coming and showing up to practice and doing
what they want, and when they're putting the lineup, they're

(45:08):
ready to go. So yeah, it is coaching, yes, but
it's also babysitting at the highest level and you have
to be real good at it. The Boor is the
next lawyer, so he's got the talk and he knows
how to work with these guys.

Speaker 5 (45:20):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
Brent Severn Jonas, how is it in Dallas these days?
The Mavericks basically piss off their entire fan base with
the trade and we're out at early in the NBA,
So that's that's going on there. You guys kind of
have some of course, today Pickings gets traded to the Cowboys.
Cowboys are king, But how is the city embracing it?
And it's not like this is the first time that
the Stars want to Stanley Cup in the past, so
but how is the city taking this playoff run?

Speaker 10 (45:43):
Yeah, obviously more excitement, you know, And I was actually
I actually got to go on a radio station before
you guys, and with the big trades that are trade
is happening here in Dallas, they found time to squeeze
me in. So that says a lot of where hockey
is right. But still it's not it's not football. It's
not small. It's a lower tiered sport here. But we
have an unbelievable group of fans, a pretty big group

(46:06):
of fans that we can draw from. But it's a
small compared to the football obviously. But it's cool. Everybody's excited.
The rink is as loud that Game seven as you
could imagine. It's been fired up, especially the way it
unfolded with rant and coming in getting the four points
in the third period, Stars behind and all this basically
being written off. They came back and they won that thing,

(46:27):
and man, that lid was going to blow off the
American Airline Center. So people are excited. People watch it
more so US as hockey people were trying to ride
the wave a little bit. As you mentioned the Mavericks
taking a little bit of hit with the Shenanigans they
pulled this year as well.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
How this is an interesting matchup. The Jets, number one
team in the NHL, in the in the during the
regular season President's Trophy winning team, but now they're playing
with more than likely their top forward out and their
top defenseman out. Does that sound familiar?

Speaker 10 (46:56):
Yes it does, Yes, it does.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
It does.

Speaker 10 (46:59):
It's the same sort of thing. And also I'm just
gonna addub on top of that before we get into
talking about those players that you want to get into.
One of the things one of the advantages that the
Stars have in this series, I think is when you
listen to their team and their coaching staff and their
players they talk, they say this was the heaviest series
that they have ever been involved with with the Saint

(47:21):
Louis Blues, which means battling, fighting for position, no space
out there, hits relentless for checking the physicality they say
this is one of the toughest series that they've ever
ever gone through, and Eelers is a fast forward for
the Winnipeg Jets. He said he was so gassed at

(47:42):
the end of that overtime he didn't know how he
was going to go any further. So when you look
at six hundred and twenty three hits as the stat
I got for you, both teams throwing six hundred and
twenty three hits. Now, when you compare that to the
Stars in the Avalanche, they had one hundred and thirty
one fewer hits with four hundred and ninety two, so

(48:02):
the volume is quite a bit. One hundred and thirty one.
You say, oh, it doesn't matter. That's eight or nine
hits per game, right that they have and they're hitting
to hurt. So there's different elements that that we're down
a team. So I'm looking at this going this might
be a more team that's taking a little bit more
abuse than the Stars have in their series against the Avalanche,

(48:22):
even though it went seven games as well, it was
pretty hard fought. It wasn't anything like the Blues going
against the Jets and those two bigger teams fighting for
each other or fighting against each other.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
What's what's the hell status oft of Haystrobinson and Robs.

Speaker 10 (48:40):
Yeah, so two days ago we watched practice and they
they went through the full compliment of practice. I think
they believe they still had their jerseys that said they
were non contact players. But after that practice two days ago,
they're battling in the corner. Coaching staff had little plays
out of the corner. They're bumping, they're working, throwing pucks
back in and really trying to get that And coach

(49:02):
Debora has always said to us, once we start to
involve contact in their practice, they are getting very close
to being able to play, and they were yesterday practice
unfolds Robertson. He's in full he's in a full lying
situation where merro Haysken and he was sitting out on
specific things, didn't have a d partner if you will,

(49:23):
and you never know, it could be gamesmanship, right, So
for Robertson, it looks like he's going to be in
Just judging by that total, you know, just totally guessing
on my part, but that's what I feel is going
to happen for tonight's game, that he'll be there. We'll
see with Morning skate who they run. But it looks
like he'll be in Mero, maybe not in just yet.

Speaker 1 (49:44):
Who has the advantage in goal? The Vesida Trophy winner
is playing for Winnipeg, but that's a different guy. Regular
season Connor Hallibuck is a different player than playoff Connor
Hallibuck and Jake Cotting are just a big time goaltender.
I would say Dallas as the advantage.

Speaker 10 (49:58):
Yeah, if you just look at the series before, right,
that's all you can do. Look is what the predictable
behavior was before moving into this series. Yeah, he hasn't
been what he has said and even said wasn't up
to his standards, right, But will that win in Game seven?
Will that, you know, help his perspective and get him
to a level where he can be a little bit

(50:19):
more confident. Because he's not confident, he's not doing the
things that you have to do, not making key saves,
letting some fluffy ones in. And when you look at
the goaltenders that I played with, Eddie Belfort, Stanley Cup winner,
like as tight mentally as you could imagine, focus, mean, nasty,
don't mess with me. Was outstanding when we won the

(50:40):
Cup here in ninety nine. I played with Patrick Waugh
who won several Stanley Cups. Right, you know what his
attitude is. He takes no prisoner, he's mean, he's confident.
So does Hellibuck have that right now? No he does not.
So what's going to happen when the series gets moving?
Stars start to funnel pucks? You know that the stars
are going to say, shoot from everywhere, get the pucks

(51:01):
to the word the net. And one thing for you
guys to watch in your fans is see if they
score above the glove. When I was watching some of
the goals against Hullibuck that Oliver is left glove shot.
They're always shooting there and they've seemed to score quite
a bit at least in the last series. So it's
something that I'm going to pay attention to. But with Ottinger,
we talked to him yesterday, just easy going man. He

(51:22):
is just having fun. He's showing us what he does
for his eye movement and the vision test that he
does and he's sitting talking to us like it's like
it's just another day. So it's I think it's two
different mentalities going into this game. And I give the
edge to Ottinger. But with that said, there was a
caveat Hellabuck. Still I believe at his best is the

(51:43):
better goaltender. He may be the best in the league.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
If healthy Brent Brent never joining us, if healthier, these
are two best teams in the Western Conference, if not
the NHL.

Speaker 10 (51:51):
Ah, yes, yeah, I love Vegas. I do love Vegas
and how heavy they are and what they do too
that they scare me. That's I would rather see Edmonton
in the next round. But they you know, you would
think that this is a team that could potentially go
on to win it all. You know, I'm biased in it,
but for me, during the season, Winnipeg was the most
difficult team that the Stars face. They shut down the Stars.

(52:12):
They were able to demand and control the physical play.
There was a lot of things, and Hellibuck was good.
There were so many areas of the game that the
Jets dominated the Stars, and that that's worrisome. But again
it's a different times. Stars last series were much better
in a lot areas, their games getting stronger, just getting better.

(52:34):
There's always that, And of course we get Robertson back
and Miro in this series.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
I think at some point, yeah, and Everton getting a
win in Vegas last night, obviously that was huge. That
was huge for the Oilers. Somehow, speaking of former Thunderbergs,
somehow Calvin Pickards keeps winning games for the for the Oilers.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Right.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Maybe he's the shortest goalie in the league right now
in the playoffs, and maybe the least athletic. I love picks,
but man, he's getting it done. Just stop the puck, right, yeah.

Speaker 10 (52:59):
And the one goal that went over underneath his right
pad because he didn't get it down fast enough. Little
things like that can't happen, you know, so they have
to watch. But he comes away with the win, right,
He makes enough saves to get the win.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Just keep back on final thing for our morning show today,
had they were having a conversation and I I'm hesitant
to bring this up because we went back and forth
a couple of years ago, Wyatt Johnston and Maddy Benier's
same draft and both called a cup clout. You know candidates.
One guy won it, our guy in Seattle, You guy,
I didn't. But they were having a debate.

Speaker 10 (53:31):
Hard stopped there. What are you just rubbing that in?

Speaker 1 (53:34):
No?

Speaker 5 (53:34):
Can I ask you?

Speaker 10 (53:35):
Where is he?

Speaker 5 (53:36):
Now?

Speaker 10 (53:36):
Where's your guy.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Now, what's playing.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
He's playing for Team USA at the World Championships.

Speaker 10 (53:40):
Right, exactly, He's not in the Stanley Cup final, but
please go ahead.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Exactly would you look at trading him? Would you look
at trading him? If you're Ron Francis, that was a conversation.

Speaker 10 (53:49):
My god, why what?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
Really?

Speaker 5 (53:51):
Well?

Speaker 1 (53:51):
I mean, they need help on the wing. They've got
right and Stevenson, Stevens is not going anywhere that contract.
Down the middle. They've got a young kid, Berkeley Cat
and coming up. I just, I mean, to make a
team better. You got it. You guys just did it
with Rattman, right, like you got rid of stan Covin.
Like you have to give something up to get something back.
What would you do that? Would you even entertain that
possibility with Matty Benier's.

Speaker 10 (54:12):
And you guys know him better than I do, But
my god, a young player like that with that kind
of potential, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (54:19):
And it's funny.

Speaker 10 (54:19):
I was listening to Winnipeg Jets radio and they were
talking about how the Jets are patient with their guys.
They're very good at drafting their guys, making sure they're
putting them in the right spot to succeed, making sure
they're patient with them so they do have the time
to unfold it. And they're talking about Proffetti, right, He's

(54:41):
a guy that you know, was the guy that scored
the game winning or the game time goal in the
slot there, and he's just had a great series last year.
He was a healthy scratch last year. You know, they
really were on him to be better. He went through
the summer, came back much better this year and now
it's just it's through the roof the way he's playing.
So I think a lot of and I think it

(55:01):
comes down to you know his personality and you know
how he is, does he work? Is he a team guy?
I think you have to look at that now with
stan Covid is the guy you're talking about, we have
to trade, right, Yes, he was a guy that has
high potential and he's kind of the same lines you
can score, but he wasn't scoring. You can just tell
he was snake bitting. So out of anybody in the

(55:22):
lineup that you could trade to get ratting in, like
look at what we got with rattan In, I don't
think you're gonna get a player like that, and we
quite honestly no, No, that was a unique opportunity where
you could all I know there was you know, they're
not going to sell the farm to get rattin in,
but to move a guy like stan Covid for a
guy that you're gonna pay eleven million dollars for the
next seven years. That is a moose. That is his nickname, right,

(55:44):
the moose. And he is good man, he is unbelievable,
He's got experience, great team guy, great person. You have
to do it. So if something like that comes up
for your team, yeah, maybe that's a guy you're gonna move.
We're gonna have to move. But also you got to
have patience with these kids. It takes time to really
figure out this league. And if he's a great guy,
he works hard and you see his game improving or

(56:05):
he can improve, he's got a higher potential. Yes, we
moved Vlonichushkin. If you remember now he went to Colorado.
But every goes, oh, how could you guys move? Bealan Chushkin,
who's this first round or up and coming great Russian?
But I trained him, I worked with him, and he
was a tough kid to get a hold of. They
tried everything for five years to get him figured out.

(56:27):
Couldn't do it. They sent him. He's finally said enough
of this kid because of the crap that he was pulling.
Sent him back to the KHL in Russia. That's where
he got his head on straight. He was like, Okay,
I can't just f around. I have to really apply myself.
He did that when he went back to Colorado and
he's the player that he has. But had he never
gone back to the KHL. Remember with the Stars he

(56:47):
had zero goals and zero penalty minutes in a year.
What in the wide wide world of sports is that?
So people don't remember that?

Speaker 1 (56:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (56:55):
Yeah, with your guy, you just don't know, you would
know what kind of kid he is.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Yeah, you got better. Coppocco got here, he got a
lot better. And that line guy, I wouldn't, I think,
And you know what, you know as well as anybody.
I mean, when you're set down the middle, that's where
you start. And they've got they've got three center iceman
or if you want to include the kids, it's going
to be here next year from Spokane. I mean they are,
they're set down the middle. That's a good place to start.
You don't want to take away from that you need

(57:20):
to add on the wing. Their defense is fine, Joey
seems to be the number one goalie. That's fine. They
just got to get some scoring on the wing and
frankly probably upgrading coach, which they're going to do as well.

Speaker 10 (57:29):
Yeah, you don't come up with many good points, but
you really made a good one there.

Speaker 12 (57:33):
It's rare clip that clip that No, but you're so
rank because Jim Noll when he first came in with
the Stars, that was his goal was to make sure
the middle is taken care of.

Speaker 10 (57:45):
And if you look at all the players that we have,
they started as centerment and now we can move because
you know, centerment is the toughest position I think forwards
and then from there you can move wherever you want.

Speaker 4 (57:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
Great stuff, Well, I probably I'm rooting for for Dallas
in a sense. I love Kevin channel day off. He
was with me in Utah, good friend of mine in
Winnipeg's GM. But this is kind of a no lose
situation because the more of the Stars win. Jess says,
can we get brent On, can we get sex savy On?

Speaker 10 (58:10):
Ill, let's go tonight.

Speaker 1 (58:11):
I don't know. I'm not sure if I want to
do that or not, but you know what, it turned
out pretty good.

Speaker 10 (58:15):
It turned out wow, ending with I love it.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
We can get good time. Hey, how fun tonight and
we'll check it back in the series goes on because
I think this is going to go at least six
or seven when.

Speaker 10 (58:26):
It's all for sure, no question. Thanks for having me, Hey.

Speaker 1 (58:29):
Brent S Evan joining us. Well, take a quick break,
come back with more. Nine three point three k FM.

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Speaker 1 (58:57):
Alright, let's get back to some text four nine four
five one. That is the unnamed unrestricted free agent text
line four nine four five one.

Speaker 4 (59:12):
All right, we have a couple of people who are
absolutely loving Sevy, so we are going to have to
bring him back.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I know you love thrilled about that. Great Svy is
one of my favorite people in the world.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
So all right, let's see uh four nine four five one.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Here we go.

Speaker 1 (59:39):
H Don James, what about you were talking about some
of the most beloved coaches here.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Yeah, it's a cool conversation.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
Yeah, I know you hate it, Ian, but it's true.

Speaker 1 (59:48):
I'm just I want to think of beloved. I think
of like likable, like I think success winning when when
it makes you likable that yeah. Uh, then we chase
Carl out because we couldn't win the champ and Chip.
Yeah they did, and that was wrong. It was messed
up a lot of things. There was a lot of
things that started going wrong with that organization after ninety
six and then it culminated.

Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Twelve years later.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Okay, Carl's the only guy that could get what he
got from Gary and Seawan one hundred percent. Like the
one thing that he was able to do because he
was so volatile George Carl as a coach is and
he had no problem getting in guys faces, is it.
Those are two guys, especially GP that you had to
get in their face a little bit, right, You had
to be a hard ass with them, and you had

(01:00:32):
to challenge those guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
There was no way around it. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It's it's just a crime that team didn't win a title. Yeah,
they're unlucky because they had that time, as did a
Utah team that was great. Portland a couple of years
prior to that, the Drexler teams YEP with Drexler and
Jerome with Robinson, those guys, Darry Porter, they were I mean,

(01:01:00):
there was some teams that were just damn loaded, and
I know they won, but Houston too, and.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Houston, well, Houston got it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Houston got themselves lucky there because they they squeezed a
couple in there when Mike was doing whatever Mike was doing,
hanging out the casino, golf and doing whatever he was doing,
when they told him to kind of walk away for
a while. Okay, four nine four five one, I moved
come and see the same other team did, so no
bad blood for me. Kind of felt like my guys
were taking this big step I was taking in life
with them.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
I mean, I can see that point of view. If
that's what you're sure what brought you to? Okay, see
and you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Think about that for a second.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Can you imagine if you moved to a town that's
a pretty crazy thing. The guy moved the same time
the Sonics moved to that hell hole. Yeah, to that
place of all places. I don't know if I probably
guess i'd be I'll probably be a fan. Let's see
we have.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
A lot from our earlier conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Okay, NBA is dead to me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
I have not intentionally watched one minutes of if like
his team back, I will not watch or be a fan.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Screwed the NBA. Should you stronger language, I'll stop it.
I hate those Those text bother me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
If Oklahoma City wins the Championships is a four two five,
I'll clap for the thunder Sonics. I blame Howard Schultz
more than Clay Bennett and even David Stern.

Speaker 4 (01:02:16):
That's way too mature for this show.

Speaker 2 (01:02:21):
I just now why you do you? I can't. I
don't understand that you're able to separate that that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Much the thunder Sonics. First of all, don't ever use
those words again.

Speaker 7 (01:02:37):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Something on David Stone's Headstone is still on my bucket
list crass, not classy.

Speaker 2 (01:02:44):
But okay, I can't. I can't endorse you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I cannot endorse that, but I will chuckle and snicker.

Speaker 3 (01:02:52):
How about this one three six? So we gave up
two first rounders for Jamal Adams. The fact we haven't
thrown a second for Jay R. Alexander makes me pull
my hair up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
Maybe they've born from number six.

Speaker 1 (01:03:02):
Yeah to me, this is from Jason to me, the
game has changed tons since the songs were here. Way
too many threes, not enough defense, no offensive sets, a
lot of one on one dribbling, and a lot of traveling.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Not called.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
They used to get upset and nervous about the playoffs,
but not now not so much. Yeah, So for him
it's kind of got away. I referenced earlier, if you're
just joining us. Jason Quick, my buddy down in Portland
works for the Athletic, wrote a great story in George Carl.
Carl talks about today's NBA in that regard, and it's
not just old man yelling at clouds. Yeah, it's it's
a lot more than that, because I mean, he had

(01:03:32):
some teams that got up and down the floor. So
but it's a good read. But it was interesting talking
about the way too many threes, not enough defense because
because those teams play, I mean, he had the best
DEFENSEI player in the league his name. Actually, I would
say George and Seattle had two of the top five
or six defensive players in the league. They had Nyate
and Gary. Yeah, like Nate and Gary were phenomenal defensively.

Speaker 3 (01:03:56):
From the nine to four nine. Let's where that is?
That's this one one of my favorites. Ian, Your young
paddawan just named a bunch of legendary sonics. If he
would have thrown in Vladimir rod Monovitch, I would say
he's some sort of savant.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Radmanovich.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
Yeah, uh two O six. I thank you for banging
the drum of the thunder. I get nervous about it
every damn year and love the few seasons they missed
the playoffs. It's been very few, by the way, only
five since I left, such a relaxing April May in June.
And while it feel better once we have a team back,
will forever real hate them and root hard against them. Yeah,
I just I think when we do get a team back,
it'll be a lot easier to stomach if they have success,

(01:04:33):
because it will have our team back and they can
just be Oklahoma City's team, and hopefully we get all
that history back. GP is going to have his jersey
retired in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
It'll be knocking on Sam Hallway's door from day one,
going okay, you can retire, retire. I want to be
the g retire about jersey. Gary Payton here.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
That would look at me, come on, thing to do?

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
It's what him.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Yeah, he will, Now he'll he'll want to be the
GM or the coach, and no, you don't want those things.
Do you want him to be around some way or shape.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Or freaking abassador you know something?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Yeah, I think if there's one guy that really couldn't
relate to today's NBA always kids in there but sound,
it would be him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Yes, it would be him at the top of the list.

Speaker 3 (01:05:22):
And you see that when he starts talking trash to
NBA players when he goes to games.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Yeah, yeah, uh please, pretty simple. Really haven't watched the
NBA games? Has always spread stress free springs. If you
don't care, it never happened. I guess it will happen.
It could happen. It will not be good if it happens.
I'm just going to tell you that. Let's see, I
knew the old Vechkin ones would be good. Thank you

(01:05:47):
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
Three to six.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
You guys never disappointed that group of people. You guys
never disappoint No, you do, not head in the sand,
keep going, what do you got?

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
Three six? I was talking about the seventy conversation. Oh it's
pronounced stan Coo. I thought it was stank Oven.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
I thought I thought the way that person said.

Speaker 6 (01:06:05):
Was stank Oven.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
Yeah, like you're just trying to phonetically, yes, spell it.

Speaker 6 (01:06:10):
Oven full of stank.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:06:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:14):
I think if a move like that for a ranting
and type player, because I think if you're looking at
talent wise, I think Maddie's on the on par with
Logan stank Oven.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
Stand Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
He's a better player, right you think so? Yeah, buddy, Matt,
he's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:06:30):
So you'd be able to get more theoretically then, but
Dallas gave up Matt.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
Maddy's an interesting one.

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I'll be honest with you, I don't know what to
think about about it. I don't either. I I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
You'd have to throw a trade in front of me
for me to say that that's yes, okay, yeah, I'm
not going to do the blanket like, yeah, just trade him.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I do agree with what you said this morning. I
think Berkeley is the one guy off the table that
would be off the table just because you don't know yet,
like you used to have some frame of reference of
what the guys that have played in this league can do.
I mean Berkeley may not turn out to be anything right, right,
but he could be special. And it's sure you don't
want to and you don't want to give that up.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
And I think it's like you could tell through the
development it's the first time we felt, oh, this guy
could be like top tier NHL player. You you felt
Maddie was a good player from the start, but he
always felt like, Okay, you know he's not going to
be the superstar that this team needs.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
Yeah, two more. I'll read here real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:07:21):
Anyone who supports us from the three six zero, anyone
who supports a Thunder in any blanking capacity automatically gets
their Seattle card pulled. This is a blanking rule. I'm
with you three six.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
And all and.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Everything you said and how you typed it. All those
words you use, I can't use on the air. Speaking
of which, Keith Miller f the Thunder for life tattooed
on my heart, can never take it off.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
I mean agree, that's both theoretical and agree literal.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
Agree, agree, and agree again all day, every day. Away
you go, Okay, we're good, We're good.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
I think we're goodP to you join just next week.

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Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
What's wrong? Am I supposed to push my own buttons?

Speaker 5 (01:08:31):
Now? Oh my?

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
How big are you?

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Wow? Okay? In the words of Roden Burgundy, I'm kind
of a big deal. Okay, Okay, there you I got
a shirt that says, uh, kind of a big deal.
Well you are, yeah, I mean you are now.

Speaker 13 (01:08:45):
Abound in books at an apartment that smells like Mahogany.

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
I mean a few years ago you took over the
role as a franchise here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
No, I don't want to know you did. I don't
want that you jump over that.

Speaker 13 (01:08:54):
Practically that's your gig pal, because you're the oldest person here.
I think you actually are the oldest per person in
the building, by the way, because Levin's never around anymore?

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Am I really?

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:09:03):
You Ryan?

Speaker 8 (01:09:05):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Not, Actually he is Ansel's arden. I know that's for
a fact. Now, you can you can deny. You can
deny all you want. But yeah, yeah, does that mean
I can retire?

Speaker 13 (01:09:17):
I was always wondering, Jess, why we had to have that,
like senior citizen, like toilet bowl seed extender put in
in the men's room.

Speaker 6 (01:09:25):
Well, I've never been in there, so so.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
This guy over here it is for me.

Speaker 5 (01:09:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
I put a squatty party in the girls.

Speaker 2 (01:09:31):
We have one. We have one at home. A squatty
squatty partty'll change your life.

Speaker 6 (01:09:35):
Life change.

Speaker 13 (01:09:37):
No, yeah, you're It goes in front of the toilet.
You lift up your feet like this while you're doing
your business, and it just opens everything up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
It's phenomenal if.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
You want the commercial for it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Incredible.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
It is the shorter shortest bathroom breaks. My wife swears
by it, but I will talk on it bashedly. So
I I got a really nice one that I put
together on Amazon.

Speaker 6 (01:09:59):
So it's a nice esthetic. Yeah, I got a little
woods and I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
Screwed it together and good enough for you. You got
to have like well, I didn't.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
Want it to get thrown out. It looks like a potty.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Got to go on Amazon. Oh I see that that's
like for kids.

Speaker 4 (01:10:16):
Well, no, it looks like the step stool they would
use to brush their teeth at.

Speaker 2 (01:10:20):
The sink and slaps up a great point. Why not
just use the step stool.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Because it doesn't sound as cool as a squatty potty,
But they.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
Did brilliant marketing with it, and people started buying them
almost as probably like a ha, and then they're like,
oh crap.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
Literally, my wife, my wife was and my mother in
laws the other day and she's like, have you ever gone,
you know, upstairs? And her I said, well, probably goes.

Speaker 5 (01:10:45):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
That's how tall the potty is.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Like the bat of the toilet right apparently it's like
your your legs almost dangling because tall.

Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
I know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
But so that's why I haven't noticed it. But because
I want one of those. I'm like, you want a
tall like a tall seat toilet?

Speaker 13 (01:10:57):
Yeah, but you use one like my mom uses one.
By the way, I have no idea how this conversation
you started one because.

Speaker 6 (01:11:05):
We're talking about agent situation.

Speaker 13 (01:11:08):
You're old, and you know my mom's got Parkinson. So
she she stumbles in on her walk and then instead
of she doesn't have to go down sitting down, she
just slides over.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
I got you, know it's right. Put a seatbelt on
there in case she falls off. It's phenomenal. I'll change
the subject in a sharp right turn here. Just for giggles,
let's talk about the days and stead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
No, we don't want to do that. What is this situation?
I keep singing on the on the old social media.
You got somebody that's gonna sing bow down to Washington? Y.

Speaker 13 (01:11:35):
Yeah, U there is a there's a fundraiser going on
right now obviously, uh for a for a gall over
at U dub who needs some serious medical help.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
And they've raised about eighty seven thousand dollars. Yeah, very cool.

Speaker 13 (01:11:48):
I apparently there is a and you'll love the handle
of this guy. Oh twelve is his handle?

Speaker 6 (01:11:56):
Okay, So I guess I saw that.

Speaker 13 (01:11:59):
I guess I blocked them years ago on social media, which,
by the way, just say, you know I haven't blocked
somebody on Twitter or x in years.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
What would what would get you to block somebody? I
don't block anybody. I just mute him, now, mute him.
But what you got to block a buck?

Speaker 13 (01:12:13):
If I'm in a bad mood, if you annoy me,
even in the slightest, I'm done.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
With you, right now you just mute. I just mute.

Speaker 13 (01:12:19):
Yeah, why should I suffer? You know, you you keep
thinking that you're you know, barking into the wind or whatever.
Just keep screaming. So my mute list is about eight
hundred people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:29):
Long right now. It's phenomenal.

Speaker 13 (01:12:30):
Okay, But so this guy or gallared thing, I don't
even know who it is.

Speaker 6 (01:12:33):
It's apparently Twitter user.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
Yeah, but who is who is it? Who is it?
It's what's the person's name?

Speaker 4 (01:12:41):
Is the person is the avatars cartoon don't.

Speaker 13 (01:12:45):
Have any idea. That's the whole point. That's why I
want to engage. I refuse to engage. So this person
has offered to come on the show and sing bow
down to Washington as an Oregon fan.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
And my response is, first of all, I don't know
who you are. Number one, Number.

Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
Two, Uh, it's a duck fan.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
Okay, yeah, it's a duck fan or somebody posing as
a Duck fan.

Speaker 6 (01:13:04):
It is someone who has a name.

Speaker 2 (01:13:06):
And then I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
If you want me to say it number.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Just say whatever you want. If it's if it's on that,
I don't know if it's a real name.

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
What's the name When it's two elves.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
Just you listening, you know what?

Speaker 4 (01:13:19):
But when you said, but I thought that was a
handle name, but that is a thing.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
No, now I get it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
I don't know how you do this, man, I mean, but.

Speaker 4 (01:13:29):
I thought that the I thought the profile was zero
dash one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
And I'm like, the guy made you when you look
at it, The guy makes you think about it. For
some time, I didn't think like, the less time we
spend together the better. Are you gonna let the guys?
Let the guy sing in the Washington on the air?

Speaker 12 (01:13:44):
But who is he?

Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
I don't know. I'm again, get Dan Lanning to do it?
Can they call you?

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
Get Achilles Smith to do it? Who is this person?
Am I giving this person the time because it's a
good cause? Well, but we can prom up the good
cause without this person.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Well but if it's a Duck fan singing about on
the Washing ten, all right, I'll think about it, okay
for you. Why don't you do something for the community.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
I'll think about it for you, all right. It sounds
like it sounds like, oh and twelve and company. That
a nice shove a raising mine. We're saying, oh in
twelve admit it saying.

Speaker 13 (01:14:16):
The greatest thing ever to happen to the Cougar program
as the Husky is going, oh in twelve and I'll
let you I'll let you enjoy that.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
It might be might be for the Ducks as well.
When you come out, What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
What do you do?

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (01:14:27):
Florio the butthole? Oh at three ten? Yeah, come on, dude,
Petros will be here at four o'clock today. Okay, Larry
Stone after the Mariners game against the A's at five
o'clock tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:14:39):
In the pro tradition of Boone and Susan, is he
going to be a manager soon or something?

Speaker 13 (01:14:42):
Cruder is not doing Thursdays with us. You might be
the pitching coach of the Marlins by June.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
And Larry still will be the new GM of the Athletics.

Speaker 13 (01:14:48):
Would be I should right, We're going to discuss if
we should approach the Oklahoma City Denver game tonight the
way I typically approach the Apple Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
I'll explain coming up next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
That is what you call professional teas, lady and gentlemen.
Huh that went? We went from toilets to a teas
by for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness this
paddle day saying so long everyone,

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