November 1, 2024 • 35 mins
In the first hour, Ian Furness and Jackson Felts discuss tomorrow’s game between the Huskies and USC with both programs fighting for bowl games, then chats with Danny O’Neil about UW and the Seahawks before Ian celebrates the night for Jaylen Wells.
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Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'm good Ian Again. I was saying I could use
some beef from Jackie because I'm rolling on the board
here tonight till seven o'clock, all the way through Softy
and Dick.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
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Speaker 3 (02:30):
I need a beef lunch and I need a beef
dinner by the time I finished tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, I tell you, how was your Halloween? Oh? Mike, well,
Jeff fin you know what? You know what I should
have had.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I should have had the clip ready from Kevin collabor
because I'll tell you Sana overd.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Are you still on the no beer but you're going
down the other road list? Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, And at one point we were on the we
were on the track of just no alcohol at all.
We've we've we've lost that road a little bit. So
now the holidays coming up on his buddy, don't worry.
Troubling part of that is that we established kind of
a low tolerance by not drinking alcohol for three months.
So now I'm still trying to work back to the
tolerance I once had. And that made that made too.
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You know what did I have? I had the canned
cocktails and the cutwater cocktails. Oh yeah, stuff yeah, and
to my ties last night. That was that was about
all I could do.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I know, I we you and Andrews and I had a
little session up at the Queen Anne Beer Hall a
month or two ago right for that. This was I
think it was a tapping. It was october Fest, the
tamping of the keg, the ceremonial tapping of the keg,
and and Jackson is just and I'm like, what happened
to the Jackson I've come to know in love? But uh,
you know, hey, listen, you do you I I'll tell
you one thing and I'll get to this in January.
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I hate dry January. And here's why I hate it.
Here's all you have to do. Just moderation, man like
I like it. I go cause you know, there's been
too many times when I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna stant
a flat out overdid it during December or November and
the holidays or honest, look outside right now, look outside light,
and I'm gonna remind you life is short. Make your
(04:07):
own choices. Do you do you? But moderation's fine. Damp
January is fine, damp November is fine. Just do your
thing and in a way you go. But I was
wondering if you because I was working last night. I
got off, I got off of the cracking game and
got back to our neighborhood. We had a little gathering
in our neighbor's house swung by there, hung out for
a while, had a few glasses of wine, got back
home and uh next door and uh and uh and
(04:31):
and woke up this morning and I woke up this
morning and we have no internet. No internet. Oh yeah,
what happens? Well, who are the culprits tweakers? It's it's so,
I guess this is the thing. Now, this is like,
this is a thing. The tweakers are attacking all these comcasts,
substations and cell towers and things. Uh, it happened in
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southeast King County, in Auburn or Kent last week, and
now it happened in Maple Valley and Comington today. And
you know, you forget how dependent you are on technology.
Oh yeah, right, Like I like, I'm like, okay, no
TV's one thing, but no Internet. And then you know
the cell service is like next to none. I'm trying
to figure out what's going on? Why is nothing working?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And so yeah, it's you put yourself into a post
apocalyptic landscape when you go without internet.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's crazy. You know. When I first started doing this job,
like we didn't have any internet. That was back in
nineteen ninety nine. It was just like, you know, you
read a newspaper and you come up with a topic
and you hope somebody calls the radio station to fill time.
It's a different world now. But and then and then
I get my car and I've got a tire issue,
and so I have to drop my car off at
less Schwab. Those guys are awesome, but it's not gonna
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get done, and I have to figure out how to
get up here or on my mother in law's car.
It's just like between that and the for Nest flood
of twenty twenty four, I feel like the luck has
to turn, like it has to cheep today. That's what
I'm gonna do, you know what. I don't need that
kind of encouragement Jackson, But damn you, I will do
exactly that. I'm going to do exactly that along the
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way because it, like, I think everyone can relate to this.
At some point, don't you feel like your luck is
going to turn? At some point? It has to turn
at some point when everything seems to be going wrong.
And for us it started October third with the flood
and the malfunctioning dish or a washing machine, everything that
goes into that insurance company morons and pukes and everything else,
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and this, Yeah, it's at some point. Not only does
your luck change, it has to change. It has to
get better, but at some point it has to get
really good, right, it can't. It has to. It should
go from one extreme to the other. I'm hoping, and.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
That's kind of the reason why I'm holding out hope
that the Huskies can beat USC tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I wanted to get to that, and I want
to get to some point, right. Yeah, Mike Kog's are
off this week, and I want to get Daniel O'Neil's
going to join us at twelve twenty today we got
a couple more minutes. I wanted to ask you about
that and listen. This is not the Husky Show of
Record that starts at three pm today, but USC Washington.
I see here. I'm looking at this matchup on my
computer screen because thankfully this still call me Casino has Internet,
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and I'm looking at this two four and four teams.
Washington thought they would take a step back. We all
know that, right. I mean, you lose Kaylen de boor
you lose Michael Pennix, three wide receivers of the NFL.
But you brought Jonah Coleman in and you brought Will
Rogers in. You didn't expect to not be a bowl team.
You expected to probably now maybe soft. You'll tell me
(07:24):
I'm a fool later on, but let's be honest. You
hired Jed Fish, an established coach. The whole we have
fifty one new players doesn't fly because what we have
forty nine at Wazoo, and I started looking across like
everyone's got forty plus new players because every year every
team has twenty five. Then you had the Portland of
that forty to fifty is not out of the ordinary.
That's today's college football. You expect to be a bowl team. USC.
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On the other hand, they beat LSU on that neutral
site game to start the season. Lincoln Riley, Yeah, you
lost Kayleb Williams, but you have a new defensive coordinator,
a new attitude. USC expected to be pretty good four
and four two, and the way schedule set up, this
is a massively pivotal game for both of these teams,
isn't it It is?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's huge for them. We understand that for for us,
they're coming in with a lot, but for for you,
dubbed this is this might be the turning pointing in
because if we lose this, then I look at Pensatan,
Oregon and expecting to win either of those is a
absolute pipe of a pipe of a pipe dream. So
at that point, you know we're likely not making a
bowl game. We have one hope left for a win
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and that's UCLA. So at that point, this this is
this is the hope for a bowl game. This game
right here and again going back, we've had so many
down moments this season, Apple Cup. It's got to change
some point, right We've got to come off. We've got
to win a game that we're not win like the
Rutgers game that you dub At some point this season
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has got to win a game that they're not favored
to win, and right now USC is favored by a
point and a half. So I mean, listen, we gotta
do one of these rights.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You know what, though, Jackson, I always want Like I
just thought, like we're talking about luck changing. Maybe this
is where, like the last two years, everything's gone your way,
like you, you know, like like the two Oregon games
specifically last year. Maybe you're due for what but maybe
this is your downturn. But you're right, like, and I
know there's a lot of people because of the twelve
team college football Playoff that are down on the bowl games.
(09:19):
Here's why ball games aren't gonna go away. Especially for
a guy like Jed Fish. They're very important because you
want those extra practices and you want to have that
extra month. It's one thing if like say last year's
Husky team didn't get to the college football Playoff and
they maybe they lost two or three games along the way,
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and Pennix was gone, the three receivers are gone, You're
leading rusher from last year was gone a whole, but
your whole defensive front was gonna be gone. Like the
ball game may not have meant much for you guys,
because everyone would have would have opted out, Like there's
zero chance Pennix would have played. If anything right, probably
zero chance Rome plays and Jalen plays and all that.
But instead, you know, you get to that. So it's
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different this year. You want Williams to have extra practices
if he decides he's gonna stick around depending on the
world of nil these days, who knows what's gonna happen.
You want all those extra practices, you know, for Wazoo
and Jake Dickard, it's the same thing. Like John Matteier,
they're expecting back next year. Well know though, because they're
a bull team and they're probably gonna finish you know,
ten and two, eleven and one. If John Matteiro hops out,
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then we're gonna know what's going on there. But but
they but you want those extra practices. Those are vitally important.
Usc Lincoln Riley, it's a whole different world if Lincoln
Riley finishes six and six or God forbid for him,
although be kind of funny five and seven, because you
know that'd be all right. If that happens, then there's
a whole different conversation Jen Cohen's having down in Los Angeles.
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They didn't hire Lincoln Riley to go six and six
or say even they probably didn't know what they certainly
didn't even hire him to go for seven and five.
And so it's a pivotal game tomorrow. It's a it's
a pressure pack game. And I would say tomorrow's game
for those two schools, probably more pressure on the two coaches,
but especially on Lincoln Riley, like especially on Lincoln Riley.
And if it's like it is today us, he ain't
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how are you?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I am doing very well in it has been well.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
It was very close to.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
A perfect sports week here in New York because we
had the Giants debacle of a two point conversion.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Yeah, on Monday night, we had a Jets catastrophe.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
On Sunday we had the Yankees absolutely fantastic collapse. The
only thing that ruined it was that the Jets actually
got out of the mud in the second half last night.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
Otherwise it was going to be glorious.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Kind of helps when Houston's missing its two top wide receivers.
But sure that Yeah, are we now back? Is a
rod back in the good graces? Everything's all fine in
Jets Land now at what are they three and six?
Or something.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
Yeah, it's gotten to a point where everybody like, no
one wants to hear from him anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
They just want him to shut up and throw the football.
It's actually.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Just shut up, dude, you know what, You should just want.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
To hear about it. When I heard this morning, what
I heard this morning was a caller.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Said, and I have to sit here and listen to
Al Michaels talk about how well read a Rockets. Oh
my gosh, I don't question the volume of what he's reading.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I questioned the substance. That's a man that reads books
without barcodes.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh oh my gosh. I want to get to our
teams in the second. But I am curious. You mentioned
the Yankees. What was the reaction back there? They got
beat by the Dodgers in five It should have been
a six game series. At least nobody blows five nothing leads.
They did, and the way they did it was in
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historic fashion in that fifth inning. What what was the
reaction to, Probably, I'm sure a bunch of level headed
Yankee fans.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It was these guys have been fooling us all year,
and all the things we knew about this team, how
they don't do the little things right, how they can't
run the basis, how this manager doesn't.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Know what he's doing in the Superstar was an absolute disaster.
It all came back to buy us. That's the reaction.
It's delicious.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Did you tell them that it could be worse? And
let me point you to the team that's never been
to the World Series or they're located about three thousand
miles to the west up and it's near Alaska, it's
called Seattle. Did you point them that way? Do you
point them in our direction? No?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I didn't. I was too busy going.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I went with the concern trolling. I've been told the
tactics where I said, like, I really, I really thought
you guys were gonna do it this year. It's been
so long since you won a World Series and it
seemed like everything was lining up and I'm just so
surprised you guys didn't play better in the World Series.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
It's been great.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I love it. That is that Danny O'Neil Jonia's dang apostrophe.
All right, my friend, let's start right now with this.
We were just talking. We'll get to the Seahawks in
a minute, Jackson, were just talking. In the last segment,
And you know, I always hesitate to bring up husky
topics and husky segments because you know, oh, you know,
you're just trolling. You're doing I'm not, I'm I mean,
I grew up in Seattle. I grew up a Husky
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fan and then went to Wazoo, and that obviously changes
a person immediately. But you know, I'm there. There are
team here in Seattle, so I am always I'm curious
what's going on and what the mindset is. Two four
and four teams play tomorrow, USC and Washington and then
shout out to my friend Greg. Belly just texted me something.
The buy out for Lincoln Riley's obscene. I guess I
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don't know. If you can afford to pay for Lori
Laughlin's kids to somewhat go to school or whatever, live
on a boat, you can, you can. You can probably
buy out Lincoln Riley if you need to. I would think, right.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Just sell a couple more admins.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you could buy him out.
I'm sure the dude's sitting on the yacht that owns
whatever he owns, that got her kids in there, I'm
sure you could buy him. But let's just say, but
it's like two very different teams playing tomorrow in this
PAC twelve, Pac ten, Big ten whatever, we got matchup
at Seattle, which I mean, frankly, it's I'm saddened by it.
I grew up watching you. I'm one of the first
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games I ever saw was Charles Davis at Husky Stadium
against the Huskies. I mean, I like, I it just
it's dumb. But whatever. They're playing tomorrow at four thirty
in the Big Ten, and it's two four and four teams,
which is neither team expected they would be there along
the way. USC certainly didn't. Washington knew there'd be a
little bit of a step back. So let's start with that.
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You know, the Jedfish Washington year one, it's four and four.
What's Danny O'Neill u dubs alum's thoughts on the season
eight games in.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's been disappointing that they've lost. The losses to Washington
State and Rutgers were definitely disappointing. And I'm not gonna
say that they should have beat the Koogs because I
think that Washington failed, like clearly failed to win that game.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
They went out of their way to lose the game
at Rutgers. They had to work really hard to lose
that game.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, the getting the butt kicked by Indiana, I didn't
see coming. But I actually think Indiana is a pretty
good team, and the Iowa loss.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Is kind of the cost to do.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I feel that I thought that kind of loss was
going to come in the game against Michigan. It ended
up coming at Iowa, but I didn't have any illusions
that there was going to be a game or two,
and there's probably another one coming down the pipe with
Penn State where they're going to get punked by a
much more physical team. I've generally been encouraged by some
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of the things that I've seen from Jetfish, but I
also know that there are a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
And I host a podcast with Christian Cable and the.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Followers of that, a lot of people who very clearly
see flashing warning signs and are less enthused about Jadfish
than they were when he was hired. Where I would
say that I was generally I understood the hiring, but
I wasn't excited about it. I actually like some of
the messaging that he's doing in the way he's handling it,
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but look they've they've got a long road decline, and
they have two things. They need to rebuild this offensive
line and that's not something you can do in the
transfer portal. And they clearly, based on the aggressiveness of
their fundraising, believe they're at a significant financial and facilities
disadvantage within the conference.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Those two things are going to be very hard for
them to fight.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But as for the on field products, like I see
some reasons to be pretty encouraged about it. So if
they lose this game, I don't expect them to get
to a bowl game. I think that they've got a
good shot at winning it. I've learned a long time ago.
You can't expect at Washington to beat USC because USC
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is almost always going to have better athletes than you do.
They also tend to step on themselves and stumble. But
if they don't make a bowl this year, I'm not
going to consider this, oh my god, a flashing war.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Find that things are going to fail. It's going to
be disappointing, but knock the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I think you're coming off of college football playoff appearance.
He lost your coach and a bunch of players. Now
every school in the country's losing players. Every school in
the country's revamping every year, but not always with the
new coaching staff. So so there's certainly that I was.
I was watching another thing in town the other day
and it's, you know, there's this this. Do people not
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like do Husky fans not like Jed Fish? You can
only speak for yourself, but you like the job he's doing, right,
You like the job what he's doing so far?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I do. I have.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I he was the quarterbacks coach in twenty ten and
I for the Seahawks, so I covered him there and
I actually I didn't really, I don't want to say
he didn't. He rubbed me the wrong way, and as
a reporter, you're not supposed to take that into account,
and I think that I did. I worked pretty hard
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to make sure that didn't come through in my coverage.
But both he and Jeremy Bates, who were the offensive coordinator,
I thought, we're kind of aloof and a little bit
antagonistic in a way that was unnecessary. So I wasn't
super pumped when he got the job, but in general,
and I would say even the public messaging, I like
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him more now than I did when he took the job.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I would point out to our younger folks in the audience,
all due respect to you know, you know, the man's
no longer with us. Don James wasn't the most likable
guy in the world. Like like I worked in the
media in this town. When he was coaching, he was
far from likable, if you want to go down that road.
He was like Calyn de bor is a really likable guy.
(20:39):
You don't have to have a gregarious, happy, you know,
great personality to Nick Saban. Hello, I mean Nick Saban
on ESPN game Day is not the same Nick Saban
was coaching. You know, you don't have to be, you know,
a fun guy or a great guy or all those
things to be a really good coach. Today's coach though,
is different too, Hantyani, because like I love our coach
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in Poland, Jake Dicker's awesome and he's the opposite of
you know, well, whereas Fish maybe comes across as a loof.
I wouldn't even say ergant, just kind of a loof,
Dicker comes across like the opposite of that. But but
the other part of it, with Jake Dicker as a
Cougar fan, I'm like all right, dude, Like, are you
gonna like win down the stretch this year? Because the
last couple you know that has been the mo is
(21:23):
you get to five or six, seven wins and then
it just falls apart. I want a guy that wins.
I just want a guy that wins and can build
a program. And I guess now Dannyville more importantly keep
a program intact. That's almost the bigger job right now.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, I definitely think that's true. And I think that's
one of the things that I've liked about Jet is
that over the course, part of the strategy of playing
the number of players he has is I want to
keep guys getting involved, because that's going to keep them here.
If I just settled on had a small rotation of players,
you're going to have guys that are that are gonna leave.
(21:57):
And I think that makes a lot of sense. I
love the point that you made about personality. I would
expand it to players. You don't have to be a likable,
enjoyable public persona to be an extremely effective coach and
an extremely effective player. And the thing that matters most
is not your likability in a public sense, but your ability.
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I think to be consistent to who you are and
to have that translate into on field progress and on
field success.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I worried that Jed this year.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Would throw up his hands when they ran into situations
in which they were outmanned and kind of say, what
do you expect me to do?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
We're working with what we've got. And I've felt that his.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Energy around the development of players and how they go
about tackling some of the challenges.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I've liked it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I've really I've been encouraged by that part of it.
So I think there, while there are some very obvious
shortcomings that this team has had and a tendency to
shoot itself in the foot, I would chalk them more
up to the situation he inherited as to any of
the things that he's done or mistakes he's made as
a head coach.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Danie O'Neil North's handling systems comes out us every Friday
at twelve to twenty. Dang aposterphe will tell you about
that in just a couple seconds. All right, So Danny O'Neil,
Husky alum, Husky fan. If the Huskies don't make the postseason, Okay.
Danie O'Neil, who worked here for many many years in
the market and as a beat writer and as a
radio host covering one Seattle Seahawks team, What would we
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say about the Seahawks if they don't make the postseason disappointing?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, very clearly, because this was not a rebuild situation.
I think clearly the Washington Huskies were rebuild. The Seahawks
were not. The Seahawks were a team that has been
fairly consistently good, but never great for a stretch of time.
And now they've switched coaches and it sure looks like
(23:56):
they have the exact same works that they had on
the offensive line and more concerningly with their defense. And
I'm not going to be someone who says, Okay, well,
Mike McDonald's just.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Not up to the job.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I'm more looking at it and saying, like, maybe the
problems here were less in terms of schemes and approach
from the coaching staff and more in terms of the
horsepower and the personnels that they have.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Because they've got their.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Next three games and they have a buy sprinkled in there.
Their next three games are against the teams in a
division and this is the most adamantly resolutely mediocre division
in football. I think the only way the Seahawks are
really going to make the playoffs is by winning the division,
and in my mind, if they don't win two of
these next three games, I think there's going to have
(24:45):
to be some long, hard questions about how deep do
the changes need to go? And then more specifically, are
you even in position to decide whether or not you
have a quarterback right now?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Because there's so much work to do on the roster.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Danie O'Neil with us and listen, Danny's got a former
esteem journalist, a high level of ethics and morals, so
when he answers this question, you know it will be true.
We did not rehearse. We did not rehearse this, did
we not? We did not rehearse this earlier in the week.
Not rehearse this, okay, because I've been saying that all week.
I've been saying this all year. In fact, I'll go
back to when it was when when Mike McDonald's hired.
(25:20):
There is this weird I hear people talk about this media,
people that I think are smart sometimes that say, well,
you know, I mean, it was going to be a
step back and they did not hire Mike McDonald coming
off a nine and eight season to go nine and eight,
eight and seven, seven and ten. They did not hire.
This was not a step back higher. This was Okay,
(25:42):
we've hit the ceiling with Pete. We need to take
that next step. That's what they did that You were
around that building forever in a day, as have I
been the word rebuild since Pete Carroll stepped in stopped
being used in twenty twelve, Like, that's not what they're doing, right.
They don't think in those terms.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And really it was about how do we take the
next step forward and get over this hump where we're
kind of high centered as a team that could make
the playoffs but probably isn't gonna be much of a
factor if they get there.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
And specifically it was this defense.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
The legion of boom Era ended twenty seventeen on a
Thursday night in Arizona. Richard Sherman, Cam Chancellor, and Cliff
Apral all played their last game as the Seahawks that game.
Since then, we've gone through at least three and maybe
four times where they've turned over the roster and said, okay,
we're kind of building it again. We're going to have
(26:41):
that defense again. And they've never consistently gotten good, and
so they changed the coach. And now you look at
that defense, their offense and the.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Offensive line clearly has problem.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It's an okay offense, it's still a bad defense.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
And they can't stop the run. And if you're gonna
tell me.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
That, man, they need to get the person now in
there to suit Mike McDonald's scheme. Okay, but you shouldn't
be getting worse like there should be problems.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
No, no, Well, and and I think you know what
you're in sinuy winning is what I think we've all
been thinking is And I'll say it like when the
hire was announced and when Schneider sat there at the
podium with Mike McDonald's it might have been actually when yeah,
that was with Mike McDonald, uh, because I think that
was the first time we heard from him after Pete
got let go news conferences run together. I'm old, but
(27:29):
I remember him saying, you know, like like I had
to sign off on this, and you know, Jody, you
know I had the conversation with Jody and Burt cold Well,
every one of us was saying the same thing there
that day. Danny, and you've sat in that same auditorium
with this, there's a group think mentality. But I think
we all were sitting there like, Okay, well guess what, John,
The next one is you. Yeah, you signed off. You
(27:51):
signed off on Pete getting let go, even though you
were underling to him. Technically you're the next guy. And
I mean I would be a little I love John Schnewder.
I'm sure you do. A great guy, but and he
built a super Bowl champion. But if it doesn't work
and it's a and you're right the next three games, man,
I mean, they could easily sit there in the next
(28:13):
three and be you know, six and five, seven and four.
They could also be four and seven, And if that happens,
it's going to be ugly at the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
The question of if this season really does go in
the tank, and I'm I'm optimistic and hopeful that they
are going to be better and they're going to get
I am to tackle, But if they're not, and if
this defense doesn't improve, specifically, like, there are going to
be some tough questions that you have to answer about, Okay,
how how how are you going.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
To improve it?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Because you've gone through several different reboots right now, including
a change of the coaching staff and the team, and
none of it has worked, So what's left to do? Well?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Then you have to start to looking at the guy
that's putting the pieces in place for the roster.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Tell people about the dang apostrophe, my friend.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
It is available at Danny O'Neil dot com. I try
and do some fun things. I also don't charge you anything.
If you want one, just once a week on Wednesdays,
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Speaker 5 (29:18):
But it's at Danie O'Neil dot com.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You're the best. Love these conversations. We'll do it again
next Friday, Sir, that sounds great.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Thanks so much for having me, and good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
To talk to you, Jackson. It's Danny O'Neil. Love having
him on. Great perspective, different voice here on this station,
and ton of fun you can react with. Danny had
to say four nine four y five one TeleVideo text line.
Disappointing basically, I'll sum it up for it. Disappointing at
the Huskies or at the Seahawks. Don't make the playoffs.
If the Huskies don't make a bowl game not disappointing.
Likes the direction your thoughts on that. We'll come back
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It's basketball, but it's uh. I'm gonna give him a
hockey stick tap if I can. Jackson, you know, we
had a historic great run last year and Washington State
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basketball and college basketball season kind of gets going in
earnest on Monday. Does Washington play Monday?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
He plays Monday Monday? Or is I know it's next
week where they open it up?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Oh? They played? They played Tuesday? They played? Yeah, yeah,
I think you see Davis on Tuesday. Was plays Portland
State on Monday. I bring that up for this read.
We had a great year last Year's a ton of fun.
I love college basketball. Our guy Gary Parrish will be
joining us soon. He's one of those guests that even
if you're not a huge college basketball fan, you listen
to him, he'll probably end up being a college basketball fan.
He's got that kind of enthusiasm for the sport. I
(31:41):
on college basketball podcast. He's down in Memphis, and I
was just texted with my guy Jalen Wells from Wazoo,
and we were trying to hold on to him. There's
nil money and all this stuff and what's he gonna do?
And and Jalen, Actually, I don't think I don't think
he actually ever went in the portal. I think he
was either going to come back and hang out with
his best buddy, Isaiah Watts, or go to the NBA.
(32:05):
He chose to go to the NBA second round pick.
He started last night, Jackson, how about this line in
his first career NBA start a guy that two years
ago was playing Division two basketball, not Division one. And
I'm even talking I'm not talking fcs like Big Scot.
(32:27):
He was playing D two. Think Seattle Pacific University, your
school or Central Washington. He was two years ago, was
playing D two. Kyle Smith found and brought him to Pullman.
Started last season kind of slow. By the end of
the year, he was your best player on the team.
Started last night in the NBA. First of all, I
figured he'd be a G league guy this year. Started
last night sixteen points, seven rebounds, five to nine shooting
(32:50):
from the field. Three to six from outside the arc,
hit three free throws. He was a plus seven on
the night as well. In a big shout huh, good
for him. A great guy. Apparently, great story, better story,
because basketball is all about one thing. Like people tell
you're gonna be an NBA player when you're in like
(33:11):
eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade. Right, you're like a
McDonald's all American. You're gonna be a first and remember,
an NBA unless you're a first round pick, there is
no guaranteed for a contract. Unless your name is Browny,
then it's different than you're Then you're okay. But yeah,
shout out to Jalen wells Man sixteen points and starts.
He's starting in the damn NBA.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
It's all about production, like right, Like, it doesn't matter
if you can create those numbers, if you can create
the plus specifically the plus minus numbers, if you can
do that for a team, you're gonna find a job.
And he's certainly he's your he's your prototypic he's today's
NBA player.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, Like he's six seven, he can shoot from the outside,
he can slash, he can get to the basket, he
can rebound and the dude's a stone cold killer man.
He does He's not afraid to take a shot, He's
not afraid of anything. I'm just I love it because
I love I'm small college guy. Big for a guy
to go to small call go to Pullman. It's not
like he had a great Division two career and goes Okay, Yeah,
(34:04):
I had this great D two career and now I'm
gonna go to Kentucky or Duke or North. He went
to Dann Pullman like and that was a passive step
up for him playing there and now here he is
two years later and he's he's doing what he did
in the NBA and dropping sixteen. So good for him
along the way. Uh gray stuff from Dan. What do
you think of Danny's thoughts today? Do you agree with
(34:24):
what he said about the Huskies?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, yes, yes, and no I would say like he
what The one comment I found really interesting was that
he likes Jedfish more now than he did at the
time of the higher. I was, you know, in the moment,
high on it because all right, you know, we need
an established guy to come in here, you know, settle
the tides, because it's just we are just raging Waters
(34:46):
at this point after the departure to Kaalen de boor.
This is an established guy who has feed in the NFL.
He's gonna bring established NFL coaches. And then this season,
like you know, the thought was, all right, you know,
we're gonna get to a bowl game. The only question
is can we surprise a couple people? Can we get
to seven to eight wins? And now we've we've gone
through the disappointments of Rutgers, which we saw big coaching mistakes.
(35:08):
We got through the disappointment of the Apple Cup, big
big coaching mistake. So it's I'm more disappointed right now.
That being said, it comes to tomorrow. If tomorrow, if
the Huskies win, then I'll flip back and say, all right,
let's get to a bowl game. Let's you know, turn
our attention to twenty twenty five and in finishing strong
and hopefully getting a win in a bowl game. But
(35:29):
right now, going the day before this USC game, I'm
not as happy with Jet as I was the moment
he was hired. But everything could change tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
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I'm good Ian Again. I was saying I could use
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here tonight till seven o'clock, all the way through Softy
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
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I need a beef lunch and I need a beef
dinner by the time I finished tonight.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, I tell you, how was your Halloween? Oh? Mike, well,
Jeff fin you know what? You know what I should
have had.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I should have had the clip ready from Kevin collabor
because I'll tell you Sana overd.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Are you still on the no beer but you're going
down the other road list? Yes?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, And at one point we were on the we
were on the track of just no alcohol at all.
We've we've we've lost that road a little bit. So
now the holidays coming up on his buddy, don't worry.
Troubling part of that is that we established kind of
a low tolerance by not drinking alcohol for three months.
So now I'm still trying to work back to the
tolerance I once had. And that made that made too.
(03:11):
You know what did I have? I had the canned
cocktails and the cutwater cocktails. Oh yeah, stuff yeah, and
to my ties last night. That was that was about
all I could do.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I know, I we you and Andrews and I had a
little session up at the Queen Anne Beer Hall a
month or two ago right for that. This was I
think it was a tapping. It was october Fest, the
tamping of the keg, the ceremonial tapping of the keg,
and and Jackson is just and I'm like, what happened
to the Jackson I've come to know in love? But uh,
you know, hey, listen, you do you I I'll tell
you one thing and I'll get to this in January.
(03:44):
I hate dry January. And here's why I hate it.
Here's all you have to do. Just moderation, man like
I like it. I go cause you know, there's been
too many times when I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna stant
a flat out overdid it during December or November and
the holidays or honest, look outside right now, look outside light,
and I'm gonna remind you life is short. Make your
(04:07):
own choices. Do you do you? But moderation's fine. Damp
January is fine, damp November is fine. Just do your
thing and in a way you go. But I was
wondering if you because I was working last night. I
got off, I got off of the cracking game and
got back to our neighborhood. We had a little gathering
in our neighbor's house swung by there, hung out for
a while, had a few glasses of wine, got back
home and uh next door and uh and uh and
(04:31):
and woke up this morning and I woke up this
morning and we have no internet. No internet. Oh yeah,
what happens? Well, who are the culprits tweakers? It's it's so,
I guess this is the thing. Now, this is like,
this is a thing. The tweakers are attacking all these comcasts,
substations and cell towers and things. Uh, it happened in
(04:53):
southeast King County, in Auburn or Kent last week, and
now it happened in Maple Valley and Comington today. And
you know, you forget how dependent you are on technology.
Oh yeah, right, Like I like, I'm like, okay, no
TV's one thing, but no Internet. And then you know
the cell service is like next to none. I'm trying
to figure out what's going on? Why is nothing working?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
And so yeah, it's you put yourself into a post
apocalyptic landscape when you go without internet.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
It's crazy. You know. When I first started doing this job,
like we didn't have any internet. That was back in
nineteen ninety nine. It was just like, you know, you
read a newspaper and you come up with a topic
and you hope somebody calls the radio station to fill time.
It's a different world now. But and then and then
I get my car and I've got a tire issue,
and so I have to drop my car off at
less Schwab. Those guys are awesome, but it's not gonna
(05:41):
get done, and I have to figure out how to
get up here or on my mother in law's car.
It's just like between that and the for Nest flood
of twenty twenty four, I feel like the luck has
to turn, like it has to cheep today. That's what
I'm gonna do, you know what. I don't need that
kind of encouragement Jackson, But damn you, I will do
exactly that. I'm going to do exactly that along the
(06:02):
way because it, like, I think everyone can relate to this.
At some point, don't you feel like your luck is
going to turn? At some point? It has to turn
at some point when everything seems to be going wrong.
And for us it started October third with the flood
and the malfunctioning dish or a washing machine, everything that
goes into that insurance company morons and pukes and everything else,
(06:24):
and this, Yeah, it's at some point. Not only does
your luck change, it has to change. It has to
get better, but at some point it has to get
really good, right, it can't. It has to. It should
go from one extreme to the other. I'm hoping, and.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
That's kind of the reason why I'm holding out hope
that the Huskies can beat USC tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And I wanted to get to that, and I want
to get to some point, right. Yeah, Mike Kog's are
off this week, and I want to get Daniel O'Neil's
going to join us at twelve twenty today we got
a couple more minutes. I wanted to ask you about
that and listen. This is not the Husky Show of
Record that starts at three pm today, but USC Washington.
I see here. I'm looking at this matchup on my
computer screen because thankfully this still call me Casino has Internet,
(07:03):
and I'm looking at this two four and four teams.
Washington thought they would take a step back. We all
know that, right. I mean, you lose Kaylen de boor
you lose Michael Pennix, three wide receivers of the NFL.
But you brought Jonah Coleman in and you brought Will
Rogers in. You didn't expect to not be a bowl team.
You expected to probably now maybe soft. You'll tell me
(07:24):
I'm a fool later on, but let's be honest. You
hired Jed Fish, an established coach. The whole we have
fifty one new players doesn't fly because what we have
forty nine at Wazoo, and I started looking across like
everyone's got forty plus new players because every year every
team has twenty five. Then you had the Portland of
that forty to fifty is not out of the ordinary.
That's today's college football. You expect to be a bowl team. USC.
(07:46):
On the other hand, they beat LSU on that neutral
site game to start the season. Lincoln Riley, Yeah, you
lost Kayleb Williams, but you have a new defensive coordinator,
a new attitude. USC expected to be pretty good four
and four two, and the way schedule set up, this
is a massively pivotal game for both of these teams,
isn't it It is?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's huge for them. We understand that for for us,
they're coming in with a lot, but for for you,
dubbed this is this might be the turning pointing in
because if we lose this, then I look at Pensatan,
Oregon and expecting to win either of those is a
absolute pipe of a pipe of a pipe dream. So
at that point, you know we're likely not making a
bowl game. We have one hope left for a win
(08:27):
and that's UCLA. So at that point, this this is
this is the hope for a bowl game. This game
right here and again going back, we've had so many
down moments this season, Apple Cup. It's got to change
some point, right We've got to come off. We've got
to win a game that we're not win like the
Rutgers game that you dub At some point this season
(08:47):
has got to win a game that they're not favored
to win, and right now USC is favored by a
point and a half. So I mean, listen, we gotta
do one of these rights.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
You know what, though, Jackson, I always want Like I
just thought, like we're talking about luck changing. Maybe this
is where, like the last two years, everything's gone your way,
like you, you know, like like the two Oregon games
specifically last year. Maybe you're due for what but maybe
this is your downturn. But you're right, like, and I
know there's a lot of people because of the twelve
team college football Playoff that are down on the bowl games.
(09:19):
Here's why ball games aren't gonna go away. Especially for
a guy like Jed Fish. They're very important because you
want those extra practices and you want to have that
extra month. It's one thing if like say last year's
Husky team didn't get to the college football Playoff and
they maybe they lost two or three games along the way,
(09:41):
and Pennix was gone, the three receivers are gone, You're
leading rusher from last year was gone a whole, but
your whole defensive front was gonna be gone. Like the
ball game may not have meant much for you guys,
because everyone would have would have opted out, Like there's
zero chance Pennix would have played. If anything right, probably
zero chance Rome plays and Jalen plays and all that.
But instead, you know, you get to that. So it's
(10:02):
different this year. You want Williams to have extra practices
if he decides he's gonna stick around depending on the
world of nil these days, who knows what's gonna happen.
You want all those extra practices, you know, for Wazoo
and Jake Dickard, it's the same thing. Like John Matteier,
they're expecting back next year. Well know though, because they're
a bull team and they're probably gonna finish you know,
ten and two, eleven and one. If John Matteiro hops out,
(10:25):
then we're gonna know what's going on there. But but
they but you want those extra practices. Those are vitally important.
Usc Lincoln Riley, it's a whole different world if Lincoln
Riley finishes six and six or God forbid for him,
although be kind of funny five and seven, because you
know that'd be all right. If that happens, then there's
a whole different conversation Jen Cohen's having down in Los Angeles.
(10:49):
They didn't hire Lincoln Riley to go six and six
or say even they probably didn't know what they certainly
didn't even hire him to go for seven and five.
And so it's a pivotal game tomorrow. It's a it's
a pressure pack game. And I would say tomorrow's game
for those two schools, probably more pressure on the two coaches,
but especially on Lincoln Riley, like especially on Lincoln Riley.
And if it's like it is today us, he ain't
(11:11):
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I am doing very well in it has been well.
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It was very close to.
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A perfect sports week here in New York because we
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Yeah, on Monday night, we had a Jets catastrophe.
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On Sunday we had the Yankees absolutely fantastic collapse. The
only thing that ruined it was that the Jets actually
got out of the mud in the second half last night.
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Otherwise it was going to be glorious.
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Kind of helps when Houston's missing its two top wide receivers.
But sure that Yeah, are we now back? Is a
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Or something.
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Yeah, it's gotten to a point where everybody like, no
one wants to hear from him anymore.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
They just want him to shut up and throw the football.
It's actually.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Just shut up, dude, you know what, You should just want.
Speaker 5 (13:01):
To hear about it. When I heard this morning, what
I heard this morning was a caller.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Said, and I have to sit here and listen to
Al Michaels talk about how well read a Rockets. Oh
my gosh, I don't question the volume of what he's reading.
Speaker 5 (13:16):
I questioned the substance. That's a man that reads books
without barcodes.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh oh my gosh. I want to get to our
teams in the second. But I am curious. You mentioned
the Yankees. What was the reaction back there? They got
beat by the Dodgers in five It should have been
a six game series. At least nobody blows five nothing leads.
They did, and the way they did it was in
(13:42):
historic fashion in that fifth inning. What what was the
reaction to, Probably, I'm sure a bunch of level headed
Yankee fans.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
It was these guys have been fooling us all year,
and all the things we knew about this team, how
they don't do the little things right, how they can't
run the basis, how this manager doesn't.
Speaker 5 (13:59):
Know what he's doing in the Superstar was an absolute disaster.
It all came back to buy us. That's the reaction.
It's delicious.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Did you tell them that it could be worse? And
let me point you to the team that's never been
to the World Series or they're located about three thousand
miles to the west up and it's near Alaska, it's
called Seattle. Did you point them that way? Do you
point them in our direction? No?
Speaker 5 (14:21):
I didn't. I was too busy going.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I went with the concern trolling. I've been told the
tactics where I said, like, I really, I really thought
you guys were gonna do it this year. It's been
so long since you won a World Series and it
seemed like everything was lining up and I'm just so
surprised you guys didn't play better in the World Series.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
It's been great.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
I love it. That is that Danny O'Neil Jonia's dang apostrophe.
All right, my friend, let's start right now with this.
We were just talking. We'll get to the Seahawks in
a minute, Jackson, were just talking. In the last segment,
And you know, I always hesitate to bring up husky
topics and husky segments because you know, oh, you know,
you're just trolling. You're doing I'm not, I'm I mean,
I grew up in Seattle. I grew up a Husky
(15:02):
fan and then went to Wazoo, and that obviously changes
a person immediately. But you know, I'm there. There are
team here in Seattle, so I am always I'm curious
what's going on and what the mindset is. Two four
and four teams play tomorrow, USC and Washington and then
shout out to my friend Greg. Belly just texted me something.
The buy out for Lincoln Riley's obscene. I guess I
(15:22):
don't know. If you can afford to pay for Lori
Laughlin's kids to somewhat go to school or whatever, live
on a boat, you can, you can. You can probably
buy out Lincoln Riley if you need to. I would think, right.
Speaker 5 (15:39):
Just sell a couple more admins.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm sure you could buy him out.
I'm sure the dude's sitting on the yacht that owns
whatever he owns, that got her kids in there, I'm
sure you could buy him. But let's just say, but
it's like two very different teams playing tomorrow in this
PAC twelve, Pac ten, Big ten whatever, we got matchup
at Seattle, which I mean, frankly, it's I'm saddened by it.
I grew up watching you. I'm one of the first
(16:03):
games I ever saw was Charles Davis at Husky Stadium
against the Huskies. I mean, I like, I it just
it's dumb. But whatever. They're playing tomorrow at four thirty
in the Big Ten, and it's two four and four teams,
which is neither team expected they would be there along
the way. USC certainly didn't. Washington knew there'd be a
little bit of a step back. So let's start with that.
(16:24):
You know, the Jedfish Washington year one, it's four and four.
What's Danny O'Neill u dubs alum's thoughts on the season
eight games in.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
It's been disappointing that they've lost. The losses to Washington
State and Rutgers were definitely disappointing. And I'm not gonna
say that they should have beat the Koogs because I
think that Washington failed, like clearly failed to win that game.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
They went out of their way to lose the game
at Rutgers. They had to work really hard to lose
that game.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
Yeah, the getting the butt kicked by Indiana, I didn't
see coming. But I actually think Indiana is a pretty
good team, and the Iowa loss.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
Is kind of the cost to do.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
I feel that I thought that kind of loss was
going to come in the game against Michigan. It ended
up coming at Iowa, but I didn't have any illusions
that there was going to be a game or two,
and there's probably another one coming down the pipe with
Penn State where they're going to get punked by a
much more physical team. I've generally been encouraged by some
(17:31):
of the things that I've seen from Jetfish, but I
also know that there are a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
And I host a podcast with Christian Cable and the.
Speaker 4 (17:42):
Followers of that, a lot of people who very clearly
see flashing warning signs and are less enthused about Jadfish
than they were when he was hired. Where I would
say that I was generally I understood the hiring, but
I wasn't excited about it. I actually like some of
the messaging that he's doing in the way he's handling it,
(18:03):
but look they've they've got a long road decline, and
they have two things. They need to rebuild this offensive
line and that's not something you can do in the
transfer portal. And they clearly, based on the aggressiveness of
their fundraising, believe they're at a significant financial and facilities
disadvantage within the conference.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Those two things are going to be very hard for
them to fight.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
But as for the on field products, like I see
some reasons to be pretty encouraged about it. So if
they lose this game, I don't expect them to get
to a bowl game. I think that they've got a
good shot at winning it. I've learned a long time ago.
You can't expect at Washington to beat USC because USC
(18:46):
is almost always going to have better athletes than you do.
They also tend to step on themselves and stumble. But
if they don't make a bowl this year, I'm not
going to consider this, oh my god, a flashing war.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Find that things are going to fail. It's going to
be disappointing, but knock the end of the world.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, I think you're coming off of college football playoff appearance.
He lost your coach and a bunch of players. Now
every school in the country's losing players. Every school in
the country's revamping every year, but not always with the
new coaching staff. So so there's certainly that I was.
I was watching another thing in town the other day
and it's, you know, there's this this. Do people not
(19:23):
like do Husky fans not like Jed Fish? You can
only speak for yourself, but you like the job he's doing, right,
You like the job what he's doing so far?
Speaker 5 (19:31):
I do. I have.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I he was the quarterbacks coach in twenty ten and
I for the Seahawks, so I covered him there and
I actually I didn't really, I don't want to say
he didn't. He rubbed me the wrong way, and as
a reporter, you're not supposed to take that into account,
and I think that I did. I worked pretty hard
(19:54):
to make sure that didn't come through in my coverage.
But both he and Jeremy Bates, who were the offensive coordinator,
I thought, we're kind of aloof and a little bit
antagonistic in a way that was unnecessary. So I wasn't
super pumped when he got the job, but in general,
and I would say even the public messaging, I like
(20:14):
him more now than I did when he took the job.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
I would point out to our younger folks in the audience,
all due respect to you know, you know, the man's
no longer with us. Don James wasn't the most likable
guy in the world. Like like I worked in the
media in this town. When he was coaching, he was
far from likable, if you want to go down that road.
He was like Calyn de bor is a really likable guy.
(20:39):
You don't have to have a gregarious, happy, you know,
great personality to Nick Saban. Hello, I mean Nick Saban
on ESPN game Day is not the same Nick Saban
was coaching. You know, you don't have to be, you know,
a fun guy or a great guy or all those
things to be a really good coach. Today's coach though,
is different too, Hantyani, because like I love our coach
(21:01):
in Poland, Jake Dicker's awesome and he's the opposite of
you know, well, whereas Fish maybe comes across as a loof.
I wouldn't even say ergant, just kind of a loof,
Dicker comes across like the opposite of that. But but
the other part of it, with Jake Dicker as a
Cougar fan, I'm like all right, dude, Like, are you
gonna like win down the stretch this year? Because the
last couple you know that has been the mo is
(21:23):
you get to five or six, seven wins and then
it just falls apart. I want a guy that wins.
I just want a guy that wins and can build
a program. And I guess now Dannyville more importantly keep
a program intact. That's almost the bigger job right now.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Yeah, I definitely think that's true. And I think that's
one of the things that I've liked about Jet is
that over the course, part of the strategy of playing
the number of players he has is I want to
keep guys getting involved, because that's going to keep them here.
If I just settled on had a small rotation of players,
you're going to have guys that are that are gonna leave.
(21:57):
And I think that makes a lot of sense. I
love the point that you made about personality. I would
expand it to players. You don't have to be a likable,
enjoyable public persona to be an extremely effective coach and
an extremely effective player. And the thing that matters most
is not your likability in a public sense, but your ability.
(22:18):
I think to be consistent to who you are and
to have that translate into on field progress and on
field success.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
I worried that Jed this year.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
Would throw up his hands when they ran into situations
in which they were outmanned and kind of say, what
do you expect me to do?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
We're working with what we've got. And I've felt that his.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Energy around the development of players and how they go
about tackling some of the challenges.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I've liked it.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
I've really I've been encouraged by that part of it.
So I think there, while there are some very obvious
shortcomings that this team has had and a tendency to
shoot itself in the foot, I would chalk them more
up to the situation he inherited as to any of
the things that he's done or mistakes he's made as
a head coach.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Danie O'Neil North's handling systems comes out us every Friday
at twelve to twenty. Dang aposterphe will tell you about
that in just a couple seconds. All right, So Danny O'Neil,
Husky alum, Husky fan. If the Huskies don't make the postseason, Okay.
Danie O'Neil, who worked here for many many years in
the market and as a beat writer and as a
radio host covering one Seattle Seahawks team, What would we
(23:29):
say about the Seahawks if they don't make the postseason disappointing?
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Yeah, very clearly, because this was not a rebuild situation.
I think clearly the Washington Huskies were rebuild. The Seahawks
were not. The Seahawks were a team that has been
fairly consistently good, but never great for a stretch of time.
And now they've switched coaches and it sure looks like
(23:56):
they have the exact same works that they had on
the offensive line and more concerningly with their defense. And
I'm not going to be someone who says, Okay, well,
Mike McDonald's just.
Speaker 5 (24:08):
Not up to the job.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I'm more looking at it and saying, like, maybe the
problems here were less in terms of schemes and approach
from the coaching staff and more in terms of the
horsepower and the personnels that they have.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
Because they've got their.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
Next three games and they have a buy sprinkled in there.
Their next three games are against the teams in a
division and this is the most adamantly resolutely mediocre division
in football. I think the only way the Seahawks are
really going to make the playoffs is by winning the division,
and in my mind, if they don't win two of
these next three games, I think there's going to have
(24:45):
to be some long, hard questions about how deep do
the changes need to go? And then more specifically, are
you even in position to decide whether or not you
have a quarterback right now?
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Because there's so much work to do on the roster.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
Danie O'Neil with us and listen, Danny's got a former
esteem journalist, a high level of ethics and morals, so
when he answers this question, you know it will be true.
We did not rehearse. We did not rehearse this, did
we not? We did not rehearse this earlier in the week.
Not rehearse this, okay, because I've been saying that all week.
I've been saying this all year. In fact, I'll go
back to when it was when when Mike McDonald's hired.
(25:20):
There is this weird I hear people talk about this media,
people that I think are smart sometimes that say, well,
you know, I mean, it was going to be a
step back and they did not hire Mike McDonald coming
off a nine and eight season to go nine and eight,
eight and seven, seven and ten. They did not hire.
This was not a step back higher. This was Okay,
(25:42):
we've hit the ceiling with Pete. We need to take
that next step. That's what they did that You were
around that building forever in a day, as have I
been the word rebuild since Pete Carroll stepped in stopped
being used in twenty twelve, Like, that's not what they're doing, right.
They don't think in those terms.
Speaker 5 (26:02):
No, they don't.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
And really it was about how do we take the
next step forward and get over this hump where we're
kind of high centered as a team that could make
the playoffs but probably isn't gonna be much of a
factor if they get there.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
And specifically it was this defense.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
The legion of boom Era ended twenty seventeen on a
Thursday night in Arizona. Richard Sherman, Cam Chancellor, and Cliff
Apral all played their last game as the Seahawks that game.
Since then, we've gone through at least three and maybe
four times where they've turned over the roster and said, okay,
we're kind of building it again. We're going to have
(26:41):
that defense again. And they've never consistently gotten good, and
so they changed the coach. And now you look at
that defense, their offense and the.
Speaker 5 (26:49):
Offensive line clearly has problem.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
It's an okay offense, it's still a bad defense.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
And they can't stop the run. And if you're gonna
tell me.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
That, man, they need to get the person now in
there to suit Mike McDonald's scheme. Okay, but you shouldn't
be getting worse like there should be problems.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
No, no, Well, and and I think you know what
you're in sinuy winning is what I think we've all
been thinking is And I'll say it like when the
hire was announced and when Schneider sat there at the
podium with Mike McDonald's it might have been actually when yeah,
that was with Mike McDonald, uh, because I think that
was the first time we heard from him after Pete
got let go news conferences run together. I'm old, but
(27:29):
I remember him saying, you know, like like I had
to sign off on this, and you know, Jody, you
know I had the conversation with Jody and Burt cold Well,
every one of us was saying the same thing there
that day. Danny, and you've sat in that same auditorium
with this, there's a group think mentality. But I think
we all were sitting there like, Okay, well guess what, John,
The next one is you. Yeah, you signed off. You
(27:51):
signed off on Pete getting let go, even though you
were underling to him. Technically you're the next guy. And
I mean I would be a little I love John Schnewder.
I'm sure you do. A great guy, but and he
built a super Bowl champion. But if it doesn't work
and it's a and you're right the next three games, man,
I mean, they could easily sit there in the next
(28:13):
three and be you know, six and five, seven and four.
They could also be four and seven, And if that happens,
it's going to be ugly at the end of the year.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
The question of if this season really does go in
the tank, and I'm I'm optimistic and hopeful that they
are going to be better and they're going to get
I am to tackle, But if they're not, and if
this defense doesn't improve, specifically, like, there are going to
be some tough questions that you have to answer about, Okay,
how how how are you going.
Speaker 5 (28:44):
To improve it?
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Because you've gone through several different reboots right now, including
a change of the coaching staff and the team, and
none of it has worked, So what's left to do? Well?
Speaker 5 (28:54):
Then you have to start to looking at the guy
that's putting the pieces in place for the roster.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Tell people about the dang apostrophe, my friend.
Speaker 4 (29:03):
It is available at Danny O'Neil dot com. I try
and do some fun things. I also don't charge you anything.
If you want one, just once a week on Wednesdays,
you can sign up and get it, no cost, no
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Speaker 5 (29:18):
But it's at Danie O'Neil dot com.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You're the best. Love these conversations. We'll do it again
next Friday, Sir, that sounds great.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Thanks so much for having me, and good.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
To talk to you, Jackson. It's Danny O'Neil. Love having
him on. Great perspective, different voice here on this station,
and ton of fun you can react with. Danny had
to say four nine four y five one TeleVideo text line.
Disappointing basically, I'll sum it up for it. Disappointing at
the Huskies or at the Seahawks. Don't make the playoffs.
If the Huskies don't make a bowl game not disappointing.
Likes the direction your thoughts on that. We'll come back
(29:47):
wrap up hour number one next Now back to.
Speaker 1 (29:50):
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Speaker 2 (30:07):
For a good Friday song on this Washington State Beef
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me Casino. Hey, let me give a quick shout out.
It's basketball, but it's uh. I'm gonna give him a
hockey stick tap if I can. Jackson, you know, we
had a historic great run last year and Washington State
(31:12):
basketball and college basketball season kind of gets going in
earnest on Monday. Does Washington play Monday?
Speaker 3 (31:17):
He plays Monday Monday? Or is I know it's next
week where they open it up?
Speaker 2 (31:21):
Oh? They played? They played Tuesday? They played? Yeah, yeah,
I think you see Davis on Tuesday. Was plays Portland
State on Monday. I bring that up for this read.
We had a great year last Year's a ton of fun.
I love college basketball. Our guy Gary Parrish will be
joining us soon. He's one of those guests that even
if you're not a huge college basketball fan, you listen
to him, he'll probably end up being a college basketball fan.
He's got that kind of enthusiasm for the sport. I
(31:41):
on college basketball podcast. He's down in Memphis, and I
was just texted with my guy Jalen Wells from Wazoo,
and we were trying to hold on to him. There's
nil money and all this stuff and what's he gonna do?
And and Jalen, Actually, I don't think I don't think
he actually ever went in the portal. I think he
was either going to come back and hang out with
his best buddy, Isaiah Watts, or go to the NBA.
(32:05):
He chose to go to the NBA second round pick.
He started last night, Jackson, how about this line in
his first career NBA start a guy that two years
ago was playing Division two basketball, not Division one. And
I'm even talking I'm not talking fcs like Big Scot.
(32:27):
He was playing D two. Think Seattle Pacific University, your
school or Central Washington. He was two years ago, was
playing D two. Kyle Smith found and brought him to Pullman.
Started last season kind of slow. By the end of
the year, he was your best player on the team.
Started last night in the NBA. First of all, I
figured he'd be a G league guy this year. Started
last night sixteen points, seven rebounds, five to nine shooting
(32:50):
from the field. Three to six from outside the arc,
hit three free throws. He was a plus seven on
the night as well. In a big shout huh, good
for him. A great guy. Apparently, great story, better story,
because basketball is all about one thing. Like people tell
you're gonna be an NBA player when you're in like
(33:11):
eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade. Right, you're like a
McDonald's all American. You're gonna be a first and remember,
an NBA unless you're a first round pick, there is
no guaranteed for a contract. Unless your name is Browny,
then it's different than you're Then you're okay. But yeah,
shout out to Jalen wells Man sixteen points and starts.
He's starting in the damn NBA.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
It's all about production, like right, Like, it doesn't matter
if you can create those numbers, if you can create
the plus specifically the plus minus numbers, if you can
do that for a team, you're gonna find a job.
And he's certainly he's your he's your prototypic he's today's
NBA player.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
Yeah, Like he's six seven, he can shoot from the outside,
he can slash, he can get to the basket, he
can rebound and the dude's a stone cold killer man.
He does He's not afraid to take a shot, He's
not afraid of anything. I'm just I love it because
I love I'm small college guy. Big for a guy
to go to small call go to Pullman. It's not
like he had a great Division two career and goes Okay, Yeah,
(34:04):
I had this great D two career and now I'm
gonna go to Kentucky or Duke or North. He went
to Dann Pullman like and that was a passive step
up for him playing there and now here he is
two years later and he's he's doing what he did
in the NBA and dropping sixteen. So good for him
along the way. Uh gray stuff from Dan. What do
you think of Danny's thoughts today? Do you agree with
(34:24):
what he said about the Huskies?
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yeah, yes, yes, and no I would say like he
what The one comment I found really interesting was that
he likes Jedfish more now than he did at the
time of the higher. I was, you know, in the moment,
high on it because all right, you know, we need
an established guy to come in here, you know, settle
the tides, because it's just we are just raging Waters
(34:46):
at this point after the departure to Kaalen de boor.
This is an established guy who has feed in the NFL.
He's gonna bring established NFL coaches. And then this season,
like you know, the thought was, all right, you know,
we're gonna get to a bowl game. The only question
is can we surprise a couple people? Can we get
to seven to eight wins? And now we've we've gone
through the disappointments of Rutgers, which we saw big coaching mistakes.
(35:08):
We got through the disappointment of the Apple Cup, big
big coaching mistake. So it's I'm more disappointed right now.
That being said, it comes to tomorrow. If tomorrow, if
the Huskies win, then I'll flip back and say, all right,
let's get to a bowl game. Let's you know, turn
our attention to twenty twenty five and in finishing strong
and hopefully getting a win in a bowl game. But
(35:29):
right now, going the day before this USC game, I'm
not as happy with Jet as I was the moment
he was hired. But everything could change tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
I love it. All right, We'll take a break, come back.
We had headlines for you. Then great co sale is
gonna join us. Coming up next night three point three
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