Paul Beattie Joins The Show - Episode #148

It’s Mother’s Day weekend at Emerald Downs! Great racing and prizes for the gals both Saturday and Sunday. All women are eligible for prize drawings – seven winners on each day. First race goes at 1:50 pm. An added Mother’s Day tradition at the track – a mare with her young foal to parade in front of the crowd. Racing is definitely on the upgrade at Emerald Downs this year. With eight races on Saturday and 10 on Sunday, plenty of excitement is expected. Field-size will be up this year, leading to better business all around. Paul Beattie of elisportsnetwork.com joins Joe and Vince to speak to his comprehensive coverage of the track. Sports shorts, selections and trivia, too, on Horseracing NW.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Come in much Us.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
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doesn't matter what you do or where you're coming from
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Mucosuit top of the street, Troupic stormalt, flate, throw and tison.

(00:52):
But here comes through Metropolitan, true Metropolita down the outside
washervan Troupic storming from Alanklana hab washer at it. Okay,
the dangers Wasserman's getting that posser man on the outside
a Tree Metropolitan take I about Wasserman takes the lead
through Metropolitan, mounting back Wassaman in front and Wasserman and
a purdet for Tree Metropolitan, then on the inside from

(01:13):
E store and a Freeway Friday finish.

Speaker 4 (01:16):
That was Wasserman winning the two thousand and eight long
Acres Mile, one of the great days in Washington State
thoroughbred history. Wasserman to be inducted into the Washington Thoroughbred
Hall of Fame August sixteenth this year, and he made
an appearance on the track leading the post parade for

(01:39):
race number four this past Saturday, Joe Withthie Vince Brun Vince,
did you see Wasserman out on the track. He looked like.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
About a three year old. He looked great.

Speaker 6 (01:49):
In fact, I've seen him back at the barn a
few times this year and he does. He looks like
he could enter a race and go and uh, twenty
three years old. He loves it here and you know,
and Jennifer Whittaker was on it. Coincidentally, Joe, Jennifer is
riding this weekend, first time since twenty twenty three. She

(02:09):
had that injury last year and it just wouldn't quite
be Emerald Downs without Jennifer Whittaker writing. And she's got
I think Settler's Cove in the first race Saturday and
then Firewalker in a good feature race on Sunday. She's
got our all time woman leading woman right with five
hundred and twenty five wins and twenty four twenty three

(02:32):
stakes wins and yeah, twenty four seasons with a win
at Emerald Downs, she's pretty hard to top.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Top on the list. One's at twenty three seasons. One
Goutera's our all time leading jockey. He had just two
mounts so far this season. He's got a couple of
live ones this weekend too. So we played Wasserman's win
and by the way, yeah, Vince. Then he came back
to the paddock. He never stopped prancing. He was on
his toes the whole time. You must have made twenty

(02:59):
circles in the paddock walking ring and he was completely
on his toes. He loves being around people, he loves
giving out, giving back, and he is just one amazing
thorough resorse.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Sometimes when they do that, the horsesn't get a little
bit excited. And I remember we had Wes Seattle Boy
or all time leader. He came over to the paddock
and he was getting a little excited. I know, Jesse
Velasquez got him out of there really fast. He said
it's time to get him back to the barn because
he was getting a little wound up. Their competitive Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:30):
We played Wasserman for many reasons, but another one was
because he's out of share the night and share the
Knight's progeny. At Emerald Downs have won forty six races,
led by Wasserman's eleven, and so it's mother's Day coming
up Sunday, Share the Night one famous mother and if

(03:51):
you stop by our Hall of Fame exhibit on track level,
we've got a pretty unique picture of six sons and
daughters of Share the Night. In two thousand and ten
at Howard Belvoir's barn, he owned Share the Night. He
was of course the owner, breeder and trainer of Wasserman,

(04:12):
but six different sons or daughters of Share the Night
were in training at Howard Belboir's barn in twenty ten.
We lined him up for a Mother's Day video back
then and we got a picture of that in the
Hall of Fame exhibit. Pretty amazing. We'll have another famous
Emerald downs producing mayor audio coming up in our second segment.

(04:33):
But it's our first two day race week, Vince and
we have got some really good racing coming up this weekend.

Speaker 6 (04:40):
Outstanding, and we said it's going to pick up and
it's going to get even stronger with Justin Evans now
on the grounds and a lot of guys heading up.
With the Arizona Turf Paradise closing last Saturday. We're up
over eight hundred horses now and we'll get up over
nine hundred here before too long and it is shown
at the entry booth. Competitive race seeing eight races on

(05:01):
Saturday ten on Sunday. You and I were just talking
about a nice feature race for Phillies and mayors on
Saturday with eleven head in there. Blaine Wright's got an Emerald,
Down's newcomer looks pretty good on paper. I got to
admit I read a cop worse, but it better show
up to run because there's some good horses in there.
Krema de meth Mis Dynamic, you know our Elilah Grace.

(05:23):
These are horses that have silvery orb they've held their
own around here.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Indeed.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
Oh yeah, just an outstanding Saturday feature and some of
the tracks better three year old's best three year olds
to run on Sunday as well. On that Mother's Day
card and it is Mother's Day weekend. We've got prize
drawings each day. All women are eligible. Fill out your
entry blank, gals, when you come into the track Saturday
and Sunday. We're going to have seven prizes each day

(05:51):
both Saturday and Sunday. Those drawings will be after the
fourth race, so get your entry blank in by post
time of the third race. Both Saturday and Sunday free
to enter and some nice prizes from Emerald Downs. On
Mother's Day weekend, we'll also have a mayor and full
out on the track. That's been a pretty nice tradition.

(06:12):
Patty's Secret was a multiple winner here at Emerald Downs.
She has a young cult by alternation and the Paps
Farm of Rick and Debbie Paps. They're going to bring
out mother and son, Patty's Secret, the Damn and the
very Young Foald by alternation as part of the Mother's

(06:33):
Day festivities. Pretty nice tradition here at Emerald Downs. Okay,
well yeah, just some really good racing first Rice Saturday
and Sunday at one fifty and Paul Batty's going to
join us a little bit later on today's horse Racing Northwest.

(06:53):
And Paul is of course the guy behind elisports dot
Com and just does some great stuff for Emerald Downs,
covering a lot of different angles.

Speaker 6 (07:05):
Fits sure does Joe and uh he produces just about
more than anybody out there. And he's on track a lot.
He gets involved right now by the Winter Circle. I
always like to hear what Paul has to say.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah, he's opinionated, he's he'll give you a what the
horse racing is all about opinions a lot of the time,
so he fits right in.

Speaker 6 (07:23):
We got some weekly honors Joe for the week. We
waited because we only had one day of racing the
first two weekends, so we kind of made that the
week one. So our first Valpak Jockey of the Week
winner is Kevin Krieger. He tripled, yeah last Saturday. He's
already got four wins. And Kevin was second last year

(07:44):
and you know a little story on him with the
Racing Club. We got a starter tomorrow. And what's the
first jock question A newcomer always asks a jockey? A
newcomer asked if they if they find out someone's a jockey,
what are they asking? Have you ever in in the
Kentucky Derby? And Kevin can say.

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yes, I have Golden Sense.

Speaker 6 (08:04):
Yeah, he rode Golden Sense and he won the Sandia
Derby on that horse. But Kevin's he's a really polished rider,
as you know Joe, and he's won just about everywhere
he's been Ohio, Florida, Northern California, Washington. But it looks
like he's going to be right up there in a
strong colony this year. Los Margarita's trainer of the week.
Speaking of guys boys for Big Ears, Tim Mchanna, he's

(08:27):
three for his first four at the meet. He's got
a bunch of horses on track and as well know,
Tim spots him to win, so he's he might make
a run at that title this year. Muchale Shoot Casino
owner Aaron Bresco, longtime owner Chrome's Best Copy. A nice
feature race win on opening day, Washington Bread Kire roy
Al Wait, Joe, I feel dumb when Kay Cooper pops

(08:49):
with the first timer that pays sixty seven dollars win easily,
and I'm standing there with a balloon in my hand
watching the parade go by. And that was a tough race,
but that was that was really impressed of that one
by Ada Boy Roy out of Magical Spell, who was
a pretty nice runner here. And she's out of Witchy
Meeting who has been a real good producer.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
Again Magical Spell almost beat a.

Speaker 6 (09:10):
Little less stack. Yeah, and this is her first foal
and stake it's a runner, So congratulations Rick and Debbie Papps.
They brought a nice one there and lost. Marg's Cafe
Groom with a week. Omar Munoz, he works for Charles Essex.
They had a nice feature race winner across the Causeway.
You know, on paper that race looked wide open, that

(09:30):
feature race last Saturday on Derby Day, and it played
out that way with a seventeen to one shot, just
edging out Uncle Leon at the wire.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
And you talked about PAP's Blue Ribbon Farm, and so
did I just a minute ago about bringing out the
mare in fool. But they were connected to so many
winners at Emerald Downs last weekend, either breeding the horse
or consigning the horse. So congratulations to perhaps Blue Ribbon Farm.

(10:02):
You know, maybe that was the first week but.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
But yeah, we was talking with Delbie.

Speaker 6 (10:07):
That was a good maiden special weight a field of
ten and uh, I think that was uh's just go
Monroy's first winning and announced to the writer.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I'm mixing up and yeah that race.
I think it was that race. I'm sorry, the fifth
race that the Paps farm, either bread.

Speaker 6 (10:27):
Or yeah signed, I know they had the one to
find your spot.

Speaker 4 (10:30):
Exactly, Yeah, find your spot. You know she ran well
from the one hole, but just couldn't stay with kiir
Royale the the Washington Bread of the week that you
just talked about from Kay Cooper. Okay, so Washington Bread
Honors there they are for the first time this year,
and we've have our again our first two day race week.

(10:52):
We'll pick up Friday nights. I think it's June sixth,
Friday night, June sixth, they'll be our first Friday night.
So we'll we'll be going Saturday Sundays for the next
several weekends. And just all the great promotions are upcoming again.
The stakes schedule is concentrated on four days this year,
and each each Steak Day has at least four stakes races.

(11:16):
At the twenty twenty five meeting, yeah we got two
with four and two with six.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
And that doesn't include our quarter Horse Day, which is
the day before the mile. But yeah, August seventeenth, for example,
the Long Acres mile ninety first running, that'll be one
of six steaks that day.

Speaker 5 (11:32):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
A couple other things to keep in top of mind.
Our Training Day video those of you that like that,
we have a new one that'll be available tomorrow. Training
Day wait a minute, Training Day will be available today
Today is Friday, May Night. That'll be available this afternoon,

(11:53):
and the podcast will be up and running tomorrow on
Saturday for those of you looking for it Friday. You
got to wait till Saturday for this one. But nonetheless
a lot of good information on Emerald Downs. The Lost Margeritas,
the Lost Marks Cafe has that same great ambiance and

(12:15):
just a little different menu this year run by Los Margaritas,
the popular Mexican restaurant just around the corner from Emerald Downs,
and they're open till the end of racing on Saturdays
and Sundays and open Wednesday, Thursday, Friday till two pm.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
You know what else they got there?

Speaker 5 (12:31):
Now?

Speaker 6 (12:32):
They got their license.

Speaker 5 (12:34):
Oh okay, that's official.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, so not just beer and wine you can get
Oh it's coming, so yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:42):
All right.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
And twelve percent takeout on pick threes is outstanding. That's
new for Emerald Downs this year, rolling pick threes. Twelve
percent takeout there and again penny breakage, so more money
being returned to winning wagers than many tracks in the country.
Kentucky started that a few years back. We picked it

(13:04):
up last year and it's it's a popular thing. The
Racing Club has yet to run a race, but you
can still join, correct you can.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
We have one in tomorrow in Race five Pacific Zip
okay in Philly and Mary, they're going a mile. That's
kind of a wide open race. Yeah, if you're interested
two five three, two eight eight seven seven two three
or vincebiat emildowns dot com. Still plenty of room and
plenty of time. Season just getting underway.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, and just a lot of people have gone out
on their own as solo owners after spending a year
in the club. That is you you treat them right
with all your different get togethers and barn tours, morning workouts,
shows and seminars. Even you usually make a field trip
every year.

Speaker 5 (13:53):
Yeahtcha.

Speaker 6 (13:53):
But we just want people to experience what any other
owner would experience here at the track. And even though
it's to one time, feel learn what your expenses would
be if you were to go out on your own,
so you kind of know going in what you know,
and then you try to recoup that by earning first
money and having a great time. And you know, sometimes

(14:14):
we forget the whole idea is to come out here
and have a great time.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
Yeah, and it's a family friendly place.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Again.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
We do have free parking on site and we will
shuttle you right up to the front door concession prices
very reasonable outdoor atmosphere, you can actually get up and
actually touch the pony horses as they wait to take
the thoroughbreds to the track, and get darn close to
the thoroughbreds as well in our beautiful paddock, which is

(14:43):
always in the sun when the sun's out. So Emerald
Downs twenty twenty five underway. Hey, just a little talk
on the Kentucky Derby. We had Anthony Stabille and John
White on last week, and Anthony just nailed the pretty
much a cold exact day. He liked sovereignty and journalism
for second, had no knocks on journalism, and so Anthony

(15:05):
did well. He was up there at the Mohegan Sun.
He had a nice happy weekend. John had it kind
of backwards. He had journalism on top, but he definitely
liked sovereignty as well, and both of them kind of
explained that sovereignty was a decent overlay. And he did
come down late, but he was still just under eight

(15:26):
to one in the wagering.

Speaker 6 (15:27):
Yeah, and those two and then a nice run by
Basa inexperience. He did belong in the race, as he
proved to get third. Sounds like sovereignty won't be running
in the Preakness, which is really interesting.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
You're going to talk about that next segment. Well, Cal
and you and me?

Speaker 6 (15:42):
Yeah, but yeah, I think you said it, Joe. I
think the top two both fired big races. I thought
Journalism got crowded a little bit early, but good ride
by Rispolli. He had his shot. I thought he was
a winner at the quarter pole. That was a big
movie he made. But Sovereignty was coming right well and
beat him on the square.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yeah, he got to save some ground Journalist him and
and then he had plenty of room there and got
off the rail when he wanted to and made a run,
but Sovereignty him fired.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
You know, Yeah, I don't run, Oh you bet?

Speaker 4 (16:11):
And uh let's see uh Baasa, you know I had
no knocks on him. I mean, if you watch the
Santa Neita Derby, Let's face it, there were some good
horses in there. Citizen Bull was in there and he
got his butt beat. And I think Barnes was in
there as well, who's highly talented. And Baaza was right
in there until the end with Journalism. So I mean

(16:33):
that that's a quality horse and he proved it. Boy
running real late. I texted a couple of friends. I
didn't make any money. Final Gambit was my top pick,
but in my text I had Journalism, Final Gambit and
uh baasa and they finished second, fourth and third in

(16:56):
that order. But you know, Final Gambit another couple seconds here.
It wasn't a great pick because even though he won
those two impressive races at Turfoy Park, including their best
race of the meat, he drops back to last. So
you drop back to last in a twelve horse field,

(17:17):
you got a task and he pulled it off very impressively.
He's well bred brad Cox trainy, but in a twenty
horse field he's going to drop back to last as well,
which he did. And now you've got all those horses
in front of you. I mean, that's just his style.
The jockey says, okay, go ahead, go you go, you go,

(17:38):
you go, and you know he got crossed in front
of it the break, but it didn't really matter because
he was going to drop back to last. So a
horse that intentionally drops back to last, there's not many
other than turbulator that can pull that kind of stuff off.
So you know, I probably didn't should have got off

(17:58):
him at seventeen to one. You kind of got to
demand a little higher odds in that on a horse
that's going to do that anyway. You really made a
huge run, but it was never really in it.

Speaker 6 (18:08):
Yeah, at the final analysis, I think the two best
horses running one two, and they were kind of that
way on paper, and I thought they both ran great.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And you know, I.

Speaker 6 (18:20):
Feel bad for journalism's connections Michael McCarthy and Ears Foley.
And you know, it's hard to win a Derby and
you do everything right all the build up and then
you know you're making a big move and then ah weet,
I'll finished. But the old cliche at the end of
the day, I mean, what could they have done different?
They trained the horse great, the horse looked great, he
ran great, and he got beat here nothing to hang

(18:41):
his head about it. It was a fine run. He
just got beat by a better horse. And looking back
at those races in Florida with sovereignty, you know, he
made an awful lot of sense the way that track
favor speed at Goldstream Park and those late runs he
was making and the hand Bill Mott, the trainer, he
you know, it was hard to have any knocks on
him either.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
Definitely.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
Yeah, Sovereignty takes the Kentucky Derby. I know John and
Anthony both like good cheer a lot, and she drifted
up and paid something like for eighty and I think
the biggest reason for that was is that Torpedo Anna
got beat earlier on the card too. People are looking

(19:23):
at each other and saying, well, these horses aren't invincible,
these philies aren't.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
Right and now for eighty men that sounds a lot
like a lot. But when you look at her pps,
my gosh, if you liked her that and and you
know that was kind of a gift.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
One more thing on Sovereignty. He's the third son of
Into Mischief to win the Kentucky Derby. That's pretty darn
impressive right there. In fact, that sure is.

Speaker 6 (19:48):
And another Derby thing about breeding by Asa that's the
same dams as.

Speaker 4 (19:55):
Maids right Age and Mystic Dan.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Yeah so both of those don't.

Speaker 6 (20:01):
No I know is that made so in the last
uh uh oh?

Speaker 5 (20:05):
But there was another one last year that was real problem.

Speaker 6 (20:07):
Yeah. The last three years the horse has a first
and a third in the Derby, which isn't too bad exactly.

Speaker 4 (20:12):
So we did have a significant passing in the thoroughbred industry.
We'll get to that in our next segment, and we'll
take a time out right now and come back with
Paul Beatty in segment two of horse Racing NORTHWESTOS.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
It doesn't matter if you love crabs, blackjack machines or
dining on the finest Asian, American and Salish cuisines. It
doesn't matter what you do or where you're coming from.
What you do is all at Muckleshoe, an easy drive
from wherever you are, All roads lead to Muckleshoe.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Mucosuit.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
And down the Ceta Hoist and running on his Jabrika
winning machine late Macus finale, Gabrika, why not be perfect
at Hoist winning machine tackled by Japrika and why not
be perfect Vecus finale inside Jabrika coming on the center
and Jabrika's Poundstone winning machine running on late strike at
PhD but Jabreca in front and Jabrika from strike at PhD.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
That was Jibrika winning the Budweiser in twenty thirteen over
a stellar field at Emerald Downs, including striker PhD, who
rattled off several seconds in Stake's company that year before
running second in the mile to herbied and then winning

(21:41):
the mile the next two years. But Jabrika beat a
big field. We played that because Jibrika is out of
Peaceful Wings, one of fourteen separate horses out of Peaceful
Wings to win a race at Emerald Downs. What a
tremendous record is almost sounds unbreakable. But Jabrika is one

(22:05):
of those, and Peaceful Wings has forty six progeny wins
at Emerald Downs, tied with Share the Knight, who we
played at the top of the show, Wasserman winning a
son of Share the Night. Okay, I better quit talking
about that because I'm went about and getting convoluted. But
I think our fans have heard those names before and

(22:27):
are quite familiar. And our fans have also heard and
seen Paul Beatty at Emerald Downs over the years and
most every weekend, and many of you go to ELI
Sports Network and get Paul's great coverage of Emerald Downs,
and Paul joins us here on Horse Racing Northwest.

Speaker 5 (22:48):
Paul, good, afternoon, Well.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
How you doing guys, Very good.

Speaker 4 (22:52):
Bill, good to have you on, and Paul, I know
you're just optimistic for another season at thoroughbred racing.

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Absolutely and off to a great great start. I think,
you know, there was initially a little bit of concern
because we had heard about the additional horses and you
know from northern California and for Paradise. But the opening
day card was a little light on entries, but that

(23:21):
didn't slow down the betters at all. That they that
really well. And then last week I think people started
to see just what the season is going to be.
It was a great You could see horses were ready
to go, and that per race average jumped up a
lot from day one to day two. And now just

(23:45):
thinking about I'm sure there are several horses in transit
as we speak that are headed up this way. So
it is voting well, I think for really really solid,
solid season rasing.

Speaker 5 (23:58):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
As Vince mentioned in our first segment, justin Evans horses
on the Track, Joe Toy of course one of our regulars,
and several other barns that are regulars, the Emerald Downs
that campaigned down at ur Paradise in Phoenix, and yes
their meat ended on Kentucky Derby Day last Saturday. But
you know, we all have our own angles and we all,

(24:23):
all three of us that are on this podcast Vince.
Myself and Paul, we like the statistical edge on things
and applying that to our outlook on racing and and
Vince Paul certainly does that pretty darn well.

Speaker 6 (24:38):
Paul gets involved and he's got opinions, and he what
I like Paul. He he's he rolls the sleeves up,
he's involved down there, he's talking to people, interviewing people,
and right in the middle of the action. And the
amount of coverages, in a word, prodigious.

Speaker 4 (24:55):
It's fantastic. Yeah, And well, uh, it applies, and you
know it does. And uh, Paul, what's currently on your
site after the first couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Well, I'm excited to see, uh, you know, the new
jockey room. You know, Joe, I'm a I'm a big
you know big. Of course, the horse has a whole
lot to do with the outcomes of races, but I
also really like to take a look at the human
connections and when humans are successful on a regular basis,

(25:34):
there's usually a reason for it, and it's not a fluke.
And so you know, to see like the five time
straight champion Alex Cruz get off to a slow start
and then break the ice to get in there. You
saw some we have seen some new faces. We've seen
some faces that we thought might be here but aren't here,

(25:55):
you know. But I think Francisco Duran uh is a
big addition. And then uh learning about Francisco Monroy who
brought in the big long shot on Saturday for Kay
Cooper uh and uh uh. And then the new guy
from uh A a guy his name's escaping me but

(26:18):
back from the New York area.

Speaker 5 (26:20):
Oh hall Dark.

Speaker 6 (26:22):
Yeah he's Valley.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
Yeah, yeah, he had he had a good start. He
didn't quite get a win, but he was right in
there for a couple of them. The new apprentice. We're
expecting many Americano back as well. He was here opening
day and then of course he won the writing title
at Turp Paradise and was there for closing day in
Kentucky Derby. So a lot. And then from the training aspect,

(26:46):
just we had a lot of new names last year
and now even more this year.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
Don't forget Frank Alvarado either. He was in the key,
was having some coffee in the kitchen today and he
brings his four thousand wins here. He begins writing here tomorrow.
So your point is well taken. Paul it's gonna be tough.

Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fun. And then you could see,
uh some of our old regulars ready to get after
it as well. Kevin Rosco one good year, Scott back
on a couple of horses for the first time on Saturday,
and you know the list. You know, Carlos, Uh, Carlos
will be back. I believe as well. Yeah, I'm on

(27:24):
to ovel. He was down finishing up I think at
Urf Paradise last weekend or or close to it. But
I had a chance to talk to uh friend or
Tom Wenzel on opening day and he said he actually
still had several down there. So you know, he doesn't
run the largest barn, but it's a it's a pretty
darn good barn. And uh uh and you know, I

(27:46):
just you just get a feeling, uh with the start,
the size of the crowds. The first two days have
been incredible. Uh, the betting handle has been really good.
And so I'm excited for this year. I think this
is gonna be a fun, fun year.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
We're going to have a great year.

Speaker 4 (28:06):
I mean, to get in the field. Size is so important.
Average starters per race is going to be up with
all these new barns and so and the attractiveness on
field size is a great start. And then the placement,
unfortunately Northern California is bear. We all hated to see

(28:27):
that happen starting last year, but it puts Emerald Downs
in that kind of in between the Southern cal races
for when the East Coast tracks are over, we get
a better presentation. So we're going to get more eyes
on us, and we're going to get more attractive eyesed
because of our field size. And so, yeah, it's going

(28:48):
to be a fine season at Emerald Downs. Let's enjoy it.
We're off to an excellent start. Gary Doherty mentioned about
an hour ago that there's twenty one jockeys named to
ride on Sunday, which is a huge number at Emerald Down.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
It is.

Speaker 6 (29:04):
Yeah, it's going to have to sort itself out a
little bit here as we go on. But right now, Paul,
everyone is looking to make an impact. So you want
to get on the radar early when a season begins.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know, and the one that sticks
out to me is Pablo Castillo, Right, wasn't it the
new Apprentice? And I understand he probably has a little
more experience than a regular apprentice writing and I think
some non recognized tracts and now here you can see

(29:40):
that he knows how to ride and got his first
win and it was what his second right of his
career and on opening day and had a couple of
good rides on this last Saturday too, and of courses
with longer shots talking to a couple owners and they go.
I asked him about them to go. You know, we

(30:02):
know he can ride and getting the weight allowance kind
of attractive, so watch up, especially if he's on a
long shots he might sneak a few in there.

Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, any any apprentice that gets confidence or gets the
eyes of training. Hey, that kid, you know brought that
long shot in for third. Hey that kid brought that
long shot in for second. You know, and even better, uh,
you know, you get some weight off and they get
their opportunities and look at Max.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You know, I will you know again playing Human Connections,
Joe and I got to say, I am absolutely kicking
myself from last Saturday to allow Kay Cooper and the
first time start.

Speaker 6 (30:43):
We already beat ourselves up over that one.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
Yeah, yeah, to get by at thirty two to one,
you know, without you had I even noticed, I would
have thrown five bucks on her, just to make sure
to make sure, because she's not going to have too
many thirty two to one shots to begin with.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
That's our whole point. Though, with a bigger field size,
you're going to have horses slip through the cracks like
that because you simply cannot bet them all.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
Yeah, and that was a ten horse field.

Speaker 1 (31:10):
Well you couldn't. My grandfather could. That's why you always
had a winner.

Speaker 6 (31:14):
But hey, Paul, speaking of speaking of wagering, you know,
we got some horse players out there listening, and you
know what you're doing at the windows. There's what's a
couple of your favorite wagers here at Emerald Downs.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
I got to tell you, I always I love the
Superfecta and I love the fact that it can be
a dime if you want to really go deep and
you think that there's some shots in it. But first thing,
generally when I bet the Superfecta is I try to
reduce it to an exacta because I usually hit all

(31:48):
in all for third and fourth, and being able to
bet a dime or twenty cents or something like that
allows you to do that, and you can see you
can get the favorite and a second favorite to come
in one or you know, first or second. But then
if you get a thirty to one shot or a
forty to one shot or you know, a fifteen and

(32:10):
twenty something to come in third and fourth with these
bigger fields, that super Effect is going to pay well
this year. I just think it's going to pay really
well this year, and it's something to keep an eye
on because you can do it relatively cheaply, especially especially
if you do have a favorite that you really like
on top. This is a way to try to make
more money off of a favorite than just trying to

(32:33):
bet it straight. You know, this is a chance where
you can pick up some additional money by instead of
betting a fifty dollars win on it, spending fifty dollars
on super Effect is with it as the loan. Single
horse can get you a lot of different combinations, and man,
if you hit a good one, you can get it

(32:56):
more than once twice, three times you'll get a fifty
cent at the dollar superfected going if you can there we.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
Go, there we go.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
I thought it paid a little light in the Kentucky
Derby sixteen hundred for a dollar but you know, the
favorite did run second, so but yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
The third favorite one that was the thing is those
three and then I who ran.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Thirteen to one on by Isa. Wow, he went off
under fourteen to one and then final gambit was seventeen
to one. So yeah, you're right, the third favorite did
win over the over the favorite, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, yeah, and it's still paid sixteen hundred.

Speaker 5 (33:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:35):
Well, Paul, keep keep an eye on ELI sports dot com,
and you know Paul will lead you toward some real
statistical angles at Emerald Downs. Over the years, trends with
jockeys and trainers for the most part, so that's a
good thing.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
I'll tell you what my favorite it's a stat but
it's it's it's not going to help you win. But
I'll say of my favorite thing over the weekend Saturday
was I believe that the lowest daily double was paid
off for the season and I also believe the highest

(34:15):
daily double was paid off for the season in the
same day. I don't think either one are going to
be top. With forty nine race days left to go,
we had a three dollars and fifty cent daily double
paid after the first and second races, and then we
had a single winner seventeen hundred dollars. In fact, that
daily the pick five so far this year hasn't paid

(34:36):
as much as that daily doubles.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Yeah, the daily double from uh let's see that was
races five and six right now right here Royale at
thirty two to one or thirty three to thirty two
to one, and then the sixth race crossed the causeway
was seventeen to one.

Speaker 5 (34:54):
One ticket took the whole pool.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Yep, that was almost I think it was around seventeen
hundred and three dollars.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
You think, Hey, one other thing I want to mention
with Paul and Joe. You know this well and b
U I sports is more than just horse racing too.
If any people out there have children or grandchildren involved
with high school sports, man oh man, Paul, you guys
have it covered.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
We are. It's this is our third busiest time of
the year. We have a district soccer and baseball and
fast pitch and track and field going. And by the
end of the month though, it's all over and I
can totally focus on Emo downs. So about three more

(35:38):
weeks of craziness here bouncing back and forth and then
but yeah, we we do the live streaming for the
w i A on on many of their championships. We
follow up with regular stories and additional coverage of the
games that we cover and more. And I've got some

(36:00):
young guys, young folks they should say, that are fresh
out of college, that are looking to uh figure out
how to get in the sports media business. And it's
tougher than ever before right now. And so we've got guys.
I've got a young man that loves hockey's he covered
the crack and all year. We've got another one that

(36:20):
loves the Mariners. He's covering the Mariners. We've got folks
that go in and uh and follow the Sounders. I
got another young man that loves golf and he's covering
regional golf and so all these state golf, you know,
and uh and and people that are in the local
clubs and stuff, and some of the big local tournaments,

(36:43):
he's covering those and uh. And of course I've got
Emerald Downs. So yeah, we like uh uh yeah, and
we're Vince Joe. We're old school. I still miss being
able to open a big, huge sports section.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Yeh.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And finally just reading, you know, reading reading everything you know,
uh and uh. And that's that's the part that I'm
trying to bring back, at least for the horse racing
side of things. As a as a kid, I love
the fact that during long acre season you could read
something about horse racing every single day because on Mondays

(37:20):
would have the results of Sunday, and Tuesday would have
the entries for Wednesday, and then of course Wednesday would
have rect Thursday, Thursday would have the results and the entries.
So there was at least always something in the paper
about horse racing.

Speaker 6 (37:35):
I remember they used to even have the workouts in
the paper.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
So yeah, yeah, and a lot of them. Yep.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
Absolutely, and people like to take a look at the
betting man to the p I always had a banning
man absolutely yeah, so yeah, exactly so Paul Batty, Yeah,
ELI Sports Network, Paul. Just in the last few days,
shoot one kid, a guy I know, we had a

(38:00):
little get together, and yeah, his kids are in high
school sports. And he goes, yeah, Joe, I heard you
on the the Takoma Dome.

Speaker 5 (38:07):
You did a really good job, you know.

Speaker 4 (38:10):
And then just yesterday, unfortunately, I went to my uncle's
memorial service and his kids he went today and he
had three friends that went to Oday there that were
supporting him, and another guy and his his son. Last
name is Salapak. I forget the guy's first name, but
he was a big part of Oday's championship foot and

(38:32):
they were talking about Yeah, yeah, I watched the game
on NFHS, and I go, yeah, I didn't do that game,
but I've done several games for the guy that runs
the local version of NAFHS.

Speaker 5 (38:41):
Oh you do.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
And yeah, so there's a couple of hits for you
right there. Those guys are watching.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
Anyway.

Speaker 4 (38:48):
Yeah, it's a it's a really fine opportunity. You can
get in for a month and get right out if
you want. But it's you can watch the game live,
you can watch it replayed as many times as you want.
You can watch the best player from Louisiana if you
want too.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, And just you know, we were just talking,
I mean again a couple of years ago. For you know,
for number one, we like to tell people, you know,
I'm glad that they watch us, but go to the games.
We need fans at the local games and then come

(39:24):
back and watch the replay or when you just can't go.
That's that's when we're when we're there for you. Yeah,
but think about this, just a few years ago, you
could have gone and for seven bucks. You could have
gone in and watched some kid named Polo Banko play
for seven dollars. You played at East Side Catholic right oday. Yeah,

(39:45):
he was at oday. So he's at oday. You can
go and watch him. You could have watched him in
the in the Tacoma Dome for I think to get
in for the state championships with twelve or fifteen bucks. Now,
now what is he? I mean, look at you know,
he's the NBA Rookie the Year.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
Uh, it's got a max contract coming up exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
And he's right here in our backyard. And and as
you you know, you're your new best friend. Jamal Crawford,
uh uh, you know played at Rayner Beach and they
just had the w A had their Hall of Fame
induction ceremony on Wednesday up at lumen Field and Nick Hoffman,

(40:26):
the executive director, was talking about, you know, Jamal Crawford.
You know, when when asked about what his favorite you know,
sports memory is, he goes right to Rayner Beach. It's
not college, it's not the pros. It's his time at
Rayner Beach, Polo Ben Carrol. They asked him, and it
wasn't even a basketball memory. It was a memory when
he played football for Oday. Wow, you know, And and said,

(40:49):
this is where you know, high school and and Joe,
you know, I throw out what I call the ninety
five percent rule. We're here to cover the ninety five
percent and the night five percent. The NCAA will tell
us about five percent of all high school athletes will
go on to play any kind of college sports, meaning

(41:10):
ninety five percent won't. And I go, let's talk about
the five percent that are gonna are gonna be taken
care of, and they're going to be recognized, and they're
likely going to be recognized on their teams in high
school because that's why they're in the five percent. But
let's spend some additional time for that kid that's going

(41:31):
to lace them up one more time and never play
organized sports again because he's graduating and he's got to
and he or she they've got to move on and
do other things and it's just not you know, they're
just not going to do that. So but those memories
that are created and the friendships literally are lifelong. And

(41:54):
if people don't believe that, Joe, I can tell them.
I don't know how many times I've done a game
with you. And I'm going it's about time to go on.
Where's Joe While he's talking to his fifth person that
he's he remembers from either high school or playing against
somewhere and reminiscing. And I have to yell at Joe, Joe,
we're going on, and you'll come running over to get on.

(42:16):
But it's just it's just one of those things that
lasts a lifetime, and that's that's the beauty of it.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
Yeah, And so NFHS ELI Sports Network, High School Sports
of course taking a break coming up pretty soon. Paul
be covering Emerald Downs thoroughly, and Paul, as we talked about,
and he's not afraid to let his opinions be known,

(42:44):
and I did just yeah, you know, Paul. You know
horse racing twenty twenty five, there's been a lot of changes,
tracks closing unfortunately, hesa coming in and downs. You know,
we had a couple of great long acres. Mind, I
don't know, is something come to mind to you that

(43:07):
possibly could be an easy fix for at least one
problem in racing and maybe put us on a better
track in one area.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Well, if we're talking about Emerald Downs, first of all, no,
there isn't an easy fix. I don't believe it, and
simply because the easy fix would be for the entire
industry to get together is one and to have a
single voice, and that's been made very clear that that's

(43:36):
not going to happen. And I don't believe there's any
interest in that happening from especially the tracks east of
the Mississippi. I don't think that the tracks east of
the Mississippi care one bit if any tracks to the
west exist anymore. They really don't. Therefore, we're kind of
out here on our own. And Joe, we've talked about

(43:58):
this many times. Think about this. Think about all the
tracks in nineteen eighty along the West coast, and now
the closest track from the closest track to Santa Anita
is Emerald Downs. Yeah, that's the closest one along the
West coast. You've got Del Mar, got Los Alamados, you've

(44:21):
got Santa Anita, and now Emerald Downs. Everyone else is gone.
There might be a fair meet here there in a
short meat at Grant's Pass, but that's it. There's no
one else left and we're especially on an island up here,
and all I can say is we continue to do
the hard part the best, and that is getting people

(44:43):
to come to the track. And it is a combination.
I know, the promotions a lot of people love, and
others they think they're a bother. But I think over
time now we have all seen that we need both
and emo downs and long acres and everyone here in

(45:06):
the Northwest for decades have done it right. There's always
been a crowd for horse racing in what in Washington State,
and if there still is the crowds that we've had
over the first two days. Can you imagine if Horseshoe
Indianapolis could ever have half the crowd we have. And
when you go there, there's like six people there. It's

(45:30):
you know, you look at some of these other tracks,
ten national who goes to that thing? No one does,
but they're they're being fed by other way. So we
have to make sure we stay together here. We can't
split alliances. We can have different ideas on how that's
to approach things. But remember this is this is an opportunity.

(45:53):
As you kind of mentioned Joe with without Northern California
around anymore, and I don't think they're coming back. There
may be they may get a fair meet there if
they're lucky next year, but I don't know, Excuse me,
I don't know if that's ever coming back. I don't
know how long term Paradise is going to be around.

(46:14):
They're there for another couple of years, but after that, well,
you know that could change.

Speaker 6 (46:18):
In a hearty We got one piece of good news,
I think, in that it was announced that the twenty
twenty eight Olympic Tressage will be held at Santa Anita
Park and that's strong for one reason. It kind of
gets away the immediate doubt about the future of racing
in southern California. Look, they're going to be there. I

(46:39):
know it doesn't sound like a lot, but through twenty
twenty eight is something, and that's big. And Turf Paradise
did get a reprieve a few years ago, and I
think their meats have been pretty strong the last couple
of years. And thank goodness for them because it creates
a nice circuit between Emerald Downs and Phoenix. You get
Phoenix in the winter, Seattle in the summer. The purses

(46:59):
are kind of equivalent. I'll take the atmosphere at Emerald
Downs over Turf Parodise six days a week and twice
a day on Sunday. But it gives our horsemen a
viable option to go there in the in the winter
most definitely. Yeah, and I heard from a good source that, uh,
Turf Paradise they're they're spending some money on some infrastructure

(47:21):
improvements during their off season. That would be true mins summer. Yeah, Yeah,
there's no reason Phoenix shouldn't do well. Yeah, that's a good.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Sign, that is. But with with the owner, you know,
if a if a better offer comes along. And that's
the scary thing about Los al Is. I think once
that owner is.

Speaker 6 (47:43):
No longer here, talk already, you.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Know, I think I don't think his family has any
interest in holding on to it doesn't sound like it.
But that doesn't mean things can't change for there and
and again for if Paradise, you know, and and uh,
you know, speaking of investment, the Muckleshoote tribe has invested heavily,
and a lot of people forget the massive amount of

(48:07):
debt that there was when they took over and wipe
that out. So it's not only what they put in yearly.
And I know there's some talk, well maybe they should
put in more, you know, well, this is what they're
able to do or and remember they put in an
awful lot just to take this over and it is solvent.
From that standpoint, can we do more? Yes, I still

(48:30):
believe that piece of legislation that that should have passed
and is a strong bill. I still think going back
to the legislature at some point pointing out that this
is the only industry that's actually paid for itself. There
aren't billionaires here, but yet you keep servicing billionaires in Seattle,

(48:51):
building them anything they want and everything else. All we're
asking for is to be able to use some of
the money that we generate ourselves back into the industry.
And I think there's a strong argument for that, and
and that needs to continue to be made and see
if we can get some additional help from there, and

(49:12):
and and I think the biggest thing Joe and Vince
is don't feel like you are there's nothing that you
can do. The first thing you can do is continue
to support racing by coming as often as you can
and and just coming through the gates is such a
huge part of it. It is such a big difference

(49:34):
than sitting at home and playing online or what have you. Now,
when you can't get there, that's that's understandable. It's a
great option that you can still participate but get to
the track, continue to show that this is this is
something that is wanted. It is part of the fabric
of Western Washington and Washington State overall. And we're still here,

(49:58):
and you know, there is a great opportunity for this
to even I think a chance in the next couple
of years. We get this thing going and we get
some you know, uh, you get some things to fall
our way for once. Uh you couldn't. You could see
the breeding industry start to come back a little bit
as well. And and those are the things that I

(50:21):
think are are still on the table.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (50:25):
As people look around, there's not any I mean, it's
not like you're going to playfair. It's not like you're
running over to court a Lane. It's not like you're
headed down to Bay Meadows. This is it. Yeah, uh
And and I guarantee you there's not going to be
another one of these tracks built in Washington State in
our lifetime, you know, and likely ever, so this is

(50:49):
what we have. Uh, you guys continue to put on
a great afternoon of entertainment. The fans are responding, they
get it, you know. And and for the cost, uh,
the entertainment costs that Emerald Downs provides, it's not even
close for professional UH sports. Uh. And and you know,

(51:12):
more and more people are seeing it, and I you know,
I think there's there is a resurgence. Even though that
the crowds have never gone away, it feels like it
just feels different to me this year. And and there's
a real positive Yeah, I agree steel to this whole
season coming into it. I know there's a lot of

(51:32):
other talk going on, and we're not going to talk
about that in our coverage. And and I'll tell you
some of some of the national uh racing you know,
media outlets. I go, geez, don't can't you ever report
on anything fun? Can't you report on anything positive? It's
just negative, negative, negative, And I don't understand how that's

(51:54):
helping our industry in any way, shape or form. So
we're not going to do that. We're going to talk
about the fun things. We're going to point out uh
great you know, great efforts. Uh. You know, we're going
to talk about jockeys and trainers and owners and and
I got a great Uh. I got a great email

(52:14):
from Michael Stark, the owner of a Cross the Causeway,
just his first that was his first win ever as
a solo owner, really, and he had come up, he
and his wife came up for this race, and uh,
and they're from Scottsdale and they plan on coming up
more during the season. They're really excited about it. And

(52:38):
he wanted, uh, he wanted a copy of uh of
the story I wrote, which included, you know, the recap
of Saturday's feature race. I was happy to do that
for him, and uh, but then he says, yeah, this
is my first solo owner. This is my first horse
I ever owned by myself, So uh, you know, things
like that that that makes it interesting to me and

(53:00):
fun had.

Speaker 5 (53:01):
Horse beat a good field. And Paul, you.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Are being real positive. Yes, it's been great to have
you on. And yeah, Emerald Down's up over ten percent
in attendance last year. How many racetracks can say that.
And Paul's attested toward our about our first two days
this year, which had really been a great atmosphere.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yeah, I think the race, the handle per race now
remember last year in the first two days or of
fifteen races, only fourteen races in the first two days
this year. But the handle per race is still up
something like seven eight percent over last year.

Speaker 5 (53:44):
That is great.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
And the difference And by the way, opening day last
year was the Kentucky Derby. This year it was race
number two. So the difference of Kentucky Derby handle days
it was up thirty five percent, is what I figured.

Speaker 6 (54:02):
Yeah, you know, I had family and friends out on
Kentucky Derby Day and they had an absolute blast walking
around and had getting dressed up and they just are
already talking about coming back the on track experience. Well,
you said it, Paul, that's the way you get people
into the While you advanced deposit wagering is great, but
to develop fans, you have to get them on.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Track right right exactly. And I'm telling you it's the
same exact thing that were the same message that I'm
sending out to folks that watch our product on high school.
I say, you still want to go. And when you
engage people that way, they get excited. They want to
go to the live events. People don't want to sit

(54:45):
at home and just watch the TV. As much as
that happens, they still want to go and experience these things.
And you know what I thought, I thought it was
it was absolutely perfect as far as the pay offs.
Lent on Saturday, you had three straight, four straight races
with pretty much, uh, the favorites coming in, a lot

(55:08):
of people cashing tickets. They're happy they're not winning much.
Then there was a Kentucky Derby. Then came the opportunity
for you to really make some money. So you had
you had people that cash tickets, you had probably some
that hit some some really good shots that they weren't
expecting to uh. And so it was a great cross section.
And Joe, I think that goes to what you're talking about.

(55:29):
Field size really helps initiate that. So I I, you know,
I'm really excited to take a look at even what
this weekend does. Yeah, uh, you know, and and how
that how that you know, impacts the payoffs that people
are so interested in.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
Some really top courses, top races this weekend at Emerald
Downs eight on Saturday ten on Sunday Mother's Day, Paul,
thanks so much for joining us. Great stuff and optimism.
You got us feeling good. So we'll see you at
the track. I think this weekend.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
Yeah, we'll get up there. I gotta do some soccer tomorrow,
but we'll get up there. And it might be a
little gloomy. It looks like we many have a little
rain on Sunday, But all right, ten races will make
a smile.

Speaker 5 (56:20):
You bet, Paul, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
All right, man, we'll see you guys.

Speaker 4 (56:24):
Paul Beatty joining us and adding a lot of optimism
to horse racing Northwest. Just outstanding coverage from him. One
other quick thing on how you can help Washington Racing
is if you're at the track, and let's face it,
a lot of dedicated horse fans listen to horse Racing Northwest,

(56:47):
don't bet through your phone. If you're at Emerald Downs,
bet at the windows, either the sand machine or a
live teller, because that is an Emerald Downs dollar that
goes right into revenue and purses and so forth. If
you use your phone and watch and bet on an
Emerald Downs race, the adw you're signed up with they

(57:08):
make more money off the wager than Emerald Downs does,
which isn't right, but that's the case. So use the
sam or the teller when you're here at the track.
All right, Well, we did say we had a very
significant passing in the thoroughbred industry. And Vince brun knew

(57:29):
this woman quite well as did I, and Vince covered
her both at in the Northwest and in southern cal Vince.

Speaker 6 (57:39):
Yeah, Kathy Walsh, Washington Hall of Fame trainer, passed away
at age eighty five in Chico, California. Kathy had had
I understand Alzheimer's disease here and yeah, quite a loss
and great story already posted on Racing Form if you

(58:01):
want to go on there talking to people like Gary Stevens,
just talking about what an absolute force of nature Kathy
Walsh was in the thoroughbred industry. She was one tough
woman and she came up at a time you know,
oh my god, we have so many great women trainers
and riders in Northwest history. But that was quite a

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novelty when her father Jim passed away, and he was
a leading trainer in sixty seven and sixty nine, and
that was a lot of pressure on Kathy to over
take over that barn with a lot of big horses,
and she produced four titles in seventy two, seventy three,
seventy six, seventy eight, and she went on to quite
a distinguished career in southern California. She had fifteen graded

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winners in her careers, a couple of Grade ones. Nanny
Sweep won the Santa Monica, who was a Georgia boy,
won the del Mar Futurity. She had Handhiman Highway finished
seventh in the nineteen ninety eight Kentucky Derby. She was
a trailblazer and she was always interesting too. She was

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she was nobody's pushover, that's for sure, and I mean
that in a very good way. She was a tremendously
talented horsewoman who brought in the career the right way,
built a foundation on how to train horses under her father,
and was extremely successful in it for many many years.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
OHI oh boy. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (59:26):
Winning a title at long Acre, you know, it's manned
a woman in as far as trainers, jockeys, grooms. You know,
it's way more slanted toward males. But back then in
seventy two when she won her first title, it was
really a man's world and she was no lily.

Speaker 6 (59:44):
As you mentioned, women weren't even allowed on the backstretch
after sundown. You know, back then the stuff we take
for granted now, you know, so you can imagine some
of the things Kathy had to withstand. And she looked
like a couple people. We'll say Kathy Walsh would have
been successful whatever endeavor she undertook in life. She was
just that kind of a person. But her family led

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her into training thoroughbreds. And Jim Walsh was a little
before my time, but I certainly know of my member
ed her brother who survives her, had some nice horses too,
But Kathy Walsh proved she could just as Gary Bays
proved and Gary Stevens proved they could ride, and Kathy
Walsh proved she could train anywhere and hold her own.

Speaker 4 (01:00:28):
Inducted into the Washington Thoroughbred Hall of Fame in two
thousand and nine, and it was great to see her
then and several times after for Wtboa horse sales. And yeah,
the Queen, as she went by to so many has
passed at the age of eighty five. We'll take a
time out and come back with our final segment here

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on horse racing Northwest.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
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Speaker 4 (01:01:21):
Mucosuon Course Racing Northwest. Our final segment here on the podcast,
and Thursday is going to be our usual day. Just
a couple of irregularities here and there, but we're coming
to you this week and we've got some sports shorts

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for you, selections and trivia sports short. How about this one, Vince.
We had our first Grandparents race in twenty twenty three.
It's pretty well documented. We've talked about it a lot
on this show. You know, Phil Ziggler, our president, just
kind of sprung it on us and okay, yeah, well
did it. We did it and it was pretty darn

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amusing and a nice experience. The first two leaders and
not a long race. They kind of stumbled in the
dirt and went down. You could see they didn't get hurt.
And Bill Downs called it and he added to it
by oh, the leader goes down. And then right after
the leader goes down, and Steve Butler of Everett won
it and he hadn't had a foot race since nineteen

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seventy three running wind sprints in football practice. So fifty
years later, Steve Butler wins our first Grandparents Race and
the video was real popular well. CBS Sports reposted on
their Facebook page CBS Sports, which is a huge conglomerate

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online and their Facebook page. They put it out on Saturday,
Kentucky Derby Day. It through Thursday. It had twenty three
point nine million hits. The grand Parents Race at Emerald
Downs twenty three point nine million hits. Forty thousand people

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shared it, and that's where all these hits grew. But
it's just it's fast, it's funny, it's a totally unique concept,
a Grandparent's race, and it just continues to live on.

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
Vince Yeah, and the Grandparents Race and then we got
the t Rexra, all these things, man, and to me,
it's just great exposure for the racetrack. They see Emerald Downs.
You know, any way you get it out there is great.
And I had one little factoid I just noticed, and
this might be a record for Emerald Downs. You know,

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we only have two maiden races this weekend out of
the eighteen races, which is really low it is again
that only bodes well because what are the first races
that usually get hung up. If you're struggling to fill
a race card, you put up a maiden race, and
those you got a lot of maidens back there, especially
in the claiming category. So to me, that's another great sign.

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And I love Betton maiden races, don't get me wrong,
but I think it's a little bit showing our quality
again this year. We only got two maiden races out
of eighteen races this weekend.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Oh, a lot of strong fields and that'll lead us
to some selections. We had some good selections from Anthony's
de Bill and John White last week and your horse
ran good, oh yeah, but didn't cash. I forget who
I gave out an mL downs last week. I had

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several horses fire. Actually the last race I was on
that Ruby Rendezvous ran a big second at seven to one.
Square Cat ran a big third at seven to one.
He's crossed the causeway one and guard your spot. I
went against ker Royal, she was nine to one and
she kind of fired ran forth.

Speaker 6 (01:04:58):
You know, I think you s You and Tom Harris
both picked Ruby Thomas first time starter that went off
at fourteen. It looked pretty live on paper to me,
did everything but win the race that was set the page,
dug in when it got challenged and just got out finished.
It was a great effort.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
Ruby and Ray, yeah get beat by the fan and.

Speaker 6 (01:05:16):
Of course out Ruby's deceased husband was Ray Thomas, so
obviously that's named after her. Ray was a top trainer
in California.

Speaker 4 (01:05:23):
Yeah, Ruby and Ray ran quite well and that was,
like you said, a first time starter. Okay, Well, this
week seventh race on Saturday is a five and a
half furlong sprint eleven Phillies and Mayors. I haven't seen
the morning line, but I'm sure I'm going to chalk
out On attracted because there's a lot of speed in there,

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and she's passed horses in all three races, and she
looks to be very high quality. So the fact that
she can stock and finish is going to really put
her in a good spot. Sylvia Amador for Blaine Wright
attracted his number four in that five and a half
for sprint.

Speaker 6 (01:06:02):
Five to two morning one favorite and then and that
was a tough race to do a line on. I
think Victoria's charge is second at four and then you
got who did run second to attracted right, and then
you know there's a miss Dynamics. Dynamic is six Kreama
you got her at six to one. Yes, and Cream
of a Month comes off a big effort in Phoenix
is five. Might have a little fitness.

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Edge on some of them and ran here last year.

Speaker 6 (01:06:25):
And then if you like, there's a bunch of good horses,
Candy Criderman's got a real live horse in Silvery Orb,
Silvery Orb Arlilah Grace. You know he's her hard knockers.

Speaker 5 (01:06:34):
So it's Grace rocketed day step.

Speaker 6 (01:06:36):
Rocket to Day's twenty to one on the morning line.
Now she tells you that's a tough race.

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
I might play Miss Dynamic at six to one. Boy,
she she's fired fresh a several different times, a few
different times. Okay, that's a really good feature on Saturday
Sunday at ten race card and the back end is
really strong as well. The ninth race is an older
horse sprint five and a half, and you got some

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newly turned four year olds in there, like tougher than
the rest, elder, tougher than the rest stakes winner Elder
mac Dynamic Secret won our Muckle Shoot Derby last year.
I knew four year old, I'm going to give him
the nod. I mean he sprinted. Look at his last
few sprints. He started at twenty five thousand claiming last
year in a big second, and then was unplaced behind

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Power Rise, but then had three super solid sprints and
then I went two turns for the first time and
won the Muckle Shoot Derby.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
Clearly he's a good horse. What do you got him at?

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
I think I got it as a show. It's a
six horse field. I think I got him favored at
five to two. You can make a case for all six.
You mentioned tougher than the rest. Elder mac Plaine right
with two in their Blaine Right has ten horses entered
on Sunday's card, which is yeah, for just a one
erase on a ten race card.

Speaker 5 (01:07:54):
He's got a big barn.

Speaker 4 (01:07:55):
Okay, there's some selections and Vince does the morning line.
Our last week's trivia question. We saw Paint You Later
win right before we did last week's podcast, Paint You Later.
Washington Bread won at Churchill Downs last Thursday and took
home a nice pot. She's now the leading Washington Bread

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money earner for twenty twenty five. Who before her? Who
was the most recent Washington Bread to win at Churchill Downs?

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Not easy.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
I got one guess of Bodenheimer, who did run a
big race there but didn't win in his career at
Churchill one at Keenland mistake. The answer is Huge Bigley,
who has been second in Washington Bread earnings in both
twenty twenty one and last year twenty twenty four. Huge
Bigley won there in twenty twenty one, so it's been

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four years since the Washington Bread won at Churchill Downs.
The answer was Huge big Lee, and he is already
a winner this year at Oaklahn. I think he's number
three in earnings among Washington Breads. Hasn't had a lot
of activity in a while. Okay, new question. You know

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we didn't talk much about sovereignty, maybe passing the Preakness.
I think you mentioned that. Looks like he's going to
do that. Well, you know, and they're talking a little
bit down the road about you know, even the I
heard some podcasts, Well they want to they might want
to win the Breeders' Cup Classic next year as a
four year old. Well, who's the last Kentucky Derby winner

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to win the Breeders' Cup Classic at age four or older,
the most recent Kentucky Derby winning horse to win the
Breeders' Cup Classic as a four.

Speaker 5 (01:09:48):
Year old or older.

Speaker 4 (01:09:50):
Give us your answers send to trivia at emeralddowns dot com.
And there's a couple of you that got some prizes coming.
I'm collecting those and we'll see at Emerald Sounds And Hey,
a great weekend of racing Saturday and Sunday, Vince.

Speaker 5 (01:10:06):
We're looking forward to.

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
It, I am.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
It should be.

Speaker 6 (01:10:09):
As we mentioned, things are really hitting full stride here
in early to mid May, which is bodes well for
our fifty one day meet.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
This week's Where Are They Now played before the first
race on both Saturday and Sunday. He's a witch doctor
who had a really good career owned by Tony lofton
the horse's entire career.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
Thanks for listening to horse Racing Northwest