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June 10, 2025 73 mins
The Mariners had the most Mariners game yesterday - oh and Bryce Miller heads to the IL.    Joe Sheehan, The Joe Sheehan Newsletter joins us to discuss the most recent Mariners' series, what the team might be able to do to improve and what the next five weeks look like across the league, depending on who needs to do what. Finally, the pitching rotation giveth and taketh when it comes to recovery and new injuries.   The Daily Power Play!    John Lund Unleashed! John joins Ian to give him a whole big hard time as usual. Both Lund and Ian are at OTA's, respectively in Seattle and Santa Clara. We take a deep dive into state income tax and how it impacts athlete decisions on where to play. Finally, how will Aaron Rodgers work in Pittsburgh?   We check in on the unrestricted free agent text line!  Crosstalk with Softy!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome in. He internesced with you show brought to by
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is back at the station and welcome back, Jessman. Great
to see you. Great to have you back.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Good to see you too.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Happy to have you back here as well. So the
band is all together again and we can talk about
what happened last night.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
What a day to come back, Jess.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Jesse, you missed it yesterday. We had out.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Thinking, yeah, all my special magic luck was missing.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
Yeah, it wasn't because we saw it last night.

Speaker 4 (00:31):
You missed a.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Magical molliwop yesterday in which see this, this is what
you missed. Sometimes Nathan was just singing the praises? Was
he not Andrews singing the praises of dom Canzone yesterday?

Speaker 5 (00:45):
I had to hit the dump button because Chris swore
on the air, uh. And it was in reaction to
dom Can Zone and like Nathan was explaining how he
was the guy that was playing center field in Tacoma
and that was such a surprise to Chris and everyone,
to be honest, because I didn't know that either that
we had a little bit of an unhinged reaction.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Shall I say it was?

Speaker 6 (01:07):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
I think you guys said of the postcast. I think
it was Chris of the postcast last night, that is
the most Mariner game ever, and it probably is. It
might sum up forty nine Daveney House, where are you?
Forty nine long years? I think that that was summed
up in there. You're sore, you're down for nothing in
the ninth inning for people who didn't see it, and

(01:29):
just I'm gonna give you the very basic sause it's
all you need to know. You're down for nothing. Your
offense has done nothing all game long, down for nothing,
down to two outs and actually two outs and then
after an one pitch with two outs and nobody on no, well,
there's a runner on first?

Speaker 6 (01:46):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Was a JPO? Well?

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, first, Before that, it was the Dbacks closer that
throws a pitch and calls for the training.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
Stat Yeah, but was there did he allow a runner
or not? I don't think.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
I don't think he did. The new guy came in
and was, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
So nobody on two outs and one strikes, you're two
strikes away. The closer was still on one hundred hundred
and one miles an hour. They weren't touching him the
one pitch and it was down to like ninety seven
and he calls for the trainer. He comes out and
they're like, uh, okay, this this game was over and

(02:20):
now it's not. And then all of a sudden, the Mariners,
with two outs, scraped together four runs. Dom cans On
with the two run home run with two strikes on him.
Mind you, yeah, it hits an absolute bomb, much to
the chagrin of Nathan Bishop over there in Kids Out
County and he and we're tied and we're thinking, all right,
let's go, and then they get in extra innings because

(02:44):
they can't push a run across from second base with
three different opportunities, and it just it. It was one
of those nights and here we are against Uh. It's
just it's just been one of those those stretches for
this team. We'll talk more about that with Joe Shean
coming up here today at one twenty. Lund's going to
join us at two o'clock, so we'll get him on
coming up two pm today. UH, talk all things with

(03:08):
Lund and uh and we'll you know, talk about mini
camps and baseball and misery loving company. Get into a
little bit of college football as well college sports with
him too. Uh, the changing times that have happened, Jeff,
we have a new policy. I'm not sure when it's
gonna change. It could change tomorrow, might even change today.
But as of right now, as of one oh seven pm,

(03:29):
new policy, we're done with the text line until it
gets sponsored. Oh and here's why. Like if anders, if
you see something, let me know that's worthwhile. It's it's
a cesspool of hate from the seven one four.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
Welcome back, Jess. You are sorely missed. Thoughts and prayers
to you and your family.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Well, thank you. That's worth it.

Speaker 3 (03:47):
That one's worth it. That's the one we'll do.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
So Andrews, you're in charge.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
If you see something, really it's turning into a cesspool
of hate and where we're don't like that and where
our world is today. It's so I'm gonna hit on
stud athletes. I heard a term MJ in the midday
and Hugh Millen talking about it today and I MJ said,
there's no such thing as student athletes anymore. I remember
want to hear the term student athlete again act say that,

(04:11):
and I was like, I almost drove off the road.
I'm like, it's everything wrong with college sports now is
when we hear I hear stuff like that, and Mark's
not making policy, but that's an assumption by many across
the country and it could not be further from the truth.
And so we'll touch in on that coming up at
two thirty a little bit today as well, the House

(04:32):
settlement coming in and obviously it's the changing landscape of
college athletics are what they are. So we'll do that
at at two thirty in the meantime Lund and then
we'll touch in on a little bit of Seahawks as
well before I get to that one five daily power play.
Something a little different today. There's a big topic going on,

(04:54):
and I think we touched on it briefly last week,
I believe just on the just the taxes in the NHL.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
We might have mentioned it, like yeah, kind of in
the passing of other topics.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
I'm going to broaden it out, not just to the NHL,
but also here we're sitting at the Virginia based Athletic
Center here in Seattle.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Whether it be the by the way, a beautifully new
painted CLUBB.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Yeah, no more, it's it's yeah, I kind of miss
all the old press guides and stuff. But that's okay.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
It looks very nice, very fresh.

Speaker 4 (05:22):
But there is a.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
We have an advantage in this state that for both
the team here and the team out at Northgate, which
have to operate under the constraints of a salary cap,
we have an advantage here. Now the Mariners don't have
a salary cap, but they also should have an advantage.
They should route be roughly eight to ten percent above
the average team in baseball in terms of being able

(05:47):
to pay players. Now that's their decision. It's every team
in baseball has their own budgets. I'm gonna talk to
Sheen about Pittsburgh for example, coming up again. That's a
good example of just cheap ownership. I know people here
want to kill Stanton. There's worst owners out there, believe
it or not.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
Yeah, I'll look at the what is it, the Sacramento Aths.

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yes, whatever, they're called, the sacer Vegasland Yeah, exactly, there
we go.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
I like that, but we'll talk.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Well, We've got some great sound from Carrie Betman, the
NHL commissioner, last night, and I just don't think I
think it applies not just to the NHL, but all
across the board. So we'll do that coming up at
one forty five today as well. Real quick Seahawks stuff
watching briefly before we came inside here a minute ago.
The Michael Dixon thing. Just a real quick note. He is,

(06:31):
arguably and whether it's he's a one time first team
All Pro, I think they they unless your name is
Ray guy. It feels like they move that that award
around and kind of share it with people every year.
It's kind of like who gets everyone gets a ribbon.
He's he's the best punner in the NFL in my opinion.
His ability not just to if he needs to hit
it seventy yards he does. If he needs to hit

(06:53):
it thirty five and drop it down and kill it
at the five, he does. Directionally, he puts a spin
off that's different. We heard of that when he first
got drafted out of Texas. He's just he and he's
really really good at what he does, and he can
flip a field for a coach that's a defensive minded guy.
That's really important and so good for him getting a

(07:14):
contract that makes him the highest paid guy in the game.
I think it's awesome, yeah, at his position, and I
just I think it's cool for him, And I like,
what this This is a Schneider thing. I always thought
it was a Pete Carroll thing, but I think it's
obviously is a Schneider thing, or maybe it was both,
and Schneider's just kept the tradition. I've and we love you,
Mike if you're listening, probably not probably the cabin somewhere,

(07:35):
but you know, like Mike and others, they bring in
like two kickers a year, two punters a year, a
couple of long snappers, and like have competitions and all that.
Pete and Johnson's really kind of the start, like here's
our kicker, here's our punter. We're good now. The only
time they had a competition was when John Ryan was
still here and they drafted Dixon. They didn't know if

(07:59):
Dick Dixon was going to make the team, but they
had John under contracts still and it was kind of
a messy situation, but by and large, those three guys.
I was talking to norm Johnson, the X Seahawk kicker.
He was here last week for their alumni stuff and
Norma was out and then we're laughing. I go, I've
got joking about the three guys. They just go off
into the back corner. They do their things, screw around,
then they come out. Myles kick a couple field goals,

(08:20):
They'll do a couple of special teams. Things boom, and
then they're done. They never worry about it, Like you
go in to training camp every year and it's like,
here's our punter, here's our kicker, here's our long snapper.
We're done. We like, we're not gonna waste a roster
spot in training camp. I know there's ninety, but we're
not gonna waste one on two long snappers or two
punters or two kickers. Just do it and val they
lock up Dixon, they get a little bit money back,

(08:41):
I think on the cap too, so good for him.
Just a shout out to Michael Dixon. He's just he's
the best in the business and he got paid. Outside
of that, there's no I mean, honestly, it's mini camp.
You can't really do much in terms of they're not
in pads or anything like that. I just like seeing
a healthy Cooper Cup out there. That to me is
that that to me is in a in a health,
Abe Lucas. Ernest Jones was doing a little bit of

(09:04):
stuff today. He was out there. He's coming off surgery.
There's a couple of the guys that are still kind
of slowly working the way back in. But Cooper Cup
being healthy is massive because every time you hear people
talk about the Seahawks wide receiving corps, it's like, well,
you know, I don't know. It's they got Valdez Scantling,
he's old, They've got JSN. He'll be great. But it's
just him because there's all these other question marks, and

(09:24):
there are question marks. Is Marcus Valdez Scantling? Is he
good enough? Is he still good? You know, Q says
watching him kind of looks like he's lost a little bit. Okay, good,
he was still one of the fastest players the league.
He can probably lose a little bit and still be good.
But the key is Cooper Cup. When Cooper Cup's healthy,
he is one of the top five wide receivers in
this league. Now, he's not stretching a field like guys

(09:44):
like Jefferson and others are, you know, Jamar Chase that
type of guy. He's not stretching the fields, not running
posting running by guys. But all he does is catch
the ball, make first downs and move the chance. Well
that's what this coaching staff wants. He's healthy, he looks great,
knock on when he stays healthy, and all those things happen.
Because to me, that's the biggest story is health in
mini camp. We gotta take a break. Joe Shean Joshian

(10:07):
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Speaker 1 (10:44):
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Speaker 4 (10:54):
Hello, sir, how are you good man?

Speaker 6 (10:57):
Get my summer started this week? Got to go to
a game with the Little Leaders Friday, Camden Yards. Then
I go out to LA for a couple of weeks,
just a house sitting, catch some Apels and Dodgers baseball.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I love it, apps fantastic. I want to get to
a number of topics, including our own baseball team in
a second. I want to bring this up though, because
I was I worked for the hockey team out here
as well, the Krack, and I was out there yesterday
and we were I was talking a few of the
guys in the office and we were kind of lamenting
the Mariners sensational one in five week, and as someone

(11:26):
brought up, well, you know, you could be the Rockies,
you could be the Pirates, you could be the White Sox,
and et cetera, et cetera. Let me just start with
the Rockies for a second. Twelve and fifty three. There
isn't a team in professional sports since when was a
two thousand and eleven, I believe twenty ten, when the

(11:46):
Detroit Lions went on seventeen or sixteen, I guess that
year our Buddy Cliff favorite played for them, that has
had this type of record, a one eighty five winning percentage. Joe,
what can be done about that? If anything? I mean
to me, it's just it's unaccept Like you're a minus
one ninety eight and run differential. Let me emphasize that
minus one ninety eight in run differential, Like that's just unacceptable.

Speaker 6 (12:09):
There's a lot of different ways you can become that bad.
MLB has tried to address teams intentionally.

Speaker 8 (12:16):
Being that bad.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
They changed they we created a draft lottery, made it
so that teams couldn't couldn't draft in the top ten
for more than two straight years if you're a large
market team. Were the two straight years for any team?
More than one straight year for a large market team?
So Mban's addressed teams that are intentionally this bad. I
don't know what you can do about a team that's
just this incompetent. I thought the Rockies would be bad

(12:37):
this year. I didn't think they did. The worst team
in baseball. I had that as the Barlins. And you've
got an organization that has just not made good decisions
for a long time, and for a while their player
development let them get away with that. This is a
team that brought up troychu Lewitski and Todd Helton in
the two thousands. In the twenty ten's it was Charlie Blackman.

(12:58):
It was a bunch of pitchers that help them make
the playoffs in seventeen and eighteen. Some of them are
still in the rotation. And that gets to one of
the issues with the Rockies is that they value continuity.
They value culture, and they value to an extent that
it's prevented them from maybe making the kind of baseball
decisions they should make. It works for them, you know,
it was six years, six times they made the playoffs

(13:20):
in thirty one years or something like that. They've had
enough success and I think they can themselves are going
to work every ten years. They bounced into the playoffs.
But you know, the game has changed a lot in
the sense that the Rockies got a tragen. The game
is to lots of stick bon fortun over the team. Gosh,
I let's say eight or nine someone in there, and
you just can't it's one thing to value culture. It's

(13:41):
on the value culture to the exclusion of other things.
And you have a Rocket franchise that because it's still
drops about that they grow up, want to say, forty
thousand a game this weekend playing the Mets. Now, some
of that at the Mets, but that's a team that
hasn't felt the pain of playing in front of six

(14:01):
thousand people the way the Age did the Coliseum, the
way the Marlins have, way the Pirates have at times.
They still draw really well, and I think until they
feel it at the gate, until they feel it in
the wallet, they're not.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
Going to change.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
They're going to continue to value culture and welcome two
point five million people into the stands every year at
course Field, and being a regional franchise that they've been
for thirty years. So I don't know how do you
fix this?

Speaker 8 (14:27):
And it starts at the top.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
Monport probably more concerned at this point of breaking the
union than necessarily how to make it his organization better.
You've got Bill shit in the games job. He hasn't
really done anything right, and he's been there forever.

Speaker 8 (14:41):
He hasn'ten a m for New.

Speaker 6 (14:42):
York forever they find the time. But Block after seven seasons,
he made the playoffs the first year, seventy by twenty
at eighteen, and he had been a much SIMP. I
just don't know, maybe change a culture where there hasn't
been a pain point yet, maybe being a laughing stock.
If they were to lose a hundred and twenty five games,
maybe that would change something. But right now they're still

(15:04):
making money.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
It's interesting about the culture not wanting to fire somebody
because it's we sit here in the market. They just
reference a hockey team. The crack can have been criticized
by people because they're on their third coach in three years.
The guy that got fired two years ago, there were
a lot of reasons that they let him go, just
the culture, different things, and so they moved on. They
hired a guy last year they brought up from the
minor their minor league team, and they thought, you know,

(15:27):
with player development, he'd be good for some of the
young guys. He just was frankly over his skis at
the NHL level and used to be an NHL head coach.
Maybe it passed them by with the years. Much like baseball,
hockey uses different numbers and systems now than some guys adapt,
some don't, and they got criticized. What you're telling me
what the Rockies is they don't want to fire people.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
They don't they value their continuity. Value their people was issue.
It was a lot of coverage of them back into
two thousands about being a very Christian organization, which you know,
there's nothing wrong with that, I want to judge, but
it does go to this idea that you know, we
value people in culture more than necessarily we value say
getting the highest war type players or bringing certain guys in. So,

(16:09):
you know, I just think they're doing things differently than
the other twenty nine teams are. They're valuing things different
than the twenty nine teams are. I mean, they're if
you look at any scale of like you know, how
teams use analytics, how teams use data, they're thirtieth and
they're falling behind. It used to be the Twins were
kind of in the same ranges them, but the Twins
have come up very far, very fast in terms of

(16:32):
using data. The Rockies are last in any measure of
how well teams his modern tools. So, like I say,
until ownership says we need to do things differently, you're
not going to change. This is set from the top
down by Dick Domport, and I don't see anything in
him that says they thought they were gonna be he
said in the spring he thought they were gonna be

(16:52):
good this year. You talking about them having one of
the best in fields in baseball. It's weird. It's we
think about bad owners as being guys who either meddle
or they just don't spend money. Well, the Rockies are
generally in the middle of the pack and payroll. They
don't spend it well. The Chris Bryant deal is going
to go forever, and Brian's gonna put up like four
war of the course.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Of the deal.

Speaker 6 (17:13):
He doesn't really get involved in like personnel decisions. He
just doesn't. He doesn't press them to win. He lets
guys keep their jobs forever. And you're just not You're
just I got put this. It's like a nineteen nineties
baseball organization in twenty twenty five, whereas like the Pirates,
to pick a different example, like the Pirates do things

(17:35):
in player development and player analysis that are modern. Ben
Charrington came out of the Red.

Speaker 8 (17:41):
Sox before that.

Speaker 6 (17:43):
Ah God, I forget the other gentleman's name, but the
gym for them was a modern GF. Their issues are
an owner who just doesn't support the team, like that's
easier to diverse. The Rockies have an owner who has
written some checks and who doesn't get in the way.
It's just he doesn't push them to win the way
you want your owner too. So, like he said, I
think he's holding on. He's also been at the forefront.

(18:05):
Not only does Dick Montfort want to see a payroll cap,
he wants a cap on all other expenses. Like he's
frustrated that the Dodgers spend all this money on analytics
and on scouts. He wants literally a cap on total
expenditures for on field and off field. He doesn't want
a competitive environment. He wants, honestly, what a lot of

(18:27):
NFL teams have owners have. So you can see that
he's not in this to compete. He's in this to
make the money without having to work all too hard
about it.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
It's interesting because I'm looking around I want to be Normally,
I wouldn't spend time on a last place team in
a division that MS aren't involved without here in Seattle.
But I think at twelve and fifty three, it's fascinating
to see where they're at. Pirates are easy to look
at too. They're nine in twenty two on the road,
they right, They're a five hundred team at home. They
just can't win in the road. They're awful there. But
I want to go to the Diamondbacks because that's who
Seattle's got two more games left. They lost a heartbreaker
last night. We'll get to our baseball team in a second,

(18:59):
but Joe, as I kind of look through the standings,
and I'll be honest with you, I hadn't really even
glanced at wildcard standings up until I don't know, Andrews
what the last six days?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Seven days?

Speaker 5 (19:09):
Yeah, there's no use in doing that at this point baseball, Well, no.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
But it is. It is worth it now because you
know why, when you're not in first place, you start
looking at wildcard race standings, And that's what I started
to do with the Mariners. But I bring that up
for this reason, Joe. Are we back to the same
world we've been in the last couple of years where
we're gonna get closer to that trade deadline post All
Star break and they're still going to be two thirds
of the league in it because of the wildcard.

Speaker 6 (19:32):
Pirates, Rockies, White Sox, Marlins, four teams that I know
aren't going to be very good, maybe any of the
Angels hovering around five.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
Hundred are bad.

Speaker 6 (19:44):
Yeah, but you put the seven or eight sellers together,
and you don't have a lot of good baseball players. Like,
if you actually look at the talent it's going to
be on offer, it's going to be a lot of
fourth and fifch starters. It's going to be a lot
of guys who might hit six or seventh in a
line or fortune. Uh, there's not you know, they'll be rms,
they'll be relief arms. But even those teams don't have

(20:05):
great ones. I just don't know. It's one thing. I
mean if some of these teams put their controlled players,
like were the Angels to trade Jose Soriano, who's burgs
is a pretty good starter for them, and he's got
four plus years of control left. You know, maybe that
gets you something in return. But in terms of the
usual like the veteran bats that we usually see, the
veteran starters, there's just not a lot on them. There's

(20:27):
a reason these teams are bad. Yeah, yeah, I was
like I was right about the Oros today, Like the
Euros are positioned possibly as a seller, but you know,
Sedject Mullins, who's really a leftfielder, playing center, and he's
got a two thirty three thirty four forty line. You've got,
you know, a bunch of fifth starters, and your fourth
starters in e Flyn and Suicano and Charlie Morton. It's

(20:48):
it's there's just not a lot out there. And last year,
you know, Baseball America counted it up. There were no
type top one hundred prospects traded, and they were like
twenty one top five hundred, top five hundred prospect to
trade it. And that's a reflection of teams valuing prospects,
but also the quality of players that were available at
the deadline. So when you have on July twenty six,

(21:11):
twenty one to twenty two teams within five games of
a playoff spot, it becomes very hard to make a market.
I think they'll eventually move the trade deadline back, but
until they do, we're just not going to have very
exciting trade deadlines.

Speaker 1 (21:23):
Is Joshi and Joshian Newsletter Joshian dot Com joining us? Yeah,
I mean I think maybe more, maybe more along the
lines any NHL season usually at two thirds of the
way done, when they do that, NFL's move theirs. But
I bring that up for it because Arizona we're watching it.
They're they're you know, with with their injuries on the
pitching staff and so forth. Like we're daring to dream Andrews, right,
you know, a guy like Gino Suarez would be you know,

(21:45):
could you get him for next to nothing? Would would nail?
Or be a guy that would move anders who else
around the league that you would bat wise that you
can think.

Speaker 3 (21:52):
Of ran O'Hearn.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
You know, Joe just mentioned the Orioles, so he's a
kind of a first basement i'd be looking at for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Are those guys going to be available? It doesn't when
you're only five games out of a wildcard. Probably not right.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
It depends on the motivations too. I mean the Oriols,
they're in the middle of there when they're supposed to
be good. It's a hard thing to take a year
and say, yo, we're gonna sell off our guys.

Speaker 8 (22:17):
And decide that this is gonna.

Speaker 6 (22:18):
Be a year for Michaellias. If he doesn't make the
playoffs this year, there is a chance he's not going
to keep HI up. So is he motivated to sell
or is he motivated to try to make the plays?
If there were I said, a nine out of a
playoff spot. Now you know they get to five over,
then they make them a game a week and they're
in the playoff race. Same thing for the Diamondbacks. You
know they're supposed to be winning right now with all
the money they've invested in Rodriguez and Burns. Obviously he

(22:39):
was out for the year now probably out the next year.
Ldeo Swares Man, how would you ever trade away Ladio Swas?
Who would ever do that?

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 8 (22:48):
Question?

Speaker 1 (22:48):
Yeah, okay, all right, fella, all right, all right, that
was okay.

Speaker 6 (22:56):
I will say that they're going to be that type
of player like Swore in a good lineup shit back six.
They'll hear Hern in a good lineup shit backs. That's
gonna be the kind of players you're going to be
talking about. I just don't there's not a one Soto
trade out there right now. I can't even invent one.
Like look at them. You know, the Nationals are built
around young players. The Orioles are built around young players.

Speaker 8 (23:17):
I just don't see any any.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
True difference makers being traded at this deadline. You know, yeah,
five weeks, anything can happen. I mean, you know, could
I say Trevor's the Red Sox want to trade. Well,
Red Sox fans want to trade Trevor Story, but he's
not even an impact guy anymore. They slip out of
the race. I'm not sure he does a whole lot.
So the Blue Jays might have had some guys, but
they sign They signed Guerrero, and you know, they're just
five behind the Yankees at this point. They've been better

(23:41):
than I expected. So yeah, it's I think we'll have
an eight to nine sellers, and then we'll have a
couple of teams who do the buy and the race
thing right where you trade away a veteran but you
bring back another veteran, the buy and sell thing.

Speaker 5 (23:55):
That might be two or three teams when they trade
away Paul see Wald for Dominic Kenzo.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
Yep, that type of trade exactly.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
And that's where I think the Orioles might come.

Speaker 6 (24:05):
That's where the Diamondbacks back from in where they say, look,
can we make a major league for major league trade?
Or instead, they'll make three trades and two of them
will be buying and one of them will be selling.
GMS have come to really love that middle position. You know,
I grew up with the June fifteenth trade deadline, and
of course you your teams made the playoffs back then. Yes,
I'm all kids asking grandparents in June fifteenth trade deadline.

Speaker 8 (24:26):
But I want to see an earlier that.

Speaker 6 (24:28):
I want to see. Teams have to make these decisions earlier.
They declare, your hands. I don't want to see the
trade deadline gets pushed back to isn't the trades that's
on the NHL like a week before the playoffs start.

Speaker 1 (24:39):
It's late, Yes, it's late.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
It's I don't want I want, yeah to pick a
roster and go with it much earlier. So gms want
to push the decision back as far as possible, right,
gms don't want to get on the line. They don't
want to put the chips down. They woll oh, you know,
we're fifty five and fifty. I don't know. This is
a problem the Red Sox have found themselves in literally
every year since twenty two and two, where they're around
three games out of a playoff spot. They don't know

(25:02):
if they should buy or self. Hey, you know what,
that's what the money is doing. So no, I don't
want to see the trade dead like it's pushed back.
If anything. I want to see it get pushed up,
push the trade deadline up till like the day after
the All Star Game. Everybody's in Seattle or wherever the
All Star Game is, and everybody it's almost like a
mid season winter meetings, and that day after the All
Star Game could be the trade deadline. I think I
enjoy that a lot more than the draft.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, the NHL trade deadline came with about, depending on
the team, an average of like eighteen or nineteen games
left in an eighty two game schedule.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
Yeah, that's that's too late.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
That's just too late.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, it's it's so there's got to be a better
way along the way. Joe she enjoying us. I don't
know if you saw what's going on here, Joe with
us in Seattle, good times. Just when George Kirby comes
back and is fantastic, it looks like George Kirby of
the old days, your favorite. Bryce Miller is now back
on the injured list after having a bunch of subpar
outings and oh, by the way, maybe that bone spurn
his elbow actually is a problem. He's back on the

(25:52):
injured list, and this team two weeks ago was three
and a half games up. Now they're three games behind
the Houston Astros.

Speaker 6 (25:58):
Yeah, they dropped sixteen nineteen. Actually me, I'm thirteen out
of nineteen. I was looking at some of the numbers
and it's everything.

Speaker 8 (26:04):
The hitting's that good.

Speaker 6 (26:05):
They're scoring fewer than four runs a game. They're allowing
more than five runs a game. You mentioned, Miller, there's
just only so many starting pitchers you can lose before
you do start to start.

Speaker 8 (26:14):
To feel it.

Speaker 6 (26:15):
Yeah, i'merson. Hancock was actually pretty good last night, and
he's been better in this little this recent run that
he's had. But I mean, you're putting so much pressure
on that bullpen every single night. It started to crack
a little bit as well. And of course we saw
the loss last night. Carlos Fargus. I believe he was
stretched to a second inning, yes, I remember, Frankly, and
he just threw a ton of pitches and the last
one I think is still going off of Josh Naylor's bat. So,

(26:38):
you know, you just it's tough when you just you lose.

Speaker 8 (26:41):
The projected innings that you're spot having getting Cerby back.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
He didn't look great. I saw the first start and
he didn't look that great, and then you know he's
been pretty he's good all right, stead he steps in.

Speaker 8 (26:53):
Do you have an update on Gilbert?

Speaker 5 (26:55):
Should be back next he's making his second rehab, starting
to combat.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
I think tomorrow, tonight, tomorrow, yeah, then yeah, then expecting
him back next week.

Speaker 6 (27:02):
So so even if you're right off Miller at least
then you've got your you know, you've got Kirby, you've
got Gilbert, you've got Castillo, You've got Wu. I love
what Brian Wu has done. I believe he dos goes tonight.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
They changed that to tomorrow. Evans is taking the place
of Bryce Miller, so yeah, yeah, and I wonder.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
If they're gonna not. I think you gotta worry about
his innings at this point. He's been so good for them,
and I just I don't know that you can get
a full season thirty two starts out of him. So
what are they going to start managing his innings? You
guys have mentioned a few hitters on this in this conversation.
I think they're going to need a start. I think
they're going to have to go into the market. And
even if it is just a four or five somebody

(27:42):
you wouldn't want to be pitching in a playoff game.
But somebody who can give you ten twelve starts in
August in September, that I think is what they're going
to be in the market force.

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(30:13):
Seahawks as well. Maybe even they could make put the
Sounders in that category. Two, there's a big conversation that's
kind of come up during the Stanley Cup playoffs regarding
states that don't have income tax. Florida Panthers and Florida,
so Florida and Tampa Bay two teams in that state.
Florida does not have a state income tax and as such, well,

(30:37):
is it really fair? Is it not fair? What's going on?
The Panthers are able to get guys and effectively pay
them more, circumvent the salary capters. Five states in our
country that have state income or that don't have state
income taxes that have professional sports teams, you know, at
the highest level, Florida, Nevada with the Golden Knights and

(31:00):
the Raiders. Obviously Tennessee, Memphis and Nashville have professional teams.
Texas and Washington, so we're in that category. This is
Gary Bettman on the pregame show last night on TNT.
Paul Bisinette asked the question to Gary Bettman, the NHL commissioner,
Take a listen.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
I don't want to take anything away from the teams
from Florida, in the state.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
Of Florida put to it anyway, Ace put.

Speaker 10 (31:22):
Me at a headlock when I brought this up on
the broadcast in the conference final. Any plans maybe in
the future to implement a balance as far as the
no state tax and now.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
You know we start. I'm just asking.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
It's a ridiculous issue.

Speaker 11 (31:34):
When the Florida teams weren't good, which was for about
seventeen years. Okay, nobody said anything about it. And you know,
for those of you who played, okay, were you sitting
there with the tax table.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
No.

Speaker 11 (31:48):
You wanted to go to a good organization in a
place where you wanted to live, where you wanted to
raise your kids and send them to school. You wanted
to play in a first class arena, with a first
class training facility, with an owner an organization, a GM
and a coach that you were comfortable with. And you
want to have good teammates so you'd have a shot
at winning. That's what motivates it. Could it be a

(32:10):
little bit of a factor if everything else were equal,
I suppose, But that's not it. And by the way,
state taxes high in Los Angeles, high in New York.
What are we gonna do subsidize those teams?

Speaker 10 (32:24):
Can we take tax away from the Province of Ontario
at least just for the leaf sake?

Speaker 3 (32:29):
We just we need something.

Speaker 8 (32:30):
Gary.

Speaker 11 (32:31):
You know I was watching you during the prior rounds.
Your attire was a little suspect in terms of your
journalistic objectivity.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
Referring to business.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Okay, can I just say something real quick? It's so refreshing.
I love Gary. I know how Gary Betman gets a
lot of hate for a lot of from a lot
of hockey fans. But it's comparing that answer to an
Adam Silver answer, which is just politically correct everything, just
trying to not piss anyone off. Yes, having that answer
is so refreshing from a commission to yees.

Speaker 4 (33:05):
Yes, it's a real answer. And you know, here's the
thing he brought up.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
You know, LA New York for example, Right every it's
a challenge in a lot of leagues to attract free agents,
with the exception of the NFL. The NFL is the
one league that it just kind of feels like it's
one hundred percent about the money. Maybe you want to win,
but really, I mean, guys will go anywhere. I mean really,
they'll kind of go anywhere. But the other leagues, especially

(33:29):
you know, especially the NHL with a salary cap, Major
League Baseball and no salary cap. This is a massive
advantage in the state of Washington because depending on the state,
I've worked in two states at heading income tax. I
worked in Utah and Oregon, and it sucks, like grew
up in New York.

Speaker 12 (33:47):
I worked in Connecticut and you and I don't want.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
I don't want to turn this into a political thing
because I know we got all we all have issues
in our states and all of our states, et cetera,
et cetera, but not having a state income tax. Frankly,
it probably will never happen here to take a constitutional
amendment in the state. It's awesome, and you should have
an advantage with that, because Okay, you're gonna be keep
competing with for Mitch Marner, with the Anaheim Ducks Anders. Well,

(34:14):
all things being equal, let's say the money is equal.
Why would not It's not equal because you're going to
take probably an average of two or three million dollars
a year off the top of the off the top
of the thing. But Anaheim and La have better weather
than Seattle, so they have an advantage there. Every city
has an advantage. And what Gary said was true. Good ownership,

(34:35):
good facilities, good coaching, staff, stability, chance to win, all
those things come into plays, your kids, all those things.
So in the case of you know, like Florida's good,
here's what they've done the Panthers. They have drafted well,
they have traded well, they have signed good free agents.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
They treat their players well.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Bill Ziito's a great GM. Palmer is a great coach,
and so you know what, that's what good organizations do.
Tampa Bay was that way before. John Cooper arguably still
the best coach in the NHL. He's been there for
a long time, right, Like like Lywicky will tell you
he worked in Tampa Bay with Festive Wiserman. Like getting
players to go to Tampa was, like Gary Bettman said,
hard Now it's not well. The state in compact should

(35:18):
never be an issue. It should be a bonus. You're
John Stanton, not Johnston, you're Jerry Depoto justin Hollander. You
should be able to go out and say, listen, man,
we actually have an extra couple million dollars. It won't
show that up on your paycheck, and it won't get
taken out on your gross paycheck. It will show up
on the net. Yes, you compare that to going to
play for the Angels.

Speaker 12 (35:39):
You know, the only time I've really seen this be
an issue was with the Big Three, right, because those
three could have in the NBA, right, those three could choose.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Wherever they wanted to go.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
Chris Bash, Dwayne Wade and Lebron James, Right, and they're
like Miami one great location. Two there is the no
state of But that's the only advantage I've really seen it.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
And at or quote unfair.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
Yeah, but that's become a thing in the NHL, and
I think it should be a thing.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
And I agree that's an advantage.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
But you know what's also an advantage is being in
a great city. And well, by the way, you're in
a great city and you who have no state income tax,
that should be good for you, That should work out
for you. I just it's such a it's just it's
funny to hear people complaining about the NHL and I'm
just gonna look at broadened out at the end of sports.

Speaker 3 (36:23):
It's just sad.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Well, well it's sad everything, but it's sad every fan
because they're kicking everyone's ass. And then they're blaming on
no state income tax.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
No, that's unfair.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yeah, that organization has worked there, took us off.

Speaker 1 (36:36):
If it was just no state income tax, then why
wouldn't we be better with the Mariners? Why wouldn't we
be better at the Sea? How would be better with
with the cracket? We should be We should take advantage
of it. You should have more money to spend not
against a cap but the net, because nobody looks.

Speaker 4 (36:51):
I don't know about you guys. You ever look and
see what you get paid?

Speaker 1 (36:54):
Gross? No, you look at the net.

Speaker 12 (36:57):
I don't want to look at that bank account exactly.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
It goes into the suppressing to look at the Andre's
a great point though, honestly, great point about Batman. Yes,
it is kind of nice to hear commissioner actually answer
a question. You know.

Speaker 4 (37:11):
It's just it's like a real person.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
You're not a robots.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yes, indeed, all right, we're good.

Speaker 3 (37:16):
Yeah, we're good.

Speaker 4 (37:17):
John Lines, are you? We won't be good?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Next John Lunch.

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Speaker 1 (38:43):
All right, welcome back in hour number two with the
Virginia Mason Athletics Center. Seahawk Mini camp continues here we
are hanging out having fun football practice. In June.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
John lond joins us as a weekly visit. They make
AUP wacky in the Bay area.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Yeah, they do, that's what we hear.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
Ye. The only guy who gets you a promo spot
is me.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I think rich More likes you. That's why. That's why
you got you. Yeah, doing the show to me, to
be honest with you, the.

Speaker 8 (39:19):
Back of a couple of cackles in the background, I
even heard some cackles in the background there that I
heard of.

Speaker 12 (39:27):
Cackle welcome back, John, hear you all right?

Speaker 8 (39:32):
Very nice.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
Listen fella. Are you Are you at June football practice
like we are?

Speaker 8 (39:37):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. It's the biggest thing ever. I
mean running around in shorts and then having people evaluate
and you and I the last time we spoke, I
said this morning on my show. I said, I wonder
if people are going to do scats or of those
are just going to be for training camp, which they
they they devolved I think from like nobody did it,
then everybody did it in training camp. Now they're starting

(39:57):
to do it in O tas And I'm telling you,
I love the his job, but I this might be
number one on the list, like like we're not. These
are not training camp stats with their joke, these are
mandatory ODA stats. Everybody's like competing or something like that,
and I'm the king of the like just the same
thing in Seattle, Like when did we start this? Man?

(40:17):
Like it's oh extracting crazy, We're we're doing ota stats now.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
I I think, like I mentioned earlier, I said, here's
my my takeaways from watching you know, the first twenty
minutes when we could take.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Pictures and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Today, Yeah, Cooper Cup is healthy.

Speaker 4 (40:32):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
That's all I need, like, like right, it's it's honestly,
it's who's practicing and who's not the right tackle able?
Because who's missed the last two springs and a very
very play he's doing everything in full like, so that's
all you do is you look to see who's healthy
because and okay, maybe you're looking at who's the right
guard rotation like okay whatever, there's no pads on, so
it doesn't matter. But who's healthy. You know, Donald's healthy,

(40:55):
Cooper Cup's healthy. All these guys are healthy. They're they're
pretty much as healthy as a in as a team
in a long time.

Speaker 4 (41:02):
I bring that up.

Speaker 1 (41:03):
Brendon Ayuk, what's his stats? Because he's kind of the
isn't he the biggest question mark? Helthwise for our friends
the forty nine ers.

Speaker 8 (41:09):
Yeah, he may not. He may not play the first
half of the season, and I think that's a that's
a big deal. And I don't know, he's turned into
kind of a pain, but yeah, he's he's not gonna
play for probably the first six or eight games. He's
definitely gonna be in the pupp list and he's not
gonna play very much. So it's that's one of the
biggest points here. I think what you're talking about too is,
you know, there are certain things like I'll give you
a great example, but I'm sure there's an exact comparison

(41:31):
to what the Seahawks are doing. The forty nine Ers
took this linebacker Nick Martin at oak Almost State. He's
five eleven, two twenty. I stood next to him. I'm
not a big man like you. You're you're you're a
large man, and I mean that all that muscle, bass,
no fat whatsoever. But I mean in terms of he's
not a big dude. All right, I'm not a big dude.
He's not a big dude. So he's got to get
through the trash to get to the ball. He looks great,

(41:52):
no tas right, every Oh my god, he runs four four,
all this kind of stuff. Jordan Watkins, he took this
Jordan Watkins kid old miss w receiver in the mid
rounds run of four to threety seven. Everybody's raving about them.
That's great. Those guys are in shorts. You took Seattle,
took Grey's able in the first round. The forty nine
ers took Mkelwaoniams the defensive lineman in the first round,
and they took two other defensive linemen to keep big

(42:14):
guards off of their fast linebackers. We won't know anything
until they put PABs on. And so a lot of
people are trying to create these things based on shorts.
And the athletes are gonna shine. The athletes are gonna
absolutely jump off the page, and so everybody's gonna say
how great these athletes are. But I don't know once
they start, you know, getting the big boys involved, just

(42:34):
like you guys. Your biggest question I think up there
is the offensive line. You won't learn anything in the
OTA is about your offensive line.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
No, the only thing we know is who's who's on it.
In terms of like you know, you can kind of
see how it's gonna shake out. Heading into camp, what's
the rotation. Okay, Cross and Lucas or the tackles first time?
And I think why, I'm thinking that Cross was banged
up last year. He was Cross was banged both those tackles.
You know, Cross was healthy by the time the season
started last year. But those two guys have not had

(43:02):
a healthy spring since they came into the league four
years ago. So those guys are both looking good. And
so we're seeing, Okay, who's there, those guys are there?
Who's the center? Well, Ola, Timmy is normally getting the
one reps. They give a little bit to Sundell Christian Haynes,
who's a guard that didn't couldn't play last year. He's
getting some reps at center, but also at guard at
right guard. And Zabels your left guard and last year

(43:22):
started at right guard at end of the year as
your backup left guard. Right now, law man, that's all
you know. You just see doesn't mean they're gonna be good,
doesn't mean they can block anybody, doesn't mean when they
get to the one on one pass rush drills, when
they actually put shoulder pads on, and you know late
July early August that those guys are gonna be good
enough and shine and not get switched out. All we
can tell right now is who's out there, which is
still interesting, you know, you know, watching Darnald Learn the office.

(43:44):
I'll tell you what's interesting for us because you guys
have this. We've been watching like football from the seventies
and eighties with like you know, I formation and full
backs on the roster and you know, like you guys
have used checked down there, like we haven't seen that.
We you know, we a little bit with with Pete
Carroll with Michael Robinson as a full back, but he
was kind of a skilled fullback, right, you know, I

(44:07):
guess Max Strong with with Holmgren, but you know that
was a West Coast offense. But we really haven't seen that.
For a while, we were seeing old school football the
way God meant football to be played, with an I
formation and a fullback smashing in the face John Well,
you know, and here's here's the.

Speaker 8 (44:20):
Other thing too, And I don't know if that you know,
Kyle Yuschek is not a tremendous blocker like actually the
forty nine ers have trouble on thirty short situations.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
But what he stopped there?

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Stop stop right there? To stop right there, because because
that's that's like the misnomer out there, right. You and
I've talked about before. It's like, well look at you
shot forty four. Man, he's just gonna put him in
there and now, yeah, he's gonna pave the way for
a guy. No, that's not the case.

Speaker 8 (44:42):
He's not Lorenzo O'Neill. You know what I mean, Like,
he's not. So I mean if Seattle is going to
the like they took the kid Alatabama, right, yeah, kid
out of Alabama. Yes, yes, right, Well, they're gonna do
more of what the Ravens do.

Speaker 6 (44:57):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (44:57):
I mean, the Ravens have a three hundred pound on
fullback and Patrick or Card that just he's a bowling
ball and he's just gonna slam guys. But here's one
thing I would caution against for everybody who thinks it's
going to be three yards of a plot of dust
and seattles all of a sudden going to start to
be able to run the ball, which is something they
couldn't do last year, is that it still comes down
to your offensive line. I mean the forty nine ers,
Bet Kyle, you check around forever and he's a better

(45:18):
receiver than he is a blocker. He's not terrible, but
he's he's better as a receiver than a blocker. But
the problem with the forty nine ers, and again this
has been the problem in Seattle, which is why I
bring it up, is that Jake Brendle, the center for
the forty nine ers, gets blown back all the time.
And they're left guard, who the Packers for some reason,
paid eighty million dollars to Aaron Banks, who's slow footed,
and he's not effective. He got blown up too. So

(45:39):
the interior of their offensive line they had a rookie
dominic coone was really good last year, but they're left
guard and their center, and especially when Trent Williams went out,
they couldn't run the ball there. So you can have
the greatest fullback in the world if he's hitting linebackers.
The point of a fullback is your offensive line is
going to take care of the of the lineman and
then here comes that linebacker shooting through, and your pullback's

(46:00):
got to take care of that guy or a safety
or something, so that then there's a hole and you
can get those yards. They couldn't even do the first
part of the process let alone. Then you know, U
Tex going in there and he's trying to help on
a defensive lineman, You're not going anywhere. So I conceptually
I think it's great, and it is, you know, I
think it does work. The biggest thing is we laugh
so many times, especially in the press box. How many

(46:21):
times forty four is? Why don't pen in a pass?
Playing the Niners? Ever throwing the ball? I mean, nobody
covers a fullback, So I don't know if this dude
that Seattle has can catch, but nobody covers the fullback. Nobody.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Well, the two guys that are listened as fullbacks, Brady
Russell and Robbie Ye, Robbie the rookie from Alabama.

Speaker 8 (46:40):
Okay, that's why I did not to say his last day.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Yeah, Robbie the kid out of Alabama.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, okay, they're both converted tight ends, so they should
be able to a little bit. Yeah, yeah, they should
be able to catch a ball on the way you
would think. But we'll see John Lond join us, John
London leashed. I will tell you about how you can listen,
subscribe and all that. But up the end of segment
we were talking, I know you're not a huge NHL guy,
But there's this little thing going on now and I'm

(47:05):
I'm curious about California and how it affects guys down there,
and that's the state income tax. There's there's there's a
lot of bitterness. There's all this bitterness in the NHL.
I know, yeah, all those bitterers in the HL, because
like Florida's kicking everybody's ass and they don't have a
state income tax. If they're one of nine states and
five that have pro sports franchise that don't have a
state income tax. And we were talking about last segment,

(47:26):
it's like, well, that gives you an advantage. You should
have that advantage because you know what, like if you're
in LA, you have an advantage by being in I
don't know LA or the Bay Area, right, so you
have that, you know, like, like does the state income
tax ever get brought up by athletes in California.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
All the time.

Speaker 8 (47:42):
It's thirteen point three percent here, it's the highest, it's
the highest in the country. So every single time like,
well I have agents on or we'll have you whatever,
and it happens all the time. So are they now
having said that, are they paying you know, thirteen percent
more or ten percent more always. But yeah, every single guy,
like every single I know this is stupid, but every

(48:04):
single rookie i'll have on the show, I'll be like,
hey man, remember thirteen point three percent, Like, what are
you talking about. I'm like, yeah, you just gave you
by getting grafted by the fourtenners, you just gave away
thirty percent. They're like, this is supposed to be the
happiest day of my life and you just ruined it.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
I hate you.

Speaker 8 (48:18):
I bring up that and then I say, oh my god,
you think you can afford a house here? And they're like,
what are you talking about. I'm like, oh, this is
just the highest, you know, housing market in the country.
So I enjoy that apartment you're going to live in
with four forty nine ers even though you think you've
made it. I mean, it's it's a huge thing. Yeah, it's.
Every agent, Scott Morris for the Giants, for example, brings
it up all the time in negotiation. Wells, you know,
it's an extra thirteen percent they got to pay. It's constant.

(48:40):
It's constant discussion. Now has it cost them players? I
would think so, because, like you said, if you're in
a state that doesn't have income tax, and we're talking
about the millions of dollars that we're talking about. You know,
add thirteen percent because that's what we're going to take
from you. They're now we I don't get any with damn.
But yeah, that's what California takes from you.

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, thirteen percent, God.

Speaker 8 (48:59):
Thirteen point three.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Yeah, it's brutal sometimes.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
Yeah, yeah, I want the fact. I do not want
just I want a full thirteen point three. Yeah, in
the in the in the rare times that I got bonuses,
because then they nail you a little bit more for
that tier. It's like, yes, I've actually gotten a check
before where they took more money than they actually gave me.
I mean, that's California. I'm not even lying to you.
It is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Well yeah, yeah, bonuses or bonuses are the biggest joke in.

Speaker 8 (49:25):
The Yeah, big bonuses, like they'll they'll you know, because
I get them all the time. And yeah, so you
know you.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
That's why.

Speaker 8 (49:37):
I did get fired right after a bonus. I did
bring that up in the firing meeting. I'm like, I
just got a big old bonus. Are like, yeah, yeah,
that's probably one of the reasons they're firing yet. But
but yeah, I mean, seriously, they it's it's constant with athletes,
constant with athletes.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
By the way, and the agents bad business on their
on their part, Like why wouldn't they have fired you
before you got.

Speaker 8 (49:56):
The bonus exactly days before? He can believe me, My manager,
my my general manager brought that up. You know, we're
being real nice to I know, we're we're cannon and everything.

Speaker 4 (50:08):
Yeah you are.

Speaker 8 (50:10):
You're such a good guy boy.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
What if you managed really doing me right? You're firing me,
but you.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Know, and guess what your bonus makes you ow us money?

Speaker 8 (50:18):
Yeah, no, that was That's what I'm talking about. They
gave me a big bonus on the door, and actually
California got more money than me. It's no life.

Speaker 1 (50:26):
I believe John joining Us. Did you work in Pittsburgh?
I only I forgot. I can't keep track all the
place you worked.

Speaker 8 (50:33):
Yeah, you know what. My son who left this morning
to Boston on a summer internship. He was born in Pittsburgh,
but we moved literally that like the next day he
was born. It's like, and I was working for ESPN,
so I'm like HEYESPN, thanks for the insurance, thanks for
paying for the baby. We gotta go. Yeah, but I
did work in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
Yeah, I saw.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
I saw that because you, uh, you know, you're familiar
with a couple of organizations. And how is Aaron Rodgers
gonna work with the Steelers?

Speaker 8 (50:58):
Horribly? I thought it con Apparently he just got married.
Who knew that? He just got married like two months ago,
and he's talking about how he had these personal things
to take care of it or like whatever, you're in
a cave, you know, on Ayahuascar or something like that.
And then all of a sudden, it's like, oh I
got married.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Wow.

Speaker 8 (51:13):
I don't know who would marry that guy. It would
just be like, you know, he would walk, she'd have
to walk around like a mirror or something like that. Like, Aaron,
you just look great today, You just look amazing, Like,
oh my god. But on the wall, yes, it's you, Aaron,
it's you. But now, Pittsburgh is this blue collar town,
as everybody knows. But they're not going to put up

(51:35):
with stuff, and they don't want to blame here blame
and they you know, it's the bottom line business and
and they like their six pack they have a beer
is called Iron City. There it's the worst beer you've
ever had in your life. And they just they want
a six pack of Iron City. They want to work
their nine to five job, They want to go watch
the Steelers above anything else. I don't know if I
ever told you the story. It's an amazing one dead

(51:56):
of the middle of summer, and I dared try to
talk about the Pittsburgh Pire. I was running the station
at the same time. So I'm doing the show and
the line start light up and I'm like, oh my god,
people want to talk about the Pirates. That's really cool.
And they sucked like they always did. The first guy
that comes on, I pulled the guy up. There was
a third string quarterback you probably remember if you're like
being older. His name was Brian Saint Pierre. He was

(52:16):
a third string quarterback of the Steelers. And this guy,
in this Pittsburgh accent screams away.

Speaker 6 (52:22):
We don't care about no damn Pirates.

Speaker 8 (52:24):
We need to talk about Brian Saint Pierre. And I
thought the guy was kidding, and I was laughing, and
like there was no laughter, and I'm looking across the
glass at you know, at producers and everything. They're looking
to be like no, no, no, no, no, these people are serious,
like they just want to talk to Steelers twenty four seven,
three sixty five. They don't want to talk well at
the time because Lemia was at the end of his
of his tenure Crosby, he was just coming in. Yeah,

(52:46):
so all that kind of stuff. Larry Fitzgerald was back there.
I mean there were stuff to talk about, but it
was just football, football, football, and then some Penguins because
they were pretty good. No pirates, like, no pirates whatsoever.
So I'm trying to get some pirates going in the
middle of June and the deadest time in the NFL schedule.
These people aren't having it. These people are not having it.
So to answer your question, it's it's Steelers twenty four seven,

(53:08):
three sixty five, and they don't want to put up
any of crap, you know, blue collar town and Aaron
don't see him.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
How long until they turn on him?

Speaker 4 (53:14):
All?

Speaker 1 (53:15):
How long until they turn on him?

Speaker 8 (53:17):
They already have. I've already talked to some people back there.
They hate him, they don't want him to be there.
He's a prima donna. That's not their kind of quarterback.
You know what I mean, that's not their guy. The
kind of quarterback they have are like the Bubby Bristers,
And I mean they want him to be effective.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
I'm not even they want him.

Speaker 8 (53:35):
To be effective, but they want him to be like,
you know, part of their fabric and all that kind
of stuff, and they just they don't have any room
for prima donnatites like Russell Wilson's a perfect example. They
ran him out of there in a year. And I
don't know what the Steelers are doing. They the Broncos
said to Russell Wilson, here's fifty million to go away.
Goes to Pittsburgh. The Jets say, here's fifty million to

(53:55):
go away. He goes to Pittsburgh. Like does that not
tell you something? I mean, I'm not the smartest guys
you can tell as I ramble on here, but as
if somebody gives somebody fifty million dollars, I'm not going
to sign that guy. There's a problem, and he's going
to cause problems there. It's going to be an issue.
Steeler fans are already very very skeptical. They're not a
normal fan base. It's like, well we got Aaron Rodgers.

(54:16):
They know that Aaron Rodgers they got they wish they
got him ten years ago, not now. So there are
he's walking into that situation not a fit at all,
and the fans are already skeptical.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Well, and they've got DK there, so like, yeah, that's good.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
Just I mean, now, listen, if DK is at his
best and Rogers has something left, then probably it'll be fine, right,
it'll be all good. But the second the DK has
a meltdown or you know, or doesn't, it's not going
to work either. Yeah, it takes it takes a penel.
I mean, I'm sure Tomin will handle that well right
when he takes a fifteen yard penalty, and like like
those types of things. But I just, I mean, I

(54:53):
I tell people all the time, they say, you know, hey,
you know you saw the stadiums you travel all those
years of the Hawks. You know, where should I go
watch a game? And Lambell obviously is bucket list. I
think Jerry's world is bucket list just because the stadium's
kind of wild and year old stuff. I think the
other one. Honestly, I've said this a number of times,
especially if it's not in like December or January. At
Pittsburgh's one of the best atmospheres of the NFL. It's

(55:14):
just phenomenal, nou. I know, they played the stick song
at the start of the fourth quarter and all that stuff,
and it's just it's phenomenal. But like you said, those
people are lunatics, like they are lunatics.

Speaker 8 (55:25):
No, they are. That's a perfect word for it. I
mean again, I'll give you just a short one on
this so I get pre and posted for the Steelers
years ago. I mean, the snow's going sideways and where
we're right on site there and they have one place
where you can do your RVs the night before, and
people drink so much there. I mean, I know what
the NFL is about, tailgating all that kind of stuff,

(55:47):
but there would be times where remember it used to
be and it's still late on the East Coast, where
you know, Monday at football started like nine o'clock. These
people would marinate and I'm using that word it literally,
they would marinate themselves in booze from like seven o'clock
in the morning and they would be passed out. I mean, seriously,
we had a big thing. It was the dumbest thing
we ever did. We had a we had a free

(56:07):
we had kegs of viicy like free, and people could
come in. And I'm watching these people literally fall down.
I mean they just they have no governor on it.
They just go pedal to the metal all the way.
And so, like you said, this is what they do.
They work their blue collar, they buy their six pack,
They love their Steelers, and they would rather buy season
tickets to the Steelers. Like you said, the atmosphere is
out of this world, but they would rather spend the

(56:29):
money on that than like their own children. It's like
you're you know, your child needs braces. I don't care.
I'm not giving up my season tickets, you know. I mean,
they're just not They're just that's what they are. So
I just don't see a fib But yeah, it's I'm
not even kidding. It's religion. And look, I know Seahawks
fans are great. Forty nine Ers fans are kind of
wine sibber, you know, cheesy or whatever. But Seahawks fans

(56:49):
are great fans. The Steelers take it to it just
a whole new level.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Well, our mutual friend Tim Benn's back there in Pittsburgh,
who you know, we have on every now and then
and stuff and I'll never forget it. First sad training
camp last year and he sends me this picture and
it's of the Russell Wilson entourage, Sierra, the kids, the
name it doesn't work, and they're all and they're sitting
on the field, like literally on the field like just
kind of it, like just right there, like where nobody else.

Speaker 4 (57:13):
Is supposed to go close.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
And he's like, goes, what the hell I said, get
ready for it, man, I'm still right now, get ready
for the I.

Speaker 8 (57:22):
Mean, don't you think that's what Aaron Rodgers is? I
mean I think the same thing.

Speaker 4 (57:25):
And he's worse, worse.

Speaker 8 (57:27):
He is worse, And they just lack of self awareness.
They just don't, you know, they just lack a certain
self awareness because they've been told their whole life that
they're so great. And Aaron Rodgers, you know, doesn't see
any reason why it shouldn't be all about him again.
And that's the polar opposite of what Pittsburgh is just
as a city. It's it's a team, it's a you know,
they love all these guys, but they're not automatic. You

(57:48):
know a lot of teams in professional sports, if you
don their colors, all hatred is gone. It's not like
that in Pittsburgh. You have to earn the black and
gold there and it's and they're not to just say, Okay,
it's Aaron Rodgers. They're not gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (58:02):
I think it's gonna be fantastic.

Speaker 8 (58:05):
I can't wait cover today. I was popping popcorn for that.
I was like, he's gonna say something stupid the Gate.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I just know it.

Speaker 1 (58:12):
Just we need to get Ben's on and see how
the how the Aaron Rodgers experience is going. Ben's just
Ben's has about as much patient patience as the average
of Pittsburgh.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
You're just going to say that he's such a hater.

Speaker 4 (58:23):
He is.

Speaker 8 (58:24):
He is such a hater. It's gonna be amazed like this.
He do it because he wakes up angry that little.

Speaker 1 (58:32):
Than that little guy he just kissed. Still angry ball
I hate.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
Is what he is.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
It makes us sound really nice when we have angry
balls of hate.

Speaker 8 (58:44):
Oh he is too. And he's a small guy. We
used to I used to do a show with a
guy that we used to call the little ball of hate.
That's what Jim's, a little ball of hate.

Speaker 1 (58:51):
Wasn't that a woman that was a woman wasn't it.

Speaker 4 (58:53):
Yeah, woman.

Speaker 8 (58:56):
Jen what was her last name? Oh my got a
blanket at Her husband was a beat writer for the Cowboys. Anyway,
no one cares, but anyway she was.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
I remember I think I was on the show with you.

Speaker 4 (59:06):
Yeah, I was on a show with you.

Speaker 14 (59:07):
She is me I gave the first day I went
went to my general manager like, are you serious of this?
She was angry, good thing jan Angle.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
She was a little We called her the little ball
of hate.

Speaker 6 (59:22):
She was.

Speaker 4 (59:23):
That's that's Ben's.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
That's Ben's and he'll be more and more so every day.
Him and Mark mad Aaron Rodgers being Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 8 (59:31):
Anyway, you want to see some fun, that's gonna be.

Speaker 4 (59:33):
Big fire works there, all right.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Tell people about John london Leash and how people can
listen and watch you.

Speaker 8 (59:40):
Yeah, lots, I've been speaking of a little balls of hate,
lots of lots of love from Seattle lately.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
It's been very nice to find love, find love.

Speaker 8 (59:47):
Ye if I did not lay on the sarcasm, thinking enough,
I need to work on it. But uh at John
lond unleast John lond unleashed on YouTube and John Lendunleash
dot com and and thank you for that. I appreciate.
I'm come on, even if you didn't plug me, this
was my light of myriad life.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
Well, well, you're giving away thirteen percent to Gavin News
him every day, so yeah, you probably.

Speaker 8 (01:00:10):
Real quick. I know you got to go, but you
don't care about the clock that I seem to something
like any thing or something. But what was that? What
was that thing about?

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
Yeah? I was there, I was there, I got nominated.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
There, I got nominated. I got nominated. Yeah yeah, yeah,
two time nominee, two time loser. Really yeah, we lost
and we lost. It happens. Well, the best thing is is, uh,
the president of the crack and came up to me yesterday,
congratulations miammy, and I go, yeah, I didn't win.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
He goes, well, no, I guess you guys won, did
I go?

Speaker 8 (01:00:41):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
The in game broadcast, dude, the pregame show did not well.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
Also, John, he's not telling you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
The best part is that they won the previous two years,
and then previous three years, and then Ian's first year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
They didn't win.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
So yeah, oh my god, yeah that is.

Speaker 8 (01:00:57):
Let me get this straight. The in game broadcast win,
and the pre always wins until you get there. That's
the story.

Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Yes, that is exactly what happens.

Speaker 8 (01:01:09):
I'm just you know, I talk about firings and stuff
like that. Boy, that's if I don't know. That's some
riding on the ball right there. I mean, there's got
to be some people around the big mahogany table going.
That'll happened here. What's the different, you know, like Sesame Street.

Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
But it's funny you say that. Now now they think
about him. Still wait for that contract extension, so I
might be doing it. I'll be doing Ian Ferness on
the least here pretty quick. All right, appreciate the end
of the show here today.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
Thanks. Uh well, I hope you.

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
Guys got nominated. That's all that counts, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
That's what my wife said.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
Wow a right, you've got to today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
You got nominated. I'm like, yeah I did. That's great. Okay,
thanks a lot. Now I feel really good about myself.
We'll take a break, mean me or may not check
the text.

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I don't have a computer. I put it away. So
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You, Keith.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
I think he just listens for me.

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Probably right, sounds about right true, probably very true.

Speaker 5 (01:03:59):
Let's see two six. Welcome back, Jess, hanging there and
all the best, thank you?

Speaker 12 (01:04:04):
And can I just interject here because our buddy Jim
Moore wrote a very nice column while I was out
and a lot of people reached out to me because
he gave out my personal information.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
As only Jim Moore would. And I got the nicest.

Speaker 12 (01:04:19):
The nicest messages from all the listeners out there, and
obviously I was unplugged for quite a while.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I wanted to thank all of you.

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I got a.

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Few cards delivered to the station as well, from people
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So I just wanted to thank everybody out there who.

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Did we missed you, Jess to another different to us, six,
I've missed your big laughs in the background, Jess. Love
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Jess cackling the background is the funniest part of this interview.

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There you go.

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I'm sorry, it just comes out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
I needed to lauggle like that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
That's true from Kirsten in the two five three sending
love to Jessner family. So wonderful to hear your sweet
voice back on KJR.

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
I thank you just so.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
I want to stay on the clock here and beyond time. Yes,
because now that Jess is back, we've got to make
sure we're all buttoned down.

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
Yes, the watcher is back, button down.

Speaker 4 (01:05:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
And I think you know, everyone expresses their condolences. It's
been hard, obviously for Jessner family. People don't know if
they're just tuning in just say no. I'll say it
probably easier for me too. Just his sister died suddenly
a couple of weeks ago at the age of thirty eight,
a couple of young kids, and so you and your
husband Mike, we're back east with family taking care of
things back there. I've just a horrible, tragic situation. You
got to spend some time with your niece and nephew

(01:05:43):
and your family obviously being together, but a really tough
time for Jessner family. And listen, you know we all
supported you and said, you know, we'll see you. When
we see you, we won't bother you. In the meantime,
a lot of things needed to be taken care of,
as you saw when I sent you an actual email today.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Send an email.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
I did, I send an email.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
Still sent me to voicemail this morning, though.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
Hey, not much this. Listen, this fat old man sometimes
has to go to the gym. And when I was
if I get if once I get there, which I
do three four days a week, I was there and
I just I saw that, and I said, I some
people can talk when they're working out. Yeah, I'm pretty
much dying. I don't want to use that word, but

(01:06:28):
I'm like, I'm like out of brassy.

Speaker 4 (01:06:30):
Yeah, we got drugs? Is on? Like, no, that wouldn't
be a firend.

Speaker 5 (01:06:36):
I told my dad sometimes and he's on a run
and it's like, okay, don't don't talk to me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
I see these people. I see these people like on
high settings, on elliptical machines or different things, and they're
just like going just crazy. What do you want to
And they're talking on the phone like hey, yeah, no,
there's just one dude that's there all the time, and
he's like, nobody cares about your business. Fella, like, I
don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:06:55):
You work out with your son?

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
What's that?

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Do you work out with your son?

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
No, listen, I feel bad enough about myself as it is.
Do you think I'm gonna do that? I mean, I
just get absolutely pummeled to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Help me help you sort of situation.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
I don't know. He you know what he is. He's
a good slipper. He goes heye you go today like
he always there's a there's a commitment thing, always that
yeah I'm there, blah blah blah. So no, I do not.
He's he works out at a different level than I do.

Speaker 12 (01:07:23):
Just's he's graduated from college football.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
And he's trying to become a firefighter. Yes, so like
he's wearing fast and he's wearing the weight fast times too.
That I wore when I blew my niscus out loud, So.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
One last one from the two six.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
Also, I know and understand your feelings on the text line, Ian,
but it is Is it still okay to say that
I hate the OKAC Thunder?

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
No, that's negative.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Oh wow, all flowers, that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:48):
Sounds the Okac thunder. And you can say Portland sucks.

Speaker 1 (01:07:52):
They don't play till tomorrow. No tomorrow.

Speaker 12 (01:07:54):
Oh, the NBA goes forever. They do it on purpose.
They play like every week. I mean not really, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
Every it's like three. Do you like that?

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
It means anyhow place Thursday. I couldn't watch the mor anyway, solf. Okay,
Softie's gonna join us. Coming up next, Well, we're back
at the Virginia Mason Athletic Center. We are, Dave Softie
Maller just got inside. He's been out tracking and oh God,

(01:08:21):
and keeping track of who's here, who's not, what the
notations are.

Speaker 4 (01:08:26):
Yes, he's doing all that.

Speaker 9 (01:08:28):
I do have my top seventeen things I observed from
the last hour of Seahawk Mediamp. We'll we're reporting on
that coming up at four o'clock this afternoon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
I thought, at seven, you're doing a special pot. No, no, no,
that's not happen like bet and you are doing one.
So no, I I do get a kick out of
And in their defense, it's kind of their job. You
show up here and you see Curtis Crabtree, you see
Michael Sean Dugar, you see Bob Candota, and they've got
their little notepads and they're furiously writing down every number
of every player to make sure everybody is here. Yes, right, yes, which.

Speaker 9 (01:08:58):
Like you would think the PR staff could say, you
know what, let us do your solid Joe blow is
not here today.

Speaker 4 (01:09:03):
Don't worry about it.

Speaker 9 (01:09:05):
But they need something to do while they're standing out
there roasting their balls off.

Speaker 2 (01:09:08):
Yes, and they I mean I always like doing that
because it is the sun.

Speaker 4 (01:09:12):
So did you really enjoy doing that? I don't think
you did.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
It's kind of like it's playing where's out there?

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Well, here's the thing. Nowadays, you're not allowed to tweet
it out until after that's right, So why that's right?
You know what I would do, Wait till Bob tweets
it out and go you can confirm that's right.

Speaker 4 (01:09:29):
Should be the reporter, Let somebody else, Let somebody else
do the work.

Speaker 9 (01:09:33):
You know, I just realized something. By the way, welcome back,
by the way, Yess, I just realized, so freakishly small
your feet are mine?

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
Yeah? Really that's big. Those don't look like a size
nine to me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:46):
I'm quite as you know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:48):
What it is. I'll tell you what it is. I
I know exactly what it is.

Speaker 9 (01:09:53):
Compared to Fernessa's giant.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
He's got you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Have way bigger you your.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Size are you? I'm a ten and a half. Yeah,
you're you're a gigantic. You know what they say. You
know what they say, it's something wrong with.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
You, don't anything.

Speaker 9 (01:10:07):
Big feet, big shoes, that's what they say. What they say, Yeah,
that's what they said.

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
I just wanted to confirm.

Speaker 4 (01:10:12):
You want to make a weier joke?

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
Oh my god, he brought it up.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
What are you talking about? Welcome back you big shoes,
big ween? Or have you heard that one? You know what, Jess,
you know what's funny about that?

Speaker 9 (01:10:25):
He actually used to use that line when he was
in high school at a day to walk around the hallways.

Speaker 4 (01:10:29):
And I did, what baby, big shoes big you know what?
Actually didn't use that at O day. That's how we
got Tammy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Let me emphasize that again, not a day, not no
day when she had holy names?

Speaker 4 (01:10:46):
Was this like a little like a mixer or something
after school?

Speaker 9 (01:10:48):
She's from Alabama and I know that they so she
would fall for that from Alabama?

Speaker 4 (01:10:54):
Then guess what? Maybe big shoes? I want to go out.
It took her six years to date me, so I
think you miss us? By the way, didn't you miss that?
Are you kidding me? What's the thing? I'm really really?

Speaker 1 (01:11:06):
God?

Speaker 4 (01:11:07):
What?

Speaker 12 (01:11:07):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
What do I look forward to the most when I
come back?

Speaker 4 (01:11:10):
This is what happens? Softy HR staff on site?

Speaker 14 (01:11:15):
Yes or anything?

Speaker 4 (01:11:16):
Get away with whatever you want?

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
Is there anything? What in San Antonio?

Speaker 4 (01:11:20):
Do you have no idea?

Speaker 14 (01:11:21):
You do?

Speaker 4 (01:11:21):
What's going You've been contacted by him for a long
time a situation. Yeah, it's been a few years.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
What was the last time they called.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
You for HR? Twenty years ago? Maybe two buildings ago?

Speaker 9 (01:11:34):
Definitely definitely too maybe you Oh, I can't talk about that.
That was part of the agreement I mentioned, Yes, I said,
he said yes, the gas did say that.

Speaker 4 (01:11:46):
Actually the deal with a federal government.

Speaker 9 (01:11:48):
Back in the day, when I first got into this job,
I decided to make some crack about the election and
uh whatever, Well, oh, actually it was a dumb thing
for me to say, and I will not feed it
on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:12:01):
Don't make any threats or even Joy.

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Talks about how the revance between your you know, small
feet and other things.

Speaker 4 (01:12:10):
That's fine, that's totally okay.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
You say that word on the air.

Speaker 4 (01:12:15):
Aut I just said it. We're talking about hot dog oscar. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
It's summer works.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
For Alex meyer Wiener, the PR guy over there are
the widers from heaven a PR.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
His name is mayor.

Speaker 4 (01:12:31):
Alex of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:12:34):
What do you have coming up today?

Speaker 4 (01:12:36):
This is what happens when you sit outside and your
brain is melthing your top seventeen takeaways?

Speaker 9 (01:12:40):
Yes, I'll get you that. I might find eighteen. I
might mix something up. By four o'clock this afternoon, let's see,
Jerry Brewer will join us. Actually at four, Uh, Jerry Brewer,
come on, has a weekly I don't even that?

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Can't please do it?

Speaker 9 (01:12:52):
Come on, Jerry Brewer coming up at four. Let's talk
about what else is today? John the owners. At five,
Brian Schmitts will join us and talk about how they
got their ass kicked by a soccer team with like
half their roster available. Yes on Sunday, Yeah right, and
then we may hear from Danny Sprinkle. It depends on
if this Desmond Claude kid they signed from usc Uh.

(01:13:15):
He's got to turn his paperwork in before you can
talk about him, So.

Speaker 4 (01:13:18):
We'll see un till July first.

Speaker 9 (01:13:19):
Oh yeah, but he's got till six pm and n
if we're gonna do the interview with his coach, was
just that done? You know there's a denam you should
tell him. Come on, dude, get off your tuck us
and sign that deal. Sign that deal. Sign that deal.
Then we can talk to your head coach anyway. Give
me Jerry Frewin, Nope, got nothing for you complete.

Speaker 4 (01:13:34):
You don't deserve it. You've been very mean to make
you know what Nope Chest deserves, you know, give it
to her that I know. I don't want it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
I don't want it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
Anything that you have to give I don't want.

Speaker 4 (01:13:43):
That's it good because I'm giving you nothing anyway.

Speaker 7 (01:13:45):
See him for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable Inverness.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
This is paddled Day saying so long everyone
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