Furness Show 6-16: Mariners Sweep, Mollywhop Monday, Club World Cup.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mariners get wins on the weekend. Back to that in
just a couple of seconds, we we will get in.
We're mollywhopping today. It's a Monday. And you know, Greg
was asking me, Greg Belt with all the g's bell
could have him back. Greg was asking me about the
you know how the mullywhoppers, what whoppers will be? And
I said, well, keep in mind what happened earlier in

(00:20):
the week, Like we had two sweeps last week, a
good one and a bad one, right, Like, what a
weird week for the baseball team. The thing that's best
about what happened, it's a damn good thing they swept
the Guardians. Because if you're paying attention at all, I
know it's early, but if you're paying attention at all,

(00:41):
our friends, the Houston Astros, uh, they're on a little
bit of a heater right now. They're on a wee
bit of a heater right now. And so if the
Mariners don't that was the thing. Now, I'll be honest
with you, I had a lot going on this weekend,
so I wasn't watching baseball a lot much at all.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
That's why I have my Mauli Wappers here to help
me out.

Speaker 1 (00:59):
But I did glance down today and I go, god,
they're probably a lot of game game and a half out. Now, No,
there's still four and a half out. Why, well, I
don't know. This other team that is in your divisions
won five straight games. And by the way, here come
the Texas Rangers, winners a four straight as well.

Speaker 3 (01:12):
You play an after the Twins series.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Yes, so it's getting a little a little little bit
of log jam there in the American League West, A
little dose or reality for the Angels, who were tied
going into the weekend with the Mariners for second place
in the AL West.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
They lose three in a row.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
And we won't even mention the team that plays not
in the Bay Are anymore. They've Sacramento somewhere. But yeah,
we'll get to that Multamali wopper. Guys, there's a lot
going on to get to. Obviously, the Devons straight Logan
Gilbert coming back. Randy Rose Raina continues to heat up
a little bit, even without getting a hit yesterday. He
made a big impact in the game offensively by getting
on base, and yes, on base percentage does matter. Get

(01:50):
on steel. He's fourteen for fourteen steels this year is
a Rosarina. So there's a lot to get to with that,
But yeah, I think what we're setting up for is
that is it's probably it's laughable to see, you know,
three and three. You know, a three and three week
when you have a series sweep to finish the week,
it's weird, but it also kind of explains what baseball is.

(02:13):
That the ups and downs, the ebbs and ups, the
peaks and valleys you're going to have during the course
of a season. You just have to survive. They were
on the ropes, make no mistake, Like, we can paint
the prettiest picture in the world if we want. They
were on the ropes coming in this weekend against the
Cleveland team that's pretty good, and lo and behold they
come away with the sweep. And in a couple you

(02:36):
know cases on like Saturday, kind of like how that happened?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Like what happened? And how that happened? Come from behind?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Random stat of the day. Yeah, I don't know if
you listened to the postcast on that day.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
I did not get a chance to. Sorry.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
According to a couple people, and I think we confirmed
that this is true. Since the start of the twenty
twenty fourth season, the Cleveland Guardians when leading after the
eighthning or one hundred and twelve and oh whoa one
hundred and twelve and oh until Saturday night?

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Do they have a hammer closer?

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Manuel CLASSI best closing game? Oh class? Okay, yeah, yeah,
do they have it? Well, that can't just be it.
They must have a couple set up, guys. I mean
the guys are really good.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
And just they're they're they're a really good team.

Speaker 5 (03:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
And you know who's actually second best record in that
time Seattle?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Well, I mean if you've got the top two closers
of the game, he probably should be, especially if they're
used as they should be.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Any boy started, any.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Boy Andress hasn't pitched a week, so.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know I've I was part of that text chain.
Sometimes that's the best way for me to keep up
today on how things are going.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
But that was a massive win, man, Like, oh yeah,
that that everything? Like, I don't I don't think winning
just two out of three would have been sufficient enough.
I think getting the sweep is huge.

Speaker 1 (03:55):
Well, yeah, Saturday was the key, right, is what you're saying? Yeah,
Saturdays the key, because like yesterday was just an ass
kicking I mean they just come out, thanks for coming
to shut out.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
They get they get that job done.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
But yeah, the Saturday game to come from behind, because
then you're going into Sunday with a different field if
it's one and one, and at that point and that
point in the week, you're you have a one in
four week, you know, and you have you're staring at
a possibility. But one and five week coming off what
happened the previous weekend, and it's just been a massive struggle.
So yeah, no, there's no doubt they got to going
a round. So we'll talk to Nate and Chris about
that coming up to able to quick daily power play.

(04:25):
Perhaps at one I'm not sure. We may end up
going two segments with Mully whoppers. It's fine, Hockey's tomorrow,
uh basketball tonight? Just a quick thought and get I'll
get more of this at two o'clock. Boy, both leagues
just dropped the ball, Like both the NHL and the
NBA just dropped the ball, Like what are you doing
leading Father's Day to the US Open and nothing else?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
We World Cup?

Speaker 1 (04:46):
Okay, we will definitely get into that. You cannot leave
that Sunday available. And the thing is with the NHL
and the NBA. They scheduled together for the finals. Sandy
Cup final and the NBA finals are scheduled together. Hell,
they do their best to try to keep the conference
finals from going ahead to head with each other. They
do a great job. It's really kind of a nice partnership.

(05:07):
And it's frankly, it's the it's the Gary Bettman David
Stern relations for years and years ago. But they but
to leave that date open and to have a game
on a Monday and a Tuesday instead, it's just it's
mind boggling to me. It's also what pisses me off
about the Club World Cup, which I we'll get to
that later.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
We'll get to that later.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
We're gonna have a bit of a discussion on that one.

Speaker 6 (05:29):
I could hear and before he spent random random, I'll
just leave it with this till two o'clock.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Random streaming services and paywalls are not good for business.
They just aren't. They're not good for now. I know
FIFA doesn't give a rats ask about this country, so
I get that. Uh and and but if you want
to grow the game in this country, there's no paywall.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
It's random straight streaming service is what I said too.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Yeah, it is the most random streaming service ever, by.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
The way, I mean if it's free, I'm not complaining.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
If it's hard and it was hard to depending on
your service you had, that's the problem. Yeah, like some
in Yeah, it's just like I could get whatever the
hell it is to b freebee, free form, blah blah blah,
everything like that without doing anything. That one my twenty
two year old who does all that stuff like you
guys do. You can figure it out for a while.

(06:17):
Most and probably part of was the Exfinity part, but
then we'll get to that later. Okay, are the mollywop
guys have we logged on yet? Are they on the
stream yard yet? Are they standing by? They might be
there yelling at each other, who knows. We'll check in
with Nathan and Chris. We are mollywopping after a sweep
by the Mariners.

Speaker 7 (06:33):
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(06:53):
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Speaker 2 (07:07):
It's always amazing.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
You always know it's an interesting week in Marrion baseball
when I have people randomly asked me in time, Hey,
what do you think the mollywhoppers are going to say today?
What do you are they on today? What do you
think is gonna happen today? And last week might be
the most mollywop week we could ever have gizophrenic as
you could ever imagine a baseball team to be. Whereas

(07:32):
as of Thursday, we could have easily done an emergency session.
Easily could have done an emergency session. I thought about it, briefly,
said no, we'll wait until Monday, and then four days later,
here we are, and lo and behold a nice little
sweep of the Cleveland Guardians by the Los Marineros.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
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Speaker 1 (07:53):
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Chris Crawford is here. Let me just see on the names.

(08:15):
Let's see Jessamins on the stream yard case of the Mondays.
Nathan has Nathan got the most creative today, just says Nathan.

Speaker 2 (08:25):
And trade for Raffi devers Ian Toro Toro Torol homecoming
night tonight. We all excited about Abrahan Torel coming back tonight, right,
aren't we? Okay?

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Good legend if we can just him canzone on the
same field, I mean, just doesn't get any better. And
the last guy looking for something to do Tuesday afternoon?

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Are you looking for something to do tomorrow? Chris?

Speaker 8 (08:53):
I'm bored, man, I need something to do tuesday afternoon.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
All right, well it's done. I'm gonna take tomorrow off.
You want to work, you want to do the show?

Speaker 5 (09:01):
Perfect?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Then we just finished that off, Jess. He's some program directors.
She can make a call.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
You did my job for me, thank you, and yes done.

Speaker 5 (09:10):
Concept negotiations.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
I've had in a while, we'll pay you in some
stale cookies left over from Rosars or Dismores or something
out there that I.

Speaker 8 (09:18):
Still I still have them from leftover from the last
time I did it perfectly.

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Love well, boys, what a week started out something else
and it's something else as well.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Three and three.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
When it's all said and done, we'll put it to
the wordsmith here, Nathan Bishop, fire away with your opening statement.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Well, I'm pretty.

Speaker 10 (09:37):
Sure that we ended last week. You asked us what
we wanted to see in the upcoming week, and Chris
said four and two, and I said three and three.
So I'm perfectly content. I don't see Chris is probably
gonna come in here and be all negative and do
that whole thing because they did not need his high
exacting standards for the team. They didn't exactly what I
wanted them to do. They went three and three and
in a very normal fashion. I'm very excited for tonight's game.

(10:02):
I think that Ian, you're a profit in a way
you don't fully understand.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
I think the.

Speaker 10 (10:06):
Mariners will lose today off of a big home run
from Abraham Toro, and then the Mariors will trade a
relief pitcher for Abraham Toro after the game today, we
can right the wrong bring Abraham back into the fold,
because we're certainly not going to get any better player
than Abraham Toro, not that any of.

Speaker 5 (10:23):
Those would ever be available or traded anyway.

Speaker 10 (10:26):
All that to say, I thought it was a perfectly
Mariners week. You already said schizophrenic. That's a great way
to put it. I don't think that really defines what
this team is, because up until this past weekend, this
team sucked for an entire month. They were unwatchable, they
played bad teams. The few games they won they barely won.
But to their credit, I think I wrote about this

(10:46):
last week at the end of the week that this
team has gone through June glooms more years than not
in the past, and there have been times I distinctly
remember in twenty twenty two coming on this show when
the team was ten games under five hundred and saying
they're screwed. This regime is a failure. We need to
just cut bait and stop right now. And then they
won fourteen games in a row and went to the playoffs.

(11:07):
This group of players, whatever you want to say, the
leadership core of this is Julio, JP cal Rawly, whoever
it is, it was Mitch Haniger back in the day.
When they get their backup against the wall, they fight,
and they fought hard this weekend and they played their
best series that they've played in a month. So and
now they get to play the Boston Red Sox without

(11:28):
Raphael Devers for three days. So things are looking up.
It could be just okay, and they need to keep
this up because this schedule is brutal and the Houston
Astros will not lose.

Speaker 5 (11:38):
Baseball games, which is very frustrating.

Speaker 1 (11:42):
Chris Crawford disappointed. And you won four and two, you
only got three and three.

Speaker 8 (11:46):
Yeah, I only got three and three And there was
no drama whatsoever to get that five hundred record whatsoever.
To quote a little known movie called The Godfather, I
think it's called just when I think I'm out, they
pulled me back in. Like I was really worried about
this baseball team after that serious against the Diamondbacks, like

(12:06):
the walkoff Grand Slam, the questionable bullpen usage, the tons
of hits that they were picking up, but the inability
to drive absolutely anybody in. And then you go and
you win a quality game on Friday, you break a
one hundred and twelve game winning streak for the Cleveland
Guardians when they were up in the eighth and eighth,

(12:28):
and then you get a very complete win on Sunday.
This team is really all and it is. You see
the proof of concept both ways, right, You see the
proof of concept of what can go wrong and why
this team could easily be a seventy five win team.
But I also saw over the weekend the proof of

(12:48):
concept of what can be a ninety win team that
wins this division. Now, as Nathan brings up the Houston
Astros aka Satan's favorite baseball team need to start losing
some baseball games, and the Seattle Mariners will have a
chance to beat that baseball game team pretty soon. I'm
sure hoping that takes place anyway, but it just you know,
we are creatures of where we could just react to

(13:10):
what we just saw. And that's my favorite part about
this show, right, is that we get to take the
bitter and the better and apply it. That series against
the Arizona Diamondbacks was incredibly bitter, but I enjoyed the
heck out of that series. Excuse me, that series against
the Diamondbacks was incredibly bitter. That series against the Guardians
was an awful lot of fun. And now we get
to see Logan Gilbert pitch in a baseball game. That's

(13:31):
pretty cool too.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
We'll get to him in a second. Crys will stay
with you, and then Nathan jump in schizophrantic whatever you
want to call it, you know, getting swept and then
getting a sweep and back and forth. There's two things
that could be that could just you guys could just
tell me, Hey, that's baseball, you know, one hundred and
sixty games, go up and down, all that kind of stuff.
But with this particular team, and again, all we can do,

(13:52):
all we can do, Anders is tell us what the
film says. No, that's great, close seal. Sorry, all we
can do is all we can do is react to
the week. That was, right, Chris, Are they closer to
the team the first half of the week or the
second half of the week. If and I'm gonna ask you, guys,
I'll tell you right now, this will be a question
we'll have all year long.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
What team is this?

Speaker 8 (14:12):
Yeah, that's a great question because.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
Professional talk show host here, that's professional talk shows.

Speaker 8 (14:20):
I'll work on not doing that on Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Sorry about that.

Speaker 8 (14:23):
You can make up for it later in the week.
You're asking me almost whether or not they're closer to
one hundred and sixty two and oh or in one
hundred and sixty two, you know, in a weird way
because three and oh and oh and three that's what
you'd be on face for. I think they're closer to
the team that we saw against the Guardians. I think
they're closer to that because of what I saw from

(14:45):
the lineup one through five through that weekend, what I
saw from the top guys and in particular or Hey Polanco,
and also what I saw from the starting pitching. Like
George Kirby didn't have near his best command, he still
give you five innings of two run baseball. Emerson Hancock
was fan fantastic yesterday, seven innings of shutout baseball. I'm

(15:05):
feeling more and more confident in him as a starting pitcher.
And now you're getting Logan Gilbert back, and Logan Gilbert
is one of the top five starting pitchers in baseball.
Now we'll see if there's a lull like we had
with George Kirby, and I know we'll talk about that
in a second, but That's why I'm confident in this team,
because Luis Castillo has been a really solid performer, Brian
wu has been a solid performer, and now I'm starting

(15:26):
to trust Emerson Hancock a heck of a lot more
than I did at the beginning of the year. It
makes me most believe that they are closer to the
team with that faced the Guardians over the weekend. But
there is a nice, healthy spoonful of that team that
played against the Divingbacks as well. Who looks they lost
an extra inning game, a couple of closer games, one

(15:48):
blowout that wasn't day absolute, they got shoved, but you
still lost all three, right, So I will go with
that Cleveland series just barely. But the fact that there
is some volatility that they showed against the Diamondbacks can't
be ignored either.

Speaker 10 (16:04):
Jason Well, I think we need to be clear that,
regardless of whatever your religious beliefs or karma or whatever
it is, the Aohaniel Grand Slam had to happen. There's
no point in getting upset about it. It just had
to sort of wash over you and you just had
to smile and accept that that is exactly what everybody
involved in that trade deserved to have happened. I think

(16:24):
it's an eighty five win team. I think that that's
exactly what they are. They're slightly above five hundred. I
think that you can very easily look at this lineup
and be like, oh my god, this is a disaster
if cal Raly and JP Crawford aren't hitting. But to
Chris's point, Jorge Polonko is probably the lynchpin in this lineup,
and he has looked so much better the last week
or ten days. I continue to think the thing that

(16:47):
really drives this offense is their ability to draw walks.
There's so many below average hitters here that if they
don't get on base via the walk, they just have
a really hard time stringing together hits. I felt, even
when they were playing terribly over the past month, I
was not willing to call them dead for two reasons. One,
I really don't think the Houston Astros are particularly good,
and again, if there is any justice or karmic rightness

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in this world, they will come back down to earth
at some point. And two, to Chris's point, this team
is all about its rotation, and they are getting as
close to getting that rotation back together as they have
had it all year, and that I am highly skeptical
that Dom can Zone and his friends are going to
put together a competent lower half Major League Baseball lineup

(17:31):
for the rest of the season. I'm even more skeptical
that the people in charge will be able to identify
quality hitters and add them to this roster because they're
bad at it and we know that they are.

Speaker 11 (17:40):
But I think this.

Speaker 10 (17:41):
Rotation can carry them to a mid possibly upper eighties
win season. I think with this rotation healthy and performing there,
I still think they're the best team in the American
League West.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Chris Crawford, Nathan Bishop, Molly Want Monday brought to you
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thread with some of us. It's called Hockey. Boys were
talking not baseball. We talk hockey. It includes the great
Mike Benton and Nathan asked not to be on that

(18:14):
thread because he's he opted out of that one. But
on that if I want to go with the hockey
theme for a second, because there was interesting week guys
in a lot in terms of who kind of helped out,
Like and who was Chris?

Speaker 2 (18:26):
We won't go all three stars, but who's your first
star of the week who was a little important?

Speaker 5 (18:30):
Gotta be JP Crawford.

Speaker 8 (18:32):
It's got to be the way JP Crawford is playing
right now, Like and Anders and I gotten a little
bit of an argument about this. His defense still needs
a lot of work, and the metrics really don't like him.
It doesn't matter with how well he's playing offensively right now,
like he is just slashing the baseball. And the big
thing was that grand slam, which was one of my
favorite moments of the year by far on his first

(18:53):
Father's Day. Are you freaking kidding me? That was absolutely
special stuff. But the fact that he is starting to
pull the baseball a little more and you have to
give there's a reason to be a little more careful
with JP Crawford.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
Now.

Speaker 8 (19:05):
You can't just throw the ball in that lower part
of the play and think that he's not going to
pull it over the fence. He can do that. He
is capable of doing that right now. I would say
that he would have to be your ultimate number one
star right now because what he is doing to set
the table, and also when he got the chance to
drive in all of those runs. He did it and

(19:26):
then some like It was a massive moment that basically
guaranteed a Seattle Mariner win. There was no way that
the Guardians were going to get anything close to five
runs with how good Emerson Hancock pitch. But JP Crawford
has been playing at a superb level and real quick.
Just an encouragement for everybody. Jacob Wilson's leading the All
Star vote and you know deservedly, So go vote for

(19:48):
JP Crawford for the All Star game. Man he absolutely
is deserving of consideration. And if you get him high enough,
the managers will look and say, Okay, we need to
get this guy on the team. That is absolutely a
real saying. So go vote for JP Crawford for the
All Star.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
I'm going somewhere with this three star, so I'm gonna
continue just for a second, all right, So JP Crawford
first Star, Nathan You and Nottings you agree, who's the
second star Nathan of the week.

Speaker 10 (20:10):
I'm gonna go the number to say that Randy of
Rose Arena was the best second best hitter of the week.
After a JP, I'm gonna go with Julio Rodriguez because
he's finally seen some BABA progression, he's still not walking
nearly as much. And look, I get the whole thing
with Julio and why people get frustrated with his offense
is probably unless he really explodes like Cal Rawly did
this year, it's probably always going to feel like there's

(20:31):
meat left on that bone. But I keep harping on
it every single week. This guy hit three seventy last week,
he had a one to fifty six WRC plus, and
he just continues to be maybe the best defensive outfielder
in the American League. And I think that right now,
the conversation about who's the best outfielder in the American
League is clearly Aaron Judge, and I think the second

(20:52):
best outfielder is Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 5 (20:53):
And I think that that's just the way that it is.

Speaker 10 (20:55):
And if you don't like how it looks, I think
that if Julio Rodriguez played right field and hit forty
home runs a year and put up exactly the same
kind of value stats that we see by more advanced metrics,
nobody would care. He's just doing it in a way
you did not expect. So realign your expectations. Understand that
this guy is one of the best outfielders in baseball
right now the way that he's playing.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Just real quick.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
This guy has disappointed, disappointed to being the seventeenth most
valuable player according to war According to fangrafs, he is
disappointed to being a top twenty player in baseball.

Speaker 11 (21:30):
That is nuts.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
That's where I was going with this. By the way,
was Juli. I was waiting to see if he was
two or three, so I know he was going to
be on that list. That's why I want to set
you guys up with that and Israel fast who's numb
three starts.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
I'm gonna come back to Hlo on a second.

Speaker 3 (21:41):
You could easily shout out Emerson Hancock. It's just hard
for me for an entire week to put a guy
who pitched one game or maybe even two. So I'm
gonna go Jodey Plonko. I think we kind of mentioned it.
He's the lynchpin of this offense. It's so crazy how
one player going versus not is the difference between us
feeling confident about this entire line up, And that's kind
of what it feels like with him. So if he

(22:02):
continues to just be. He doesn't have to be the
April Rgete Polanco, just be the seven eighty to eight
hundred oh ps guy. And started playing second base too,
by the way, so that's an encouraging sign that he's
getting healthier and healthier.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
So yes, because that that is a that has been
a black hole, has that second base position. There's no
doubt about that. Okay, we'll come back to Julio. And
that's why I want to go to that. Luke Arkin's big,
big baseball. How would we describe Luke Chris.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
Awesome guy, tremendous human being, and it's just an absolute
awesome guy applying the numbers that he gets and putting
him in a excellent way.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
I really like Luke Arkins.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
And so he's actually on with Greg tomorrow, Greg and
Chris tomorrow on their show on their show tomorrow fantastic.
But I want to I want to bring that up
just because he wrote the story today about Julio and
it was exactly that what you guys just reference. I
his thing is called defending Julio Rodriguez. God, for the
life of me, what is wrong with this town?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
Chris? Like, what the hell is wrong with the city.

Speaker 8 (23:00):
It's we love to be the city that if you
are not that superstar, if you are not that Ken
Griffey Junior, if you are not that Gary Payton, if
you are not that Lauren Jackson, if you are not
that Clint Dempsey, then you shouldn't make a whole heck

(23:20):
of a lot of money. It's just the way that
it feels like sometimes is that anytime a guy gets
his And it's the same thing with Luis Castill. The
amount of complaining I hear about Luis Castille, who is
one of the most consistent starting pitchers in all of
baseball and has done nothing but succeed for the overwhelming
majority of his time as the Seattle Mariner, has felt

(23:42):
like a complete disappointed to a large amount of what
I would argue is uneducated baseball fans. And it's really
frustrating because yet I'm frustrated that Onlio Rodriguez isn't driving
the baseball as much as I'd like, and I'm frustrated
that his swing decisions still leave a ton to be desired.
But baseball is a game that your defense and offense matter,

(24:05):
and your base running matters. The whole thing is a
whole package. And the whole package for Julio Rodriguez is
above average offensive player by WRC and by OPS plus
well above average base runner and as good of defense
as anyone not named Pete Crow Armstrong in the outfield.
That's a really, really good baseball player who is signed

(24:26):
to a perfectly reasonable contract. And oh, by the way,
none of you are paying for it, so calm down.
It's just insane how little we appreciate how good Julio
Rodriguez is. And he's also a guy who's finished in
the top ten in MVP voting twice, like this is
not like a guy who has never lived up to expectations.

(24:48):
His offense has regressed in a way, not in a way.
It's regressed since his first couple of years, and that's frustrating.
But the overall skill set of Julio Rodriguez, not just
the skill set, but the overall application of those skills
is really impressive, and we need to appreciate Julio Rodriguez.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Did he nail a Nathan anything you want to add
real quick?

Speaker 10 (25:09):
I just want to say he's a rich man's Mike Cameron.
And if you don't think that that's not an amazing
baseball player. As Chris said, you are an uneducated baseball fan. Like,
that's the skill set right there. Mike Cameron always felt
like he could have been a little bit better offensively,
but he never quite tapped into that upside. But he
was such a good defensive outfielder it didn't matter. And
that's Julio Rodriguez is one hundred and fifteen percent of

(25:30):
that skill set. So if that's as good as he
ever is, you have an amazing, borderline Hall of Fame
baseball player. And if that's not good enough for you,
or if you think he's overpaid because of that, just
you know, learn the game. Listen to the people that
know what they're talking about. I think Jochian's coming on tomorrow, right, so,
you know, listen to somebody who's got decades in the

(25:52):
game talk about it. All the people that know baseball
love Julio Rodriguez. So if you're not one of them,
you don't know baseball, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Well, I think it's I mean part of it. Two
is I mean, how much time he's what is he
thirty four, thirty five years old? He's not got much
time left? Oh wait, now.

Speaker 8 (26:07):
He's twenty four.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
I thought you were talking about Joe.

Speaker 8 (26:11):
She and a like, no, you're playing over.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Man, Joe. Joe's pushing the big five. Oh buddy, I'm sorry.
Is that Jeff Bezil's new wife. I'm sorry, you know,
I just to call.

Speaker 9 (26:21):
It my eye to I have to be completely honest.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yes, she loves him for his good lucks. Okay, I'm
sorry I.

Speaker 9 (26:29):
Was, And he loves her for her fillingthro That was.

Speaker 2 (26:32):
A random thought of mine, but that's yes.

Speaker 9 (26:35):
I looked overco Huh. Yeah, that is a human huh he.

Speaker 8 (26:39):
No wife, Thank you guys for giving me something to google.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Well, yeah, apparently the people in Venice do not want
their wedding to happen there.

Speaker 1 (26:48):
Should the marriage have gone after a good baseball player
for the Boston Red Sox and at what costs?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 1 (27:14):
Alright, a few more minutes of my want Monday by
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want fifteen to check out. There's two schools of thought
on the Raphael Devers trade front. One too high of
a cost, especially in terms of salary too, you don't
want any part of it too. You need better baseball
players that can hit a baseball, and you should have
gone got him if he was indeed available. Uh, Chris Crawford,

(27:37):
let me start with you.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
Yeah, So.

Speaker 8 (27:42):
I would have to say that those people who don't
want Raphael Devers just must really dislike the sport because
he is one of the most complete hitters in all
of baseball. And I got because I am famous, And
that's really the reason I'm hosting the show. We're trying
to get a little bit more credibility about like famous people.

(28:06):
It's fun to think in my head and shut up.
It's uh, it's kind of crazy. And a bunch of
people asked me, could the Mariners have done this deal?
And my answer was an emphatic yes and an emphatic no.
The emphatic yes is they could have matched that cost
without even trying, like it would have been super easy.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
The talent that the.

Speaker 8 (28:28):
Mariners could have offered over what the Giants did offer,
or even could have offered. Seattle Mariners have the huge advantage.
It's an emphatic noe because John Stanton ain't paying a
dude that much money in the middle of a season.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
It just ain't happening.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
That is not going to be a thing that just occurs, Like,
You're not going to see the Seattle Mariners acquire that
kind of salary in the middle of a season. It
will not happen. I was told by multiple people that
the Seattle Mariners never really got a chance to go
get RAFFI that the basically Buster Posey cold called the

(29:03):
Boston Red Sox offered the trade and the Boston Red
Sox were willing to do it. That is why I
am not throwing a huge fit here, because yeah, it
would have been nice for Jerry Depoto and Justin Holland
are to be a little proactive knowing if that guy
was available, but their owner was never gonna let it happen,
and they didn't even shop this thing around. They took

(29:24):
the deal.

Speaker 5 (29:25):
It happened.

Speaker 8 (29:26):
It's one of the most insane middle of the year
deals that I have ever seen. Even with the drama
involving devs, the Seattle Mariners absolutely could have done it.
The Seattle Manners absolutely should have done it, but the
Seattle Mariners, also on the other side of the spectrum,
absolutely could not have done it.

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Somebody tweeted to Nathan today, don't blame Mariners ownership or
front office at all. We don't want Devers anywhere near
the clubhouse. Of course, he famously said he didn't want
to play first space or whatever. Nathan responds, that's true.
It might be a tough culture fit having such a
good hitter here so many bad once. That caused the
coffee to be spit out this morning. I appreciate that

(30:05):
my wife did not all right Nathan's thoughts on that
Devers Uh, yeah.

Speaker 10 (30:10):
I think the whole thing with Devers is that he
wasn't comfortable with how the Red Sox were trying to
use him. Because the Red Sox hot mess it one
of the hottest messes of the twenty twenty five Major
League Baseball season. Though they are also have a pretty good, strong,
deep lineup. That must be really a tough thing to
not be able to figure out where to play Raphael Devers.

Speaker 5 (30:29):
The Mariners would suffer for no such issue.

Speaker 10 (30:31):
Should John Stanton miraculously suffer some like dude, like the
back to the future thing and slip on a toilet
and smack his head and wake up and realize he's
a billionaire. He can spend however much money he wants
on his baseball team and not care. Had the Mariners
acquired him, they could have put him at third base,
where they don't have a good baseball player. They could
have put him at first base, where they don't have
a good baseball player. They could have put him at
DH sometimes don't have a good baseball player. I mean, really,

(30:55):
they could have just said to Raffi, Raffie, where do
you want to play? Since you're one of the like,
I don't know, ten fifteen best hitters alive, Like, we
could sure use you for this year and the year
after and all the years to come. But it's depressing
to have this conversation because what Chris said, Yes, the
Mariners should have done this deal, and it's preposterous that
we continue.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
It's just preposterous.

Speaker 10 (31:16):
In twenty twenty five, after being told for half a
decade that the Mariners were holding back till the right time,
that it's clear there's no right time. There's no right
time We're never going to be that team that gets
to do cool stuff like ad Rafael Dever's at the
trade deadline because this organization's imagination and budget are too

(31:37):
finite and too small. Even though this is the only
franchise to never make a world series, they cannot conceive
of any risk and trying to bring us the fans
that have supported them for a half a century that
kind of experience. It's just not something that's realistic, and
that's a huge bummer.

Speaker 8 (31:54):
Well, can I talk about salaries just real quick? Yeah,
Like this really bugs me because and I'm not getting
political here or anything. Do people not get how inflation
with salaries works? Like, do you guys remember when people
threw a fit about five sixty five for Adrian Beltray
and how that was such a massive amount of money
And that's now what fitths starters get paid. Raphael devers

(32:15):
contract is not Raphael's Dever contract. Now, that amount of
money is going to be an above average salary by
the time it concludes. Like, this is not how it works.
Like just because he is making this exorbitant amount of
money in five years, that is not going to be
an exorbitant amount of money. Is not even going to
be close. And that's I think the most frustrating thing.

(32:38):
People talk about this being an underwater contract.

Speaker 5 (32:41):
Bull crap.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
It's going to be a perfectly fine contract for one
of the best hitters in baseball with salaries just going
to continue to rise. That is how this thing works.
So the chance to add a player like Raffie Devers
who they didn't give up top prospects for and now
they have under contract for a long time.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
No, that should be the benefit, not the detriment.

Speaker 8 (33:03):
That is a benefit to have a player like rapid
Devers locked up, not some sort of underwater thing. That's
bull crap.

Speaker 2 (33:11):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Save that passion when you're hosting a show one to
three tomorrow, sir, all right, let's get to tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
Tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Yeah, that's Tuesday, all right, we gotta go. By the way,
is Chris Benchin real quick to the dev style? If
if it was a cold call and there was no
chance anyway, then that that also comes into play. And
it's hard to blame a front office if there was
no opportunity.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
To till you got to do your due diligence.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Right, you gotta be thinking around. I mean, none of
us will ever know what's going on behind the scenes
in the records. But it sounds like I'll go with
Chris saying if it's if that's what happened, then you
can't really putting blame on Justin and Jerry. Okay, Nathan Bishop,
what can what do they do this week? Record wise?
And what where can we find your work?

Speaker 5 (33:50):
Oh Man?

Speaker 10 (33:50):
So you can check out my work at the lightbat
dot substack dot com twice weekly totally Free America's newsletter.
You are welcome to give me money for it if
you like, but it is not going to change your
user experience. I think that the team needs to go
four and two and start getting things moving in the
right direction. It's gonna be tough this week because the
schedule is about to get really tough. Three weeks at home,

(34:13):
three gamsen home against the Red Sox, and then off
to play the big mean National League on the road
in the Chicago Cups.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
All right, Chris, same question.

Speaker 8 (34:22):
You can follow my work at NBC sports Lash, Road
of World, you can follow it at Emerald City Spectrum,
and you can follow it on the Locked On Mariners
podcast going live with I don't even remember the guy's name.
But we go live after every single Seattle Mariner game
and it's really fun and we super appreciate the audiences
have been bonkers, man, like the amount of crowd that

(34:44):
we have seen in these game stuff. Maybe I'm just
used to my crappy channel only getting a few for
these live stuff, but it's been super awesome to see
that support, and super awesome to see the support of
the people who were live on Maya y coming just
showing for locked on Mariners as well. I really appreciate
you guys.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
Four and two week Yeah, sure, Okay.

Speaker 8 (35:04):
Well, by the way, Logan Gilbert, log Gilbert is gonna
pitch really well and I'm really excited for Logan.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
Gilbert, which we'll talk about next week.

Speaker 10 (35:10):
Yes, nathan Ian, I gotta go, but I know we
gotta go. But Raphaeldevers is six months younger than Evan White.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
I just want to get.

Speaker 11 (35:15):
That on there.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Mollie Wops in the book for this week. We thank
you very much. Stay tuned two o'clock hour next.

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Speaker 2 (35:34):
Hell Lines brought to you by Frost brewed cores, light shoes,
chill Mariners got their groove back of the weekend. So
with the Guardians. Yesterday I had six nothing win.

Speaker 11 (35:43):
J P.

Speaker 2 (35:44):
Crawford his first Father's Day.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
Dad strengths baby celebrated with a Grand Slam home run. Yeah,
that was dad's strength. Good news. JP doesn't help later
in life when they get better than you.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
Astro's unfortunately the same. They are five and four and
a half games up. They have won five straight games.
Seattle host Boston three game series and wrap up the
home stands starting tonight at six forty. We're giving away
tickets for that lad on the show today for game
one tonight. That's right, you want to go see the
Red Sox night, I'm gonna give you a different way
to do it in a second, because I saw a

(36:17):
lot of Red Sox jerseys downtown on the waterfront driving
in today.

Speaker 11 (36:21):
You don't like? Do not like?

Speaker 2 (36:23):
Anyway?

Speaker 1 (36:24):
Logan Gilbert back on the Mount tonight. Fifteen day DL
stint over. He's actually on that list, on the injury
list longer than fifteen days, but he is back right
and yeah, yes, listen, man, I just read what's here?

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Okay, s Romberg to hear.

Speaker 1 (36:39):
Also, in everyone's defense, you can't call it the DL
for like one hundred years of baseball history, then switch
it off because you feel like it sounds better anyway,
Speaking of the Red Sox, Boston made a blockbuster trade
for the weekend. Rafael that well, Lund's joining us on
Wednesday this week right, Oh great?

Speaker 9 (36:56):
Confirmed.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
We can no longer say that we're like twin ches
because the Mariners would not have made that train.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
Well, people get pissed about that anyway, because I saw
something more in the text line today. I made a
mistake of glancing at the text line for some reason.

Speaker 9 (37:09):
Ye what the people say, No, I don't know, he
don't know.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
He doesn't I don't, but I did glance at it.
And someone's pointed out the difference in the resumes of
the two clubs. One has world serious titles, the other
one doesn't. Yeah, but yeah, I'm sure Lund will be
talking all kinds of smack on win hopefully. But devers
By then is like zero for twelve or something.

Speaker 3 (37:27):
I love him as a player, though, Man, I know
I want to get on. I have a couple more
things because I know, okay, we'll get to it.

Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, sounds get up short against Botafogo yesterday to one
loss in the FIFA Club World Cup.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Let's score in the other game that you watch.

Speaker 11 (37:38):
It to zero.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Chelsea won over l a FC.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Oh and to the MLS so far.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
I know Miami tied their game in the.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
YEA for them. Yeahkay good.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
JJ spawned capture first major title, winning the US Open.
Berdie the seventeenth hole, took a one stroke lead. Then
that's sixty four and a half with Birdie putt on
eighteen to secure the win, all you need to do
is two putt there, which for most of us sixty
four feet would be three putt city Yes pros even
at Oakmont, he was gonna do it, but he just said,
what the hell? Just can a sixty four foot or
thanks for coming. Happy Father's Day. He's got two young girls.

(38:07):
One of them was really sick. The other n I
had to go get I got a flu and stuff. Yeah,
he had a hell of a weekend man for him
to bounce back like that, pretty good weekend. Stanley Cup
Panthers three two series leader with oilers. They had a
five to two wins Saturday Game six. Tomorrow they could
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(38:29):
NBA Finals Pacers thunder tied two games apiece Game five
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Speaker 4 (38:37):
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Speaker 2 (38:53):
All right, two'clock out.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
We're gonna go through a bunch of stuff here, kind
of spit all some different topics around. Give you two
guys real quick a thought on an opportunity to kind
of to check in on the Raphael Dever situation. Jes
your first, Yes, no, shud. They are you disappointed? They
didn't get them mad at the Mariners? How do you react?

Speaker 4 (39:10):
No?

Speaker 6 (39:10):
I mean I think if they were going to do something,
it would have been this offseason, and so especially this
or a month before the trade deadline. I didn't really
see it as some sort of indictment, you know, a
month and a half before the trade deadline actually.

Speaker 9 (39:23):
An indictment on what the Mariners have or haven't done.

Speaker 6 (39:26):
I do think that it points more positively towards the
Giants and posey being like you know what, I'm going
to do it now, screw it, like I want to
do it. And you know, as the guys had talked about,
it did seem like an offline thing where the Giants
were proactive and aggressive, and I don't expect the Mariners
to do things like that. So it didn't speak negatively

(39:48):
to the Mariners, And in my mind it does show
the difference though in an aggressive organization and a passive
one er.

Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah, I mean, I'm a great point on if they
were going to it was gonna be in the off season.
Totally agree at that, but I tells you they weren't
going to ever do it exactly. But I just want
to talk about Raffie Devers as a player because I
just think he is the perfect fit here in Seattle.
First of all, he is a known Mariner killer. He
always destroys the Mariners whether it's at T Mobile Park.

(40:19):
No Marine layer to him. And just okay, he's a
twenty eight year old, so there's no age concern whatsoever.
You don't have to throw it. Oh, we don't want
to pay him deep into his thirties or anything like that. No,
he's twenty eight years old. He's in his prime right now.
He has shown nothing, but he's a fantastic hitter. And
we just had the Julio conversation in the first Molliwop segment, thinking, Okay,

(40:40):
even though he maybe isn't as elite of an offensive
player as we may have expected after his first couple
of years, what he does in every other aspect makes
up for it, and it's just a different package. Rafael
Devers is the perfect compliment to that because he's the opposite.
He's a pretty, i would say, below average defensive basement,
which is one of the reasons the Red Sox wanted

(41:02):
to move on from him. But he's an elite hitter,
So if you guys are looking for more offense, that's
the way it's gonna come. Plus, it's not like you
have anyone at third base. I know people are been
Williamson fans and stuff, YadA, YadA, YadA, ra Field. Devers
is playing third base and that was the whole thing, right,
and weird thing about the Giants is they already have
a third baseman so like, I don't know how that

(41:23):
situation is gonna go. I think just the relationship between
Devers and the Red Sox was over. They wanted to
get rid of him. I don't know why. He's been
nothing but really good for them for so long, and
just it screams like that's the exact player in the
Mariners need an elite hitter. And maybe he has some
deficiencies defensively, but we just need more elite hitters on

(41:44):
this team.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
I'll wrap up it with this. I think.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
The fun thing about these types of transactions and dealings
is at some point the truth will kind of bubble
to the surface and how it took place, you know it.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
To me, it's a little too convenient to say that that.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
Buster Posey just cold called the Red Sox and they
just said, yeah, man, I'll buy on that.

Speaker 2 (42:05):
I'll do that.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Like everyone in baseball knew that he was unhappy, right
and they were unhappy. Like everyone knew that the relationship
had soured. Okay, So that's the only criticism I would
have Mariner wise, in terms of Justin and Jerry, is
were you like, if you're never in on it? Because
it happened so quick and and you know Buster Posey,

(42:28):
the smartest guy in baseball, like he just made a
or do he just get lucky? He made a phone call,
cold call and boom. I don't think it's that simple,
nothing like that. Not the amount of money involved. Nothing
is that simple? Okay nothing? And you don't do that
deal with the money involved, the prospects involved in it
in a couple three albums like that doesn't happen.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Well, and let's talk about what they gave up. I
think I don't care about that because it's they gave
up nothing. Like my point.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
Yeah, yah, they gave up nothing that we don't care
they like because that's Chris said that. Like we all
know the Marriers have a better farm system than anybody.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
They didn't even have to give up any of their guys.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Though my point is the deal. The deal did not
happen in twenty minutes. And in the world of sports
now with agents involved, everyone had to know that it
was going to go down or it was being discussed.
There are no secrets, and agents aren't dumb. Whether it's
Dever's agent or one of the five or was the
four or five players four players right, four players that

(43:17):
they gave up four players, so including their first at
least five different agents involved. Really nobody else, like they
knew what was going on, so that might my only
My only criticism would be that were they asleep at
the wheel. But then so we're twenty eight other teams exactly. Okay,
so I'm not going to criticize Justin and Jerry. We

(43:37):
can all chritsize. We don't even need to talk about
the Stanton not wanting to give money Ellum anymore. He's
the fourteenth highest paid player in baseball and he's a
top fifteen hitter in baseball. So the money works out.
And Chris had a great point, today's money isn't tomorrow's man.
We talked about that with the Kraken last last year. Yes,
oh my god, they gave Montour and Steven to these
huge contracts seven years.

Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:59):
Well, first of all, they're all they're both young enough,
they're going to see the end of the contract. And
two solar cap goes up every year. That's a solarcaplia.
I know it's different, but the point is the same
salaries go up every year. Sometimes locking guys up for
long term is actually a very That's why they signed
Julias exactly. That's why they signed Calu of those deals.
Because they got those guys. Those deals will look really

(44:19):
good in a couple of years. Yes, they already really yeah,
they already do the thing with the thing with these guys,
is this any trade you know? And we're gonna hear
from tdy light Wake in a second. When trades happen
and things go down in sports, whether it's a free
agent signing or a trade being made, it takes multiple

(44:40):
sides to agree upon it. So I always have a
really hard time saying, oh my god, I can't belie
they didn't make that trade because we don't know the
inner workings and you know what all went on behind
the scenes. It takes two to tangle. But I think
the bottom line is this, the Mariners are are close.
They are close. We saw that again this week in Cleveland.

(45:01):
Is not a bad baseball team and they beat them
in three straight games. I think we all believe that
they're a better team that we saw earlier in the
week in the previous five six games, right, But they're
better baseball team than that. Are they as sweep as
the Guardians? Probably not?

Speaker 5 (45:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I might go a little more than Nate says, eighty
five wins. I think they are an eighty seven to
ninety win team. That's who they are, but they're blemished.
That other thing A part, the other part of is this,
if they're say like an eighty six, eighty seven, eighty
eight a win team, add something to your lineup and
guess what you are all of a sudden, You're no
longer an eighty win team. You're in the nineties, and
you are a playoff team at that point, and then

(45:37):
you are getting this town on fire. So that point's disappointing.
He would have made a massive difference here. It would
have been awesome. And so I think all of us
can look around, shake our head and say, what a bummer.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Thank God for.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Them them being the manors that they won and swept
this weekend, because it kind of, you know, it makes
it a little easier to stomach. And out here come
the Red Sox, which you're a depleted team right now
as it is, and they don't have him this weekend,
although they have won five straight games. Okay, a couple
of things I want to hit on Jjspond real quick,
just because before we get to the sounders and access

(46:10):
and things like that. The JJ spawn story when in
the US Open. I know you not everybody's a huge
golf fan. I get it, but I'm gonna just give you.
I think we all care about personalities and different things.
What this dude overcame is remarkable. It is absolutely remarkable.
And I first saw his story, I want to say,
a year and a half ago. It hits home because

(46:30):
my son's got type one diabetes. Oftentimes type one diabetes
is misdiagnosed in the world we live in today. We
have so many great medical professionals out there that are
listening right now. You guys, for the most part, do
a great job. For the life of me, I cannot
figure out how you misdiagnosed this all the time. It
should be the easiest thing to diagnose. You know how
easy it is. Someone who has it can tell you

(46:51):
if their blood sugar is screwed up on a minute
by minute basis. They don't whether it's pricking their own
finger or using a dex calm, etc.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
He was misdiagnosed.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
When you hear people say, oh, I got Diabetes's got
type type two diabetes is not type one. Guys, it's
not even in the same hemisphere. But somehow, a couple
of times he got misdiagnosed as having type two diabetes.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Almost killed him. It almost killed him.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I lost fifty five pounds and the guy was just
in a and I've seen it firsthand, in a world
of hurt. For him to bounce back and at one
point be about one hundred and seventy th ranked player
in golf, barely on the tour, not playing any majors,
not qualifying for the signature events. But this wasn't a
flash in the pan. He had a bunch of top

(47:38):
five finishes this week. He's gotten so much better for
the last year. You know why, because he's managing it.
He figured it out. His blood sugar, he's got it
all figured. He's got to figure out.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
It.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Doesn't mean it's not a challenge walking.

Speaker 11 (47:47):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
I heard somebody say, well, you know, you gotta be careful.
Your blood sugar might spike. No, no, when you're going
through physical activities, it drops. You see these guys watch
Jordan Morris play soccer sometime you'll see the nuance. Every
now and then they keep track of his blood sugar
on the sideline and if it drops, he'll come nicely
about soccer. You can come fly over and give myself

(48:09):
a gatorade. They probably got whatever they have for him
on the sideline to jacket Back up. You're walking eighteen
holes on the most on the hardest golf course maybe
in the world, and this son of a gun won
the tournament in the worst conditions, walking eighteen for four
straight days. Wyndham Clark blew up and destroyed a clubhouse.
That's a whole different story. He's a tool. But like

(48:31):
he did that, I'm like, what are you doing?

Speaker 11 (48:33):
This guy?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Just persevere? Persevere if you want to find somebody to
root for it, that's the guy. I just think it's
an incredible story. What he had to overcome is awesome
and it's life changing. You win a major in golf,
and it's a whole different deal. Okay, I'm gonna just
I'm gonna set this up three minutes. I'm gonna set
this up real quick. We had a conversation last week
with Todd li Wiki and we'll take it on to
the other side in the in then the segment coming

(48:56):
up at two thirty, he'll talk about it more. I
for a rare occasion express frustration on Twitter x whatever
we call it last night because the NBA and the NHL,
for some reason decided just to leave Father's Day alone
and a Sunday in which Dad can do anything, like
should be able to do anything for me, be watching sports,

(49:16):
not having to tell my wife I'm watching sports because
it's my job, which she still doesn't always understand.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Thirty years later.

Speaker 11 (49:23):
I love that.

Speaker 9 (49:24):
Thirty years later something about that binning and I was like, Okay, I.

Speaker 1 (49:27):
Can't wait for the I can't wait for the NBA
Finals and that'd be great. Oh it's not on until Monday.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Oh what the hell?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
NHL, I know it's on Tuesday. Okay, well you know
what I'm I'm gonna watch the damn Club World Cup.
That's awesome. The limited access or the harder access, the
non easy access will get to in the next segment.
But how important is it to service your fans? Because
the Sounders and FIFA, and I know it's more FIFA
than the Sounders have really botched this thing. I was

(49:55):
talking to my neighbor on Saturday. Season ticket hold her
a long time Sounder season ticket sideways mad paying triple
the costs that most people that a lot of people
bought tickets for yesterday's match. Yeah, we'll give you an
extra two tickets. They said, dude, I don't need two
extra tickets. I already bought six. What do I need
two more tickets for that? I couldn't even resell for

(50:16):
anything anyway. It was so botched. This is Todd light
Wiki talking about how important does it take care of
your fans.

Speaker 12 (50:24):
It wasn't just the ticket piece what we were talking
about that day, and we whiteboarded it, and I wish
we had taken a picture of it, but we talked
about building fandom, but also you know, acknowledging the people
who got us to this point in time, and you know,
barriers to the fandom that day on the whiteboard were
being on a regional sports network fantastic, great partnership with Root,

(50:50):
but the providers for cable were pushing it to the
premium tier. So I walked into a bar one day
where I used to watch crack and game games, and
the bartender said, sorry, we don't get it anymore because
they pushed in on the premium. And it happened a
lot of places, and it happened with our fans and
It was, you know, a tough decision because quite frankly,

(51:13):
the economics when you moved over the air are a
little less lucrative because you've eliminated the cable fees from
the ethos there. But our ownership, again, we laid it out.
We talked about the need to produce our own games,
we talked about the need to storytell, and we thought

(51:33):
about what the ultimate package would be, and we created it.
Seventeen games on King five, all the games one channel
over on you know, number six on cong and then
every game streamed, not behind the payball.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
It's on video, which everyone has now because the NFL,
thank you very much.

Speaker 12 (51:52):
It is and I think that you know, a lot
of people had it. I think there's probably more prime
subscribers in the market than are our cable subscribers. But
what we saw were fantastic results. And as a kid,
I fell in love with the game watching it on TV.
But real fandom happens when you go see a game live,

(52:13):
especially in the NHL. People don't realize how fast the
game is, and people say it's hard to watch. I
don't think it's hard to watch on TV, but I
think live, you see the entire the shifts, the players,
the speed, the hits, the noise. So we then, as
a part of the research that led us to conclude
over the air and the ticket piece, we talked to

(52:35):
fans and they said, well, we're not sure that there's
tickets available. The place always looks full, and we don't
you know, I've got a family of four, and so
we said, look, we should rethink our prices. We set
this in a time where there was a lot of
pressure from financial institutions who backed us, because, make no mistake,
this was the largest investment made in the history of Seattle.

(53:00):
Answer fee privately built arena one point one billion and
maybe just a little kiss north of that, okay, rounding
air and you know it was there was a lot
of pressure, but some of that pressure had waned a bit,
and so we said, how do we create more access
for families wanting to come. So we reprised the bowl

(53:20):
ten percent of our family price. We're going to redo
it consent, But then what about the people that came
with the Initially it's great to invite families, but what
about the person who put the deposit down before there
was even a team name. So we thought holistically supportive ownership,
and those two things are good things. So we got
more on that whiteboard. There's other things we're going to

(53:41):
do to build fandom here with the Seattle crack, and.

Speaker 11 (53:45):
I use that.

Speaker 1 (53:45):
I want to be playing. We talked to him on Wednesday.
I wanted to play, you know, kind of just touching
on that a little bit, you know, And we'll do
that next segment, because taking care of the fans who
support you, who are there from the beginning, from the start,
is the most important thing team can do and a
franchise can do. And I feel like and I honestly
I feel like this. I think the Sounders have done

(54:05):
almost everything right over the years on the field. I
think off the field, they've screwed up since the start.
And I'll explain why next.

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Speaker 1 (54:32):
One quick note, just a sign up before we get back.
We were talking about the if you've seen around in hockey.
They started naming the top the first six players for
countries today for the Olympics. The NHL players are back
in the Olympics next year. There was one Seattle Kraken
player name that I saw.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
I saw it too.

Speaker 1 (54:48):
Philip Krubauer for Germany has been named. Question about his
future here in Seattle certainly remained. But he's the number
two goalie in Seattle without a question. But he's the
number one guy maybe for Germany and the Olympics. Good
for him, good for every about a good guy. Hopefully
Leanne Lamber can get him to bounce back, to be
gipped back to his old form. Okay, so we're talking
about this earlier with and I mentioned the Sounders. Why

(55:09):
Wick you was saying, you know, I fell in love
with the game by watching it on TV. That is
what gets you into the building. Yes, it's probably the
most important thing in sports.

Speaker 2 (55:21):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
We can complain all we want about the Mariners and
Root Sports, and if you want to complain about broadcast
or whatever, that's fine. Every game's on TV. When I
grew up, we probably had like an NL as softy,
I think we had like forty or fifty games a
year on TV. They were on KSTW. If I'm not
mistaken on Channel eleven. You know, Breakman Bill and then

(55:42):
Mariner Baseball is what we had back then, and so
maybe Rod Simon's doing the sports the late great Rod Simon's,
but but now every game's on TV, you know, and
there's a couple that you got to go deal with
the Apple stuff and all that. But at least when
you do the Apple it's not Apple TV and then
a paywall afterwards. You don't have to do the double
with the MLS. Does I mentioned the Sounders One of

(56:02):
the mistakes I thought the Sounders made when they initially
started the franchise. The demand was so high, and this
is kind of what the Kraken I think learned from
because remember Todd was in charge of the Sounders when
they first started. He was in charge because it was
the Sounders and c X ray joint partnership. Is that
every game was basically sold out at Luminfield with the Sounders.

(56:23):
If you wanted to go as an average fan, it
was impossible. If you were like my family and probably
yours at the same time, Anders and your kids were
soccer players, you weren't in a buy season tickets because
chances of you go into more than two or three
games a year were slim to none because here's what
you do, same as baseball and everything else, you have
tournaments every single weekend. You can't just can't do it.

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Correct.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
And then when you're paying for the fairfield in and
Yakama or Tri Cities every weekend for those damn tournaments
or in spokaneor where the hell you're at, like you
just can't afford it. There was really literally no single
game tickets available. Well, you lose a whole generation of fans.
You're trying to grow the game in this country, and
so they screwed that up and we're seeing the you're
seeing the results now, like they don't have the same

(57:04):
crowds the Sounders as they used to.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Right you're the Emerald City guy.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
They're losing a large portion of their diehard handbas.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
The next step in on the process was like this
whole Club World Cup thing, brand new deal, kind of cool.
And I'll be honest with you, I was excited to
watch it. Our team playing the highest level teams in
the world. Whether they get their ass kicked or not,
I don't care. It's differently when when man, you came
here in here and beat them like eight to one
or where the hell it was with their like second

(57:33):
third string players. Yeah, and it was a preseason game.

Speaker 11 (57:36):
For them, was it.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Frank WIT's his face played like like five minutes Chelsea, Chelsea.

Speaker 1 (57:42):
That was the other Yeah, you give my point. It
was like they played for a minute, but they killed them.
But when they came here, it's cool. I want to
see my team play that. This was what I was
excited about. So, you know, I kind of tweeted out
my frustration last night and it's twofold. The MLS deal
with Apple is the dumbest, dumbest deal in sports. You

(58:03):
got you got a little bit of a money grab
for an entire league at the expense of access for
people to watch a game. Growing your game and growing
the game and growing the sport and growing your league
what you need to do. The NHL finally just said,
you know what, We're gonna take it. We're just gonna
deal with it. We're gonna go to the We're gonna
go to ESPN and then tn T has been a
great bonus. TSC has been a great, great partner, But

(58:24):
we have to be on ESPN. We have to be
even if it means Leah Hextall's screaming at the top
of our lungs. We're gonna, We're gonna be on ESPN
in a way.

Speaker 3 (58:32):
You goous booth or the right, You're You're gonna do
all those things because you need to be on ESPN
because access is important.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
So my frustration with the Club World Cup is twofold one.
I kind of feel dirty because when the Sounders player
is protested, like I bought into the whole, Hey, cool trophy,
come in, bring I love Brad Adams, Brad Evans, come
on in, Brad, show us this thing. The FIFA guys
come in and you know what it is. It is
a a cool event coming up. I didn't realize they

(59:03):
were screwing the players, and honestly, I kind of feel
bad about that because I have such great respect for
Christian Roldan and Stephan Fry and guys like that. I
have massive respect for them. And if I would have
added any inkling that those guys were not on board
with how it was working, there's zero chance I would
have had those guys in studio. I don't care how
cool your damn trophy is. I just wouldn't have done it.

(59:23):
So I feel bad about that. I really didn't like
how Adrian Hanauer handled it to go in there and
basically undress his players for having a protest. Really, come on, man,
that that's not a good look. And I love you, Adrian.
I love this, Like, no, fifty years you've kept this
thing alive. It's awesome. But dude, no, so players aren't

(59:45):
buying into it until the match starts. Listen, I heard
Mason was greg. Of course, athletes are athletes. You turn
the when it's time to play, we'll play. But they
screwed these guys. But then this cool event and I
buy it. I'm and I've talked about this when they
brought the trophy in Jess it was awesome, Like, I
can't wait for this event. It'd be great watch our

(01:00:05):
team play. I'm like they play tonight. I'm like flipping
around and I like, where the hell is this thing? Like,
where the hell is this? And as a guy tweeted
back to me, yesterday.

Speaker 11 (01:00:16):
Took me a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Took me way too long to get to some obscure
streaming app. I thought this thing was a big deal,
and the other people mentioned that. Other people said, uh,
you know, started ripping on the whole deal with like
a FIFA FIFA TV deal on a streaming app is
the dumbest thing in the world. Streaming is fine. I'm
not anti streaming. I've bought into it. You want to
give me a game on Apple? You want to give

(01:00:37):
me Prime? The NFL just said, screw you. We're gonna
stream all the time. Now we're on.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
We're gonna go Peacock for a playoff game, We're gonna
go Prime for Thursday night football.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Let's do it, right, ESPN plus. I think how's one too.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
But I think when you unless you're a die hard
soccer fan and who watches games on this Dazen dozen
whatever that thing is called the zone, if you do
like you're used to it because your soccer guy, I
had to download it, I didn't have it. But if
you're a casual fan, you do know this damn thing existed. Yeah, yeah,
it is just so dumb and short sighted. I know

(01:01:12):
it's FIFA, not FIFA's job to grow the game. Uh
in our country right?

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Yes? In our country specific?

Speaker 8 (01:01:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Is soccer better if the US is better? I'm asking
that question out loud.

Speaker 9 (01:01:25):
I think so, Yes, I would say during the World Cup, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:28):
Okay, well that's all. We'll get into that next year,
because that's a whole not the club World Cup, World Cup,
that's the whole thing. I'll ask Jackson about coaching at
some point, look into that, just to see him see it.
But like, it's in our country. Yeah, well that's the point.
It's in our country. If this thing was being played

(01:01:49):
in you know, overseas somewhere, name a European country of France,
let's say it was being played in France. They had
eight sites in France, was being played there, and it's
being showed on the dozen to his own network. Okay, whatever,
you know, it's not even that big of a deal
anyway for us, it's not even here. You're trying to
get people in the building. You're not selling a ton
of tickets. I talked to a business owner down in Sodo.

(01:02:12):
They're like, yeah, man, we're not expecting much. World Cup.
Can't wait. This more of a pain in the ass
and anything. It just has been mishandled, and that's my problem.
I know most of it lies on FIFA, but I
always kind of come back to MLS a little bit
because you're still the flag bearer. Absolutely, the NHL is
the flag bearer for hockey across the country, across the world.

(01:02:34):
The NBA is the same for basketball, MLB for baseball
outside of Japan and Korea. But they still they're still
the I mean, they have places in academies down the
Dominican Republic. I mean, take a leadership role. And I
know you're not the best league in the world. We
all understand that, but be better and treat your fans better.
The way this ticket thing worked is awful. And by

(01:02:55):
the way, if you're thinking about the World Cup next
year and going to the other world as yes, to
the real the real World cupany man that's in the
mean one, because this is this is a big deal.
But this is kind of like the Four Nations Hockey tournament,
like it's the first time they've done it this way.
There's been iterations of it and all that, but this
is the first time they've done it this way. Well,
the Four Nations was off the hook, wildly successful and oh,

(01:03:18):
by the way, easy to watch, easy to see, easy
to consume. If you're not in the building. World Cup
tickets next year, just glancing around anywhere from twenty two
to four thousand dollars each for I mean what, like, really.

Speaker 9 (01:03:37):
Right, who's going It's like Super Bowl prices.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Well it'll be packed right, Oh god, yes, well depending
on the other political issues we've gotten our country moving on,
who's hanging out outside of the stadium. But yeah, it's
uh but it's yeah, no, it's it's like it's you're
priced out of it. Yeah, I've have to test Safty
Softie went to the match in South South af Wonder

(01:04:00):
what that cost him.

Speaker 3 (01:04:01):
It was in twenty Ten's was probably like we talked
about inflation earlier, so probably not as expensive.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
But yeah, I wonder if it was the equivalent.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
I know, I know for a fact that many people
around the world for the twenty twenty two World Cup,
their most recent one in Quitar, literally spent their life
savings just so they could go to the game.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Well, and that was a whole different deal too, because
you're going to guitar exactly pytter whatever we call it
these days, and you're more worried about getting thrown into
jail if you had like a you know, try to
sneak a beer in or something.

Speaker 3 (01:04:30):
So really quick can I respond? I just want to say,
like for the players in the pay structure, and everything
from the digging that I did on that that's less
of a FIFA issue and more of an MLS issue.
Oh that's so, that's an Adrian issue. That's an issue.
And the Sounders issues, yes, one percent. But the accessibility,
I completely agree with you. I wish they had done

(01:04:50):
something like the krack and did where you have it
on this free to stream map if you don't have
any cable or anything, you just want to watch it
for free, promote the crap out of it there, but
also put it on you know, terrestrial television that should
have had.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
They should have had it on. There's a million channels
out there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
Yes, and I it's a little frustrating for me as
a fan of the World game, and I have been
following it for my entire life. I see how much
it's embraced by the rest of the world. I see
Times Square being invaded by Brazilian fans just chanting the
crap out of things. I see how much very well

(01:05:27):
respected pundits in the European game are following this closely,
tweeting out, oh my god, I just can't it sucks
that I have to wait until four pm to watch
the first game today. Like it's a huge deal to
everyone else except here. And I can't help but wonder why, Yeah,
why does it take something?

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
It wouldn't have taken much if this game would have
been readily available for people to watch easily, Yeah, a
Sunday night when nothing else was on. Yeah, and people
would have seen the atmosphere even with only thirty thousand there.
I think it would have helped. And that's and that's
that's on them, that's on and I think you're right.
I think it's more on the MLS, and it's US soccer,
US soccer MLS and the owners like be better, just
be better and and be better and be ready next

(01:06:06):
year because a year from right now, a year from
right now, yes, the world will be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:10):
With us here.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Okay, we'll take a break, jump in with Softy next,
all right, we uh I mentioned daring the molly Wop.
We're gonna give away Marren your tickets for the night's game. Andrews,
I need you to somehow. You want to do it easy,
right on the on the text line four nine four
five one. Okay, so first and last name, what do

(01:06:31):
you want to do?

Speaker 3 (01:06:32):
I have a randomizer just sending your first and last
name in your email on the text, and I will
choose one.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
I want.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
I don't want to rest. I don't want to I
don't want a Red Sox fan to go. That's the
only thing I want to do.

Speaker 11 (01:06:45):
So good luck luck with that man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
I told and and Jess I was driving down on
the waterfront today and I thought I was in Bosston.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
How would you say Boston?

Speaker 11 (01:06:54):
Can you say Boston?

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (01:06:57):
Anyway, I got a text from a buddy of mine
who was at the game, and he said, there's Red
Sox fans everywhere, Channing, let's go Red Sox right now downtown.

Speaker 9 (01:07:04):
So there you go, there, Loud, I live with one
can kick.

Speaker 3 (01:07:09):
Yeah, we're literally having one of those Red Sox fans
go to the game tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:14):
So oh, that's right, you're going with him? Are you
wearing Red Sox.

Speaker 11 (01:07:18):
Gear, Joe? So she's probably rooting for Boston.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
No, I'm wearing I'm wearing Mariners gear, all right and
uh and out, so we're going as a wash.

Speaker 11 (01:07:27):
Basically, if it's Sox Yankees, who would you be rooting for.

Speaker 9 (01:07:32):
Red Sox Yankees? I'd be rooting for a comet.

Speaker 13 (01:07:38):
If you're a ridiculous approach to this that you take
the basketball translates to baseball.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
I like, I think I would root because I grew
up in closer proximity to the Yankees, and I was
a Mets fan growing up and I still root for them,
So I would root against the Yankees, but I wouldn't
want either team to win, all right?

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
Well, text in four and four or five one, and
if you maybe maybe just add something to the text.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Editors will be able to Marinis fan.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
Yeah, and you know, say just whatever. Okay. Two things.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
One, Logan Gilbert officially back Jackson Cowar's option triple A.
So for the first time ever they made a move
and it wasn't Casey Lawrence getting designated for assignments. Yeah,
one of those two guys getting.

Speaker 11 (01:08:17):
One of the f A to the MOP. Bizardo, is
he is? He still around? Is healing about?

Speaker 3 (01:08:23):
Pitched like six times in the last What you're doing?

Speaker 11 (01:08:26):
You're still here pitching pretty well? Isn't?

Speaker 8 (01:08:30):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
You just still here this past two weeks.

Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
He's no longer the MOP. He's now effective just coming
to the clean up crew.

Speaker 13 (01:08:38):
Do you think it's funny the same day Otani's making
his pitching debut his interpreters going to prison.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
I think it's actually poetic justice in a sense. Uh,
in a lot of ways.

Speaker 13 (01:08:46):
You think he's taking one for Tani. By the way,
that's a lot of people think that, yes, taking one
for the question, how much would they have to pay
you to go to prison for a.

Speaker 11 (01:08:54):
Future for eighteen months? Is that what it is?

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
Eighteen What would what would be the cost for you
to do that?

Speaker 13 (01:09:00):
If you believe goodfellows, a lot of guys go to
jail to get away from their wives.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Okay, let's assume I'm assuming that's not the case.

Speaker 13 (01:09:06):
Yes, yeah, yeah, like actually getting the picture, he's actually
getting fifty seven months.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Okay, so what is that?

Speaker 11 (01:09:16):
Okay four and a half years.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
So say say one of the Nicholson brothers or one
of the talking To brothers, one of those guys, right,
says man, I'm gonna lurch. I listen, what will it
cost for you to take the wrap and go to
jail for three years?

Speaker 11 (01:09:30):
Minimum? One hundred million? Okay, maybe maybe I do it
for seventy five.

Speaker 13 (01:09:35):
I've got to be able to get out and be
totally free of all bonds and financial restrictions, no work
ever again, anything.

Speaker 11 (01:09:45):
I want to do I can do.

Speaker 13 (01:09:47):
I want to make sure that my wife doesn't leave
me and then take half when I get out.

Speaker 11 (01:09:51):
That would suck.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Yeah, so a hundred million, I'd say a hundred mil
mil speaking speaking a hundred mill, I tease this. I
want to get the question out.

Speaker 11 (01:09:58):
Great question, by the way, for that comonials.

Speaker 2 (01:10:00):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 11 (01:10:01):
How much money would you need? I if it be
miss is it?

Speaker 6 (01:10:04):
Is it?

Speaker 11 (01:10:05):
It be your ipay? How do you say name ipay?

Speaker 13 (01:10:07):
If if they Missahara is really taking one for Otani
and going to jail for fifty seven months?

Speaker 11 (01:10:12):
How much money would you need to have in your
wallet to.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Do that for somebody?

Speaker 9 (01:10:16):
I was going to say ten million?

Speaker 11 (01:10:21):
Ten yeah, but you're different because you're already eighty. Yeah,
that much time?

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
They leave me alone.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
They live younger than you, and I do it for
they leave me? Hey, what did you pay for a
World Cup ticket in South Africa?

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Real fast?

Speaker 11 (01:10:32):
What did I pay for the tickets?

Speaker 2 (01:10:34):
Not not your just a game ticket?

Speaker 11 (01:10:36):
You go, I don't know, dude, it was fifteen years ago.
Was it a couple of hundred bucks? Maybe? If I'm
not mistaken. I'm not sure, Okay, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Okay, have you seen what? Have you seen what they
cost here? Next year?

Speaker 11 (01:10:47):
I'm sure they're expensive. What are they?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
The cheapest one is twenty four hundred.

Speaker 13 (01:10:50):
I could find twenty four hundred bucks to get in
the door for a World just a ticket for a
World Cup game.

Speaker 11 (01:10:55):
Well that's going to come down. Those will come down, okay,
just certainly come down.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Have got coming up to?

Speaker 11 (01:11:00):
What's today? Monday?

Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
Monday?

Speaker 13 (01:11:02):
Humulin's gonna be here at four John Wilders on a
five because we're off early for hockey tomorrow.

Speaker 11 (01:11:06):
We're pulling up for an est tomorrow, by the way,
and doing the two hour.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Thing on today.

Speaker 13 (01:11:11):
Schmesser's on today talking about their lost and then we're
gonna talk to Cody Green. You know who Cody Green is?
That name ring about with you. Cody Green is a
five star offensive lineman who started at Eastside Catholic, went
to Matter Day, committed to Oregon and then saw the
light of day and told Dan Landing to take a
hike and committed to you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
I think he's got commitment issues all the way around,
that kid.

Speaker 11 (01:11:32):
Just once.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
I mean, well, how many schools I'm into, including high schools.

Speaker 11 (01:11:35):
He hasn't been to any school, well what to two
high schools?

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
Got commitment?

Speaker 11 (01:11:40):
Is you know what? This is the way of the world, now, pal,
I know it is. I know it is. You're selling
people short man. You're not going to four and a
half schools. You're not doing it right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I think I'm transferring.

Speaker 13 (01:11:49):
I'm gonna transfer just to get away from you. I
may go to jail just to get away from you.
How much I have just still talked to you in prison? No,
would you write me letters?

Speaker 2 (01:11:57):
I haven't written. Yeah, I'll write your letter. If you're
gonna be you promised me to go to prison, I'll
write your letter.

Speaker 9 (01:12:01):
But you guys get sent away together and end up
sharing a.

Speaker 11 (01:12:05):
Sound How fun would that be? Razor blade? Alright, liquor?
Oh dude, we have so much freaking fun.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
I can't wait. Let me be sharing a cell. Let
me know what I got to do to get there.
See it for the mild mannered and marginally objectionably Inverness,
this is paddled day saying so long everyone,

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