BIG FACTS feat. BLOODY JAY

Bloody Jay joins "Big Facts" for an incredibly candid and powerful interview. He opens up about the profound struggles of incarceration and how those experiences have fueled his newly found positive energy. Hear him express deep gratitude for his freedom, discuss his journey of redemption, and share exciting details about his upcoming new music. This is a story of resilience, growth, and hope.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big Bank, DJ Scream.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
And BABYJ with the number one podcast industry, Big Big Facts.

Speaker 3 (00:07):
A live from Revolse Studios and the atl It's time
for Big Facts, Big Bank, What Up, Baby J?

Speaker 4 (00:12):
What Up?

Speaker 3 (00:12):
DJ Scream? I'm here today on Big Facts. We welcome
the one and only Bloody J. Bloody J is home.

Speaker 1 (00:18):
What's up? What's up?

Speaker 5 (00:21):
What's up?

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Bloody? What's man?

Speaker 5 (00:23):
Everything good? Les, let's less man.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
We appreciate you because because the word is that a
lot of people have been trying to get at you,
to get your conversation in your story.

Speaker 6 (00:31):
But house first understood, all right?

Speaker 5 (00:37):
How you feeling? First off?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Man?

Speaker 1 (00:39):
How you feel?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
You know what I'm saying, you out, You're free, we
feel the energy is the energy. You always had good energy,
but I'm saying it shifted. It seems like it shifted
even to a more positive space.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
How you feel just blessed, refreshed, you know what I'm saying.
Ready for the world. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Yeah, I'm just here to get mine, you know, for
everybody where they supposed to be.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
Man around me.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
What's the first thing you did when you touch them?

Speaker 1 (01:01):
First? I did?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I went, uh, you went Cuban.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
You know that was.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Did but uh now I got with my sons, man,
I went when it got my sons. I actually got
out the day before my son's birthday, so I didn't
tell them that day, so like I surprised them.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
My youngest son, he just broke down on his birthday,
on his birthdays, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
So that was that was the hardest thing ever. Tears
of joy.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
M hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
What's the what? What's what's what's the thing?

Speaker 3 (01:38):
I guess obviously family for sure, but outside of family,
what's the thing like when you was incarcerated, man, the
thing you was just looking for the most too, Like
I can't wait to I don't know, get back in
the studio, cruise to the city.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Okay, watching it first, I got the lit ill know,
got to salute y'all. You know, we real family right here.
You go back years. You know what I'm saying, And
I just I'm just big on saluting. You know what
I'm saying. Hat then side, you know that we canceled,
you know what I'm saying. So that I said, like

(02:14):
I just watch out every winds.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Let you know it real.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Everywhere I was on Hot met they had the TV
inside the cell. Okay, so you know what I'm saying,
I just have to sit in that moment. I'm like,
when are you watching a remote?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Got me through? He let me ask you something?

Speaker 6 (02:33):
Blood you know we supresy got it done before you
went in, right or from jail from jail?

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah no, now before I went in, i'my and from jail.
I think you were sly knowing because I think we did.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
We was gonna do yeah, yeah, yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (02:50):
Another cancer for sure, another cancer, my boy.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
And uh but aside from that, man, I just ready
to get back to the music. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know, I love creating the process music man. That's
that's that's what beside the kids. You know what I'm saying,
just knowing, like too hard to be here, Like come on,
like what I'm doing?

Speaker 5 (03:13):
What artists?

Speaker 6 (03:14):
What artists you've seen when yousing the you locked up
like damn he made it, you know what I'm saying
like that, No, not just like he finally made yeah,
uh no, we just gonna say he deserved to make it.
He finally getting do just say that.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
One one person off the top.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
I know it's more often I'm forgetting about one person
I've seen with my eyes, Rich the Kid.

Speaker 6 (03:41):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, you even know who was like who is this nigga?
Like Drive? He was always you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Like Rich Rich, so many people behind and I seen them,
uh kids of them.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
That was a moment. Yeah, exactly exact, you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (04:04):
Exactly like Nigga reached the key.

Speaker 4 (04:12):
In real life. Rich was the first real life human
bot he in the computer today, Yeah, type in all
that ship man like man deserves everything he's getting for real.
And then my question that I wanted to ask you
since we're talking like about the music shit or whatever,

(04:32):
is how do you feel when you hear people compare
or say that you were the original the Resid Shine
or you were the original Rod Waver. You know what
I'm saying, some ship like that, like the original music
pain rapper with soul like type.

Speaker 2 (04:53):
It's an honor because you know, you know and Rod,
theyre great artists, so for sure, so you know know
what I'm saying, Like you know that people listening to
my ship have felt my ship and know you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
It's always you know what I'm saying, we won't do
that enough.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, it's a little nigga Like I said, no nigga side,
so you feel me get my flower?

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah. So do you think you think that's your lab bit?
I know it is. Yeah, I know, I think I
know it is. Yeah, yeah, I know it is. That's
your number one obstacle. It's just go and sit down.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
Yeah, like that's my you know, like like now I'm
just so folking like you know what I'm saying, Like
we're just talking camera, like, nigga, I go sit down.
I learned that I gotta isolate myself better feel I
close my own door to crash from that, you feel,
I just isolate myself studio show.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
To the house, you know what I'm saying. Like, kids,
that's it.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Like, so let me ask you this. Do you feel
like every time that you've gotten out, the need to
keep it real and kind of slip back into your
old patterns and revisit your old surroundings have always been
your downfall?

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Yes and no, because I just believe that's just you know,
you know, we'll creature habit.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
And that's what I realized being locked up, like just breaking,
just just just breaking like you know what I'm saying,
like bad habits and implement new good habits.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You know what I'm saying. But you know, git real,
that's just who he is. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
So it ain't like but I try to control it now,
you know what I'm saying, like like controlling.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Thathing or limited Yeah yeah, yeah, like you know what
I'm saying, protecting my energy. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
I'm all around the people who who helped me do this.
You know what I like, you know, we salute you
know what I'm saying. How that niggas, you know what I'm saying,
what's up?

Speaker 1 (06:51):
What's up? I keep it moving.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
It ain't no really just like no hanging out like that,
no moment. That's why I think the niggas fuck up,
like go to hanging too much.

Speaker 4 (06:59):
That's my Grandma used to always saying. I say all
the time, Idle time is the devil's playground. When you're
not when you're not actively doing some ship with a
purpose and you're just sitting around kind of just doing anything,
that's when all the trouble comes to you.

Speaker 2 (07:11):
For real, Like then with nothing I realized, you know
you know you can sit around and ship.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Man, you know you're around the walls all day. You know,
some ship.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
That energy brogga respecting them. But some ship you can
make your mouth say anything. They ain't going for that.
What you're gonna do when what you're done done? What
you're finna do?

Speaker 1 (07:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah we heard, Yeah yeah don't.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, especially not these young niggas today. They don't give
about nothing.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
I wasn't living back then. Then it's ours. Yeah, we've
been around long enough to know. You know what I'm saying?
How big are y'all on?

Speaker 6 (07:49):
And then everybody else is like guilty by association? Like
I never thought that that was real coming up, Like
I us be looking like ship, I.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
Ain't ship, Yes you did, you're with them?

Speaker 1 (08:00):
That's ship the truth bro.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
So like you said, when you when you got because
we can't skate who he is and where we're from,
so we all know crumbles.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You get what I'm.

Speaker 6 (08:09):
Saying, Like every day they on your line, they where
you're gonna what they?

Speaker 1 (08:12):
You know them in your family, real blood. So I got.

Speaker 4 (08:20):
Niggas in my fan.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
So how do you how do you escape that?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Oh gosh, you gotta make a concerted effort and a
conscious decision to separate yourself to a certain extent and
not feel guilty about the elevation that's coming from that separation.

Speaker 1 (08:43):
For real, that is hard to do. But not being
a nig You're gonna be a fu nigga to somebody
regards know who you are.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
If you knew, let me ask y'all. If y'all knew,
y'all could be the biggest version of yourselves, wealth and everything,
just simply isolating yourself and leaving the people that gone.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
What do you mean?

Speaker 3 (09:04):
That's that's the crossroad we all go out. We all
go through that cross road. Though everybody been through it out.
It's a cross road, but you've probably been to that
crossroad and stay closer to their love because we love
like we say, we love our family outside.

Speaker 4 (09:19):
Yeah I'm outside, but I'm inside of myself.

Speaker 3 (09:32):
What I'm saying is, if you could be at that
point where you had to make cross road decisions. If
you you don't know, but if you had the feeling that, man,
if I leave right now, say fuck everybody and move.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
I'll be bigger than jay Z.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
If I knew that.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
If you if you knew it and what did you do?
There's two different questions.

Speaker 6 (09:49):
I mean I knew that, yeah, but that's that's the truth.
It ain't you just don't want to know it.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
You know it now, niggas know I am. You just
don't want to know it.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Because you feel like you can't see the future, they
say on the other side of goddamn uncomfortable, brother, it's comfortable.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
That's truth.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Like so soon as it whatever, brou I'm telling you
got to push yourself to do things that don't feel normal, bro,
not no, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Right, you gotta put yourself past your box.

Speaker 6 (10:22):
Yeah, like like like I always didn't want to know
how to swim.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Now I'm taking swimming less off to be a swimmer graduation.
What I'm saying I made an uncomfortable comfort.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Yeah, yes, to show yourself anything is possible.

Speaker 4 (10:36):
Right, exactly myself.

Speaker 6 (10:38):
But how many promises did you make the god sending
it on how man I made? How many of you
done broke so far since you been home?

Speaker 1 (10:47):
I broke a coup. I really been on my ship,
But I really been on my ship. I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
I ain't gonna lie, but you know, but you know
how that ship go Bronia.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
God ain't smoke. Okay, I don't know that's good. You
know it's good. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I ain't doing that violent you mean like I'm just
staying in my zone. Man. You know what I'm saying.
How many promises that you make the women that you
didn't keep. Now you're gonna get it.

Speaker 7 (11:21):
But now I thrill like, nigga, change this whole. Hold
hold that like, I ain't gonna lie like that.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
Nigga.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Promise to me, you keep up problem to me? What
you mean? Break it down? See? You know you making
my say anything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But
you got to be prepared for this. You have to right.
You have to be secure with who you are. You
have to be outside by inside yourself. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
Bars men saying it, you're like, you know, man, this
ship life be life.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
What they say might be life.

Speaker 4 (12:01):
But you didn't go in You didn't go in there
trying to be the pussy police.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Did you.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Hell no, we know what comes with Jim. You know
what cole Man, out of sight, out of mind?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
You feel me? She want to feel it?

Speaker 6 (12:20):
Days That cat is a scatt some ship. Let me
ask you something, what you have gave her more grace
in there than out here?

Speaker 1 (12:29):
You said she didn't stick to it. You know how
niggas give you grace to death.

Speaker 6 (12:33):
You know what I'm saying, nigga, get out, get outside
and come from inside itself.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
I feel like you know what I'm saying. Like I'm
the same nigga.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
Yeah, I just stand on rules and trump because first
of all, if you out there, you ain't mine anyway.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Facts.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Yeah, at the end of that, Yeah, that's the end
of that. I can get a bit, I can get
some pussy for I get mymselves on to eat.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, I ain't tripping or no no, no female then niggas, man.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
You know what I'm saying. So that ship really.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
But nah, for real though, man, I just feel like
me me pursuing what I'm pursuing and staying gold driven
and being focused. It's hard, you know what I'm saying,
because because first of all, I gotta get myself together.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know what came with?

Speaker 6 (13:21):
These women are long, so basically saying a distraction anyway, Yeah,
it is about this on the ground. It depends, It
depends on what woman you get. Typical woman is a distraction. Yeah,
I ain't gonna put all of them in the category.
Typical woman would be a distraction because you have to
take time to compromise with her feelings.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
Right right now, Yeah, right now, nigga ain't got time
for that.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
If you if you, if you uh chasing your purpose,
if you're purpose driven, you can't. I can't sit around
and talk about how you feel for an hour.

Speaker 1 (13:52):
When I'm missing my plate. Yeah. Plus plus I'm trying
to do something. You know what I'm saying. I'm in
the booth you text me when you come home. I
might be in making a.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
Drill or I'm now you you hear me with the
love it David, I'm like man with that, like I.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Gotta make a song about that I'm doing. I might
not be in at being at mold you feel me?

Speaker 4 (14:20):
You you weigh session?

Speaker 1 (14:23):
Where you at? When you are you in that with
them hole? You know what I'm saying. I know you.
You ain't ask your phone.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
You know I'm gonna tell y'all something, bro, were listening
this really ship.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
How you started your morning is how your day go y'all?

Speaker 6 (14:37):
Right, So if you got the motherfucker land next you
mad about ship yesterday, your whole day gonna be You
know what I'm saying, because you gallas like people be
thinking it's waking up is automatic. She ain't automatic, bro,
This she is a blessing every time you wake up.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
This is a blessing.

Speaker 6 (14:52):
You got your gratitude, be grateful, Thank you God, you
woke me up. This is another gift. Every day is
a gift, right every day, but you got this. Next
to you, they're mad because you went through your phone
while you sleep, but that day fucked up.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
That gift stole your gifts.

Speaker 5 (15:07):
You can to we could get We could be tripping sometime.
It could be us too.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
We ain't going through no phone.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
Not not that. I ain't saying that. I'm saying we
can wake up, and I'm guilty of being I.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Used to be, not me. Now I wake up. Guess
what all this forgiving?

Speaker 6 (15:23):
Once I went to sleep and woke up with this
new gift, all forgiven from yesterday.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
I love that. That's that's that comes with age of wills.
No black saying that wills.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Yeah, but but like that why like they say, when
you when you're in a relationship, you trying not to
go to sleep mad with your with your spot.

Speaker 1 (15:43):
You know what I'm saying. I'm big on that you
feel me.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
But like I said that, that's what I be meaning like,
we just don't have time for that right now. Trying
to get myself together, I ain't got I ain't got
time to explain that you know, female or no niggas
you feel because because that's what I'm bigg know. Like
I was just telling my pun that Liken, you quit
these females out. You gotta cut some of these niggas
off too.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
Man.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
What I'm saying, man, motherfuckers, just live with the colle jay.
I'm not even finished. Bro Okay, that was like somebody said,
it's on the JA that I said. Man, all right, man,
I'm not into explaining that I'm right or wrong. Think
what you wanna think, because you believe it. If you
believe it, I didn't even want to call you with
that ship broase.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Don't because it then do not laugh about it. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
All Right, You gotta understand, man, some people think I'm
gonna keep going at this. Some people thinking of you,
that you that they got in their mind not knowing
that people evolve every day. So the nigga that you
once knew me as or the nigga that you think
I am, ain't that nigga.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Bro, that's just in your mind. But guess what I ain't.
It ain't. It ain't up to me to try.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
To convince you, right, I just gotta push back from you.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Brother. You'll see I'm going through that now. Like you
know what I'm saying. People be thinking like here.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
My phoney, wait, what's up? Why are we popping out?
I ain't on that ho my little boy.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Permanently popped in.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Ye, like I'm in the studio. I'm in the studio,
like it ain't time for that.

Speaker 1 (17:13):
But you got to keep that energy. Want this ship
gone and go back up all the way? Yeah for
balance now, bro, Yeah, I been not in balanced and
that's what fucked me up. More sold than.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Niggas and gang banging or trapping, it was it was
me being that balanced.

Speaker 4 (17:29):
But you know what I've learned though, Like in real life,
you can't achieve true and real balance until you have
mastered the art of honesty.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
Facts.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Real ship ain't not balance though from your unbalanced Like
like my to day a week.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
This ain't even me. I don't they got a little
I got girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
I got five girlfriends, ten side joint, get high smoking
them back to running at this state. I mean this
show over here, packed up, this show. I ran through
this bank roll. When I got another one. I ain't
even went home yet. You feel me like it just
like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
I got close over here, clothes.

Speaker 6 (18:21):
Just do you think that time with the best thing
for you? A lot of people say that.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Of course, of course, you know what I'm saying, Like
you got I got time to myself.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
They had me in how Max, so I was twenty
three and one. You feel me like, you know, like
free my bro down there. You know what I'm saying,
Like freedom, free the chain game, free nigga. Yeah, man,
you know what I'm saying, straight up, fuck nigga died.
So but it's just like it's just like, bro, like
I got time to get closer to God, you know

(18:50):
what I'm saying. Like I'm not a religious person. I'm
a spiritual person for sure. So with that being said,
you know, I got to get myself together and just
like what real you know what I'm saying, but you
ain't gotta go to prison for that. What this taught
me like, you don't isolate yourself. That's what I was
on isolation. So it just opened my eye to that.
That's what I'm big on. That's all just like man,

(19:13):
I got you know what I'm saying, I got, I
got pulled back. It's just like in basketball, got the
full court press. You can't driven through the press. You
gotta step back the whole court, see the whole court. Yeah,
And like I said, when you're unbalanced, you ain't seeing that.
You you think I don't want the one that you
know living.

Speaker 4 (19:30):
When you're unbalanced, you put yourself in a situation to
where you're forced to have to make that decision and
not making it on your own.

Speaker 1 (19:39):
Like you said, making impulse, you're making a lot of impolt.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
Like you said, you driven ball, you gotta step back,
look at the court, then call the player. If you
get gone on down or ship. You finna do anything
in the score.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
You might, but sh it's gonna be tough respond and
not react said else that big fact.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
I think the first step of evolution is blaming yourself
for everything, no matter what it is.

Speaker 1 (20:10):
Like just anything, anything that you go through.

Speaker 6 (20:12):
If you argue with somebody, it's my fault because I
know you really to be around you, if you, if you,
if you.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
Get pulled over, get caught with a strap.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
Instead of saying, I, bruh, I shouldn't have been smoking,
or shouldn't even had the motherfucker I should have had
the head better, you gotta blame you the first. If
you always got somebody else to blame, you ain't gonna
never fault yourself. You ain't got no accountability, You ain't
gonna never change, You ain't gonna never get it right
because it's always somebody ell fault.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
But do you think that some of the time that
self blame and that tough accountability can put you into
a situation where you are what am I trying to
say to where you are depressed or something not depressed,
but you're forcing yourself to accept or take more ship

(21:04):
off of people than.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
You have to. Nah, hell nah, I ain't saying that.

Speaker 6 (21:07):
What I'm saying is, if you put yourself in a
state of everything is my fault, then they gonna make
you carefully step back, watch and call I mean, watch
the court and call the play you know what I'm saying,
because you ain't even you ain't gonna want to do that.
So if I'm blaming myself everything, that means I can't
put myself in those positions no more. You get what
I'm saying. If I know savings, I don't go to clubs,

(21:30):
and that's what nigga pay me. Damn who has the
happy birthday niggas? But I ain't coming. You see what
I'm saying. But if a nigga pay me, I'm pulling up.
But I know I'm pulling up. How I pull up?
You see what I'm saying. This is what the hell
I look like, spending money just to spend money that
don't make sense to me. It used to, but it
don't now. You know what I'm saying. I spend a
little money to go make some money.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's different. Every time we come out of the house.
It costs.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
Then it cost you to come a big fat sure
you say it cost you to come come to work.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
You know what I'm saying. So I just feel like
instead I just stand in Howard Ruler that shit don't cough.

Speaker 2 (22:09):
That's experience though it will then we gotta tell niggas
might it might click to somebody.

Speaker 3 (22:16):
But you have any of y'all have potentially done that.
In y'all twenties, you couldn't do it. You was itching
too bad to see what was outside and live life.

Speaker 6 (22:25):
I wish I had, you know, we wish possibly just mindset.

Speaker 4 (22:30):
One right, Yeah, But it's like for me, when I
was in my twenties, like I experienced some ship that
I was like, I was doing shit with people and
with things and places and ship like that that most
people like never would have experienced. So like me and
him were just talking about earlier, how like when you're

(22:51):
younger and you do everything while you're young, when you
get older, it's not nothing to do, and you be
bored as fuck. Like that's what I'm going through now
because it's like, bruh, I did everything when I was young,
everything that you could think of, like even fucking ship
that grown people dream about when I was young, and
now that I'm older, it's kind of like ship. I

(23:11):
go to the movies twice a week, and I like
going to restaurants and ship, but the other ship doesn't
excite me. Like I'm working and I'm getting paid, so
I have to be in those type of environments to
make my money and ship. But as far as oh
my god, like it's not there no more.

Speaker 6 (23:28):
Got to stop thinking border, stop thinking bored them, and
start thinking peace, because you could be bored, but you
could be at peace.

Speaker 4 (23:34):
I'm always at peace, That's what I'm saying. I'm alway
at peace.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Like you say that you don't get bored fat you
know what I'm saying, Man, I always say that. Man,
grown don't get bored, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
I feel that now.

Speaker 4 (23:55):
So speaking of like boredom and growing and learning and
all that type and stuff or whatever, since you like
actually had to go to prison and do time and
all of that. Before you went to prison, you were
like a staple in the city of Atlanta, and you
had the luxury of being able to collaborate with both

(24:17):
Thug and Lucie, you know, before you had to go
do your time and like do your bid and stuff.
So with you having that close relationship with both of them,
how did it feel to see them both fighting for
their life in real time?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Like on T break It's heartbreaking. You don't wear prison
on nobody, you know what I'm saying. And just to
know that we were young and black, and we took
over the town.

Speaker 1 (24:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:44):
Is that Adam loving the crew. It wasn't just it
wasn't just screaming. It just went Jad won blood. It
was the crew. They were loving big facts. You know
what I'm saying. Yeah, said, it's just like you know,
just to know that the power and being together is
powering numbers, you know what I'm saying. And and I
hate you know what I'm saying when when things get

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how they get.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
But you know, we gotta respect that. You know what
I'm saying, it's fucked up.

Speaker 2 (25:10):
We gotta respect the streets though, because this is where
we're coming from, you know what I'm saying, And it's
it's real life or deafenit and when it comes to streets,
you know what I'm saying. So but I hated it,
you know what I'm saying, Like it's heartbreaking, you know
what I'm saying. But like God is, God ain't gonna
put none of you can't handle. So they came through.

Speaker 4 (25:28):
It and and yeah, it's time to get back to
the money, right right.

Speaker 6 (25:33):
A lot of blessings came out of them, Like let
me ask you something like sitting there, like what was
the worst news that you got, you know, not on
no negative ship, just trying to bring a nigative conversations
like sending you know how because I was just talking
to find the other day and he was just.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Like, bro, I heard that ship my day. This is
just fun that day.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Trouble ship a lot. My older brother he died in PRIs.
He was in he was at another priz he died.
And just to know that, I mean pri and my
brother in another prison somewhere else. This is my big brother.
You know what I'm saying, right me, you feel but
he had he had lost his mind, you know what
I'm saying, long little rock, but uh you know he

(26:12):
but when I talked to my mom and the they
just like you know, he had a life sentence. So
he was just like shit, he's free now. So you
know what I'm saying, Like I said in the song,
like he free now. He ain't got a certain elbow,
you know what I'm saying that just like that that
you know what I'm saying, that's just one I know,
it's people I'm forgetting about, you know what I'm saying,

(26:34):
Like it'd be so many people like it just be
like you don't even want to call home.

Speaker 6 (26:37):
Sometimes how you pulled through that ship though, sitting there
in the boy yourself just god man like just just
being strong mind.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
You gotta be strong man anything you do because I'm
watching Nigga, who they mind? The more bo I'm watching
Nigga I hang with like that be straight like then
they lose their mind. You feel me like like uh
free that by hood Ri Pablo To. We was in
that together, were in the same part the whole time.
We went through jazzon together and everything like we kept

(27:05):
each other float like, man, you don't just like I
don't Nigga talking to the even weird bro he about
to come home on Yeah, he come home, but they
knew weird bro. They end up playing with ship, throwing
ship on each other. Like I'm like, hey, I heard that.

Speaker 5 (27:17):
Somebody amusing you.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Know that they kind of playing with the ship because
you got to put that ship or whatever they got to.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
Do with it. You know what I'm saying. When I
first seen that, I said, No, this a whole nother
ball game.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
What they do because you can't get each other, can't
nobody get each other. You locked down on the table.
You know what I'm saying, I had marks on my wrist,
on my on my ankles and shot. I still got
this ship.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
But like we come to the table, like when we
come out, everything segregated.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
You know what I'm saying. You might be everywhere I go.
I'm handcuffed to shaka to to police escort.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (27:51):
So a nigga might sneak ship pull it out of
you know what I'm saying, Like this ship discussed, you
feel me like this ship I just so I'm watching.

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Nigga losing their mind.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
It be a nigga talking on the door from twelve
o'clock in the in the eating at twelve o'clock, and
you feel me like he's God, damn.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Sir, just yelling what's all about it? Man? Shot lost
your man shouting? He'd be straight Like nah, I think
that's a coping mechanism, but he's really gone. He really gone.
Ain't coping, I guess feeling to him.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
You feel me crazy or though, you know what I'm saying,
Like mental health is real, bro, Like I realized that,
Like but I coked with just reading man, I read it.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
You know what I'm saying. I wrote, I wrote a lot.

Speaker 4 (28:43):
So let me, I want to ask you about the
mental health thing, right because I got a lot of
a lot a lot of people that are like currently
incarcerating and niggas that have been incarcerating and got out.
And one thing that like really kind of like disturbs
me is the whole solitary confinement. Yeah, because I got

(29:07):
I know people that have been in solitary confinement, and
like when they when they put you in solitary confinement,
they're technically not supposed to leave you in there that long.
But I know niggas that got put in solitary confinement
and we're in there for like two three.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
Years, Like how does that by myself?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
No saying thening.

Speaker 4 (29:29):
So like so for the people that are that are
like watching and looking at don't understand, explain or break
down Like what that does to your mental.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Man, it'll break you down if you ain't strong. You
gotta have faith. But see they would let me know
God real, yeah, like he ain't gonna put none of
you came home when I first got enough, like hen
it was a ton of other event. So when we
come out, but laughing, it ain't no coming out. I'm
coming out.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
You know what I'm saying, what you mean, but like
it ain't nothing to laughing about. It. I can laugh about enough,
you know what I'm saying. I'm just silling.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
We just how we got allowed to keep a crying right,
But you like, but it's that shit real man.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Like I said, I just like.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
My brother he was he was uh, he was actually
mental health and he was taking shots and everything, handout
shot and he was yeah, he said, fuck that shit
wasn't taking it no more. And somehow the nigga got
in there killed him. You know what I'm saying. He
still lost his life. So so I just feel like
we gotta people gotta do better. As you know, I

(30:35):
don't know who to like the legislation or whatever the
government far.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Like we got to investigate, Like that's what I want
to get into.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
Like these facilities and prison ain't for everybody people having
real mental health problems, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Or they're not doing nothing to help, no nigga just
throwing them in the cell.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Because everybody don't have a sound mind or or never,
don't have a structure, don't have nothing to come home to,
you don't have nothing to live for support no support
system all that matter, bro, So like, what the fuck
we're doing?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
It just make the nigga worse. So nigga can't get
no cell phone back though. Hell now I ain't have
no call.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
I had to work my way up to full phone
calls up system one call three months.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Well, I'm saying, what what what what like influence? Yeah,
too much influence. You know what I'm saying, threat to
the you know what I'm saying to the whole operation.

Speaker 4 (31:29):
And then another thing too, that like a lot of
people don't understand, is like it's a difference between like
a state and federally mandated prison and a private prison
because the state and federally mandated prisons are like they're
fucked up too, but at least they have some types
of like rules and regulations that they have to go by.

(31:50):
The private prisons get to do whatever the fuck they
want to do and there's no system of checks and
balances because they're not funded by the government. They're funded
by private investors and ships and that ship is like
that's another thing. That's like another discussion for another day,
But that sh it is just like so fucked up, Like.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
It's sad man like Like I said, I'm watching people
lose their mind, man, lose like nigga losing they mind.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
What happened to man this ship?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Man, I'm saying, I might trying to talk to your
nigga ship shout.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
Don't like that ship. I ain't never seen nothing like that.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
That should be that shit fuck you up like it
make you double down on yourself.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Man, I might just stay in the room. I ain't
even coming out tomorrow. I don't even want to.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Talk to these nigga music and shipy like like like
they just had to go to court like where I
was at.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
They just they just sued.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
Them like the uh the human right people, because she
ain't right. Nigga was dying in that more for us,
Like a nigga right across from me died and to say,
I don't nobody know what happened.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
He's just dead, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Like that was just crazy, Like it's that ship fucked up, bro,
like that Damn the George Department of Correction fucked up.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
Man.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
If you got people locked up man anywhere, though, check
on your people, man, check on your people, man, cud,
cause ship ain't right, man, ain't no officers. Ain't no officers,
you know what I'm saying. You know, even in regular perios,
ain't no auso. Niggas just backdun playing them knives and
niggaet killed bro like this ship see her like I

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just I.

Speaker 6 (33:25):
Just ain't nobody to come to say.

Speaker 4 (33:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Hell now, So all that tough talking and you telling,
and it ain't gonna catch up, you feel me?

Speaker 1 (33:36):
So so the niggas just gotta be mind.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
But thats why I was just so ready to get
to my kids, because I'm seeing what going on. Like, man, damn,
I gotta get out. I gotta tell these folks. You
know what I'm saying. I gotta ridly let the nigga know.
Like you know what I'm saying. I'm seeing the younger
generation come there with more time than me. You feel
me the folk first time, but everybody playing with five,
everybody playing you know what I'm saying. I want to

(33:58):
be steppers, I'm saying. And nigga and that motherfucker, now,
you got you got life, you got a forty, you
got a thirty. It's your fir bed. You know what
I'm saying. What the fuck can you tell me? What
the fuck did I tell him? Oh man, you feel
go home? No NIGGAA tell you man, you think? Man,
try this thinking? Let me get out here. Wait the

(34:22):
just respectfully expectfully. Ain't no sucking ship, but just respectfully.
You know what I'm saying, because you know and the
and they fucked up to it, so fun up. You
got niggas with shout time catching more time killing nigga
you had a long time.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
You know what I'm saying. I ain't worried about what
a nigga do to me. Don't wory about what I'm
gonna do to a nigga.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
You're ready to come home catching free workers.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Yeah, I met a nigga like that.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Sick man, I've seen look I seen it. I seen
the young dude. You know what I'm saying. He was
sick here, I've seen him. I like, go wrong, bro,
You're like I went home today, I.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
Got puta got out.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
How they called a fred body like where they had
me at that's where they send niggas who catch your
bodies on the compound or stapolic. You know what I'm saying.
A supposed to be the worst inmates in Georgia, Like
look it up. How man, it's on you. You know
what I'm saying. Like, that's what it is. You know
what I'm saying. So that shit be real, bro, Like
you know what I'm saying. Just check on your people, man,

(35:19):
you know what I'm saying, and lift them up like
this ship they needed, like even out here, man, even
out here, like like I hold myself accountable, you know
what I'm saying, like for like talking to the to
the youth, even something of the old niggas.

Speaker 1 (35:33):
You know what I'm saying. That nothing worse than the
old food ship. They damn stuck. They stuck you for
that and you still fuck up this you Yeah, they gone,
They're gone, so damn yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Man, Like, okay, so let's get into this because I
know you were kind of like slick a little bit
on your chef ship, you know a little bit like
you were when you told me that you could. I
don't know if you lied to me or not. You
really did. When you try to exchange the dinner when
he was cakes.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
What I was.

Speaker 5 (36:11):
Geeked up and the other things.

Speaker 1 (36:12):
I just balanced.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
Oh, he was all balanced. He's trying to finesse me
out the cupcakes.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 4 (36:20):
Yeah, you did, you said, I guess you maybe are
not anymore.

Speaker 1 (36:27):
I won't learn how to cook.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
Get out of YouTube, you too, University, give me just
a little bad and how to cook.

Speaker 1 (36:37):
Chefs, my bost chef. It come through for me.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
Feel, what's the biggest thing?

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Man?

Speaker 3 (36:44):
When you just just just the biggest change, you know,
going through your stints and coming back out to the world. Man, Like,
what's the biggest change you see? Namely right here in
the city of Atlanta, like ship? That just kind of
shock you, Like, Man, I can't believe that it came
to this musical in the scowl music and culture.

Speaker 8 (37:01):
The niggas snitching, nigga coming home, that niggas still sucking
with him m hm. The niggain holding niggas counting their
own crew. They still buddy buddy with them, your nigga
lord or whoever give them something?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
Did you see it coming though? Did you ever see
that coming? Was it inevitable?

Speaker 1 (37:19):
No? I don't even think like that. I followed the rule,
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Like long little Troup, he talking me somebout you said
a long time ago though, you know Trump, You know
I know.

Speaker 1 (37:30):
What I'm saying. The courtyard.

Speaker 2 (37:31):
Man, you know, vote in though, But I'm just you
know how I mean you you know what I'm saying,
But it was sometimes we're having a conversation, he said,
but you're getting the industry ship thinking in the street.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
You're gonna lose. Yep. So that always stuck with me.
But you know, just having the.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Rules and and and the prust and the values that
I have. You know what I'm saying, I don't. I
don't even that ship is like, uh, that ship is
not even legible for me, you know what I'm saying, Like,
I don't even know. I can't wrap my head around
That's what I'm saying. That's that's Them't be the niggas.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
It's so crazy, bro, this shit crazy and this ship
canna sound crazy, But them be the niggas that lose
because you trying to hold You're trying to be in
the world with mores that don't exist no more. The
same ship that you just said what I told school
like they used to be thinking because they know they
certified street niggas. I'm certified then wo I'm ready to
go out that ship. Don't mean nothing in this put

(38:30):
sass industry sho that don't mean nothing. Your codes don't
matter here in the industry of the street, that turn industry.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
You gotta think it's what streets is like that. No,
that ship everywhere?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (38:46):
What street?

Speaker 2 (38:47):
The whole energy different? I just seen that this ain't
even the black methan no more. We ain't even got.

Speaker 1 (38:53):
They gonna give that ship to Houston and Miami and that.
Y'all don't see that.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
People don't don't populate the shifting that fucked me up.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
We're still lick.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
Yeah, but it's question ship going on.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
It's everywhere. It's just the climbing of the world. I
feel like it. Don't be it, don't be too fine?
Are too fine?

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Nigga like responsibility always been kind of shaky in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah,
but now you've got everybody find everybody find.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
I just put my phone.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
Out making Wan the cry what he got a girlfriend
on Instagram? Instagram and bb fucked the world up, bro,
for sure. I agree Instagram Instagram Yeah, and Racks, Oh man,
fuck the world up.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
You right, It's just a cold world we're living there. Man.
I stopped trying. I used to be trying to got
damn dissect this ship and figured. But it's just like.

Speaker 6 (40:03):
Now I'm just trying to my mind go to go
to conspiracy theories now, like how did we get here?

Speaker 1 (40:08):
What are we the little thinking about now? Because you
can't figure out.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Niggas the system that they put in place, the white
people put in place a long time ago. It's starting
to it's really starting to see it, saying slavery to
to prison, taking out the black man at his house.
You know what I'm saying, taking OG's out the hood.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:30):
So now that young niggas look raising themselves, you see
in the fix of it. You're seeing the fix like
like like single parent household your young nigga too emotional?

Speaker 1 (40:40):
Feel me? I can I had to get on my son.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah wrong, you can't just explode like that, you feel me, Like,
you gotta be able to think.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Once you start thinking, you new so like emotional, but
like like you gotta be emotionally disipant.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
In fact, you know what I'm.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
Saying, it's nobody to teaching that women emotional. You know
what I'm saying. No, knock on the mama. You know
what I'm saying, because we support like you know what
I'm saying, like salut, because that's.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
A hard job to do.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Yeah, you feel me like like I'm I try to
do the most I can for my baby mama because
and I tell them about how much I appreciate them
and whatever I got, you got, you know what I'm saying,
to a limit now, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
But whatever and whenever them kids involved, but anything home
later on there, you know what I'm saying. Overly so,
but that's what I think going on, just the effects
of everything, you know what I'm saying. It's starting to
really show itself.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Yeah, I think we in the last day though, Like
this ship, can the reset start over?

Speaker 1 (41:44):
This ship burn up?

Speaker 5 (41:45):
Yeah, once the news start going, it's over. Anyway.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
Everybody got that baby or a lott.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Wake up your ship?

Speaker 6 (42:01):
Blood is here your back to.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
Get that to thanks the guy. There's a lot of George.
They got it. Yeah, I ain't that no freak out.
Ain't that no party. Know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (42:14):
They got in the city that was I don't know.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
I'm just saying, you know what I mean. I get.

Speaker 4 (42:28):
But I mean, okay, so since we're talking about that,
do you think that no, no, no, no, no, it's not
nothing crazy but nothing too crazy. But do you think
that there is an attack on extremely high powered black success?

Speaker 5 (42:46):
For sure?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
For sure, I feel like that even what we just
went through all ricall, I felt like because because the
young niggas, they catch a charge, they got lawyer. They
coming up out of that, they feel like. But the
other hand, you know, I told you got to blame

(43:09):
doing shit you ain't doing.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
Of course, of course, so it ain't can't be no
attacked on a nigga who ain't did no.

Speaker 2 (43:15):
No, no, that that ain't always true brow unless you
if you're affiliated, you did something.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
I'm just being real.

Speaker 6 (43:24):
But riding in the car with a nigga who I
know sal bricks, he got a hundred bricks in the car,
I'm can tell that nigga take me to crog.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
No, but listen, we get pulled over.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
We got breakes.

Speaker 4 (43:42):
But on the flip side of that, though, true enough,
you can't get caught, or it's a possibility that you
may not get caught if you haven't done anything. But
who hasn't done anything? Who are we to judge.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Okay, like bring it back to this. What she was
saying though about the high power people been doing that,
what they've been attacking to high power Shue p Knew,
Milcolm Matt.

Speaker 1 (44:06):
But them niggas shouldn't have been doing nothing saying squaky clean.
They can't.

Speaker 5 (44:12):
It's smoke, there's fire. So if you don't smell nobody
looking for.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Tell you, I'm gonna tell you the niggas.

Speaker 6 (44:20):
I'm gonna tell you the niggas who they fairy comb
but they ain't got him. All they doing and new
and him he ain't.

Speaker 1 (44:25):
Did now, I'm pretty sure they digging.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
If that nigga ever did anything, his ass will be grass.
I'm telling you, bro, Smoke, there's fire.

Speaker 5 (44:41):
Bro smoke, there's fire.

Speaker 4 (44:45):
Me that the Honorable Lewis Minister Phara Con is squeaky clean.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
He clean enough. He gotta right motherfucker around who ain't
saying what he ain't what he doing.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
That's the thing. He got enough, He got the right
motherfuckers around him.

Speaker 1 (44:57):
So that's clean. You ain't clean till you be out dirty.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
These niggas doing all this air ship get too flamboyant
and cock it. He didn't get too cocky like they
get a bottle out, they get that God complaint.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
On too big, You get that too big in your mind.
Thank them. Folks want smacking on your ad, they will
your point.

Speaker 4 (45:16):
But I feel like another thing too with that is
that they don't have a solid foundation.

Speaker 6 (45:22):
It don't matter something. You're gonna pick somebody off. You're
gonna pis somebody off anyway.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
But but if your foundation is solid, there's no point
of entry and there's no possibility of infiltration, as with
the fucking powerful lords Minister Lewis Fary Coyns.

Speaker 6 (45:38):
But what I'm saying is like Hugh and Autumn Folk,
them folk brought the dope to their congregation.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Them niggas start taking it.

Speaker 6 (45:46):
They start doing dope, okay.

Speaker 4 (45:52):
And that's what really brought them down. If y'all want
to get to the bottom of.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
This ship, that's what I'm saying, niggas exactly.

Speaker 2 (46:00):
In the in the play though, the people about that ship.
Nigga had to bring it in though. So it's always
your people.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
If we like bro, they know what we like. That
like liquor stores on everything, they know what we like. Yeah,
but we ain't like that at first befir we were this.
Some niggas start hitting that. No that ship that start
getting little leading to ship nigga niggas destruct themself, were

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self destruct.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
You gotta take that account, that account.

Speaker 4 (46:34):
Do the same ship, man. Look at a lot of
is on math. They all that kind of ship.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
They're like on.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
On boys and tongues boys.

Speaker 1 (46:43):
They were talking on the corner, remember furious styles talking.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
We ain't got no boats, we ain't got no plane
bringing the ship over here.

Speaker 1 (46:50):
Okay, mean you gotta do it.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
We don't have enough bro that just know what we like, bro.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
Time, hold on, hold on good No, don feel self
account band, bloody. They're just like now, God forbid.

Speaker 6 (47:08):
They send something in here that you know you're you're
man right, you're one hundred cent man.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Okay, no, okay.

Speaker 6 (47:14):
If they send they send a guy with a BBL
to your room, you're gonna beat that nigga.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
Put him out your room because you don't like that.
You fuck got my room. So how the hell I'm
gonna start liking dope.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
That's her choice.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Everything is a choice. Bro. If you never.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Tried dope before, how you know you like it? Cause
you see another nigga liking it.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
What he said, oh blood, is this certain stuff you
wouldn't try. It's god, I don't do that, but it's no.
It's certain ship that you would never.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
Try, no matter how many times, no matter if your
sale mat And you see that Nigga went to the
court got out for telling them. Nigga, you be like here,
it ain't doing.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
That for sure. So this nothing can influence you to
do something that you don't want to do and want.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
To mindset with everything up. That's what he said, because
you just said strong minded. You gotta be strong minded
to stay away for the people.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
That don't do it, you know what I'm saying, but
they do something else. Give us so many Okay, you
don't like, don't all right.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
We get life though, we're gonna get you whole. Everybody.

Speaker 7 (48:16):
We're gonna put advice.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Everybody has one, like I agree everybody.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
They do attack, They attacking, No, y'all, one hundred percent right.

Speaker 6 (48:25):
It's an attacked, but it's also a defense defensive mechanism
when you know they're attacking.

Speaker 1 (48:29):
Nigga, wasn't Niga defensive? Take take y'all.

Speaker 6 (48:36):
It's some niggas out there, like why Lebron why hold on,
why why Obama ain't got caught up in a scandal.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
You got a solid foundation, you need to bro, and
Lebron got Savannah.

Speaker 1 (48:48):
But he's ain't got caught up in no scandal. Bro,
he's got Savannah.

Speaker 6 (48:53):
Look, hold look how many Look how many people are
coming to him?

Speaker 1 (48:56):
Look at all those things that they're sending at us
that we be weak. For many it's time a billion
towards this nigga.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
Man, Savannah ain't going.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
And all that ship when white girl, God damn older
trying to suck. She not there.

Speaker 6 (49:10):
That's him saying, gone, this ain't gotten none to do it.
He can sneak and get it, dick suck if he
wanted to.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
He just ain't going, Savannah gonna sniff that ship out.
I don't give it.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
That's impossible. Some niggas just ain't going.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
Bro, what I what I take from there?

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Nobody else?

Speaker 3 (49:28):
It's still it's all on you, It's still on me,
It's still on us. You say solid foundation, when then
that's the first thing you need to do is be
building a solid foundation.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
That needs to be the priority. But but the niggas be.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Letting the foundation.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
Now what you mean you have a solid aird foundation
and do some bullship to put the cracks in it.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Damn how many time we seen that, like amn, o
g you did that.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Now the foundation be go to leaking out ship like
now nigga whole might we'll gonna tell the whole shit
he been doing.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
I guess my thing is everybody that's going through that,
and I do think there's an attech. But if I
start naming the names, everybody that's going through what they're
going through on that level did something.

Speaker 5 (50:17):
To put themself in this situation.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
If R Kelly didn't do this, then this, and then
go on and go on and go on, just keeping
it real.

Speaker 4 (50:24):
But my question to you is, as far as that's
concerned with R. Kelly and whoever else didn't do this
and they did that, the this and the that that
they did or didn't do, how is that any greater
or any less than the this n of that that
the next nigga did.

Speaker 5 (50:41):
Or that journey.

Speaker 6 (50:45):
It's one person what God gave one person, one brain
a piece. Yes, unless you tied to another motherfucker, Siamese,
you got your own finger point, got your own when
they take your teeth out of what they call it
your dealer record, you got your own bro so ja
Cuz their nigga can get away with some ship, like man,
the white white boy do it? Why I can't do it? No,
I'm not I can't do that.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
I'm not saying. I'm not saying as far as like
on an accountability level. I'm just saying, like on a
moral level, like that's the the mind boggling and ship
because it's like I don't know, I'm I can't get
too deep into what I'm trying to do because we
don't have enough time for me to be able to
explain what I'm trying to say. Okay, so okay, let's

(51:26):
get into it then. So my thing that I'm trying
to say is that, like I'm not saying that just
because this nigga got away with it, another nigga should
blame this nigga for getting away with it and say
I should got it, should have gotten away with it.
But it's just like at the end of the day,
it's like who are we? My thing that I just
keep going back to is like who are we to judge?
Because everybody got some ship going.

Speaker 6 (51:48):
On, yea do something criminal in them and legal that.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Is different.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
But it goes back to like who who created that?
Just like I always say, like who decided that cuss
was a word er? Who decided that the crackers were
the people that determined whether or not.

Speaker 6 (52:08):
They did When them folks over here were born there
and the folks came with them hot balls, it's a different.

Speaker 1 (52:16):
That we're gonna put.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Them hot balls. We created a lot, we put them.
We got some ship to make a loud sign on it.
That ship changed the world five five different bro them
folks start rewriting everything, But we ain't gonna change the
sitting right here with a bit fast, I'm just trying

(52:38):
to tell people right now and we can try to
smark the mind that may change it on the years. Now,
what I'm saying is right now as it sits. If
you're a nigga of caliber and you you you, you've
done things that elevated your life and your your family
life and your friend's life, don't risk it trying to

(53:01):
chase your vice for sure, because it's not gonna be
the same for you, is it gonna be for the
next name?

Speaker 4 (53:08):
But what do you think?

Speaker 1 (53:11):
No?

Speaker 4 (53:11):
But what do you okay? So what advice would you
give to a nigga that understands that now but has
some things in his past that were less than honorable.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
That ship don't go away. You are you'll that's gonna stick.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Nah, you never you did I'm talking about you know
what I'm talking about exactly that we're talking about. You
did them to now you can't come back.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
But IM just saying you being gay and being a rat.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Can't come back from that.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
You can't never come back from that.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
You not being gay because the rat.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Ship niggas, niggas, niggas are resurrecting from that ship nowadays.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
That's the problem.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
In today's day. These niggas are coming back bigger and
better than that ship.

Speaker 6 (53:59):
Is unbelieve, but it is what it is. But what
I'm saying is that was that's just that was the
cold like if you download or you because we ain't
got nothing against the community, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (54:14):
That's not wrong for them.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
But if you was a man posing as a man
and you're doing something and it's like, bro, come on, now,
that's a stately sin from where we're from, Like, because
if you're gonna be that, be that you just are
popularist like that. But don't be around here, goddamn smoking
passing blunt the niggas you.

Speaker 4 (54:30):
Know what, you had your lips on some pop balls, damn.

Speaker 6 (54:37):
But you get what I'm saying, Bro, what I'm saying,
I feel like I feel like you can, God damn
you can outrun your car.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
That I fun with that, okay, But let me ask
you that because I feel like I don't reset mind
if you If you if okay, and I'm with you
on that with the whole outrun your krming thing because
I've seen it with my own eyes right here. But
do you think out running it is gonna permanently prevent

(55:16):
it from catching up with you?

Speaker 6 (55:18):
I don't think you're gonna catch up with you if
you ain't living that energy. See if you if it's
it's what's in your heart. That's why I feel if
you you could tell God all day man, I ain't
doing that no more, I promise. And niggas done did
that and ben sinceil and win and did some ship
and that's when you get caught up. How many time nigga,
I've been in jail or being in any situation like, man, God,
you pulled me through that get pulled over? Man, you

(55:38):
don't let the nigga find it. It ain't no round no
scrap again. They round one next week. You know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
So you forgot your proud.

Speaker 6 (55:47):
So I ain't finna tell God God if they ain't
already got it, I ain't gonna get it to him
and then go get it to him and them folks
ain't already got what they gonna get to whatever with me,
I ain't finna do nothing else now, I'm gonna protect myself.

Speaker 1 (56:00):
I'm a man.

Speaker 6 (56:00):
Nigga play me, That's what it is. But I ain't
gonna overreact. I ain't going to take that talking little.
I ain't fine nothing. I'm just gonna I'm gonna live
how it's supposed to live, gud with gratitude and grace
and accountability and everything that makes me a special person.
And toil that day come if you put it in
front of me, that means.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
On your car business.

Speaker 5 (56:21):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
God, make you do something to me, to make me
do something to you.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
That means why you did something to God?

Speaker 5 (56:29):
Like that?

Speaker 6 (56:30):
Like that, like that, but some real ship though, I
feel like bro, what you is is what you bring.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (56:39):
Like you gotta think, bro, we used to walk.

Speaker 6 (56:41):
I used to be out there and getting on elevators
and ship when I stayed in different comings.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
I just get on elevator not speaking. I don't know
who means breaking my shit.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
Now when I get on elevator, don't give a how
you're doing, how you're doing regular, how you're doing, and
my day goes well, yeah, I don't even stop up
to ship no more. What telling you, bro, is what
you put out on the energy. Bro, y'all think I'm lying?

Speaker 1 (57:08):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
I don't, I don't I believe in it.

Speaker 3 (57:14):
What was What would y'all say to that brother man
that that might start to have some of them thoughts?
Like they think and clear and they want to get
away from the element, but they feel stuck. Do the
circumstances do the surroundings due to the people that surround them?
They're like, man, I really kind of want to make
a change, but I just feel stuck.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
I feel like if they want to make the change,
they got to make the effort to make the change.
If you want to make a change, you're going to
make the change.

Speaker 3 (57:43):
What if everything what if everything is attached to being
around those circumstances, the livelihood of your children, your livelihood,
your safety, everything.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
You just feel stuck. What do you do?

Speaker 4 (57:55):
You gotta it's always I feel like it's always a way,
Like if you really want to make that change, then
you're gonna fucking get your credit done and get a
loan and move your family out the way or fucking
so you don't have to be in the streets no more.
You're gonna figure something out or you're gonna scam, You're
gonna you know, you're gonna do something. That's just like
that's just like when you're in a relationship. I mean,

(58:19):
whatever you gotta do, like avenue to some ship that
you used to if you don't want to work a
job or whatever, you gotta do. But that's just like
if you're in a relationship or whatever, Like when niggas
are fed up and they don't want to be with
that bitch no more, or the bitch don't want to
be with the nigga no more, they're gonna go through
ship whatever whatever. But when you hit that point where
it's like, funck this ship, I'm done, niggas.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
Are out time to be I'm going back natural.

Speaker 4 (58:44):
Yeah, Like niggas like like like you're out, Like once
you hit that breaking point, then it's like okay, cool, like.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
And I'm going back to the natural.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
They can go back natural if you're in a relationship,
to say, some things can't be undone.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
What you think?

Speaker 6 (59:05):
What you think A dude can do that if he
felt stuck, blood ah, if you felt stuck and he
wanted to change, like, your will gotta be strong like
than anything.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
So if you what you want, you gotta do it.
There ain't nothing to it about to do it? Man,
you make him say anything?

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Man, what im.

Speaker 5 (59:26):
About to say?

Speaker 1 (59:26):
You got it? You got to be action. Man.

Speaker 6 (59:29):
You feel stuck to mean you don't want to do
it right at the bottom line, you know the thing
is stuck. You can you're stuck and you're sitting in
the twenty three and one.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeahs in that.

Speaker 6 (59:37):
Box message other than that stuck where you want to be.
You gotta make your mind up, bro, And it ain't
gonna feel the same. See niggas is Niggas is addicted
to the feeling the same, addicted to what he.

Speaker 4 (59:50):
Says, comfort familiarity.

Speaker 6 (59:52):
Yeah, so it's like ship, I know I'm gonna be
able to make five hundred dollars if I stay on
this little ship. But I ain't gonna take the risk
to go make five thousand because I might lose the
fire the five hundred I would have made.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
You know what I'm saying. So you're gonna be stuck.
That's stuck.

Speaker 5 (01:00:07):
That's real stuck.

Speaker 4 (01:00:08):
I feel like I feel like being stuck is basically
procrastinating because it's like, at the end of the day,
it's like you're you're you're like bullshitting away, like from
your dream. Because if you if you want to, if
you really want to, like I said, if you really
want to do some shit, you're gonna break up out

(01:00:29):
of that ship and you're gonna figure it out. Like
you're not gonna sit around and just keep muddling in
the same waters.

Speaker 6 (01:00:35):
You see what I'm saying, We keep niggas stuck is validation, Brom.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
They runing about what the next people are gonna think, Like, Bro,
I can't like I might see a young niggas say
you wanta rap rap niggas, I gotta wait till eye.
You gotta wait to you what I wanna start a podcast?
I gotta wait to eye, wait to what do it?
Do it in the moment what you're in right now.
If your hair napping nigga, turn it, come on to
with your hall nap. You're gonna get in nap ahead

(01:01:00):
niggas and they gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
Grow with you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
When your ship started to get get cleaner, they're gonna
clean us up. You're gonna create your following. You think
you gotta look like another nigga to excel, you don't
appeal to the napping head niggas, Maniga cut down when
you start.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
You gotta fucking anything, not real, anything you do, you
gotta fucking appeal to the people that can relate to you,
and they gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
That's how it started, my man, That's how I started
my career because you know, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
When I when I first came out, you know, it
was bloody. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
That's who I was before. You know what I'm saying.
But that was that's what That's what it was. That was,
that's what I had.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
If I had the mind before I had anything our blood.
So I said, let me let me you know what
I'm saying that nigga at twenty three and one too
that you know you were following you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
But yeah, yea, that what got me in the exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:02:03):
But see what I what I was getting that is,
you know people have a stip my like you make
blood music.

Speaker 1 (01:02:09):
Make blood music.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
No, that's what That's what I was appealing to at
the time, because that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
That's what people was.

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You know what I'm saying that who So with that
being said, I just grew from there, you know what
I'm saying. That's when the movie came the other stuff.
You know what I'm saying that first?

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Yeah, black lin A, like then what it is blood?

Speaker 6 (01:02:32):
I feel like young niggas just got it, even anybody
your nigga, old nigga woman, whatever, you just can't. I
can't wait, like, bro, I gotta wait to know you
don't well, you don't just do that ship now whatever
it is, do it right now.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
People is too afraid to get one like.

Speaker 6 (01:02:51):
Social Yeah, they're afraid to get like I ain't posting
on my page.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
I don't want to get two three lights.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Bro.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
If two three people like it, that means they gonna
tell somebody else make you make next time, you might get.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Six start start start. Your movement numbers is numbers. Use
Kendrick and Cole. That's why they're so big. They came
out in the middle of trap music being themselves, Kendrick
and Cold. That's why they became so big. And then
one light that day, one.

Speaker 6 (01:03:19):
Man, you being yourself. You ain't gonna never run out
of content. The niggas who the niggas who tried so
hard to do. Ship is because you're being somebody else.
This ship comes natural for you to go in, go
in the boot for rap that ship because you wrapping.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
You, it comes naturally.

Speaker 6 (01:03:32):
I ain't never had questions of none of this ship
because we just having a conversation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Why come to their motherfucker trying to be God damn.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
Barbara Walters, Well whoever.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
That ain't huh?

Speaker 6 (01:03:48):
Like, come on, Bank, that ain't even me. So you
just gotta be the best you possible bro other than that,
and then people don't. That's drawing the line.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
That's drawing the line on.

Speaker 6 (01:03:56):
Who gonna fuck with me and who ain't because you're
gonna run out of being somebody.

Speaker 4 (01:04:00):
Else and you're always gonna be a step behind.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Gonna run out like they be saying, like, Bro, they
nigga be stilling your ship.

Speaker 6 (01:04:08):
He's gonna run out of it. Bro, I'm gonna keep
having me. I can't run out of being me. He's
gonna run out of being me.

Speaker 3 (01:04:13):
All right, Yeah, what's the biggest thing, bloody you want
to say to the people, like man, like just just
this journey?

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Man, you got such a you said you've been writing,
so you're working.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Like I, uh, you know when I was in the
I was just writing, like journaling, you know, come.

Speaker 5 (01:04:29):
Out, you wrote it. That's what I'm saying. The book coming.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Need that book, it's coming.

Speaker 5 (01:04:34):
That's a hell of a movie too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
What about just about my life and just like lessons
I wrote it in the in the aspect of like
I was thinking, like God forbid, something happened to me.
I can get it, Get a game to my kids,
get the rules to him, Like it's just you know
what I'm saying, it's the rules like my life and
just showing how I applied the rules to my life.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
And this is what it became.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
If you was giving know like a big like let's say, lecture,
what's what's three things that you learn along this way
that you like that you wanted the people to receive
and give them like man one, two and three these
three biggest things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
One put God first, for sure, that's first. That's what
we need. You know what I'm saying. You ain't now
without God. Two it's be yourself like like you're just said,
be yourself. And three know who you is and this ship.
You gotta know yourself to be yourself. So maybe maybe

(01:05:34):
maybe let's swap out too. And three because you gotta
know yourself to be fact.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So four is never
on your friends, that's number one.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Yeah, but I would have put it before God. You
don't get a big guy credit. These niggas are congregating
in choirs on niggas.

Speaker 6 (01:05:59):
But you know what though, I stopped trying to be
like who's telling it, because it only makes you be
a hater.

Speaker 1 (01:06:06):
And this day and time, if you be like if
we said how we really.

Speaker 6 (01:06:09):
Felt about like Mania, telling her the nigga, tell him,
you become the hater.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
If a nigga untold already you don't know he told
he hates you too.

Speaker 6 (01:06:19):
I'm because because if a nigga know that you hate,
tell her tales like let me say this, I'm a funck.
That just anything we say on these podcasts, Like I
could say I don't like niggas who cheat on their
cheat on their girl or whatever, which I never said that,
but I'm just saying I could say something like that,

(01:06:40):
and a nigga cheat on this girl could take that personal,
even though I ain't said I don't like Jade because
she cheat on her dude or whatever, not to say
she did. But if I say that, another female take
that person like I was talking to her like directly, right,
So you can't talk in general, Susie is aflusy if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:03):
You don't like the fact that's all about raps up here.

Speaker 1 (01:07:08):
I feel like that. But what I'm saying I moved
away from it, like.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
What show for sure they got that come and put
it on you for working though Yeah you knew music
on the way to man Yes soon man real soon
probably like I ain't gonna put no date on I
see you've been working some videos and ship yelp me
and Wheeler Fool shout did the whole album called art

(01:07:35):
Man Real Testimony shout.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Out my dog Joe Green. I get Joe Green on
the count I said you did something, Joe, Yeah, get Joe? Yeah, Joe.
So what we did that? Joe remember that? Yeah? Yeah
that we shout the video on there? Yeah? Well what's
next outside of the music? Man? I want to do

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a movie, say that you should be in the actor.
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You know movies book.

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God got for me.

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So I'm here to get it here.

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Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
Red carpet has always rolled out for I appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:34):
Welcome home man, and we know you're gonna be home.
You know what I'm saying. You're gonna be home and
you got our support whatever you need.

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But you appreciate, you appreciate Chill Love stream doing me
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Speaker 5 (01:08:44):
So we talked about it.

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You know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:52):
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to hang with Jay volume want that's on the way
for sure.

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